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What a great man and a great interview, digging a bit deeper into the creative processes and tensions within the band. Mr. Hackett is a supreme class act!
Hackett brought so much more than just guitar to Genesis. Balance. His creative ideas were sorely missed after leaving. Love his recount of 'The Waiting Room' as a throw back to his audition and Peter's comment about the free jazz not being part of their concept. It took me some time to appreciate that piece, but it IS open jazz and adds spice to mix. At the end all the strange sounds come together to make something musical/understandable out of the chaos (which is at the core of The Lamb's message). Steve's guitar is subtle throughout The Lamb but it is profoundly beautiful and welcome. The album truly has that mix of sweet and harsh, lush and sparse that elevates the whole thing. A masterpiece truly.
LOVE the Crimea reference. But these guys were so well matched....intellectually, musically and even philosophically. Phil and Steve seemed to work so well together. Both were great at transitions and orchestrations; incorporating jazz, classical influences, fusion elements. The French impressionist classical influence in 'Firth' is so relevant (and NOT pretentious at all). Such a wonderful piece. Majestic. Without the class of egos, Genesis could have been mediocre. Each musician made the others better, even if it was painful for them at the time!
Nice to see someone who can talk at length, and explain himself eloquently without saying “like” every other word, as most people seem to do nowadays. Excellent concert at the palladium a few weeks ago btw.
Steve made an interesting observation/comment about the band's music in the early press interviews about the new Lamb project, when the press called it Rock-Opera and lumped it in other double album concept pieces. Steve said Genesis music is more accurately described as "pageant" because it has undeniable medieval influence and sound. Before that music was called Prog, during the late 60s in the states the new FM, album-playing rock stations were called "progressive stations"..differentiating them from AM top hits format. Another interesting element from the band's early days (w Steve), considering how Steve seems to be downplayed or left out of the band story after he leaves (Tony, Peter, Phil and Mike have all made comments diminishing Steve's role in the band), is how often the British press mentioned the playing of Steve and Tony--together, either their sounds so were so close, or their playing was so tight together, or inventive.....Steve is often singled out as the sound wizard sitting off to the side making magic. Recently, a podcast (the guy from the Musical Box) mentioned to Tony that the isolated tracks of early Genesis songs revealed Steve playing parts that were thought to be Tony and vice versa, and Tony mentioned how he and Steve loved to create sounds. So, did Steve hurt feelings by leaving?! He was a bigger influence on the band than the band seems capable of admitting. It seems it was even Steve who convinced Tony to get the mellotron from King Crimson.
I think thats why Tony pushed his stuff on Lamb, because he didn't get quite as much input on Selling England. Keyboardists and guitarists are often known to not be sympatico, and Steve was as accomplished a musician as Tony, and had written the 'hit song' as well a lot of Moonlit Knight. The same kind of nature had Peter basically waiting til music was done and on Epping Forest, there is NO solos for Tony or anybody else. So like he says, this was a real battle of wills.
Hackett was Genesis! they talk about the Gabriel era and the Collins era. What about the Hackett era?. Steve played on as many albums as Peter, more if you include the live albums. When Peter left the music essentially remained the same. When Steve left the music suffered. Rutherford is not in the same league and as much as it pains me to say it they should have found a replacement who was of the same stature as steve but hey!, one less member more profit for the rest. It is Steve who continues to keep the Genesis flame burning with his live shows and consistent output. I really hope Banks, Rutherford, Collins, Stuermer and Collins have a successful outing with there last domino tour but with a frontman who is confined to chair, who can no longer sing or drum then I'm afraid it may turn out to be like watching Muhammad Ali's last fight. I just hope phil survives it, we've already lost one iconic drummer this year.
The Musical Box is playing in my city in a month. They've been around LONGER than Genesis, and probably made more money off that music than Genesis did. I don't think the music 'suffered' so much as changed. I loved the Genesis album in 1983. And virtually NO bands from the seventies kept doing music like they were in the seventies, certainly not the lyrics. I don't think the endless bitching about band members makes much sense, its ancient history. Its always pretty much said Tony Banks was Genesis, for both good and bad. Its probably too bad he left, but HE left. I think Peters stuff would have benefitted from teh band format, ditto Tony's solo stuff. But it didn'thappen so there's no point in carrying that too far.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Marillion was fairly marginal until they had a pop hit. Genesis suffered from having too many pop hits, but they did have other music, some of it in a similar vein to Marillion. And I remember the keyboardist for marillion saying that he couldn't play keys on later albums like he did on the first ones, because the audience had just changed too much. But I'd even rank Marillion up there with Genesis. Not quite as eclectic, but in the eighties those were phenomenal albums, still amonst my favourite.
Because the Gabriel era and the collins era over lap with the Hackett era so people are fixated on Pete leaving and Phil singing but my favourite albums are Foxtrot-Wind and Wuthering
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Saw Steve with Genesis 77 Winterland..Fantastique
What a wonderful interview. It's impossible not to admire this amazing man.
What a great man and a great interview, digging a bit deeper into the creative processes and tensions within the band. Mr. Hackett is a supreme class act!
Hackett brought so much more than just guitar to Genesis.
Balance. His creative ideas were sorely missed after leaving. Love his recount of 'The Waiting Room' as a throw back to his audition and Peter's comment about the free jazz not being part of their concept. It took me some time to appreciate that piece, but it IS open jazz and adds spice to mix. At the end all the strange sounds come together to make something musical/understandable out of the chaos (which is at the core of The Lamb's message). Steve's guitar is subtle throughout The Lamb but it is profoundly beautiful and welcome. The album truly has that mix of sweet and harsh, lush and sparse that elevates the whole thing. A masterpiece truly.
Fantastic. One of the greats.
The one and only carrying the Genesis Banner. Keep up the good work
The Musical Box is coming to my city in a month.
LOVE the Crimea reference.
But these guys were so well matched....intellectually, musically and even philosophically. Phil and Steve seemed to work so well together. Both were great at transitions and orchestrations; incorporating jazz, classical influences, fusion elements. The French impressionist classical influence in 'Firth' is so relevant (and NOT pretentious at all). Such a wonderful piece. Majestic. Without the class of egos, Genesis could have been mediocre. Each musician made the others better, even if it was painful for them at the time!
Hackett is Guitar God.
The best guitarist ever to play in Genesis.
Nice to see someone who can talk at length, and explain himself eloquently without saying “like” every other word, as most people seem to do nowadays.
Excellent concert at the palladium a few weeks ago btw.
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No.. he goes.. "ahhhhh" .. "ahhhh"
Steve made an interesting observation/comment about the band's music in the early press interviews about the new Lamb project, when the press called it Rock-Opera and lumped it in other double album concept pieces. Steve said Genesis music is more accurately described as "pageant" because it has undeniable medieval influence and sound. Before that music was called Prog, during the late 60s in the states the new FM, album-playing rock stations were called "progressive stations"..differentiating them from AM top hits format. Another interesting element from the band's early days (w Steve), considering how Steve seems to be downplayed or left out of the band story after he leaves (Tony, Peter, Phil and Mike have all made comments diminishing Steve's role in the band), is how often the British press mentioned the playing of Steve and Tony--together, either their sounds so were so close, or their playing was so tight together, or inventive.....Steve is often singled out as the sound wizard sitting off to the side making magic. Recently, a podcast (the guy from the Musical Box) mentioned to Tony that the isolated tracks of early Genesis songs revealed Steve playing parts that were thought to be Tony and vice versa, and Tony mentioned how he and Steve loved to create sounds. So, did Steve hurt feelings by leaving?! He was a bigger influence on the band than the band seems capable of admitting. It seems it was even Steve who convinced Tony to get the mellotron from King Crimson.
I think thats why Tony pushed his stuff on Lamb, because he didn't get quite as much input on Selling England. Keyboardists and guitarists are often known to not be sympatico, and Steve was as accomplished a musician as Tony, and had written the 'hit song' as well a lot of Moonlit Knight. The same kind of nature had Peter basically waiting til music was done and on Epping Forest, there is NO solos for Tony or anybody else. So like he says, this was a real battle of wills.
Hackett was Genesis! they talk about the Gabriel era and the Collins era. What about the Hackett era?. Steve played on as many albums as Peter, more if you include the live albums. When Peter left the music essentially remained the same. When Steve left the music suffered. Rutherford is not in the same league and as much as it pains me to say it they should have found a replacement who was of the same stature as steve but hey!, one less member more profit for the rest. It is Steve who continues to keep the Genesis flame burning with his live shows and consistent output. I really hope Banks, Rutherford, Collins, Stuermer and Collins have a successful outing with there last domino tour but with a frontman who is confined to chair, who can no longer sing or drum then I'm afraid it may turn out to be like watching Muhammad Ali's last fight. I just hope phil survives it, we've already lost one iconic drummer this year.
The Musical Box is playing in my city in a month. They've been around LONGER than Genesis, and probably made more money off that music than Genesis did. I don't think the music 'suffered' so much as changed. I loved the Genesis album in 1983. And virtually NO bands from the seventies kept doing music like they were in the seventies, certainly not the lyrics. I don't think the endless bitching about band members makes much sense, its ancient history. Its always pretty much said Tony Banks was Genesis, for both good and bad. Its probably too bad he left, but HE left. I think Peters stuff would have benefitted from teh band format, ditto Tony's solo stuff. But it didn'thappen so there's no point in carrying that too far.
@@mikearchibald744 There was still an audience for it. Marillion and IQ filled that void in the 80s where Genesis went Popcrap.
@@dr.feelgoodmalusphillips2475 Marillion was fairly marginal until they had a pop hit. Genesis suffered from having too many pop hits, but they did have other music, some of it in a similar vein to Marillion. And I remember the keyboardist for marillion saying that he couldn't play keys on later albums like he did on the first ones, because the audience had just changed too much.
But I'd even rank Marillion up there with Genesis. Not quite as eclectic, but in the eighties those were phenomenal albums, still amonst my favourite.
Because the Gabriel era and the collins era over lap with the Hackett era so people are fixated on Pete leaving and Phil singing but my favourite albums are Foxtrot-Wind and Wuthering
When Steve Hackett left
The magic left
and then their were three was a mixed bag
Steve needed 4 musicians to create his sound and not the other way around.
You can say that again 👍👍
Steve is a good guitarist whose most creative period was as a member of Genesis. However, I don't care much for his solo work or 'chippy' attitude.
Fascinating
His solo work can be an acquired taste , I really like some, but not all, of it.
However, I see nothing “chippy” about his attitude here.