How Just Cause Was Ruined! And How To Fix It!
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There once was a series called Just Cause. A series that had a bit of a rough start, and through sheer determination was able to strike out it's own identity of anarchic chaos and unrelenting fun. But just as soon as it reached it's peak, it had a sudden decline in quality. Today, we look back on what ruined Just Cause. - เกม
I should mention that I haven't bought any of the DLC for Just Cause 4, so if any ideas that I have contradict anything from the dlc, I apologize.
not much. they added another wingsuit similar to the bavarium wingsuit and a hoverboard but neither of them add much in way of much fun. just another toy to mess around with for a few hours. the wingsuit in 4 was nerfed majorly compared to the one in 3. i had to use cheats to have as much fun as i used to.
there was a jet pack for the wingsuit for both 3 and 4 exactly how you described, it's just tha 3s was locked behine an expansion and 4s was locked as a pre-order bonus
I don't know about 4, but there is DLC for 3 that gives you a jet booster, as well as a machine gun and rocket launcher. You have to put in a bit of work for it though.
@@Some_Really_Random_Dude. yeah, there's one for four as well, but they nerfed it a lot compared to the one in three, but they do have a hoverboard in one of the other DLCs, it's a little fun and pretty useful to get out of sticky situations especially on water
I thought the hover board was great
Just Cause had so much potential as an open world action game, if only they kept the JC3 formula and improved on it instead of trying something new and downgrading it basically
They should also indeed the physics of JC2 TO IMOROVE IT
Part of the issue I feel is that they've already hit the peak of JC3's formula. It's like TBP said, diminishing returns. How do you improve the formula when you've already done everything? That's why many of JC4's new features felt like gimmicks.
Honestly, I would argue the best course for the JC franchise is to lay dormant for a while. Wait until we're well into the 9th gen before starting work on a new game. At least that way, the new tech means more possibilities for the sandbox at least.
@@FraserSouris you brainstorm the fuck out of it, take in fan suggestions.
@@FraserSouris I think 4 is a side grade in some areas.
Stuff like the underbarrel grenade launcher, ricochet shotgun ammo, and a rifle that can deploy drones is cool
The hover board in 4 helps fight one of Rico’s biggest movement flaws.
Poor water mobility.
Sure the wing suit in 3’s air assault did help combat this with the hold triangle to not drown/ take off
I’d like to see 3’s bavarium wing suit return, with the air strike of 4’s (I kinda like it as it makes for cool escapes)
The improved ability to switch seats while driving is welcome.
And the ability to have the ai hop in helicopters with you is also welcome.
However the removal of grenades, the 3 weapon system, and the classic Blow up everything red is kinda sad. Along with Rico dropping weapons that have no ammo (both main ammo and special)
Along with nerfs to the drone rifle (imagine having a small army of drones follow you while you have the yellow
Stone sniper drone following)
The call in system of 4 does kinda feel better than 3 (no more looking for beacons) sure you can’t call in a full new arsenal of 3 weapons and a vehicle. But having the ability to build a army of drones in a matter of 3 minutes is awesome.
@ZogBot innovation is important but that doesn't mean you have to remove all the good things about the previous game like the unique bases JC3 had which made exploration and replay value fun
I like how the developers explained why just cause 1 last mission is so hard. "We did not know what we were doing".
Virgin "It's a challenge if you can't do it that's on you" vs Giga Chad "We did not know what we were doing"
@@Attaxalotl to not know what u are doing isnt really giga chad as that is often leading to people getting hurt or worse , and its the last thing u want to hear from your pilot.
so please cut this crap ffs...
@@thelvadam2884 Sir this is a wendy's
@@thelvadam2884 it's from a game though.
@@thelvadam2884 This is about the final boss of Just Cause 1 being obscenely difficult. Other game studios would say that "it's supposed to be a challenge!" and blame the player's lack of skill when they knew they messed up. Avalanche just straight up said they balanced the boss wrong.
Just Cause 3 was a great game. The only problem for me was the lack of large cities like you had from JC2 and JC1. Fighting in a large urban setting was like my favorite parts of those games.
Yeah, missed those too. And I never really got on with the weird octagonal-platformed bases of JC3. They just seemed lazy.
I also hated how half the map was uninhabited, it felt incomplete
i do agree, i liked City Di Revello despite me not really staying in it
The cities were larger in JC2 sure but they were mostly empty with nothing to do other than fight NPCs, not something I was say is better.
@@known3617yeah great so they removed them and put barely any npcs and made the military bases all feel the same whata upgrade :)
Something else that made JC2 so much fun was the public radio announcements made by El Presidente after each time you destroyed any facilities…. They had me laughing all the time - as he kept “explaining” the destruction/explosions due to ANYTHING but the players actions
The propaganda that you hear in jc3 after destroying a base was hilarious
@@Miltypooh2001same here. I kept cracking up every time bro spoke. 😂
his voice is just gold when he says "vive medici" really quickly@@Miltypooh2001
@@Miltypooh2001especially since it was David Tennant
@@callumleslie1680 "Vive-NO, NO! VIVE ME! VIVE! ME!"
(Cheery ass trumpet anthem ensues)
JC4 was a huge letdown for me. I will say I much prefer the slightly darker tone and weather systems. But literally they stripped the one thing that made JC2/3 so good.
at least the ost was good
If the weather systems were fully utilised, it could've offset the shortcomings. But the tornado is limited to 2 paths that barely pass by destructables, the sandstorm only really comes into play during missions and the lightning storm is only active in a tiny radius around its launch station. I do like that post launch they added a bunch of stuff back in like the destroyable trains and train bridges.
I also got no end of joy attaching boosters to the back of a bus, balloons to the top and using it as a flying car to drive around the map. Took out a blimp by ramming it. Funny as heck.
@Rocky Montana Garcia mayne that and the Eden spark
I was just thinking if which game to buy JC3 OR JC4. I played Jc2 and enjoyed it many years ago. Can you explain what you mean by the 4th game taking out the best parts?
What was removed
Just Cause 2 was my favorite map out of all of them. If it had the wing suit in 2 it would probably make it the best Just Cause. So many Easter eggs in that game too
Play with the wingsuit mod
@@farawaygaming_ nah, try the superman mod
It is the best just cause game
using grapple while parachuting was speedy enough to get a quick ride without vehicle, but yes wingsuit is very cool
@@mvltnf There is the 5 miles grapling hook mod. :)
Personally, JC2 was my favourite of them all. I’ve spent an unhealthy amount of hours on the PS3 just playing this. The map, the sandbox, the one liners, serious/not serious humour, vehicles control and map control was all there.
I liked seeing a big base, blowing it up and completing it 100% to then move on to the next. The vehicles were drivable (unlike motorcycles in JC3-4).
Each region of the map had its variety in vehicles, base type and unique architecture.
There were cool stuff around the map, like the flying club house, the WW2 island that blows your vehicle up.
Yes JC3 was superior in a lot of ways, mainly the sandbox and player controls. But as for the rest, I still personally preferred 2.
me too dude, its my favourite game from my childhood.
agreed, for me its how the dlc is very small and is only there if you really want it. I got the dlc's because the game was so fun and I wanted to mess with the air gun. Unlike just cause 3 were there is so many dlc's which added new places to explore. I wish they could have done it like JC2 were the devs did not like the idea of adding new places through dlc. Everything was there from the start but you can buy the dlc to get a few cool trinkets.
Killing the generals and everything, all of them with those written stories hahah It was amazing
JC2 is one of my favorite games of all times, still to this day. Although, I play it on PC for the mods, including the ability to actually get 100% completion in the game, something you can't do without the mod that adds in the 6 missing resource items as well as the bugged water tower. I tried getting into JC3 and got bored, because the targeting reticle felt like some weird, buggy paperclip lol and the challenges were so insanely cheap! In every one of them, trying to score enough damage to get the highest medal was so insanely cheap and tedious, I found myself going to TH-cam to see what weird exploit I had to do to get the highest medal; was it gold or platinum? I forget.
To this day Just Cause 2 feels like the single most "solid" game in the franchise. There is something about that game that even with the 2010 graphics, still feels amazing for just doing all the race challenges, taking over all the settlements, the strongholds, and even the faction and main missions. The weapons all feel more "grounded" to me, and I always found in JC3 when trying to play it, it always felt too chaotic and unfocused, even when causing chaos. With JC3, I tried just taking over all the settlements, but they all felt like literally the same thing over and over again.
JC4 I only tried out for a few minutes before just getting bored and abandoning it on the PS5.
I loved JC2 so much man. I loved all the Easter eggs, the hot air balloon, the banana fail writing, the washed up whale, the hatch from LOST on ww2 island, the mile high club, the little wooden shark fin with an engine on it, you name it. There was just so much shit to explore and mess around with. I played that so much lol 😂 I even uploaded videos. It was pretty groundbreaking at the time that you could record gameplay and upload it from PS3: th-cam.com/users/lennartjuhh looking back at these videos makes me smile, cause I remember the joy I had as a kid. It’s like a memory archive for me
Just Cause 2 aged pretty well I have to say. It's one of my favourite games of all time and I keep getting back to it every once in a while. A faithful remaster would be soooo nice!
The running felt so bad and forced. It's like playing an old PS2 games.
@@user-ti6ix5tn2o Why run when you can use the grappling hook :D
the game is so fun and cute (if you ignore how racist the voice acting is) ive replayed this like 5 times and am replaying it rn its addictive
@@Anunnamedtank Racist voice acting? Sounds like different languages sound different in different languages. As an austrian i have something like an arnold dialect. Is that racist?
@@xXDrocenXx no, having an accent/dialect isn't racist
Just Cause 3 was incredible, I really loved the full on war missions in that game where you went place to place fighting different enemy encounters, it would be cool if they brought back Frontlines from JC4 into JC5 but made them engulf towns, oceans, and the nearby landscape so there is urban fighting, open field fighting, air battles, and naval battles all on one frontline. Couple that with some new quality of life things like Rebels following Rico on the frontline or Rebels getting called in to support Rico if he's in high Heat would be awesome.
Only thing is the music kinda sucked
Budget Italian doom e1m1 just doesn't work for it
@@tankhead2645 I really loved the music in JC3 it was very calm and nice 👌
@@Ali76341 yeah most of the time, but for the war missions it was underwhelming
Oh yeah, it'd be awesome if you could have both the classic liberation and frontline gameplay
@@tankhead2645 Hard disagree, JC3 had great music.
One odd aspect I found for all 4 games is they center around Rico but change both his face and voice actor in every one. I know it's not a big deal vs the actual gameplay but I get less thrilled to reconnect with the supposive same character. Kinda like Dead Rising 4 was marketed as the return of Frank West but they changed his voice actor, face and writing.
yeah it's odd, like it's him but it just doesn't sit right
both faces are alright i guess
Yeah I agree with this
He didnt cover wars, youknow 😔
i think the reason to this is he is getting older as the games progress, i mean i know quite a bit of people were surprised and shocked when he suddenly had a beard in JC3, as for Deadrising i think it was meant to be a reboot of the series since alot of stuff was different such as the story having no time limit
@@kktyr4580 I'm not oppose to him getting older, it just the new voice actor for every game and his demeanor always felt so different than the last game that it was hard to connect to him being the same Rico.
The problem with the frontline system was that it always felt restrictive compared to JC3. A really easy solution would be to just keep outpost destruction from JC3 but make it so that outposts close to the frontline would provide you with rebel supoort when taking them over. That way you're incentivised to take outposts on the frontline but it's not impossible to go take some random outpost if you feel like it.
Or even make the frontlines on a settlement to settlement basis instead of a whole region basis and i do kinda like how your unabke to advanced into some regions but the biggest issue with that is that it feels way too linear on a province to province basis
Honestly the next step for JC surely has to be a co-op experience - one thing I found most frustrating about JC4 was that in order to utilise the mechanics properly I always felt like I needed someone else with me to help. Especially after 3 whole games of doing stuff solo... I personally was running out of ideas of how to have fun in the sandbox - I've tried every combination of tying vehicles and enemies together, i've tried jumping from every vehicle to another... having another player there to help co-ordinate stunts etc would open up SO MANY more opportunities.
i agree, i always thought a coop Just Cause game could be interesting, the problem arises though in HOW they would do it as the general thought feels weird with the entire series initially being single player plus they would need a lore reason because i know noone is going to accept Tom Sheldon suddenly picking up a grappler and joining Rico in blowing shit up, if they do coop i think they could either have someone who was trained by Rico (possibly someone such as his child) or they could retire Rico (as with him being in 4 (soon to be 5) games he is getting quite old lore wise) and possibly bring in 2 new characters
A duo to destroy everything? that sounds so damn fun!
Want someone to hold your hand lol
Just Cause 3 is by far my favorite of all, and even of all games in HISTORY. Not joking, I have replayed the ENTIRE game tens of times and always adored it. The absolute freedom of what you can do is amazing. 4 completely ruined it by making it WAY TOO complicated and had such a enclosed and forced progression system. I really hope if they ever do 5, that they only expand more on 3"s gameplay loop and even story.
So I'm not the only who's most favourite game is Just Cause 3
@@cpt.martinwalker6268 my favourite game is also just cause 3. I also love just cause 1 and 3.
Same here, i love JC3 the most out of all the games i played.
I don't think it got more complicated, I think it got dumbed down. Ex: instead of destroying things in a base to liberate the base it you just do a mission to liberate a whole section of the map. It got dumbed down and made the game more boring
Same
My friend and I used to play Just Cause 2 together, we would just swap the controller back and forth after dying. We literally called the game badass, as in, "hey let's play badass."
@Vegas 🤣🤣🤣
I’ll say this for JC4, the landscapes are gorgeous, and floating around the map in the wingsuit is super relaxing.
The AI battles are honestly insane in JC4 too
After 3 I noticed one of the things they didn't capitalize on the use of the rebels. I had the most fun just carting rebels around and seeing how long they lasted in a firefight before decimating a base. So maybe keep the movement and grapple of 3, but have a multi faction warfare like 2, but then expand on the revel system. Make it so you can cart around more rebels or even like send a group of them to attack an area. Make it so rebels can drive tanks and helicopters so they can give you areial support when attacking a base. Make it so instead of rebels just standing around they can actively fight with you when you cause chaos and destruction.
I’ve had a few moments attacking a base we’re a friendly jet or helicopter came in to assist me with air support but never got any ground troops unfortunately
I'm pretty sure the devs realised that what they did with JC4's base liberation was bad, since in the Danger Rising DLC, they go back to the formula of "Destroy anything with these specifically marked colours and there'll be a nice explosion" like what was in the previous Just Cause games.
Maybe they need to use both together. Give something for both player bases
The perfect way would be "destroy all the things" but with the chaos objects respawning after liberation.
@@Bacony_Cakes no need, keep them blown up but the chaos soldiers populate it like in JC3, or slowly rebuild
@@HDTomo No, the chaos objects respawn so you can blow them up again.
@@HDTomo slowly rebuilt after say every 3 liberations
One aspect that they can vastly improve on is making the game world feel alive. More details on npcs and towns/cities.
JC3 was just perfect in that regard, maybe a little samey in the long run, but the colours, were never tyring
@@bruschetta7711 the colors are too contrast-y, it hurts my eyes @_@
but you do you someone likes that
that is also a minor problem in jc3, the cities are just people walking around and driving around but the regional towns are massively lively
Imagine an in depth, detailed, interactive Panau. That would be amazing
@@intechio9013 Yes for sure, the main City is a complete ghost town.
For me, Just Cause 4 was definitely a step back for the series, but at the same time they introduced some interesting ideas. Like you said the frontlines feature is pretty unique. Having a full on warzone at all times against the two factions is pretty badass, and the weather affects, even though are inconsequential to moment to moment gameplay, are still interesting ideas, but they just need to fix.
It was the small things Just Cause 4 did that I think it did pretty good. Little things like being able to move freely and much faster on any vehicle, including hanging on sides of giant planes and underneath them. The idea of secondary features with weapons I thought were neat, and the customization the grappler had. Even if that was also inconsequential to the plot, it was an intriguing idea.
For Just Cause 5, I do agree they should make the plot pretty simple, but if they want to make it complex like they’ve been doing now, they really need to fix their mission structure. Obviously starting with the old progression back, but when you do get to the missions, instead of having the same copy paste missions, they should do individualized ones that utilizes the chaos and gimmicks they’ve been introducing. Give you reasons to use the grappler modifications, or reasons to utilize crazy weather, instead of giving you the easiest and mundane options all the time.
I SWEAR THE JETPACK OF THE JUST CAUSE 3 DLC IS SO GOOD. The EDEN expansion is so simple and fun
Can't believe they have made 4 games already and in none of them is an easter egg where Rico pull an enemy with the hook and says "Get over here!"
In JC4 if you use retractor on an enemy Rico would say "you're going there". The same thing if you use ballon, he says "fly you fool"
I'm pretty sure one of the games has an achievement (perhaps JC2?) that's labeled that and you get it for pulling enough enemies with the grapple
Fake fan alert
@@LumpKingDLO I'm not a fan of Just Cause, I haven't even finished one of its games
The story in jc3 is honestly perfect, not to forceful, but still very well written and executed
Spot on…hated the ‘I destroyed that base, oh look it’s all back as it was’ rinse and repeat scenarios 🙄
And time limit missions are never a good idea 😡
I think JC5 should have Rico get captured by trying to take on The Agency and you are a new character who has to go on missions to save him, this would allow Rico to be retired at the end of the game and would make sense to roll back some of the tech you have access to since 1 new hero and 2 you are fighting the Agency
damn that's smart
Danger rising in 4 does show that the agency is attempting to make budget Rico’s
So a rogue agent could make for a interesting player character
Id rather have a prequel or something, the 1st just cause game could have been way better if it was like JC2 and JC3 in gameplay, plus the older weapons are amazing, id love to have that feel of a one man army again that JC4 took away from us with all the goofy gadget guns
Nah
Imagine the new main character is Mario Friego 🔥
The final DLC of Just Cause 4 has a cutscene where The Agentcy constructed a replica of the wheater controle device and that it's located somewhere in the north-east of the US main-land. So unless the devs are going to redcon that DLC... Well, then I'm pretty sure that Just Cause 5 isn't going to take place on an island.
To be fair, It's not like JC really cares about story or continuity. They could just retcon the DLC and like 90% of the playerbase won't even notice.
@@FraserSouris I mean they kinda do though, a just cause 3 dlc foreshadowed jc4. It's not that they don't care about the story. Story just isn't the priority
@@farawaygaming_
JC4 also basically redid the plot of JC2 and 3 with Rico and Sheldon despite the whole point of their arc being that they could trust each other. So It's not like it would be an issue if future JC games also redid plot points.
I think it will take place on a island that is owned by the US kinda how the us made Hawaii a state
they can just make the area an island like gta 5
having come into the series with 4 and going back and trying 2 and getting 3 i have to say 4 is easily my favorite. the boosters were just an on point addition along with the mgs style lift bags. i dont understand the hate 4 gets universally on youtube but i nearly 100% the game on ps4 and bought it again along with 2 and 3 on pc. cant wait for the next addition to the series.
I kind of wish JC4 had a hybrid system to conquer land, like you destroy a certain amount of stuff (permemantly) in a region to increase chaos in that region, which would unlock a mission to move the frontline and officially take the region etc. The frontlines themselves were really cool shouldn’t be abandoned.
One of the weirdest things about jc4 is that it didn’t include multiplayer after the huge popularity of the just cause 3 multiplayer mod. It seems like such a no brainer to include it after all the sales jc3 got from a fan team
Totally!
Also jc2 had the same mod, and it was super popular!
I think the JC2 multiplayer mod was even more popular than the JC3 one.
@@rafox66 yeah but don't tell the JC3 fans that!
I dunno man, JC3 multiplayer never really took off, as was incredibly buggy. 2 was good though.
@@lucask4377 we are all brothers here.
I was shocked when JC4 came out with no multiplayer.
Honestly seemed like a no brainer
Just Cause 2 was absolutely phenomenal
And I just couldn't get into 3 or 4
Tbh just cause 3 is not that bad but 4 is just awful
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@엄시원 jc3 is literally jc2, but 10x better
JC3 was great, however it is rather glitchy and suffers from a good few crashes on console.
Was about to write that, for some reason I really enjoyed playing JC2 but I just couldn't force myself to play either 3 or 4, just didn't have the same feeling.
Just Cause 3 was one of my favorite games when I was younger and my favorite part was that the story was almost entirely optional to the game. Younger me did not understand what the story mission icons on the map were, so I liberated every single base on the map that I could before actually completing the story. I would love that kind of freedom in a sequel, because it was being let loose like that which made it so fun
Boots with thrusters attached to them is what Rico needs, this would enable air and ground dashes, wingsuit boost and more
That's a good idea
There's already a wingsuit booster in the game, I don't know why so many people seem to have missed it 🤨
I loved 2 and enjoy 3. I think I have the same issue you did in that the Story is just not something I care about, but its still fun. I really wish the game Mercenaries would make a comeback because it feels like Just Cause got a lot of its ideas from it, but it did the whole War Zone all around you thing better. I just hope 5 goes back to being more like 3 at lest.
The devs who owned Mercenaries went under I think
@@thegamingprozone1941 They might have, but I would think someone could buy the rights if they wanted to. As long as it wasnt used as a Tax Right Off.
@@thegamingprozone1941 pandemic has been dead for a long time friend. 😢
I like 4’s secondary abilities for weapons. But I miss Rico having 3 weapons
Well JC and mercinaries did have some of the same teams i beleive, blizzard i think im not sure though
I really hate how 4 doesn’t have something pop up when you destroy a chaos object like in 3, there’s no satisfaction to it now.
Also there’s a rocket boot like feature. The Jetpack wing unit in the JC3 DLC is pretty awesome, along with just the DLC in general
Skystriker Wingsuit in JC4.
It has superior missiles, and upgrades are tied to Wingsuit challenges!
👍👍
What do you mean?
@@007georgetony the wingsuit challenges in the base game upgrade the sky strikers missile capacity and boost
@@ibelieveingaming3562 so does JC3? and the challenges are actually good lmao
It's not 3 rings it's an entire course
@@Octi-ku4yf I prefer JC4s wingsuit.
I also prefer the shorter wingsuit challenges you can do on the fly.
Also do you know what you can do with the hoverboard?!
I remember seeing the Just Cause 2 demo on xbox before it was released, I played it and was immediately hooked. I think you got about 30 minutes of game time for the demo and i must have played it at least 10 or more times. My favourite spot was going to the airport and using the grappling in different ways to make the plans crash into each other and different things. JC3 poor optimisation at launch broke my pc and i couldn't play the game and 4 was a huge let downs.
Lol I forgot about the timer 😂😂😂 that was crazy man.
I love when he describes something that was in jc3 perfectly without realizing with the jetpack
I loved JC3 so much. Anytime i ever got bored id load it up and spend an hour or so gathering vehicles together and turning them into exploding beyblades
The fact that someone in the Just Cause 4 team thought it was a good idea to limit ammo on the helicopter weapons... SERIOUSLY??? YOU'RE MAKING A JUST CAUSE GAME
And no attaching tethers ??
Right I love infinite ammo in vehicles in video games that's one reason why I didn't like BF5
about the rocket boots thingy in just cause 3, the air dlc or whatever its called upgrades youre wing suit to have guns, rockets, and a rocket booster, wich basicly turns you into a human plane
My proposal is that Avalanche Studios takes the Criterion approach: "fuck it, we'll make a remaster".
You should’ve mentioned the lightning gun from just cause 4, it’s the perfect example of the change to not being about blowing stuff up. The storm grenade causes random lightning to spawn and do pretty much nothing helpful, whereas in Just cause 3 you can get the Eden spark in the dlc which lets you call lightning down from the sky in a big beam to target whatever you wanted, it would also cause people and objects in that area to float for a second which you could use to make people run off of cliffs and stuff cause of the momentum. When I got the lightning gun in just cause 4 that’s the exact moment I stopped playing cause the Eden spark was so much fun
btw these lighting strikes created by the lighting grenade in jc4 can actually kill you at any random moment like wtf brah
It’s ironic he mentioned rocket boots for JC5 when the Bavarium wing suit from the first JC3 DLC does exactly that.
Just Cause 3 is one of those games I will never forget. Its beauty is on par or better than games like GTA 5 and this is coming from a huge GTA fan. From raiding police stations to blowing up bases in a Bavarium chopper, nothing in that game wasn't fun.
AND YOU DRESS LIKE A PUNK!!!@!!!
Getting the squalo boat was the least fun thing about the game
@@saddamhussein2 You don't know what 'not fun' is until you've done the transmitter defense missions in 4. I imagine how many people must've ragequit after them.
@@aircraft2yess those missions are a pain in the ass, so annoying
When i started playing just cause 4, i thought there would be missions similar to the war missions in jc3 but on the front lines with the risk of having your front pushed back if you performed badly
I have nearly 1000 hours on Just Cause 3, and I can confirm that no matter what, there’s always something more to do in the game. It’s literally timeless and hasn’t gotten old for 900+ hours of me playing it. Truly amazing game.
The part about the Wingsuit getting a booster I agree.
Except I want it to be unlocked through side progression, like with JC3's gear mods, or maybe a little side mission that has it as a final reward. Don't lock the thruster powered wingsuit behind DLC for the third time in a row.
Locking it behind DLC made sense in JC3 because that was the first appearance of it, and the DLC it was a part of made sense (attacking an airship full of drones). Locking behind DLC in JC4 made no sense, especially since it was a downgrade of JC3s thruster wingsuit.
And make it so we cam get targeted by S.A.M. launchers while the booster wingsuit is equipped, like in JC3.
The mech should be unlockable too.
I played both Just Cause 1 and 2 when they released, Just Cause 2 was absolutely mind blowing at the time and I still remember that one mission where you go to a remote island on the map and there's guys that still think a war is going on.
Just Cause 3 though was just on another level. It also helped me because around the time I got it I went through a pretty bad break up and just going around blowing shit up really helped to take my mind off it all.
Just Cause 4 is okay but definitely weaker in terms of progression mechanics than 2 and 3. The weather system stuff was cool but like you said after a couple minutes you realise there's really not much you actually do with it other than it being a visual spectacle. I think they made the upgrades far too complicated, it was a cool concept to be able to set up your gear in certain ways but again in practice it wasn't really that useful.
A remastered version of Just Cause 3 with new graphics, more destructables, and the frontlines would be nice
Psychopath here, I loved bowing bridges up when cars were on them in JC3, and was very saddened that they made blowing bridges up harder in JC4, but sending someone to space with a balloon in a tether of people is fun too.
After watching a few videos about JC4, it's strange to me that people don't mention the side story of Rico helping the film crew with stunts. I think I played about a third of the game before just getting frustrated and stopping, and those were the only fun parts for me. I thought it would've made for a better story, that he's helping with this movie and stumble upon a rebellion or something, not that his Dad is some kind of super-villain.
I sometimes forget that I am a huge Just Cause fan, I'm literally feeling JC in my heart
Same, like how can I forget about just cause?
@@Spider-tank755 nah I like it, I just don't play it, but when I see something about JC, I got *neuron activation*
edit: i play it from time to time
I have never played JC1, but the great thing about JC2 was how serious it was without taking itself seriously at all, and I mean absolutely at all. Silly names, silly accents, over the top silly fun action. In JC3 things got cooler but still had a bit of tongue in cheek, a great balance. In JC4 the story was convoluted and Rico was now wannabe the type of ultracool action hero the whole series was designed to ridicule. The series worked because they didn't take themselves seriously. The moment they did, it all became Fremdscham.
I also disliked how all the activities which were many fun challenges of a minute and a half each, turned into COUNTLESS meaningless chores of "hit these three checkpoint markers" which never started before they were finished and over far before they even started to be fun, then on to the next. I could install JC3 again just to play the challenges. My platinum in JC4 is one I regret spending time on, and took a year of on and offs.
This made me go and re download jc3. I forgot how much fun I had in that game. Looking forward to playing through it again!
I would also like it if JC5 would have it so that the agency has a chance to choose a random front line and push it back so that you have to make progress again. I think that it would add a bit more variation to the mix and of course, it would be rare so that the agency doesn't ruin your progress in 15 mins
It's funny how you managed to perfectly encapsulate my feelings toward JC4.
Your wrong.
Fight me virgin!
Really, if JC4's progression carried over from JC3, it'd probably be the best in the series. I could see this making the frontlines a lot more interesting. Leave an outpost last, and you can see the last of the Black Hand in the area desperately trying to fend off the rebelling forces. Perhaps even include some enviromental storytelling by having multiple transport vehicles in the outpost, implying that they're trying to evacuate.
I didn't mind the story focus of 3 and 4. They still had a level of goofiness and charm to them like Mario getting Rico to kiss a cow, or the DLC in JC4 that literally has you fighting demon aliens.
I remember playing this game a few months ago, I did the extremely dull escort and switch flipping missions at the start, and after that i just started screwing around with the tornado and the boosters before forgetting about the game and deleting it.
Recently I watched a Jerma Vod of JC4. He did the exact same thing.
Also, fun fact. The bulk of this video was written back in June when a flight delay caused me to miss a connecting flight. Thus leaving me trapped in the Montreal airport for a day. And yes, the Montreal airport is the worst airport I've ever had the displeasure of spending time in.
No shit when Montreal is in Quebec
Then you haven't travelled much lmao, Montreal is an okay airport. Have you seen the shit stains that are the Houstons, Detroits and Washington DCs of the world? MTL is paradise next to these crumbling monstrosities
I miss being able to stay attached to something while it's blowing up. Being able to stick to the underside of a crane as it careens towards the ground is amazing and I never forgave 3 for removing it.
The best thing about the series is just how much of a sandbox it is. In JC3, if you want, you can immediately go liberate a base in the last island to get a bavarium tank, and then tear down the much easier bases back in the first island. The only thing that keeps the game sort of linear is the missions, which dont block you from skipping ahead in any way. You can even liberate every single province before you even start the story.
3 was the best. I’ll admit I’ve never completed the game but as you said, bumbling around completing missions. It’s always fun gliding around, having my monkey brain see something new &/ interesting than messing with it just made it all fun and worthwhile
One thing I disliked about Just Cause 3 & 4 was the lack of collectables. JC2 collect a thon was fun and finding money, suitcase or an amor part was exciting. Now what ever Ricos health has it what he has. I liked upgrading and seeing my Rico getting stronger by just exploring the map
Wdym no collectibles in jc3, I get jc4 but 3???
I hated the collectables in JC2. Not because of what you had to do, but because of the sheer number of them. I remember tallying them up and it came to something like 500 (or 5000?) in total. I like collecting stuff but there's a point where oversaturation creates diminishing returns on fun. I'd rather have 10 really, really fun and well designed collectables that I don't need a guide/video to find them all than 100 collectables that are only there to justify map exploration of a map that's arguably too big because of all the settlements that have nothing of note in them aside from a couple of collectables.
3 was a collect-a-thon
Plane parts, shotgun pistol parts, tombs, shrines, jumps, audio logs.
@@Commrade-DOGE Yeah, but there was relatively few of each, took you to a unique location and had cool gameplay/lore tied to them. You could get all of them in a day if you wanted and had a guide.
JC2's collectables would take months, even with a guide.
@@PlebNC good stuff
I feel like this series doesn't get enough love it deserves. Feels really good when I see videos about it on my recommended. Thanks for making this video!
I remember playing JC2 as a kid with my neighbor and having a grand ole time. The destructible environments, the grappling hook, the freedom to do whatever just for fun. That game set the bar for what I would see as sandbox essentials for the most fun gameplay to this day.
The just cause games are the only games where you can subconsciously forget to use a gun as you send people into space and tether them together at mach 2.
I used to watch my dad play this game when i was like 7 or smth, was a great experience even though i barely understood what was going on. When i got older he used to let me and my sister play, mainly just using the vehicles and stuff.
Great video! Brought back a lot of memories.
I would honestly do a in depth over haul of the destruction system. Make is so full buildings can be destroyed in pieces (and they have a inside that you can enter) Apply this to vehicles as well (so wings of jets can be ripped off or cars smashed and torn apart) add a fuel and ammo aspects to vehicles (this will prevent just getting one vehicle and using it for a long time. and an additional effect that I'll explain now.) Have different degrees of explosives. Hand grande small explosive, c4 larger, warhead massive. The more fuel and ammo a vehicle has will increase it's explosive potential.
All these things tying together to reward players for creative use in their tools to get more "bang" for their buck destruction wise.
Omg that would be awesome! Battlefield level destruction. And if Just Cause 5 is set in the US, we could topple skyscrapers.
@@mlrestrepo7093 Yep that's where the inspiration came from!
The reason most games don't do this is because consumer PC hardware will choke on that level of physics computation. It'd slow the game to a crawl if not outright crash. That's why when games do have destructible environments, they're usually made of copy/paste assets assembled with pre-modeled components. If you try to do that with a game like Just Cause, it'd barely run at all, even on newer hardware. Never mind the herculean development effort it would take.
@@weezusQL erm…..they already did this with red faction guerrilla. You can tear down entire buildings with just your hammer. It’s fully open world and fully destructible. Also, teardown exists.
We have the tech and yet no one uses it.
21:52 Just Cause 3 has a rocket powered Wingsuit with the Sky Fortress DLC.
There's also a jetpack dlc in 4
At the end taking down the agency goes to the add on danger rising but at the end of that it does end on a cliff hangar again of taking down the agency
I remember playing the Xbox 360 demo over and over as a poor kid 😂😂😂
Me too bro 😭😂
I thought I was the only one 😭
I remember loving 2, playing the demo over and over on the 360, and finished the story, in my opinion from a distance it's one of the best looking games ever made, I don't know what they did to make the draw distance so clean but it worked perfectly (They kinda messed that up in 3)
I was hyped for the 3rd game and loved it too, I even played it to 100% completion which is rare for me
I tried my absolute best to give 4 the time of day, and went back to it multiple times, but nothing sticks me to the game. I've barely explored the map and I have no idea if I'm progressing the story properly, the new tools are fun but it's so difficult to keep track of which tool I'm using, the tools power, if there's a trigger hotkey, is it held or pressed, am I on the right custom, and the controls feel bloated and uncomfortable
3 felt like such a smooth progression from the mechanics of 2, the upgrades, the controls, even progressing the black market was fun and easy to figure out, it did it in a much nicer way than 4, and progressing through the game in general felt more fun, I get stuck figuring out what to do a lot in 4, and usually just because I had no idea what would progress the mission, I never really had that with 3, it would only have me stuck when there was a difficult challenge ahead of me
I was introduced to this series by Just Cause 4, which despite its bugs and issues was still very fun to me. I can see why JC3 players would be upset with JC4, but I don't think it deserves all the hate it gets
The infestation DLC really capitalizes on the new grapple options.
It should also be noted aside from the turret mission you mentioned, ballooning enemy combatants does something to the queuing and does not send nearly as much when dealing with primarily foot soldiers (balloon not set to infinite height).
The fact that I could not simply strap a rocket grapple onto the back of bomb vehicles was criminal. Maybe my game was just glitchy.
I did like how pushing down to remove all grapples actually worked in 4, it usually didn’t in three unless I just got into a vehicle.
In 3, I took down the strongholds before the missile systems were disabled. It was hard and I died a lot in the beginning, but it was rewarding when it was completed. I couldn’t do that at all in 4 and it made me sad.
Lastly, the helicopter AI was a huge issue this game. They would randomly silently span behind you after I just checked the skies before using a console WAY too often. Then there was the fact they would become suicidal. I mean sometimes they would just crash, be it friend or foe and typically into the closest helicopter. This would typically be the helicopter I am piloting, but sometimes their own team or opposing AI. This happened A LOT in 4 and seldom in 3.
The customization for the grapple abilities was great and did add a great lair of using the certain loadouts for certain situations. My one complaint here is that it was easy to get 2/3 fully customizable but the artifact guy’s stuff was just not plentiful enough.
The melee whip’s added range was a blessing, but it could have been an unlockable and still been worth it personally.
I fully suggest trying a no gun run. The balloons on helicopters were typically a KO as they’d turn it on its side or upside down. I SHOULD have used the jets on tower sentries to blast them off the side, but didn’t think about that until just now. I also slightly regret not throwing all the elements on the tower for the final assault just for the laughs.
I loved how in 3 after you unlock things you can chose to turn them off and on such a simple feature that's you play how you want to no matter what
21:55 thats actually a thing in jc3 dlc. Literally exactly how you described it
Just Cause 3 was the pinnacle game of the series. The amount of sandbox things and freedom you can have with the drop cargo feature and wingsuit / upgrades were so damn fun. Too bad on PC it's a broken mess.
Last year I tried Just Cause 4 after hearing my friends talk about how bad it was and decided to check it out myself. I played the first few campaign missions and then just went off exploring, and decided to just shrug off the story and conquer the regions. This probably took me about a week or 2, coming home after school and pouring some hours into the game. When I had only a handful of regions left, I noticed that I needed to finish certain missions to conquer them. So basically I just zoomed through those missions and before I knew it I finished the game. Amazed at how short the game felt, considering I was mostly just goofing off, I looked up the average runtime of the game. Turns out that's just what you do, who woulda thunk? (This might've been explained somewhere in cutscenes or shown up on the screen but I'll occasionally not pay attention that sorta stuff :P)
One of the biggest flunks I think avalanche did is not adding multiplayer when fans have been asking for it for years and also the success of the multiplayer mod in just cause 3
You make such an awesome content ✨
Just Cause 2 has to be my all time favourite. 10 years old and playing it on the Xbox 360 with my brother, was great times. Just flying and driving around the huge map with many unique locations. It was a masterpiece!
I spent a good month on Just Cause 3 the first time I beat it. First time playing 4 I beat it within 2 days of downloading it. There was not much to distract me from just running the story.
I don't know but when I woke up earlier I was hoping for you to post soon
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The jetpack wingsuit made JC3’s gameplay loop perfect. You should earn it through gameplay in the story. If they want a new gimmick they should take inspo from XxX and extreme sports expanding on stylish chaos tricks and having deeper hoverboard mechanics. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD ADD MULTIPLAYER.
man i remember starting every weekend infiltrating the military base in just cause 2. It kinda amazes me how badly i could suck at something i did every week as a kid, i didnt even remember where the base was half the time
This was a great video. I got 50 for my birthday. Im gonna pick this up and see what i think
Its insane to think that saint rows 2 and just cause 2. Now both franchises are in the shitter after those phenomenal games.
JC4 was a massive downgrade from JC3. Still remember the graphics looked like a 7th generation game when it came out before the patches.
I just started play the JC series. I was told to start at JC3. Still playing and it’s extremely fun. The fact that I spent my first hours kill enemies and then spending a bunch of time pulling trucks and cars off the blown up bridge. So cool to watch cars fall from the bridge. Extremely fun
22:05 JC3 DLC had a jetpack, and it was even cooler than you described here. As well as flying around, you had lock-on missiles, and a machine gun. You could also get a boost to insta-fly off of the ground, or from water(!!). - The main trade-off was that with the jetpack, enemy SAMs could also lock onto you; but you had a quick dodge-roll to dodge those, too.
I cannot remember what JC4 did with this.
Thank you for making this video... you see part four was the first and only game in the series that I ever played and no matter how much I wanted to like it, I just couldn't get into it and I thought there was something wrong with me... so with that being said I am going to go and give part three a try. Thank you for the great video !!
I have to say 3 struck me as the point where problems were setting in. The convoluted unlock system where you had to do specific not-fun side missions to get specific things in a specific order, the decision that Mexican Batman should become Hairy Italian, and the idea that each location should come with a shopping list of boring tasks to accomplish rather than more things to blow up...plus the ridiculous balance issues of the DLC where you got a thing that made the wingsuit, grapple and parachute (and all aircraft) obsolete, the only land vehicle you'll ever need, and the only boat you'll ever need.
Great summarisation :)
The worst out post take over for me was the one where you must defend the transmission tower from multiple waves of tanks, drones and helicopters. Also all of Los Demonios is just a pain in the ass.
My biggest gripe of JC4 is that it seemed unfairly balanced. In JC3, you always felt capable. Some things more difficult than others, but never frustratingly so. But in JC4, you were met with a nearly insurmountable barrage of enemies, weather and death by proxy even when attempting the most mundane task. The game truly feels programmed to simply bulldoze you until you get lucky rather than giving you a challenge which becomes doable given a bit of strategy and finesse.
I don't know man. Seems pretty easy to me. I have only died like 4 times 2 of which was intentionally.
It is incredibly easy, i don't usually have a hard time in the game.
Just Cause 2 is still my favorite.
I liked how much detail JC2 had.
How taking a city car become insanely slippery on non perfect pavement
I'm playing the game right now. Haven't played 3 but fooling around in 2 was a blast and man... this video is so accurate: The core experience is great but the gameplay and mission structure is actively wanting that you have zero fun
Ah yes, just Cause.
The series that filled the gap left by Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction following Pandemic's closure because THQ fell through.
Actually, what happened is that Electronic Arts bought Pandemic. Pandemic then made Mercenaries 2 World In Flames and The Saboteur before EA shut them down permanently. Also, Mercenaries Playground Of Destruction was actually published by LucasArts, not THQ. THQ published Destroy All Humans, another one of Pandemic's games.
@@christopherregan1654 THQ's closure was still a contributing factor.
The menu system In JC 4 is horrifying!
Damn, I forgot half of the missions mentioned from Just Cause 4.
I still remember one liners from Mario Frigo & Et Cetera, and even lines from Just Cause 2.
i remember i did all the frontlines and hence got rid of them all, which i just got sad cuz couldnt go find one anymore and kill things mindlessly