Oh my God I can’t believe this. This was exactly what I needed to hear the exact information I needed before buying a motor. Nobody else has done this video. This was beauty man legendary. This Chanel just got top 3 status
Gotta give my fav to the 1100kv hobbywing. Gave a 3800kv castle motor a go in an arrma (yes, i set it up properly) and it burnt out on a 16 tooth pinion and a 50-ish spur within a month of ownership. Tried an 1100kv hobbywing axe motor and it’s worked with no issues for 2 and a half years now. Castle is more for performance, it takes skill to work them properly. Meanwhile hobbywing is mainly reliability, but in my opinion, their motors are just plain better.
what arrma did you install the 3800kv motor in? if it was on a 3s you would have a 50 or a 57 spur, i have a 3800kv motor on a typhon and has worked great with 15/57 gearing
This video made my Kraton 8S EXB motor decision easy. Going with the Castle 1100kv. I'm considering a 34/47 gear ratio. What ratio would you recommended for bashing?
I went with the hobbywing max5 with the spektrum 1250kv did have a 25/47 was to tall motor was getting way to hot went down to 20/47 still getting hot so went down again to 17/47 seems to be good there but still gets hot after 10-15 minutes of run time ive got no fans for the motor tho and the pinion came loose today so not sure if that was causing it to be hot didn’t notice till I got home and went over it tho
I know this is an old Video, but I like to use Tekin Motors on my cars, I have never used castle, hobbywing, or spektrum. thank you for making this video
Very cool info video exactly what I was wondering, planning to get kraton exb 1/5 scale and was looking at Max5 800kv or 1100kv combo , so looks like I want the max5 1100kv for the 1/5 scale exb with 22pinion 39spur. Mainly for bashing
Very informative. I like the video, it gave me all kinds of good info. I'm going to stick the 1650KV motor in my big rock6s. Gymkhana style and burning rubber sideways. That's how I drive all the damn time.
wow! your presentation is amazing really makes sense. i have a 8s kraton and was thinking about getting a big 800kv castle system for it. but now i’m thinking a 1100kv with proper gearing will be more then enough. new sub here🤟🤟🤟 big thx for the awesome video🔥🔥🔥
I have a Losi DBXLe 2.0 with BRP 7" wheels. I want to get the best long-term ESC and motor. Should I go with a Castle XLX2 + 800KV or 1100KV? Should I run a Max5 + other motor combo instead? FYI... I have the stock 13T gear but also have a 17T and an 18T gear waiting. Thanx!
What would you suggest for my DBXLE2.0? XLX2 ESC + latest firmware 2021 (I think I want to stick with Castle) Castle 1100KV Castle 800KV TP Power TP5870 1100KV TP Power TP5870 990KV TP Power TP5870 900KV I've got 16T, 17T and 18T pinions and will keep the stock 50T spur (I don't want to change the spur). I want much greater than stock speeds on dirt (never street) and greater torque to give me wheelie power. My current batteries are 6500mah 100C (4s x 2 = 8s). I want to stick to an 8s system and I'll be getting cooling fans for the motor. Thanx!
Cool review of big RC motors, I'm considering running the Castle MMX 8s with 1717 1,650KV Motor in my XO-1 roller project and my future Infraction as well as maybe a Sledge and i might get 1,260KV for an X-Maxx someday.
Im fine with my 4x4 Stampede with a 2650kv motor and 11tooth pinion. Its around 35mph, I was hitting close to 60mph with the stock VXL system, but that thing ran hott! Even with a 9tooth pinion it was some where around 45mph and got toasty by the end of the pack. Good for 2s I guess, but I got so many 3s packs. With the 2650kv 3670 motor, it runs quite cool, and the wheelies thing does now is effortlessly, and temps are way better.
Sounds like a good setup to kill some time.. It’ll never give the full on rush that a 1:5 or even a 1:8 scale overpowered RC can do though. Being “fine” with a Traxxas 2S-3S RTR basically means you started out at the bottom of the barrel (same place I did, Traxxas marketing is fantastic and reels in the beginners) and you are sticking to the starter truck lineup and never venturing out. I’m currently going down my list of 12 RCs (just got into the hobby in June of this year so I’m still building up the fleet) and removing the installed ESC, motor, and pinion/spur gears, whether they are RTR or installed onto roller, then stepping up the voltage to the next level. So my 3S rig will run 4S, 6S rigs will run 8S, 8S rigs will be upgraded to a Castle MMX8S or XLX2, 2S brushed get 3S brushless. Then all of them are getting a heat sink for the specific vehicle along with a motor fan and a Spektrum receiver (SR6100AT, SR6110AT, SR6200A, SR315, SR215) to link to my Spektrum DX5C transmitter, I’m never “fine” unless it’s fast enough to wreak havoc on my nerves.
Will VERY likely go with a Castle 2028 1100kv when I buy an Outcast or Kraton 8S EXB; a friend is running an RTR Outcast 8s with a 800kv 2028 and 39/39 gearing; thing gets barely warm. One thing about the Spektrum stuff: most people dont know, but the motors and ESCs is just relabeled Hobbywing stuff. So no reason to pay extra, when you can get the same thing for far less.
I have the traxxas 6s vxl system in my rustler 4x4 with the stock 3s motor.I run it in 3s for normal bashing but when I’m doing speed runs it works perfectly fine you just gotta make sure it doesn’t get to hit so I put dual fans on it that really keep the temp down
Thanx for a decision making video. I wanna upgrade my X-MAXX 8s for speed runs and it looks like you'v helped me out with a few things. I'm going to try the 1100kv with the XLX2 ESC, then experiment on gearing. THANXSOMUCH, and KEEP ON BASHING 🇨🇦
Since I couldn't find the 1100kv and XLX2 combo for my Outcast 8s, I went with the 800kv motor. I'm running 39/39 gearing and I'll see how it goes. Thanks for the info. On my xmaxx trucks I'm running the max 5 and 1100kv 5687 motor with 25/35 gearing. Those are ballistic. 56mph on grass and probably way more on concrete. 👍
@@InnovationRC after testing the 800kv motor it puffed my batteries! I'll go with 35/39 gearing. I'm not impressed honestly so far with the 39/39 gearing. My xmaxx running the 5687SL 1100kv with 25/35 gearing get up to speed MUCH faster. I might try the 5687SL with 24/34 gearing on my Outcast 8s. The 1100kv motor from Castle is on backorder.
@@monroethegreat7539 The Castle one? Or the hobbywing one? The hobbywing 1100kv works great for the lighter Xmaxx. I've heard that it works great for the heavier Outcast and Kraton 8s.
I have an Arrma Fireteam which I plan on keeping stock for some time but what would you recommend as a good esc/motor combo for that vehicle? I do more off road speed running and small jumps than big jump bashing or on road speed runs. I would also prefer to keep it as a 6s vehicle as that's what I'm vested in as far as batteries go. I wouldn't mind getting an 8s capable esc but it would most likely continue to be run at 6s. Thanks for any help and great video. Much more informative than most everything else I've seen.
@innovation RC My first RC car is the XMAXX 8S. Which Motor and ESC is the best you recommend for bashing? I would greatly appreciate your advice. Thank you.
To bash? Honestly keep it stock with the stock gearing and it's already optimized form factory to be bashed. If you go a bigger motor with more torque those diffs in the x Maxx won't last long at all
I am picking up my Losi DBXL E nextweek i wanted the Castle 1100Kv but it's sold out everywhere, So still undecided on the Castle Mamba XLX 2 800kv, But if i did decide to go with the 800kv with a 18 T Pinion, What do you think the Max speed i can get out the DBXL-E?
The review of the 1100kv hobbywing in a 30+lb vehicle isn’t really correct. I ran it on 8s, (stock gearing )13t pinion 50t spur, hobbywing max 5 esc in my dbxle and it reached temps of just under 200* with a gcrc Maximus v2 fan setup for about 10 minutes. The manufacturer states for “light duty 1:5” and 6th scale. I swapped to an 800kv and all the heat was gone even when i went up to an 18t pinion. Temps were 106* I prefer my hobbywing over the castles I’ve had. The castle burned out too quick, got too hot too fast even with stock gearing and massive fans. Sure HW isn’t as “powerful” but they last longer. This is just my experience. But good reviews man!
Nice video! 👍👍 i got a max6 & a 2000kv//4274 Motor and want to swap it with the 1650kv//4985sl. I would like to mount a larger pinion and achieve about the same speed as with the 2000kv motor, but with better temperature values and a better weight balance, since the 2x 3s batteries are positioned on the front left and the motor on the rear right. The motor is almost as heavy as the batteries and maybe I can benefit from this.
Very good video. Would you know what would be the right size tp motor to use for my Felony best for top speed? Gear set up? I’d like to use 8s. Thanks!
Awesome informational video. 1 question. for an xmaxx running 8s do you recommend the 800 or 1100kv for general bashing? Currently running castle mmx8s & 800kv geared 30/33 wfo mod 1.5s. Love the speed and crazy torque but would it be more effective to run the 1100kv & xlx2? Thanks for the awesome videos.
Castle all the way...i do love the way spectrum works with the remote without all that telemetry,but thats what the castle link is for,i rock those sensorless low kv castle and pretty sure they will destroy any competition.2028 is all u meed
I never said it's a bad motor on 8s, it's just very sluggish speed wise. Once you gear up to compensate you'll draw a decent amount from the batteries as well. It's a beast on 10-12s though!
Thanks for the video…lots of stuff I didn’t know. However, I’m wondering if you could answer this question. I have a Rovan Baja 5B that I’m converting to brushless. Kraton 8S comes with the same Spektrum Firma ESC/motor combo that I’m looking at for my Baja. Given that my Baja weighs 24.2 lbs with engine and gas tank and throttle servo which will all be removed and the Kraton 8S weighs 24 lbs, will that ESC/motor combo be OK for my Baja? It’s also a 2WD buggy vs 4WD Kraton. Thanks for the info.
@@InnovationRC hey bro, would you recommend the 1100kv in the new hoboa vte2 1/7 scale , I'm looking to pair a motor to my max 5 for the vte2. Many thanks man
I vote the 1721 2400KV haha, update. Nah, but seriously of those I like the 1650 but it has to be geared up way too much I'd rather take the simple routhe with the 2400, glad its available now. I'd like to here more about the 1515 2200KV. Castle says its rated for 9lbs vehicle so how is it I see guys run it on the 1/7 cars?
Really great video for the beginner that I am , if I want to swap out the motor and esc on my felony. Would the xlx2 and the 1100 kv work? Would I have to change any of the drive train?
You'll need to flip the motor mount around and get a bigger slide to fit the motor. Also, make bigger battery trays on the one battery side so it'll fit oppositely the motor. The stock tray doesn't hold much to be alone
I got an xmaxx that I want to upgrade which esc , motor , pinion/spur should I get for bashing , and speeds up to 80mph that's giving me cool temps and battery types?
6:40 there is no debate. Higher kV = lower internal resistance = higher efficiency. Geared for the same speed, high kV will yield longer runtime than low kV.
Awesome video brother u should keep making videos like this you seem to have a lot of knowledge in this RC hobby And its very interesting how u explain things very good my friend
Just ordered Spektrum 1100kv motor and 160amp esc. The 150 flamed in fire in my felony. Question for anyone who can answer. Should I put the new motor in my felony or in my Kraton 8s? Which motor would be best suited for the felony? 1100kv or the 1250kv motor?
@@InnovationRC i found the right motor specs for me but i want a double shaft and none of these companies makes a double shaft. I need to run several inline coupled together... Do you know of any company that make double shaft motors??
Hello my friend ...i'm have car Arrma 1/8 typhon..I want to upgrade the engine to be as powerful as possible. Do you have options to show me.. thanks very much 😊😊😊
So in your opinion...if I wanted to run a mamba X8S or even an XLX2 in an XMAXX, would you recommend the 800kv or 1100kv 2028 motor? I’d ideally want to go with the XLX2 to have a little future proofing so which of the two 2028 motors would be best suited for it and what gear setup would you recommend for everyday bashing, slower sensored technical runs with the occasional top speed rips?
I'd go 1100. 800kv you need to gear so far up you'll actually create more load on the motor trading off its efficiency. Might as well be in gear reduction with the 1100kv while having speed over the 800kv.
@@InnovationRC I appreciate the feedback and I completely agree with your recommendation. Would you recommend going with an even higher KV setup like the 1717 1260 or 1650 motors? My goal is to have a stable setup that will give me 60-70 mph top speed with adequate torque. I want to keep the temps down and have a proper gearing setup as well. I know I’ll be limited with this setup in an xmaxx even with a wfo motor mount. Any gearing recommendations to achieve these goals?
Either 1100kv will do great. Can't go wrong castle or hobbywing 1100. I prefer castle because it has the sensor port ready when you want to run sensored
I have a fg sprotline AWD. Had bevor a max5 1100kv 8s setup and now I think about max4 800kvcastle on 10s What do you recommend? And how much difference could it be?
I'm new at this, and my brain tells me the higher the kv the higher the rpm, now I'm not so sure. I ordered a 4070 or 72, 2000kv and a 150 amp esc. My intention is to put it in a 12th scale vehicle, 72 spur gear and a 39 pinion. Have I wasted my money???. I love what you're doing and I got the bug, haha
I have a max6 1100kv in my x maxx. I had a 800kv i was going to put in it thinking it was better. But now i dont want to. What do you think? Im running 24/35 and its amazing.
If you want to run 800kv you'll need tj gear to the moon, like 39/39 gearing. Direct drive tj get any speed. I'd actually stick with that 1100kv motor it's more suited for that truck. Plus you'll draw more from the battery with the 800kv with the insane gear ratio you need to run just to get the speed you want
Innovation RC thank you! Ill stick with the 1100kv! Im running a 24/35 gearing which is nice. But was think about going to 30/35. What do you think of that gearing?
You can go with either 1100s. Honestly may prefer the 5687. Just more staple for the size. The 2028 is big for sure, but still I'd choose the 5687 over the 1100 only because of size. That castle 1100 is a big motor, not needed really for Xmaxx
I'm looking to upgrade my motor on my xrt. I have a hobbywing max 6 what motor would you recommend? Also whats the difference between sensored and sensorless motors? Which one is better
Great vid 👍im running the 1250 spectrum in my xmaxx with the standard esc at the moment, I want to upgrade the esc and was just wanting to know what would you recommend max 5 or max 6.
Great explanation. I run a leopard 58113 1150kv & a max5 w 30/40 gearing in my x-maxx and its way overkill. I love it, but the power is just way stupid!
Id like to see a 4 motor direct drive car with the 1100 kv motors. 1/5-1/6th scale. I would love to see a basher but the motors would probably be to heavy to bash a truck with a 2lb motor on each wheel. But a speed car would be able to handle the weight on the motor. The esc would probably run 4-5 thousand dollars alone and the battery would weigh more than the car. But it would be fun to see that.
I'm looking to do a 6s convertion on my Traxxas Maxx 1/10. I upgraded everything already as far as widemaxx, metal axels, Reefs Servo Raw 500. JUST NOT SURE ABOUT THE ESC MOTOR combination I should go with? And gearing I'm a basher
Learning a lot from your video guys.my friend sellin me his 2028 800kv motor planning to put it in my limitless just want a decent set up what you guys think.thanks more power and video
Nice video! I have my mojave exb now and I stil not sure what’s it gonna be I really want to make it a beast first I thought the spektrum 160amp with 1250 kv motor but the 1100 castle motor is maybe better or the 1650 kv if I’m correct what do you suggest I want to get 100km/h but stil a lot of traction. Which esc an motor do you suggest for this setup
So how do set up breaks for reverse? Mine goes from reverse straight to forward when applying break, it's horrible. I have the funny looking xlx esc and 800kv motor. Thanks for your time.
So just out of curiosity why do a lot of the guys that do the big block swap in the Xmaxx use the 800kv motor instead of the 1100kv motor. Been wanting to do this myself but wanting to use the 1100kv but not seeing hardly anyone using it so because of that I haven’t done it myself yet. This video did help but your input would be appreciated. Love your channel 💯
What's up! Thank you for the love so I'll show you some back. I will be blunt. You CANT go wrong with either 1100kv or 800kv. Why 800kv is used more is because it's been out way before the castle 1100 has been. The 300kv difference makes up for a lot of speed lost in the 800kv. If you gear somewhat normally you'll be golden. More torque and cooler temps than the stock motor if you go with the 1100kv. You don't need to gear to the moon to compensate like in the 800kv. Plus, 1100s gearing will be in reduction thus amplifying torque rather than the 800kv being in almost overdrive to get speed back. But the 800kv can has more torque to begin with. It honestly pans out either way. I personally like to be in gear reduction for more torque in the transmission rather than relying on motor torque. Can go back and fourth all day. What motor is better? Depends on the batteries 😉
@Ford f150 5.4 the 800kv is more Torque but the 1100kv is faster and still has lots of Torque. Now I have the 1100kv in my X-Maxx and the 800kv in my kraton. From now on I'm buying 1100kv's for all my big rigs. I haven't had any issues with heating either.
Informative as always man, I got given a new HW max6 combo 1650kv, ideally should go my Kraton, what about running it in my infraction on 8s how will it perform speed wise geared appropriately?
Definitely a solid setup for either vehicle. Just watch your temps, once you get used to the how long it takes for temperature to rise, you may not need to check it anymore and you'll just know when to stop and cool down.
I have the 800 kv because that's what I was sold...I know nothing about all this...soo I need to run the 800 for now. What gears should I be running the ratio?
The issue i have with the 1100kv hobbywing is it will cut the esc out if you try to run a 25/35 mod 1.5 on the xmaxx.....max6 and max5 its basically at the 200amp threshold so thats why I'm debating on swapping out for a 1/6 mmx 8s cause It has a higher amp cut off
I'd just go bigger esc... I never liked hobbywing escs because they are scared to push amperage. Your issue is the esc only trying to save itself. Go with a mamba monster x 8s or xlx2 and you'll see a huge difference
Hi there I own mamba x 6s and 2650kv motor that is design for 1/8..now I was wondering if my motor max is 60,000 rpm for 2650kv and I'm using the max lipo for that motor which is a 4s,can I use this setup for drag racing no prep?
Oh my God I can’t believe this. This was exactly what I needed to hear the exact information I needed before buying a motor. Nobody else has done this video. This was beauty man legendary. This Chanel just got top 3 status
Certainly glad it helped you out 😃
Yes it definitely helped me make my decision!! Thanks
Gotta give my fav to the 1100kv hobbywing. Gave a 3800kv castle motor a go in an arrma (yes, i set it up properly) and it burnt out on a 16 tooth pinion and a 50-ish spur within a month of ownership. Tried an 1100kv hobbywing axe motor and it’s worked with no issues for 2 and a half years now. Castle is more for performance, it takes skill to work them properly. Meanwhile hobbywing is mainly reliability, but in my opinion, their motors are just plain better.
what arrma did you install the 3800kv motor in? if it was on a 3s you would have a 50 or a 57 spur, i have a 3800kv motor on a typhon and has worked great with 15/57 gearing
the castle 2028 motor is what I would look into...great info my brotha💯💯👍👍
Thanks brother! Yessir!
This video made my Kraton 8S EXB motor decision easy. Going with the Castle 1100kv. I'm considering a 34/47 gear ratio. What ratio would you recommended for bashing?
I went with the hobbywing max5 with the spektrum 1250kv did have a 25/47 was to tall motor was getting way to hot went down to 20/47 still getting hot so went down again to 17/47 seems to be good there but still gets hot after 10-15 minutes of run time ive got no fans for the motor tho and the pinion came loose today so not sure if that was causing it to be hot didn’t notice till I got home and went over it tho
I know this is an old Video, but I like to use Tekin Motors on my cars, I have never used castle, hobbywing, or spektrum. thank you for making this video
Thank you! Tekin makes some good stuff too!
Very cool info video exactly what I was wondering, planning to get kraton exb 1/5 scale and was looking at Max5 800kv or 1100kv combo , so looks like I want the max5 1100kv for the 1/5 scale exb with 22pinion 39spur. Mainly for bashing
Very informative. I like the video, it gave me all kinds of good info. I'm going to stick the 1650KV motor in my big rock6s. Gymkhana style and burning rubber sideways. That's how I drive all the damn time.
wow! your presentation is amazing really makes sense. i have a 8s kraton and was thinking about getting a big 800kv castle system for it. but now i’m thinking a 1100kv with proper gearing will be more then enough. new sub here🤟🤟🤟 big thx for the awesome video🔥🔥🔥
Cool video man, nice to see concise information like this! Thanks!
Appreciate you watching, anytime 💪
Coming from 5th scale gas, I was clueless on these. Thanx for the breakdown!
Glad this video benefitted you!
I have a Losi DBXLe 2.0 with BRP 7" wheels. I want to get the best long-term ESC and motor. Should I go with a Castle XLX2 + 800KV or 1100KV?
Should I run a Max5 + other motor combo instead? FYI... I have the stock 13T gear but also have a 17T and an 18T gear waiting. Thanx!
What would you suggest for my DBXLE2.0?
XLX2 ESC + latest firmware 2021 (I think I want to stick with Castle)
Castle 1100KV
Castle 800KV
TP Power TP5870 1100KV
TP Power TP5870 990KV
TP Power TP5870 900KV
I've got 16T, 17T and 18T pinions and will keep the stock 50T spur (I don't want to change the spur). I want much greater than stock speeds on dirt (never street) and greater torque to give me wheelie power. My current batteries are 6500mah 100C (4s x 2 = 8s). I want to stick to an 8s system and I'll be getting cooling fans for the motor. Thanx!
I am brand new to this hobby. I enjoy your videos.
I appreciate that. Feel free to ask questions if need be
Great video 👍 Really excited to see what the new castle 1100kv will do in the K8S. Hopefully you will do some videos with it 👌
Did a couple speed passes but I have some awesome plans for it very soon
@@InnovationRC Yeah man I saw the speed runs 👍 Impressive. Can't wait to see more 😃
Cool review of big RC motors, I'm considering running the Castle MMX 8s with 1717 1,650KV Motor in my XO-1 roller project and my future Infraction as well as maybe a Sledge and i might get 1,260KV for an X-Maxx someday.
Im fine with my 4x4 Stampede with a 2650kv motor and 11tooth pinion. Its around 35mph, I was hitting close to 60mph with the stock VXL system, but that thing ran hott! Even with a 9tooth pinion it was some where around 45mph and got toasty by the end of the pack. Good for 2s I guess, but I got so many 3s packs. With the 2650kv 3670 motor, it runs quite cool, and the wheelies thing does now is effortlessly, and temps are way better.
Sounds like a good setup to kill some time.. It’ll never give the full on rush that a 1:5 or even a 1:8 scale overpowered RC can do though. Being “fine” with a Traxxas 2S-3S RTR basically means you started out at the bottom of the barrel (same place I did, Traxxas marketing is fantastic and reels in the beginners) and you are sticking to the starter truck lineup and never venturing out.
I’m currently going down my list of 12 RCs (just got into the hobby in June of this year so I’m still building up the fleet) and removing the installed ESC, motor, and pinion/spur gears, whether they are RTR or installed onto roller, then stepping up the voltage to the next level. So my 3S rig will run 4S, 6S rigs will run 8S, 8S rigs will be upgraded to a Castle MMX8S or XLX2, 2S brushed get 3S brushless. Then all of them are getting a heat sink for the specific vehicle along with a motor fan and a Spektrum receiver (SR6100AT, SR6110AT, SR6200A, SR315, SR215) to link to my Spektrum DX5C transmitter,
I’m never “fine” unless it’s fast enough to wreak havoc on my nerves.
Will VERY likely go with a Castle 2028 1100kv when I buy an Outcast or Kraton 8S EXB; a friend is running an RTR Outcast 8s with a 800kv 2028 and 39/39 gearing; thing gets barely warm.
One thing about the Spektrum stuff: most people dont know, but the motors and ESCs is just relabeled Hobbywing stuff. So no reason to pay extra, when you can get the same thing for far less.
I brought the hobbywing max 5 combo with the 800kv motor for my exb kraton 1/5
Fanfreckintastic video. Thank you brosky
I hope some more mainstream 12s ESCs come out soon... I'd love to build a 12S outcast that's actually practical.
We will see in the future
Nep what does a 12s Outcast do that an 8s can't?
Thanks for the good information 👍👍. Now only if !!
Castle made a 12s ESC 😁
Lol yeah agreed on that. They have 8s power down for sure
Im just getting into this great hobby im getting my rc car 1/10 scale sometime this month and looking for a motor upgrade from a 550 still learning
I have the traxxas 6s vxl system in my rustler 4x4 with the stock 3s motor.I run it in 3s for normal bashing but when I’m doing speed runs it works perfectly fine you just gotta make sure it doesn’t get to hit so I put dual fans on it that really keep the temp down
What would be the best motor/ esc combo for my stock 4 tec 3.0 ?
Running 3s or 6s.? Just something to drive around in the 50 to 60 mph range
I'd go with the 1415 2400kv if you want 3/4s. Largest 14 series motor that you can still fit in a 4tec!
Just dropped a 800 kv in my 8S Kraton. Now i may start running a 10S buttery. But will the stock esc handle it ?
Those big Motors are so powerful they're being used in race Skateboarding making almost 60mph.
Yessir you are correct!
Thank you so much this is exactly what I needed!
Thanx for a decision making video. I wanna upgrade my X-MAXX 8s for speed runs and it looks like you'v helped me out with a few things. I'm going to try the 1100kv with the XLX2 ESC, then experiment on gearing.
THANXSOMUCH, and
KEEP ON BASHING 🇨🇦
i just hit sub, this is the video im looking for! thank you so much more power to the channel
What is better faster castle 1100 kv or the 800kv
Since I couldn't find the 1100kv and XLX2 combo for my Outcast 8s, I went with the 800kv motor. I'm running 39/39 gearing and I'll see how it goes. Thanks for the info. On my xmaxx trucks I'm running the max 5 and 1100kv 5687 motor with 25/35 gearing. Those are ballistic. 56mph on grass and probably way more on concrete. 👍
800kv will still do great. Just gear it up high and get extra batteries 😉
@@InnovationRC if it can do 50mph on grass I'm more than satisfied with that. I don't want to stress out my batteries 🤣
@@InnovationRC after testing the 800kv motor it puffed my batteries! I'll go with 35/39 gearing. I'm not impressed honestly so far with the 39/39 gearing. My xmaxx running the 5687SL 1100kv with 25/35 gearing get up to speed MUCH faster. I might try the 5687SL with 24/34 gearing on my Outcast 8s. The 1100kv motor from Castle is on backorder.
@@joseCalderon1976 I been searching to bro the 1100Kv is sold out everywhere
@@monroethegreat7539 The Castle one? Or the hobbywing one? The hobbywing 1100kv works great for the lighter Xmaxx. I've heard that it works great for the heavier Outcast and Kraton 8s.
✌🏻😎🏴Dude I love geeking out with you. Keep these types of videos coming dude 👍🏻
Thank you sir! Haha me too!
RC Boca on Hillsborough?
Yessir!
I have an Arrma Fireteam which I plan on keeping stock for some time but what would you recommend as a good esc/motor combo for that vehicle? I do more off road speed running and small jumps than big jump bashing or on road speed runs. I would also prefer to keep it as a 6s vehicle as that's what I'm vested in as far as batteries go. I wouldn't mind getting an 8s capable esc but it would most likely continue to be run at 6s. Thanks for any help and great video. Much more informative than most everything else I've seen.
@innovation RC My first RC car is the XMAXX 8S. Which Motor and ESC is the best you recommend for bashing? I would greatly appreciate your advice. Thank you.
To bash? Honestly keep it stock with the stock gearing and it's already optimized form factory to be bashed. If you go a bigger motor with more torque those diffs in the x Maxx won't last long at all
1717 baby
What’s your opinion on running the exb with the 1717 and mmx8 and what would the best gearing you recommend? Good Vid , thanks
For what it's worth I'm starting with a 20t pinion with the stock spur. I'll fire it up this week sometime.
What motor would you put in a team losi baja rey
I am picking up my Losi DBXL E nextweek i wanted the Castle 1100Kv but it's sold out everywhere, So still undecided on the Castle Mamba XLX 2 800kv, But if i did decide to go with the 800kv with a 18 T Pinion, What do you think the Max speed i can get out the DBXL-E?
So in your best opinion which motor is better with a Max 6 the 1717 the spectrum 1250 or the hobbywing 1650 for speedruns in a Limitless
1650 for speedruns. 1250 to bash. Either brand just go by kv
Which pinon and spur gear should I use will 1100 motor and castle esc? Please help I'm new to the hobby oops I have xrt
The review of the 1100kv hobbywing in a 30+lb vehicle isn’t really correct. I ran it on 8s, (stock gearing )13t pinion 50t spur, hobbywing max 5 esc in my dbxle and it reached temps of just under 200* with a gcrc Maximus v2 fan setup for about 10 minutes. The manufacturer states for “light duty 1:5” and 6th scale.
I swapped to an 800kv and all the heat was gone even when i went up to an 18t pinion. Temps were 106*
I prefer my hobbywing over the castles I’ve had. The castle burned out too quick, got too hot too fast even with stock gearing and massive fans. Sure HW isn’t as “powerful” but they last longer.
This is just my experience.
But good reviews man!
1100kv hobbywing I got to try the castle 1100kv
Great video, great information. What motor would you recommend in a DBXL-E 2.0 with a Max 5?
Nice video! 👍👍 i got a max6 & a 2000kv//4274 Motor and want to swap it with the 1650kv//4985sl. I would like to mount a larger pinion and achieve about the same speed as with the 2000kv motor, but with better temperature values and a better weight balance, since the 2x 3s batteries are positioned on the front left and the motor on the rear right. The motor is almost as heavy as the batteries and maybe I can benefit from this.
Very good video. Would you know what would be the right size tp motor to use for my Felony best for top speed? Gear set up? I’d like to use 8s. Thanks!
Awesome informational video. 1 question. for an xmaxx running 8s do you recommend the 800 or 1100kv for general bashing? Currently running castle mmx8s & 800kv geared 30/33 wfo mod 1.5s. Love the speed and crazy torque but would it be more effective to run the 1100kv & xlx2? Thanks for the awesome videos.
Did you find an answer? I’m in the same boat haha.
Castle all the way...i do love the way spectrum works with the remote without all that telemetry,but thats what the castle link is for,i rock those sensorless low kv castle and pretty sure they will destroy any competition.2028 is all u meed
2028 1100kv motor + XLX2 ESC, what’s the best gearing for speed in my Xmaxx?
Can you run a 1250 kv spectrum with the stock esc on aarma felony?
Great video but at the very end I disagree the 800kv Castle creations is amazing on 8S
I never said it's a bad motor on 8s, it's just very sluggish speed wise. Once you gear up to compensate you'll draw a decent amount from the batteries as well. It's a beast on 10-12s though!
Thanks for the video…lots of stuff I didn’t know. However, I’m wondering if you could answer this question. I have a Rovan Baja 5B that I’m converting to brushless. Kraton 8S comes with the same Spektrum Firma ESC/motor combo that I’m looking at for my Baja. Given that my Baja weighs 24.2 lbs with engine and gas tank and throttle servo which will all be removed and the Kraton 8S weighs 24 lbs, will that ESC/motor combo be OK for my Baja? It’s also a 2WD buggy vs 4WD Kraton. Thanks for the info.
I'd go with the 1100kv and gear it moderately you'll like the results
@@InnovationRC hey bro, would you recommend the 1100kv in the new hoboa vte2 1/7 scale , I'm looking to pair a motor to my max 5 for the vte2.
Many thanks man
I vote the 1721 2400KV haha, update. Nah, but seriously of those I like the 1650 but it has to be geared up way too much I'd rather take the simple routhe with the 2400, glad its available now. I'd like to here more about the 1515 2200KV. Castle says its rated for 9lbs vehicle so how is it I see guys run it on the 1/7 cars?
Really great video for the beginner that I am , if I want to swap out the motor and esc on my felony. Would the xlx2 and the 1100 kv work? Would I have to change any of the drive train?
You'll need to flip the motor mount around and get a bigger slide to fit the motor. Also, make bigger battery trays on the one battery side so it'll fit oppositely the motor. The stock tray doesn't hold much to be alone
I got an xmaxx that I want to upgrade which esc , motor , pinion/spur should I get for bashing , and speeds up to 80mph that's giving me cool temps and battery types?
I'd go xlx2 and 800kv motor
My 1717 also blew I think they have a design flaw brother seriously thought I had a fluke but then my buddies blew a week after
6:40 there is no debate. Higher kV = lower internal resistance = higher efficiency. Geared for the same speed, high kV will yield longer runtime than low kV.
Awesome video brother u should keep making videos like this you seem to have a lot of knowledge in this RC hobby And its very interesting how u explain things very good my friend
Thank you for sure. I do my best to explain it in a way I understand for you guys. I don't see many reviews like these so I might as well start em!
Great vid. I went with a Max6 Combo 1650kv on my Kraton 6S EXB
Thanks for the great info. I got a max6 esc and 1100kv motor for my Redcat Rampage XBE 1/5. What pinion and spur should I use?
Now I know thanks toooo you . Xmaxx 1100kv max6 it is then . Thanks . Great vid 😎👍🏻🇬🇧
Glad you figured it out!
Just ordered Spektrum 1100kv motor and 160amp esc. The 150 flamed in fire in my felony. Question for anyone who can answer. Should I put the new motor in my felony or in my Kraton 8s? Which motor would be best suited for the felony? 1100kv or the 1250kv motor?
Thank you for this breakdown very well put!
Glad you found it informational
@@InnovationRC i found the right motor specs for me but i want a double shaft and none of these companies makes a double shaft.
I need to run several inline coupled together...
Do you know of any company that make double shaft motors??
Hello my friend ...i'm have car Arrma 1/8 typhon..I want to upgrade the engine to be as powerful as possible. Do you have options to show me.. thanks very much 😊😊😊
So in your opinion...if I wanted to run a mamba X8S or even an XLX2 in an XMAXX, would you recommend the 800kv or 1100kv 2028 motor? I’d ideally want to go with the XLX2 to have a little future proofing so which of the two 2028 motors would be best suited for it and what gear setup would you recommend for everyday bashing, slower sensored technical runs with the occasional top speed rips?
I'd go 1100. 800kv you need to gear so far up you'll actually create more load on the motor trading off its efficiency. Might as well be in gear reduction with the 1100kv while having speed over the 800kv.
@@InnovationRC I appreciate the feedback and I completely agree with your recommendation. Would you recommend going with an even higher KV setup like the 1717 1260 or 1650 motors? My goal is to have a stable setup that will give me 60-70 mph top speed with adequate torque. I want to keep the temps down and have a proper gearing setup as well. I know I’ll be limited with this setup in an xmaxx even with a wfo motor mount. Any gearing recommendations to achieve these goals?
Great video brother!
Thank you man 💪
Always great information 👍👍💯💯💯💯
Thanks Earl appreciate that
Castle needs to bring out some more 12s esc that’s if there already is some I’m not sure
Just installed the Max5 in my Kraton 8S. Would like to change the motor. What would you suggest for a ton of power?
Either 1100kv will do great. Can't go wrong castle or hobbywing 1100. I prefer castle because it has the sensor port ready when you want to run sensored
Great explanation. Question. Castle Monster 8S/1717 in a X-Maxx. Good idea? If so what gear ratio would you suggest?
I think the new 1717 1250kv will be proper for an Xmaxx. I would what it 20/50 for decent all around performance on 8s
Great video. Have a question what motor is better--hobbywing 1650kv or the Spectrum 1250kv? You didn't talk about that motor
Consider the hobbywing 1650 almost equivalent to the castle 1650, but not sensored. Same what I stated for the castle applies
I have a fg sprotline AWD. Had bevor a max5 1100kv 8s setup and now I think about max4 800kvcastle on 10s
What do you recommend?
And how much difference could it be?
I'm new at this, and my brain tells me the higher the kv the higher the rpm, now I'm not so sure. I ordered a 4070 or 72, 2000kv and a 150 amp esc. My intention is to put it in a 12th scale vehicle, 72 spur gear and a 39 pinion. Have I wasted my money???. I love what you're doing and I got the bug, haha
I have a max6 1100kv in my x maxx. I had a 800kv i was going to put in it thinking it was better. But now i dont want to. What do you think? Im running 24/35 and its amazing.
If you want to run 800kv you'll need tj gear to the moon, like 39/39 gearing. Direct drive tj get any speed. I'd actually stick with that 1100kv motor it's more suited for that truck. Plus you'll draw more from the battery with the 800kv with the insane gear ratio you need to run just to get the speed you want
Innovation RC thank you! Okay cool! Sticking with the 1100!
Innovation RC thank you! Ill stick with the 1100kv! Im running a 24/35 gearing which is nice. But was think about going to 30/35. What do you think of that gearing?
What do you think would be the right all around set up for an 8s Xmaxx?
You can go with either 1100s. Honestly may prefer the 5687. Just more staple for the size. The 2028 is big for sure, but still I'd choose the 5687 over the 1100 only because of size. That castle 1100 is a big motor, not needed really for Xmaxx
Innovation RC Okay, I will go with the 5867 and max6 combo. Thanks!
I'm looking to upgrade my motor on my xrt. I have a hobbywing max 6 what motor would you recommend? Also whats the difference between sensored and sensorless motors? Which one is better
Got a kraton 6s v4 looking to upgrade motor and esc what combo you recommend? For Bashing, thanks
I run a TurboChubacabra with the FPFannyPak Extender. Thing goes like 35
Great vid 👍im running the 1250 spectrum in my xmaxx with the standard esc at the moment, I want to upgrade the esc and was just wanting to know what would you recommend max 5 or max 6.
What would you suggest for the 1/5 Arrma Kraton EXB 8s (2021)? Not looking for insane speeds, but low temps and runtime.
I'd go with an 1100kv. Either hobbywing or castle. If you have a sensored esc already definitely go castle it'll be super smooth
@@InnovationRC many thanks for your help.
@@InnovationRC Perfect. Done. Many thanks.
Great explanation. I run a leopard 58113 1150kv & a max5 w 30/40 gearing in my x-maxx and its way overkill. I love it, but the power is just way stupid!
Baah never overkill, solid gearing for that kv! 😉
HW 800kv in my xmaxx..love it..running 30/35 gears
that was helpful. thanks!
I have a losi dbxle 2.0 and the 2028 1100kv says for 45 lb cars and the 2028 800kv says 30 lb cars and want to know what I should order
I'd go 800kv on that big boy. 1100kv is still ok just gear in reduction very appropriately
Thanks for the information. Very clearly said
Id like to see a 4 motor direct drive car with the 1100 kv motors. 1/5-1/6th scale. I would love to see a basher but the motors would probably be to heavy to bash a truck with a 2lb motor on each wheel. But a speed car would be able to handle the weight on the motor. The esc would probably run 4-5 thousand dollars alone and the battery would weigh more than the car. But it would be fun to see that.
I'm looking to do a 6s convertion on my Traxxas Maxx 1/10. I upgraded everything already as far as widemaxx, metal axels, Reefs Servo Raw 500. JUST NOT SURE ABOUT THE ESC MOTOR combination I should go with? And gearing I'm a basher
Learning a lot from your video guys.my friend sellin me his 2028 800kv motor planning to put it in my limitless just want a decent set up what you guys think.thanks more power and video
Great info..The biggest motor I own is only a 4274 lol
Nothing wrong with that! It's a great can size
Nice video!
I have my mojave exb now and I stil not sure what’s it gonna be I really want to make it a beast first I thought the spektrum 160amp with 1250 kv motor but the 1100 castle motor is maybe better or the 1650 kv if I’m correct what do you suggest I want to get 100km/h but stil a lot of traction.
Which esc an motor do you suggest for this setup
Get a spektrum firma 160a and a spektrum firma 780kv 56113 motor
HI!
which motor do you recommend for Kraton 8s exb and Mojave 6s exb
thanks Herman
I'd go Castle 2028 1100kv for the 8s and 1650kv for the 6s Mojave
So how do set up breaks for reverse? Mine goes from reverse straight to forward when applying break, it's horrible. I have the funny looking xlx esc and 800kv motor. Thanks for your time.
I hope to see soon 4985 650 kv to run 12s xmaxx for long run time and cooler to save lipo live and durable setup
So just out of curiosity why do a lot of the guys that do the big block swap in the Xmaxx use the 800kv motor instead of the 1100kv motor. Been wanting to do this myself but wanting to use the 1100kv but not seeing hardly anyone using it so because of that I haven’t done it myself yet. This video did help but your input would be appreciated.
Love your channel 💯
What's up! Thank you for the love so I'll show you some back. I will be blunt. You CANT go wrong with either 1100kv or 800kv. Why 800kv is used more is because it's been out way before the castle 1100 has been. The 300kv difference makes up for a lot of speed lost in the 800kv. If you gear somewhat normally you'll be golden. More torque and cooler temps than the stock motor if you go with the 1100kv. You don't need to gear to the moon to compensate like in the 800kv. Plus, 1100s gearing will be in reduction thus amplifying torque rather than the 800kv being in almost overdrive to get speed back. But the 800kv can has more torque to begin with. It honestly pans out either way. I personally like to be in gear reduction for more torque in the transmission rather than relying on motor torque. Can go back and fourth all day.
What motor is better? Depends on the batteries 😉
Hey thanks brother I appreciate your input 🙏💯😎
I wish I had watched this video before buying my castle 800kv for my kraton 8s. Guess I'll get an 1100kv for my X-Maxx
Why what happened not powerful?? I just order the combo xlx2+ 800kv 2028 for my outcast exb 8s my friend tell me this 800kv is a torque monster
@Ford f150 5.4 the 800kv is more Torque but the 1100kv is faster and still has lots of Torque. Now I have the 1100kv in my X-Maxx and the 800kv in my kraton. From now on I'm buying 1100kv's for all my big rigs. I haven't had any issues with heating either.
Informative as always man, I got given a new HW max6 combo 1650kv, ideally should go my Kraton, what about running it in my infraction on 8s how will it perform speed wise geared appropriately?
Definitely a solid setup for either vehicle. Just watch your temps, once you get used to the how long it takes for temperature to rise, you may not need to check it anymore and you'll just know when to stop and cool down.
I am planning on doing a xMaxx with a 2028, 800 KV Castle in a hobby wing max for to run on 12 S what do you recommend for gearing?
I have the 800 kv because that's what I was sold...I know nothing about all this...soo I need to run the 800 for now. What gears should I be running the ratio?
The issue i have with the 1100kv hobbywing is it will cut the esc out if you try to run a 25/35 mod 1.5 on the xmaxx.....max6 and max5 its basically at the 200amp threshold so thats why I'm debating on swapping out for a 1/6 mmx 8s cause It has a higher amp cut off
I'd just go bigger esc... I never liked hobbywing escs because they are scared to push amperage. Your issue is the esc only trying to save itself. Go with a mamba monster x 8s or xlx2 and you'll see a huge difference
That's why I wish hobbywing was like castle where you can make adjustments to it....looks like castle will be king 🤴
Mamba are power monsters but thats also why they also catch fire so often
Fav is castle 2200kv
Hi there I own mamba x 6s and 2650kv motor that is design for 1/8..now I was wondering if my motor max is 60,000 rpm for 2650kv and I'm using the max lipo for that motor which is a 4s,can I use this setup for drag racing no prep?
I just need a high torque motor that can fit in my 1/14 rc truck currently have a 80t motor...no good...any recommendations?
I'd go with a 1406 series 3800kv
@@InnovationRC thank you 🙏🏾
Castle motors is the way to go.