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- How to write off council tax using section 13a. Councils don't want you to know this.
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I went to court yesterday as i got a section 13a granted over 2 and a half YEARS ago! The council did nothing in this time. Then they popped up threatening court again!
I turned up. Waited. Case got adjourned. Twice.
Me suitably miffed.
Went yesterday and i brought up the electronic signature with no name next to it. I was instantly told its a non starter as its legal now. However... only if its recognisable as a person. It wasn't traceable.
So they took me to court even though they hadn't followed up on the section 13a for 2.5 years!
They said they " they'd tried calling twice..no answer.
And sent an email"
i never saw...and that was their only attempt! I asked why they didn't write a letter, as they know where I live! No reply.....funny that!
So the court was to see IF a liability order is valid, NOT how much! Boy, they have section 13a to remember..
They have made an enemy now. They will get get less than nothing ....my income was from a ltd company that made a loss for 2 years due to the pandemic. No gov help for company directors.
Only a LOAN a year in...i am paying that back now....
Section 13a is great. Write to them and request it written off.
Remember its not pauper prison any more, you dont have to pay them if it makes you financially insecure..
Take care peeps, and fight them every step!
Mr Echelon: well done! my council had asked me to pay a specific amount with another arrear which I was paying alongside the regular levy, but recently, when I logged on to my council tax account, which I've never done, I realized that a small amount of this CT I'd paid was registered monthly into my CT account with them, when I inquired this, I was fooled around to call this and that number and no one was ready to give me a straight answer. Then, the worst since the money didn't add up, one of them with an eccentric brain would decide to send me a bill requesting unpaid CT, how do I fight this? And now, they've erased the account as I got to direct them to it some days ago.
Hi there could anyone advise about the form the template that you fill out with regards to the council tax please?
I asked Dover Council to grant me Section 13A and they replied and said I am not eligible because I no longer live in Dover.
Have you also moved away from the original address that you own them council tax?
@@johnnyc5765 Hi there no I still live in the same city
@@AnthonyPaulRicketts Thanks for the reply, so I guess to be eligible for section 13A you can't move out of the address.
I will continue to find other ways to fight this.
Good Vid although there is a golden nugget to all this.
The local government act 1888 section 79/2 clearly states :
"All duties and liabilities of the inhabitants of a county shall become and be duties and liabilities of the council of such county."
That's right, the council settle ALL accounts, not YOU.
You are not the fictitious "legal person" to whom such notices & letters are addressed, you are a Man / Woman under God.
Furthermore, on letters/notices, legally, ALL text that appears inside a 'box' is not a part of the letter, so can be disregarded. Read that letter again with this in mind.
Realise your authority over all commercial entities, as a living man / woman under God.
Go from there.
Woo! 🙄🙄
Been revoked i think 🤔
@@russmartin4888nope clearly states no updates
It works.....
100 percent.
Thanks 👍🏾
Had a massive reduction...
Section 13A (1c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 allows local authorities to, in exceptional circumstances, reduce the Council Tax liability for a charge payer. Statutory exemptions and discounts must first have been exhausted.
You don’t have to pay them at all.
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Thanks for doing these videos Andy, much appreciated
CAN YOU IMAGINE IF THE PEOPLE STUCK TOGETHER AS THEY DID WITH THE TV LICENSING?
THE SUCCESS WOULD BE WONDERFUL FOR REUNITING THE SOLIDARITY OF PEOPLE.
IT WOULD EVEN DISSOLVE THE SHEEPLE OVEN NIGHT. JUST THINK WHAT IT WOULD MEAN,
TO KEEP OLD PEOPLE WARM IN THE WINTER AND WHATS MORE STOP OUR CHILDREN CRYING
AND AND DYING WITH HUNGER.
I wish people would unite together over council tax!
It needs to be abolished!!
It’s not even for people living in houses it was originally brought into existence for business.
So why the hell do we need to pay!
Why don’t we start a Revolution over council tax ? 😃😉👍
@@lizziejem11 so how do you propose the councils carry out their legal responsibilities without any money?
@@DebbieLeighDriver yeah. Good luck with that
@@DebbieLeighDriver because we are lucky in this country to have the standard of living we have. The grass isn't always greener
@@DebbieLeighDriver I am, but how exactly would that work? I cannot see how your idea will work. Power, water, services all take ingenuity and effort. And cost money. We've had state owned utilities. And now we have privatised suppliers. And why shouldn't people of pensionable age pay for their utilities? There are already systems in place to assist people suffering hardship.
Wow! Had no idea about this!! Thank you!!
Very interesting video many thanks Michael
In 1989, the council tax (formerly poll tax) in Westminster was£35. That means, according to inflation, that it should now be about £87 ayear. It is now somewhere between 800 and 900 a year. WHERE'S THE MONEY GOING? The council appears to have the cash to buy buildings such as supermarket buildings and them renting them out to supermarkets.
The money has gone to the 'Privatised sector' such as your garbage disposal companies and make their CEO very very rich.
You're lucky ! Mine is £1575 for a 2 bed house.
Blimey this is just criminal they are criminals it's like paying dues to the freemasonic mafia
In Hartlepool it’s band A £1500
Most expensive in UK
Mines about £1600 a year and im on low income and just an occupier it is ridiculous and disgusting
Since 2003 there has been no prescribed form for a liabilty order. The court do not hold a copy and neither do some councils. Allthough the best thing everyone could do is attend court and stifle the courts clog them up
Absolutely true. This guy explains it pretty well and tells us how to legally stop paying the scam artists.
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Thank you for this I had no idea
Thanks for the information great job 😊
This is good advice, apart from the fact that all taxation is voluntary, so you will be writing off a none debt and agreeing to continue to pay a tax that is not actually enforceable once you question the actual legislation that is in written format indicating a law that is in place to say all populations have to by the law of the governance "pay taxations". there is not one law, statute bill or act currently stating that the taxation system in place now is anything but by voluntary consent........the governor of the IRS even stated this very fact in 2014 at a senate hearing declaring that all taxations were by voluntary consent....And all councils are for-profit companies and will be listed as such on Dun & Bradstreet, this in itself is illegal as the populations are being taxed by companies for profit who are collecting on behalf of a UK government corporation also a company for profit......so in effect you are funding a criminal enterprise and in doing so are committing a crime.........what a carry on.
Wtf is the IRS?
Well said John. This is also the same rule under common law, natural law, God's law etc etc. Xxxx
How to challenge the council tax and stop paying them?
@@fergusdonaghy3124 Inland Revenue service
@@carenkells9549 that's American. What relevance does it have to UK law
Andy, I have that issue, but you've cleared my head of that, and Yes! My council tax hasn't mentioned the 13a section😃👌🤙👍☺😄
Section 13A (1c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992
im goin try this lol cheers mate
I did this and still got a court summons! Not sure what to do now. What they're doing is wrong!!
excellent news....As I just cant afford to make repairs on my house and pay council tax......
Hi did you do a video on the beliefs many thank
Thank you. Is this the same as the s151 officer
Thank you. I just received one over £3200. I only applied for council tax In 2019.
I have just wrote a letter to the officer 13a Thanks to you. I am waiting for his or her reply. Thank you so much.
How’d you go?
Thank you so much I am going through the system with my council but I can't fill forms out and don't know how to go about it, 13a thanks
Stop paying them altogether.
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Myself and my wife both had a summons and was just thinking of ignore it. We were not suppose to be pay council tax as we're both disabled & my wife is on pip.
You need to claim council tax benefit.
@@squadron69 what’s this??
Thank you Andy, I have just written to the 13a Officer using your template with additional info. I will keep you guys up to date here.
where did you find the template Johnny C?
So now Dover Council has written back to me after much delay and told me I am not entitled to Section 13A since I don't live in that property (the property I own them council tax) anymore.
They asked me to contact Enforcement Agency Dukes because recovery action is to be continued.
So, this is what I am going to do, I will still live in my apartment but I won't open my front door to the bailiffs. Apparently every bailiff is given a deadline to recover debts, and I found out it's usually 3 months.
Let me know what you guys think.
@@johnnyc5765 Make sure to keep doors locked as they are allowed through unlocked doors and it’s an offence to obstruct them (I.e try and kick them out).
@@FateBoost Thanks for this piece of info. Can they still climbing through the windows?
@@johnnyc5765 No - Reg 20 of the taking control of goods act.
Don’t forget though the council can use a liability order which means if they fail to collect payment via balliffs, they can make a deduction from earnings or benefits. If the amount owed is over £1k they can do a charging order against your property if you own it (add an extra debt to it) and if the amount owed is over £5k they can petition for bankruptcy.
In England as a last resort, and if it’s willingfully refusing to pay the council can apply for a prison term.
You should state the 'section' of which Act this relates to rather than just the 'section'. Every Act of parliament probably has a 'section 13' or '13 A'. People can then read the actual legislation on the gov website
Local Government Finance Act 1992 - part I - Chapter I - Amounts of tax payable - Section 13A
It is mentioned in the video by Andy.. but for clarity its www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1992/14/section/13A
Section 13A (1c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992
Does this apply to Scotland too?
Out of interest, by not paying council tax how exactly do you propose society fulfils essential services such as Social Care, Policing, Fire, Ambulance, emptying bins, etc?
I think I've read somewhere that a third of what we pay in council tax goes to the councillors pension pot.
Council tax doesn’t cover these things . It is put into a national pot where government redistribute it as they see fit . Ukraine amongst others get the majority of it lately I understand . MP’s pension pots get it too . We are being “had” .
Out of general taxation. Income Tax. On employment earnings, food, cars, savings, in case you missed it, known as V.A.T. & FINES FOR THIS & FINES FOR ANYTHING THEY CAN MAKE UP LIKE "ULEZ" !!!! PLASTIC BAGS ETC ETC. 🤔😮 MORE WEAPONS/CARS FOR THE POLICE ETC ETC
By paying tax and not funding globalist wars and wef policies that destroy the fabric of society.
Just look at the plandemic wealth transfer...worked a treat for those at the top, est 2 trillion, which came from the working/middle class and those services you just mentioned.
TOP TIP: never ignore the mail, conditionally accept it.
Hi, I wrote to the council about section 13a and they totally ignored it. In return I received a court summons 3 months later. I wrote back asking why they didnt reply to my letter and sent a copy to them. I also sent a copy to the court saying they didnt respond to my letter. I sent both by recorded delivery, so I know they got it.
hopefully the court will look favourably on you as you have made an attempt to sort it out.
Don't send letters send notices.
@@ltibbles8257 ok thanks. I've not heard back from them and the court summons date is 23rd Nov.
Did you eventually hear Back?
@@LofiWurld I ended up with a baliff at the house. I wrote to the council leader and eventually someone from the council tax dept wrote back and confirmed they called off the baliffs but i had to pay it on installments.
Where is the video for if it gets to the bailiffs? Please link it for me or make it if you haven't, I just found your channel and subscribed
Ive had Bailiff letters all my adult life, an them knocking at the door.. I just don't answer or put a camera in thier face... they don't like that an will pissoff.. ✌️
yes you can. however they want to see bank accounts etc. I'm not showing them nothing.
Hi can i have a template and is there any way to stop charging orders..
Any knowledge
I Andy, just seen this 13A information. Does a draft letter exist please and where can it be found please?
Also, I know this is 7months old but when I tried to log on to FB, Instagram, etc... it came up not available. Hope to hear about 13A council tax letter. It would help my daughter no end. Thank you. Lesley-Ann
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Thank you Andy. You're a star!! Lesley-Ann
Do you mean Local Government Finance Act 1992 section 13A Reductions By Billing Authority?
If you consult a good Solicitor
Yes please have you got a template letter for help with this, thank you Andy 😊
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hi andy great video many thanks for giving peace of mind where can i get your template letter many thanks again russell
Yeah no sign of this template. He says it can be written off but no idea what to say to get it written off?
Thaaaaank uuuu!!!! Please the letter
Very informative. Thank you. Where can template letter be obtained please.
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Yes can you post a template please
Application for council tax discretionary reduction - section 13A(1)(c) Local Government Finance Act 1992
My name is [xxxxxx]. I am the [owner/occupier] of [address & postcode].
I am the person liable for council tax. My council tax account number is [999999999].
I write to apply for a discretionary reduction in the amount of council tax under section 13(A)(1)(c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 that I owe for the following tax years: [2020/21 and 2021/22].
I am currently in receipt of council tax reduction but I cannot pay the reduced amount OR I have applied for council tax reduction but I will not be able to pay the reduced bill if that is awarded OR I have been told I do not qualify for council tax reduction because [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx].
My reasons for applying for a discretionary reduction are as follows [see Reasons below]
I attach an Income & Expenditure statement, showing that I have no surplus income to make payments to these council tax debts, and my latest two bank statements.
[also attach & list anything else that supports your request: receipts, medical reports, statements of expenditure, letters from other people in support]
I look forward to hearing from you within two months of the date of this letter.
If you do not accept my application, I will be appealing to the Valuation Tribunal under section 16(1) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992.
Yours faithfully, [name]
I would love to do this how can I get a letter template please,I really appreciate it
I took my form into the 1 stop shop, they didn't like it.
I have done this but they responded with a letter with links to apply for help which I’m not entitled to. Also they are saying section 13A is only applicable for certain circumstances. I’m not sure if I should be responding now or not. I drafted an email and left it in drafts saying…I’ve sought legal advice and I’m not liable to pay something I have never contracted to pay…(I’ve worded it better but this is in brief). What next??? 🙃
Police at your door , if the nonsense continues .
If you go down the Freeman “ no contract” woo route you will get nowhere, except courts and bailiffs. Section 13A is relief due to reasons of financial hardship. If paying CT means you can’t afford to eat, pay your rent & heating bills etc then provide evidence to the Section 13A officer at your Council. Send letter by recorded delivery, keep copies of everything.
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Hey, is this the same with parking tickets?
All of these things on the internet are complete bull. All you end up doing is delaying it, getting sent to court and having to pay more in fines. None of these people have any proof of these things working, and normally don't try them themselves.
If you are struggling to pay ANY bill, the best thing is to contact the people, explain the situation and get an arrangement in to pay in place.
Whenever you see these sort of things about it not being your legal name, not having a wet signature, not being a legal bill etc.., ask them for solid proof they have challenged this and it has been written off
I agree with most of what you say but this video is correct, unlike all the other FOTL, wet ink signature, Maritime Law woo. Every Council does have a Section 13A officer and they do have discretion to reduce or write off council tax liability. It is not a “loophole” but it is there to help people with genuine need. If you’re paying a Sky subscription, have a 52” plasma screen tv and are off on hols abroad, but are being chased for CT arrears then you aren’t in financial hardship, you’re just making bad choices!
Is there a similar section for housing benefit I got some demands for owed housing benefit and council tax going back 6years that we had no idea about Very stressful times
MAKE A COUNTER CLAIM FIRST
Am 67 ive paid for 10 years they said lowed them 10yrs worth i had to pay only just finnished now on my 67 🙂
Can we please get that template letter ,itll be tremendously helpful, thank you so much
23rd March 2022
Dear Sir/Madam
Council tax account No:Your account or reference number (required)
Application for council tax discretionary reduction
I am writing to you about my council tax bill/debt. I understand that you have the discretion to reduce my council tax bill/debt in part, or in full, under section 13(A)(1)(c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992. This is separate to any entitlement that I may have under your Council Tax Reduction scheme.
Please accept this letter as my application for a discretionary reduction in my council tax. I confirm that I am the owner/occupierDelete whichever term does not apply to you (required)
of the above property and liable for the council tax.
I cannot afford to pay the council tax demanded and would like you to take my circumstances into account. I also enclose a copy of my budget which gives details of my financial circumstances.
Explain your circumstances here and give details about anything that may support your request. This could include information about an illness, disability or the impact of the debt on you, children or vulnerable adults within the household. It could also include one off events, such as flooding, that have caused financial hardship or meant that you needed to leave the property. (required)
I am happy to provide any further information that you need.
If you do not accept this application, please take this letter as notice of appeal to the Valuation Tribunal for England under section 16 of the Local Government Finance Act 1992. (Delete this sentence if you are writing to a council in Wales).
I look forward to hearing from you as soon as possible.
Yours faithfully
Include your full name (required)
PLEASE ! TEMPLATE LETTER
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why the F does every one want everything done for them ??? Get your fingers moving on that keyboard/pad and do some f'in research and stop expecting everyone to do it for you ! learn the shit for your self ffs ! thats half the problem why we are in such shit order in this shit hole of a planet because people cant be assed to do things for themselves !
Application for council tax discretionary reduction - section 13A(1)(c) Local Government Finance Act 1992
My name is [xxxxxx]. I am the [owner/occupier] of [address & postcode].
I am the person liable for council tax. My council tax account number is [999999999].
I write to apply for a discretionary reduction in the amount of council tax under section 13(A)(1)(c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 that I owe for the following tax years: [2020/21 and 2021/22].
I am currently in receipt of council tax reduction but I cannot pay the reduced amount OR I have applied for council tax reduction but I will not be able to pay the reduced bill if that is awarded OR I have been told I do not qualify for council tax reduction because [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx].
My reasons for applying for a discretionary reduction are as follows [see Reasons below]
I attach an Income & Expenditure statement, showing that I have no surplus income to make payments to these council tax debts, and my latest two bank statements.
[also attach & list anything else that supports your request: receipts, medical reports, statements of expenditure, letters from other people in support]
I look forward to hearing from you within two months of the date of this letter.
If you do not accept my application, I will be appealing to the Valuation Tribunal under section 16(1) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992.
Yours faithfully, [name]
There is NO obligation to pay CT, the Obligation does not EXIST :)
Your great thankyou, I got a ccj this week for a private parking ticket, can they take my car off me ,thankyou
Just been to magistrates court about me refusing to pay council tax
Mentioned the capitalised name the wrongful summons n liability from the council tax office not the court
Asked the magistrates were they under their oath
They said they were
Mentioned the 1888 local government act section 782 saying no councils and government bodies could act as courts and judicial bodies
Magistrates told me they gave c tax authority to issue summons for payment of c tax
Please advise
Many thanks
Where I live they go to Court and are granted the power to seek repayment in the form of an attachment of earnings order . I lost £250 in November and £250 in my December wage this way- ouch ! So that has left me short for Xmas and my council tax for the past 2 months aagh! And so the cycle continues … I end up paying late , they go to court or ‘court’ and get a AOE order ( which I’d rather than a bailiff on my doorstep when I have kids ) it’s been like this for the last 3 yrs since my husband had an accident at work that left him disabled and unable to work but because I work we aren’t entities to a discount on our council tax .
Illegal.
@@markp6982 I think it must be legal through some loophole as they keep doing it - but what I find pretty unethical is the way that when I tell them ‘you are forcing me into financial hardship when you take so much of my wage and expect me
To pay council tax and have enough for my rent and other bills plus stuff like
Xmas ‘ they don’t care - now that seems pretty dodgy to me that they knowingly perpetuate the cycle
Of debt for ppl .I believe it’s so they can keep adding their charges on top
@@LxUxNxA If you are domestic I don't think they can charge you. Maybe read regs/laws which are offers to contract requiring a wet ink signature. You are being defrauded imo. Bills etc will be sent to MR JOHN FRED DOE which is not English. Its American Sign Language. They have never billed you as John Fred Doe. Maybe tell them no company called JOHN FRED DOE is trading at your address.
Its only illegal if they didnt do a means test
@@markp6982 oh here we go, more Freemen on the Land woo! 🙄🙄
Please put an temples letter. Regarding is section 13a letter to council officer.
I got to the bailiffs any help
What happens if you move in and after almost a year they send your council tax bill? So it's already in arrears but it's the first you hear about it?
Hi andy
Could i have a template
Also does this need to be done every year?
Application for council tax discretionary reduction - section 13A(1)(c) Local Government Finance Act 1992
My name is [xxxxxx]. I am the [owner/occupier] of [address & postcode].
I am the person liable for council tax. My council tax account number is [999999999].
I write to apply for a discretionary reduction in the amount of council tax under section 13(A)(1)(c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 that I owe for the following tax years: [2020/21 and 2021/22].
I am currently in receipt of council tax reduction but I cannot pay the reduced amount OR I have applied for council tax reduction but I will not be able to pay the reduced bill if that is awarded OR I have been told I do not qualify for council tax reduction because [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx].
My reasons for applying for a discretionary reduction are as follows [see Reasons below]
I attach an Income & Expenditure statement, showing that I have no surplus income to make payments to these council tax debts, and my latest two bank statements.
[also attach & list anything else that supports your request: receipts, medical reports, statements of expenditure, letters from other people in support]
I look forward to hearing from you within two months of the date of this letter.
If you do not accept my application, I will be appealing to the Valuation Tribunal under section 16(1) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992.
Yours faithfully, [name]
@@MG-nm9gt thanks tried it. But got refused
They're adamant not 2 allow section 13a
@@kainaat8242 same. Then the filth bags stole my home.
Council tax is illegal full stop for one it’s addressed to a person ie your all caps name not the living man
What do you mean? The property is taxed and the people who are liable to pay are named on the bill. Usually the occupier and if there is not one then it's the owner.
It's not like a property can make payments itself.
Council are billing your property as of it's a business trading, it's all in the wording a dwelling is a place of trading not a private residence
@@blackiesun One of the reasons you can not living in a caravan all year is because the council would not be able to make you pay council tax, s while they can claim "Its the property thats taxed and the people in it that need to pay it" its a load of bollocks. At the time they could not get away with yet another tax on the people so they just called it a property tax instead to get around it.
They say we are free but we can not do anything without the governement getting its pound of flesh.
Human beings should not be paying tax, you're right
thank you for this do you have a template i could use ?
Hi Barry. I will post something to my website, this is more keyed to the current covid enviroment we are in. I used this as the basis to get one written off recently. ill post the link here in a mo.
here is the template for you.
www.andygifford.online/debt/get-council-tax-written-off-using-section-13a/
@@AndyTheGabbyCabby Hi Andy thank you so much for the template, I have one more question, I have a summons to go to court this week do I send them the same letter ? many thanks
@@datruthhurts28x More often than not the court summons are generated by the council, there pretty crafty with them.
Assuming this is for non payment have you had any communication with them at all?
You need to Section 13 the council also I would send a seperate letter / email asking for more time to pay and that you have served a section 13, are you on benefits? if not could you get any help that way?
@@AndyTheGabbyCabby Andy I cannot see how they can win in their phony courts because all letters including reminders are not recorded, which equals no contact & no contract. So in these jump up courts my AWNSER is where is proof of contact and even contract with this corporation. These corporation's including the water section just send out bills with no record of contact or contract, if any company sends bills out there has too be proof of contract & contact and the best response is I do not understand or consent, by contacting the council with this 13A angle enters you into a contract with them & it's done on a yearly bases so if you payed last year does not mean you are contracted too this year's bill ?
are they braking the law by pass your info on to a 3rd party under the data protection act?
thanks Sir but this doesnt stop us paying CT altogether only those in hardship the whole thing needs to be scrapped 🤣🤣
This stops it altogether.
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Hi lve just paid 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 plus 2023 iv been paying for 10yrs they are saying l still owe them 500 pounds plus my normal c tax am now 67 yrs old on the 3 july they have put courts costs on loads of times can l claim anythink back of them the stress this has put me through ive been ill for yrs now
Does this also apply in Scotland as my wife has ran up a huge tax bill and I’ve only just found out
Yes it does . Check out "the people's lawyer on YT
I've just got letter from council saying I owe council tax from 1995 to 1999 , I live in scotland also I live in council house , I'm demented
@@janetsimpson4799 they are not allowed to start pursuing a council tax debt over 20 years old
Hi thank you for the advice you are providing, I would be grateful if you could send me a template letter so I can write to the person at my council re a section 13a letter as I have a bailif writing to me re the arrears on my council rax account and I cannot pay, thanks
How’d you go?
Hi. I got enforcement agents on my case for not paying council tax during lockdown. I have paid half ot it direct to the council. How do I get away from enforcement agents and their fees?
How did you get on? It's happening to me now but luckily I live in an apartment so I just keep my door and windows shut to prevent the bailiffs from getting in.
I still don't know how to come around with to pay or not to pay them yet.
Are you sharing sharing sharing people ????? please share .... thank you Andy Pandy pudding and pie, the bills are massive loads of us cry ... to live in rip off britton is a nightmare ... those sloshing in dosh, could'nt care .......Section 13A is a GOD SEND a joy to us lot, but the good news sleepy people ... the main stream media aint telling ya, there's a new kid commin on the block ..Your having a bad time , PRAYERS will ease your pain, Once your awake , make sure this fiasco never happens again .....your governments let you down for the last 16 years...... but the joyful news , don't have anymore fears.... when things come to 'light' and you finally see the TRUTH your situation will brighten up ....Search, you will find the 'PROOF'
Hi there. what do you do if your facing a committal order ? Please advise. Rai x
I need help too.
Can i have a template for tge Council tax
There’s no need to do that because we aren’t obliged to pay council tax in the first place so don’t waste your time writing to them for a reduction just stop paying it and tell them to prove your obligation to pay it which they can’t
yessss!!! finally a bit of savvy!!
Woo… 🙄🙄🙄
@@servicekid7453you got Stockholm Syndrome you sad chump...
Get help
I am paying £1850 a year concil tax here in Manchester. What is the format of the letter to the 13a officer please? Thanks.
Stuff that, thats at least two holidays a year your loosing
Can i share this video
you surely just apply for CTR and thats that, you only pay water and waste.
Hi Andy could I please have a template letter thanks
I believe that it is unlawful or against the law to sell on a debit. And you do not have a contract with the 3rd party to pay them anyway.. however intimidated it may seem .. 😮
Hi Andy. Where is the template. ???
I have seen this ages ago but how to implement it?
I had bailiffs at my door ready to hook up my car for a council tax bill yesterday. They took 1800 and I have no cash for food or rent now?! X
You are in financial hardship, write to the Section 13A officer at the council
I can't afford to pay I'm behind I can't even afford to pay water to as I'm on benefits and do part time work it's not likely I'll be able to keep up payments. I don't even feel I should pay any council tax. If your on benefits you shouldn't have to pay it the rates are a joke. Electricity gas food all going though the roof petrol it's going to be a bad storm people are at breaking point. I can see why single men in their 40s are killing themselves.
If you are in financial hardship write to the Section 13A officer as advised, laying out your circumstances. Keep copies of the letters and send them recorded delivery so you have evidence they were sent.
What about Ontario CANADA?
Council tax is a UK thing. He's not talking about Canada, which will have different laws and taxes.
No obligation to pay it at all
So what happens if it does go to the bailiff as of course when you don’t pay that’s what they do?
Look at comment by Antony Clayton. Be happy. Don't worry!
I've just received a liability order but never received a court summons beforehand .. Is there anything I can do about that??
If you have, it will be the first genuine liability order I have ever heard of, because council tax summonses are dealt with in bulk and the genuine magistrates clerks will have no record. Try phoning them up and checking on your liability number, etc.
The council staff simply hire the court, approx once a month and man it with their own staff. They will do their best to get a monetary agreement with you and, if you have a genuine arguement, they will break their necks to try and stop you actually speaking to the magistrate (always assuming he/she is a genuine magistrate).
@@veganvivjones4655 I already paid my bill in full direct to the council, so no longer owe a single penny for said council tax.. I have also requested proof from council, magistrates and the enforcement agency that a summons and hearing etc actually took place.. Awaiting replies..
Can I have a template letter, please? As a single mum at home, they sent me a huge council tax bill when I moved to this new rented house in band E. I stopped UC 2 months after receiving it because of constant threats, intimidation, blackmails by JobCentre that I was forced to attend... I paid £800 council tax in 1 go and told them I stopped UC and now they are demanding all kind of proofs. I feel gutted that I gave them that money that could have gone to my rent instead. They had sent me a letter from court saying that I had a certain time left to pay the whole £1600 (£260/month). My council tax used to be £58 with help when I was in Tax credit.
What do you mean by threats and intimidation etc from the Job Centre? Why would they do that.
I there ive been paying c tax for the years 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 they said i owed it ive been paying month am a pensoiner now what can i do ill be dead before i finnish juli g
This is no great secret that council's are hiding, it is a discretionary hardship award that any council can make based on individual circumstances of those in financial hardship. It is covered under
Local Government Finance Act 1992, Section 13A.
can you plz do a template as i pay £156 a month.. puts me out of budget and i struggle as a single parent working on zero contracted hours.
U need to stop paying em! 0 hour contract jobs are a joke! Personally i sacrifice food and I'm of a healthy slim weight! Rather keep my roof n heatn then eatn!
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Apply for council tax reduction or council tax discretionary payment
Furthermore, if you have never replied to the council demands for thier tax you have not formed a contract... If they did have a contract they would be able to go through small claims court (it has to be small claims as council tax is a civil matter as the council is a corporation only) as the council don't have a contract they sell the none debt on to bailiff company to intimate and steel items which they have no legal authority to do and it is theft.
If you have already started to make payments then use the benefit loophole.
Then once the bill is paid , and council send new bill for new year, you return it "return to sender" with also written I decline your offer to contract. And keep doing so...do open the door to bailiff or any other enforcement officers and they are acting unlawfully.
They cannot use the small claims court, here's why. Small claims courts and county courts deal with contract law, I.E where a contract exists between two bodies, in Council tax no such contract exists, because you haven't asked them to provide any services to you, furthermore they are packaging a range of services, (many of which you don't need) and are not asking you to pay for those services, moreover they are putting a gun to your head and saying, "pay up or else !". Hence the reason they use magistrates courts, and the process they use within those is not due procedure, they seem to think that someone who is struggling financially to meet their absurd demands for money, is somehow a criminal. I urge anyone struggling to meet their outrageous demands for money to research section 13A.
Stop pushing this FOTL rubbish, it puts people ina worse position
Has anyone found the section 13a template? Can't find it anywhere.
you can wright it off for good.........peace keepers
Could I please have a template for section A13 thankyou kindly .
And me
I need your help!!
I had to pay council tax once I turned 25. I turned 25 in June and the got a bill of £827. Am now receiving bailiff letters
Hi. I can’t find a template on your website?
Application for council tax discretionary reduction - section 13A(1)(c) Local Government Finance Act 1992
My name is [xxxxxx]. I am the [owner/occupier] of [address & postcode].
I am the person liable for council tax. My council tax account number is [999999999].
I write to apply for a discretionary reduction in the amount of council tax under section 13(A)(1)(c) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992 that I owe for the following tax years: [2020/21 and 2021/22].
I am currently in receipt of council tax reduction but I cannot pay the reduced amount OR I have applied for council tax reduction but I will not be able to pay the reduced bill if that is awarded OR I have been told I do not qualify for council tax reduction because [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx].
My reasons for applying for a discretionary reduction are as follows [see Reasons below]
I attach an Income & Expenditure statement, showing that I have no surplus income to make payments to these council tax debts, and my latest two bank statements.
[also attach & list anything else that supports your request: receipts, medical reports, statements of expenditure, letters from other people in support]
I look forward to hearing from you within two months of the date of this letter.
If you do not accept my application, I will be appealing to the Valuation Tribunal under section 16(1) of the Local Government Finance Act 1992.
Yours faithfully, [name]
Dose that apply to n Ireland 13a
No, 13A does not apply in Northern Ireland since they pay domestic rates, not council tax
It’s very costly for the council to recover debts not freely paid and they will attempt to avoid that cost if they can. Remember, after all , that it was the non payment costs that destroyed the poll tax system. Even debt collectors only buy the debt for pennies in the pound as I understand it.
If they won’t cut their coat according to their cloth maybe it’s incumbent upon us to make them do so. Why should we work 5-6-7 days a week to provide for them when they unilaterally decide to only work 4 days a week?
Why are we the only species that pays to live on this planet??? 🤔
Can you take the council to court and get your council tax back.
Court will side with councils. They sleep together.
My council tax has been passed onto bailiffs what's a way around that bud?
Settle the debt
@@servicekid7453 debt ?
@@michaelfraser5723 how else would you describe unpaid bills? Go on, dazzle me 🙄🙄🙄
Council tax 60% towards pensions 30% to debt 10% maybe on local issues!!!! Also it's a demand not an invoice and they don't use proper magistrates court. It's all been one big con!!!!
It's a fake summons but they take it out of my benefits.
What's the second option when it's gone pearshaped😢
13 A works very well ,£6000 NOT PAID ! 👍
Its been Paid by your friends and neighbours and all the decent honest people in your area who pay their bills so that pathetic spongers like you can brag about not paying your council tax,
How not to pay council tax all together ?
I sent my council an email today asking them to provide evidence of obligation. I won’t be paying it until I receive what I’ve asked for.
@@misse9647 thank you, I will follow this too. I can’t find nothing in law for obligation payment of CT. 😅
@@misse9647 can I ask what you wrote to your council in regards to this please
@@misse9647 HIya, would you mind sharing what happened after you emailed them? What did they reply to your question about evidence of obligation? Thanks
@@misse9647 expect some final demands and then a court summons, followed by bailiffs. Please do not believe this Freemen on the Land woo. It never works and gets people into an even deeper hole
i have not paid my council tax in 27 years i got caught today what do i do im in scotland edinburgh thanks
Go to Citizens Advice or another debt charity and get advice. Be completely honest with them about your circumstances. I’m afraid you are likely to end up in court though, with the possibility of being declared bankrupt (unless you can pay the outstanding amounts)
After five years I think it’ll be statute barred so no they won’t be declaring anyone bankrupt.
Find out within 21 days if there bumped or not
@@Ledhoven it’s 6 years for Council Tax and bankruptcy is a possibility depending upon the individuals circumstances
It does not work, we tried it over 2 years ago. If you own a property they just want to steal that property, end of.
Someone has to pay ,why not you ? Do you think everything is free ?!