@@RTSchofieldGigabyte gaming OC for me. Was going to get the windforce v2, but the price went up 100 dollars, while dropping 100 dollars on the Gaming OC. Even came with Alan Wake 2!
I have the same 4090 card with a 13900K CPU and get 100+ FPS with PMDG 777 and payware airports. 42" 4K TV also. Sometime it goes down to 70-80 for a few moments. But this is clearly an awesome set up to run MSFS.
I have exactly your GPU and CPU with a monitor samsung odissey curve 49". Unfortunately I dont have your extrtraordinary performance. In challenge scenary my fps is below 30. I spent a lot of money and I'm very disppointed. Could you give some set up suggestion to improve my performance. Many thanks for your help
I just got mine today. Upgraded from a 3090ti to the 4090 and with DLSS and AI frame generation and DX12 beta in settings, it’s insane! It’s a good year to be a flight simmer!!
I picked up my new 13900k and 4090 rig last week. Mind blown lol Spent a couple of hours seeing what fps I was getting in Ultra 1440p and then basically gave up looking at it!
@@stevephla so it was massive in gains. The 4090 is a juggernaut of a powerhouse but, I had a 12 gen i9-12900k CPU. I had to buy a 13 gen i9-13900k because the 12 gen was too weak for the card and it was bottle necking the CPU, now the CPU is too powerful for the 4090 which is which is what you want so that the card can perform at its best. In MSFS graphic settings I have it set to DX12 beta with TAA and AI regeneration turned on. You could have it set to DLSS but TAA makes it more crisp and not as blurry as DLSS but DLSS is still good don’t get me wrong. On the ground I’m running 80 FPS on all max ultra settings with PMDG aircraft, 4k monitor, except terrain LOD is at 300 , I can do it at 400 but 300 I like how it looks, I even saw a video on 100 and it still looks fantastic I even tried it and with like 90% of MSFS traffic on like airport vehicles, planes both GA and it liners, vehicles on roads, fauna, boats etc ( this is default MSFS traffic I can just imagine if I got the new traffic Add ons like just flight traffic or FSTL, either way, the PC is powerful enough to run it all so you don’t gotta worry about if you should get this add on or not due to performance, it will run it amazingly) with heavy airports like inibuild KLAX and KSAT, flightbeam, fly Tampa, KEWR, KBOS you name it I got it. In the air I’m around 120-130 fps but I locked the sim to 60 fps butter smooth in nvidia panel. Now, with the 12 gen 12900k and the 3090ti, I had everything maxed ultra with about 50% traffic but I had it locked at 30 fps and terrain LOD at 350 and it was smooth as butter again with the payware airports etc. Now I upgraded because it’s truly some\thing else to experience any flight sim at 60fps locked or unlocked for that matter at such high FPS with beautiful ultra maxed settings 95%. The CPU I have with the 4090 is powerful, like it’s unbelievable. In short, yes, I highly recommend you get it. You won’t regret it and it’s worth every penny. These are my specs and everything named below is about 9 months old except the CPU and the GPU 12th Gen i9-12900k upgrade to 13th Gen i9-13900k OC to 5.7 aka Raptor Lake Zotac 3090ti upgrade to Zotac 4090 MSG Force Wi-Fi motherboard z690 1700( this MB is fully compatible with the new 13th Gen CPUs) OSLOY RGB 32 RAM DDR5 Pro Samsung 2tb SSD x 2 EVGA 1300 watt gold PSU 28 inch wide UHD 4k monitor Kraken 3 fan RGB water cooler Yes I highly recommend but your gonna need a powerful CPU to get the best out of your card . 13th gen was made for the 4090 and vice versa. Look on TH-cam the results you get with those two . It’s amazing oh and don’t get me started on P3Dv5 heavily modded with add ons, it’s just as fantastic !
@@rockyjetproject1345 Well thanks for that comprehensive reply! I currently have the 12900k on a Strix Z690-E, so I suppose the CPU upgrade would not be too difficult. Maybe I'll take a drive to MicroCenter this week.
@@stevephla It should work and fit right in! Just update the bios to the new firmware for the new CPU from your motherboard website and you’ll be set. Good luck and enjoy! You won’t regret it! Let me know how you like it.
Totally agree. My 10900K/3090 rig was good in MSFS, but my new OC'd 13900K/4090 blows it out of the water. 4K TAA Full Ultra settings with DX12 and Frame Generation. Remember that you must have HAGS enabled!
@@sephiroth4543 I'm on a water cooled rig, and my temp on Cinebench r23 capped out at 58c. I'm on a Ryzen 9 5950x though not a 13900K so my temps are pointless to compare. Regardless of what cooling you use 95 degrees is getting towards the stage of putting components at risk of damage if you aren't careful.
Running a 4070, but the cost of these graphics cards are getting completely out of control. When we start accepting THOUSANDS of dollars for just a graphics card, its turning into something else. Its crazy
I opted for the RTX 4070Ti graphics card with an i9-13900KF processor running at 5487 MHZ. With frame generation enabled, I get 80-100 FPS with mostly ULTRA settings. So less performance than the 4090, but still a very good choice in my unprofessional opinion.
I just got a 4090 rtx and it is SUCH a game changer. I had a 2080 super and it would run fine but not at max settings. With the 4090, I can put at MAX settings and enjoy. A REAL step up from my 2080 super.
The FPS and other figures on the screen speak for themselves whether you choose to believe my opinions or not! Hope you enjoyed the video all the same 😊
@@Chewwy94 not saying the results don’t speak for themselves. It’s just that it’s a bit disconcerting to know that we need to fork out 2k to get those same results ourselves and watch our energy bills go up at the same time. At least that card will help some keep there homes warm during the cold months.
Nice video. But the question is that how much will one invest in the hardware. With the changes in technology one would be bottlenecked either for the graphics or the cpu. So it's best to have a practical expectation. Cheers 👍
man the optimization in this sim has really changed...with my rtx 4080 super Im always getting more than 60 fps at inibuilds or orbx airports with fenix a320, and you have the same fps even though you have a 4090
Gtx 3080 -3090 series are also compatible with Meta Quest VR. I have a 4090…..it’s not compatible hardware. That sucks if your trying to use it in VR. Because MSFS in VR is where everything shines.
Lol I got a 4090 and have it paired with a 5800X3D. I'm running the sim on 1440p display with maxed out settings and using msaa and frame generation. With ai traffic at a busy airport and fenix a320 I still maintain over 50 fps. At smaller airport fps is anywhere between 70 and 100. In the air fps is at 120. No regrets!! At remote locations fps exceeds 120 this videocard is ridiculous!
Yeah unfortunately Twitch limitations mean I can only really stream in 1080p, but I’ll definitely record some content away from Twitch in 4K delightfulness soon!
At the moment I'm using a 3070TI and with DLSS turned on the altitude changes on the altimeter are just blurry and unreadable. In this video they don't seem to be too bad. So is that just DLSS 3.0 working better for fast changing movement on the screens?
DLSS 3.0 is a bit different from previous versions as it works by just "inserting" frames in between normally vectored frames. It doesn't make anything blurry since it doesn't work the same way.
I'm from a 3rd world country i saved up and got a 3060 because of dlss when i used it it was blurry af i had to go back TAAi wish they could add dlss 3 to 30 series
Nvidia calling it DLSS 3 is just confusing naming. Actually, frame generation is totally independent from the upscaling part of DLSS. Meaning that you can use frame generation with TAA, which also doesn't have the blurry and unreadable instrument text.
Yes it was flown by a good friend of mine who lives in Australia. That is the beauty of the VATSIM network and just flight simulators in general...you don't always have to fly completely realistically!
We are reaching (or have reached) the point of diminishing returns in terms of video cards for the sake of FS. How much will the next card cost? 2.5K? Closer to 3K? What will it deliver? More FPS? Not needed, really. Those megablaster extended++ cards will make sense if/when 8k or 16K video ever becomes a thing in FS. Until then it's a matter of "look ma, 70 FPS". Also: What's with the artifacts on the taxiway centerline in the distance shown at 07:05?
Its not just a matter of FPS, its about maintaining smoothness, which comes from higher FPS, which comes from higher VRAM. VRAM on the 4090 is the game changer. In DX12, if you max out VRAM, it causes stutters, and at an airport like heathrow, you will max out anything less than 16GB VRAM.
Any chance you can tell me how you set up the outside view for the flaps and engine view.....what are they called and what buttons do you have them assigned to? Also maybe show what in game setting are set to in the actual options menu for graphics. Great vid
The framerates are bordering over the 60fps mark but not sure if everything is totally maxed out. But why are you spending so much time on the tarmac and inside the cockpit. Would be interesting to see the plane in external view flying over dense areas like New York or Tokyo to see how the 4090 copes fully squeezed dry.
I have GPU geforce 4090 24GB, CPU intel core i9 13900K and monitor Samsung odissey G9 curve 49" (5120X14440 resolution) , but my fps in challenge scenary (fly by wire airbus in KLAX for instance) is very poor (widely below 30fps). I beleive that is not accetable considering the PC. What I'm doing wrong?
Does amd 5950x bottle neck with RTX 4090, some say it can’t utilise it fully? I have amd 5950x ans have ordered the rtx 4090, should I upgrade the processor?
Sorry but I hate these free advertising videos. Instead of Nvidia giving free graphic cards away to TH-cam etc and rubbing the noses of people that can’t afford them in it, maybe they should drop the price and make them more readily available at the time of release.
if the price is lower there would be a shortage. Hope u r lucky enough to get one of these by the end of the production cycle if the retail price is set at one fifths of the original.
With which settings were these fps obtained? 60fps looks good. On my 5900x and 3080 TI the CPU is barely used and the OC'ed GPU gets often to 100%. This is why I am curious about the MSFS settings, they do have a big impact.
@@saffrongames been away for work. So I haven’t had a chance yet ☹️ Edit: I just watch one of my old videos and with max setting at 4K I was getting a avg 35 fps With the 4090 max settings I would get avg of 62 to 65fps.
Interesting Video, but I get the same results with a MSI 4080 Suprim X in combination with an AMD R9-7950X3D. So no need for a 4090, you can do the same with the cheaper 4080 👍
Amazing. Can you imagine FS2024 and RTX5090 with the new Pimax Super coming up in Q4? Forget about real life 😂... Although this is going to be quite expensive combo (~8000 USD), it's better than paying for the whole flight course and then the hours to fly, in my opinion.
I have a 3090 with my 5950x, and I'm always CPU limited at 4K. What settings are you using that actually allow the 4090 to make a difference? I've tinkered with the usual suspects terrain LOD, but no dice. I'm at about 30-40fps at fps-killers like inibuilds EGLL and KLAX with xenviro and FSTL. I do get the occasional dip below 30 and a microstutter or two when panning in "thick" weather and heavy traffic, which is likely down to those two addons. In any case, curious what I have to sacrifice in order to be GPU limited. Btw, I have the Varjo Aero, but I've been sticking with non-VR ever since I got my Samsung Odyssey Ark...which is amazing. Cheers
It's simply the DLSS Frame Generation option being turned on. It will help you at every CPU spec. I'm also CPU limited on a 5800X3D and the 4090 w/ DLSS Frame Generation has still doubled my FPS.
Ah, well, maybe next lifetime! Stuck here with my newly purchased RTX3080Ti. Yeah, that's what I said - newly purchased. I doubt that I can keep up the chase anymore.
Ridiculous trying to keep up. Just be happy with what you got for now . At some point the 4090 will reduce. We all want faster and smoother, the people making these videos are the lucky ones. For now, be thankful and just enjoy.
Hi Chewwy. Ive been thinking of starting to use Vatsim but I often see so few locations in Europe showing up on Volanta as having controllers (perhaps 25 Nr. max). Never seen EGPH being online. Is Volanta inaccurate on what airports currently have coverage. Its Sunday afternoon and after just watching your video I checked and surprised its not showing. Much of the midlands and south of England shows with a single large shaded region but not identifying individual airports. Guessing my lack of knowledge into online flying doesnt help
The grey shaded area is a controlled zone. While you sometimes get coverage on the airport itself (Tower, Ground, Delivery) you don’t always. If there is a controlled area the controller will usually provide „top down“ services meaning they will provide you with approach, tower and ground services. On the way out they will also provide clearance in addition to the others.
Nvidia marketing on this product is so questionable. With a high frame rate camera we filmed frame generation. All it does is inject a frame between two frames that’s a combination of those two frames. That all it is. It isn’t “ai”. It is literally the series specific selling point. They could do it with the 30 series but they choose not to.
I am personally using TAA at the moment, just as there is a bit of screen ghosting on displays in MSFS, which will hopefully be fixed at some point this year. I definitely found with DLSS3 enabled that my GPU usage reduced as did temperatures as you'd expect to see. I didn't notice a huge amount of quality difference but I'd need to do further testing.
@@Chewwy94 thanks 😊. Using dlss3 and quality mode with fenix. It Works fine. Can see pfd pretty clear. Have a I9-13900 and 4090. It gives 5-10 more fps in egll on quality mode then you displayed. So not a huge increase. Fantastic upgrade from the 30-Series. 🙏😊
Can someone please explain something to me. The ATC is that real humans? Or is that some kind of AI? if it is humans, do these guys just get a kick out of being ATC?
Yup. A 4080 is just as good for anyone wondering. I'm maxed out at 4K and using just 60 percent of my GPU at 60 fps locked. The sim is really CPU limited. A 4070Ti would probably be just AS good too. A 4090 is overkill for just about everything currently.
You should be getting 60 fps in VR, that's terrible. Many videos showing it go over 120 fps with a 4090. I get the same framerate with a 3060 ti i2400, are you sure your cpu is turbo'd? This is a very odd video.
I’m playing 4K resolution, with ultra settings on absolutely everything. I explicitly state in the video we will still have a CPU bottleneck, and it shows in the video us easily reaching triple figure FPS at higher altitudes. You’ve mentioned nothing about resolution, settings, addon scenery and aircraft complexity. This is a very odd comment.
No idea how all you other 4090 owners are getting such high FPS but with my GPU setting similar as yours , I only get 20fps to maybe 30fps if I am lucky and stutters like crazy . Nothing near 50 or 60 fps ever no mater what I set it too . Geforce Aorus Master 4090 5950x 16core 5 Ghz 64GBs Ramm at 3600 Mhz 2 terabyte me2 drives 2 SSD and one HD Win10 Have all latest drivers and updates installed
Great question! I stream to Twitch.tv, which doesn’t really support 4K very well. Until it does it’s more difficult for me to record full 4 hour streams in 4K. Hope you enjoyed the video despite it only being 1080p!
@@Chewwy94 wow, that's awesome to know. I'm on a 5900x and was trying to determine how cpu limited I'll be when my 4070ti arrives next week. I would imagine I'll get performance similar to what you're seeing since we're both CPU limited by similar cpus. Thanks for sharing! Do you use a capture card for screen recording or do you use your GPU for video encoding? Thanks again!
Well, it's still not a Holy grail. Especially in VR. I have 4090 with 13900ks processor, and yes, in 2D with absolutely all on ultra i have over 120 fps. But, VR, different story. In DLSS I can still run it very smoothly with all on ultra, problem is DLSS is lacking sharpness and quality ot TAA. Especially noticeable in cockpit. I am using TAA, but I have to tune down settings and then I can run it in VR with 40-45 fps. So, almost there, but not quite yet.
Bummer, even being employed and actually very decent salary, I still find 4090 price tag ridiculous. Some people would need to sell liver to get 4090 say with 13900k and basically all other components to support such power. I have 3070Ti and 10700k on ultra wide 2k resolution and very happy with it so far, yeah not getting 60fps on Heathrow but it’s about smoothness, not fps. Thanks for the video
@@edenassos what’s that supposed to mean? Dude, chill out and mind your business. Dumbest comment I’ve ever read to be honest. So if someone cannot afford right away something, that means, that those people should stop playing games? Your logic is really questionable. Go to doctor and make sure your brain is functioning
@@RobAirepicflights It means you should be out there making better life decisions and getting a real job or a business if you're crying over 2K for a GPU that was sold out because plenty of people can afford it. My logic is flawless and that is why you're mad. Peasants/beggars are always choosing. It's not that the 4090 is expensive. It's that you're a choosing beggar that thinks everything should be priced according to your budget. I don't need to go to a doctor. You need to get a real job. Did I hurt your little feelings?
@@RobAirepicflights Haha. Looks like you're already wasting plenty of your time. If you actually knew how to spend your time, we wouldn't even have had this conversation since you wouldn't have started crying about the cost of a 4090. It's evident you don't know how to utilize your time.
The RTX 4090 is definatley a wallet changer.
🤣🤣
I just got a 4090 the other day and yes... its HELLA INSANE!!
Same mate. Which ones you get?
@@RTSchofieldGigabyte gaming OC for me. Was going to get the windforce v2, but the price went up 100 dollars, while dropping 100 dollars on the Gaming OC. Even came with Alan Wake 2!
I got mine but at night my lights on the runway from my jet almost strobe. So annoying
I have the same 4090 card with a 13900K CPU and get 100+ FPS with PMDG 777 and payware airports. 42" 4K TV also. Sometime it goes down to 70-80 for a few moments. But this is clearly an awesome set up to run MSFS.
PMDG777? P3D?
@@matness8879 he is either lying or meant to say P3d or meant the pmdg 737 because there is no PMDG 777 out for MSFS yet lol
@Rocky Jet Project
Hahaha indeed! I thought I was dreaming when I read the comment
I have exactly your GPU and CPU with a monitor samsung odissey curve 49". Unfortunately I dont have your extrtraordinary performance. In challenge scenary my fps is below 30. I spent a lot of money and I'm very disppointed. Could you give some set up suggestion to improve my performance. Many thanks for your help
@@matness8879youll never guess what just came out lol here a year later
You've helped me so much with your videos Chewwy. Truly happy for you and the new 4090.
You’ve made it chewy! Nvida sending you hardware. Strong work that chap. Bravo.
This is the best piece of hardware ever put into a computer case - until the '50 Series' is released!
I just got mine today. Upgraded from a 3090ti to the 4090 and with DLSS and AI frame generation and DX12 beta in settings, it’s insane! It’s a good year to be a flight simmer!!
But the 4090 can't get me geta Pilot licence lol. I really love this game but the 4090 price tag is insane!
I picked up my new 13900k and 4090 rig last week. Mind blown lol Spent a couple of hours seeing what fps I was getting in Ultra 1440p and then basically gave up looking at it!
Got the same but losing the will with pauses and stuttering, tried everything
@@nickdesai6829just turn on frame generation (needs HAGS on and DX12). 170fps on 1440p!! 😳
Please, share the addon you installed on this video. I got installed 4090 yesterday, but there's no addon 3rd party airport .
never seen msfs2020 run this smooth
This awesome! I just ordered my 4090. I’m upgrading from a 3090ti and really excited about the DLSS for the 40 series!
How much difference did the upgrade make for you? Considering upgrading from 3090ti myself.
@@stevephla so it was massive in gains. The 4090 is a juggernaut of a powerhouse but, I had a 12 gen i9-12900k CPU. I had to buy a 13 gen i9-13900k because the 12 gen was too weak for the card and it was bottle necking the CPU, now the CPU is too powerful for the 4090 which is which is what you want so that the card can perform at its best. In MSFS graphic settings I have it set to DX12 beta with TAA and AI regeneration turned on. You could have it set to DLSS but TAA makes it more crisp and not as blurry as DLSS but DLSS is still good don’t get me wrong. On the ground I’m running 80 FPS on all max ultra settings with PMDG aircraft, 4k monitor, except terrain LOD is at 300 , I can do it at 400 but 300 I like how it looks, I even saw a video on 100 and it still looks fantastic I even tried it and with like 90% of MSFS traffic on like airport vehicles, planes both GA and it liners, vehicles on roads, fauna, boats etc ( this is default MSFS traffic I can just imagine if I got the new traffic Add ons like just flight traffic or FSTL, either way, the PC is powerful enough to run it all so you don’t gotta worry about if you should get this add on or not due to performance, it will run it amazingly) with heavy airports like inibuild KLAX and KSAT, flightbeam, fly Tampa, KEWR, KBOS you name it I got it. In the air I’m around 120-130 fps but I locked the sim to 60 fps butter smooth in nvidia panel. Now, with the 12 gen 12900k and the 3090ti, I had everything maxed ultra with about 50% traffic but I had it locked at 30 fps and terrain LOD at 350 and it was smooth as butter again with the payware airports etc. Now I upgraded because it’s truly some\thing else to experience any flight sim at 60fps locked or unlocked for that matter at such high FPS with beautiful ultra maxed settings 95%. The CPU I have with the 4090 is powerful, like it’s unbelievable. In short, yes, I highly recommend you get it. You won’t regret it and it’s worth every penny. These are my specs and everything named below is about 9 months old except the CPU and the GPU
12th Gen i9-12900k upgrade to 13th Gen i9-13900k OC to 5.7 aka Raptor Lake
Zotac 3090ti upgrade to Zotac 4090
MSG Force Wi-Fi motherboard z690 1700( this MB is fully compatible with the new 13th Gen CPUs)
OSLOY RGB 32 RAM DDR5
Pro Samsung 2tb SSD x 2
EVGA 1300 watt gold PSU
28 inch wide UHD 4k monitor
Kraken 3 fan RGB water cooler
Yes I highly recommend but your gonna need a powerful CPU to get the best out of your card . 13th gen was made for the 4090 and vice versa. Look on TH-cam the results you get with those two . It’s amazing oh and don’t get me started on P3Dv5 heavily modded with add ons, it’s just as fantastic !
@@rockyjetproject1345 Well thanks for that comprehensive reply! I currently have the 12900k on a Strix Z690-E, so I suppose the CPU upgrade would not be too difficult. Maybe I'll take a drive to MicroCenter this week.
@@stevephla It should work and fit right in! Just update the bios to the new firmware for the new CPU from your motherboard website and you’ll be set. Good luck and enjoy! You won’t regret it! Let me know how you like it.
@Rocky Jet Project I will take the 3090ti if you don't want it 😂 hope for a job like yours one day to be able to afford this stuff well done.
Totally agree. My 10900K/3090 rig was good in MSFS, but my new OC'd 13900K/4090 blows it out of the water. 4K TAA Full Ultra settings with DX12 and Frame Generation. Remember that you must have HAGS enabled!
What temps do you get on the i9 13900k, mine hits 95+ degrees on cinebench r23
@@sephiroth4543 something is going very wrong with your cooling if it’s reaching those temperatures.
@Chewwy94 what temps do you get in Cinebench r23 multi threading benchmark
@@sephiroth4543 I'm on a water cooled rig, and my temp on Cinebench r23 capped out at 58c. I'm on a Ryzen 9 5950x though not a 13900K so my temps are pointless to compare. Regardless of what cooling you use 95 degrees is getting towards the stage of putting components at risk of damage if you aren't careful.
@@sephiroth4543 Max P Core temp, and thus Die Temp is 85C.
It would have been helpful if you showed what your settings were.
Nice video, though with that kind of Power, it would have been great to show densely populated cities or mountainous/colorful terrains during the day
Running a 4070, but the cost of these graphics cards are getting completely out of control. When we start accepting THOUSANDS of dollars for just a graphics card, its turning into something else. Its crazy
I opted for the RTX 4070Ti graphics card with an i9-13900KF processor running at 5487 MHZ. With frame generation enabled, I get 80-100 FPS with mostly ULTRA settings. So less performance than the 4090, but still a very good choice in my unprofessional opinion.
I just got a 4090 rtx and it is SUCH a game changer. I had a 2080 super and it would run fine but not at max settings. With the 4090, I can put at MAX settings and enjoy. A REAL step up from my 2080 super.
So this is basically an NVIDIA commercial? Lol
The FPS and other figures on the screen speak for themselves whether you choose to believe my opinions or not! Hope you enjoyed the video all the same 😊
@@Chewwy94 not saying the results don’t speak for themselves. It’s just that it’s a bit disconcerting to know that we need to fork out 2k to get those same results ourselves and watch our energy bills go up at the same time. At least that card will help some keep there homes warm during the cold months.
@@ChrisVirgilio
@@ChrisVirgilio Frame Generation and DLSS 3.0 is a feature on all of the 40 series graphics card, not just the 4090! 😊
@@tgmjrtgmjr8221 Thanks for stopping by.
Nice video. But the question is that how much will one invest in the hardware. With the changes in technology one would be bottlenecked either for the graphics or the cpu. So it's best to have a practical expectation. Cheers 👍
Mesmerising to watch. The live ATC is something else.
I'll get it when it is called the 6070.
man the optimization in this sim has really changed...with my rtx 4080 super Im always getting more than 60 fps at inibuilds or orbx airports with fenix a320, and you have the same fps even though you have a 4090
Gtx 3080 -3090 series are also compatible with Meta Quest VR. I have a 4090…..it’s not compatible hardware. That sucks if your trying to use it in VR. Because MSFS in VR is where everything shines.
I just upgraded from the Intel 11900kf with 3090ti and 4tb SATA III
To Intel 14900kf with 4090 and gen 5 m.2 2tb SSD
i can't wait to see the gains!
Lol I got a 4090 and have it paired with a 5800X3D. I'm running the sim on 1440p display with maxed out settings and using msaa and frame generation. With ai traffic at a busy airport and fenix a320 I still maintain over 50 fps. At smaller airport fps is anywhere between 70 and 100. In the air fps is at 120. No regrets!! At remote locations fps exceeds 120 this videocard is ridiculous!
The jealousy is REAL! so smooooooooth! I wish we could see it in 4K, the 1080p doesn't do it justice
Yeah unfortunately Twitch limitations mean I can only really stream in 1080p, but I’ll definitely record some content away from Twitch in 4K delightfulness soon!
Good try Nvidia marketing LOL 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨..... I don't need to upgrade my RTX 3080 no, no, no, I need a higher IPC then my Ryzen 5800x can do. 🤔
At the moment I'm using a 3070TI and with DLSS turned on the altitude changes on the altimeter are just blurry and unreadable. In this video they don't seem to be too bad. So is that just DLSS 3.0 working better for fast changing movement on the screens?
Yes, the same issue with dlss on RTX 3000 series. NVIDIA fix these problem on Rtx 4090. They don’t care 3000 series any more.
DLSS 3.0 is a bit different from previous versions as it works by just "inserting" frames in between normally vectored frames. It doesn't make anything blurry since it doesn't work the same way.
I'm from a 3rd world country i saved up and got a 3060 because of dlss when i used it it was blurry af i had to go back TAAi wish they could add dlss 3 to 30 series
Nvidia calling it DLSS 3 is just confusing naming. Actually, frame generation is totally independent from the upscaling part of DLSS. Meaning that you can use frame generation with TAA, which also doesn't have the blurry and unreadable instrument text.
I hear you saying Shuttle Niner Kilo, had the phonetic alphabet changed in the UK since I was a kid flying in the Cadet RAF?
Was the Qantas 747 actually being flown by an Austrlian cause it sounds like it and why was it in Edinburgh?
Yes it was flown by a good friend of mine who lives in Australia. That is the beauty of the VATSIM network and just flight simulators in general...you don't always have to fly completely realistically!
Hi, which equipment do you use / would you reccomend to start with ms flight simulator? thanks!
I went from a 2080 to a 4080. Game plays almost perfect. So smooth.
I just ordered my rtx 4090. I used to have a 2080 super so hoping it will be a lot better experience! Thanks for sharing
We are reaching (or have reached) the point of diminishing returns in terms of video cards for the sake of FS. How much will the next card cost? 2.5K? Closer to 3K? What will it deliver? More FPS? Not needed, really. Those megablaster extended++ cards will make sense if/when 8k or 16K video ever becomes a thing in FS. Until then it's a matter of "look ma, 70 FPS".
Also:
What's with the artifacts on the taxiway centerline in the distance shown at 07:05?
Its not just a matter of FPS, its about maintaining smoothness, which comes from higher FPS, which comes from higher VRAM. VRAM on the 4090 is the game changer. In DX12, if you max out VRAM, it causes stutters, and at an airport like heathrow, you will max out anything less than 16GB VRAM.
Upgrading to the 4090 from the 3090ti tomorrow.
Completely off topic but I see you’re wearing a Seahawks sweatshirt. You a Seahawks fan? Never met one outside the US, I’m a hawks fan myself
Any chance you can tell me how you set up the outside view for the flaps and engine view.....what are they called and what buttons do you have them assigned to? Also maybe show what in game setting are set to in the actual options menu for graphics. Great vid
The framerates are bordering over the 60fps mark but not sure if everything is totally maxed out. But why are you spending so much time on the tarmac and inside the cockpit. Would be interesting to see the plane in external view flying over dense areas like New York or Tokyo to see how the 4090 copes fully squeezed dry.
I have an rtx 4080 super and its such a unique experience!
Ouch, Glideslope call-out over the fence….. paperwork for sure.
I don't want heat or noide so I cap the FPS to 31 in MSFS2020 and X-Plane 12, so a 4080 or a 7900XTX is expensive enough for me.
For this Price I Expect an Ultra Real Graphic and All Time Smooth Movements.. Something like Perfect. 👌🏼
I have GPU geforce 4090 24GB, CPU intel core i9 13900K and monitor Samsung odissey G9 curve 49" (5120X14440 resolution) , but my fps in challenge scenary (fly by wire airbus in KLAX for instance) is very poor (widely below 30fps). I beleive that is not accetable considering the PC. What I'm doing wrong?
terrain level of detail set too high.
Does amd 5950x bottle neck with RTX 4090, some say it can’t utilise it fully? I have amd 5950x ans have ordered the rtx 4090, should I upgrade the processor?
Awesome video Chewwy. I have pcspeacilist putting together my pc with a 4090. Should arrive next week, watching this has got me pumped for it!
RTX4090 is the ultemit dicision hight to get the new graphic board. Thank you for your amazing video!!!
Your sim is basically eye candy now
Great video - what monitor do you use ?
equipment's link please where can i buy
throttle and gear please can you tell me where i can buy online
Hmmm - £1200 to £1700 - may need to forgo this till heating bills come down - or does it double as a home heat source as well?
19:50 how are you talking to ATC just like real. Are you using any add on?
Sorry but I hate these free advertising videos. Instead of Nvidia giving free graphic cards away to TH-cam etc and rubbing the noses of people that can’t afford them in it, maybe they should drop the price and make them more readily available at the time of release.
Appreciate your frustration flyboy, hope you enjoyed watching the flights in the video even if not the sponsored element. Thanks for watching!
if the price is lower there would be a shortage. Hope u r lucky enough to get one of these by the end of the production cycle if the retail price is set at one fifths of the original.
I agree with Flyboy747 even though I do own a 4090.
Chilling here with my rx 580
@@DubElementMusiclol the 5090 won't be any cheaper
With which settings were these fps obtained? 60fps looks good. On my 5900x and 3080 TI the CPU is barely used and the OC'ed GPU gets often to 100%. This is why I am curious about the MSFS settings, they do have a big impact.
I can let you know later this week. I upgraded from Evga 3080ti to MSI 4090 and using 5900x
@SMOKEthatGAME B reminder 😁
@@saffrongames been away for work. So I haven’t had a chance yet ☹️
Edit: I just watch one of my old videos and with max setting at 4K I was getting a avg 35 fps
With the 4090 max settings I would get avg of 62 to 65fps.
Interesting Video, but I get the same results with a MSI 4080 Suprim X in combination with an AMD R9-7950X3D. So no need for a 4090, you can do the same with the cheaper 4080 👍
Don't be shocked if Nvidia cards become more expensive than actual aircraft soon. 30k for a real plane, and a paraglider is like 3k.
Amazing. Can you imagine FS2024 and RTX5090 with the new Pimax Super coming up in Q4? Forget about real life 😂... Although this is going to be quite expensive combo (~8000 USD), it's better than paying for the whole flight course and then the hours to fly, in my opinion.
RTX 3080, going to get the 4090 now!
sell me the 3080 bro
no sell me!
I have a 3090 with my 5950x, and I'm always CPU limited at 4K. What settings are you using that actually allow the 4090 to make a difference? I've tinkered with the usual suspects terrain LOD, but no dice. I'm at about 30-40fps at fps-killers like inibuilds EGLL and KLAX with xenviro and FSTL. I do get the occasional dip below 30 and a microstutter or two when panning in "thick" weather and heavy traffic, which is likely down to those two addons. In any case, curious what I have to sacrifice in order to be GPU limited.
Btw, I have the Varjo Aero, but I've been sticking with non-VR ever since I got my Samsung Odyssey Ark...which is amazing.
Cheers
It's simply the DLSS Frame Generation option being turned on. It will help you at every CPU spec. I'm also CPU limited on a 5800X3D and the 4090 w/ DLSS Frame Generation has still doubled my FPS.
@@berzerker4998 Out of interest, what kind of FPS are you seeing with the 5800X3D and the 4090?
how are you taxing on ground ? rudder pedals ? i use tca sidestick , works well but its not perfect.
I use the Thrustmaster Pendular Rudder Pedals!
Is the 4080 super not as comparable though msi
Ah, well, maybe next lifetime! Stuck here with my newly purchased RTX3080Ti. Yeah, that's what I said - newly purchased. I doubt that I can keep up the chase anymore.
Ridiculous trying to keep up. Just be happy with what you got for now . At some point the 4090 will reduce. We all want faster and smoother, the people making these videos are the lucky ones. For now, be thankful and just enjoy.
@@ianmorgan9291 Lol lucky? "Anyone who has more money than me is lucky".
Do you use reshade? If so what preset?
Hi Chewwy. Ive been thinking of starting to use Vatsim but I often see so few locations in Europe showing up on Volanta as having controllers (perhaps 25 Nr. max). Never seen EGPH being online. Is Volanta inaccurate on what airports currently have coverage. Its Sunday afternoon and after just watching your video I checked and surprised its not showing. Much of the midlands and south of England shows with a single large shaded region but not identifying individual airports. Guessing my lack of knowledge into online flying doesnt help
Give vatspy a try. I use that and it’s great
The grey shaded area is a controlled zone. While you sometimes get coverage on the airport itself (Tower, Ground, Delivery) you don’t always. If there is a controlled area the controller will usually provide „top down“ services meaning they will provide you with approach, tower and ground services. On the way out they will also provide clearance in addition to the others.
few days untill 7950X3D
Nvidia marketing on this product is so questionable. With a high frame rate camera we filmed frame generation. All it does is inject a frame between two frames that’s a combination of those two frames. That all it is. It isn’t “ai”. It is literally the series specific selling point. They could do it with the 30 series but they choose not to.
What graphic preset are you using for this video?
Hi. Great video. Do you see Any difference between dlss3 quality and TAA?
I am personally using TAA at the moment, just as there is a bit of screen ghosting on displays in MSFS, which will hopefully be fixed at some point this year. I definitely found with DLSS3 enabled that my GPU usage reduced as did temperatures as you'd expect to see. I didn't notice a huge amount of quality difference but I'd need to do further testing.
@@Chewwy94 thanks 😊. Using dlss3 and quality mode with fenix. It Works fine. Can see pfd pretty clear. Have a I9-13900 and 4090. It gives 5-10 more fps in egll on quality mode then you displayed. So not a huge increase. Fantastic upgrade from the 30-Series. 🙏😊
I have the 4080 card. Absolutely amazing.
Are you using FS Traffic here?
VATSIM
Follow the greens system should be implemented in MSFS
Is the radio talk between u guys real?
Vatsim
How good will the 5000 Series be? I'll Wait for that.
@T BoneI guess I'll wait for the 7000 / 8000 / 9000 . I Love the Numbers.
what was your cpu temps?
Can someone please explain something to me. The ATC is that real humans? Or is that some kind of AI? if it is humans, do these guys just get a kick out of being ATC?
Vatsim
If in future in your streams, if there's any stutters, we now know it's the internet! 😎
For 2500€ + PC cost = PPL and all is as real as it gets and smooth as silk
Congratulations for defining real world vs simulation! 😊
@@Chewwy94 I’m joking, anyway 60 fps with 4090?! … this simulator needs many many optimization work from Asobo I think, 👍
Wow, I'm amazed people are still using flight simulators in non VR
Lots use head tracker which is better than VR imo
The price doesn’t change.
holy heck, it’s worth more than the gdp of some nations… it would want to make a difference!
Yup. A 4080 is just as good for anyone wondering.
I'm maxed out at 4K and using just 60 percent of my GPU at 60 fps locked.
The sim is really CPU limited.
A 4070Ti would probably be just AS good too.
A 4090 is overkill for just about everything currently.
will a 4090 fit in my 3070 computer case?
You should be getting 60 fps in VR, that's terrible. Many videos showing it go over 120 fps with a 4090. I get the same framerate with a 3060 ti i2400, are you sure your cpu is turbo'd? This is a very odd video.
I’m playing 4K resolution, with ultra settings on absolutely everything. I explicitly state in the video we will still have a CPU bottleneck, and it shows in the video us easily reaching triple figure FPS at higher altitudes. You’ve mentioned nothing about resolution, settings, addon scenery and aircraft complexity. This is a very odd comment.
nice to see a left handed player like me 😎
Too broke
Which is the settings used to get this fps
Instead of 4090, 7800x3d + 4080 would be better.
Yup. If you're already CPU limited a 4090 will do naff all.
Wow! Can you share pls your hardware?
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X
GPU: Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 FE
MOBO: ASUS ROG Crosshair Impact VIII x570
RAM: 32GB TeamGroup 8Pack CL16 3600mhz
OS: Windows 10 (64 bit)
Storage: 12TB Total - 2x M.2's, 4x SSD's
Cooling: EK Custom Water Cooling System
Case: Fractal Meshify 2
Can you do a video using PMDG 737?
Why ???? There’s millions out there
goddamn i need an rtx 4090 graphics card
I also just saw the price of it.
Maybe in 2027…
No idea how all you other 4090 owners are getting such high FPS but with my GPU setting similar as yours , I only get 20fps to maybe 30fps if I am lucky and stutters like crazy . Nothing near 50 or 60 fps ever no mater what I set it too .
Geforce Aorus Master 4090
5950x 16core 5 Ghz
64GBs Ramm at 3600 Mhz
2 terabyte me2 drives 2 SSD and one HD
Win10
Have all latest drivers and updates installed
Were you able to resolve this? What was the issue?
This shit looks amazing on my LG C2 holly 🐄
so why isn't this video in 4k?
Great question! I stream to Twitch.tv, which doesn’t really support 4K very well. Until it does it’s more difficult for me to record full 4 hour streams in 4K. Hope you enjoyed the video despite it only being 1080p!
what cpu are you using?
AMD Ryzen 9 5950x
@@Chewwy94 ah ok thx for letting me know. I'm planning to upgrade to a 4090 and 7950x3d in February since that's when zen 4 3d v cache cpus comes out.
@@Chewwy94 wow, that's awesome to know. I'm on a 5900x and was trying to determine how cpu limited I'll be when my 4070ti arrives next week. I would imagine I'll get performance similar to what you're seeing since we're both CPU limited by similar cpus. Thanks for sharing!
Do you use a capture card for screen recording or do you use your GPU for video encoding? Thanks again!
Now all I need is, a billion dollas 🙃😉
Sorry.Not paying over 2k for a card.
It changes everything. Most of all your bank account. 😅
Totally agree.
Well, it's still not a Holy grail. Especially in VR. I have 4090 with 13900ks processor, and yes, in 2D with absolutely all on ultra i have over 120 fps. But, VR, different story. In DLSS I can still run it very smoothly with all on ultra, problem is DLSS is lacking sharpness and quality ot TAA. Especially noticeable in cockpit. I am using TAA, but I have to tune down settings and then I can run it in VR with 40-45 fps. So, almost there, but not quite yet.
what do you do for a living? Just wondering because i would never be able to afford a 4090 lol
You didn’t notice the part where he said, nvidia sent it over for him to try?
@@kevin007dk oh really? that's pretty cool
@@flickety1019 yep he says it in the beginning. Imagine having one
yeah that would be so cool
Bummer, even being employed and actually very decent salary, I still find 4090 price tag ridiculous. Some people would need to sell liver to get 4090 say with 13900k and basically all other components to support such power. I have 3070Ti and 10700k on ultra wide 2k resolution and very happy with it so far, yeah not getting 60fps on Heathrow but it’s about smoothness, not fps. Thanks for the video
If you can't afford it, you shouldn't be playing games.
@@edenassos what’s that supposed to mean? Dude, chill out and mind your business. Dumbest comment I’ve ever read to be honest. So if someone cannot afford right away something, that means, that those people should stop playing games? Your logic is really questionable. Go to doctor and make sure your brain is functioning
@@RobAirepicflights It means you should be out there making better life decisions and getting a real job or a business if you're crying over 2K for a GPU that was sold out because plenty of people can afford it. My logic is flawless and that is why you're mad. Peasants/beggars are always choosing. It's not that the 4090 is expensive. It's that you're a choosing beggar that thinks everything should be priced according to your budget. I don't need to go to a doctor. You need to get a real job. Did I hurt your little feelings?
@@edenassos whatever dude. Not going to waste my time with spammer like you.
@@RobAirepicflights Haha. Looks like you're already wasting plenty of your time. If you actually knew how to spend your time, we wouldn't even have had this conversation since you wouldn't have started crying about the cost of a 4090. It's evident you don't know how to utilize your time.
60% gpu usage lol…. Gpu isn’t even producing the frames it can because it’s using half its power. Fix that