I’ll be honest, I think my fav videos from you are your “worst of” videos they are funny and informative to me who is pretty new to firearms and have definitely saved me some money
Used to have one and they are indeed reliable. For a budget gun you could definitely do worse but being that a canik isn’t much more expensive but far superior it’s not the best choice.
Have one as well, and bone-stock, it has been awesome. I did eventually upgrade it with Lakeline SS recoil springs and striker sleeve /springs. It is definitely my EDC with Hornady Crit. Def. rounds.
Dude, I love how you seamlessly shout out your other “price point” videos at the end. You are my “go to” for research when I want to buy a new firearm.
@@SlaveKnightGael1579 Gun Jesus once got it to fire consecutive rounds. The Zip 22 promptly locked up so badly Ian had to disassemble it to render it safe.
You know what. It would have worked. If they made a linear compensator. Hollowed out the handle to carry ammo. Give it actual sites. Why have one? To kill a suffering animal.
@@daveh7720 I heard of a Lady that shot herself she had a Asthma inhaler and a .22 handgun, both under her pillow 😢 and she grabbed the gun thinking it was the inhaler, and had a negligent discharge.
Totally agree with Chris, the pen gun should only be a collector's item, not a self-defense tool. Carrying it for protection could put the user in an even more dangerous situation!
I'm 62. I have my fathers S+W 1950's revolvers. One is target, one is the State Trooper 357 that Mass. asked for. The first 357 was S+W, it had a satin finish and the troops wanted a more basic,(and cheaper version), So S+W rebuilt it, gave it a WWII black finish like the brits used, beefed it up and sold it for less. Same source, High standard .22, W/ compensator and 2 barrel weights. Drive nails at 50 yards all day long. Sig Sauer 225, ( 1979 ish, barrel and lower stamped, "Made In West Germany". A Colt M 1911 issued in 1918, also the DOM is '18. Still qualify and carry. Run 180's instead of 230's. Just a smaller Volkswagen flying through the air. S+W .45 revolver, WWII army issue. Wasenfabrik Mauser 7.64mm Model 1910 pocket pistol, recovered from a German soldier. The last 3 were from the son of a WWII soldier who made the trip from Normandy to the battle of the bulge. My uncles WWII issue Berreta, he was on our side in Sicily as a partisan. Charter Arms Pitbull, daily carry. A Nebraska Centennial colt 45 in .22, Rossi .22 long barrel. 2 of Nono's S+W 5 shot crack open .38 shorts. Just sold 1 4" S+W .357, One 4 " S+W .44 mag, one 6" S+W .44, all SS. Bought during Obama high ammo price days, no -3's. Paid $1100.00 all 3 back then. Sold at $2650.00 There are more but I can't remember and don't want to go down stairs. The Moral here. Buy US known manufacturers only. Unless you can get an old Sig, don't buy a new one. All striker guns are garbage. When citizens came for purchase permits we ask, they all say Glock, Our answer is the police and military are trained to handle inexpensive HOLSTER ONLY striker guns. If you really like what the police have, drive a Ford Crown Vic for 20 years.
This was actually ENORMOUSLY entertaining.... except for that Girsan... because if I'd bought that for some reason I'd actually be seriously pissed off... but the rest, hysterical.
Thought he already did that. There aren't many options. Cheapest is prob the Springfield, then the new platypus. Both are under $1500, that is if you mean 1911 double stack. If you just want an old school 1911 single stack there are plenty of options.
As far as I know, the LiveFreeArmory Apollo 11 at $979 is the only sub $1000 Dbl stack 1911 that has received positive reviews. HO and PV both liked it. Not sure if either one has put 1000 rounds through one yet.
Tisas BR9, MAC 1911 DS, RIA Ultra, LFA Apollo 11. For the money, the MAC 1911 DS is hands down the best at its price point, considering, it comes with a bull barrel, RMR footprint for optic mounting, and no MIM parts unlike the $1500 SA Prodigy (LOL). All for $800 too.
@@gaylenstone9329 I have at least a half dozen Taurus pistols. My edc is a GX4. I have zero issues with them. I’ve only shot 1 other gun worse than the pt-22 and that was a Jimenez arms nickel plated .22 I picked up for $30. It’s literally a single shot cuz it will never load a 2nd round 😂
@@gaylenstone9329 btw this piece of shit she had to have because it was chrome with pink grips and gold accents. It was the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
I had an Intratec Tec-22, and I had the exact opposite experience with it. It was the second gun that I bought. The first was a Davis .380. I never had a failure to feed to or not firing at all. I absolutely loved that gun. Only ammo it couldn't run was CCI Shot shells.
I must have gotten the only working Taurus PT22 in existence. I've had it for probably 10 years and it runs every high velocity 22LR round I've tried. Mine is accurate and I love it. I also found it useful in easing my wife into a more serious carry gun.
I mostly just hate the fat profile of it, and you can't put slimmer grips on it. Shame, it'd be a good pocket gun otherwise. Haven't shot it a lot but it always functioned fine.
It’s funny, Taurus JUST came out with, what looks like a replacement for the PT-22, something they’re calling the 22 Tuc. 9+1 of 22lr WITH a tip up barrel.
I got the p22 last year and it worked fine until it didn't. And it started shooting itself apart like his did. I used it for a snake charmer though underneath houses because it would atleast shoot the first shot lol
And all the Posters who get it free for first try say it's wonderful, now we have to wait for those who actually paid for one to post a review. Just like the S&W Bodyguard 2.0 now I see people who paid for one doing reviews and guess what they are having problems!! shocker.
Chris, I watch so many of your videos and I must say this. You are without any question in my mind the Most Trusted and greatest guy I can watch. Great personality, spot on instructions and point to point coverage. I thank you because you have been the reason I've purchased so many more guns. Your wife is the best too. I enjoy every second of your videos and wonder what the next firearm purchase will be? Thanks .
The Intratec Tec 22 is actually just the VZ61 Skorpion "we have at home". Same charging "handle", same magazine placement, etc. Except the Skorpion actually worked, was in a centefire caliber, and was full auto.
''You will feel like J. Bond, but not like P. Brosnan Bond from Goldeneye, who can hit everything. More like Skyfall Bond, who can't hit anything..." I approve the Daniel Craig Bond slander!
On the Altor, you have to pull the trigger back partially to engage the crossbolt safety. It essentially just blocks the trigger from springing back forward. I have one, and it took me forever to figure it out. That thing sucks so hard, lol.
I have a theory that it's supposed to be a concept gun, like the clothes in a fashion show. You're never supposed to ACTUALLY use it, it was more a challenge to see how many unique features you could fit on one. Plus if you're ever desperate enough to actually use it, sounds like there's a good chance it'll be more of a grenade than a gun.
That gun makes a Jennings J22 look like a military sidearm. That altor goes straight to the gun buy back. It is a trash gun, i'd rather have a Filipino homemade slamfire shotgun for home defense than that shit. I love all guns even Saturday night specials but that thing is cursed.
I think with derringers, you're supposed to hold it by the barrels and flip the frame around. Easier to load because you're holding the part you put the rounds into, and you're in control of where the barrels are pointing the entire time.
The Taurus G2C is awesome if you buy all the Lakeline interior parts! Actually, even before it had no issues, but with replacing the factory plastic with stainless guide rod and springs and striker / springs, all very cheap! Especially if you polish the feed ramp and slide etc., it hasn't failed to do anything... I think it was $203 bucks back then! She would have paid $403 knowing what we know now! I loved the first edition Taurus 24/7! Turned 2 of my GLOCK buddies into 24/7 fans back in those days! But to each their own! Sometimes all it takes is a little polishing and basic TLC to make something work flawless! I agree, it should be flawless when you buy it, like a new car, but for 1/4 of the price I don't mind a little polishing!
My wife and I both own one. Thousands of rounds between them and not a single malfunction and totally stock. Only issues I've had is the rear sight broke on mine and the front sight fell off on hers. Other than that, just as reliable as my Glock and my S&W.
Ditto here. Lakeline SS pin bushing and pin only. Never a problem and a good CCW carry gun. $218 out the door in 2021. Mags for the G3C will also fit if you want more rounds.
That was my recommendation, . I seen a used one in a local gun shop a few years ago and actually considered it briefly just to be able to say " I own the worst " lol.
I like how you mentioned the fact that .380 isnt a very good carry caliber. I am a firearm salesman and i do my very level best to make sure that whoever comes to my counter knows as much as they need too to be safe and know they are safe. I have a thing i call seasonal firearms separation. I never really ever recommend a .380acp as a "good" option considering there are so many variations of 9mm that are fantastic for small frame people like critical defense lite and the g9 ehp bullets and other very light 60 to 65 grain external hollowpoint bullets that have basically zero recoil or very minimal recoil but are also screaming out the barrel. I put .380acp in the summer or hot month category, it can penetrate summer time clothing with no problem but winter time it would have a hard time doing body damage when it has to go through multiple layers of denim, a carhartt jacket or something very thick woven material. I walked into a local competitor of ours' gun counters and the guy there tried to tell me that 380 and 9mm were pretty much identical because they have similar case height and are the same .355 bullet. I then schooled him on a little thing called case pressure ane how 9mm has almost twice the case pressure of .380 and if they were the same as far as energy then why wont a .380 eject when shot from a 9mm? He shut up pretty quickly and said im going on lunch. A person like that should not be behind a gun counter, especially when its getting cold around where we are at and if hes telling a woman that isnt sure that a 380 is just as capable as a 9mm he should be fired.
Girsan is a dumpster fire from the poor build quality all the way to the worst post sale support in the industry. I fixed mine and sold it for less than half price new.
16:34 I have a C-9. With proper maintenance they are super reliable. I've put 1000's of rounds through mine with zero failures. It won't work with Steel Case though. As a bonus, I grabbed the T995 9mm Carbine and the mags are interchangeable between the pistol and the rifle. My C-9 is something that if (God forbid) I had to use in a life or death situation, I wouldn't question for a microsecond if it was going to work. The weight and the blowback really suck and, God knows she's ugly but I would have no issues with my life depending on it. Plus, at sub 200 prices, it's affordable enough that anybody should be able to have one for self defense. Thanks for not trashing it like a lot of other people do. My thoughts are that if I pull the "Boom Switch" and a piece of metal comes out the other end then, it's a good gun.
The Altor is really an updated zip gun. Most of those used an appropriate section of a car radio antenna for a barrel, a rubber band release to fire, and shot a 22 short (cheap) or 22lr (upscale). It's great to see 1950s juvenile delinquent tech updated to 9mm.
I have had 2 Girsans and they only seem to like HOT ammo; Had a 45 commander -7lb trigger pull-unless it was +P it had minute of hillside accuracy - went to Tisas. Also have a MC P35 - range toy BUT it loves 124gt +p standard velocity nope On the intertec did you try actual Ruger 10/22 mags? The ones that come with it will even jam a 10/22 like that - I know. Still would not carry it, but if it functions it is like a Hillbilly Skorpion range toy As for worse guns Raven and Phoenix arms comes to mind
So happy the Tec-22 is mentioned, got mine from grandpa and have dumped at least $500 in parts trying to get it to run right, has never dumped one mag without jamming, but I love it
Remington R51. My Dad bought one because it was a “Remington” and I didn’t have the heart to tell him. The language that came from that god fearing man was hilarious hahaha
I have a standard Bond Arms with a stubby 9mm barrel, and a 3 1/2" .410/.45 LC barrel. I echo everything you say here. Its a neat item for the collection, but far better options for carry. Like a J Frame...an LCP Max or BodyGuard 2.0, or even a Kel-Tec P32. I don't have personal experience with the following, but if you do a "Part 2" to this, how about a LifeCard, or a NAA Pug (or something similar)?
TY. That was fun. FWIW, I owned an older Taurus PT22 that was well-made and reliable. I still have a Beretta 21A. Couldn't/can't hit anything with either one.
My dad had a Bond Arms 38/.357 derringer. He wanted it so bad because it was made in Texas. Well, it was awful. The bottom barrel keyholes everything except snake-shot, (which is the only thing I would ever tun through it), it’s heavy and unwieldy. Strictly a novelty.
Buddy of mine had the .410. Worst trigger I’ve ever seen on a firearm. Everyone who shot it ended up hitting the ground 20 feet in front of them. I’d rather have a knife. Imo.
Interesting about the Taurus PT22 being so bad.. 5 or 6 years ago I bought one of the older models that are sort of gold colored with wooden grips and I don't recall it ever malfunctioning with all the cheap bulk pack ammo I always shoot.. Maybe I just got lucky with mine.😁
Same. I had an older silver model, and it ran fine as long as the 22 ammo was good. I also had a PT25 that was much more reliable because centerfire > rimfire.
The pt-22 poly usually works really well with 40 grain Cci minimags. If it's been cleaned it'll run decent with regular 40 grain bullets. Haven't had any problem with mine.
I used to own an IntraTec Tec-22. The problem with mine wasn't the gun itself, but rather the 30-round magazine it came with. I also got a Ramline 50-rounder for a Ruger 10-22 with it when I bought it, because the salesman was honest about how poorly the stock mag performed. With the Ramline mag that thing worked flawlessly, and the only reliability issues were the typical rimfire-related failure-to-fire. Everything went well until the magazine started to wear out after thousands of rounds and I couldn't replace it with anything other than a 10-round Ruger 10-22 mag thanks to the Brady Bill being in effect. So it came to pass that I sold it off.
Nice video! One of my first gun purchases was the Taurus G3, as an older guy new to the world of guns. I thought it was ok, until I got my hands on a S&W, Sig Sauer, Ruger and even a Kimber semi-auto. At that point I felt like the Taurus was the 1985 Ford Escort of my Rolls Royce fleet and hated even looking at it. What a rattle box! I literally gave it to my dad for a cheap ass travel pistol........never again with Taurus
Chris- thank you! I had a stressful day but your video was a JOY to watch. Probably the funniest thing I’ve seen and I totally enjoyed it. Great stuff! Great review of not great guns.
7 Pistols that I would never carry: 1: An 800lb pistol. It would just be too heavy 2: In the same vein, a 25ft long pistol. Very difficult to carry and transport in a car. 3. A pistol that has poop on it. That would just be icky. 4. A pistol that didn't save itself until marriage. I can't be shooting a pistol that I know some other guy had shot before me. 5. A pistol that doesn't work. I need a check stub for verification, no welfare, no unemployment. 6. A pistol with a flat earth finish. (It knows what it did, I don't have to explain myself to you, it does) 7. A Kel-Tec.
@@kenabi I have a lifelong hatred for strikerfire pistols because of that piece of carpet beater!! I bought one when I was like 14 and it was brand new and still the firing pin didn't work half time and when it did it didn't eject the shell another 50% of the time, the trigger was trash, the clips were trash. I didn't even sell it because I knew I would feel bad so I just gave it to a friend who actually wanted it, didn't ask why.
@@tjm11015 Like PSA, their quality control has improved. When I first messed with one 15 years ago, it was about as bad as a Jennings/Jimenez/etc POS throwaway.
The over under Bond Arms derringer. I have the Back up. It is a 2 1/2" barrel chambered in .45 acp. The gun wants to jump out of your hands with every shot, no matter if you hold it with one hand or two. Also, the top barrel is pointed down, and the bottom barrel is pointed up. In theory, to reduce recoil. That being said, if the target is beyond the proper distance for the gun (3 ft is the correct distance), you will never hit anything. I found that 3 ft is the proper distance when I was at the range shooting paper. Because of the way the barrels are set, you have to find the "apex". Where the 2 bullets cross paths. Beyond 3 ft, the bottom barrel shoots high, and the top barrel shoots low. The thunderstruck. Because you are shooting both rounds at the same time, the percussion that comes out of the barrels when fired, knocks the trajectory of the rounds off. My understanding from a customer is that when you aim at a target with the sights, the reaction at the end of the barrels sends the rounds 4' to the left and 4' to the right. I guess that means if you have 3 guys in front of you, 2 of 3 are swatting at flies as the one in the middle is charging you uninterrupted.
I have 10 years service with the Royal Marines and 15 years service with Norway’s Jaegerkommandoen KostalMarinen with mountain and urban combat experience and finally wounded in 1992 in Central Europe by a sniper’s shot. That pen pistol thing looks like nothing so much as an accident waiting to happen and a good way to get hurt quickly if attacked by a dedicated aggressor. Horrible. For years, after recovering from my wound and moving to north Texas, I carry, for good or ill depending on people’s opinion, a Colt Python. It is slick as moose snot because of excellent design and engineering tolerances and I am used to it. You have a great channel. I just discovered you and subscribed. By the way, volley fire is pure foolishness. Lastly, in the field the last three years of my service in Central Europe I carried as a side arm a truly frightening firearm but it suited me for reasons I cannot calculate and I still have it to this day. It is a circa WWII Danish Machine Pistol (Homemade SMG related perhaps. I am not sure). It looks and feels like it was made by a mentally unstable, blind plumber out of scraps. When I show it to my gun owning friends it scares them a bit but I have great affection for it because it got me out of some tense situations all those years ago. Thanks for reading this.
You should look into the Tisas DS9 1911. It's a 2011 that comes in around $750-$800. I picked up the 4.25 inch model a couple of weeks ago and have about 300+ rounds of monarch 115gr 9mm through it with no malfunctions. Great gun so far, weird trigger though.
Not quite, there will be a lot of overlap with stuff like Derringers and those stupid LifeCard guns. I worked at a store that sold those, never sold a single one. Had a couple people ask about them, but once they saw the price tag, they changed their mind
I have the Taurus pt22 and it's awesome. It exists as an itch scratcher, I can walk out behind my house and run 4 magazines through it (I live in the country). It's great because in this day and age I'm not wanting to burn my real ammo through my real guns. Maybe you got a bad one or maybe I got the only good one but it's given me zero problems and I've ran boxes through it. I got it cheap from a friend who bought it new so it was never abused. I don't carry it though, that duty falls on something that starts with a G and ends with a 43.
9:15 Getting sent the gun from girsan and then shitting on it so massively. I gained a new level of respect for you, honesty over anything with your reviews.
That first Braverman contraption surely has mastered the "gray man theory": It'd blend in perfectly in any metalworking toolbox amongst all the quarter-inch extensions, drop oilers and automatic center punches.
If buying a handgun for home defence, I would suggest proven designs like Glocks or the M&P models, not just because they are built better, but because they've been tested against competitors and actually used in the field by police. That means: 1. It's reliable and 2. It's ubiquitous, so accesories are easy to come by. Using a firearm that's gimmicky means that accessories and spare parts are going to be harder to find than for widely used weapons. In fact, the reason your firearm isn't widely used is usually because it was inferior to alternatives during testing in some government bid. This is not to say firearms not used by law enforcement are inherently bad, a home defence scenario is different from a street shootout. Maybe you don't want to carry what the local police does because your threat model is different. That's fine, just remember that the more obscure the design, the harder it will be to find accessories and spare parts.
Not only is this guy just the most straight forward best gun reviewer I’ve found he’s also HILARIOUS! The Intratec safety comment had me bursting out laughing, caught me so off guard 😂 Bravo on this hilarious video Mr. Outlaw
Outlaw, I had a Tec 22 Scorpion 30+ years ago and never had a problem. Easy takedown/disassembly, too. The problem was because it had a threaded barrel/muzzle it became a felony to own in CA, no grandfather clause, either, so I had to sell it through a licensed dealer. Price new was right, around $106-110 dollars, too. I didn't know they started making them again. It came in a nice hard synthetic foam lined box with a magazine, which incidentally is a Ruger10/22 mag. Obviously, it wasn't something I'd carry, but never the less, I would've kept it. Keeping it vs. becoming a felon isn't wasn't a choice I'm up for. Maybe QC isn't what it used to be. The carry case was like carrying a Dremel tool, quite unnoticeable.
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1:02 Braverman Stinger Pen Gun
3:43 Taurus pt 22
5:23 Bond Arms Honey B
7:46 Girsan Witness 2311
9:54 Thunderstruck Volleyfire
13:06 Intratec Tec-22
16:51 Altor
Thank you, best comment today
Ty. Never heard of them so zero interest
How did P320 X-Carry not make that list.
@mdjak3686 they all suck
The Altor is the People's Republic of NJ's RecommendedApproved Citizens self Defense Pistol!!!! Thanks!
I’ll be honest, I think my fav videos from you are your “worst of” videos they are funny and informative to me who is pretty new to firearms and have definitely saved me some money
Hey Outlaw can you make a video about range belt set up, tips and tricks. I want to start buying gear but I'm not sure where to start.
I don’t think he would cause I’ve never seen him run a range belt at all. Which I actually like.
All of that stuff is a personal preference kinda of thing.
@@tommybenford9891he does use a range belt
You should check out uncle freedom. He does a lot of gear comparisons and makes great content.
Get a Kore belt
Proud Taurus G2C owner here… I’m glad it wasn’t on the list. It seems to catch a lot of hate online but everytime I use it the G2C works perfectly.
Same with mine.
I've been carrying mine for 6 years, shot thousands of rounds and never had a malfunction, full of pocket lint or not.
The g2c is more reliable than most people give it credit for it's better than a Ruger LCP
Used to have one and they are indeed reliable. For a budget gun you could definitely do worse but being that a canik isn’t much more expensive but far superior it’s not the best choice.
Have one as well, and bone-stock, it has been awesome. I did eventually upgrade it with Lakeline SS recoil springs and striker sleeve /springs. It is definitely my EDC with Hornady Crit. Def. rounds.
"we do it for you so, you don't have to"
your sacrifice is greatly appreciated 👍
Dude, I love how you seamlessly shout out your other “price point” videos at the end. You are my “go to” for research when I want to buy a new firearm.
USAF Zip 22 is probably one of the worst guns I've ever shot
USFA... Please don't blame the Air Force for that disastrous POS.
I’m surprised you were able to actually get it to shoot
@@SlaveKnightGael1579 Gun Jesus once got it to fire consecutive rounds. The Zip 22 promptly locked up so badly Ian had to disassemble it to render it safe.
@@benn454 I know, his videos are why I know about the Zip 22. That’s why I was surprised because for most of Ian’s video the gun refused to work
@@woodystube1000agreed. 21 year USAF veteran, we have our moments but not that bad!
That Tech 22 looks like something a famous smuggler would open carry in a belt holster while making the Kessel run on a starship in 14 parsecs.
It was 12 parsecs
Under 12 parsecs?
The Altor looks like a cross between a tire pressure gauge and a gas station butane lighter. 😂
You know what. It would have worked. If they made a linear compensator.
Hollowed out the handle to carry ammo. Give it actual sites.
Why have one?
To kill a suffering animal.
I could imagine someone blowing their nose off trying to light a cigarette with it.
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I heard of a Lady that shot herself she had a Asthma inhaler and a .22 handgun, both under her pillow 😢 and she grabbed the gun thinking it was the inhaler, and had a negligent discharge.
It looks like an electric hobby screwdriver/drill.
I really think it’s only designed to fire one shot. The last shot. If you know what I mean 🙁
Never thought I would enjoy gun trash talk. Man did you prove me wrong.
Totally agree with Chris, the pen gun should only be a collector's item, not a self-defense tool. Carrying it for protection could put the user in an even more dangerous situation!
I'm 62. I have my fathers S+W 1950's revolvers. One is target, one is the State Trooper 357 that Mass. asked for. The first 357 was S+W, it had a satin finish and the troops wanted a more basic,(and cheaper version), So S+W rebuilt it, gave it a WWII black finish like the brits used, beefed it up and sold it for less. Same source, High standard .22, W/ compensator and 2 barrel weights. Drive nails at 50 yards all day long. Sig Sauer 225, ( 1979 ish, barrel and lower stamped, "Made In West Germany". A Colt M 1911 issued in 1918, also the DOM is '18. Still qualify and carry. Run 180's instead of 230's. Just a smaller Volkswagen flying through the air. S+W .45 revolver, WWII army issue. Wasenfabrik Mauser 7.64mm Model 1910 pocket pistol, recovered from a German soldier. The last 3 were from the son of a WWII soldier who made the trip from Normandy to the battle of the bulge. My uncles WWII issue Berreta, he was on our side in Sicily as a partisan. Charter Arms Pitbull, daily carry. A Nebraska Centennial colt 45 in .22, Rossi .22 long barrel. 2 of Nono's S+W 5 shot crack open .38 shorts. Just sold 1 4" S+W .357, One 4 " S+W .44 mag, one 6" S+W .44, all SS. Bought during Obama high ammo price days, no -3's. Paid $1100.00 all 3 back then. Sold at $2650.00 There are more but I can't remember and don't want to go down stairs. The Moral here. Buy US known manufacturers only. Unless you can get an old Sig, don't buy a new one. All striker guns are garbage. When citizens came for purchase permits we ask, they all say Glock, Our answer is the police and military are trained to handle inexpensive HOLSTER ONLY striker guns. If you really like what the police have, drive a Ford Crown Vic for 20 years.
The craziest thing about the Bond Arms derringers is they have the balls to charge $5-600 for them.
Because they're novelty items for bored rich collectors.
Got mine for $100 chambered in 38 special
Not meant for defense...
I like mine. 45LC AND 410
@@ThomasSimmons-j9l they do work.
This was actually ENORMOUSLY entertaining.... except for that Girsan... because if I'd bought that for some reason I'd actually be seriously pissed off... but the rest, hysterical.
A list of the Best Budget 1911/2011 would be nice.
Thought he already did that. There aren't many options. Cheapest is prob the Springfield, then the new platypus. Both are under $1500, that is if you mean 1911 double stack. If you just want an old school 1911 single stack there are plenty of options.
As far as I know, the LiveFreeArmory Apollo 11 at $979 is the only sub $1000 Dbl stack 1911 that has received positive reviews. HO and PV both liked it. Not sure if either one has put 1000 rounds through one yet.
RIA 1911 Ultra FS HC is your go to
APOLLO 11, there's your list.
Tisas BR9, MAC 1911 DS, RIA Ultra, LFA Apollo 11.
For the money, the MAC 1911 DS is hands down the best at its price point, considering, it comes with a bull barrel, RMR footprint for optic mounting, and no MIM parts unlike the $1500 SA Prodigy (LOL). All for $800 too.
15yrs ago I bought my ex wife the Taurus pt-22. It’s the only thing I let her keep 😂
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Good call....i like the Taurus G series but that pt 22 is hot garbage, bought one, couldnt get a mag to fire without 3-4 hang ups.
@@gaylenstone9329 I have at least a half dozen Taurus pistols. My edc is a GX4. I have zero issues with them. I’ve only shot 1 other gun worse than the pt-22 and that was a Jimenez arms nickel plated .22 I picked up for $30. It’s literally a single shot cuz it will never load a 2nd round 😂
@@gaylenstone9329 btw this piece of shit she had to have because it was chrome with pink grips and gold accents. It was the most disgusting thing I’ve ever seen.
I still have my taurus millenium pt 111 pro. Its still pretty reliable.
Amazing how some of these are actually still available. 🤦🏻♂️
I had an Intratec Tec-22, and I had the exact opposite experience with it. It was the second gun that I bought. The first was a Davis .380. I never had a failure to feed to or not firing at all. I absolutely loved that gun. Only ammo it couldn't run was CCI Shot shells.
“Like Lizzo at a fuckin buffet” lmmfao 🤣🤣🤣 I’m dead 🤣
What? No Zip 22 or Heizer on the list?
Lucky for him, most of the communitah doesnt know who he is or the Lizzo-Stans would be clamoring for "cancel" 🤣🤣
I nearly spit out my tea laughing…😂
Pre lipo lizzo
With Lizzo losing weight, gotta get the jokes in while we can
I must have gotten the only working Taurus PT22 in existence. I've had it for probably 10 years and it runs every high velocity 22LR round I've tried. Mine is accurate and I love it. I also found it useful in easing my wife into a more serious carry gun.
I'm not real fond of mine but it isn't near as bad as he makes it out to be.
I can usually get several rounds off in mine... Usually rounds 7-2 if I don't load it full ... Sometimes it will make it through a mag
I mostly just hate the fat profile of it, and you can't put slimmer grips on it. Shame, it'd be a good pocket gun otherwise. Haven't shot it a lot but it always functioned fine.
It’s funny, Taurus JUST came out with, what looks like a replacement for the PT-22, something they’re calling the 22 Tuc. 9+1 of 22lr WITH a tip up barrel.
I got the p22 last year and it worked fine until it didn't. And it started shooting itself apart like his did. I used it for a snake charmer though underneath houses because it would atleast shoot the first shot lol
And all the Posters who get it free for first try say it's wonderful, now we have to wait for those who actually paid for one to post a review. Just like the S&W Bodyguard 2.0 now I see people who paid for one doing reviews and guess what they are having problems!! shocker.
@@TheJHMAN1 Exactly. Just give it a moment before you rush right out and buy one…😉
Everyone said the p265 was junk.
@@robertfandel9442because it is
Chris, I watch so many of your videos and I must say this. You are without any question in my mind the Most Trusted and greatest guy I can watch. Great personality, spot on instructions and point to point coverage. I thank you because you have been the reason I've purchased so many more guns. Your wife is the best too. I enjoy every second of your videos and wonder what the next firearm purchase will be?
Thanks .
wow thanks so much for this, genuinely makes my day
My favorite gun channel.Thank you for your work.
My favorite work channel. Thank you for your gun.
By far most entertaining and useful at the same time
The Intratec Tec 22 is actually just the VZ61 Skorpion "we have at home". Same charging "handle", same magazine placement, etc. Except the Skorpion actually worked, was in a centefire caliber, and was full auto.
It would cost him literally $10 to ship it back for RMA.
''You will feel like J. Bond, but not like P. Brosnan Bond from Goldeneye, who can hit everything. More like Skyfall Bond, who can't hit anything..."
I approve the Daniel Craig Bond slander!
Hey, the Skyfall 007 did eventually get his shit together in the end...
@@BNE_STARi think daniel craig was a great bond but he wasn’t at his best in that one
On the Altor, you have to pull the trigger back partially to engage the crossbolt safety. It essentially just blocks the trigger from springing back forward. I have one, and it took me forever to figure it out. That thing sucks so hard, lol.
I have a theory that it's supposed to be a concept gun, like the clothes in a fashion show. You're never supposed to ACTUALLY use it, it was more a challenge to see how many unique features you could fit on one. Plus if you're ever desperate enough to actually use it, sounds like there's a good chance it'll be more of a grenade than a gun.
That gun makes a Jennings J22 look like a military sidearm. That altor goes straight to the gun buy back. It is a trash gun, i'd rather have a Filipino homemade slamfire shotgun for home defense than that shit. I love all guns even Saturday night specials but that thing is cursed.
I think with derringers, you're supposed to hold it by the barrels and flip the frame around. Easier to load because you're holding the part you put the rounds into, and you're in control of where the barrels are pointing the entire time.
2:14 “Hold on bad guy; you’re in BIG trouble once I get this thing working”.
The Taurus G2C is awesome if you buy all the Lakeline interior parts! Actually, even before it had no issues, but with replacing the factory plastic with stainless guide rod and springs and striker / springs, all very cheap! Especially if you polish the feed ramp and slide etc., it hasn't failed to do anything... I think it was $203 bucks back then! She would have paid $403 knowing what we know now! I loved the first edition Taurus 24/7! Turned 2 of my GLOCK buddies into 24/7 fans back in those days! But to each their own! Sometimes all it takes is a little polishing and basic TLC to make something work flawless! I agree, it should be flawless when you buy it, like a new car, but for 1/4 of the price I don't mind a little polishing!
My wife and I both own one. Thousands of rounds between them and not a single malfunction and totally stock. Only issues I've had is the rear sight broke on mine and the front sight fell off on hers. Other than that, just as reliable as my Glock and my S&W.
I want my Knob Polished
Same with my gc3, it's fine out of the box, but a workhorse with lakeline parts.
Ditto here. Lakeline SS pin bushing and pin only. Never a problem and a good CCW carry gun. $218 out the door in 2021. Mags for the G3C will also fit if you want more rounds.
7:51 "… which I jumped on like Lizzo at a f-ing buffet." savage, purely savage
He woke up and chose violence when reviewing the Girsan 2311, he took that shit personally
That was a good joke 😂
I came to the comments specifically for this line.
Surprised no USFA zip .22. I've always heard is a worst of all time gun.
He's never shot one probably.
Thankfully I don’t think they are available anymore.
That was my recommendation, . I seen a used one in a local gun shop a few years ago and actually considered it briefly just to be able to say " I own the worst " lol.
Altos looks like the torch they use when they bring out creme brulee to your table
My Taurus PT22 Poly worked great for me. Reliable with most brands of 22. It was wide so didn't carry it. Sold it to a friend that wanted it.
Have been very happy with mine, as well.
My Ruger LCP22 is temperamental.
My PT runs fine, when loaded 7 rds in mag.
It runs 100% on CCI ammo.
@@electrochubb my PT22 liked Stingers a lot. But it ran almost everything
I love your brutal honesty about what you test drive. Especially at time 6:35😅😂😅, I concur with your assessment on derringers😊
I remember the old Jennings and Davis semi autos were junk and I know because I still haveva J22 that shot itself apart. Looked cool though.
Hey I have one of those with a missing firing pin spring cap.
Mine is missing the extractor, pin, spring and maybe other stuff. Haven't looked at it in years, still in its box w/papers though
I could not stop laughing. Never heard of these guns...thank you for the video.😂😂😂
I like how you mentioned the fact that .380 isnt a very good carry caliber. I am a firearm salesman and i do my very level best to make sure that whoever comes to my counter knows as much as they need too to be safe and know they are safe. I have a thing i call seasonal firearms separation. I never really ever recommend a .380acp as a "good" option considering there are so many variations of 9mm that are fantastic for small frame people like critical defense lite and the g9 ehp bullets and other very light 60 to 65 grain external hollowpoint bullets that have basically zero recoil or very minimal recoil but are also screaming out the barrel. I put .380acp in the summer or hot month category, it can penetrate summer time clothing with no problem but winter time it would have a hard time doing body damage when it has to go through multiple layers of denim, a carhartt jacket or something very thick woven material. I walked into a local competitor of ours' gun counters and the guy there tried to tell me that 380 and 9mm were pretty much identical because they have similar case height and are the same .355 bullet. I then schooled him on a little thing called case pressure ane how 9mm has almost twice the case pressure of .380 and if they were the same as far as energy then why wont a .380 eject when shot from a 9mm? He shut up pretty quickly and said im going on lunch. A person like that should not be behind a gun counter, especially when its getting cold around where we are at and if hes telling a woman that isnt sure that a 380 is just as capable as a 9mm he should be fired.
Girsan is a dumpster fire from the poor build quality all the way to the worst post sale support in the industry. I fixed mine and sold it for less than half price new.
I have a Springfield Armory 1911A1 and it is a great gun. It shoots good and is accurate too.
Same here the garrison.45.
The fact that somebody made a holster for the Intrarec blows my mind 😂
I doubt it was designed for that thing
16:34 I have a C-9. With proper maintenance they are super reliable. I've put 1000's of rounds through mine with zero failures. It won't work with Steel Case though. As a bonus, I grabbed the T995 9mm Carbine and the mags are interchangeable between the pistol and the rifle. My C-9 is something that if (God forbid) I had to use in a life or death situation, I wouldn't question for a microsecond if it was going to work. The weight and the blowback really suck and, God knows she's ugly but I would have no issues with my life depending on it. Plus, at sub 200 prices, it's affordable enough that anybody should be able to have one for self defense. Thanks for not trashing it like a lot of other people do. My thoughts are that if I pull the "Boom Switch" and a piece of metal comes out the other end then, it's a good gun.
And I thought the worst thing I shot was the SCCY CPX! Man, they LOOK like they suck!
Usain Bolt must be their quality control guy at SCCY.
They do! One of the worst triggers ever!
The Altor is really an updated zip gun. Most of those used an appropriate section of a car radio antenna for a barrel, a rubber band release to fire, and shot a 22 short (cheap) or 22lr (upscale). It's great to see 1950s juvenile delinquent tech updated to 9mm.
I have had 2 Girsans and they only seem to like HOT ammo; Had a 45 commander -7lb trigger pull-unless it was +P it had minute of hillside accuracy - went to Tisas. Also have a MC P35 - range toy BUT it loves 124gt +p standard velocity nope
On the intertec did you try actual Ruger 10/22 mags? The ones that come with it will even jam a 10/22 like that - I know. Still would not carry it, but if it functions it is like a Hillbilly Skorpion range toy
As for worse guns Raven and Phoenix arms comes to mind
I think the feed ramp is the problem with the Tec22. My buddy had one, and it was nothing but the same issues bending rounds while chambering.
So happy the Tec-22 is mentioned, got mine from grandpa and have dumped at least $500 in parts trying to get it to run right, has never dumped one mag without jamming, but I love it
Great video, respect sir
Bond Arms derringers are built like tanks, but I agree that the Honey-B in .22lr is not a good carry because of the small caliber.
The best video I've watched this Sunday. Thank you Outlaws.
Great reviews, thanks. I had the PT-22 a number of years ago. It was really bad.
Remington R51. My Dad bought one because it was a “Remington” and I didn’t have the heart to tell him. The language that came from that god fearing man was hilarious hahaha
Definitely.
Dude, got my license and very first gun today, thanks for all the amazing info you give out!
This is the most hilarious review I've seen you do😂😂😂 I loved it!!!
A Girsan makes you appreciate how reliable and a good deal a Hi-Point is.
How about the one I found in the brush at a rest stop? Nice pistol, still had half a magazine of ammo.
Should i not carry that one?
Probably not
As long as you don’t mind getting caught with it and it being connected to a murder..
Proud Bersa Thunder 380 and UC owner here, glad to see Bersa isn’t on this list, they catch a lot of unnecessary hate.
Fair firearm, would carry if arthritis or a woman.
I have the older metal PT22 and it’s much more reliable than the poly one.
I have a standard Bond Arms with a stubby 9mm barrel, and a 3 1/2" .410/.45 LC barrel. I echo everything you say here. Its a neat item for the collection, but far better options for carry. Like a J Frame...an LCP Max or BodyGuard 2.0, or even a Kel-Tec P32. I don't have personal experience with the following, but if you do a "Part 2" to this, how about a LifeCard, or a NAA Pug (or something similar)?
I have Lorcin L380. That is a piece of junk. I paid $100, 25 yrs ago. A waste of good money. It sits in my safe.
That would be my vote for the worst I have ever seen personally. They are junk.
TY. That was fun. FWIW, I owned an older Taurus PT22 that was well-made and reliable. I still have a Beretta 21A. Couldn't/can't hit anything with either one.
My dad had a Bond Arms 38/.357 derringer. He wanted it so bad because it was made in Texas. Well, it was awful. The bottom barrel keyholes everything except snake-shot, (which is the only thing I would ever tun through it), it’s heavy and unwieldy. Strictly a novelty.
Buddy of mine had the .410. Worst trigger I’ve ever seen on a firearm. Everyone who shot it ended up hitting the ground 20 feet in front of them. I’d rather have a knife. Imo.
@@erroneous6947 I’ve got snakeslayer. Why? I don’t know. I can’t hit anything from 5 yards away. Its recoil is brutal.basically a 10ft and under gun.
This is an awesome video! I love how straight forward and to the point you are. I love your descriptions of these pathetic do not carry guns. 👍🏻👍🏻
Interesting about the Taurus PT22 being so bad.. 5 or 6 years ago I bought one of the older models that are sort of gold colored with wooden grips and I don't recall it ever malfunctioning with all the cheap bulk pack ammo I always shoot.. Maybe I just got lucky with mine.😁
Same. I had an older silver model, and it ran fine as long as the 22 ammo was good. I also had a PT25 that was much more reliable because centerfire > rimfire.
The pt-22 poly usually works really well with 40 grain Cci minimags. If it's been cleaned it'll run decent with regular 40 grain bullets. Haven't had any problem with mine.
Taurus just updated the PT22 with the Taurus TUC in 22lr.
I used to own an IntraTec Tec-22. The problem with mine wasn't the gun itself, but rather the 30-round magazine it came with. I also got a Ramline 50-rounder for a Ruger 10-22 with it when I bought it, because the salesman was honest about how poorly the stock mag performed. With the Ramline mag that thing worked flawlessly, and the only reliability issues were the typical rimfire-related failure-to-fire. Everything went well until the magazine started to wear out after thousands of rounds and I couldn't replace it with anything other than a 10-round Ruger 10-22 mag thanks to the Brady Bill being in effect. So it came to pass that I sold it off.
Surprised that you didn't mention the USFA zip 22
Nice video! One of my first gun purchases was the Taurus G3, as an older guy new to the world of guns. I thought it was ok, until I got my hands on a S&W, Sig Sauer, Ruger and even a Kimber semi-auto. At that point I felt like the Taurus was the 1985 Ford Escort of my Rolls Royce fleet and hated even looking at it. What a rattle box! I literally gave it to my dad for a cheap ass travel pistol........never again with Taurus
I feel good that I haven’t heard of any of these!
This guy be making like the same two dozen videos over and over again and brothers, I am here for it.
"Like I jumped on like Lizzo in a fuckin buffet" you're fuckin unhinged and I love it.
Chris- thank you! I had a stressful day but your video was a JOY to watch. Probably the funniest thing I’ve seen and I totally enjoyed it. Great stuff!
Great review of not great guns.
It's called the Altor because Zip Gun was taken. Is there an Altor prison somewhere?
7 Pistols that I would never carry:
1: An 800lb pistol. It would just be too heavy
2: In the same vein, a 25ft long pistol. Very difficult to carry and transport in a car.
3. A pistol that has poop on it. That would just be icky.
4. A pistol that didn't save itself until marriage. I can't be shooting a pistol that I know some other guy had shot before me.
5. A pistol that doesn't work. I need a check stub for verification, no welfare, no unemployment.
6. A pistol with a flat earth finish. (It knows what it did, I don't have to explain myself to you, it does)
7. A Kel-Tec.
I was waiting for you to put that Hi-Pointless 9 up on this list, but you ended up recommending it instead 😂
they're crap, but they're mostly reliable crap, and sturdy AF. and once your out of ammo, they double as a heavy throwing object.
@@kenabi I have a lifelong hatred for strikerfire pistols because of that piece of carpet beater!! I bought one when I was like 14 and it was brand new and still the firing pin didn't work half time and when it did it didn't eject the shell another 50% of the time, the trigger was trash, the clips were trash. I didn't even sell it because I knew I would feel bad so I just gave it to a friend who actually wanted it, didn't ask why.
@@tjm11015 Like PSA, their quality control has improved. When I first messed with one 15 years ago, it was about as bad as a Jennings/Jimenez/etc POS throwaway.
The over under Bond Arms derringer. I have the Back up. It is a 2 1/2" barrel chambered in .45 acp. The gun wants to jump out of your hands with every shot, no matter if you hold it with one hand or two. Also, the top barrel is pointed down, and the bottom barrel is pointed up. In theory, to reduce recoil. That being said, if the target is beyond the proper distance for the gun (3 ft is the correct distance), you will never hit anything. I found that 3 ft is the proper distance when I was at the range shooting paper. Because of the way the barrels are set, you have to find the "apex". Where the 2 bullets cross paths. Beyond 3 ft, the bottom barrel shoots high, and the top barrel shoots low.
The thunderstruck. Because you are shooting both rounds at the same time, the percussion that comes out of the barrels when fired, knocks the trajectory of the rounds off. My understanding from a customer is that when you aim at a target with the sights, the reaction at the end of the barrels sends the rounds 4' to the left and 4' to the right. I guess that means if you have 3 guys in front of you, 2 of 3 are swatting at flies as the one in the middle is charging you uninterrupted.
so the takeaway is.... "you weren't already carrying a .22, but here's a list of things you wouldn't carry already"
Yup 😂
The design Taurus “copied” actually originated as a beretta 950 jet fire was a 25acp and extremely reliable
I literally GAVE my girsan 1911 away even after having the ramp polished.......
I have 10 years service with the Royal Marines and 15 years service with Norway’s Jaegerkommandoen KostalMarinen with mountain and urban combat experience and finally wounded in 1992 in Central Europe by a sniper’s shot. That pen pistol thing looks like nothing so much as an accident waiting to happen and a good way to get hurt quickly if attacked by a dedicated aggressor. Horrible. For years, after recovering from my wound and moving to north Texas, I carry, for good or ill depending on people’s opinion, a Colt Python. It is slick as moose snot because of excellent design and engineering tolerances and I am used to it. You have a great channel. I just discovered you and subscribed. By the way, volley fire is pure foolishness. Lastly, in the field the last three years of my service in Central Europe I carried as a side arm a truly frightening firearm but it suited me for reasons I cannot calculate and I still have it to this day. It is a circa WWII Danish Machine Pistol (Homemade SMG related perhaps. I am not sure). It looks and feels like it was made by a mentally unstable, blind plumber out of scraps. When I show it to my gun owning friends it scares them a bit but I have great affection for it because it got me out of some tense situations all those years ago. Thanks for reading this.
You should look into the Tisas DS9 1911. It's a 2011 that comes in around $750-$800. I picked up the 4.25 inch model a couple of weeks ago and have about 300+ rounds of monarch 115gr 9mm through it with no malfunctions. Great gun so far, weird trigger though.
Ask 100 people to list 7 guns they would never carry. You will get 700 different guns.
Not quite, there will be a lot of overlap with stuff like Derringers and those stupid LifeCard guns. I worked at a store that sold those, never sold a single one. Had a couple people ask about them, but once they saw the price tag, they changed their mind
You are the ultimate in cool. Down to earth, honest commentary, tell it like it is. Your vids are great.
Thank you for an excellent worst gun video
I have the Taurus pt22 and it's awesome. It exists as an itch scratcher, I can walk out behind my house and run 4 magazines through it (I live in the country). It's great because in this day and age I'm not wanting to burn my real ammo through my real guns. Maybe you got a bad one or maybe I got the only good one but it's given me zero problems and I've ran boxes through it. I got it cheap from a friend who bought it new so it was never abused. I don't carry it though, that duty falls on something that starts with a G and ends with a 43.
OMG....LOL, don't hold back ....tell us how you really feel......😂😂😂
I had a Beretta Minx in 22 short. It was the least reliable gun I’ve owned but it looked cool. Sold it.
I rather have a umbrella firearm then a pen gun
9:15 Getting sent the gun from girsan and then shitting on it so massively. I gained a new level of respect for you, honesty over anything with your reviews.
I better not see any of the guns that i have on this list....
Best gun channel there is if you want a real education on guns you NEED to own.
Greetings from Russia. My “like” is the first today. 😊
That first Braverman contraption surely has mastered the "gray man theory":
It'd blend in perfectly in any metalworking toolbox amongst all the quarter-inch extensions, drop oilers and automatic center punches.
Not Lizzo at the buffet 😂😂😂
If buying a handgun for home defence, I would suggest proven designs like Glocks or the M&P models, not just because they are built better, but because they've been tested against competitors and actually used in the field by police. That means: 1. It's reliable and 2. It's ubiquitous, so accesories are easy to come by. Using a firearm that's gimmicky means that accessories and spare parts are going to be harder to find than for widely used weapons.
In fact, the reason your firearm isn't widely used is usually because it was inferior to alternatives during testing in some government bid. This is not to say firearms not used by law enforcement are inherently bad, a home defence scenario is different from a street shootout. Maybe you don't want to carry what the local police does because your threat model is different. That's fine, just remember that the more obscure the design, the harder it will be to find accessories and spare parts.
Bond Arms Cyclops in 45-70. It's the Honey B in a caliber guaranteed to destroy your wrist.😅😅😅😅
Not only is this guy just the most straight forward best gun reviewer I’ve found he’s also HILARIOUS! The Intratec safety comment had me bursting out laughing, caught me so off guard 😂 Bravo on this hilarious video Mr. Outlaw
Yeaaa I will stick with my S&W M&P metal or my cz p10S for carry
Outlaw, I had a Tec 22 Scorpion 30+ years ago and never had a problem. Easy takedown/disassembly, too. The problem was because it had a threaded barrel/muzzle it became a felony to own in CA, no grandfather clause, either, so I had to sell it through a licensed dealer. Price new was right, around $106-110 dollars, too.
I didn't know they started making them again. It came in a nice hard synthetic foam lined box with a magazine,
which incidentally is a Ruger10/22 mag. Obviously, it wasn't something I'd carry, but never the less, I would've kept it.
Keeping it vs. becoming a felon isn't wasn't a choice I'm up for. Maybe QC isn't what it used to be. The carry case was like carrying a Dremel tool, quite unnoticeable.
The one liners in this video are too many to list. 🤣😂🤣
Carried a Walther TPH with CCI Stingers since 1996. Bought two extra magazines for it a year later. I'd say it is a 10-15 foot firearm.