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I love how Loki finally got the throne he always wanted, but at a point in his character development that he really didn’t want it. Such a beautiful way to do this ending.
Loki isn’t preventing the multiversal war, he’s just giving the multiverse a chance to thrive while the TVA monitors and prunes dangerous Kang Variants. I’m guessing it’ll be the TVA that brings together the New Avenger or any other Avengers teams to fight the Council of Kangs. There’s no season 3, this is the end of Lokis story, but still leaves it open for him to return.
It’ll most likely be Loki who recruits the Avengers since they first teamed up to stop him. I’m hoping it’s the OG cast since Loki can pull individuals from different timelines. Maybe he recruits Thor first and Thor tells him what happened after Endgame. Also, they are preventing war by pruning Kang variants that are dangerous to the timeline. Now, did Loki erase the TVA’s memories? At least the main 6 in that Loom Room? They didn’t necessarily say. Maybe we’ll see Kang recruit his own Avengers to fight against Loki in Secret Wars, unless that rumor about Kang being out and Doom being in is true. The only person who knows what’s happening next is the God of Stories, Kevin Feige.
This show proved that a good team of talented movie makers can take a Marvel Product and create scenes where two characters are just sitting at a table talking and entertain the viewer. Well done to the entire team.
Destined to lose, on a throne he didnt want, alone as he didnt want, but to save his friends and let them live on. Cheers to the hero loki! Odin would be proud.
Loki gets the throne he ultimately realizes he never wanted. That's some amazing story telling and character development. Hiddleston may have also just given the best performance in the history of the MCU in this episode.
To me, the peak of acting was achieved by Chris Hemsworth as Thor in Avengers Endgame. From depicting the trauma of failing to prevent a genocide to the encounter with his mom and the massive relief when he realized he was still worthy, the range was massive and he pulled it off perfectly.
@commentor93 excellent choice also. Love Hemsworth in that movie. There's just something about Hiddleston's face in that last shot that stays with me. Melancholy at the thought of being trapped at the end of time forever but with a little bit of happiness and gratitude for his friends helping him realize who he really was.
He begins to value other things and people, only to have to take a throne he doesnt want to make sure everything he loves survives and thrives, but alone.
I love how they brought everything around, such a well thought out story arc. One touch I truly loved was the use of the same episode title for both the first and final episode, "Glorious Purpose".
I also loved the "For you, for all of us" is also what he said at the end of the first Thor movie before falling into space, but now has a new, deeper meaning
@@mitsukitai2713 someone on Reddit also,pointed out that the first time he said it in Thor, he let go and fell into the abyss. This time, he stepped over the edge yet again, but instead of falling, he created his own path. I think there are so many references to his past. It’s a beautiful ending, even if I would hate never seeing him again.
He didn't want a throne and he didn't want to be alone, but he winds up with both. Astonishing character development and visuals throughout this entire series. I hope this writing team gets to work on more MCU shows/movies. Absolutely wonderful job!!!
Branches of timeline turn into Yggdrasill.. *Mindblown* One of the BEST finale episodes I've ever seen. And to this day by far the best Marvel cinematography. Thank you Tom Hiddleston
He replaced the loom with something better. Instead of a loom with a singular purpose, Loki became an intelligent loom. He learned physics for a few centuries, learn great power comes great responsibility, love for one’s self(and alternative self), protect those you care for.
I watched your Ep 4-5 react immediately after watching the finale. The scene in the bar where Sylvie pushes him to admit "I want my friends back. I don't want to be alone" hits SOOO much harder after seeing the character's conclusion.
It’s so heartbreaking that he had finally found where he belonged, finally become a better version of himself, only to have to give it up again. From the first season on, we are constantly told that he’s scared to be alone, and for that to be his fate for the rest of time is so sad. Still, an amazing conclusion for his arc.
When Mobius said “Let time pass”, I feel that was sort of his way of feeling close to Loki. Just a theory though. I’m glad Loki got his arc. Hiddleston IS Loki, after 14 years he’s done playing Loki but i’m grateful he gave us one of the best characters in the MCU. Couldn’t imagine anyone else playing Loki
Before Mobius told Sylvie "let time pass"...when they were talking ....there's a shot of Mobius standing in a sun flare color of green/yellow/gold...Loki's color.
I believe HWR when he said that he was tired. He was banking on Loki taking the throne and continuing the old ways. He was so sure there is only 2 options, but Loki found a 3rd one, thus breaking the loop and ensuring the survival and freedom of the multiverse.
i think hwr is kang from antman. hwr meets himself in the past and sets himself on the path to become hwr(dying in antman). explains him talking about reincarnation and his control of time. we also saw kang in his antman costume at the tva in season 1.
He doesn't protect against other Kangs. That was part of the sacrifice and advice he took from Sylvie. People have the right to fight and possibly die trying.
I love this ending even though it's so bittersweet. Loki's Glorious Purpose has finally has arrived with Loki realizing he can replace the branch-killing Loom, and therefore the Sacred Timeline, with something better: himself. Loki takes He Who Remains place at the End of Time but Loki also becomes the God of Stories according to the MCU wiki and most interpretations. If he is the God of Stories for the MCU then the MCU would be changing the meaning of the God of Stories from the comics but they have changed big things before. I also love how the new natural Loom is in the shape of Yggdrasil. When Loki locks Mobius and Sylvie out and tearfully says goodbye to them, he says the same last words he said to Odin right before falling off the Bifrost Bridge and seemingly dying: “I could have done it, father. For you! For all of us!”. Loki's purpose is a glorious one, but the burden is completely heavy, where he is completely alone, unable to be with his loved ones ever again. Still Loki gets watch over them from countless timelines on a throne at the end of the world. No subjects to rule over, no family, no friends. Just him. His god attire isn't fancy, no gold trimmings, as it emphasizes the "burden" he places on himself. Yggdrasil, also known as the Tree of the World or the World's Tree, is a concept used by the Asgardians to describe the cosmic nebula, with each branch or root representing one of the Nine Realms but this new Yggdrasil is not just for the Nine Realms but for the entire multiverse.
He truly was "burdened with glorious purpose". As to character development, remember that he spent centuries at the TVA- probably even before episode six. Loki made Yggdrassyl- The World Tree. He sacrificed himself to save his friends and everything- but accepted his greatest fear- to be eternally alone (as Sif cursed him to be in episode one of Loki).
Ah, Lokis last line in this episode “for you, for all of us” which he says in the first Thor right before he falls, gets me right in the feels. So good.
Even in the first Thor movie, Loki was never a villain villain. He was someone who was jealous of his brother and just strives for the love of his father. I think it was always destined to be more
Maybe he can cast an illusion of himself through the branches, one that he controls from his throne, so he won't move from his spot but he can interact with other characters@@trobtx3538
“I am burdened by glorious purpose!” - Loki It was both heart warming and sad for him to finally live up to that. In the end, his burden was in fact a glorious purpose.
in the finale of season 1 He who remains specifically told Loki and Sylvie that one of them had to take his place, which makes sense now in this finale why both Loki and Sylvie was there. They both served a function
A great thought from you guys about him creating free will and allowing variants to exist. Last thing, the time stone is green because Loki is the one holding timelines together as well 🤯🤯
Fantastic end to a fantastic season of a fantastic show. Loki has just skyrocketed to my favourite MCU character, and I really hope the writer for this comes back to do more for Marvel because he's masterful.
funny because Michael Waldron has a sub par track record. the same guy who wrote Multiverse of Madness somehow managed to put this series together (clearly with a lot of help) but this show still manages to be something you’d expect from him
@@TheeWandaStan Michael Waldron had nothing to do with this season, he's off working on other stuff. I also believe it was recently revealed the writer/showrunner for this actually rewrote a fair amount of last season to accommodate the issues the pandemic brought.
I think it was Michael Waldron or one of the show runners for Loki that said they saw the two seasons as two parts of a book, and now the story is complete. That being said, if there’s never another episode of Loki, I would be happy, but I would love to see this version reunite with a post-Love and Thunder Thor because they are both so different from where they were in The Avengers!
He holds everything together, but if you go back and listen to Mobius talking about the Kang Variant causing problems on 616, that is Quantumania. So, all those Kang Variants are still able to create the Multiverse War.
@@Kjf365 Right, I get it. I am just pointing out the fact that they mentioned those events. Regardless, the setup for the Kang Dynasty and the Multiversal War is set. There's no way the TVA can contain an infinite number of Kang Variants. Spoiler Alert! Hence, the post credit scene in Quantumania. They will still be a problem.
I think this Loki at this point in time would be worthy of wielding Mjolnir, Thors hammer. Am i wrong for thinking that? I genuinely think he’d be worthy now, vision & cap America are worthy? I think this Loki would be too, such an epic series, Loki is a top 5 character, tied in my mind w Thor, Tony stark, doc strange, Bruce banner & then Loki, tied for 1st place, Tom was born to play Loki, he slaughtered the role in the best way possible. The ending soundtrack song is dope as well. Good reaction, glad you guys enjoyed
I'm not sure many people have thought of that...and I think you are 100 PERCENT CORRECT. He sacrificed himself for the good of the entire multiverse...to me, that more worthy than Cap or even Thor himself!
Both final episodes of Loki are the sole reason we have (and continue to have) a multiverse to begin with. If Sylvie never killed He Who Remains we never would have a multiverse to begin with and if Loki didn't sacrifice himself to hold it al together then there would've been nobody to let us keep it that way. Best MCU anything since Endgame. (imo it's even better, but don't tell the internet that.)
For me, it’s the fact that in the episode prior to this, he told Sylvie he wanted his friends back because he didn’t want to be alone, cut to now where his decision, his sacrifice, means he will be alone for the rest of eternity, maintaining the timelines
Mobius ending is so heartwarming and sad, he just wants to watch his kids play and time pass, knowing he cant go back. Just allowing the pain the joy, everything he was fighting to happen in an hinorable silence.
10 yrs of movies and the entirety of the mcu to save half a universe from the snap.....2 seasons for loki to single handedly save the entire multiverse 🤯🤯🤯
Holden, there is also a newer version of Loki that was revealed earlier this year, Avenger Prime Loki. Essentially, Loki was transported to the God Quarry after attempting to kill himself by flying into the sun, but instead, survived and now maintains the flow of time and space in the multiverse from his Avengers Tower in the God Quarry. Essentially, Avenger Prime Loki is the strongest version of him, and he has also defeated Mephisto and Supreme Doom (and his army of Dr Dooms). He also assembled a multiversal Avengers team. This version of Loki would be ideal for the future of the Multiverse Saga, as this is leading to Kang Dynasty (Council of Kang) and Secret Wars (Dr Doom).
Tbh, I don't think this version of Loki is the god of stories for the sole reason that he isn't exactly changing everyone's stories, he's only there to maintain the multiverse. He can't leave the throne or else all the timelines die, it upsets him because it was the only way to save his friends.
I feel like these two seasons really stand on their own and are definitely the best marvel disney+ show we have seen so far. I feel like the phase 4/multiverse saga would have gotten off on a much better foot if these two season had been produced as a 1 12 episode show and been the first marvel tv show we see after endgame.
I love the line "It's more burden than purpose..." which just highlights Loki's position now..... it's so suprising how much Loki's character has changed from Avengers... now that he's been given truly great purpose he's really taken it on full-on. With the announcement of Secret Wars being made down the line, I can see how this might tie-in with that. I feel like a bad set of circumstances will play out where Loki will lose his grip on the timeli9nes and this feeds into the Multiversal Secret Wars which go on, since Loki is now literally at the centre of it all now. This is just my theory on what might happen in future. But yeh this was such an awesome season and hope we see these writiers back again for future MCU projects.... :)
Remember Loki “pruned” himself from the timeline earlier in the season. I be live that’s how he was able to withstand the temporal aura and become the god of stories whereas Slyvie couldn’t do the same. All of his variants get to live because of him.
Loki n Sylvie are not normal humans....they are Frost Giant adopted by Asgardian magic...like Thor was able to withstand full radiation blast from a dying star in "Infinity War"...they are gods! not normal humans.
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Also like somebody pointed out in a different video from like a week ago, this Loki is A LOT older now. Remember he spent centuries going back to learn everything about the time stuff from OB and maybe a couple more years fighting with Sylvie with the occasional chat with He Who Remains. So this is far from the 2012 Loki, sure he started as one but not anymore.
Loki finally had his Thor 1 moment, humbled. However Tom has confirmed that he has no future plans or contracts to play Loki, there’s a video on TH-cam with him confirming it. Could be a curveball but it wouldn’t surprise me
Loki had the most significant moment/character development in the MCU. That's saying something. We tend to be prisoners of the moment. Whatever is happening is always the biggest or the best, but this feels truly enormous. There's so many layers/callbacks that make this episode bittersweet. I just want to see Thor become aware of this version of Loki. The sun will shine on us again
Loki chronologically takes place before the other multiversal movies. It makes sense, we watched the multiverse be created in Loki and now as a result the Kang variants will come out and will start the multiversal war.
Love, love, loved this finale! Also Holden, you made a face at one point during the episode and I think you recognized something! Right before Loki exist the TVA to destroy the loom, he says to Sylvie and Mobius, "for you, for all of us" that is a straight reference from Thor 1 when Loki says it to Odin right before Loki drops to his "death" also cool thing, that was improvised by Tom Hiddleston...awesome stuff!
The tree is Yggsdrasil - the World Tree - which is part of Asgard and the 9 realms. Ironically in Loki's first appearance in Marvel Comics he was trapped inside a tree as punishment for his misdeeds Not at the end of the story but at the beginning and he's released when a leaf falls from the tree and brushes Heimdall's eye causing him to cry - which is what was required to break the spell. Loki as the god of stories makes a lot of sense. To quote Kratos "This has always been your story."
The loom wasn't powerful enough to hold all of the timelines. Loki destroyed the loom, then became the new loom to stop the time lines growing wildly and keeping the universes apart so they don't cross over. He is finally...burdened with glorious purpose.
There may not be other Loki’s left(Sylvie exception) Season 2 episode 1 he was physically ripped out of all time lines by Mobius, the loom, and OB’s upgrade. 20:02
I love the imagery of Yggdrasil. Who's to say that the story itself didn't originate through Loki to begin with. The TVA existing outside of time and all that played out was meant to happen, already did happen, and he influenced the Asgardian path in history. Steps in place which led Odin to abandoning the Asgardian view of conquering, imprisoning Hela, Thor's future with the Avengers, and just like HWR sets the path that leads him to the TVA and his destiny as the God of Stories beyond time and space. Amazing ending.
I think that it is showing us how Loki is also keeping the multiverse under control too. If memory serves, Yggdrasil keeps the universe put into 9 realms. I think this is a hint at how the MCU is going to handle the and maybe restrict the Multiverse stories in the future.
At the end, when hunter and Mobius were talking about HWR's variants, Mobius says there was only 1, from the 616 universe, but it was taken care of. He's referring to Kang the Conqueror, in Antman & The Wasp.
I just love like the Loki wanted a Throne and always said he was burdened with a Glorious Purpose... And in the end he has got his throne and achieved the purpose. With a great cost to himself but with a great new world to his friends and the whole world. After awhile he was saying he just don't want to be alone (and remember Lady Sif from the first season, words hitting harder than a punch in a face) - and he had to sacrifice that, because of what he have heard from Mobius - it will always be a burden. What a masterpiece. Standing ovation to the writers (and to all the team to show us the story). And obviously thank you Holden for sharing your emotions with us :)
The first and the last episode are voth called Glorious Purpose. And when He Who Remains said "see you soon" it seems like he meant Loki not his variants
At the end, Loki guarantees multiversal war. But he is doing it to give the timelines a chance to save themselves, even if it means a lot of them die. Rather than he who remains' plan to just kill all but one.
it makes perfect sense now, that the time stone is green, because loki is there at the end of time holding all the branches together, forming yggdrasil, the world tree. also this gives marvel the opportunity to reboot the whole mcu and bring dead characters back, like ironman with a new actor or black widow...
He’s just buying us time so we can mount our own defense. We get the free will to die trying, and the chance to succeed. The beauty is that he wanted a throne at first, then he didn’t want to be alone. Now, he has to burden that throne, alone, but he’s doing it for everyone else. What a wonderful character arc!
When he looked at his friends and gave them a sad smile, then walked down the stairs I knew some kind of self sacrifice was about to happen. It made that whole scene hit me like a ton of bricks. I feel bad for those who were confused or didn't understand, it must have made that so much less for them
Plus notice the Time stone is green… he is the holder of time always and forever. Always has been. The end of time is also the beginning of time. Dope….!
Comes full circle "for you, for all of us" same line he gave Odin in the first Thor, and in the same movie Thor explains the tree of yggdrasil that connects all life is now loki responsible for amazing story telling from the God of stories
For me as coming from Scandinavia, growing up with the stories from the Norse mythology .. The tree at the end for me looks just like the yggdrasil sacred tree. Also at the end where Sylvi says "it is weird that Loki is not here".. the screen divides up in two colors, green and gold.
This show proved that marvel is still capable of producing amazing content and writing characters to a different level. Also Loki is the best written character in the entirety of the MCU
Remember in season 1 He Who Remains (HWR) said they crossed over to the first time he was experiencing something when he gave Loki and Sylvie the choice. In this finale, Loki says "why don't you ever fight back" and that lets HWR know that Loki is reliving that moment and he asks "how long have you been at this?". HWR doesn't know how it will end, he only knows that without the sacred timeline his variants will start a war and his motivation is to be free from making all the decisions and the only way for him to do that is for Loki to kill Sylvie and take over for him. He knows he won't die and says "reincarnation baby" because he knows the loom will protect the timeline. Loki wins because he finds an alternate solution which is his sacrifice and the burden he chooses where he can watch over his friends for all time. Now for the fun part, speculation. We know that HWR is Kang. Did Disney+ just set up Kang's rival? Did Disney+ just set up a way to bring back/reunite the original Avengers to team up with the Young Avengers and the X-Men, and the Fantastic 4, and the Thunderbolts that will eventually culminate in an epic Endgame type finale? I am very excited to see where they're going to take it.
The comment I know the god I need to be "for you, for all of us" is a direct one for one when at then end of Thor 1 he says it to Odin wanting respect. Then falls into the void. Now he says it and KNOWS the burden of purpose. It's lonely...not the throne he wanted, but the glorious purpose he was burdened with. Best character arc in the entire MCU
If you didn't pick up on it you can see Loki at the end keeping watch of Mobius when he visited the timeline. You can hear him as it pans onto Loki holding the threads of time.
The key thing I seen with the Loki and Mobius conversation was that Mobius took the approach of a Father with Loki’s problem. He didn’t solve it for him but gave him the life experience to create a choice for himself. He used the time slipping for his own personal reasons until he had to choose his burden given everything going on.
Loki became what he was meant to be, not a King, but a God. comic book Loki and Loki from Mythology become one. Keeper of the World Tree. That's why you see the World Tree.
Fun fact: when Thor and Loki fought at the gates of Asgard, you can also see a glimpse of the world Tree after Loki freezes the byfrost, creating the resemblance of the World Tree after Loki defeated Heimdall, which is originally a mythology story. although both Heimdall and Loki died in the fight.
I did like how, in both seasons, it was more of a sci-fi problem. But it harkens back to the first Thor movie where Thor explains to Jane that where he's from science and magic are one in the same, and draws a picture of Ydrassil, the tree that Loki builds.
Imagine in 20yrs we get a new marvel movie that Tom Hiddleston makes a cameo's in. Would be like the Doctor Who previous Doctors when they make cameos.
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Did you guys decide not to do Secret Invasion? I mean, I get it. Just curious.
OML ATTACK ON TITAN???
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really hope Gen V wins!
Oh boi, are you gonna watch Attack on Titan with subtitles? The japanese Voice Actors are doing an amazing job.
I love how Loki finally got the throne he always wanted, but at a point in his character development that he really didn’t want it. Such a beautiful way to do this ending.
He got the throne when it finally had meaning behind it not just because
He didn’t want the throne
@@austinhassler7283did you read his entire post?
He got the throne and ended up completely alone, so pretty tragic for him.
I did. Did you?
Loki isn’t preventing the multiversal war, he’s just giving the multiverse a chance to thrive while the TVA monitors and prunes dangerous Kang Variants. I’m guessing it’ll be the TVA that brings together the New Avenger or any other Avengers teams to fight the Council of Kangs. There’s no season 3, this is the end of Lokis story, but still leaves it open for him to return.
Yep this is it.
He can technically return whenever he wants by creating a duplicate of himself to hold the branches or one to time travel and interact with people.
was hoping he would meet thor one last time.
@@user-dz6fy6qv2lthat’s what I was thinking when I thought how else can he come back if others needed him
It’ll most likely be Loki who recruits the Avengers since they first teamed up to stop him. I’m hoping it’s the OG cast since Loki can pull individuals from different timelines. Maybe he recruits Thor first and Thor tells him what happened after Endgame.
Also, they are preventing war by pruning Kang variants that are dangerous to the timeline.
Now, did Loki erase the TVA’s memories? At least the main 6 in that Loom Room? They didn’t necessarily say.
Maybe we’ll see Kang recruit his own Avengers to fight against Loki in Secret Wars, unless that rumor about Kang being out and Doom being in is true.
The only person who knows what’s happening next is the God of Stories, Kevin Feige.
This show proved that a good team of talented movie makers can take a Marvel Product and create scenes where two characters are just sitting at a table talking and entertain the viewer. Well done to the entire team.
Exactly. Maybe they'll finally learn, although I doubt it.
not entertain.. make emotional
@@WitchMaster-vi4kp same thing. Making us emotional WAS entertaining.
Agreed. The framing of their faces centered like that. It's perfect
I love that foreshadowing when Loki timeslipped for last time and greeted with "Welcome, He Who Remains"
Ohhh I didn’t even catch that
And in the first episode Mobius said to Loki who was time-slipping "I need a Loki who remains"
Never thought I'd see Loki have the greatest character development in the MCU. He finally fullfilled his GLORIOUS PURPOSE!
I still think Cap & Tony have had the best character development by far, but Loki is up there for sure
His glorious purpose being a throne he didn't want, sacrificing himself to keep his friends safe. For All Time. Always.
And he chose to be alone when the one thing he didn't want was to be alone.
@@py16667I love Cap but he doesn’t have any character development because he was already perfect
@@carwynwilliams7398 sorry, but you sound dumb af saying Cap had no character development lol go rewatch his trilogy
Destined to lose, on a throne he didnt want, alone as he didnt want, but to save his friends and let them live on. Cheers to the hero loki! Odin would be proud.
Sadly , odin can't ever be proud
@@ankurvinodiya5628true, at least his mother would be proud and Thor too
Loki gets the throne he ultimately realizes he never wanted. That's some amazing story telling and character development. Hiddleston may have also just given the best performance in the history of the MCU in this episode.
To me, the peak of acting was achieved by Chris Hemsworth as Thor in Avengers Endgame. From depicting the trauma of failing to prevent a genocide to the encounter with his mom and the massive relief when he realized he was still worthy, the range was massive and he pulled it off perfectly.
@commentor93 excellent choice also. Love Hemsworth in that movie. There's just something about Hiddleston's face in that last shot that stays with me. Melancholy at the thought of being trapped at the end of time forever but with a little bit of happiness and gratitude for his friends helping him realize who he really was.
He begins to value other things and people, only to have to take a throne he doesnt want to make sure everything he loves survives and thrives, but alone.
I love how they brought everything around, such a well thought out story arc. One touch I truly loved was the use of the same episode title for both the first and final episode, "Glorious Purpose".
I also loved the "For you, for all of us" is also what he said at the end of the first Thor movie before falling into space, but now has a new, deeper meaning
Avengers he said glorious purpose
@@mitsukitai2713 someone on Reddit also,pointed out that the first time he said it in Thor, he let go and fell into the abyss. This time, he stepped over the edge yet again, but instead of falling, he created his own path. I think there are so many references to his past. It’s a beautiful ending, even if I would hate never seeing him again.
He didn't want a throne and he didn't want to be alone, but he winds up with both. Astonishing character development and visuals throughout this entire series. I hope this writing team gets to work on more MCU shows/movies. Absolutely wonderful job!!!
"The last thing I want is a throne!"
"I don't want to be alone anymore."
Poor Loki.
Branches of timeline turn into Yggdrasill..
*Mindblown*
One of the BEST finale episodes I've ever seen. And to this day by far the best Marvel cinematography.
Thank you Tom Hiddleston
He replaced the loom with something better. Instead of a loom with a singular purpose, Loki became an intelligent loom. He learned physics for a few centuries, learn great power comes great responsibility, love for one’s self(and alternative self), protect those you care for.
I watched your Ep 4-5 react immediately after watching the finale. The scene in the bar where Sylvie pushes him to admit "I want my friends back. I don't want to be alone" hits SOOO much harder after seeing the character's conclusion.
It’s so heartbreaking that he had finally found where he belonged, finally become a better version of himself, only to have to give it up again. From the first season on, we are constantly told that he’s scared to be alone, and for that to be his fate for the rest of time is so sad. Still, an amazing conclusion for his arc.
The way the branches turn into the world tree is a great touch. Ties up the TVA and Norse lore together.
When Mobius said “Let time pass”, I feel that was sort of his way of feeling close to Loki. Just a theory though. I’m glad Loki got his arc. Hiddleston IS Loki, after 14 years he’s done playing Loki but i’m grateful he gave us one of the best characters in the MCU. Couldn’t imagine anyone else playing Loki
I don’t think we’ll see loki for a while, but Tom Hiddleston did say it would be unwise to believe he’s gone for good
Before Mobius told Sylvie "let time pass"...when they were talking ....there's a shot of Mobius standing in a sun flare color of green/yellow/gold...Loki's color.
I believe HWR when he said that he was tired. He was banking on Loki taking the throne and continuing the old ways. He was so sure there is only 2 options, but Loki found a 3rd one, thus breaking the loop and ensuring the survival and freedom of the multiverse.
i think hwr is kang from antman. hwr meets himself in the past and sets himself on the path to become hwr(dying in antman). explains him talking about reincarnation and his control of time. we also saw kang in his antman costume at the tva in season 1.
He doesn't protect against other Kangs. That was part of the sacrifice and advice he took from Sylvie. People have the right to fight and possibly die trying.
Loki turning the timelines into the Tree "Yggdrasil" proves he is a God worthy of the name "Odinson".
I love this ending even though it's so bittersweet. Loki's Glorious Purpose has finally has arrived with Loki realizing he can replace the branch-killing Loom, and therefore the Sacred Timeline, with something better: himself. Loki takes He Who Remains place at the End of Time but Loki also becomes the God of Stories according to the MCU wiki and most interpretations. If he is the God of Stories for the MCU then the MCU would be changing the meaning of the God of Stories from the comics but they have changed big things before.
I also love how the new natural Loom is in the shape of Yggdrasil. When Loki locks Mobius and Sylvie out and tearfully says goodbye to them, he says the same last words he said to Odin right before falling off the Bifrost Bridge and seemingly dying: “I could have done it, father. For you! For all of us!”.
Loki's purpose is a glorious one, but the burden is completely heavy, where he is completely alone, unable to be with his loved ones ever again. Still Loki gets watch over them from countless timelines on a throne at the end of the world. No subjects to rule over, no family, no friends. Just him. His god attire isn't fancy, no gold trimmings, as it emphasizes the "burden" he places on himself.
Yggdrasil, also known as the Tree of the World or the World's Tree, is a concept used by the Asgardians to describe the cosmic nebula, with each branch or root representing one of the Nine Realms but this new Yggdrasil is not just for the Nine Realms but for the entire multiverse.
He truly was "burdened with glorious purpose".
As to character development, remember that he spent centuries at the TVA- probably even before episode six.
Loki made Yggdrassyl- The World Tree. He sacrificed himself to save his friends and everything- but accepted his greatest fear- to be eternally alone (as Sif cursed him to be in episode one of Loki).
From never sitting on the throne he always wanted to sitting on the throne he never wanted.
Greatest character development in the entire MCU.
Ah, Lokis last line in this episode “for you, for all of us” which he says in the first Thor right before he falls, gets me right in the feels. So good.
I loved his last line to his friends cause it's taken right from the end of the first Thor "For you, For All of Us"
Even in the first Thor movie, Loki was never a villain villain. He was someone who was jealous of his brother and just strives for the love of his father. I think it was always destined to be more
There is no Season 3, the show was set to run for 2 seasons and this definitely feels like a series finale.
Such an amazing season and an end to Loki's character journey
It’s not the end
@@austinhassler7283for the show yes. For Loki’s character no he will definitely be back
this loki tho? cuz the timeline loki is dead sooo? how the fk would they have him in any movie he is outside time @@Arbythor
Maybe he can cast an illusion of himself through the branches, one that he controls from his throne, so he won't move from his spot but he can interact with other characters@@trobtx3538
“I am burdened by glorious purpose!” - Loki
It was both heart warming and sad for him to finally live up to that. In the end, his burden was in fact a glorious purpose.
in the finale of season 1 He who remains specifically told Loki and Sylvie that one of them had to take his place, which makes sense now in this finale why both Loki and Sylvie was there. They both served a function
A great thought from you guys about him creating free will and allowing variants to exist. Last thing, the time stone is green because Loki is the one holding timelines together as well 🤯🤯
i love the similarity's this story has to the infinity stones as he goes through all of them to get to his sad ending
The saddest part of the finale was that Loki didn't want to be alone or lose his friends but now he is alone til the end of time. Poor Loki 😞
Loki: God of Time, upon his throne in the heart of Yggdrasil, carrying a glorious burden.
Fantastic end to a fantastic season of a fantastic show. Loki has just skyrocketed to my favourite MCU character, and I really hope the writer for this comes back to do more for Marvel because he's masterful.
funny because Michael Waldron has a sub par track record. the same guy who wrote Multiverse of Madness somehow managed to put this series together (clearly with a lot of help) but this show still manages to be something you’d expect from him
@@TheeWandaStan Michael Waldron had nothing to do with this season, he's off working on other stuff. I also believe it was recently revealed the writer/showrunner for this actually rewrote a fair amount of last season to accommodate the issues the pandemic brought.
He became that tree that Thor spoke about. He's outside time and space. He became Worthy.
I love that they ended the Loki character with a redemption arc and such a significant role in the multiverse, guarding free will.
I think it was Michael Waldron or one of the show runners for Loki that said they saw the two seasons as two parts of a book, and now the story is complete. That being said, if there’s never another episode of Loki, I would be happy, but I would love to see this version reunite with a post-Love and Thunder Thor because they are both so different from where they were in The Avengers!
16:30 From this point on, the episode takes place AFTER "Any-Man & The Wasp: Quantumania"
He holds everything together, but if you go back and listen to Mobius talking about the Kang Variant causing problems on 616, that is Quantumania. So, all those Kang Variants are still able to create the Multiverse War.
Well, that's what the TVA is for now. It watches for Kang variants that cause problems for other universes and shuts them down before they start.
@@Kjf365 Right, I get it. I am just pointing out the fact that they mentioned those events. Regardless, the setup for the Kang Dynasty and the Multiversal War is set. There's no way the TVA can contain an infinite number of Kang Variants. Spoiler Alert! Hence, the post credit scene in Quantumania. They will still be a problem.
I think this Loki at this point in time would be worthy of wielding Mjolnir, Thors hammer. Am i wrong for thinking that? I genuinely think he’d be worthy now, vision & cap America are worthy? I think this Loki would be too, such an epic series, Loki is a top 5 character, tied in my mind w Thor, Tony stark, doc strange, Bruce banner & then Loki, tied for 1st place, Tom was born to play Loki, he slaughtered the role in the best way possible. The ending soundtrack song is dope as well. Good reaction, glad you guys enjoyed
I'm not sure many people have thought of that...and I think you are 100 PERCENT CORRECT. He sacrificed himself for the good of the entire multiverse...to me, that more worthy than Cap or even Thor himself!
Both final episodes of Loki are the sole reason we have (and continue to have) a multiverse to begin with. If Sylvie never killed He Who Remains we never would have a multiverse to begin with and if Loki didn't sacrifice himself to hold it al together then there would've been nobody to let us keep it that way.
Best MCU anything since Endgame. (imo it's even better, but don't tell the internet that.)
Best show
Season 2 of Loki has been confirmed to be the first time that Marvel has ever made a project with zero reshoots
For me, it’s the fact that in the episode prior to this, he told Sylvie he wanted his friends back because he didn’t want to be alone, cut to now where his decision, his sacrifice, means he will be alone for the rest of eternity, maintaining the timelines
I love how they made loki yggdrasil basically. "Pruning branches" that phrase really ties it in for me.
Mobius ending is so heartwarming and sad, he just wants to watch his kids play and time pass, knowing he cant go back. Just allowing the pain the joy, everything he was fighting to happen in an hinorable silence.
10 yrs of movies and the entirety of the mcu to save half a universe from the snap.....2 seasons for loki to single handedly save the entire multiverse 🤯🤯🤯
Holden, there is also a newer version of Loki that was revealed earlier this year, Avenger Prime Loki. Essentially, Loki was transported to the God Quarry after attempting to kill himself by flying into the sun, but instead, survived and now maintains the flow of time and space in the multiverse from his Avengers Tower in the God Quarry. Essentially, Avenger Prime Loki is the strongest version of him, and he has also defeated Mephisto and Supreme Doom (and his army of Dr Dooms). He also assembled a multiversal Avengers team. This version of Loki would be ideal for the future of the Multiverse Saga, as this is leading to Kang Dynasty (Council of Kang) and Secret Wars (Dr Doom).
Tbh, I don't think this version of Loki is the god of stories for the sole reason that he isn't exactly changing everyone's stories, he's only there to maintain the multiverse. He can't leave the throne or else all the timelines die, it upsets him because it was the only way to save his friends.
I feel like these two seasons really stand on their own and are definitely the best marvel disney+ show we have seen so far. I feel like the phase 4/multiverse saga would have gotten off on a much better foot if these two season had been produced as a 1 12 episode show and been the first marvel tv show we see after endgame.
I love the line "It's more burden than purpose..." which just highlights Loki's position now..... it's so suprising how much Loki's character has changed from Avengers... now that he's been given truly great purpose he's really taken it on full-on.
With the announcement of Secret Wars being made down the line, I can see how this might tie-in with that. I feel like a bad set of circumstances will play out where Loki will lose his grip on the timeli9nes and this feeds into the Multiversal Secret Wars which go on, since Loki is now literally at the centre of it all now.
This is just my theory on what might happen in future.
But yeh this was such an awesome season and hope we see these writiers back again for future MCU projects.... :)
Remember Loki “pruned” himself from the timeline earlier in the season. I be live that’s how he was able to withstand the temporal aura and become the god of stories whereas Slyvie couldn’t do the same. All of his variants get to live because of him.
Loki n Sylvie are not normal humans....they are Frost Giant adopted by Asgardian magic...like Thor was able to withstand full radiation blast from a dying star in "Infinity War"...they are gods! not normal humans.
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Also like somebody pointed out in a different video from like a week ago, this Loki is A LOT older now. Remember he spent centuries going back to learn everything about the time stuff from OB and maybe a couple more years fighting with Sylvie with the occasional chat with He Who Remains. So this is far from the 2012 Loki, sure he started as one but not anymore.
Loki finally had his Thor 1 moment, humbled. However Tom has confirmed that he has no future plans or contracts to play Loki, there’s a video on TH-cam with him confirming it. Could be a curveball but it wouldn’t surprise me
Loki had the most significant moment/character development in the MCU. That's saying something. We tend to be prisoners of the moment. Whatever is happening is always the biggest or the best, but this feels truly enormous. There's so many layers/callbacks that make this episode bittersweet. I just want to see Thor become aware of this version of Loki. The sun will shine on us again
Loki chronologically takes place before the other multiversal movies. It makes sense, we watched the multiverse be created in Loki and now as a result the Kang variants will come out and will start the multiversal war.
Love, love, loved this finale!
Also Holden, you made a face at one point during the episode and I think you recognized something! Right before Loki exist the TVA to destroy the loom, he says to Sylvie and Mobius, "for you, for all of us" that is a straight reference from Thor 1 when Loki says it to Odin right before Loki drops to his "death" also cool thing, that was improvised by Tom Hiddleston...awesome stuff!
The tree is Yggsdrasil - the World Tree - which is part of Asgard and the 9 realms.
Ironically in Loki's first appearance in Marvel Comics he was trapped inside a tree as punishment for his misdeeds Not at the end of the story but at the beginning and he's released when a leaf falls from the tree and brushes Heimdall's eye causing him to cry - which is what was required to break the spell.
Loki as the god of stories makes a lot of sense. To quote Kratos "This has always been your story."
The loom wasn't powerful enough to hold all of the timelines. Loki destroyed the loom, then became the new loom to stop the time lines growing wildly and keeping the universes apart so they don't cross over. He is finally...burdened with glorious purpose.
There may not be other Loki’s left(Sylvie exception)
Season 2 episode 1 he was physically ripped out of all time lines by Mobius, the loom, and OB’s upgrade. 20:02
I love the imagery of Yggdrasil. Who's to say that the story itself didn't originate through Loki to begin with. The TVA existing outside of time and all that played out was meant to happen, already did happen, and he influenced the Asgardian path in history. Steps in place which led Odin to abandoning the Asgardian view of conquering, imprisoning Hela, Thor's future with the Avengers, and just like HWR sets the path that leads him to the TVA and his destiny as the God of Stories beyond time and space.
Amazing ending.
I think that it is showing us how Loki is also keeping the multiverse under control too. If memory serves, Yggdrasil keeps the universe put into 9 realms. I think this is a hint at how the MCU is going to handle the and maybe restrict the Multiverse stories in the future.
Its also been confirmed that S1 and S2 and 2 parts of the same "book" so to say since S2 basically starts right where S1 ends
At the end, when hunter and Mobius were talking about HWR's variants, Mobius says there was only 1, from the 616 universe, but it was taken care of. He's referring to Kang the Conqueror, in Antman & The Wasp.
I just love like the Loki wanted a Throne and always said he was burdened with a Glorious Purpose... And in the end he has got his throne and achieved the purpose. With a great cost to himself but with a great new world to his friends and the whole world. After awhile he was saying he just don't want to be alone (and remember Lady Sif from the first season, words hitting harder than a punch in a face) - and he had to sacrifice that, because of what he have heard from Mobius - it will always be a burden.
What a masterpiece. Standing ovation to the writers (and to all the team to show us the story).
And obviously thank you Holden for sharing your emotions with us :)
The first and the last episode are voth called Glorious Purpose. And when He Who Remains said "see you soon" it seems like he meant Loki not his variants
The saddest part of this is that Loki did not want to be alone, and that's exactly what ended up happening.
At the end, Loki guarantees multiversal war. But he is doing it to give the timelines a chance to save themselves, even if it means a lot of them die.
Rather than he who remains' plan to just kill all but one.
it makes perfect sense now, that the time stone is green, because loki is there at the end of time holding all the branches together, forming yggdrasil, the world tree.
also this gives marvel the opportunity to reboot the whole mcu and bring dead characters back, like ironman with a new actor or black widow...
My favorite theory is the time stone is green because loki is holding all time together... and always has been
I love how the consequences of Endgame (the end of the Infinity saga) lead directly into the next Saga with Loki and HWR and the eventual Kang Dynasty
He’s just buying us time so we can mount our own defense. We get the free will to die trying, and the chance to succeed. The beauty is that he wanted a throne at first, then he didn’t want to be alone. Now, he has to burden that throne, alone, but he’s doing it for everyone else. What a wonderful character arc!
tony saved the universe, loki saved the multiverse
When he looked at his friends and gave them a sad smile, then walked down the stairs I knew some kind of self sacrifice was about to happen.
It made that whole scene hit me like a ton of bricks.
I feel bad for those who were confused or didn't understand,
it must have made that so much less for them
Loki is now filled with real glorious purpose. Before he was full of glorious Loki.
Loki is the god making sure all timelines live.
Plus notice the Time stone is green… he is the holder of time always and forever. Always has been. The end of time is also the beginning of time. Dope….!
Finally Marvel gave one of the Norse gods they stole power equal to what they originally have!
Comes full circle "for you, for all of us" same line he gave Odin in the first Thor, and in the same movie Thor explains the tree of yggdrasil that connects all life is now loki responsible for amazing story telling from the God of stories
For me as coming from Scandinavia, growing up with the stories from the Norse mythology .. The tree at the end for me looks just like the yggdrasil sacred tree.
Also at the end where Sylvi says "it is weird that Loki is not here".. the screen divides up in two colors, green and gold.
This show proved that marvel is still capable of producing amazing content and writing characters to a different level. Also Loki is the best written character in the entirety of the MCU
He either become the God of Stories or the Avenger Prime. We'll see in the Avengers Secret Wars.
Remember in season 1 He Who Remains (HWR) said they crossed over to the first time he was experiencing something when he gave Loki and Sylvie the choice. In this finale, Loki says "why don't you ever fight back" and that lets HWR know that Loki is reliving that moment and he asks "how long have you been at this?". HWR doesn't know how it will end, he only knows that without the sacred timeline his variants will start a war and his motivation is to be free from making all the decisions and the only way for him to do that is for Loki to kill Sylvie and take over for him. He knows he won't die and says "reincarnation baby" because he knows the loom will protect the timeline. Loki wins because he finds an alternate solution which is his sacrifice and the burden he chooses where he can watch over his friends for all time. Now for the fun part, speculation. We know that HWR is Kang. Did Disney+ just set up Kang's rival? Did Disney+ just set up a way to bring back/reunite the original Avengers to team up with the Young Avengers and the X-Men, and the Fantastic 4, and the Thunderbolts that will eventually culminate in an epic Endgame type finale? I am very excited to see where they're going to take it.
The tree references Yggdrasil in Norse mythology, The world tree connecting alll the nine realms
The comment I know the god I need to be "for you, for all of us" is a direct one for one when at then end of Thor 1 he says it to Odin wanting respect. Then falls into the void. Now he says it and KNOWS the burden of purpose. It's lonely...not the throne he wanted, but the glorious purpose he was burdened with. Best character arc in the entire MCU
This episode was right up there with the Mandalorian S2 finale!
Loki got the ultimate throne. Controlling all of reality
If you didn't pick up on it you can see Loki at the end keeping watch of Mobius when he visited the timeline. You can hear him as it pans onto Loki holding the threads of time.
Loki went from a villain, to an anti-hero to a hero. The best written character in the mcu.
The key thing I seen with the Loki and Mobius conversation was that Mobius took the approach of a Father with Loki’s problem. He didn’t solve it for him but gave him the life experience to create a choice for himself. He used the time slipping for his own personal reasons until he had to choose his burden given everything going on.
Theoretically Loki is now the most powerful being in the entire MCU
This explains why the Time Stone is GREEN.
Loki is now the new He Who Remains basically
Loki became what he was meant to be, not a King, but a God. comic book Loki and Loki from Mythology become one. Keeper of the World Tree. That's why you see the World Tree.
Fun fact: when Thor and Loki fought at the gates of Asgard, you can also see a glimpse of the world Tree after Loki freezes the byfrost, creating the resemblance of the World Tree after Loki defeated Heimdall, which is originally a mythology story. although both Heimdall and Loki died in the fight.
LOVED
THE
ENDING!
I did like how, in both seasons, it was more of a sci-fi problem. But it harkens back to the first Thor movie where Thor explains to Jane that where he's from science and magic are one in the same, and draws a picture of Ydrassil, the tree that Loki builds.
It's not just a tree! That is the mcu's version of Yggdrasil, the World Tree that connects the Nine (well now infinite) worlds of the cosmos
I've never clicks youtube video this fast before 😂
Imagine in 20yrs we get a new marvel movie that Tom Hiddleston makes a cameo's in. Would be like the Doctor Who previous Doctors when they make cameos.
Loki is like Atlas, who was cursed to hold up the earth for eternity
Not just Earth. But the entire multiverse!
Loki's character development is so great man