Competitive wise Low profile wins overall, shorter actuation means faster inputs. Hence new mechanical keyboards with Rapid Trigger and hall effect are taking over gaming market, Osu and FPS enthusaists switching to it, also Low Profiles are closest to OG Arcade buttons like OBSF etc. They actually made a good decission switching to low profile, for example Razer Kitsune is using lolw profile lazer switches (fast input). Also sliding is much easier on S16.
To each there own my friend. I only wish the buttons were as large as the s16 but with the same profile. Might end up getting an enclosure that fits Japanese buttons.
I just got the G16, it was the cheaper option by $10 on Amazon Canada but after watching your video I do like it's the thicker and heavier option along with the mx switches, it's my first leverless controller so looking forward to testing it out.
It's all down to preference my friend. Most controllers use linear, but some people like to feel a tactile bump to know that they pressed a button. I use tactile switches on my keyboard and play games like Valorant without an issue. But my leverless is linear. It's all about what you like and what you perform best with.
Thanks for the video! Just thinking about getting into lever less and highly considering Haute. As other commenters have said - don’t worry about being a professional content creator; your video adds value and that’s all that matters. Thank you and best of luck with your channel!
12:50 instead of using the middle finger to go up or down, for me it feels more natural if there is a button so that I can use the index finger to move up... that feels more natural
Thank you SO much for such a detailed and informative review! Such thorough reviews are so hard to come by and you answered every question I had and then some!
Nice, I was looking for this! Wanted to go for the S16 for the WASD position and low profile switches, but still had doubts. Seeing them side by side helped a lot!
Hey! I do not play any 360 characters Tekken doesn't really have that motion. If you need to slide, I would def go with the s16. I can't imagine how that would work on the g16.
@@Realyst ah thats cool haha , i use it for kbd in tekken, i just spent a few days modding my mixbox in a couple ways, buying this wouldve saved me time n effort but theres no wrist rest like my mixbox so we will see
nice comparison buddy, thank you! I have a G12, and I'm really thinking about buying the M model too...I'm loving it, really good quality, with affordable prices.
No you cannot. There are some mid height switches you can put on the g16, but they still will not be as flat as the true low profiles like what's on the S16.
Managed to grab the T16 since I feel like the G and S series would be a bit too small, but hell, it feels it would be good to grab one of those for just traveling purposes. Also gotta love the little mixup at 18:22
Great video! I do have a question though. Is there a noticable distance in button travel between the two? It looks like G16 has longer and S16 shorter, but I wonder how noticeable it is when using them
Travel is definitely different. Shorter on the S16 as you said. But is it so much of a difference that it would effect performance in a major way? I do not think so. But if you are a perfectionist and want the faster device, it will probably be the S16. I just personally don't think it's by very much.
Thanks for the video first of all! I got g16 too and have a question - button caps pop off if I scratch edges quickly for KBD. Do you know a way around it? Different caps?
Yes that happens on mine as well. It's a known thing. You can use different caps. Uusing different switches helped a littled as well so if you plan on changing the switches anyway, hold off and see if the caps still pop off after the change. If they still do, then you can change the keycaps.
@@Realyst thank you. Ordered some caps anyway, at least should look better, but someone on Reddit said they are more stable in their experience. May try switches like yours if nothing changes with caps.
@@Realyst received the caps now, PWS/Stove-top Style. They pop off just the same 😄. Blue color looks nicer than default transparent ones though. What I also tried is to put these caps on my keyboard MX Cherry Red switches and do same fast scratching - they stay in place. Also when taking them off Cherry Red I can feel like they sit tighter, while on G16 default switches caps slide off easily. So, maybe eventually I'll switch the switches on G16.
I got a G16 a few days ago and was contemplating if I should buy silent switches..... After that comparison yeah... I will keep it as it is. Maybe it was just really quiet but those silent switches barely make a difference.
Yea it's a little bit quieter, but not much. I think it's the nature of the keycaps and switches together. Might not be possible to quiet them down without pressing them lighter.
Thanks for the vid, was looking for differences between those 2, kinda like both for different reasons and can't decided lol Also is there a downside to not go for 16 button layout ? I kinda don't like having extra buttons, but who knows if I'm gonna use them
Totally up to you. You can turn the extra buttons off if you want and still get the extra buttons to leave yourself the option of using them down the line.
Do the button caps come off easily? I've heard people saying their button caps would pop off constantly while they are playing. With something like sanwa buttons, you can slap hard on them all day without worry, so I'm still deciding.
Hey friend. In some cases yes, the caps do sometimes pop off like if you press them at the edge and stuff like that. The issue is the caps themselves and not the switches. So if you get new caps, you should be good. I got caps for my G16 at Evo, cost like $12. I know it adds to the cost of the controller, but it still ends up being cheaper then a Kistune or Vewlix.
Due to the WASD layout you can play shootemup and any arcade game with ease on these like a normal arcade stick. Can't really do that with hitbox layouts.
@@Atomic-Punk Had the same question myself and what I did was to download the top down image of both on my phone, zoom for the irl size and position my fingers on the WASD, just to get the position they would be and see if it'd be comfortable or not
@@Realyst It's actually the fighting game aspect that I'm curious about. For example: You're on P2 side and you want to do a hop kick or a jump forward. Does you middle finger feel like the jump/side step button is out of place?
Dear friends, this comparison is very detailed, I really appreciate it❤
Oh wow. Thanks so much! Glad you liked it. Appreciate you stopping in.
Is it possible to program the buttons underneath the X/A button to be another down input?
@@heroicsquirrel3195Yes. You can program any button to be anything you want.
@@Realyst yeah i got an s16, its super good
@@heroicsquirrel3195 🔥
No, you aren't a professional and yet, you were much more thorough than most professionals. Loved it and I'd go to you again, mistakes and all.
Competitive wise Low profile wins overall, shorter actuation means faster inputs. Hence new mechanical keyboards with Rapid Trigger and hall effect are taking over gaming market, Osu and FPS enthusaists switching to it, also Low Profiles are closest to OG Arcade buttons like OBSF etc. They actually made a good decission switching to low profile, for example Razer Kitsune is using lolw profile lazer switches (fast input). Also sliding is much easier on S16.
To each there own my friend. I only wish the buttons were as large as the s16 but with the same profile. Might end up getting an enclosure that fits Japanese buttons.
I just got the G16, it was the cheaper option by $10 on Amazon Canada but after watching your video I do like it's the thicker and heavier option along with the mx switches, it's my first leverless controller so looking forward to testing it out.
The fact I've been contemplating between both of these for the past week then came across your video. Thank you for the comparison.
Glad I could help!
Great Video, great explanation. tried to figure out differences between tactile vs linear. After some research need to go for linear, am I right?
It's all down to preference my friend. Most controllers use linear, but some people like to feel a tactile bump to know that they pressed a button. I use tactile switches on my keyboard and play games like Valorant without an issue. But my leverless is linear. It's all about what you like and what you perform best with.
Very enticeful video, went with the s16 but love the comparison. thank you for the video!
I appreciate the video it has helped me pick which one I want to go for
You did a great job on this, thanks for making the video. It helped a lot!
I hope it helped you choose between the two.
With MX Switches you have THOUSANDS of choices to choose from. Choc V1 switches you have like 10 😭I have been enjoying the Sunsets and Robins tho
Thanks for the video! Just thinking about getting into lever less and highly considering Haute. As other commenters have said - don’t worry about being a professional content creator; your video adds value and that’s all that matters. Thank you and best of luck with your channel!
12:50 instead of using the middle finger to go up or down, for me it feels more natural if there is a button so that I can use the index finger to move up... that feels more natural
Thank you SO much for such a detailed and informative review! Such thorough reviews are so hard to come by and you answered every question I had and then some!
Really appreciate you posting this!!!
Nice, I was looking for this! Wanted to go for the S16 for the WASD position and low profile switches, but still had doubts. Seeing them side by side helped a lot!
LOVE THIS! very nice done. the DETAILS on point!
So what Cherry 🍒 MX switches do fit in the G16? The faster the Actuation the better
Any normal MX switches will fit as long as they aren't low profile.
great comparison ! I think this is the first video in english that compared these 2 models
do you play any 720 motion character, i usually do the slide; can you do that on the g16? i saw that the button are to high
Hey! I do not play any 360 characters Tekken doesn't really have that motion. If you need to slide, I would def go with the s16. I can't imagine how that would work on the g16.
Is it possible to program the buttons underneath the X/A button to be another down input?
That is exactly what I do! Every button is programmable to whatever button you want.
@@Realyst ah thats cool haha , i use it for kbd in tekken, i just spent a few days modding my mixbox in a couple ways, buying this wouldve saved me time n effort but theres no wrist rest like my mixbox so we will see
nice comparison buddy, thank you! I have a G12, and I'm really thinking about buying the M model too...I'm loving it, really good quality, with affordable prices.
Hey,
Can I change the switches on the g16 to low profile switches, unfortunately I don’t like high profile switches on the g16
No you cannot. There are some mid height switches you can put on the g16, but they still will not be as flat as the true low profiles like what's on the S16.
U did great!
Good tech, good controllers... I've just bought one!
Very detailed video,keep it up man.
Appreciate it! Thanks a lot.
Managed to grab the T16 since I feel like the G and S series would be a bit too small, but hell, it feels it would be good to grab one of those for just traveling purposes.
Also gotta love the little mixup at 18:22
Great video! I do have a question though. Is there a noticable distance in button travel between the two? It looks like G16 has longer and S16 shorter, but I wonder how noticeable it is when using them
Travel is definitely different. Shorter on the S16 as you said. But is it so much of a difference that it would effect performance in a major way? I do not think so. But if you are a perfectionist and want the faster device, it will probably be the S16. I just personally don't think it's by very much.
Thanks for the video first of all! I got g16 too and have a question - button caps pop off if I scratch edges quickly for KBD. Do you know a way around it? Different caps?
Yes that happens on mine as well. It's a known thing. You can use different caps. Uusing different switches helped a littled as well so if you plan on changing the switches anyway, hold off and see if the caps still pop off after the change. If they still do, then you can change the keycaps.
@@Realyst thank you. Ordered some caps anyway, at least should look better, but someone on Reddit said they are more stable in their experience. May try switches like yours if nothing changes with caps.
@@MrEpicWinner Let me know how they turn out.
@@Realyst received the caps now, PWS/Stove-top Style. They pop off just the same 😄. Blue color looks nicer than default transparent ones though. What I also tried is to put these caps on my keyboard MX Cherry Red switches and do same fast scratching - they stay in place. Also when taking them off Cherry Red I can feel like they sit tighter, while on G16 default switches caps slide off easily. So, maybe eventually I'll switch the switches on G16.
I got a G16 a few days ago and was contemplating if I should buy silent switches..... After that comparison yeah... I will keep it as it is. Maybe it was just really quiet but those silent switches barely make a difference.
Yea it's a little bit quieter, but not much. I think it's the nature of the keycaps and switches together. Might not be possible to quiet them down without pressing them lighter.
Thanks for the vid, was looking for differences between those 2, kinda like both for different reasons and can't decided lol
Also is there a downside to not go for 16 button layout ? I kinda don't like having extra buttons, but who knows if I'm gonna use them
Totally up to you. You can turn the extra buttons off if you want and still get the extra buttons to leave yourself the option of using them down the line.
Do the button caps come off easily? I've heard people saying their button caps would pop off constantly while they are playing. With something like sanwa buttons, you can slap hard on them all day without worry, so I'm still deciding.
Hey friend. In some cases yes, the caps do sometimes pop off like if you press them at the edge and stuff like that. The issue is the caps themselves and not the switches. So if you get new caps, you should be good. I got caps for my G16 at Evo, cost like $12. I know it adds to the cost of the controller, but it still ends up being cheaper then a Kistune or Vewlix.
@@Realyst Thank you for your reply.
Finally been waitin for a comparison video like this.
Thank You! Good Review.
Great video!
Great video man!
Thanks for rhe video
What do you use it for if not fighting games? Retro?
I use it for fighting games. But I can see someone using this to play retro games. Why not?
Due to the WASD layout you can play shootemup and any arcade game with ease on these like a normal arcade stick. Can't really do that with hitbox layouts.
S13/S16 not S12.
My bad. There is a G12 though. That's where I got mixed up.
Mind if I ask you a question? I'm debating between the 2 myself
Fire away.
@Realyst Does the position on the "w" on the G series feel uncomfortable?
It's slightly moved over to the right due to the screen.
@@Atomic-Punk Had the same question myself and what I did was to download the top down image of both on my phone, zoom for the irl size and position my fingers on the WASD, just to get the position they would be and see if it'd be comfortable or not
@@Atomic-Punk How about I play a few non-fighting games and see how it feels and get back to you in a day or two.
@@Realyst It's actually the fighting game aspect that I'm curious about.
For example: You're on P2 side and you want to do a hop kick or a jump forward.
Does you middle finger feel like the jump/side step button is out of place?