RedHerronRecords what hope? This world is full of evil terrible people with evil terrible things happening everyday. Sure there is some good things happening everyday, but more bad (especially nowadays).
Could Derek do an unnecessary 3D video using youtube VR so we can experience the 3D?? Imagine a video on weird and unnecessary technology made with weird and unnecessary technology.
BTW Katsukity used to make capture cards kits (a modded 3DS) that can record the game footage in 3D He sadly went bankrupt, but you can still buy used systems on ebay or in 3dscapture forum
Sad thing is, TH-cam DID used to have a 3D function. I had a 3D Phone (HTC Evo 3D) that had a glasses-less screen similar to the 3DS which supported it. But needless to say, the most recent resurgence of 3D flopped hard and I don't believe TH-cam supports it anymore. And I mean properly supporting 3D displays, not just the red/blue glasses thing.
Suddenly realized that the Sonic IOS port situation is exactly the same as with Super Mario Bros. Deluxe: faithful preservation, modern additions such as a world map, cutscenes and challenges, tons of extra content, and even the sequel game as a bonus; in short, the definitive version of their flagship series’ debut title trapped in an a neglected mobile port. Don’t know about Derek and Grace but I’d kill for a full screen port
"I've been doing this a couple of years now" that's an understatement man you've been doing this a long time! Love your content from the hvgn days and love to see where you are now!
Well, given the new news from SEGA with how Sonic Team is from here on now going to be handling future games with far more dev time since even they are aware of most of their games shortcomings have came from rushed or unfinished development, it might come actually "come to light." I love Sonic Team, so I really hope they benefit from it right for the next game(s).
"Sonic is in a pretty good place right now, and the future... Looks bright" I want to believe that too. It's been a long time since the future looked bright for Sonic. The hedgehog made me love videogames and care for videogames when I was a little kid. I want him to get better and still be relevant for newer generations :)
@@ALocalClown Colors was good, Generations was great, Mania was amazing. Yeah the franchise had a lot of bad entries, but it wasn't as bad as you make it to be
Look, every few games there'll come one that you'll be interested in. I think there is a magic here that keeps people coming back and I think if you take the bad with a grain of salt and savour the good, you'll be fine. But Sonic IS in a good place right now. Mania did well, and even if Forces was underwhelming, it wasn't a trainwreck. The IDW comics are absolutely fantastic and the movie did really well! Even Team Sonic Racing is a great kart racer. So now we just wait and see what the future has for us. Hoping for a Mania sequel, or a S3&K port in the Retro Engine or even a Sonic Adventure remaster/remake. Sonic might remain the butt of internet jokes for years to come, maybe rightfully so, but every time I think Sonic just can't recover, there comes a game that makes me remember that there is a reason this blue idiot endures.
@@txcforever yeah but theres still lost world boom and forces Why are bad games still happening doesnt sega know that this is hurting more then it can ever recover? I mean so many people now is saying that sony was allways bad or that it was allways doomed to fail and its all segas fault
If they keep it in 2D, then the future is bright. If they try again another 3D, we will have more of the same. Compared with Mario, Sonic still didn't found his formula for the upgrade to 3D. Will it really translate great in 3D? They have to find "that thing" that is still missing. The 3D one that I really enjoyed was Sonic Generations, and even that one still being good, it isn't as the original ones (Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3, Knuckles) and Sonic Mania was.
Yup. It worked on the bigger iPod Classic too! There was also a Java version on the phone. I would love Derek to review all the crazy Java ports of classic games.
Yes, my friend had it. I remember it being really difficult to play as it was on a nano gen 5, the one with the portrait screen, and the game was displayed horizontally so you either had to play one handed or with both hands on one side of the screen.
After sonic origins was announced I figured it was a great time to revisit the sonic port episodes of ssff, & it sounds like origins is going to be the true definitive port with the phone ports finally coming to other platforms (especially steam), the drop dash coming to these ports like the ages ports of 1&2, & 3 & knuckles finally getting some long awaited love. it would be cool for derek to revisit the topic of classic sonic ports with regards to 2, & 3nknux
WOW I never knew Yuzo Koshiro actually helped develop the 8-bit ports! That's actually incredible! Also, the Streets Of Rage 1, 2 and 3 OSTs are available on Spotify now
I loved the video and am so glad you gave Sonic such nice representation here. I am overjoyed with the respect you show and the video was so interesting!
@@gamingnubs7628 I saw that too, but personally believe (no hard evidence to support this, mind you) that Whitehead is under a non-disclosure agreement with Sega to not talk about Sonic prototypes. Whitehead also put the UFOs back in Marble Zone in the 2013 Sonic 1 mobile remaster (with debug mode activated), and I believe that he got those beta assets from Sega.
@@flyforce16 the beta assets were just given to him by sega though. Remember how the Sonic CD remaster revealed the scrapped R2 boss? Why would Whitehead reveal something as huge as THE R2 BOSS AND ENEMIES, but not a small scrapped move.
Minor correction, sorry if it's already been pointed out! TL;DR M2 were talking about their "GigaDrive" MegaDr...I mean _Genesis_ emulation architecture, and needing to add extra VRAM to that _emulated hardware._ They weren't necessarily implying that they were pushing the 3DS to its limits, they were probably far from it. Besides, we all know the true limit of the 3DS was being able to render 4 (8) Ice Climbers simultaneously in Smash Bros! All joking aside, they upgraded _their emulated Genesis_ the same way the NAOMI upgraded the Dreamcast's VRAM by doubling it, or the Sega Chihiro could use more than the 64 MB RAM of the XBOX it was based on. Can you imagine if the 3DS was able to do all it did with only 64K VRAM? The _Genesis_ only had 64K of VRAM, so they hacked their emulated Genesis to run as if it had 128K VRAM. It makes a lot of sense when you consider they basically doubled up on everything in the background with a copy being rendered for each eye. I was originally going to compare the GameCube to the Triforce but that's reportedly just a retail DOL-001 mainboard with all the extra arcade bits tacked onto it. The Chihiro _sometimes_ added extra RAM to the original XBOX, and you can actually play the Chihiro games that required 128MB RAM like Virtua Cop 3 if you've got an original developer "XDK" system. If you are certifiably insane and equally skilled, you can solder an extra 64MB RAM into an original XBOX and it will run those Chihiro games with little fuss! I had to look it up again to make sure, but the OG XBOX (and the Chihiro by extension) actually had a unified memory architecture. Kind of neat for 2001, although a bit ahead of its time.
When you lost your rings in 8-bit sonic it let you recollect one silver ring, rather than no rings at all. It was the first version I ever played so when I played the 16-bit version the ring explosion animation was amazing.
Fantastic video as usual! 💙 Oh and THANKS for the reminder, that i still prefer Sonic SMS over Sonic MD/GEN. ^_^ The SMS version is sooo lovely, i hope you show someday Sonic 2 (SMS) with the exclusive paraglider.
You need to somehow get ahold of the Sonic 1 port on the iPod classic. You played it using the click wheel and the center button had you jump. It was terrible. I played it for hours.
Hey Derek! So good to see you and Producer Grace are healthy and doing well. Thanks for the new episode of “Punching Weight”, you two always make me more interested in a subject when you cover it, and you’ve made me more interested in anything Sonic, than I have been in ages.
I thought that Sonic Master System port looked familiar, until you unveiled that it was also the Game Gear version. I've got some fond memories of that game. One year me and my Dad took a trip up to Oregon from California to retrieve my grandmother's car (I think my Dad was going to sell it for some reason). We met up with her and other family members, and I forget how, but I ended up with a Gamegear and Sonic, Streets of Rage 2, and Columns. The whole drive back I played it, the backlit screen helping me see in the night time hours on the road. I must have had a stash of batteries or a car inverter, because I don't remember running out of juice.
Just wanted to drop in and tell you that you are doing a great job. 'm a recent subscriber and you are up there with The Metal Jesus in terms of awesome game collectors. Thank you so much.
The drop dash didn't originate from Sonic Mania, it was intended to be in Sonic 3 but Sonic Team decided against it in favour for the insta shield. This was discovered in the Sonic 3 prototype.
I’m on the “release the iOS Whitehead remakes of 1, 2 and CD on console already” camp. It’s not like the original Sonic 1 is in dire need of preserving, anyway. There are a LOT of Mega Drive (sorry, Brazilian here) collections with the original available on every system. And the best version is hostage on iOS, with no way to play it comfortable, with a controller, on a big screen, without a lot of tinkering.
The best way to play it on the TV at the moment is via an Amazon Fire TV Stick and a bluetooth controller - but I agree, it needs to be released on everything.
Don't be sorry! I'm from Argentina and I'll always call it the Mega Drive. South America loved that console and the Master System and will never let them die
I use Android, but I see your point. If you want the console experience, buy the Android version from Google Play using BlueStacks (an Android emulator for PC) and configure a Bluetooth controller. Even if your computer doesn't have HDMI out, adapters are easy to find and a lot of them also plug into the headphone jack to give you audio on your TV.
Nice video! I have some good childhood memories of Sonic 8-bit and other Master System titles. Although at the time I was disappointed that I couldn't play the latest Mega Drive entries (I mean, I said I wanted a Sega machine, how were my generous and well-meaning grandparents to know the difference?), stuff like Sonic 8-bit and Sonic Chaos and Batman Returns and Master of Darkness would probably have completely passed me by otherwise, so I'm glad I got to experience them when I did.
2:00 My first Sonic game was Advanced 1, so when I went back to Sonic 1 andd didn't have a spin dash I fumbled through the manual to see if there was something I had missed. The manual said Sonic could perform a "spin dash" but that was just what it called the action of running forward and pressing down, making Sonic roll into a ball.
My first Sonic game was Sonic 2. When I played Sonic 1 I felt like I was playing an archaic version of sonic. I didn't play Sonic 2 for the speed. I always went for the rings. Tried to collect them all. Still do, actually. Even so, Sonic 1 felt old when I played it. If my first experience were with the advance series, I certainly would feel like going to the prehistory of gaming when playing Sonic 1.
Just make the 3D Punching Weight! I don't watch your videos for 3D I watch it to learn new things, you're entertaining and the effort you put in your videos.
2:16: Glad this video highlighted the music from Bridge Zone in Sonic 1 8-bit, and I also really love that stage's impressionistic backgrounds. 🔥👏 I pray that level gets reimagined in Sonic Mania 2.
I had a colleague who was convinced the Master System version of Sonic the Hedgehog came first and the Mega Drive / Genesis version was a port of it. He would not be told otherwise.
The Game Gear was my first gaming system, and Sonic one of my first games. I remember it fondly, it felt pretty awesome to me. Didn't play the 16bit version until much later so I couldn't miss the few missing details.
I love how Derek (or someone) goes through and likes these comments but doesn't reply to them. So you know your recommendation was seen....but you won't find out if he followed it.
Well, the Sega Ages do have a "widescreen mode" of sorts, just stretched to TV/Switch screen dimensions. Also, the 8-bit Sonic game got a 3DS Virtual Console-esque release with bonus features like borders and save states, which I have fond memories of playing. It runs great, and you don't need the thicc boi Wide Lens to play.
I got a cheap Game Gear like a year after it was released. I had Columns for it. But I got immediately got a Master Gear Converter and picked up quite a few Master System games new and used for next to nothing in my small town to play on the Game Gear.
Something I'd like to see is a video about all the bootleg ports of games to 8- and 16-bit consoles, or even just homebrew classic console stuff. I'd love to see what people who know the hardware inside and out are able to do with it.
There was even a version for Old Cellphones. It was Sonic the Hedgehog Java wich was separated in 2 parts, the first time i completed this game was from that version!
You gotta try the 3D on one of the "New 3DS" models, the super-stable 3D is so much of an improvement it makes the original 3DS feel like an unfinished proof-of-concept
The drop dash actually wasn't created by Taxman and Stealth apparently, the leaked prototype of Sonic 3 a month or so ago had the drop dash. It wouldn't surprise me if Iizuka gave the drop dash idea to the team, recalling its original implementation, but ultimate removal from Sonic 3.
There's one notable missing port -- the iPod Video port. It was a complete remake that used the click wheel to play, and ran at a native 320x240 showing more of the screen than the original Genesis version. I played it over and over on the bus, and it was a treat. There's also the miserable java ports for j2me phones. They're worth noting, but not worth playing.
In my teen years, I ended up getting the Master System version of Sonic on the Wii Virtual Console because my brother and I didn’t realize it was the “wrong version.” So thats effectively the version I grew up with. Still had a fun time with that version, and of course I’ve played the Genesis version a bunch. Either’s a good time.
People always bring up Resident Evil 4 and Skyrim for being ported to every console known to man but Sonic 1 never gets brought up. Sonic 1 just sneaks to every console and everyone is just like "Oh, cool. Sonic 1."
honestly i think one port worth mentioning is the DS collection. The fact that the system can run Genesis at all is impressive but Sega even hired the developer responsible by the genesis emulator for the DS
As far as I remember, it was supposed to be a loose spinoff of Outrun where instead of driving across beautiful Europe, you drove on tracks that resembled rollercoasters. It's not as fondly remembered or quite as good, but it's still fun. And the music kicks ass.
You know what games have more complex port histories? Dragon's Lair with 26 ports plus other versions and Lemmings with 29 version excluding multiple fan made ports.
There were plenty more Master System games released after Sonic 1 here in the UK, we got a MS version of Sonic 2 and a standalone called Sonic Chaos! You should discuss these if you haven't already :)
I had the Sonic Classic Collection for the DS which included Sonic 1. I'm not sure who handled that port but I remember hating it solely because you had to touch the touch screen to pause the game, it couldn't be done through a button input.
Did anybody ever play that Flash version of Sonic Advance that used to be all over the internet? I remember it was on coolmathgames or something like that back in my middle and high school days. It wasn't officially licensed by Sega or anything but it was pretty incredible how smoothly they got it to run for a 2006 Flash game.
Yeah, one thing I never much liked about the SMS / GG is the tinny little sound chip... but Sonic 8-bit had some of the best music on the system, thanks to Yuzo Koshiro. (Same with Shinobi GG because guess who did the music for that too.)
If I had control of Sonic Team, I'd make them do like, Sonic Jam but for the new millenium. Including remastered and improved versions of like, everything up to the Adventure bi-logy. Sonic hasn't done quite so well with "new" content, but improving on old content always seems to get both fans and the mainstream happy.
My head did explode when i downloaded sonic on VC. It played just like i remembered it on the genesis and my 16 year old brain almost couldnt handle it
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Wow, I didn’t know that it was possible to talk about the Master System without mentioning Brazil even once. Congratulations, Derek.
"It runs Doom" is the classic programmer exercise, so we might as well add "It runs Sonic 1" to the list with how many ports it's had.
Doom quake sonic and a ness emulator is the list of software that every single eletronic has
This only works as doom is open source and is known for how cleanly coded it is. Sonic sadly isn’t open source
"It runs Street Fighter II" would be also a good measure.
@@atsurokihara5525 It's not *open* source, but the source code has been reverse-engineered for anyone to tinker with.
@@kokorikopi DOOM's source code was released under the GPL.
www.doomworld.com/idgames/source/doomsrc
Hey, I'm Skeletons. It's me Fighting. And welcome to Stop Derek From Derek.
This dumb comment had no business being this funny.
Noo don't stop Derek from Derek D:
Comments like this make me feel like there is still hope.
RedHerronRecords what hope? This world is full of evil terrible people with evil terrible things happening everyday. Sure there is some good things happening everyday, but more bad (especially nowadays).
@@BigSmoke-xh5hi CRAAAWWWLING IIINNN MY SKIIIIIN
THESE WOUUUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEEAAAAUUUL
engineer gaming
Can't wait for Derek to review Sonic on the Game Gear Micro.
F’real, that’s done funny timing.
I just heard here and now about this. Yeah awesome, will buy all 4 and play them exactly once.
This video was actually finished before the GG Mini was announced. Crazy luck!
Micro*
If he doesn't get the 4 pack and thus doesn't get the -wide boy- Sega Big Window I'll be sad
Sega be like: *let's slap this baby on every single console we can*
So basically Skyrim before Skyrim was a thing.
WHY ARE YOU EVERYWHERE I GO I SWEAR IF I SEE YOU AGAIN IM GONNA
Sega, stop slapping babies.
@@Nightmster doom too
And Re4
Could Derek do an unnecessary 3D video using youtube VR so we can experience the 3D?? Imagine a video on weird and unnecessary technology made with weird and unnecessary technology.
BTW
Katsukity used to make capture cards kits (a modded 3DS) that can record the game footage in 3D
He sadly went bankrupt, but you can still buy used systems on ebay or in 3dscapture forum
the sad thing is that I can only found 1 channel in youtube that used the 3D capture and upload it on youtube in 3D
watch?v=_FYq5Fi3DBk
Sad thing is, TH-cam DID used to have a 3D function. I had a 3D Phone (HTC Evo 3D) that had a glasses-less screen similar to the 3DS which supported it. But needless to say, the most recent resurgence of 3D flopped hard and I don't believe TH-cam supports it anymore. And I mean properly supporting 3D displays, not just the red/blue glasses thing.
Suddenly realized that the Sonic IOS port situation is exactly the same as with Super Mario Bros. Deluxe: faithful preservation, modern additions such as a world map, cutscenes and challenges, tons of extra content, and even the sequel game as a bonus; in short, the definitive version of their flagship series’ debut title trapped in an a neglected mobile port.
Don’t know about Derek and Grace but I’d kill for a full screen port
I'd still love to see that 3DS video, even if the 3D is lost in translation. Great video as always, guys!
"I've been doing this a couple of years now" that's an understatement man you've been doing this a long time! Love your content from the hvgn days and love to see where you are now!
"and the future...seems bright"
Well, literally every aspect except Sonic Team themselves ironically enough.
Yeah that is always the sad reality.
No matter how many times they crap the bed they keep being brought back in to do more.
Well, given the new news from SEGA with how Sonic Team is from here on now going to be handling future games with far more dev time since even they are aware of most of their games shortcomings have came from rushed or unfinished development, it might come actually "come to light." I love Sonic Team, so I really hope they benefit from it right for the next game(s).
Awesome video and very uplifting. Wish I had power so I could play some nose sanic.
HEY SONIC ENJOY YOUR FUTURE IT'S GONNA BE GREAT
At least we got the movie, which turned out better than it has any right to be. 🙂
"Sonic is in a pretty good place right now, and the future... Looks bright"
I want to believe that too. It's been a long time since the future looked bright for Sonic.
The hedgehog made me love videogames and care for videogames when I was a little kid. I want him to get better and still be relevant for newer generations :)
The 2010s were fucking bleak for Sonic my dude, with Mania 2 looking so unlikely I don't have high hopes.
@@ALocalClown Colors was good, Generations was great, Mania was amazing. Yeah the franchise had a lot of bad entries, but it wasn't as bad as you make it to be
Look, every few games there'll come one that you'll be interested in. I think there is a magic here that keeps people coming back and I think if you take the bad with a grain of salt and savour the good, you'll be fine.
But Sonic IS in a good place right now. Mania did well, and even if Forces was underwhelming, it wasn't a trainwreck. The IDW comics are absolutely fantastic and the movie did really well! Even Team Sonic Racing is a great kart racer.
So now we just wait and see what the future has for us. Hoping for a Mania sequel, or a S3&K port in the Retro Engine or even a Sonic Adventure remaster/remake. Sonic might remain the butt of internet jokes for years to come, maybe rightfully so, but every time I think Sonic just can't recover, there comes a game that makes me remember that there is a reason this blue idiot endures.
@@txcforever yeah but theres still lost world boom and forces
Why are bad games still happening doesnt sega know that this is hurting more then it can ever recover? I mean so many people now is saying that sony was allways bad or that it was allways doomed to fail and its all segas fault
If they keep it in 2D, then the future is bright. If they try again another 3D, we will have more of the same.
Compared with Mario, Sonic still didn't found his formula for the upgrade to 3D.
Will it really translate great in 3D? They have to find "that thing" that is still missing.
The 3D one that I really enjoyed was Sonic Generations, and even that one still being good, it isn't as the original ones (Sonic 1, CD, 2, 3, Knuckles) and Sonic Mania was.
Anyone remember the weird iPod Nano Sonic the Hedgehog port?
Yup. It worked on the bigger iPod Classic too! There was also a Java version on the phone. I would love Derek to review all the crazy Java ports of classic games.
Yes, my friend had it. I remember it being really difficult to play as it was on a nano gen 5, the one with the portrait screen, and the game was displayed horizontally so you either had to play one handed or with both hands on one side of the screen.
I mentioned this on the last video too! I was really hoping he would mention it in this one
I played the hell out of that java port. Good times.
yep had it on ipod video
Feel like we are getting rewarded by back to back videos! Highlight of the day :D
After sonic origins was announced I figured it was a great time to revisit the sonic port episodes of ssff, & it sounds like origins is going to be the true definitive port with the phone ports finally coming to other platforms (especially steam), the drop dash coming to these ports like the ages ports of 1&2, & 3 & knuckles finally getting some long awaited love. it would be cool for derek to revisit the topic of classic sonic ports with regards to 2, & 3nknux
Well that sank like a rock... or rather, like a hedgehog
@@Chipmunkboy well, I wasn't entirely wrong, it does include the drop dash & stuff, just need mods to bring back the good osts
"AND THEY DON'T COMING, AND THEY DONT STOP COMING, AND THEY DON'T COMING, AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING "
AND THEY DON'T COMING, AND THEY DONT STOP COMING, AND THEY DON'T COMING, AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING
Uhhhh, meow?
*AND THEY DONT STOP COMING*
WOW
I never knew Yuzo Koshiro actually helped develop the 8-bit ports! That's actually incredible!
Also, the Streets Of Rage 1, 2 and 3 OSTs are available on Spotify now
Derek. I love you guys. Thanks for doing what you do and thanks for bringing a little joy into this crazy world.
These two videos have been some of my favorites I've seen from y'all so I'd love to see more videos talking about games that have this many ports.
Mentioning Max Payne's gba port until Derek acknowledges its existence (like seriously play the original PC release and then play GBA version)
I loved the video and am so glad you gave Sonic such nice representation here. I am overjoyed with the respect you show and the video was so interesting!
The Drop Dash was in the Sonic 3 Prototype :)
I bet your bottom dollar that's where Whitehead got it from
Not Drop Dash
Whitehead probably would have mentioned the S3 "Drop Dash"
@@flyforce16 someone asked him on Twitter, he said its a coincidence
@@gamingnubs7628 I saw that too, but personally believe (no hard evidence to support this, mind you) that Whitehead is under a non-disclosure agreement with Sega to not talk about Sonic prototypes. Whitehead also put the UFOs back in Marble Zone in the 2013 Sonic 1 mobile remaster (with debug mode activated), and I believe that he got those beta assets from Sega.
@@flyforce16 the beta assets were just given to him by sega though. Remember how the Sonic CD remaster revealed the scrapped R2 boss? Why would Whitehead reveal something as huge as THE R2 BOSS AND ENEMIES, but not a small scrapped move.
Love your videos Derek
4:00: so you're saying if I were to buy a bunch of PAL copies and then attach my own UPC sticker to it I could make a bunch of quick money?
The switch port has the arcade? Looks like I’m buying sonic 1 for the 10 thousandth time
In like 2070 S1 will be ported to bathrooms
@@gamingnubs7628 with Skyrim!
Minor correction, sorry if it's already been pointed out! TL;DR M2 were talking about their "GigaDrive" MegaDr...I mean _Genesis_ emulation architecture, and needing to add extra VRAM to that _emulated hardware._ They weren't necessarily implying that they were pushing the 3DS to its limits, they were probably far from it. Besides, we all know the true limit of the 3DS was being able to render 4 (8) Ice Climbers simultaneously in Smash Bros!
All joking aside, they upgraded _their emulated Genesis_ the same way the NAOMI upgraded the Dreamcast's VRAM by doubling it, or the Sega Chihiro could use more than the 64 MB RAM of the XBOX it was based on. Can you imagine if the 3DS was able to do all it did with only 64K VRAM? The _Genesis_ only had 64K of VRAM, so they hacked their emulated Genesis to run as if it had 128K VRAM. It makes a lot of sense when you consider they basically doubled up on everything in the background with a copy being rendered for each eye.
I was originally going to compare the GameCube to the Triforce but that's reportedly just a retail DOL-001 mainboard with all the extra arcade bits tacked onto it. The Chihiro _sometimes_ added extra RAM to the original XBOX, and you can actually play the Chihiro games that required 128MB RAM like Virtua Cop 3 if you've got an original developer "XDK" system. If you are certifiably insane and equally skilled, you can solder an extra 64MB RAM into an original XBOX and it will run those Chihiro games with little fuss! I had to look it up again to make sure, but the OG XBOX (and the Chihiro by extension) actually had a unified memory architecture. Kind of neat for 2001, although a bit ahead of its time.
This is why I love this channel. I always learn something crazy and new.
When you lost your rings in 8-bit sonic it let you recollect one silver ring, rather than no rings at all. It was the first version I ever played so when I played the 16-bit version the ring explosion animation was amazing.
Fantastic video as usual! 💙
Oh and THANKS for the reminder, that i still prefer Sonic SMS over Sonic MD/GEN. ^_^
The SMS version is sooo lovely, i hope you show someday Sonic 2 (SMS) with the exclusive paraglider.
You do realize you're now contractually obligated to talk about Sonic 1 8bit when it comes out on the Game Gear Micro, right?
Keep on doing these. They are fantastic and your enthusiasm is contagious
Derek predicted Sonic Origins here lmao
The question must be asked...
*Which will have more videos, Sonic 1 ports or Doom 1 ports?*
Doom 1, 100%
Just search Doom on Calculator.
Doom, and its not even a question. If there's one game that's been ported over more times than Sonic 1 its Doom 1.
You need to somehow get ahold of the Sonic 1 port on the iPod classic. You played it using the click wheel and the center button had you jump. It was terrible. I played it for hours.
Hey Derek! So good to see you and Producer Grace are healthy and doing well. Thanks for the new episode of “Punching Weight”, you two always make me more interested in a subject when you cover it, and you’ve made me more interested in anything Sonic, than I have been in ages.
This is hands down one of the best channels on YT right now. Keep up the good work!
10:04
Fun fact: the Sega 3D Collectin cover was drawn by Ken Sugimori, one of the artists behind Pokemon!
I thought that Sonic Master System port looked familiar, until you unveiled that it was also the Game Gear version.
I've got some fond memories of that game. One year me and my Dad took a trip up to Oregon from California to retrieve my grandmother's car (I think my Dad was going to sell it for some reason). We met up with her and other family members, and I forget how, but I ended up with a Gamegear and Sonic, Streets of Rage 2, and Columns. The whole drive back I played it, the backlit screen helping me see in the night time hours on the road. I must have had a stash of batteries or a car inverter, because I don't remember running out of juice.
12:30 That background music feels like Sonic 1 done Animal Crossing style. I like it!
Just wanted to drop in and tell you that you are doing a great job. 'm a recent subscriber and you are up there with The Metal Jesus in terms of awesome game collectors. Thank you so much.
The Rocket Knight Adventures box in the background on top of the Sonic games... Classy! :)
The drop dash didn't originate from Sonic Mania, it was intended to be in Sonic 3 but Sonic Team decided against it in favour for the insta shield. This was discovered in the Sonic 3 prototype.
*supposedly
It wasn't officially confirmed but it's very likely
Thanks Uncle Derek for that all the Sonic content. It’s really interesting!
I’m on the “release the iOS Whitehead remakes of 1, 2 and CD on console already” camp. It’s not like the original Sonic 1 is in dire need of preserving, anyway. There are a LOT of Mega Drive (sorry, Brazilian here) collections with the original available on every system. And the best version is hostage on iOS, with no way to play it comfortable, with a controller, on a big screen, without a lot of tinkering.
The best way to play it on the TV at the moment is via an Amazon Fire TV Stick and a bluetooth controller - but I agree, it needs to be released on everything.
The Whitehead version of CD is actually already re,eased on consoles. Has been for years.
Don't be sorry! I'm from Argentina and I'll always call it the Mega Drive. South America loved that console and the Master System and will never let them die
I use Android, but I see your point. If you want the console experience, buy the Android version from Google Play using BlueStacks (an Android emulator for PC) and configure a Bluetooth controller. Even if your computer doesn't have HDMI out, adapters are easy to find and a lot of them also plug into the headphone jack to give you audio on your TV.
you can play it on Nvidia Shield TV no problems, and its amazing. Well any android TV box works too.
YEAH the second part of Sonic The Hedgehog ports! You are great Uncle Derek!
Derek, where’d you get that shirt? I neeeeed it.
I googled Fu this but here is the link:
www.teepublic.com/user/juhshin
Good to know that people learn learn about Sonic 1 8bit. That game was really underappreciated.
*Sees shirt*
“S’awwwwwnic!”
Nice video! I have some good childhood memories of Sonic 8-bit and other Master System titles. Although at the time I was disappointed that I couldn't play the latest Mega Drive entries (I mean, I said I wanted a Sega machine, how were my generous and well-meaning grandparents to know the difference?), stuff like Sonic 8-bit and Sonic Chaos and Batman Returns and Master of Darkness would probably have completely passed me by otherwise, so I'm glad I got to experience them when I did.
2:00 My first Sonic game was Advanced 1, so when I went back to Sonic 1 andd didn't have a spin dash I fumbled through the manual to see if there was something I had missed. The manual said Sonic could perform a "spin dash" but that was just what it called the action of running forward and pressing down, making Sonic roll into a ball.
My first Sonic game was Sonic 2. When I played Sonic 1 I felt like I was playing an archaic version of sonic. I didn't play Sonic 2 for the speed. I always went for the rings. Tried to collect them all. Still do, actually. Even so, Sonic 1 felt old when I played it. If my first experience were with the advance series, I certainly would feel like going to the prehistory of gaming when playing Sonic 1.
We love you, Derek!
"GAME COLLECTING IS DUMB". You are so right, that made me literally laugh out loud.
Sonic 1 for the Master System was my first video game ever. I love that game so much still to this day, it's really fun!
I have both the 3DS and Switch versions of Sonic 1 and I didn't know how hard it was to make the 3DS one. That's *ahem* way past cool!
Man THANK YOU DEREK ALEXANDER!!
Just make the 3D Punching Weight! I don't watch your videos for 3D I watch it to learn new things, you're entertaining and the effort you put in your videos.
Sonic 8 bits ost was fire
2:16: Glad this video highlighted the music from Bridge Zone in Sonic 1 8-bit, and I also really love that stage's impressionistic backgrounds. 🔥👏 I pray that level gets reimagined in Sonic Mania 2.
I had a colleague who was convinced the Master System version of Sonic the Hedgehog came first and the Mega Drive / Genesis version was a port of it.
He would not be told otherwise.
4:14 I actually don't know Yuzo Koshiro from Streets of Rage, but from his work on Etrian Odyssey; his rpg battle themes absolutely slap!
The Game Gear was my first gaming system, and Sonic one of my first games. I remember it fondly, it felt pretty awesome to me. Didn't play the 16bit version until much later so I couldn't miss the few missing details.
Thanks for the fun vid Uncle Derek!
I love seeing any video by you in my sub box.
I know they aren't offcial but theres some cool Homebrew "ports" on tbe Nintendo DS like porta and minecraft among probably more IV never heard of
Bro, clean your 3DS...it's filthy!
I love how Derek (or someone) goes through and likes these comments but doesn't reply to them.
So you know your recommendation was seen....but you won't find out if he followed it.
Well, the Sega Ages do have a "widescreen mode" of sorts, just stretched to TV/Switch screen dimensions. Also, the 8-bit Sonic game got a 3DS Virtual Console-esque release with bonus features like borders and save states, which I have fond memories of playing. It runs great, and you don't need the thicc boi Wide Lens to play.
I got a cheap Game Gear like a year after it was released. I had Columns for it. But I got immediately got a Master Gear Converter and picked up quite a few Master System games new and used for next to nothing in my small town to play on the Game Gear.
Unky Derek! I think a video/series about Resi 4 ports would be up your street. Cover the iOS and 3DS for extra credit, boyo.
And the Zeebo version as well. Actually, I think the Zeebo itself is worth of a Punching Weight episode.
Something I'd like to see is a video about all the bootleg ports of games to 8- and 16-bit consoles, or even just homebrew classic console stuff. I'd love to see what people who know the hardware inside and out are able to do with it.
SSFF keeping me sane during quarantine by telling me about awful Sonic 1 ports? It's more likely than you think.
There was even a version for Old Cellphones. It was Sonic the Hedgehog Java wich was separated in 2 parts, the first time i completed this game was from that version!
You gotta try the 3D on one of the "New 3DS" models, the super-stable 3D is so much of an improvement it makes the original 3DS feel like an unfinished proof-of-concept
The drop dash actually wasn't created by Taxman and Stealth apparently, the leaked prototype of Sonic 3 a month or so ago had the drop dash.
It wouldn't surprise me if Iizuka gave the drop dash idea to the team, recalling its original implementation, but ultimate removal from Sonic 3.
There's one notable missing port -- the iPod Video port. It was a complete remake that used the click wheel to play, and ran at a native 320x240 showing more of the screen than the original Genesis version. I played it over and over on the bus, and it was a treat.
There's also the miserable java ports for j2me phones. They're worth noting, but not worth playing.
In my teen years, I ended up getting the Master System version of Sonic on the Wii Virtual Console because my brother and I didn’t realize it was the “wrong version.” So thats effectively the version I grew up with. Still had a fun time with that version, and of course I’ve played the Genesis version a bunch. Either’s a good time.
The fact about the sonic 2013 ports being exclusive to mobile feels kinda dated after the release of Sonic Origons!
True... but it's still not good
People always bring up Resident Evil 4 and Skyrim for being ported to every console known to man but Sonic 1 never gets brought up. Sonic 1 just sneaks to every console and everyone is just like "Oh, cool. Sonic 1."
honestly i think one port worth mentioning is the DS collection. The fact that the system can run Genesis at all is impressive but Sega even hired the developer responsible by the genesis emulator for the DS
I would love a re-release of the Master System version. That was the one i grew up with. I would love to get a chance to play it again.
6:58 Hmm, never heard of Power Drift before, but I dig the rough polygonal graphics.
As far as I remember, it was supposed to be a loose spinoff of Outrun where instead of driving across beautiful Europe, you drove on tracks that resembled rollercoasters. It's not as fondly remembered or quite as good, but it's still fun. And the music kicks ass.
Will we get a Game Gear Micro punching weight? Boy I hope so. Do it Derek! It's even got a Sonic Port!
You know what games have more complex port histories? Dragon's Lair with 26 ports plus other versions and Lemmings with 29 version excluding multiple fan made ports.
Sonic 8-bit is a surprisingly good entry in the Sonic series. It's an easy game, but I really enjoyed it. Maybe it's the great music.
There were plenty more Master System games released after Sonic 1 here in the UK, we got a MS version of Sonic 2 and a standalone called Sonic Chaos! You should discuss these if you haven't already :)
Love this video/channel and Strafefox's videos are amazing also
I had the Sonic Classic Collection for the DS which included Sonic 1. I'm not sure who handled that port but I remember hating it solely because you had to touch the touch screen to pause the game, it couldn't be done through a button input.
I just wanted to point out that I played a sonic 1 port on mobile phones back in 2004-2005 that was extremely bare bones but had each level.
Side note: There was also a DS collection called Sonic Classic Collection.
Did anybody ever play that Flash version of Sonic Advance that used to be all over the internet? I remember it was on coolmathgames or something like that back in my middle and high school days. It wasn't officially licensed by Sega or anything but it was pretty incredible how smoothly they got it to run for a 2006 Flash game.
Yeah, one thing I never much liked about the SMS / GG is the tinny little sound chip... but Sonic 8-bit had some of the best music on the system, thanks to Yuzo Koshiro. (Same with Shinobi GG because guess who did the music for that too.)
He even managed to make the soundtracks for the Master System versions of the Streets of Rage games sound good. The guy knew what he was doing.
If I had control of Sonic Team, I'd make them do like, Sonic Jam but for the new millenium. Including remastered and improved versions of like, everything up to the Adventure bi-logy. Sonic hasn't done quite so well with "new" content, but improving on old content always seems to get both fans and the mainstream happy.
I guess "relevatory" for Derik is "aethstetic" for me. I simply cannot say that word correctly the first try, no matter how hard I try.
Aesthetic is one of those words that looks far more complicated than it sounds: _"ass theh tick"_
@@alfiehicks1 I'm aware how it's *supposed* to be pronounced. My mouth just wont say it. It always comes out "ath-stetic"
Ah, Koshiro-san. He even guested on the TSA. Now that's cool!
Hey Derek awesome shirt!
A follow up this soon? You shouldn't have, Derek!
Lmao at the Sable shirt being your only Sonic shirt.
Cant get enough of this
Wooot, wooot MORE PORTS!
My head did explode when i downloaded sonic on VC. It played just like i remembered it on the genesis and my 16 year old brain almost couldnt handle it
M2 might be the real deal but they'll never catch up to Taxman and Stealth's accomplishments and that's a hot fact.
Ican't wait for more streams!! hopefully more spooky games :(