This definitely doesn't fall into the "budget" category, but for those looking for an AIO that is more than just an AIO, the HydroShift might be for you! Also, for those looking for extreme budget options, we are looking at the Thermalright ultra cheap AIO very soon!
Jay, find my short showing my computer behind plexiglass, I came up with a method for a dust free PC. TRUE HEPA, with a washable furnace filter from Lowes, carbon filter Amazon, blows 99.99% dust free air up bad through roughly a 5" gap in a shelf that holds the computer, every gap has positive air pressure. If you need more to test it yourself for a video, let me know...
its funny How all of last year I reviewed Thermalright Coolers and Aio's and it's taken all this time for the bigs to actually take notice of thermalright
Libre Hardware monitor is a fork of Open Hardware Monitor.. fyi .. That having said, OHM is more up to date than LHM too 😉👌 Been using OHM for an long time, and it's very versatile and practical .. it's a combo of Open HW monitor and A fan controlled app combined = 2 in ONE 😏👌
It’s not like it’s that much more expensive though. $179 for non-RGB, that’s fairly cheap for one with a screen on it, and not even that much more than any modern 360 aio, obviously you can get older asutek pump design 360 AIOs for around $100-$120, but thats hardly a fair comparison
I purchased the Thermalright Frozen edge 360 AIO for my 14700k and must say they make really decent coolers and it was like just under $60 for a 360 AIO lol. The reason i chose the Frozen edge model over the others they have available was due to the fan's they have installed on them. The fans they put on this cooler are there TL-b12 model which have much better static pressure then there other fans which they include with there other model coolers such as the Frozen Prizm etc with the exception they are non RGB, but honestly much better fans. So if you decide to try out the Thermalright AIO definitely please check out the Frozen Edge model, i would absolutely love to hear your input on it. I truly believe you will be amazed at the performance of this AIO Jay.
Just like most everything else from Lian Li…..quality and functionality are priority one. You get what you pay for whether you asked for it or not, lol. I personally use and fully enjoy all my Lian Li products and always feel that the quality is always worth the price if you have the budget. I just upgraded from a Lian Li o11 Dynamic XL that I have used for years to a Lian Li o11 Dynamic EVO XL and purchased the 900mm riser cable and vertical side mounting kit. This new case is HUGE and with all the mounting options the case still has a ton of space to grow. Everything looks so very clean and neat it is amazing. If they make a 420mm version of this cooler I will save up and hope to find one. It would be amazing in the case. I Love Lian Li!!!! Thanks Jay and crew!
Just an FYI. It actually comes in both black or white, and of course, the black comes with a black hardwarecover. Also, it comes with 3 different fan configurations. There's a cheaper version for $179.99 one.
In Norway i payed aprox 350$ for an Corsair iCUE H150i 360mm RGB ELITE, paired with an i7 14700k, but then i bought a i9 14900f for my lady, and paired it with Lian Li Performance 360 radiator.. and i can see the difference for sure, even if the Lian Li is way cheaper, it performs better.
I did the same and now I am IRATE at Corsair for screwing us out of not being able to uograde the pump to their newer iCue pumps like the VRM fan etc... I knew I should have gone w the Ryujin 3..
I think maybe its due to the pump speed my Corsair H170i capellix 420MM AIO pump speed on Extreme only goes to like 2626 RPM. I think Jay said the one he just showed gores to like 30 something RPM? Unless smaller aio pumps run faster?
They need to put Infinity fans on all of their AIOs. They are the most popular, people just switch them anyway. I've come to realize I have no idea what people consider expensive is.
The TL has infinity mirrors on the sides and same rgb design as the infinity but just with clear hubs, with rad mounted on the top I don't see the hubs anyway but will depend on how high your pc is.
This is the AIO from Lian Li that i like the most ( the only one i like). But i still stay with the Arctic Liquid Freezer. Nothing beat that one, all concidered (performance, noise, warranty, rep).
I really like Lian Li's cooling solutions, especially the fans they're releasing. However, the design of most of the scene on the CPU waterblock screen is giving me major cheap smartwatch vibes. Or something out of a 2000s Winamp skin. Looks really weird, I wouldn't want this on my system.
Agree on the outdated widget looking pre installed designs, but having the ability to screen record 3 minutes of video or upload an mp4 instead of just a gif and then overlay the sensor data and change its font, color and placement on screen and layer additional effects looks really cool.
I agree, I didn't want an LCD screen either, I went for the Arctic Freezer III instead. It just looks nice and sleek. If you really need to monitor your hardware temps that religiously just buy a small desktop mount display screen that you display the HW Monitor stats on.
Hi Jay, Once again, great video! Your content never disappoints. I really appreciate how LianLi has repositioned the tubes/hoses to the middle of the radiator, avoiding the memory sticks. This has always been an eyesore for me, so it’s a welcome change. The software and the capabilities of the small display are impressive as well. I’ve noticed a few other brands adopting a similar design with the radiator tubes positioned in the middle. I think it looks fantastic. Imagine combining this with BTF or Project Zero for hidden tubes-now that would be something! Regarding the price, I feel it should be under $200. However, it’s still more affordable than some brands that charge over $300. Overall, it’s not bad at all. You’ve highlighted everything nicely. It ultimately comes down to what else is available and at what price, as no one wants to overspend in these times. The next big improvement I’m hoping for from motherboard manufacturers is to place the USB and power connectors closer to the CPU, instead of spreading them across the board. A futuristic approach would be a simple optical/fiber connection from the CPU cooler block to the motherboard, requiring only two wires for power. Thanks again, and have a wonderful Sunday evening! Warm regards, Michael. 🤛👍
I honestly would imagine it to be adding more complications and possibilities of a failure rate and leak point. That point the owner of the AIO would be responsible for damages to the computer.
They really should have a fill plug with a warranty void sticker on it. Gives you the option to fill it if needed but not the companies fault if you mess up. Shouldn’t need it filled during the warranty time 🤔
I bought the tl version to match their infinity fans and installed it in a y70 all black build and I love it. Aio tubes just hanging around were always an issue and tying them up wasn't an ideal fix, but with this and a nice little lian li strimer mod I did you see no tubes in my build at all. Not only can you screen capture an image, but screen record 3 minutes of video in mp4 format or upload mp4 videos instead of using gifs.
Amazing, I just bought the tl version for a black y70 touch infinite build that I am slowly piecing together. Did you top mount the aio? Was curious about spacing since the hydroshift is a bit larger than the galahad II.
@d4rthd3solate93 yes top mounted, the case is short but super wide so it fits good, it's far enough in front to clear the side fans though it's corner does sit a bit in front of the top fan but I didn't even notice until just now. If you install a single rear fan it can be mounted a couple inches down to line up nicely I put a 140mm uni fan infinity there. No issues with clearing my eatx motherboard, and with the optional 3rd hose bracket, they come out directly over the pump. And the radiator itself hides perfectly behind the black top trim while the fans are fully visible showing the infinity mirrors and rgb in full glory.
With things working towards invisible cable’s etc., Project Zero, BTF, GPU power directly slotted to board. This video was a nice alternative to other coolers to make it look clean. We shall see if other cooler companies bring out their own method to hide the cooling tubes. Nicely done Jay!
L-Connect is an incredible bit of software! i have three uni fan (inf mirror) connected and running in my system, and i cant stress enough how easy it is to use! From fan curve profiles, to the lighting features. I love it!!
I have the Lian Li Hydroshift 360s AIO and I love it. I have not gone over 87 degrees at 100% load with my 7900x. With my Lian Li Galahad 360 AIO I would hit 95 to maybe 98. I used my AL 120 fans to replace the stock fans.
Lian Li kinda reminds me of what Zalman used to be back in the day. Nice, clean designs, a bit quirky and giving off a general vibe of "premium". I initially used a 240 Galahad Mk I when I built this system around a 12600K and when I upgraded to a 14700KF last year, I changed that to a Galahad II/Trinity 360. Have been / still am very happy with both these coolers. Plus I was *this* close to ordering the 360 AiO from "The Company That Shan't Be Named" and the Trinity popping up at a good price prevented me from doing that... so: Thanks, Lian Li! :D
100% COMPLETELY agree with you! Would much rather they spend money on the cooler itself and things like special coating on metal for minimal corrosion, wear during long, long use. and extra good quality of the pump so it lasts extra long. screen is only unnecessary and something that only makes things expensive that has nothing to do with the performance of the cooler or how good it is
@4:36 Little details like that show Lian Li actually have creatives on they payroll. Love the hardware shroud, and tube combs with clips for wires. Clean AF. This is custom (critical thinking) solutions for the masses. This company wasn't even on my radar 5 years ago... and are now the #1 case builder imo.
The only gripe I have is that I just bought the Lian Li Galahad II LCD 360 version for $209.99 back in April. So this one is $10 cheaper with the same screen and better tube routing. Was not looking to get another AIO, but here we are LOL.
the LCD screen, i dont care for, but the tubing placement is genius... i hate how the tubing is not short or long enough to tuck it away without impeding the view on the RGB iO cover/heat sink cover or the RGB Ram, with most coolers you cant place the tubing so its not in the way. but here they solved that! so they deserve a GOLD medal for that. every brand should have this as an option.
I am using it and overall very happy. I did struggle a little bit with the installation (as I have heard from other reviewers as well) but I got it eventually (the plastic pieces going onto the backing plate were not seated all the way so I know it was my fault but was not clear during the installation). I changed from the Deepcool Mystique 360 since the warranty got cancelled after they got caught by the US government and I did not want to risk it (and I was under the 30 day exchange period with Amazon thank goodness). So I looked around for something similar and purchased the Lian Li mostly for the stealthy look with the hoses (which I do really like). I will say it cools great however when first powering on my machine the fans do get really loud however once into Windows the fans quiet down and are barely noticeable. Interesting not here is the Deepcool (which had a better resolution/larger screen) was much easier to install however when monitoring the pump (using the software) it would occasionally go to 0 rpm and then go back to 2,000 rpm. The Lian Li I have noticed the pump is always showing on so a little weird goings on with the Deepcool (I did not delve into whether it was the software misreporting or the pump was truly shutting off and on again at times). I like the Lian Li software much more. One last thing not mentioned in your video is the size of the radiator and fans. The radiator on this model is 31mm thick along with 28mm thick fans so you need to make sure you have enough room both top to bottom and front to rear (as this just barely fitted into my case length wise since it is a little longer (due to hose routing) than other 360 coolers so your mileage may vary dependent on the case. Thanks for the video.
I use the Corsair Icue H150i Elite Capellix XT 360mm. This one has 3 of the Magnetic Levitation fans with 8 rgbs on each fan. Cost 200 bucks at Best Buy and so far it has worked very well.
Hell Yeah LibreHardwareMonitor Awesome to see it getting some shine. been using it over HWInfo for a long while now. such great & lightweight software.
honestly, im really interested in the higher priced one even. I love the look of the fans and the screen. yup, its expensive, but its still a fraction of the price of a custom loop, which would be the next best thing aesthetically. So really, I'm saving money.
I like Lian Li's stuff, and this is no exception. I have a fairly old Monolith black aluminum full tower case with an (ancient now) 4th gen. Core i7 and an AIO cooler with a 120 mm. radiator. Liquid cooling is almost a must here in the southwest when outside temps can easily go into the triple digits (F). The Asus Z87 board with 32 gb. still runs Windows 10 well with a 6gbps 1 TB. SATA SSD, and a Nvidia GTX 760 GPU. Core temp rarely ever gets over 55C. even under a pretty good load.😉 Unfortunately, the Monolith doesn't have any top fan outlets, and there's really no option to put anything bigger than a 120 mm radiator, even in the front panel. It's a cool piece of Lian Li history though, and it still works like it should!😄
Thanks Jay and team. Love the side tubes. For me, the RGB and the screens have just become annoying at this point. I know I’m on an island here, but money is tight and that stuff just costs money for no good reason.
@@25566 Pretty sure its disrespectful to put the computer case on the floor. yeah let me just spend $1400 on a brand new pc, choose cool looking components just to have it hidden down below on the floor 😂😂
@@Ladioz why choose cool looking components in the first place? you are looking at your screen all day. And does anyone else care if your PC is blinking in stupid colors? No. It's like no one cares which car you drive, the only person thinking that someone cares is you.
Hoses look weird because YOU added the third hose clamp. One of the few aios that have four corner pump to base plate screws. The white wiring coming off the pump sticks out on black mobo (most all). Use black split sleeving to make them disappear and make 1 cable. Your unbox gripe.
There is definitely room for a standard universal controller for internal accessories. I'm thinking usb 1 or 2 would work great, possibly a version with higher power delivery limits. Device identifies itself and what controls it accepts and how to signal desired changes. One simple connector vs each fan+rgb+lcd+pump Not mention let the device worry about whether the fan is pwm or not. I could also understand a connector with the ability to daisy chain up to its power limit to improve the cable situation even more. I'd like a new connector to replace the atx 24pin to something also provide the power that normally is added from an 8 pin or two near the top of the board The one saving grace of the old hdd and floppy connectors is that you usually could do two devices per ribbon. and sometime a single power cable had two molex connectors as well.
I like Lian Li, but their L-Connect caused my memory consumption to spike up occasionally. Took me some time to investigate before I discovered the issue is caused by L-Connect. Everything went back to normal after I uninstalled L-Connect and everything else that comes with L-Connect. In the end I have to switch out the connectors on my unifans to connect the fans to my motherboard fan headers and use Fan Control to control my fan speeds. I am not sure if Lian Li has resolved this as I don't see many people complaining about it, but I am planning on not using anything with L-Connect for my next build. In fact, I will probably try to go for something which doesn't require any proprietary software.
Man i really wish lian li would release standalone versions of the fans on the rgb model. They look so clean. Maybe that will be the next unifan design. I just dont like infinity mirror aesthetic but those are just perfect
Because the point is to hide the tubes as much as possible. Traditional AIOs have tubes that obstruct your RAM. If these were on the left side of the pump, they’d obstruct the mobo’s I/O shroud. On cheaper ones, that’s fine, but on higher end mobos there is often RGB or even a screen on the shroud. The only thing that never lights up is whatever’s covering the VRMs, so having the tubes point upwards hides them most effectively. If it wasn’t clear, this is a “style over substance” purchase. I don’t think the angle will cause problems, but we’ll see!
I tested the Hydroshift rgb model and the Galahad. I got the same cooling numbers. I returned the Galahad, it had a little more rgb on the pump but it takes up 3x usb slots on the motherboard and has a lot more wires. I liked the hydroshift fans better and it has a cleaner look with a lot less wiring.
i like that htis aio tubes can be managed, i think aio's look super cool in builds and can look really really clean, but when you have over sized tubes it kind of takes away from the build love how lian li did this aio (i air cool my cpu, none of this matters)
100% the problem is the longevity and low entry price point of closed loop visavis open loop would eat into their profits, especially if they specialize in cooling like EK.
What for? There is no need for regular maintenance or refilling. If you suggest it to a pc service they start laughing why I would want to refill or replace the cooling liquid. They never ever had to do that for an aio. And even my first one a buddy still uses … after ages of excessive use cooling like on day 1.
@@GanymedeXD do you not understand how evaporation works through the rubber hoses? Take the time to Google before you reply to somebody with your opinion lol. And it would be really nice and make sure that there's no organics or galvanic corrosion going on inside of the closed loop system. You just desperately wanted to have an opinion on something didn't you?
@@GanymedeXD and if you have been running your super hard for years it's probably about time for you to top it up. Most the time you have to take the block off of the CPU and remove the screws on the face. Make sure you don't mess up that rubber. Lift the pump up above the reservoir and have it running while you fill it with whatever is recommended from your manufacturer. I wouldn't be surprised if I was to come over there and pull your system apart you would hear all kinds of crazy sloshing going on in your radiator.
Finally, an AIO that eliminates the question of where to run the tubes. Most people run the AIO with tubes from the front of the case. Right over the ARGB Ram they paid extra for. NO NO NO. Toward rear, they say blocks air flow to rear exhaust fan. BS BS BS. Unless that's only exhaust fan in the case. DUMB.
I’m honestly excited for this. I’m putting this in the Lancool III and it should look pretty awesome. I’m going to pay the $199 for the ARGB version. It’s still way cheaper than the ROG Ryujin and seems like it might perform better so I’d still consider this a good value AIO. One of these days, I will attempt my own custom loop.
On my expensive link i115 Corsair water aio both fans are being RMA and Corsair believes the pump is bad and asked me to RMA that too. My three link Corsair QX fans I bought separately also being RMA. Checking forums the Corsair fans seem to have a high rate of premature failures. Even Corsair acknowledge that. Had this review come just a few months sooner I would have bought it instead. Because price is somewhat similar to what I paid for the link stuff that all broke down with about 3 months of normal use. This AIO looks interesting to me. And appears to have a little better tube management. Something I could have used. Great video!
Thanks Jayz.. Pretty dang decent tube and cable management features on this AIO. I might just upgrade to this from my old MSI MAG Core Liquid C240. Also, with the screen, I could get rid of my (Aida64 sensor panel) 7" touch screen for less clutter in my case. Thanks again.
Nice for a £200 AIO only problem is which you forgot to mention by the way Jay! IT only supports LGA 1700, AM4 and AM5. Does not support previous LGA sockets.
Nice, would have been a contender for me if I had not just bought the h150i plus LCD head. This looks really nice, plus it being Lian Li makes me assume that no strange corners were cut making it.
I'll be interested to see a video of your new hardware monitoring program. Your previous recommendations for programs have been great, that being fan control and signal RGB which I still continue to use both to this day.
I am still waiting for clips to hold the fans to the radiator instead of screws, I just want to be able to pop them on and off to clean in between them fast and easy. You have to take them off because when you hit the radiator with air it sends the dust right into the fan bearings which kills your fans. it's a real problem spot for dust and lint collecting.
I got the 360R Black version for my new 7800X3D/4080S build. My only complaint was that I couldn't swap the LL fans with a set of Phanteks D30 fans. The 360R's screws were too short and the D30's screws were too thick.
Thanks for the info on LibreMonitor, Jay. Much better for me than cpuid's HWMonitor. I retains the last settings on startup! And the LianLi cooler is nice. Been running a Galahad 360 and after a saturation run with Cine 23 I think it's time for come fresh paste (12900k stock running at 95C average over 30 min).
Hate it camp, keep things practical. If I want a temp sensor on the outside of the case its not gonna be on the heatsink, where its useless and visually out of sight but the front of the case where I can actually see it.
What would be nice is if Lian Li put the files online to make the shrouds and stuff with a 3d printer and then you could print them out in any color you wanted ..
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$ 200 is not bad, here in Costa Rica a MSI MAG Coreliquid K240 V2 cost $230, so that 360 AIO from Lian Li is kind of cheap actually, buying it from Amazon with shipping is $300 to get it at my door.
Hey Jay, I've read that silver has the highest thermal conductivity, making it the best metal for heat transfer. When do you think we'll see silver cold plate for water cooling? I know it's expensive but would this be something that would allow more efficient cooling or maybe it could be used for professional XOC. Thoughts???
theres also an S version that uses dark fans for about £150 ($200) here in the uk the TL version that use the infinity fans for about £220 ($295) and the R version is around £170 ($225).
What brands of water cooling products do you recommend? When is it a good idea to go from an AIO to custom water cooled? When is it a good point to go from an air cooled GPU to water cooled? First water cooling build, I like the idea of a custom because more things to learn and try out than just slapping in a part. Trying to find a water block to fit a 4070 ti Super kind of sucks.
With CPU's its really a case of - is your CPU throttling in a noticeable way? If you have a high core count chip and you are doing heavy production work, then an AIO will likely give you a bit better performance and also likely a quieter experience - if you are just gaming and browsing tinternet then any decent air cooler will do the job. For GPU its all about hunting those higher FPS - do you want to squeeze a few extra FPS out that you feel the current cooling isn't letting you hit. These are the practical reasons - but thats not the only reason you go water, particularly if you go custom loop. It's gonna cost you a chunk of money - its not really cost effective vs other solutions, but it can be a very satisfying thing to build for yourself and that is why a lot of people do it - it's something semi unique to you and once you have it made, in theory you can re-use it for several future builds/upgrades.
the only issue I had with this AIO is that this feature of "hidden" tubes is not compatible with some cases, like the Phanteks NV7, the AIO seems to perform very well and all
Maybe u can add Equilibrium, time to reach, parameter when comparing same hardware with new aio's or we. Maybe more my curiosity if thats some indicator of overall quality or we.
I am too scared to do a custom loop so for me I would go for the AIO that will give me the best cooling. Things like screens and covers for the mount are at the bottom of my list. I do like the tubes coming from the side gives a nice clean look
If I were building a new PC and using an AIO I would probably be giving this a serious look. I hate aio cables going everywhere. I would get the black version not the white, and if I were doing the UNI fan thing everywhere else I would probably upgrade that too. That said... I do custom loops these days so lol. I would advise it to others assuming they would see the value, many people building pc's sadly don't care about performance (other than the graphics card) or having a clean look though.
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This definitely doesn't fall into the "budget" category, but for those looking for an AIO that is more than just an AIO, the HydroShift might be for you! Also, for those looking for extreme budget options, we are looking at the Thermalright ultra cheap AIO very soon!
Jay, find my short showing my computer behind plexiglass, I came up with a method for a dust free PC. TRUE HEPA, with a washable furnace filter from Lowes, carbon filter Amazon, blows 99.99% dust free air up bad through roughly a 5" gap in a shelf that holds the computer, every gap has positive air pressure. If you need more to test it yourself for a video, let me know...
its funny How all of last year I reviewed Thermalright Coolers and Aio's and it's taken all this time for the bigs to actually take notice of thermalright
Libre Hardware monitor is a fork of Open Hardware Monitor.. fyi ..
That having said, OHM is more up to date than LHM too 😉👌
Been using OHM for an long time, and it's very versatile and practical .. it's a combo of Open HW monitor and A fan controlled app combined = 2 in ONE 😏👌
It’s not like it’s that much more expensive though. $179 for non-RGB, that’s fairly cheap for one with a screen on it, and not even that much more than any modern 360 aio, obviously you can get older asutek pump design 360 AIOs for around $100-$120, but thats hardly a fair comparison
I purchased the Thermalright Frozen edge 360 AIO for my 14700k and must say they make really decent coolers and it was like just under $60 for a 360 AIO lol. The reason i chose the Frozen edge model over the others they have available was due to the fan's they have installed on them. The fans they put on this cooler are there TL-b12 model which have much better static pressure then there other fans which they include with there other model coolers such as the Frozen Prizm etc with the exception they are non RGB, but honestly much better fans. So if you decide to try out the Thermalright AIO definitely please check out the Frozen Edge model, i would absolutely love to hear your input on it. I truly believe you will be amazed at the performance of this AIO Jay.
Just like most everything else from Lian Li…..quality and functionality are priority one. You get what you pay for whether you asked for it or not, lol. I personally use and fully enjoy all my Lian Li products and always feel that the quality is always worth the price if you have the budget. I just upgraded from a Lian Li o11 Dynamic XL that I have used for years to a Lian Li o11 Dynamic EVO XL and purchased the 900mm riser cable and vertical side mounting kit. This new case is HUGE and with all the mounting options the case still has a ton of space to grow. Everything looks so very clean and neat it is amazing. If they make a 420mm version of this cooler I will save up and hope to find one. It would be amazing in the case. I Love Lian Li!!!!
Thanks Jay and crew!
LianLi = always premium price, but mostly innovative. That has a price.
The real test of any new AIO nowadays is "can it cool the 13900k or 14900k"
U must be insane to buy i9 now 😁
@DirtRider999 heard about the stability issue in 13 and 14 gen cpu
have you experienced any?
@DirtRider999 Me too! I love it! 😁
@@dragoonxgamerdo your eyes not work or did you miss the part where he said he’s had no issues?
@DirtRider999 I have a 13500...got her March 2023 and she's been treating me good ever since.
Just an FYI. It actually comes in both black or white, and of course, the black comes with a black hardwarecover. Also, it comes with 3 different fan configurations. There's a cheaper version for $179.99 one.
The thing being $200 is not quite as bad as I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be $250+.
For real the NZXT one is over $200
You gotta add iCUE to the name to make it $250+
I agree, my original corsair AIO costed almost 300 where i live
@@Rosa_AI Gotta pay 300 then also download a resource hoarding software
we can all thank arctic for bringing AIO prices down.. $110 and outperforms everything
In Norway i payed aprox 350$ for an Corsair iCUE H150i 360mm RGB ELITE, paired with an i7 14700k, but then i bought a i9 14900f for my lady, and paired it with Lian Li Performance 360 radiator.. and i can see the difference for sure, even if the Lian Li is way cheaper, it performs better.
I did the same and now I am IRATE at Corsair for screwing us out of not being able to uograde the pump to their newer iCue pumps like the VRM fan etc... I knew I should have gone w the Ryujin 3..
I think maybe its due to the pump speed my Corsair H170i capellix 420MM AIO pump speed on Extreme only goes to like 2626 RPM. I think Jay said the one he just showed gores to like 30 something RPM? Unless smaller aio pumps run faster?
My h100i died in about 4 years.. My corsair k70 leds died twice, once in rma, then out of warranty... I seriously don't know how they survive
@@vivekvs1992 My H100i GT, is from 2016, and still lives.
even held on to my i9 9900k that i swapped out 3 months ago
Prices for this cooler aren't bad either. 2500 on Proshop
They need to put Infinity fans on all of their AIOs. They are the most popular, people just switch them anyway. I've come to realize I have no idea what people consider expensive is.
Yeah... The only reason I am going with the galahad is cause it has the inf fans...
3 fans are 90€ that is indeed very expensive for 3 fans although they're good
The TL has infinity mirrors on the sides and same rgb design as the infinity but just with clear hubs, with rad mounted on the top I don't see the hubs anyway but will depend on how high your pc is.
Since Biden got in office I consider everything expensive
That's why my brother got the version of this AIO with the Uni Inf TL fans
This is the AIO from Lian Li that i like the most ( the only one i like). But i still stay with the Arctic Liquid Freezer. Nothing beat that one, all concidered (performance, noise, warranty, rep).
I really like Lian Li's cooling solutions, especially the fans they're releasing. However, the design of most of the scene on the CPU waterblock screen is giving me major cheap smartwatch vibes. Or something out of a 2000s Winamp skin. Looks really weird, I wouldn't want this on my system.
Agree on the outdated widget looking pre installed designs, but having the ability to screen record 3 minutes of video or upload an mp4 instead of just a gif and then overlay the sensor data and change its font, color and placement on screen and layer additional effects looks really cool.
I agree, I didn't want an LCD screen either, I went for the Arctic Freezer III instead. It just looks nice and sleek. If you really need to monitor your hardware temps that religiously just buy a small desktop mount display screen that you display the HW Monitor stats on.
I use their AIOs, but I have never used their fans as they are immediate replaced with Noctua fans
But unlike Winamp it doesn't whip the llama's ass.
Hi Jay,
Once again, great video! Your content never disappoints. I really appreciate how LianLi has repositioned the tubes/hoses to the middle of the radiator, avoiding the memory sticks. This has always been an eyesore for me, so it’s a welcome change.
The software and the capabilities of the small display are impressive as well.
I’ve noticed a few other brands adopting a similar design with the radiator tubes positioned in the middle. I think it looks fantastic. Imagine combining this with BTF or Project Zero for hidden tubes-now that would be something!
Regarding the price, I feel it should be under $200. However, it’s still more affordable than some brands that charge over $300.
Overall, it’s not bad at all. You’ve highlighted everything nicely. It ultimately comes down to what else is available and at what price, as no one wants to overspend in these times.
The next big improvement I’m hoping for from motherboard manufacturers is to place the USB and power connectors closer to the CPU, instead of spreading them across the board. A futuristic approach would be a simple optical/fiber connection from the CPU cooler block to the motherboard, requiring only two wires for power.
Thanks again, and have a wonderful Sunday evening!
Warm regards, Michael. 🤛👍
Why can't anyone just add a fill port to radiator it can't be that hard to put a blanking plug that can be unscrewed to refill or clean
My waterforce 360x has a fill/drain port on the radiator and I know it's not the only one
I honestly would imagine it to be adding more complications and possibilities of a failure rate and leak point. That point the owner of the AIO would be responsible for damages to the computer.
I'm considering looking into what it would take to modify one thusly.
Yea enermax has one too for like 120 for a 360
They really should have a fill plug with a warranty void sticker on it. Gives you the option to fill it if needed but not the companies fault if you mess up. Shouldn’t need it filled during the warranty time 🤔
I bought the tl version to match their infinity fans and installed it in a y70 all black build and I love it. Aio tubes just hanging around were always an issue and tying them up wasn't an ideal fix, but with this and a nice little lian li strimer mod I did you see no tubes in my build at all.
Not only can you screen capture an image, but screen record 3 minutes of video in mp4 format or upload mp4 videos instead of using gifs.
Amazing, I just bought the tl version for a black y70 touch infinite build that I am slowly piecing together. Did you top mount the aio? Was curious about spacing since the hydroshift is a bit larger than the galahad II.
@d4rthd3solate93 yes top mounted, the case is short but super wide so it fits good, it's far enough in front to clear the side fans though it's corner does sit a bit in front of the top fan but I didn't even notice until just now. If you install a single rear fan it can be mounted a couple inches down to line up nicely I put a 140mm uni fan infinity there. No issues with clearing my eatx motherboard, and with the optional 3rd hose bracket, they come out directly over the pump.
And the radiator itself hides perfectly behind the black top trim while the fans are fully visible showing the infinity mirrors and rgb in full glory.
@@o0Silverwolf0o Nice, yah I plan to do a single 140 in the back as well. Thanks for the info, I appreciate the reply!
With things working towards invisible cable’s etc., Project Zero, BTF, GPU power directly slotted to board. This video was a nice alternative to other coolers to make it look clean. We shall see if other cooler companies bring out their own method to hide the cooling tubes.
Nicely done Jay!
L-Connect is an incredible bit of software! i have three uni fan (inf mirror) connected and running in my system, and i cant stress enough how easy it is to use! From fan curve profiles, to the lighting features. I love it!!
If you can get it running … usually it interferes with other software …
tbf the corsair link aio is $225 currently on Amazon, so I was expecting higher for this one. Not bad.
I have the Lian Li Hydroshift 360s AIO and I love it. I have not gone over 87 degrees at 100% load with my 7900x. With my Lian Li Galahad 360 AIO I would hit 95 to maybe 98. I used my AL 120 fans to replace the stock fans.
I really want a 240 version of this cause it looks great
I need 420 version
I pulled the HYTE Thicc out and replaced it with this and much much happier. It looks a lot better and it cools great on my 7800X3D
I didn't expect to be glad about an ad today, now i know i have 2 choices for 3310 sized SSDs
The new graphs look great, its nice to see the difference between the fan settings on the same graph.
I don't think $200 is a lot for a 360 aio with a screen, TBH I think it's on the cheaper side
@@P5YKOTIK1870 I paid $114 for DeepCool Mystique 360 aio with a LCD screen. Better deals are out there.
Lian Li kinda reminds me of what Zalman used to be back in the day. Nice, clean designs, a bit quirky and giving off a general vibe of "premium". I initially used a 240 Galahad Mk I when I built this system around a 12600K and when I upgraded to a 14700KF last year, I changed that to a Galahad II/Trinity 360. Have been / still am very happy with both these coolers. Plus I was *this* close to ordering the 360 AiO from "The Company That Shan't Be Named" and the Trinity popping up at a good price prevented me from doing that... so: Thanks, Lian Li! :D
100% COMPLETELY agree with you! Would much rather they spend money on the cooler itself and things like special coating on metal for minimal corrosion, wear during long, long use. and extra good quality of the pump so it lasts extra long.
screen is only unnecessary and something that only makes things expensive that has nothing to do with the performance of the cooler or how good it is
@4:36
Little details like that show Lian Li actually have creatives on they payroll.
Love the hardware shroud, and tube combs with clips for wires. Clean AF. This is custom (critical thinking) solutions for the masses.
This company wasn't even on my radar 5 years ago... and are now the #1 case builder imo.
The only gripe I have is that I just bought the Lian Li Galahad II LCD 360 version for $209.99 back in April. So this one is $10 cheaper with the same screen and better tube routing. Was not looking to get another AIO, but here we are LOL.
That’s my debate right now too that and a black aio to go with my black case.
It looks much better without the tube routing. Happy with the optics of free tubing of others like my kraken.
Well... this inspired me to zip tie tubes of my AIO up next to MB, it looks awesome, i hope nothing breaks or leaks...
the LCD screen, i dont care for, but the tubing placement is genius... i hate how the tubing is not short or long enough to tuck it away without impeding the view on the RGB iO cover/heat sink cover or the RGB Ram, with most coolers you cant place the tubing so its not in the way. but here they solved that!
so they deserve a GOLD medal for that.
every brand should have this as an option.
The tube management for me is useless … never had problems with that and looks way better with visible tubes.
I am using it and overall very happy. I did struggle a little bit with the installation (as I have heard from other reviewers as well) but I got it eventually (the plastic pieces going onto the backing plate were not seated all the way so I know it was my fault but was not clear during the installation). I changed from the Deepcool Mystique 360 since the warranty got cancelled after they got caught by the US government and I did not want to risk it (and I was under the 30 day exchange period with Amazon thank goodness). So I looked around for something similar and purchased the Lian Li mostly for the stealthy look with the hoses (which I do really like). I will say it cools great however when first powering on my machine the fans do get really loud however once into Windows the fans quiet down and are barely noticeable. Interesting not here is the Deepcool (which had a better resolution/larger screen) was much easier to install however when monitoring the pump (using the software) it would occasionally go to 0 rpm and then go back to 2,000 rpm. The Lian Li I have noticed the pump is always showing on so a little weird goings on with the Deepcool (I did not delve into whether it was the software misreporting or the pump was truly shutting off and on again at times). I like the Lian Li software much more. One last thing not mentioned in your video is the size of the radiator and fans. The radiator on this model is 31mm thick along with 28mm thick fans so you need to make sure you have enough room both top to bottom and front to rear (as this just barely fitted into my case length wise since it is a little longer (due to hose routing) than other 360 coolers so your mileage may vary dependent on the case. Thanks for the video.
I use the Corsair Icue H150i Elite Capellix XT 360mm. This one has 3 of the Magnetic Levitation fans with 8 rgbs on each fan. Cost 200 bucks at Best Buy and so far it has worked very well.
Hell Yeah LibreHardwareMonitor
Awesome to see it getting some shine. been using it over HWInfo for a long while now. such great & lightweight software.
honestly, im really interested in the higher priced one even. I love the look of the fans and the screen. yup, its expensive, but its still a fraction of the price of a custom loop, which would be the next best thing aesthetically. So really, I'm saving money.
Been using Libre Hardware Monitor for years. Configurable widget (as many/few items you need) on your desktop . Also you can control fan speeds! Nice!
Hey, I noticed you're triceps, seems like you're on the mend. Glad to see things are still improving.
I'm liking my Alphacool Eisbaer Aurora Pro. All of the parts are swappable in it, so I put a thick full-copper 240mm radiator on it.
I like Lian Li's stuff, and this is no exception. I have a fairly old Monolith black aluminum full tower case with an (ancient now) 4th gen. Core i7 and an AIO cooler with a 120 mm. radiator. Liquid cooling is almost a must here in the southwest when outside temps can easily go into the triple digits (F). The Asus Z87 board with 32 gb. still runs Windows 10 well with a 6gbps 1 TB. SATA SSD, and a Nvidia GTX 760 GPU. Core temp rarely ever gets over 55C. even under a pretty good load.😉 Unfortunately, the Monolith doesn't have any top fan outlets, and there's really no option to put anything bigger than a 120 mm radiator, even in the front panel. It's a cool piece of Lian Li history though, and it still works like it should!😄
Got one, its awesome! Hydroshift 360 TL needs an 8 pin power cable extension for the PSU.
Thanks Jay and team. Love the side tubes. For me, the RGB and the screens have just become annoying at this point. I know I’m on an island here, but money is tight and that stuff just costs money for no good reason.
Especially for those of us that keep the case on the floor
@@25566 Pretty sure its disrespectful to put the computer case on the floor. yeah let me just spend $1400 on a brand new pc, choose cool looking components just to have it hidden down below on the floor 😂😂
Too many grey profile pictures
@@Ladioz why choose cool looking components in the first place? you are looking at your screen all day. And does anyone else care if your PC is blinking in stupid colors? No. It's like no one cares which car you drive, the only person thinking that someone cares is you.
@@TheNerdyou must not be a PC Enthusiast
@12:42
If you're gonna put a screen on the Aio, make sure it has good software and versatility. Double check.
Well done Lian Li
That's a really nice looking unit. When you were showing the screen I was thinking "it needs navy Jay", and BOOM there he was!
Doing a build with this AIO this weekend. Looks like I made a good choice
Hoses look weird because YOU added the third hose clamp. One of the few aios that have four corner pump to base plate screws. The white wiring coming off the pump sticks out on black mobo (most all). Use black split sleeving to make them disappear and make 1 cable. Your unbox gripe.
7:57 yes please Jay/Team as be interesting to compare HW monitor to another similar product.
That cooler install looks very clean, I'd probably go with the black version in my system. I'm currently running a 360 Cooler Master AIO on my Ryzen9.
There is definitely room for a standard universal controller for internal accessories. I'm thinking usb 1 or 2 would work great, possibly a version with higher power delivery limits. Device identifies itself and what controls it accepts and how to signal desired changes. One simple connector vs each fan+rgb+lcd+pump Not mention let the device worry about whether the fan is pwm or not. I could also understand a connector with the ability to daisy chain up to its power limit to improve the cable situation even more. I'd like a new connector to replace the atx 24pin to something also provide the power that normally is added from an 8 pin or two near the top of the board The one saving grace of the old hdd and floppy connectors is that you usually could do two devices per ribbon. and sometime a single power cable had two molex connectors as well.
I like Lian Li, but their L-Connect caused my memory consumption to spike up occasionally. Took me some time to investigate before I discovered the issue is caused by L-Connect. Everything went back to normal after I uninstalled L-Connect and everything else that comes with L-Connect. In the end I have to switch out the connectors on my unifans to connect the fans to my motherboard fan headers and use Fan Control to control my fan speeds. I am not sure if Lian Li has resolved this as I don't see many people complaining about it, but I am planning on not using anything with L-Connect for my next build. In fact, I will probably try to go for something which doesn't require any proprietary software.
Another great video. I really love the new things coming out. Also it would be great to see a video on the libre hardware monitor please.
Man i really wish lian li would release standalone versions of the fans on the rgb model. They look so clean. Maybe that will be the next unifan design. I just dont like infinity mirror aesthetic but those are just perfect
Well waddya know, something different. That's refreshing. Good to know these brands are still capable of innovating.
I just put one in my new build. I absolutely love it
Since the screen rotates on the pump through the software, why not rotate the pump 90° so that the lines (are on left side) & aren't so stressed?
Because the point is to hide the tubes as much as possible. Traditional AIOs have tubes that obstruct your RAM. If these were on the left side of the pump, they’d obstruct the mobo’s I/O shroud. On cheaper ones, that’s fine, but on higher end mobos there is often RGB or even a screen on the shroud. The only thing that never lights up is whatever’s covering the VRMs, so having the tubes point upwards hides them most effectively.
If it wasn’t clear, this is a “style over substance” purchase. I don’t think the angle will cause problems, but we’ll see!
I tested the Hydroshift rgb model and the Galahad. I got the same cooling numbers. I returned the Galahad, it had a little more rgb on the pump but it takes up 3x usb slots on the motherboard and has a lot more wires. I liked the hydroshift fans better and it has a cleaner look with a lot less wiring.
i like that htis aio tubes can be managed, i think aio's look super cool in builds and can look really really clean, but when you have over sized tubes it kind of takes away from the build love how lian li did this aio (i air cool my cpu, none of this matters)
I wish all aio's going forward would have some type of ball valve or fill port for topping them off and swapping out the fluid.
100% the problem is the longevity and low entry price point of closed loop visavis open loop would eat into their profits, especially if they specialize in cooling like EK.
What for? There is no need for regular maintenance or refilling. If you suggest it to a pc service they start laughing why I would want to refill or replace the cooling liquid. They never ever had to do that for an aio. And even my first one a buddy still uses … after ages of excessive use cooling like on day 1.
@@GanymedeXD do you not understand how evaporation works through the rubber hoses? Take the time to Google before you reply to somebody with your opinion lol. And it would be really nice and make sure that there's no organics or galvanic corrosion going on inside of the closed loop system. You just desperately wanted to have an opinion on something didn't you?
@@GanymedeXD and if you have been running your super hard for years it's probably about time for you to top it up. Most the time you have to take the block off of the CPU and remove the screws on the face. Make sure you don't mess up that rubber. Lift the pump up above the reservoir and have it running while you fill it with whatever is recommended from your manufacturer. I wouldn't be surprised if I was to come over there and pull your system apart you would hear all kinds of crazy sloshing going on in your radiator.
I can't help but smile every time Jay says "TOOBS" 😆
Finally, an AIO that eliminates the question of where to run the tubes. Most people run the AIO with tubes from the front of the case. Right over the ARGB Ram they paid extra for. NO NO NO. Toward rear, they say blocks air flow to rear exhaust fan. BS BS BS. Unless that's only exhaust fan in the case. DUMB.
I got me the TL version...very nice indeed. Price is a non-issue, if ya want it, ya gotta pay for it.
I’m honestly excited for this. I’m putting this in the Lancool III and it should look pretty awesome. I’m going to pay the $199 for the ARGB version. It’s still way cheaper than the ROG Ryujin and seems like it might perform better so I’d still consider this a good value AIO.
One of these days, I will attempt my own custom loop.
On my expensive link i115 Corsair water aio both fans are being RMA and Corsair believes the pump is bad and asked me to RMA that too. My three link Corsair QX fans I bought separately also being RMA. Checking forums the Corsair fans seem to have a high rate of premature failures. Even Corsair acknowledge that.
Had this review come just a few months sooner I would have bought it instead. Because price is somewhat similar to what I paid for the link stuff that all broke down with about 3 months of normal use.
This AIO looks interesting to me. And appears to have a little better tube management. Something I could have used.
Great video!
Thanks Jayz.. Pretty dang decent tube and cable management features on this AIO. I might just upgrade to this from my old MSI MAG Core Liquid C240. Also, with the screen, I could get rid of my (Aida64 sensor panel) 7" touch screen for less clutter in my case. Thanks again.
Nice for a £200 AIO only problem is which you forgot to mention by the way Jay! IT only supports LGA 1700, AM4 and AM5. Does not support previous LGA sockets.
Not a AIO person, but this one looks sharp and would be in the running if i ever switch from air cooled.
That's a pretty clean setup. I was expecting more thsn $199 to be honest. Would like an option without the display though
Love this aio, saving for future build
Second time Jay rethinks a LianLi product review over xD, love how this happens
I got the same AIO for my lian li 216 case and looks great!
much
Nice, would have been a contender for me if I had not just bought the h150i plus LCD head. This looks really nice, plus it being Lian Li makes me assume that no strange corners were cut making it.
I'll be interested to see a video of your new hardware monitoring program. Your previous recommendations for programs have been great, that being fan control and signal RGB which I still continue to use both to this day.
I am still waiting for clips to hold the fans to the radiator instead of screws, I just want to be able to pop them on and off to clean in between them fast and easy. You have to take them off because when you hit the radiator with air it sends the dust right into the fan bearings which kills your fans. it's a real problem spot for dust and lint collecting.
It comes with a clip to clip the cables to the tubes, you don't need to zip-tie it ^^
when the pc comes out of sleep mode does the screen have to be reloaded or adjusted ? seen someone was saying that they had that issue
I got the 360R Black version for my new 7800X3D/4080S build. My only complaint was that I couldn't swap the LL fans with a set of Phanteks D30 fans. The 360R's screws were too short and the D30's screws were too thick.
Thanks for the info on LibreMonitor, Jay. Much better for me than cpuid's HWMonitor. I retains the last settings on startup! And the LianLi cooler is nice. Been running a Galahad 360 and after a saturation run with Cine 23 I think it's time for come fresh paste (12900k stock running at 95C average over 30 min).
Just use HWINFO64, it's way better.
Hate it camp, keep things practical. If I want a temp sensor on the outside of the case its not gonna be on the heatsink, where its useless and visually out of sight but the front of the case where I can actually see it.
What would be nice is if Lian Li put the files online to make the shrouds and stuff with a 3d printer and then you could print them out in any color you wanted ..
$ 200 is not bad, here in Costa Rica a MSI MAG Coreliquid K240 V2 cost $230, so that 360 AIO from Lian Li is kind of cheap actually, buying it from Amazon with shipping is $300 to get it at my door.
Hey Jay, I've read that silver has the highest thermal conductivity, making it the best metal for heat transfer. When do you think we'll see silver cold plate for water cooling? I know it's expensive but would this be something that would allow more efficient cooling or maybe it could be used for professional XOC. Thoughts???
theres also an S version that uses dark fans for about £150 ($200) here in the uk the TL version that use the infinity fans for about £220 ($295) and the R version is around £170 ($225).
I would love to see you do a water cooled build using the Lian Li O11 Vision case with the Singularity Lian Li O11 Vision Distribution Plate Set.
So would you recommend this over the asus RYUJIN 3
Jay, why don't you use HWINFO 64?
He uses what pays the bills at the time
@RngmonsterX hw monitor has had accuracy issues for a long time, hopefully this new one he likes doesn't have the same problem.
That's the best aio I've seen in a while
I want more cheap custom loop parts videos. Finding what's good on AliExpress is very hard. Pumps and rads in particular.
Maybe cuz aliexpress sucks. If you have no money and have to go cheap, you shouldn’t go custom.
What brands of water cooling products do you recommend? When is it a good idea to go from an AIO to custom water cooled? When is it a good point to go from an air cooled GPU to water cooled?
First water cooling build, I like the idea of a custom because more things to learn and try out than just slapping in a part. Trying to find a water block to fit a 4070 ti Super kind of sucks.
With CPU's its really a case of - is your CPU throttling in a noticeable way? If you have a high core count chip and you are doing heavy production work, then an AIO will likely give you a bit better performance and also likely a quieter experience - if you are just gaming and browsing tinternet then any decent air cooler will do the job. For GPU its all about hunting those higher FPS - do you want to squeeze a few extra FPS out that you feel the current cooling isn't letting you hit. These are the practical reasons - but thats not the only reason you go water, particularly if you go custom loop. It's gonna cost you a chunk of money - its not really cost effective vs other solutions, but it can be a very satisfying thing to build for yourself and that is why a lot of people do it - it's something semi unique to you and once you have it made, in theory you can re-use it for several future builds/upgrades.
Funny thing about the Galahad I’m on my 4th RMA in 3 years.
Once the warranty runs out I’ll shift to another brand
Thank you Steve
That one pic makes jay look like a cracked out version of the buckees mascot
The price is up there but I was expecting it to be more. I'm ok with it. Would be nice if it was cheaper but it's not terrible.
We need more Duffus Jay😂😂😂
Stuff with screens will be the next "put it everywhere" thing just like RGB. It has already started on AIO, Keyboards, GPU, Cases and Mobo.
@@SomeRandomTH-camr2024 don't forget fan hubs
Lian Li already puts screens on fans.
the only issue I had with this AIO is that this feature of "hidden" tubes is not compatible with some cases, like the Phanteks NV7, the AIO seems to perform very well and all
Maybe u can add Equilibrium, time to reach, parameter when comparing same hardware with new aio's or we. Maybe more my curiosity if thats some indicator of overall quality or we.
bigger question is whether or not Lian Li has resolved the coil whine issues that have been plaguing their lineup lately
jay, you should test watter wetter in a loop and see if it reduces temps at all
What about the decibels, is it quiet on full speed or just average? Ty for the vid as always.
@Jayztwocents If you still have issues with the RAM just use a new Kit of 2 DIMMs and Single Rank.
I am too scared to do a custom loop so for me I would go for the AIO that will give me the best cooling. Things like screens and covers for the mount are at the bottom of my list. I do like the tubes coming from the side gives a nice clean look
Worth it for sure 199 for an aio screen and rgb.
If I were building a new PC and using an AIO I would probably be giving this a serious look. I hate aio cables going everywhere. I would get the black version not the white, and if I were doing the UNI fan thing everywhere else I would probably upgrade that too. That said... I do custom loops these days so lol. I would advise it to others assuming they would see the value, many people building pc's sadly don't care about performance (other than the graphics card) or having a clean look though.