Botox injections? Dysport injections? Argierline?| Dr Dray💉💉
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- Today I talk about botox injections and dysport injections for wrinkles, facial rejuvenation, sweating, and migraines. I talk about if argierline works as well.
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Ive had Botox for 3 years now. I’m an artist and without going into details, I need to squint all the time while painting ( to see values) and I developed early lines between the eyes and on the forehead. I “use” 30mm every 8 months, and I’m still able to move my face, but the deepening of these wrinkles has stopped. And I love looking fresher ( Botox does not make you look younger, in my opinion ) and well rested. But you are right, all is in the hands of the doctor and mine never over-do it! Tips: my Dr ( certified plastic surgeon...only use vetted professionals! ) has an open house once a year. I go by and buy my Botox that day when it is on sale and have the procedure done whenever it is time!
good tip!
I'm 56 and wish we had understood about sunscreen when I was much younger. I'm taking your advice though and starting to work on it right now. Thank you for all your advice.
Thanks!
I am 54 and lord, yes! If only. Things would look so different today! 😉
You have changed how I look at skin, taking care of it, and most importantly, sunscreen! I’m now wearing SPF 50 on my face everyday. Thank you ❤️☺️
I have been using Argireline for 13 years and it has completely gotten rid of my deep frown lines. I will never stop using it.
Hi, can I apply both Vitamin C and Argireline together?
Good to know!
@@melissa7645 don't use vitamin C with argireline.
@@rachelkellond6313 Why not?
@@melissa7645 Vitamin C can break down the Argireline peptide and will have not the desired effect
The ordinary argireline is $6. I have noticed a huge improvement in fine lines over time. Not a substitute for Botox but it is lovely and cheap.
How do you use it ?
I have been using Retin A for 20 yrs and Botox every 7 months, I have found great results with Argireline over last couple months on static fine lines on the forehead and under eyes.
OMG, thank you so much for this! I have had Botox few times. Liked the results, but had horrible side effects. Massive headaches, full body muscle weakness etc. NOBODY ever told me I should not get Botox due to my autoimmune issues! That explains a LOT! Thank you!
Did the side effects go away?
I had 2 days ago Dysport. Have very bad side effects.
I have used and love 💕 Botox and Dysport. I have had it done at my dermatologist and cosmetic surgeon (eye specialist) offices. Both drs are very conservative when injecting and make me come back for a second visit to see if more is needed rather than just putting it all in at once. I find it usually lasts me 9+ months. I feel it just softens my lines, especially my crows feet and the “ll” between my brows (which made me look angry). This is my once a year treat to myself!!
glad to hear you are having a good experience with it :)
Ive had great results, with realistic expectations!
I love you and your channel! Finally someone that is a specialist that is sharing wonderful, honest, and good info. I wear sunscreen because dermatologist once told me in the late 80's to wear sunscreen every day all year around and I am so grateful. Thank you Dr. Dray for this channel, you are doing a great job! XO
she told you right!
I’ve seen people say their muscles atrophied after Botox making their face sag and that makes me worried!
I’ve heard this before too!
I am just happy being physically fit. Love your input on skincare and such. No botox for me, I just look in the mirror less often.
:) hope you are having a great week Ms Vanessa
Whats your thoughts on face yoga?
Yes please!
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You are very good at teaching Dr. Dray
thanks!
I found your channel yesterday and have been binge watching ever since, thank you so much for taking the time to make videos, knowledge is so important, and you give a lot.
Thanks for watching
Can you do a video on lash serum? Ice heard about Latisse, Rapidlash and Rodan & Fields also has one out now?
Thanks for the video Dr Dray!
Does getting botox in the face muscles really cause the muscles to atrophy because they are paralyzed and not moving? or is it just a misconception and misinformation?
I really want to know your scientific unbiased opinion
Screaming like a little girl! I asked for this video, love you Dr. Dray ❤
thanks!
Yippie, I wasn't expecting you to talk positive on this subject! I have neck muscles that become very tight, and prominent, especially since I injured my cervical spine! I cannot seem to find a well versed practitioner to inject the neck muscles! I also found one type of of injectable fairs better than another!
Some pain doctors can do trigger point injections with lidocaine. It temporarily relaxes the muscle. Maybe won't last as long as botox but won't cause issues with function and less chance of bad side effects.
Who wants a meet & great botox party in Nashville?? Oh, and would someone please book Dr Drays plane and hotel please.
Thanks ♡♡♡
I did Argierline serum with microneedeling and it really works! I'm still surprised that it did!
I’m 40 and have been getting Botox for a few years. Best thing I’ve ever done for myself. I love the results! Don’t think I’ll ever be without it now.
glad to hear you have had a good experience
botox poisoning your brain
If you stop now, your skin will become more flacid than if you have never done it.
Argireline is not meant to penetrate any deeper than "what you can see". It is a TEMPORARILY topical solution for wrinkles, fine lines, fatty deposits/bags under the eyes.It is NOT going to help anything against the just mentioned things, also it will have no effect on saggy skin (jawline) or hanging upper eyelids .Taken this in consideration, it CAN help with superficial fine lines.Indeed, it just stays ON the skin and does its skin-paralyzing work there, so that part does not move anymore. So if you use it, it prevents the SKIN (not muscle) from folding up everytime your face moves, in the exact spot where you put it .Logically, if it sortof freezes that spot for many hours during the day, the wrinkling is bound to get less visible... also a side effect can be, that the skin is using other parts of the skin to make movement possible, so one can develop a temporary sort of wrinkling looking effect next to the place where you use it.Argireline comes in many strenghts and recipes.One powerful one for a temporary "ironing" effect is Instantly Ageless from Jeunesse, especcially fo a night out, to look good during daytime (5-8 hours it holds), or for a photoshoot. It really wipes away under eye bags like magic. But only for an certain amount of hours, when you wash your face, the truth comes back up.I have a lot of personal experience with this peptide, I am not a seller nor do I have any intererests (financially) in argireline. Just saying it like it is!
Any brand or product that carries argireline?thanks!
@@strc5225 I've used Victoria Principal's Reclaim for many years and have been pleased.
How much knowledge!do you know if argirelineor msm in interacts withbotox dose inyections competing with it?thanks
I don't understand. How would skin move without any muscle intervention? I mean, what does it do its 'paralyzing work' on exactly? Would you care to explain, or provide your source of information, or did you just see some effect and then back-created a potential explanation?
You are such a cool and fun person to hang out with ❤️
glad to hear :)
I've used Agierline and I must say I notice not a freezing effect to where i can move my forehead but it's heavier and feels like almost i have to really try to move it
You have an amazing sense of humor :) Love watching your videos for the scientific no nonsense content as well as the positive energy that you spread. Thank you!
Thanks!
Please Dr.Dray do a video on fillers
Dr Dray, can we have an updated video about botox and side effects? Can people with autoimmune diseases or inflammatory diseases have it? Hope you are reading this.
This was such a good question. But no reply!
I had dysport 2 days ago and having very bad side effects. I would no recommend it.
@@marym3355 what kind? Can you tell us?
Maybe Dr Dray sees this.
@@melaniagheorghe9256 me and my partner had it. Both experiencing the same effects. Extreme migraines, drowsiness, muscle weakness, insomnia, racing heart, sweats, panic attack at night, depression.
It looks like Dysport is much more powerful than Botox. We haven’t slept for 2 nights.
I just love how passionate you get when you talk about something that is complete crap. It cracks me up. Thanks for the info. I've been wondering your thoughts on Botox. 💕
thanks!
Love this, love you, and love my botox. For my personal situation botox is the best money I spend on myself. Between the botox and some initial filler, the two huge creases I had on my forehead have gone away. I was SO embarrassed and insecure bc of them. I actually teared up in my derm's office thanking her for helping me feel beautiful again when the results started to show. Thanks for this video- was interesting to learn more about it!
so glad to hear you are having good results Ms Carolyn
Dr Dray thank you Dr. Dray :)
I was diagnosed with hyperhidrosis of the palms when i was really young and tried every treatment available and the only thing thats worked is botox injections. I gave up a lot of activities because of my permanently wet hands. I stopped cello/piano. I couldnt do tennis. Writing essays during school exams was so stressful. I stopped drawing. Shaking hands on an interview, holding hands with someone i dated. All of these things caused me so much anxiety. Botox is my miracle and has improved my quality of life tremendously. It was really difficult to find a derm who would administer injections into the palms but it was worth the hunt! I also had two corrective jaw surgeries a few years ago and the condition is exacerbated by clenching/grinding my teeth at night and im looking into getting botox into the mandible. I am an unusually medically high maintenance person but god damn i love botox.
I am so happy to hear that this helped :)
miya Hi I have hyperhydrosis of the head, neck and upper body and it’s so embarrassing sometimes and really does cause anxiety. Glad the Botox is working for you. I’m attending the dermatologist here in the uk but it’s taking a long time to get it sorted, even only a little bit would help x
Can you do a video on what you think of the 10 step Korean skin care please
Jaclynlozano Silly. Skin is smart enough and you should just use what your skin needs . In fact there's lots of girls who have no knowledge of the ingredients in the products and ingredients in products may clash with each other or render each other useless. Each product contains atleast 10-20 ingredients. Imagine using 10 products on the skin in one shot .
Argireline and Matrixyl is amazing for me, definitely smooths stuff out and visibly reduces wrinkles over a short period of time ✨💁🏼❤️
Alvina Rayne Keto Lifestyle & Vlogs do you mind sharing which brand ?
dzlove Sadly 💯 true!
Ditto
Always enjoy your videos, Dr. Dray. In my experience, I had good luck with the Argireline. I used one drop every morning on the left nasal labial fold. After two months of continued use It did erase the wrinkle. I'm not interested at all in having any procedures done on my face, but love to experiment with things I can do at home. Perfect cup!!! Many blessings..MaryEllen
many of those serums have things like gellan gum and acrylates that reflect light and create the illusion of smoothing skin....hard to say that it is actually the argireline...i see a smoothing effect using the hada labo gel cream or the neutorgena hydroboost gel cream, which both have those same ingredeints and no argierline
MaryEllen After 60 k
MaryEllen After 60 Hi MaryEllen, The Skin Deva serum doesnt have the ingredients that Dr Dray mentioned but it does have Matryxl and yyaluronic acid in addition to the argirilene so it maybe hard to pin point exactly the results. Also, the only way to determine that it is really the argirilene that is having results would be to stop your tretinoin and any other actives you are using to really test it. Tretinoin definitely has an effect on smoothing lines that increases as you continue to use it. I have been using Tazerac and then generic tretinoin for a period longer than 30 years and even with aging I see results. Cheers!
Hi Ginger. You know I'm not going to stop Retin A, lol. But when I did this study, the only thing I changed was adding one drop of the Skin Deva on my left nasal labial fold. After 2 months I saw a big improvement. In fact, I just watched the video I filmed showing the results, and I wasn't dreaming. You are way ahead of the skincare game, than me. Cheers, right back at you...ME
MaryEllen After 60 I’ve had a lot of luck with Argireline as well. I apply The Ordinary’s (super cheap!) where I get Botox between eyebrows and crows feet and have done this since one month post injections. It’s over three months since I’ve had my injections and I have very little recurring movement. I always put in on and rub it in after all of my numerous acids and retain-a microgel.
I love watching your videos. Anytime I see a skincare product that is being "raved" about, I always always check your page to see if you have anything to say about it. The ordinary Argireline was being raved about and I won't be purchasing it after this video, so thank you!!
You are so amazing at what you do. Thank you for being you!
Thanks!
I got the significant eyelid droop, even though my dermatologist did the injections. It was pretty stressful. It's taken almost 6 months to get back close to normal...
Love seeing that pretty face giving so much information I feel like so many Drs are dismissive and don't inform patients we really need to know about our bodies and treatments for us I might just talk to my neurologist about botox for my occular and regular migraines! Thankyou
Dysport injected between my eyebrows by my dermatologist caused droopy eyelids so she had me use eye drops that helped fix that issue. Currently I have Xeomin injections done by my plastic surgeon and have great results that last nearly a year. Many doctors, like mine, offer price reduction sales, so it's a good thing to get on their email lists!
glad to hear you are having a good experience with it
Great video! Thank you Dr. Dray Have you ever discussed Coenzyme Q10 and if it has any benefits in a serum or pill for our skin? If not please consider doing so.
Looking forward to your video on fillers. And, thank you for the good information on Botox. Very interesting!
:)
I work for a dermatologist so about a year ago I thought I would try botox (because it was free and why not?) And I LOVE IT. I've done it for forehead wrinkles, underarm sweating, and also my masseters for headaches, and it makes such a big difference for my quality of life!
glad to hear you have had a good experience :)
omg hahaha wtf
That mug sums up your channel so perfectly. Major kudos to whoever gave it to you!! ❤️
:)
Been poking myself for some years now. Thought I knew everything about neuromodulators, then I saw this. Thank you De. Dray.
Very interesting that there is no data on Botox preventing wrinkles. Very eye opening. So many people speak as if it is a sure outcome. I find it fascinating how that happens.
In theory it makes sense
I can see that.
Thank you, Dr. Dray! As usual, I love your no BS educational’s.
thanks!
As always thank you for your valuable time.
I feel like watching your videos always gives me so much knowledge.
thanks!
Thank you Dr. Dray! I literally have been binge watching your videos the last few days! I cannot tell you how excited I get when I hear Oh hey guys! Puts a smile on my face. I was going to use this as my anti aging antioxidant serum. I will defitnely skip it now. You are the encyclopedia of skincare knowledge and I thank you so much for sharing it all with us! Because of you I have simplified my routine so so much. During the day it is toner or essence, moisturizer and sunscreen. At night it is double cleansing and the same toner or essence unless I am using retinol which I am now doing 2-3x a week and that is it. I thought I needed a vitamin c and all these others actives but I was just damaging my skin. Plus, I have niacinamide in my moisturizer so there is my antioxidant! Thank you again. I cannot wait to take this skincare journey. Thank you for being my guide! I appreciate you and am so grateful to you! ❤️
Argireline works and is completely safe. And vitamin c is one of the best things/antioxidants you can put on your skin, especially when there is vitamin e and ferulic acid combined with the vitamin c serum. Don't just not use something that is great for your skin just because Dr. Dray doesn't like something. Do your own research and watch/listen to multiple resources. I love dr dray but you should never just take one person's word as law.
@16:30 Argierline
Great video! A video on fillers would be awesome as well!
Thanks
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My injector won injector of the year this year Australia she is a director of nursing and shes allways up with the new technologies
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Very informative! I have been getting Botox for my chronic migraines and it has worked wonders! Bonus-no wrinkles on my forehead 👌🏻
Amie Thomson Did your insurance cover it? Since it was for migranes?
can really help
Yes, my insurance pays for it (we are military), however I had to try many different medications before my insurance would pay for it. It took about 8 months of trial and error on different medications to qualify. Well worth the wait! I went from about 10-15 migraines a month to a max of 5 🤗
Amie Thomson Thank you for responding. Good to know botox is an option after trying other medications.
Me too Arnie! It’s a life saver for migraines and they always have a little bit left. And my pain MD doesn’t like to throw it away which she must do with me in the room.
Thank you for the real talk. I appreciate that you share your knowledge!
thanks for watching
You don’t have any neck wrinkles! That band” you pointed out is a shadow being cast by your trachea; you have no wrinkles that I can see!
😝😜🤞🤞Holding my breath for the fillers video!!
:)
Dr Dray please please Dr 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I want botox sooo bad can't wait to hear your information on it. You usually post about so many things that I want to know about. Thanks!
:)
Very informative as always! Thank you☺
Thanks!
LOVE LOVE LOVE your videos. Very informative. You answered all the questions I had about botox. Thank you . You are awesome:)
Thanks!
Botox to help treat rosacea ? Would love to hear your feedback Dr. Dray
can improve some of the symptoms, yes
I have considered Botox for a forehead line, however, it’s there even when my muscles resting. So now I don’t think I’ll bother with it. Thank you for the helpful info!
:)
I get 33 Botox needles for migraines every 3 months.
Do you have any complications? Any benefit?
I love the explanation you gave and thank you as always for saving us money! I am so behind watching your videos....catching up😘
:)
But my question is, if argereline doesn't work? why ageless work? argireline supposed to be the main component.
I love that mug! Thanks for this Dr. Dray. Ive been considering botox for my forehead. Thanks for helping me to make a better informed choice!!
it is cute :)
Dr. Dray is very smart...
I JUST LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!!!!!!!!!!!! No sugar...you are a straight shooter. I get botox once or twice a year and love it. My derm took a picture of my original complaint area ....the 11s. When ever I go in complaining maybe the last botox wasn't up to snuff. He pulls out the picture. I scream no put it away!!! Thank pharma for botox...lol In the past I have had a real problem with sunscreen, finally my derm suggested Elta MD sunscreen and I have been wearing it everyday. I watched your video and saw the neutrogena 100 spray on sunscreen and I ran out and bought it.Thanks for the great videos.
Thanks :)
Star wars??? I laughed so hard. You are just delightful.
Thank you for sharing this information. Besides the price what is the difference between Dysport and Botox?
the concentration of botulinum toxin is less in dysport so when switching from botox to dysport more units may be needed...so if you go somewhere that prices by unit then dysport may appear cheaper, but more units may be needed, so price not going to differ much; dysport is a smaller molecule and spreads a little more, meaing the injection technique is really important to prevent side effects in neighboring areas; neither is better than the other..they are essentially the same as far as results
Regarding adverse long term effects....what would be the effect of prolonged paralyzing of a muscleor particular facial muscles?
You're so right about Argireline NOT being a replacement for botox, "Analysis of the mechanism of action showed that Argireline significantly inhibited neurotransmitter release with a potency similar to that of BoNT A, although as expected, it displayed much lower efficacy than the neurotoxin. " (Paper titled "A synthetic hexapeptide (Argireline) with antiwrinkle activity." published in the International Journal of Cosmetic Sciences.) Not a whole lot of research to support it, nor any long-term research, but it has been shown to work.
Personally, I found it worked! ...Right before it destroyed my moisture barrier haha
it does not penetrate the stratum corneum well at all
Great info as always! Are there any other options that can improve the appearance of horizontal lines on the neck at rest? Thanks for these Q&As
filler
Hi Andrea, this was a very informative and interesting video, as you've accustomed to us, I think is fabulous that botox serves, not only as an effective cosmetic tool, but also as treatment for migraines and other neurological diseases as well as hyperhidrosis.Thank you for enlighten us.xxooo
Thanks
I love your channel, you have saved me sooo much money! Thank you! 🙏🏻
Can you please tell me if taking vitamin supplements improves your skin & hair?
it does not, unless there is a true underlying vitamin deficiency, like scurvy (rare)
I suffer from dystonia and Botox saved m'y life . I have been getting Botox injections in m'y neck every thing 3 months for the last 20 years.
I'm not sure if you have already done a video about smoker's lines around the mouth? I appreciate your work. Thanks for your passion and rigor! :)
Very informative thanks. Any difference between Botox and Dyasport?
they differ in the amount needed, and it is sort of an art knowing how to work with the different toxins for different muscle groups
I have Sjogren's and considering getting Botox in the future. I had no idea that I should check with my rheumatologist. Thank you for your thorough and very informative videos as always.
it is a conservative recommendation, yes
I wish I started wearing sunscreen earlier in my life. It has even been suggested that it's not Retin A that slows down aging but it's actually the sunscreen bc when using Retin A people are using sunscreen along with it. Makes sense to me :)
:)
I envy your skin. Is it all skin care and have you had cosmetic procedure done on your face?
Thanks for the great info Dr Dray :D
I just found your channel and I LOVE it! Thank you for sharing your knowledge 💜
Hi Dr Dray! New sub here... awesome info! Was wondering if you could give your thoughts on the use of microcurrent devices? Do they work at all? Have seen some great reviews but would love to hear some advice from a professional. Thanks!
Lisa Hutchinson I'd be interested in this as well. Great suggestion.
they do not
Thank you for your honest reply!!
“Hip to the hip to the rose hip”. 😂 There you go making me smile again.
lol! happy wednesday Ms Shannon
Thanks for talking about this. Very informative.👍
Thanks!
You seem so sweet and honest :) thank you for your channel
Thank you for sharing your expertise. I hope you have a blessed day
You too Ms Tonia
Doc, I love my spf. As a very fair-skinned lady it's necessary for me to not die, as well as preventive maintenance against aging. Photo aging and free radical damage is for sure a real thing, and definitely contributed to overall aging of the skin. BUT, all the SPF in the world can't stop expression lines. I'm plagued/ blessed with a very expression-y face, which is great since I'm an actor but sucks when I was 16 and aready have permanent lines on my forehead. I'm now 32 and they really haven't gotten much worse because I've always been very interested in active cosmetic ingredients and cosmetic chemistry in general so I try to take very good care of my skin with exfoliation and proper ingredients. Nothing but a one-time Botox shot let me rest my muscles long enough for them to flatten them. Currently researching for my own super duper special anti-aging serum that has as many vitamins, antioxidants, ALL the peptides, amino acids, hyaluronic acid , and general Collegen building power as I can fit into a single bottle. With skin penetrating enhancers. All the correct pH LOL.
Oh Lort! I thought I was gonna need to have an intervention with you on Star Wars vs Star Trek. Lol! Great video as always!
lol!
🙌🏻 Loved it. Great video. Informative and entertaining. I love common sense videos based on evidence not marketing.
Thanks!
Would love to hear your opinions on prp injections/treatment under the eyes .... wondering if it’s worth it ?
There are sterile ampoule for mesotherapy of argireline.
Great video! Looking forward to a video on fillers. Congratulations on 70k!
thanks!
Please tell us your thoughts on the ingredients for Tati’s new vitamins when they come out on friday!
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Dr Dray th-cam.com/video/fVo_3iElEKM/w-d-xo.html
She’s just a big beauty TH-camr and she made her own brand. Her first product is a bottle of these vitamins that she’s saying actually work but they’re like $40. They’ll be up for sale on Friday along with the ingredients list!
Really liking your videos by the way💕
I think Dr Dray would advise a healthy plant based diet for your vitamin needs rather than a $40 bottle of them formulated by a TH-cam shill that cannot be independently verified.
lol :-)
It’s a fucking joke . Supplements can only go so far. A healthy diet is more important than any supplements. Of course people do see results from supplements but she’s selling it at that pricing and it’s so iffy. “Clinically proven” lol. Out of all new Brands, the only one I trust is KraveBeauty by Liahyoo.
Another great video looking forward to the one on fillers I'm saving my money I've been on my new skin care routine now for almost a month thanks to you. Sunscreen and Cerave products green tea and you tube. Hugs
thanks!
Great information as always!! Please do a video on fillers when u can. My wrinkles are past the botox stage. Maybe fillers can help? Thanks . :)
How thorough! Wonderful as always. Thx
Thanks!
I love the mug~so cute! Great video! Can botox can help "train" the facial muscles to no longer repeat some of the movements that made the line or wrinkle in the first place, by weakening and/or shrinking the muscle over time, so at some point, one doesn't have to repeat injections?
thanks! that is one theory...i emphasize the word theory
Wow!! It sounds like Botox can help do a lot for people. I think I'm going to use my sunscreen and hope mother nature will be kind to me. Thank you so much for the great review, and have a great evening.
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Do you think fillers like Sculptra and Raidese actually generate collagen production? Or is it some kind gimmick to trick ppl into buying them in the first place?
they do
I would love to see a vid giving your opinion on all those skincare threads going around the internet. What do you think of them?
i don't read internet skincare threads to be honest, lol...too much other reading i like to keep up with on pubmed
Love all the education you offer!
Thank you