Designers React to Design Critique- Young Guns Ep 6
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Before we tackle the next challenge, the Young Guns react to Chris' critique of their designs for the packaging design challenge. Were they nervous, angry, accepting, resentful or embracing? Watch and see.
Why are there no women? Season 2 will feature women only. Stay tuned for details.
02:00 Sharif Reacts
04:42 Connor Reacts
09:12 Sean Reacts
12:23 Arun Reacts
16:14 Spencer Reacts
20:20 Next challenge: Read Win Without Pitching Manifesto by Blair Enns
amzn.to/2JIQm0y
PAST EPISODES
EP 1 - • Young Graphic Designer...
EP 2 - • Designer Portfolio Rev...
EP 3 - • Pharma Package Design ...
EP 4 - • Packaging Design Chall...
EP 5 - • Packaging Design Criti...
Meet the Young Guns:👇
Sharif El Komi Egypt
www.behance.ne...
Connor Fowler UK
/ cfowlerdesign
Spencer Fraye USA
spencerfraye.com
Arun Sharma India
www.thescienti...
Sean Campbell USA
seancampbell.me
Want a deeper dive? Typography, Lettering, Sales & Marketing, Social Media and The Business of Design courses available here:
goo.gl/bRt5qd
-
Love the content? Become a sustaining member for $5/mo today.
goo.gl/uKcJ3N
BOOKLIST -
Essential Reading for Creative Professionals: bit.ly/biz-boo...
Essential Design Books: bit.ly/futur-d...
Kits & Proposals:
goo.gl/mSjuWQ
Visit our website:
www.thefutur.com
FREE resources:
goo.gl/Qh6gHr
Mandarin (Chinese) Subtitles on UiiUii
uiiiuiii.com/?...
-
AFFILIATE LINKS*
🙏 Support The Futur by purchasing through our affiliate links:
Amazon: bit.ly/thefutur...
Webflow: bit.ly/2EbET9l
Retro Supply Co.: bit.ly/2GW8gzR
Creative Market: goo.gl/g4jlTE
Design Cuts: bit.ly/2GSsAR3
✍️ Sharpen your skills by taking a course, using our affiliate links:
Skillshare: goo.gl/YCo2uT
School of Motion: bit.ly/futur-som
Bring Your Own Laptop Tutorials: byol.me/thefutur
🎧 Do you like the music? Check out the music libraries we use in our affiliate links below:
Epidemic Sound: share.epidemics...
Artlist: bit.ly/2uWdna7
Get our FAVORITE notebook from Baron Fig: baronfig.com/?...
Artlist: goo.gl/aN8idZ
-
Futur Podcast on iTunes: 🎙
itunes.apple.c....
-
Host- Chris Do
Cinematography- Mark Contreras
Editor- Mark Contreras
Futur Theme Music - Adam Sanborne www.adamsanborn...
Annotations- Melissa Katherine
Typefaces: Futura, Din, Helvetica Neue
Futur theme song- Adam Sanborne
===
*By making a purchase through any of our affiliate links, we receive a very small commission at no extra cost to you. This helps us on our mission to provide quality education to you. Thank you.
Just an idea...rather than printing the soap color on the sleeve, Arun could have punched flower shaped holes in the label to reveal the product's color.
That would have been beautiful
Designers react to designer reacting to designers.
#Inception
Me reacting to a comment to designers reacting to a designer reacting to designers
Just turned 17 and going to college in the Fall. I'm a front-end web developer but I tried a bit of graphic design and loved it. After watching this series, I think I'm going to consider going deeper and exploring graphic design some more. Definitely excited for the new episodes! Thanks so much to The Futur for putting this out here for teens to find!
only the last guy was humble and can take constructive criticism
they're young and all relatively humble. it's hard to hear the criticism when you work on something so passionately. but some took the criticism better than others.
that is true
Lol what?
I don't remember disagreeing or putting up any arguments against what Chris said 😂
How is accepting your mistakes not being humble or not taking criticism properly.?
Thank you, I try not to take any critiques of my work too personally, and try to approach things with a growth mindset. I appreciate it!
19:05 Never let pass something that feels off.
Hi guys,
I've been binge watching all of your videos and looking at your website. You touch on not having to go to school to become a designer. This is great for me because I didn't go to design school. However, I feel like there's a gap in my knowledge with some of the terminology. Do you guys recommend a design dictionary of sorts? (BTW if you decide to make one yourselves, I'd totally buy it.)
Auj i would recommend reading a few books on typography. That’ll help.
To many of these not saying WHAT they are plain on the front should have been -3 points on just about all of them.
Where's the next episode?
Coming this Friday.
I like how they don't just accept Chris's critique, but they try to learn from it and take their own viewpoint.
I'd like to see more "shows" or "series" like this!
fantastic. we'll make more if you and others keep watching.
The Futur excellent
How (much) the designer interprets and absorb the critique in front of a global audience, while at the same time having to confront and align with their own egos into making a video response is what makes this design/art critique so wonderful. Truth and real answer are kept open-ended at the same time.
Great top-tier quality content there, very valuable!
Caleb Ong glad to hear you enjoying what we are putting out there.
I really like that you give the Young Guns a chance to share their thoughts and reflections on Chris' feedback, it's a huge value-add compared to just having a one-way communication!
if I had more time, I would include a response video to their response.
Sharif you should have a spray visual element because not everyone can read so it aids the functionality of the design.
Love Sharif's rebuttal! Kid is going places.
I couldn't agree more!
I'm on the fence - I feel he doesn't take criticism too well, but his reasonings were sound!
watch and see who grows the most during this process. there are atleast 2 more design challenges. let's circle back to this and see who learned the most.
He came off very arrogant.
Chris - I only wished I had you around back in the day when I was first learning this! I hope the “Young Guns” appreciate the incredible opportunity and kindness you’ve shown, not to mention what you’re TEACHING! They have some nice talent but I believe everyone can always learn something. Well done!
So wheres the black guy in the thumbnail? didn't see him throughout the whole video.. not even in the background lol
he's stock photo that had the perfect reaction, like what?!!
The Futur LOL
I love how Chris lives out his educational beliefs by challenging these designers in something other than design. This is truly the Skool of the Futur!
Joshua Smith I see you slipping that in there.
Another assignment to see if they read the book is to create a Cover for it ;)
As a cover designer I would soak that up. There's just not enough content out there.
I love the real life boring products. Schools usually give you fun products with unlimited budgets that are not realistic.
my school gives out the most boring shit. having not much to work with does help you get really creative.
Yeah, this was a great and realistic challenge.
The constraints of a boring product will truly test you because you are trying to improve something that's already successful. So actually improving its design, convincing the client, and creating more value is really difficult. Designers still have to pray sales immediately improve but there could be so many unpredictable factors that eventually effect sales and client biases.
I'd love to be on season 3 of young guns, I know season 2 will be all women...or maybe I can wear a wig and be in season 2...
Sambath Both Bou chum get ready.
Spencer is the most advanced among them. How he responded to the critic was so mature and perfect. I like it. Thanks Futur for bringing up such show. Helping me to learn a lot. Hope we will get more from the Futur in future!!!
Old Video but still great value
Another chance for young guns to share their thoughts is really great
This is great! I'm headed to the nearest pharmacy to give it a shot! Great challenge, can't wait to see more.
show us what you come up with.
Love these episodes with designers, the process, the design and the critiques. This is great insight and advice, so thanks to everyone involved.
I wish my tutors in my final year at university were this helpful!
we can be your virtual tutors.
For sure, still learning even though I am an in-house designer. Keep it up 👍
Wow! The "Front" and "Back" labels he did at 12:35 were so helpful! I would have easily confused myself whichever side a plain bar of soap is facing. That's a great design process right there!
Thanks man!!
I appreciate that you liked my process even though I didn't win 😅
Again, kudos to the young guns, really! I remember, at that age, I was way more stuck up towards critique, at least in matter of the creative part. Then again, I sorta still am. Meaning, if you consider yourself a designer, it's necessary to stand by your decisions regarding pure layout, if you're able to explain your fundamental motives. I think it's one of the most important things to learn when becoming a designer; knowing when to accept rightful critique, as supposed to dealing with a client who is (excuse my French), full of bullshit, just to have an opinion.
Other critique like, for instance, the volume of the actual contents (? sorry, I'm not sure how to refer to that in correct English) would be something on the checklist of necessities I'd ask the client beforehand, even for a redesign. Sure, it's pretty obvious for products like these, but I often had completely opposite reactions when considering things like that for a redesign: "no problem" versus "well, of course that's important". I'm not sure about the detailed instructions for this project, but in this particular case, designers aren't pharmaceuticals and, in my opinion, are not supposed to know whether something is obligated or not to include it in the design.
Being a designer for a long time, self-employed for 2 years, and being aware of my poor skills as a team player, I do sort of miss well-considered opinions of others, that are passionate about equally well-constructed design. But thanks to you guys, I am constantly reminded about the importance of consistency about every aspect of the job. Great work!
I'm not ashamed to tell you I have other expenses I need to make, therefor I have never contributed to your work, but since I'm starting to notice that picking up and practicing even some of the small bits of your contents is resulting in a better organised and growing designer myself, I look forward to do so in The Futur. Greetings from Antwerp, and thank you!
regardless of experience or accolades, it's important to keep an open mind to external input.
Love the challenge. In the course I was on somewhere else last year that book slowly became the one everyone felt they should read. (Tip for research Jonathan Stark did a podcast with Blair a few months ago and it’s great listen with advice)
Only designing for a year!?
Thanks! I've been working hard 😊
This series is awesome !! Would love to see more of this if it is possible. Thanks Chris and the futur team for the content.
I love the futur! Thank you for the amazing knowledge you share for free with us!
love you too.
The Closol Young Gun mentioned that People in Egypt don't like to read in one of the previous episode, but didn't add any form of Icon showing what the product was and didn't want to accept that critique, haha Young Guns
Great episode!
Months late to this series, but I want to point out that although Sharif has a point that it is an over-the-counter transaction for customers, not having a defining mark for the different types of that product will also make it hard for the pharmacists/vendors to identify and sort it themselves. I think even some sort of legible icon, if not a larger graphic in the negative space, would work as a marker and not interrupt his overall design.
When is the next episode please?
check our FB page. it will be live and you can play along.
Good stuff. Valuable perspectives any designer can learn from. I hope you guys consider doing more of this.
we have more in this series. atleast 2 more design challenges.
Haha genius challenge, love it! :)
This content is so good!
Adrian Adermann yay 😀
I'm the only one who thought 21:03 "Because you will make a infographic of the book!!" ??
lmao is that actually "Y-G" in the thumbnail. did anyone catch that? LOL
congrats to everyone, can't wait for the next episode!
this should be a hoot.
Wow, these guys are so great, they took the critique very well
1. I agree 100% - if it's bought in pharmacy then most of the time you're not the one who chooses the product by visuals, you say "I want xyz in spray form" and pharmacist gives you that (if the product is available without prescription on supermarket shelf then it's a different story).
2. I would never thought of that (original) image as minotaur, it looked to me like some goofy humanized bull-figure which was supposed to symbolise warmth or even burning hot, even when Chris said about minotaur, I'm still not sure if minotaur represents duality or hot/cold - i think that's a stretch. Secondly, if you go on covonia website there's a few images of bulls, same in tv commercial - they never mention minotaur. I think bull is their actual symbol (or they left minotaur and went for bull as it's easier to portray in modern photo/video campaigns) and Connor did a good job here (outlined version looked better tho)
3. Weight should be on the front, no question about that. Not sure about spacing of the letters, seems ok to me, wifi signal would be cool imo - layout and colors of the design suggest that it's a medical product so i wouldn't say it looks as something electronic-related.
4. Colors bring a lot to the table, shame it wasn't expressed when showing the project, now it looks way better
5. I think Chris is right that changing the bottle makes it expensive for the company, but i also agree with Spencer - old bottle was something i would never look at as lotion, looks more like something you use to clean the toilet or other nasty chemical-cleaner. If it should be redesigned - it should be remade from scratch. White version looks way better and fits the luxurious description they seem to identify with, also i didn't notice 3 marks/logos on the front, to me name and framed GB is one symbol, crowded one but still :) Even with the problems of 3 awkwardly spaced blocks, still looks way better than original and does it's job.
Just my thoughts overall :) Thanks Futur
2. Its a Minotaur. Half man. Half bull. The drop has 2 sides to it. Pretty straightforward man.
Huge thanks for all of the awesome content Chris and the team put out. Found your podcast about a year ago, and it’s been life-changing (honestly). Although a lot of the content you guys put out is aimed at motion designers, I’ve found it incredibly useful in children’s illustration. The tips and tricks and stories I’ve heard from Chris (who I consider a mentor despite him not knowing I exist 😂) have allowed me to thrive in this illustration market while being a full-time art student. Hope to someday work alongside the kind of creators the team at the Futur & Blind have!
Cheers 👋
Andrew Thomas Appreciate it! Good luck Andrew.
I loved this series . It was very helpful and informative .
How can i be contestant of next young gun series ?
wait for a call for submissions.
Most of your thumbnails show who you talk with in given episode. This one is a bit misleading ;)
you don't like it? i don't have one of the YG reacting like this.
DO ,, u r a living legend
Razi Salah Thank you.
Is the win without pitching live gameshow only for them or for the viewers too? :P Super hyped for the next episode!
the YG's will be on the spot. but you can play along. we'll do our best to make it as interactive as possible.
Can I buy the Futur intro music for the livestreams?
Jervis yes. On iTunes.
The Futur on Android???
Love how Chris is selling without selling. Very smart move "Winner takes all" :) :)
haha. what am i selling? ;)
The GB logotype reminded me of the a chain of supermarkets in Venezuela, called Excelsior Gama. If anyone is curious enough to look it up, you'll see the resemblances. I point this out, because of the importance of doing an in-depth research when doing creative work.
So there was never a follow up episode 7 to this? Dying to see the next challenge!
It's great to share challengers' reactions!
Thanks Christ!! 😇
You are very welcome!
I'm so glad that people are really liking what we're doing even if there were so many mistakes.
It's a reason that people like it.
Hey, Arun. Love from India! A personal thank you for being so brave as to make mistakes publicly so that we could all join you in the learning process. Like Mark said, the fact that you make mistakes similar to what many of us in the audience would make is what makes the learning so strong from The Futur's videos, even if it's Molly who's making the mistakes (huge thanks to Molly as well). The mistakes are invaluable points of learning as compared to a presentation of a flawless designer. It's why I love The Futur channel compared to anything else on TH-cam.
Not mistakes. Learning opportunities.
The Futur yesss
Hey man love your work just be sure not to loose at your opportunities u get
because your parents feel like it would be better if u concentrate at your studies 😅
Love from India
I think would be really interesting to add a surprise tie breaking episode where they get visited by the client and he says.. "Yeah, but my wife doesn't like the color. Can I see another option?" And the designers will have to come up with some really clever but convincing sell. So it's kinda like a real world lifeline..
that only happens larry when you aren't given a brief or misunderstand it.
Mäh, am I stupid or is there no episode 7?!
check the YG playlist.
The Futur ok, so I was stupid 😉 Found it!
I would love to see Zimri Mayfield on one of these challenges!
who is that?
1st
What? No women?
Good grief...
read the show notes.
Sorry, it was just my first reaction seeing a male panel before reading the notes. It is scary how that was my first thought.
Great episode Chris. Thank you for your hard work!
Appreciate it!
I felt Arun's was the best. The khadi soap, being a handmade soap, it does not have sharp features like manufactured soaps. Wrapping up the package would help hide those imperfections when compared with other soaps.
thank you for the support!