10/10 for effort! I have seen many other people try to fix similar sticks and those metal tabs always break. Designed to make people buy new ones not repair them. Time this practice of making stuff unfixable stopped. Well done anyway.
" Designed to make people buy new ones not repair them" A) How many people do you think have a microscope etc to even be able to do this? B) A new button costs $7. If you think that they are rolling on cash by making this thing not repairable so that one in a hundredthousand units *may* some day bring in an extra $7... C) There are basically no playstation owners who have the skill to even open this thing up safely, so it will go to a repairman who will charge for the time they take to do the work. Repairing this button took *WAAAAAAAY* longer than $7 worth of time so as a customer; would you pay an extra %50 so one button gets re-used instead of replaced? I'm all for the "right to repair" and saving the environment, but there are limits and they exist mostly at your ned: the consumer.
*Tip - A small dip of Di-Electric grease to hold the component sandwich together for assembly will HELP TREMENDOUSLY, while providing anti oxidizing properties and preventing moisture ingress to the copper fingers. NyoGel 760G - A synthetic hydrocarbon thickened with silica used in Low DC voltage systems as a replacement for the traditional silicone grease used in many of the automotive vehicles produced up through the 90’s and early 2000’s. Its claim to fame is that it doesn’t turn into that clump of solidified opaque grease you often find in lightbulb connectors that go to side marker light plug in connectors. While this is not an issue for - indoor product like this, I personally use it for most all my DC product repairs where I need weather protection or long term reliable lubrication or additional protection. The NyoGel 760G has more substance from its thickener and while initially feels super tacky, upon mechanical working you don’t pick up on any sticky sensation or interruption to the fluid movement but it holds and stays into cavities exceptionally well too. $22 Amazon as of 12/2024
", while providing anti oxidizing properties and preventing moisture ingress to the copper fingers. " It will also hang on to every single bit of dirt that manages to get in there,
Warm the metal tabs up with a soldering iron before bending them, & warm again with a soldering iron before bending them back,,less likely to snap,,Brilliant video,,👍😄
Just a couple of faders on an X/Y yoke. When they get dropped and land on a stick it will pop the cap off and knock the slider out of the yoke. I think they're a bit easer to reassemble if you put the flex cable in the metal back first and use it as a jig.
Ive seen a few video's on fixing the sticks and i haven't seen one person able to fix them. You did an amazing job for something that was not made to be fixed.
A simple manufacturing process change would be to use Spring steel in the holder. That way the little tines hold on and in place and you can bend them and what not and they "spring" back into place.
"A simple manufacturing process change" It's not simple though. the current part looks like galvanised steel, which is cheap and very easy to bend. A spring version would have to be stainless and therefor much more expensive to buy and stamp into the shape you want. The tabs would have to hook onto something so the mould has to change to have barbs on it so a robot can still assemble it. That robot has to be able to hold the springy bits apart during assembly, which is much more difficult than pushing tabs over. You're talking about doubling the price of the button so that you may save a few hundred buttons that this particular problem happens to...
I wonder if you could remanufacture the plastic component by gluing it back together and then moulding it and casting it in resin. Don't know how durable that would be but it might work. Keep up the videos, they're fun to watch!
I think you have a lot of patience Steve a lot of these things are not meant to be repaired it’s a throw away Society which is a shame but well done sir keep up the good work would be nice to see if you can get these replacements and fix it 😊
well done m8 love the vids ,i love taking things apart but really struggle putting it back together usually get loads of parts ping out all over the place springs you name it lol
11:18 you can literally see the potentiometer "track" already worn out where you can see to the other side, sony really doubling down on the manufactured garbage sticks, planned obsolence at it's peak, these things are not that old, and probably did not see a ton of use before the stick poped out of place
@@PITAProductions it's not caused by the drop, the potentiometer's carbon track is caused by just using the joystick, this joystick would have started to drift very soon cuz the electrical connection would be having issues caused by friction wearing away the track, it's a obsolete design that sony keeps doubling down on even when they design new form factor sticks like this one to make sure you replace your controller or use their services to replace the part
You couldn't pay yourself $6 an hour and make any money versus buying a new one I say that but the experience that I had watching you I enjoyed because I'm humbled by your patience I'm humbled by your ability to keep trying even though it seemed like that there was no way to win and yet you're going to find a way to win don't give up.
it looks to me it was dropped on its side and got detaached no, it is not supposed to be fixed, all you do is replace the part, analog sticks are too delicate to be fixed but you made it work, great fix
It looked like the tricking button thing with the 4 holes was upside down as the movement slider(s) that had popped off would make contact with them. But it worked, so I must have missed something in your entertaining fix.
Well if nothing else, that was some great content 🤣 I imagine the lag on that is not exactly easy to play COD on... I can't imagine them being that good, I don't know why they exist :D
I have found out if you can bend some metal's Very slowly you can sometimes overcome the metal fatigue problem without breaking the tab's, but I must emphasise slow part in the opening so it doesn't create any fatigue.
Great videos, impressive for what you doin repair those merchandise daily . I'm impressed 👍. Thank for sharing videos,enjoy watch all the videos too :)
You could use a hot staple to hold that in. Hook one end over the metal and push the other point into the plastic. You could solder a little piece of nickel strip across the fatigued part. 2 part instant epoxy would work that's too many delicate parts to super glue safely. I might also suggest getting a 43" 4K TV and use that instead of that tiny screen on the scope. I'm pretty sure the resolution on that little screen is lower than what the camera supports. That's the way I do it at least. I like to see the phase change when I'm doing a BGA reball. It's proper trippy.
At 10:12 in top right you can see that the black carbon on the membrane has warn away. This might be why it wasn't feeling responsive. On the Dualsense controllers this often causes stick drift and unresponsive behaviour. I am pretty sure it's a planned obsolescence technique to get people paying for repair or buy a new replacement system/controller. Your replacement sticks will be better (for a time).
Where did you get the " Limited Edition " AMC Los Pollos T-Shirt? I have the exact same one in red. My sister in-law works for the company, so believe we have a bunch of EXCLUSIVE Goodies. 😀😁😀😁😃
I want to know why they aren't glued or attached in some way to the white housing. And why people who fix them don't superglue them when they do the repair.
I replaced the Joy Cons (Switch) with Hall Effects and they never drift again. I don't use then much since I'm using Pro Controller (TV & Tabletop Mode) and Split Pro Controller on Handheld Mode. Both of them has Hall Effects included.
Did the exact same joystick repair on a rog ally when I got it and the left stick broke. Impatience for the warranty or new stick to arrive I cracked on. Done the lot minus tweezers or a microscope with a magnitude of sweat words....still working six months later 😂
Finally gave in & spent my cex credit on a portal. 3 days in & loving it! Playing ps5 far more than ever now. Fingers crossed the rumours are true & a new psp is on the way.
Is it really going to cause an issue in the long run? After all it is screwed down through the front chassis which in turn will hold the backing plate down. Steve over at tronicsfix had the exact same issue
Steve, I fix thousands of controllers a year. I see that fault 3:18 at least 10 times a year, and as recently as the boxing day just gone, on a Series X white controller. It's bizarre. After 15 years, I've still no idea how they come off. Some of the ones I encounter have been thrown in anger by the owners. The "thing out of the slot" at 6:18 is called a wiper. Not sure if you mention that later as I'm typing comments as I watch. At 8:02 that plastic looks like it will press a tactile switch when you press down on the stick. I've never had one of these apart but it's in the same place as the "L3" button on other controllers. With regular controllers from Xbox/PS/Nintendo, I just replace the sticks. Only if I am all out of sticks (very rarely) will I do a similar repair to what you did. As I side note... I have that same Breaking Bad T-Shirt! Great video as per usual.
Ey! I told @JoeyDoesTech a couple of days ago about your tweezers comment from the ps vita episode last year. He didnt believe me! 😂😂 Bet he is going to bring the beef! 😬😂
Be thankfull Sony is providing parts and replacements like thumbaticks nowadays. When portal first came out, those thumbsticks were the first to go bad and you couldn't find them for a very long time, untill Sony made them available to The public
10/10 for effort! I have seen many other people try to fix similar sticks and those metal tabs always break. Designed to make people buy new ones not repair them. Time this practice of making stuff unfixable stopped. Well done anyway.
" Designed to make people buy new ones not repair them"
A) How many people do you think have a microscope etc to even be able to do this?
B) A new button costs $7. If you think that they are rolling on cash by making this thing not repairable so that one in a hundredthousand units *may* some day bring in an extra $7...
C) There are basically no playstation owners who have the skill to even open this thing up safely, so it will go to a repairman who will charge for the time they take to do the work. Repairing this button took *WAAAAAAAY* longer than $7 worth of time so as a customer; would you pay an extra %50 so one button gets re-used instead of replaced?
I'm all for the "right to repair" and saving the environment, but there are limits and they exist mostly at your ned: the consumer.
Niiiiice ...great fix Steve, even if it is temporary, bonus no melted plastic this week .. yay
Yep, I'm on a roll! 😅
Gotta love how they score the metal where it bends to ensure it will break if you try to repair it.
You've never seen what the metal looks like before it was bent.
And replacement buttons are $7 a piece so... it's not an issue.
@@vinny142 I’m actually a machinist, so yes I have seen what metal looks like before it’s bent. The score marks aren’t from the bending process.
@@klorslug but they literally are ???
*Tip - A small dip of Di-Electric grease to hold the component sandwich together for assembly will HELP TREMENDOUSLY, while providing anti oxidizing properties and preventing moisture ingress to the copper fingers.
NyoGel 760G - A synthetic hydrocarbon thickened with silica used in Low DC voltage systems as a replacement for the traditional silicone grease used in many of the automotive vehicles produced up through the 90’s and early 2000’s.
Its claim to fame is that it doesn’t turn into that clump of solidified opaque grease you often find in lightbulb connectors that go to side marker light plug in connectors. While this is not an issue for - indoor product like this, I personally use it for most all my DC product repairs where I need weather protection or long term reliable lubrication or additional protection. The NyoGel 760G has more substance from its thickener and while initially feels super tacky, upon mechanical working you don’t pick up on any sticky sensation or interruption to the fluid movement but it holds and stays into cavities exceptionally well too.
$22 Amazon as of 12/2024
", while providing anti oxidizing properties and preventing moisture ingress to the copper fingers. "
It will also hang on to every single bit of dirt that manages to get in there,
I totally felt your pain I quit repairing analog sticks because a similar repair about pushed me over the edge 🤓
Warm the metal tabs up with a soldering iron before bending them, & warm again with a soldering iron before bending them back,,less likely to snap,,Brilliant video,,👍😄
Nice one Steve, I kept shouting at you to glue it, and you did. Brilliant Tee Shirt by the way. Los Pollos, The Chicken Man.
Just a couple of faders on an X/Y yoke. When they get dropped and land on a stick it will pop the cap off and knock the slider out of the yoke. I think they're a bit easer to reassemble if you put the flex cable in the metal back first and use it as a jig.
Ive seen a few video's on fixing the sticks and i haven't seen one person able to fix them. You did an amazing job for something that was not made to be fixed.
Normally I skip the rap the but the COD line was genius 😂
I was JUST about to skip like usual when that line hit and I was like "wait, I need to hear this one out"
I always sing along to the rap. I love that bit. Am I wrong?
Brilliant fix Steve, on with the new one then happy days 😊
The second greatest technician that's ever lived.
Haha, I know that reference
Excellent repair, you gained a good bit of kit for only £110. 👍🏼
Those tabs are well known for breaking, you did really well for keeping two on! 😎
A simple manufacturing process change would be to use Spring steel
in the holder. That way the little tines hold on and in place and you can
bend them and what not and they "spring" back into place.
"A simple manufacturing process change"
It's not simple though. the current part looks like galvanised steel, which is cheap and very easy to bend. A spring version would have to be stainless and therefor much more expensive to buy and stamp into the shape you want. The tabs would have to hook onto something so the mould has to change to have barbs on it so a robot can still assemble it. That robot has to be able to hold the springy bits apart during assembly, which is much more difficult than pushing tabs over.
You're talking about doubling the price of the button so that you may save a few hundred buttons that this particular problem happens to...
Steve got that flow today. Great Rap Steve! Cheers mate 🍻
You inspired me to buy a soldering iron to fix a PIR light I dropped. I am your your legacy 🤓🎉
Tronicsfix was showing this issue recently. Looks like Sony dropped a bollock with this design. Good vid mate 🤘🏻
No big shock honestly, they haven't really given a shit about the longevity of their joysticks for at least 2 gens.
it is called planned obsolescence. Such a vital component of such poor quality is not random.
I knew I saw it somewhere else.
What's a bollock?
A bollock is a testicle. Dropping a bollock = making big mistake. Uk slang
I wonder if you could remanufacture the plastic component by gluing it back together and then moulding it and casting it in resin. Don't know how durable that would be but it might work. Keep up the videos, they're fun to watch!
I think you have a lot of patience Steve a lot of these things are not meant to be repaired it’s a throw away Society which is a shame but well done sir keep up the good work would be nice to see if you can get these replacements and fix it 😊
You are really talented Steve, nice work.
There's been an update for the portal that people are saying it should of been shipped like that. It's a really serious update.
well done m8 love the vids ,i love taking things apart but really struggle putting it back together usually get loads of parts ping out all over the place springs you name it lol
that was a sweet fix my guy, GG!. take care.
11:18 you can literally see the potentiometer "track" already worn out where you can see to the other side, sony really doubling down on the manufactured garbage sticks, planned obsolence at it's peak, these things are not that old, and probably did not see a ton of use before the stick poped out of place
Same crappy design like in the Nintendo Switch joy-cons. Portal and VR2 controllers are getting the same fate like joy-cons unfortunately.
I don't think you can blame Sony on somebody dropping it
@@PITAProductions it's not caused by the drop, the potentiometer's carbon track is caused by just using the joystick, this joystick would have started to drift very soon cuz the electrical connection would be having issues caused by friction wearing away the track, it's a obsolete design that sony keeps doubling down on even when they design new form factor sticks like this one to make sure you replace your controller or use their services to replace the part
Great video; so satisfying! And the music this time, now with lyrics from the actual disassembly! Nice!
nice repair Steve well done brother
Good ouittro song, Steve - ta!
Try using a watch vice, they come in various sizes, that will keep your small items rock steady.
Brilliant job!!! Go to the pub and have a well deserved pint!!! 👍👍👍
Always good to keep odds and bits, it's finding the sods when you need them, that's the trick. 😊
🤣🤣🤣 You should see the size of my sods collection! Love it, cheers 🍺
Nicely done Steve!
Reminds me a bit of watch making, which I tried a bit. Fan of mechanical watch's, and the microscope work and fiddly nature is off the chart.
Nice T-shirt Steve. Love a bit of BB and BCS myself.
I always smile when I "predict" you are going to say "solid" and you do
Outro song was superb this time Steve lol😂👌
Nice fix Steve, and such patience.
You couldn't pay yourself $6 an hour and make any money versus buying a new one I say that but the experience that I had watching you I enjoyed because I'm humbled by your patience I'm humbled by your ability to keep trying even though it seemed like that there was no way to win and yet you're going to find a way to win don't give up.
Great and brave fix !
Oh, and great T-shirt !
Got one from a pawn shop with the exact same issues same stick, everything. $100 out the door wasn't bad, fairly easy fix.
Great fix! A tiny bit of white lithium grease might hold the whole sandwich together while you get it clamped back together.
Just an fyi: those thingies with the metal tabs are called wipers. Great video as always!
Haha 😂 same story here gave up on restoring four Ps2 dual shocks after multiple hours of failing to deal with the fidlyness of the components !
Nice fix Steve.
Great work!
Too bad about the joysticks. It's just easier to replace them, I guess.
Impressive fix.
Hey Stez! After fixing these things do you resell them or keep em for your own personal collection? Or Both? LOVE the videos btw!
it looks to me it was dropped on its side and got detaached
no, it is not supposed to be fixed, all you do is replace the part, analog sticks are too delicate to be fixed but you made it work, great fix
It looked like the tricking button thing with the 4 holes was upside down as the movement slider(s) that had popped off would make contact with them.
But it worked, so I must have missed something in your entertaining fix.
Excellent work once again!
Well if nothing else, that was some great content 🤣 I imagine the lag on that is not exactly easy to play COD on... I can't imagine them being that good, I don't know why they exist :D
Yeah, it does seem kinda pointless. I guess it's good for games where you don't need millisecond reactions. Like tetris or something 😁
I can tell you never got past level 50 then🤣
I have found out if you can bend some metal's Very slowly you can sometimes overcome the metal fatigue problem without breaking the tab's, but I must emphasise slow part in the opening so it doesn't create any fatigue.
Great videos, impressive for what you doin repair those merchandise daily . I'm impressed 👍. Thank for sharing videos,enjoy watch all the videos too :)
I was nearly brought to tears trying to do a similar repair to one of my ps3 controllers, and this is at least half the size those were.
Complimenti per la qualità che porti.
You could use a hot staple to hold that in. Hook one end over the metal and push the other point into the plastic.
You could solder a little piece of nickel strip across the fatigued part.
2 part instant epoxy would work that's too many delicate parts to super glue safely.
I might also suggest getting a 43" 4K TV and use that instead of that tiny screen on the scope. I'm pretty sure the resolution on that little screen is lower than what the camera supports. That's the way I do it at least. I like to see the phase change when I'm doing a BGA reball. It's proper trippy.
Or just solder a staple to the remaining bottom plate in place of the broken tabs 🙂 Or for a stronger hold, a paper clip!
If they assembled it, then it can be disassembled and put back together again haha. Nice work!
If you intend to assemble the replacements, you should sand the plastic corners of their square base a bit so that the stick doesn't get stuck
If you have some JB Weld that would lock that sucker down, if not, hot glue you can easily remove once you get the parts in.
We went to Los Pollos (Twisters) when we visited Albuquerque! 😂😂😂
My portal works awesome on zombies thanks for the vid now i know what to do when it fails have you a link for the analog parts
At 10:12 in top right you can see that the black carbon on the membrane has warn away. This might be why it wasn't feeling responsive. On the Dualsense controllers this often causes stick drift and unresponsive behaviour. I am pretty sure it's a planned obsolescence technique to get people paying for repair or buy a new replacement system/controller. Your replacement sticks will be better (for a time).
Where did you get the " Limited Edition " AMC Los Pollos T-Shirt? I have the exact same one in red. My sister in-law works for the company, so believe we have a bunch of EXCLUSIVE Goodies. 😀😁😀😁😃
Nice fix, Steve. I still don't understand what this thing is useful for, though.
I would say the weak point is the concave, try making it more before you fit new ones 👍👍👍👍
I want to know why they aren't glued or attached in some way to the white housing. And why people who fix them don't superglue them when they do the repair.
Thanks 4 video I feel motivated!
What glue is that? I need it too. You are using it on everything. 😅
maybe you can try replace it with one of those hall effect thumbsticks, i saw a few on amazon and aliexpress
I replaced the Joy Cons (Switch) with Hall Effects and they never drift again. I don't use then much since I'm using Pro Controller (TV & Tabletop Mode) and Split Pro Controller on Handheld Mode. Both of them has Hall Effects included.
next time, remember dielectric grease is your friend. It will hold small parts in place.
Cool T. Great fix. Get in there
Nice one.........I like the t shirt if u know u know😊
Mybe that soldier mask or whatever it is that you set with UV would have also held it ?
I rebuilt the analog sticks from a psvita and I can say it's pretty difficult to take them entirely apart and get them back together in working order.
Did the exact same joystick repair on a rog ally when I got it and the left stick broke. Impatience for the warranty or new stick to arrive I cracked on. Done the lot minus tweezers or a microscope with a magnitude of sweat words....still working six months later 😂
Thanks Steve. Incidentally, what's your go-to glue for fixing things?
Heres a thought white silicone grease to stick the bits together.
You can use some joystick silicone-based grease to hold the bits in place.
nope, will not help - carbon deposit worn off, you cannot fix that.
@@tigrafrog What? I said you could use the grease to hold it in place, I didn't say it would fix it.
You put it back together, props to you. It is a shame these are made in such way it prevents repair.
Finally gave in & spent my cex credit on a portal. 3 days in & loving it! Playing ps5 far more than ever now. Fingers crossed the rumours are true & a new psp is on the way.
I've heard that PSP 2 IS coming, but it's in early development stage at the moment. I wouldn't expect anything until 2026 at the earliest.
You need a small clamp to hold housing still.
Awesome, Steve!
Is it really going to cause an issue in the long run? After all it is screwed down through the front chassis which in turn will hold the backing plate down. Steve over at tronicsfix had the exact same issue
I thought the same but of course that does imply no gap behind the stick... just a thought 😉 Cheers 🍺
Steve nice fix temporary or not. I am interested in the glue you use. Care to share the name? Thanks.
Looks like standard superglue (cyanoacrylate) to me - you can get them with those pipette applicators - a game changer 😊
@@zx85 THANKS
What did u pay for it. Always nice to see paid price before the fix.
Dear Santa please leave Steve a Mini Bench Vice for Christmas.
Steve, I fix thousands of controllers a year. I see that fault 3:18 at least 10 times a year, and as recently as the boxing day just gone, on a Series X white controller. It's bizarre. After 15 years, I've still no idea how they come off. Some of the ones I encounter have been thrown in anger by the owners.
The "thing out of the slot" at 6:18 is called a wiper. Not sure if you mention that later as I'm typing comments as I watch.
At 8:02 that plastic looks like it will press a tactile switch when you press down on the stick. I've never had one of these apart but it's in the same place as the "L3" button on other controllers.
With regular controllers from Xbox/PS/Nintendo, I just replace the sticks. Only if I am all out of sticks (very rarely) will I do a similar repair to what you did.
As I side note... I have that same Breaking Bad T-Shirt!
Great video as per usual.
PS. If anybody repairs their own controllers. Buy genuine sticks. The potentiometers on 3rd party ones range from ok to terrible.
What instant glue did you use after the tabs broke?
Any chance you have a car that has stickers saying stupid car or something on it? Possibly in the north west?
Was watching this with my 10 year old son, and at the start of the rap, he said ‘why did he say penis portal?’ And now I can’t unhear it 😂
Hall effect thumb sticks need to be standard, and are a cheap and easy upgrade. Don't even need to calibrate. 😁
It's magnified, A LOT!
Love the shirt
With a Los Pollos Hermanos T-Shirt, Dave must be renamed in "Gus"
I came here to make a remark about the shirt... 😂😂
Ey! I told @JoeyDoesTech a couple of days ago about your tweezers comment from the ps vita episode last year. He didnt believe me! 😂😂 Bet he is going to bring the beef! 😬😂
Love the shirt 😂
Be thankfull Sony is providing parts and replacements like thumbaticks nowadays. When portal first came out, those thumbsticks were the first to go bad and you couldn't find them for a very long time, untill Sony made them available to The public
My sunday fix of things being fixed 😀👍
That graphite pad was really worn down anyway, better to get a replacement as the pad wasn't going to last much longer anyway.
It makes you wonder how they put these things together quickly on a production line.