That was hilarious. The front should settle out some more with the cut factory spring. I'm not a huge fan of the CC501s in the rear. They are about a half inch too much IMO. I think we are going to try the UPR weld on adjusters with a 10" coil next. Keep up the bad ass project!
I got the adjustable ride techs with 650lb front coils. Expensive but it will be easy to fine tune ride height at any time. RideTechs are super light compared to factory coil over which reduces unsprung weight. I’m a ticketed retired mechanic and I wish I lived closer. I could SAFELY and properly do this job for you and you could show me how to work a laptop computer. Cheers boys and stay safe.
So I did .... 07 gt500 rear springs ...35.00 eBay Cut 1.5 coils from the front springs Mathed the spring rates out , they are perfect. Lowered my Vic 2 inches and improved the ride. Total spent ...40.00 dollars. Another way to go and when I redo my suspension, make drop brackets that weld to the lower control arms. It will also improve the upper a arms camber angle during turns.
Dont see how lowering the strut pivot will change the (improve) upper A arm geometry and camber angle as opposed to cutting the spring , your statement there makes no sense whatsoever ????
@@SnakePliscan cutting the spring will help more because it raises the spring rate as well as lower the center of gravity. When you lower ride hight in the front or any SLA ( short over long arm ) suspension you will change the angle of the upper arm. At stock ride hight the arm sits at a downward angle and only comes into a perpendicular state under hard cornering and nose dive braking situations. By lowering the front you now bring the arm closer to making a 90° angle with the knuckle at the ball joint. This keeps the knuckle from cambering in TOO FAR . Negative camber is good for handling but when it goes too negative you will loose contact patch. Raising the spring rate also helps fight off deflection . The sway bars can be tuned as well. What I did was use threaded rod, a 3 inch turn buckle and jam nuts and heim ends to make sway links. You can also drop ride hight with custom tabs that weld into the lower arms making the strut mount lower, think drop knuckle. Being that I swapped rear springs to a higher rate I wanted to balance the handling so I cut 1.5-1.7 coils from the front with a cutoff wheel. Honestly with the p71 struts and shocks the chassis was almost telepathic. I knew exactly when the rear would step out, I removed most of the understeer and the turn in was crisp. Gone was the " float " over 125 mph and the car was rock solid in corners and I could command the rear to slide simply with a touch of brake input or throttle. I have yet to get my charger pursuit to handle as well. The Vic got stolen two years ago late Sept ..shortly after this post.
@@robsorgdrager8477 Im thinking you must hav had a older Vic cause mine (06) has aluminum lowers (no welding happenin there) and my uppers sit near level at stock ride height , also sway bar links are 1/2 integrated into the knuckle . Soooo any lowering near immediately cranks in negative camber and requires pulling in the lowers to compensate. Yeah i would agree rear spring rate needs to be way higher (or big fat sway bar) to relieve the Vic's nasty push. The aftermarket camber bolts and frame slotting people are doing is for when people do extreme drops (3+ inchs) i guess.
If you loosen up the nuts on all of your front bushings and then tighten them with the weight of the car on them, you might get another half inch to maybe a full inch lower just because you’re relieving the torsion of those bushings.
So I've done this with my crown vic, if you need a safer way to do this.... zip ties are the way to go! They will hold the spring where it's at. But I also bought a pair of spring compressors for $20 for future stuff.
Thanks for this idea, got the MOOGS I'm my cart, and I'm doin it. Any rubbing with stock wheels? I'm planning on 1.5" spacers, but might have to run stock for a week or so
You fellers have a tik tok account? If so I'd love to follow y'all 🙌🤘😎🤘❤️ love the car I own a 97 marquis I can't wait till I'm done with her she's a beautiful car but I want to put some coilovers on it n new rims n tires 🤘😎🤘❤️
I actually just bought some gt500 rims for my vic, I was looking at getting these. If you end up giving them away shoot me a message Id be down to pay for shipping. But the vic is looking good, did you prefer the supercharger or the turbo so far?
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The dude you can weld had me rolling 😭😭😭
You guys are one of the channels that I'll stop whatever I'm doing to watch
Really means alot! Thanks.
That first front spring was some best TH-cam I’ve seen all year
I’ve been waiting for this finally!!!!!
Saw this thing in the wild the other day when I was pulling in the trailer park. Damn near made me cream my drawers lmao.
there must never be a boring day with yall around
My friend bought the same front springs , I elected to cut my factory ones and buy cc501's for the rear. Great video guys you all are awesome!
Thanks! Really appreciate it.
Did the same thing worked great, how many coils did you cut?
@@fireszn6123 just one up front
@@unorthodoxridez sick
What about using the outcast autoworks 1.5 inch drop brackets for the front struts somebody gave me a pair of those they're only 30 bucks ?
Do you have a part number for those springs. I cant find anything for the vic. I got an 09 tho
Moog #CC501
@@TaylorMadejdm1975 what about the fronts?
@@Butchcub75 out cast auto works sells a lowering kit for $38
@@Butchcub75 in the video
That was hilarious. The front should settle out some more with the cut factory spring. I'm not a huge fan of the CC501s in the rear. They are about a half inch too much IMO. I think we are going to try the UPR weld on adjusters with a 10" coil next. Keep up the bad ass project!
We appreciate it! Thanks
Looking for a set up grand marquis
If uer gonna go ta that trouble ya may as well put in jacking bolts !
@@SnakePliscan This ain't nascar lol.
This is where is Spring compressors coming to play. I wish I had them with me and my Mustang Club did my front Springs on my 2012 GT
I got the adjustable ride techs with 650lb front coils. Expensive but it will be easy to fine tune ride height at any time. RideTechs are super light compared to factory coil over which reduces unsprung weight. I’m a ticketed retired mechanic and I wish I lived closer. I could SAFELY and properly do this job for you and you could show me how to work a laptop computer. Cheers boys and stay safe.
They will reduce weight but its not like u say unsprung ?
Did you buy the coils meant for F100 pickup trucks?? Did they not rub on the sway bar?? i have the bigger bars on my P71..
So I did ....
07 gt500 rear springs ...35.00 eBay
Cut 1.5 coils from the front springs
Mathed the spring rates out , they are perfect.
Lowered my Vic 2 inches and improved the ride.
Total spent ...40.00 dollars.
Another way to go and when I redo my suspension, make drop brackets that weld to the lower control arms. It will also improve the upper a arms camber angle during turns.
Outcast autoworks already makes drop brackets for the front control arms for the struts for thirty bucks
Dont see how lowering the strut pivot will change the (improve) upper A arm geometry and camber angle as opposed to cutting the spring , your statement there makes no sense whatsoever ????
@@SnakePliscan cutting the spring will help more because it raises the spring rate as well as lower the center of gravity. When you lower ride hight in the front or any SLA ( short over long arm ) suspension you will change the angle of the upper arm. At stock ride hight the arm sits at a downward angle and only comes into a perpendicular state under hard cornering and nose dive braking situations. By lowering the front you now bring the arm closer to making a 90° angle with the knuckle at the ball joint. This keeps the knuckle from cambering in TOO FAR . Negative camber is good for handling but when it goes too negative you will loose contact patch. Raising the spring rate also helps fight off deflection . The sway bars can be tuned as well. What I did was use threaded rod, a 3 inch turn buckle and jam nuts and heim ends to make sway links. You can also drop ride hight with custom tabs that weld into the lower arms making the strut mount lower, think drop knuckle. Being that I swapped rear springs to a higher rate I wanted to balance the handling so I cut 1.5-1.7 coils from the front with a cutoff wheel. Honestly with the p71 struts and shocks the chassis was almost telepathic. I knew exactly when the rear would step out, I removed most of the understeer and the turn in was crisp. Gone was the " float " over 125 mph and the car was rock solid in corners and I could command the rear to slide simply with a touch of brake input or throttle. I have yet to get my charger pursuit to handle as well. The Vic got stolen two years ago late Sept ..shortly after this post.
@@robsorgdrager8477 Im thinking you must hav had a older Vic cause mine (06) has aluminum lowers (no welding happenin there) and my uppers sit near level at stock ride height , also sway bar links are 1/2 integrated into the knuckle . Soooo any lowering near immediately cranks in negative camber and requires pulling in the lowers to compensate.
Yeah i would agree rear spring rate needs to be way higher (or big fat sway bar) to relieve the Vic's nasty push.
The aftermarket camber bolts and frame slotting people are doing is for when people do extreme drops (3+ inchs) i guess.
@@SnakePliscan p71. Mine was a 09 . The cop cars came with beefy steel arms.
This video is a good example of why not to buy the Moog springs. Thanks Guys.
We literally just did this to our Vic today like 3 hrs ago!
I realize you guys did some video editing but my question is did you have to undo the sway bar before lowering the rear end down on the jack..?
If you loosen up the nuts on all of your front bushings and then tighten them with the weight of the car on them, you might get another half inch to maybe a full inch lower just because you’re relieving the torsion of those bushings.
That sounds like readjusting slope and compliance , if your getting an inch of drop that way it suspension rebuild time !
So I've done this with my crown vic, if you need a safer way to do this.... zip ties are the way to go! They will hold the spring where it's at. But I also bought a pair of spring compressors for $20 for future stuff.
Thanks for this idea, got the MOOGS I'm my cart, and I'm doin it. Any rubbing with stock wheels? I'm planning on 1.5" spacers, but might have to run stock for a week or so
You need a hyd press for that and a strapping tool, who has that on hand other than a spring shop ?
The southern accent let’s me know I can trust this guy 💪🏾
13:40 "He was a good boy"
lololololololololololol
Can't wait to start on mine
Video funny asf🔥🔥
Do you have a link for the fender flares?
Hey do you have the part numbers for the moog front spring please?
go to 18:50
He can weld
Are you thinking about doing a rear drift bash bar?
Yeah we've tossed the idea around. We probably have enough material laying around to do it. Just gotta borrow the pipe bender again.
Nice bumper
What deep dish wheels are on the Vic?
Boss 338 18x9.5 +6
Are those fender flares actually for the car or did y'all fabricate them to fit?
Just some cheap universal flares off amazon. But they fit decently well.
@@BoostandBadHabits I'll def have to look into that I like how it makes the car look beefy 🤘😎❤️
What size rear drag wheel are yall running??
15x10 6.5 bs
What car were these supposed to go on? I just bought a 05 this exact color lol
They are all the same from 04 on
How’s it ride with the cut springs in front?
No noticeable difference honestly
I need the front springs lowering 😭
No problem man. Just dm @Tricities_Racing or @redfire_will on Instagram and we'll iron out the shipping details.
Where did you find those fender flares
Universal flares off amazon lol.
Would these springs work on a 2010 town car sig limited??
Yes.. imo..lol
23:44 @ REDFIRE WILL
9:33 😂😂😂
You fellers have a tik tok account? If so I'd love to follow y'all 🙌🤘😎🤘❤️ love the car I own a 97 marquis I can't wait till I'm done with her she's a beautiful car but I want to put some coilovers on it n new rims n tires 🤘😎🤘❤️
How u fit 18in on her? Wheel specs?
same as 17's sept u add +offset if the 18's are wider.
So yours is the same color as mine, and has a bunch of mods I want to do. Mine is a normie tho, air in the back...ugh
I actually just bought some gt500 rims for my vic, I was looking at getting these. If you end up giving them away shoot me a message Id be down to pay for shipping. But the vic is looking good, did you prefer the supercharger or the turbo so far?
Turbo for sure! I think Will has already shipped the springs off to another subscriber already though, sorry...
@@BoostandBadHabits No problem im enjoying the build keep up the good work
How much for shipping? I’ll take them gladly
Link on springs
Yeeet
You mind giving me the front springs ? I will pay shipping , just starting my build actually
Never buy car parts from amazon. I recently cancelled my account because of all their bullshit.
omg
I'll pay
Shipping
Lol