@@THEcoolGAMER60 its because fortnite tried to be cheeky to skirt that fee with in game payment system, I am saying apple to recognize procreates for their help on sales and reduce their 30% from their side.
When I was debating between upgrading my iPad in 2019, or getting a Wacom Cintiq, I made the decision for my iPad Pro. I already had procreate on my previous iPad, so I didn’t need to buy it again. With Cintiq, I probably had to upgrade my computer at some point. The iPad Pro I got in 2019, I still use every single day and it runs like a dream, added bonus that I didn’t need an overpriced Adobe subscription to actually draw.
It will be an ultra small project. One thing iPads aren’t designed for is server integration. So sharing files across people will be a pain, and also if you work in a big studio they are crazy secure with their files, and all these security programs in your PC at work just don’t exist on iPad. You will see small projects, commercials, video clips shorts. Segments in films and tv shows use it. Tiktok and TH-cam projects. A full production pipeline on iPad won’t happen. Studios would love that, because cintiq’s, computers are expensive, but the logistics mentioned before means we are far away from that.
I’m psyched that we’re getting software that can produce old school classic Disney quality to modern quality animations, that’s incredible power for a one time payment of 20$
It’s not just about the software, it’s about the person who uses the software. Heck, Aaron Blaise probably could have made the same film in Callipeg or ToonSquid. The most important thing when producing old school Disney animation is knowing all the tips and tricks found in animation books, knowing how to use reference the right way, and mastering the charts.
@@dillonwright13 I think the point OP is trying to make is that producing an entire animation before was simply not feasible for $20, and even the top apps in the industry that cost much more suffer from problems; Adobe Animate is a nightmare to work with as anyone who's used it can testify, Toon Boom Harmony is a spaceship and extremely hard to understand and use without straight up studying it, and Clip Studio has a subpar player, doesn't even have audio scrubbing, and I have no clue how it would handle long animations. Procreate Dreams is claiming to have fixed all those issues while ALSO being orders of magnitude cheaper AND being able to achieve the highest degree of results.
I'm hoping for a Disney Animation comeback, though! Blaise DID a GREAT WORK here, of course.. I once did an animationmovie in filmschool ( in ANIMO, back then) Funnily about a bird that tries to fly, also falls on a branch, and also get's catapulted into air to discover "his REAL FLYING abilities, after all, called ICARUS.. This TRIGGERED me , personally, seeing this ( in a GOOD WAY! Thanks Aaron Blaise !!) Really!! But all his personal craft, mastery and wizardry beside, this is STILL ASTONISHING, that apperantly you could do the exact LOOK and FEEL, INSIDE THIS new standalone-software..(with the right knowlege of course), for just a ONE TIME PAYMENT!! The drawings were DRAWN INSIDE the software, that means the brushes, onion skinning , flipbook-thing is WORKING and you can also work with SOUND inside, do a avoice-over directly in PCD, editing, colouring, you NAME it !! Gives me HOPE! GOOD JOB !! Need to TRY THIS OUT in the future, maybe only for Storyboarding /animatics I'm pretty rusty in animation, nowadays 😀!@@dillonwright13
Tiny correction: The only parts that were animated frame by frame in the Witch piece were the eye blinks and the beaks of the seagulls. Everything else was warp/position/scale/rotation/ performed. Her purse is animated via rotation perform, her skirt/hat/hair is multiple passes of warp perform (you can just keep recording over each perform warp pass and it just adds deformations on top. super powerful), the broom wiggle was warp performed on two separate layers, the seagull wings were y-scale performed etc. I could have done all of it frame by frame too, but warp perform is much faster and non-destructive.
Agree, instant purchase as well. Wish Brad would stop giving Clip Studio and other subscription-only apps a pass. Never ending subscriptions are user-hostile.
@@xerotolerantWell most people do mind. Subscriptions are the reason why most beginners can’t get into animation, because like all softwares that can do more than let you add frames simply cost too much. And that each month
@@taki7546 ok... I was expressing agreement with the OP. I too am happy that it is a one time purchase. Even though I don't mind subscriptions I'm not sure the point that you're making. "Beginners can't get into intimation because of subscriptions" is obviously nonsense. paper and pencil are the original tools and the continue to exist. Furthermore completely free software exists Further Further more, I grew up in the era of $1500 Adobe Photoshop licenses. $29/month is far more attainable If someone wants an excuse the can use "subscriptions" but blaming subscriptions for stopping beginners is total nonsense.
I think the reaction to the price makes a lot of sense, we've seen over the past 10 years how Procreate has grown and evolved and listened to it's users and this is clearly more complex in a lot of ways but I at least trust that the quality will be there. Hell if they had charged $20 for procreate out the gate it would still be worth it, far more than $30 a month for photoshop
I think compatibility will work the same way base procreate does, where it works on a wide range of iPads, but the limitations are scaled dependent on the specs of your device.
$10 is crazy cheap for Procreate. And $20 for Dreams is amazing, too. And, I'm going to be honest, Procreate is the only reason I've even kept my iPad. It's a system seller. I'm totally suprised Apple haven't bought out Savage, or offered to buy them. Apple do NOT want Procreate in the Android ecosystem.
On the one hand I like the idea of Apple buying Procreate so they can add it to MacBooks… on the other hand I don’t because I KNOW the price will skyrocket
I think the general thought about the price being cheap is because we know we’re getting a great app. We know what they offered us w/ procreate for 10$, and getting a whole animation app that seems better than procreate (for animation of course)for 20$ is mind blowing
I just bought toonsquid like 4 months ago and it’s a perfect dream animation for so damn long as a graphic animator and frame by frame animator. Not sure how procreate dream and beat this one, even tho toonsquid have been updating more and more recently and making lip syncing possible with a mouth track export. An era of animation app battle begins
I'm hearing people mention Toonsquid. I think whichever tools i choose, its effectiveness depends on how well I learn its features. Secondly, even then i also use other apps for abilities, I know it doesn't have. I wonder if there's any reason to consider Clip studio?
I think it depends on what kind of animation you use it for. If you’re into rigging or any form of puppetry, stick with ToonSquid for now. Personally, I’m only interested in traditional frame by frame animation I have always dreamed of learning how to reproduce the magic of those old Fleisher, Popeye and Betty Boop cartoons. Dreams is finally making my dream a reality, because of its phenomenal interface and futuristic approach. I’ve never experienced anything quite like it! Even with its current lack of basic features like lasso tools and merging layers, I’m still having more fun than I ever thought possible just discovering new workarounds! This is truly the paradigm shift I’ve been waiting for!! 💫
$20 is cheap, knowing how well procreate itself works. It never fails me, I was one of the first adopters, and paid €4-5. I was guessing it’d be around $40-50, to offset the fact they’re not a fan of subscription models. At $ 20, even people like myself who is not into animation, other than the occasional bouncy ball, it’s low enough to buy. I’m still PO’d at Adobe. I bought CS3 for a lot of money eons ago, but can’t use it anymore. And at € 25 / month, it’s extortionately expensive, for someone like me who uses it sparingly.
You've inspired me to keep my art channel/journey going man thank you for all these amazing videos, I really learnt alot in the beginning as I didn't know what the hell to even start with but watching your budget reviews? Those got me going haha, thank you!
Wow! Thanks so much for the shout out! As an old man with a masters in digital imaging and has been working on animated stuff for 30 years, seeing everything I want to do in animation on a $20 app is mind blowing! 🤯🤯🤯
The record feature will actually be insane for animation newbies too, just move to work out the timing from there. Maybe not the proper way to learn, but animation isn’t something I’m huge on and I can still see myself having fun with this. Definitely buying it to support them if nothing else.
If it has procreate drawing mechanics/brushes/feel/paint bucket/tools, frame by frame, and audio, that’s already sounding very good to me. The extra features seem interesting aswell. The draw off canvas frature could be extremely useful, I’ve personally never had an app that could do that. EDIT: I really hope it works with older iPads 😿😿😿
I doubt Procreate is going to keep this from us. I have a seventh generation iPad that I'm using Procreate on, and I imagine they would want to get it running on that as well. It's not very hard to do, in all honesty
Even though my IPad Air has an M1 chip. I’m still worried about other IPad models. But, if it’s going to work on other iPad models, it’ll be so intuitive! I know this new app is going to be amazing. This changes the animation game to a whole ‘nother level.
But Brad will MY iPad work for Procreate Dreams? (I dropped my iPad in a puddle of mud, then a puddle of puppies, and then it was framed for murder in 15 countries)
8:58 The ecosystem changed when everyone got tired from subscription models. I'll happily pay $20 - $50; even $100 if it means I own the thing Im sold. Its why I love the Affinity set of apps.
The point about previously seeing apps as low priced or free, that’s a good point because I definitely used to think I’d never pay for an app years ago but now things like Procreate, Nomad Sculpt, and of course Dreams just feels like paying for software on a computer - and being forced into subscription models is now so common that a one off fee, let alone $20, feels like nothing
I always looked for free apps as a kid/teenager because I wasn’t making my own money and was taught to be frugal. Now I have a job and can afford to splurge in the App Store a bit, so I have. $20 seems like a smaller amount now than it did to me as a kid and I do appreciate it being a one-time purchase.
Objectively speaking, ipads ARE computers... slimmed down ones if you may. We're not yet there to the point I can finally and officially replace my desktop computer with an iPad... but the gap gets shorter every time.
I love frame by frame, but I hope eventually they add a bone tool. There are just certain things, like lipsync especially I find easier to do with a puppet rig when I’m a one man studio
If I were you, I would stick with ToonSquid for now. It may be a while before Dreams get around to rigging, lip-synch, and everything that makes Animation easier. Personally, I’m not the least bit interested in any of that stuff. I’ve rolled up my sleeves and finally learning how to approach real old-fashioned frame by frame, traditional animation! And dreams makes it incredibly easy for me to upgrade my skills in that area. My dream is to re-create the magic of the old Fleisher Bros of the Betty Boop days. Dreams is making MY dream come true in the most phenomenal way! It’s truly breakthrough software that is currently shifting the paradigm of producing traditional animation, and I’m HERE for it!
This app certainly looks very promising! Procreate is already great on its own, so I have high hopes! My one wish I had for this was for it to have a feature that allows you to animate over a video or gif in a straightforward process. Like adding animated effects to a live action video, just as an example. And it seems like they have that, which is absolutely heaven for me personally.
I’ve not used toon squid and was wondering what features it includes that Dreams doesn’t appear to have? Like how do you see yourself using both apps rather than just one? Thanks in advance
@@davidashton7239 i can see myself using both apps but personal preference, i think i’ll mainly stick to toonsquid since i like the feel of it better ! the ui is clean and nothing is overly complex compared to looking at dreams (i can figure out dreams ui and all i just prefer clean and intuitive ui.) dreams has pretty much what toonsquid has, except toonsquid lacks animatable / keyframing filters or filters in general. toonsquid is pretty straightforward, and its only $10 (USD) one time purchase as well and its made by one dude. i love TS’s tweening system bc its so easy to understand, looking at dreams system for tweening looks very… something tbh. just doesnt feel as clean compared to TS is all ! dreams seems action packed with the features and preformamce which is great, and for $20 as well. i also don’t think dreams has vector brushes or maybe autofill stuffs ? toonsquid has that, though ! beware its a lil finnicky as the dev still needs to iron it out and all, but for what its worth, its def good :D
They can easily get $20 a month for the app… So excited they are keeping the philosophy of making software for the artist and not just for profit… As Adobe pushes more towards AI and professional exclusivity it is such a breathe of fresh to see promising alternatives both for professionals and independents… and as iPads are rumored to offer options to be the size of computer monitors by next year i can see a lot of independent creatives really diving deep into this app… Calling it an app almost seems criminal hahaha…
if they end up adding some kind of bones tool, and maybe some kind of either smart bones like in Moho, and/or a Joysticks and sliders type feature like the ae pluggin, this app would be absolutely killer
People complaining about £20 obviously have no idea what they are talking about or no experience of using pro level softwares. Be thankful that they are developers out there making these apps. If your like myself and have been around for years going from paper, to spending ££££ on a desktop, £££ on software, £££ on more hardware to now being able to sit on your sofa with an ipad and and draw, animate with software costing what, two people’s lunch from McDonald’s? its insane. Can’t wait to use it this.
Regarding price: In times when apps were more like toys and often weren't that good, $1 to $5 was okay. But with really good apps, $20 is reasonable (same as with the Affinity apps - really good bang for the buck). Unreasonable people are always around, they can be ignored.
It has frame by frame! Wow! Ok I wasn’t sure before if I was getting it but now without a DOUBT I’m getting it! I love animating in the traditional sense, but some situations require modern techniques
Even if this program runs on older iPads, I'm still going to go with something that has an M1 chip and decent memory. I always like to make sure that what I work with has enough power to get the job done. This app looks EXTREMELY good and the fact that it's running on an IPAD of all things just blows me away. I've been looking for a 2d animation app that has everything I need that isn't a subscription and I think this might be it.
Thanks for this update, Brad! Honestly super informative. I think as it is, it might already be poised to steamroll the storyboard and animatic use case. And never mind the "this doesn't do X, Y, Z that my favorite app does" argument. I expect a lot of new creators will immediately make new stuff, like the boom of newgrounds flash animations back in the day, or just dioramas and memes, just because this app is accessible and makes making silly little animation things of sufficient quality easier .
I really hope it works smoothly on a non-M1/M2 chip, apparently mine has an A12 or something like that and idk how willing I am to get a new ipad even if this one breaks Edit: I don't understand tech terms, but a LOT of the stats showing that an M1 chip has like double the efficiency so all I can do is pray 😭
I'm assuming it'll run on any iPad that supports Procreate. Mine has the A12 chip as well at only 32 gigs of storage yet Procreate still runs brilliantly on it because it's so well optimised. Hopefully that's the case with this too
a12 is the one right before the m1, right? there are relatively recent pro models with a12 chips i think, so... yeah, its pretty much guaranteed to be supported on a12 models. twice the efficiency doesnt mean much when the a12 is already very efficient
Procreate are usually pretty good at supporting older iPads. They were the last major app to stop support on the OG ipad. Which even apple only supported with just one OS update 😅 And I think right now procreate runs well on all devices that can run the latest iPad os. So I would imagine on launch it will be the same with dreams. You might have limitations such as not having the million pixel image or limit on animation length or layer count. But that exists on current procreate. So if you are comfortable with current procreate, I think dreams will run fine on your iPad. Also they don’t have a subscription model, so their incentive is to have this app run on as many iPads as possible.
@@nicodoe6181 yeah the 2018 has an A12X chip, and while yeah theyre both efficient, its more power restricted, being half as powerful as the M1, and probably 33-40% as powerful as the M2, and i imagine it being obliterated by the M3 iPad when that comes. i have the 2018 11" iPad Pro, and while it is still really good, it is showing its age with some stuttering or app crashes in procreate, or i cant play games as good as i used to
i'm so happy you made a more in death video about this. i just need to know if frame by frame support grouping. also, hi i been watching you for over 7 year its crazy to see how much technology changes
I want AUTO LIP SYNC, TURN AROUND CHARACTER like moho or toon boom, control Character by camera like adobe character but all these in one app on ipad to be able to work with Pen
Awesome video, Brad! Love your videos! Just a small correction, the animation on the witch is all preformed. The skirt, hair, hat broom is all Preform animated by doing several preforms with warp in Procreate Dreams. You can preform many times over the same Warp mesh to get really cool and organic results. The only frame by frame in this one is her eyelids when she is blinking. The seagulls wings and such are also preformed. Just so you know ;-)
Considering that many video apps charge $4.99 / mo for the full versions I was assuming this would be at least a $49 one time purchase. Honestly, even that would be cheap. But $20? That’s a steal!
Performance mode would be cool if it could be linked to the frames in a cycle. A good example might be the frames of a boxer punching allowing you to create hesitation or jabbing or someone trying to reach and grab a key or a cliff ledge.
Is it weird to say that I have at least 3 separate animation apps on my iPad alone, all of which do kind of the same type of animation, 2D, but all in different yet similar ways, but I still wanna buy Procreate Dreams to use alongside those apps?
Is this going to do everything procreate does and more? I don’t currently have procreate, and I’m wondering if I need to get it when procreate dreams is right around the corner.
Procreate was my whole reason to buy an ipad pro. I changed it and now i´m using Clip Studio (i know, subscription, but i love it so much). Of course i´ll buy Dreams and i´m so curious to see the difference with CSP in frame by frame animation. I wonder why did you say Dreams frame by frame animation is just "fine"?
I’m finding frame by frame in Dreams to be phenomenal!! To me, flip a clip feels like driving an economy car. Dreams feels like driving a futuristic flying Ferrari with a built-in time machine! 🤷🏾💫
I would love to get this for my ipad pro that's about 5 years old, so I hope that works. I really want to play more with animation. I use procreate almost every day and just love playing with it and improving my art journey, so I think this is great value. thank you for clearing things up and sharing more. cheers!
I hope that the paint bucket works using reference folders and not just layers like in Procreate, it makes me laugh that they can't implement something so simple and see Procreate speedpaints where people follow the outline of their drawing to fill it
Actually, if I understand what you mean, you CAN do that in procreate--just tap on the preview image of the layer you're on, and you'll get a handle on the left side that has a menu, "reference" being one of the options. You can then use paint fill on another layer and it will register the lines of your reference lineart. I hope that's helpful!
Is there a morphing action where you not only can place an shape in a different spot on the timeline to animate but also to morph into a different shape?
Yeah 20 bucks is definitely a good price for this. I mean there’s plenty of animation and pro level apps out there that aren’t only hundreds of dollars but they’re also a subscription so you never get to actually own it. So I’m always so happy when good apps like these come out and aren’t a subscription so you get to own it outright and never have to worry about losing it or not having the money to re-subscribe. Then that one time payment also being cheap as well, i’m all for it!! Great video Brad always love watching your videos and hearing your opinions. I also love your art style and your characters they’re so cool 😎
I guess the price thing is all about perspective. I'm a Nigerian who wants to get into digital art. 20 dollars for me isn't cheap at all. But then again, when you already have an iPad and apple pencil that costs hundreds of dollars, why can't you find 20 dollars extra. When I first saw procreate teasing an event, what I thought they wanted to do was announce some radical change to the procreate app and with that also change to a subscription model. I legit was panicking and was scrambling to find a way to buy the Procreate app before they announce the changes, in the hope that they won't make existing customers start paying monthly just yet. Even now that they have announced Procreate Dreams for 20 dollars, I still don't trust that they'll keep it at that price for much longer (because honestly I do not understand how they can make money off of just one 20 dollar purchase per person) and so I'm still trying to find a way to buy both apps as soon as possible so when they inevitably turn it into a subscription model, I can hope to get some benefits for being an existing customer or something. That's just my perspective on it though. (Lol just realised a good comparison. I'm a uni student. 30 dollars right now is enough to pay for like half of my school fees for the last school year, before the school's massive price jumps.)
Can we export an animation with transparent background so I can import that to CapCut to do something else? Sorry if my question is silly but I am new to video editing.
Can you select multiple frames at once? To then duplicate, delete, create loops, etc. The only animation app I can do this in is Flip-A-Clip...it's not a deal-breaker by any means, as I'm excited for PD, but am just curious. Thanks!
Yes, it can do all of that in animation mode. But in drawing mode, it still lacks a lasso tool and the ability to merge layers. I know that they’re working on that update, but it’s extremely frustrating without it.
3:49 this is like my wildest dream come true, I only know so little about different animations type, how its made, what software to use and etc Bur procreate dream just solved it all for me lol
Since there are also professional apps for 3d sculpting and modelling such as nomad sculpt and forger, I was wondering if they are planing to add features for 3d animation to bring your 3d sculpted stuff to live?
I'm curious, are the onion skin features more advanced than in Procreate, or are they the same? By 'more advanced,' I mean the ability to select which previous/next frames you'd like to see and to have out-of-pegs/shift and trace capabilities. (It's the ability to move the onion skin images closer together and scale/rotate them. This feature is really helpful for inbetweening.)
I’m not sure if they’re working on Ifft and trace, but I was hoping for the same thing. I recently found a workaround though. it requires a few extra steps, but I’m still thrilled about every moment that I spend in this app!
It's cool, could You tell me how much space a project may take on procreate dreams? Like maybe a 5 minute animation. Im getting a new ipad air, and i want to see how much storage i may need to create with dreams.
I have a few BIG questions. Will dreams have Rigging or automatic lip sync features? These features would potentially be disruptive to the industry. I was also thinking... the low price... is it because additional features will be sold as some kind of add-ons? Good work on your videos.
I do have a question are there any ways how to import brushes from Procreate to Procreate Dreams or do they let you make your own brushes on Procreate Dreams?
Cannot wait for this, this is the first time in years I've been excited for a new app. My only concern is my ipad is a 6th gen so I'm not sure how well procreate dreams will perform.
does dream have clipping mask or mask, blend mode and all the other stuff? some animation app doesn't have those but i think that's going to be game changer if they do have those.
Honestly, I could see them using best application for 3D animation with nomad sculpt if that add bones and physics to there app this can basically be the next source filmmaker
I want a puppetry and bone rigg. Hoping it will have and im not into repeating drawing type. Im the rigg , stretch bounce animator . And hope my 64 Gb 2021 ipad of mine get this.
As an android user (tab s6) who recently got to try ipad (air 4th) with procreate, I'm kind of jealous of people who have one, and I most certainly will go for Ipad next now that I'm more into art. Not only is procreate my favorite app so far, but it's also a huge selling point that it's a one time purchase, since the world now revolves software as a service / subscriptions.
This answered most of the questions I've been searching for since this app's announcement. Thank you. I was worried if my 1st gen iPad Pro was going to be able to run this with only 8 GB of RAM
Only the M1 iPads have 8gb of ram. Is that the one you have? The A chip ones are mostly 4gb. With the exception of the 1tb models and the A12XZ models that have 6.
at this point Apple should cut that 30% commission for procreate. They are single handedly raising ipad sales 😅
fortnite tried that same thing and hasnt been on the app store in over 3 years because of it 🤐
@@THEcoolGAMER60Fortnite doesn't increase iPad sales
@@THEcoolGAMER60 its because fortnite tried to be cheeky to skirt that fee with in game payment system, I am saying apple to recognize procreates for their help on sales and reduce their 30% from their side.
@@LinLinvyexactly... I literally brought my Ipad for art and I would see all these procreate videos on TH-cam. My favorite app
When I was debating between upgrading my iPad in 2019, or getting a Wacom Cintiq, I made the decision for my iPad Pro. I already had procreate on my previous iPad, so I didn’t need to buy it again. With Cintiq, I probably had to upgrade my computer at some point.
The iPad Pro I got in 2019, I still use every single day and it runs like a dream, added bonus that I didn’t need an overpriced Adobe subscription to actually draw.
Can’t wait to see the day when someone makes an animated movie on this thing.
Yeah - DISNEY ANIMATION COMING back- style!!
That day will be soon because I will be doing an anime series
I'm currently working on a short film. I've been using a combination of procreate and capcut:) stay tuned for my stuff
It will be an ultra small project. One thing iPads aren’t designed for is server integration. So sharing files across people will be a pain, and also if you work in a big studio they are crazy secure with their files, and all these security programs in your PC at work just don’t exist on iPad.
You will see small projects, commercials, video clips shorts. Segments in films and tv shows use it. Tiktok and TH-cam projects.
A full production pipeline on iPad won’t happen. Studios would love that, because cintiq’s, computers are expensive, but the logistics mentioned before means we are far away from that.
@@Ezra_lovesslove the stick fig animations 🔥 where i started
I’m psyched that we’re getting software that can produce old school classic Disney quality to modern quality animations, that’s incredible power for a one time payment of 20$
Exactly!!
It’s not just about the software, it’s about the person who uses the software. Heck, Aaron Blaise probably could have made the same film in Callipeg or ToonSquid. The most important thing when producing old school Disney animation is knowing all the tips and tricks found in animation books, knowing how to use reference the right way, and mastering the charts.
@@dillonwright13 I think the point OP is trying to make is that producing an entire animation before was simply not feasible for $20, and even the top apps in the industry that cost much more suffer from problems; Adobe Animate is a nightmare to work with as anyone who's used it can testify, Toon Boom Harmony is a spaceship and extremely hard to understand and use without straight up studying it, and Clip Studio has a subpar player, doesn't even have audio scrubbing, and I have no clue how it would handle long animations. Procreate Dreams is claiming to have fixed all those issues while ALSO being orders of magnitude cheaper AND being able to achieve the highest degree of results.
I'm hoping for a Disney Animation comeback, though! Blaise DID a GREAT WORK here, of course..
I once did an animationmovie in filmschool ( in ANIMO, back then) Funnily about a bird that tries to fly, also falls on a branch, and also get's catapulted into air to discover "his REAL FLYING abilities, after all, called ICARUS.. This TRIGGERED me , personally, seeing this ( in a GOOD WAY! Thanks Aaron Blaise !!) Really!! But all his personal craft, mastery and wizardry beside, this is STILL ASTONISHING, that apperantly you could do the exact LOOK and FEEL, INSIDE THIS new standalone-software..(with the right knowlege of course), for just a ONE TIME PAYMENT!! The drawings were DRAWN INSIDE the software, that means the brushes, onion skinning , flipbook-thing is WORKING and you can also work with SOUND inside, do a avoice-over directly in PCD, editing, colouring, you NAME it !! Gives me HOPE! GOOD JOB !! Need to TRY THIS OUT in the future, maybe only for Storyboarding /animatics I'm pretty rusty in animation, nowadays 😀!@@dillonwright13
@@dillonwright13bu...bu... but there's an appel logo tho... 🥴🥴🥴
Tiny correction: The only parts that were animated frame by frame in the Witch piece were the eye blinks and the beaks of the seagulls.
Everything else was warp/position/scale/rotation/ performed. Her purse is animated via rotation perform, her skirt/hat/hair is multiple passes of warp perform (you can just keep recording over each perform warp pass and it just adds deformations on top. super powerful), the broom wiggle was warp performed on two separate layers, the seagull wings were y-scale performed etc. I could have done all of it frame by frame too, but warp perform is much faster and non-destructive.
Good to know. Also the non destructive part is still blowing my mind.
Wow!! Echt GUTE Arbeit -Goro!!! ☺👋🏻👋🏻
Excellent. Hope you are planning a workflow video
Is it basically just the warp from og procreate or are there other warping options?
similar to OG but with more control@@christianr.5868
I am so incredibly happy this is not a subscription! Instant purchase for me and for my kids.
Agree, instant purchase as well. Wish Brad would stop giving Clip Studio and other subscription-only apps a pass. Never ending subscriptions are user-hostile.
I don’t even mind subscriptions. But one time purchases are more automatic for me
@@xerotolerantWell most people do mind. Subscriptions are the reason why most beginners can’t get into animation, because like all softwares that can do more than let you add frames simply cost too much. And that each month
@@taki7546 ok... I was expressing agreement with the OP. I too am happy that it is a one time purchase. Even though I don't mind subscriptions
I'm not sure the point that you're making.
"Beginners can't get into intimation because of subscriptions" is obviously nonsense.
paper and pencil are the original tools and the continue to exist.
Furthermore completely free software exists
Further Further more, I grew up in the era of $1500 Adobe Photoshop licenses. $29/month is far more attainable
If someone wants an excuse the can use "subscriptions" but blaming subscriptions for stopping beginners is total nonsense.
I think the reaction to the price makes a lot of sense, we've seen over the past 10 years how Procreate has grown and evolved and listened to it's users and this is clearly more complex in a lot of ways but I at least trust that the quality will be there. Hell if they had charged $20 for procreate out the gate it would still be worth it, far more than $30 a month for photoshop
💯 I was gobsmacked by the teeny price tag. Adobe deserves to die.
I think compatibility will work the same way base procreate does, where it works on a wide range of iPads, but the limitations are scaled dependent on the specs of your device.
Yeah, I think you’re right
Glad if it is
I absolutely can not wait for this app to come out. I’m a recent animation student and I look forward to using this for fun and practice!
$10 is crazy cheap for Procreate.
And $20 for Dreams is amazing, too.
And, I'm going to be honest, Procreate is the only reason I've even kept my iPad. It's a system seller.
I'm totally suprised Apple haven't bought out Savage, or offered to buy them. Apple do NOT want Procreate in the Android ecosystem.
On the one hand I like the idea of Apple buying Procreate so they can add it to MacBooks… on the other hand I don’t because I KNOW the price will skyrocket
@@mad_hattyeah as soon as they buy it the corporate greed instinct will kick in immediately
A large company buying out a decent smaller company is almost always a bad thing for us consumers.
@@BrianLockett Yeah, I'm not suggesting it would be a great idea for consumers.
But it would be very Apple.
@channelofstuff6662 exactly! Subscriptions to software is such a scam. Maybe I should lean towards hoping they don’t buy procreate
I think the general thought about the price being cheap is because we know we’re getting a great app. We know what they offered us w/ procreate for 10$, and getting a whole animation app that seems better than procreate (for animation of course)for 20$ is mind blowing
I just bought toonsquid like 4 months ago and it’s a perfect dream animation for so damn long as a graphic animator and frame by frame animator.
Not sure how procreate dream and beat this one, even tho toonsquid have been updating more and more recently and making lip syncing possible with a mouth track export.
An era of animation app battle begins
I'm hearing people mention Toonsquid. I think whichever tools i choose, its effectiveness depends on how well I learn its features. Secondly, even then i also use other apps for abilities, I know it doesn't have.
I wonder if there's any reason to consider Clip studio?
I think it depends on what kind of animation you use it for. If you’re into rigging or any form of puppetry, stick with ToonSquid for now.
Personally, I’m only interested in traditional frame by frame animation
I have always dreamed of learning how to reproduce the magic of those old Fleisher, Popeye and Betty Boop cartoons.
Dreams is finally making my dream a reality, because of its phenomenal interface and futuristic approach. I’ve never experienced anything quite like it!
Even with its current lack of basic features like lasso tools and merging layers, I’m still having more fun than I ever thought possible just discovering new workarounds!
This is truly the paradigm shift I’ve been waiting for!! 💫
$20 is cheap, knowing how well procreate itself works. It never fails me, I was one of the first adopters, and paid €4-5.
I was guessing it’d be around $40-50, to offset the fact they’re not a fan of subscription models. At $ 20, even people like myself who is not into animation, other than the occasional bouncy ball, it’s low enough to buy.
I’m still PO’d at Adobe. I bought CS3 for a lot of money eons ago, but can’t use it anymore. And at € 25 / month, it’s extortionately expensive, for someone like me who uses it sparingly.
You've inspired me to keep my art channel/journey going man thank you for all these amazing videos, I really learnt alot in the beginning as I didn't know what the hell to even start with but watching your budget reviews? Those got me going haha, thank you!
Wow! Thanks so much for the shout out! As an old man with a masters in digital imaging and has been working on animated stuff for 30 years, seeing everything I want to do in animation on a $20 app is mind blowing! 🤯🤯🤯
You consistently offer such fun and useful reviews and tutorials! Thank you so much for all you do!
Whoa! Huge thanks for the tip man! I really appreciate that and the kind words!
The record feature will actually be insane for animation newbies too, just move to work out the timing from there. Maybe not the proper way to learn, but animation isn’t something I’m huge on and I can still see myself having fun with this. Definitely buying it to support them if nothing else.
If it has procreate drawing mechanics/brushes/feel/paint bucket/tools, frame by frame, and audio, that’s already sounding very good to me. The extra features seem interesting aswell. The draw off canvas frature could be extremely useful, I’ve personally never had an app that could do that.
EDIT: I really hope it works with older iPads 😿😿😿
I doubt Procreate is going to keep this from us. I have a seventh generation iPad that I'm using Procreate on, and I imagine they would want to get it running on that as well. It's not very hard to do, in all honesty
Yes i have an ipad 9 so i really hope they make it compatible with it 😢
someone gonna make a whole tv show with this.
my biggest question is how much storage space are these files gonna eat up on my ipad?
I'm pretty sure it's saving to the cloud
Even though my IPad Air has an M1 chip. I’m still worried about other IPad models. But, if it’s going to work on other iPad models, it’ll be so intuitive! I know this new app is going to be amazing. This changes the animation game to a whole ‘nother level.
But Brad will MY iPad work for Procreate Dreams? (I dropped my iPad in a puddle of mud, then a puddle of puppies, and then it was framed for murder in 15 countries)
As long as it has enough ram
For mud and murder? No problem. But, puppy proof? Definitely not, plus voided warranty. Sorry bud.
8:58 The ecosystem changed when everyone got tired from subscription models. I'll happily pay $20 - $50; even $100 if it means I own the thing Im sold. Its why I love the Affinity set of apps.
The point about previously seeing apps as low priced or free, that’s a good point because I definitely used to think I’d never pay for an app years ago but now things like Procreate, Nomad Sculpt, and of course Dreams just feels like paying for software on a computer - and being forced into subscription models is now so common that a one off fee, let alone $20, feels like nothing
I always looked for free apps as a kid/teenager because I wasn’t making my own money and was taught to be frugal. Now I have a job and can afford to splurge in the App Store a bit, so I have. $20 seems like a smaller amount now than it did to me as a kid and I do appreciate it being a one-time purchase.
Objectively speaking, ipads ARE computers... slimmed down ones if you may. We're not yet there to the point I can finally and officially replace my desktop computer with an iPad... but the gap gets shorter every time.
I love frame by frame, but I hope eventually they add a bone tool. There are just certain things, like lipsync especially I find easier to do with a puppet rig when I’m a one man studio
I wonder if they’ll have a similar symbol workflow to ToonSquid for lipsync. But I agree, would love bones and mesh deformation
If I were you, I would stick with ToonSquid for now. It may be a while before Dreams get around to rigging, lip-synch, and everything that makes Animation easier.
Personally, I’m not the least bit interested in any of that stuff. I’ve rolled up my sleeves and finally learning how to approach real old-fashioned frame by frame, traditional animation! And dreams makes it incredibly easy for me to upgrade my skills in that area.
My dream is to re-create the magic of the old Fleisher Bros of the Betty Boop days.
Dreams is making MY dream come true in the most phenomenal way! It’s truly breakthrough software that is currently shifting the paradigm of producing traditional animation, and I’m HERE for it!
This app certainly looks very promising! Procreate is already great on its own, so I have high hopes!
My one wish I had for this was for it to have a feature that allows you to animate over a video or gif in a straightforward process. Like adding animated effects to a live action video, just as an example. And it seems like they have that, which is absolutely heaven for me personally.
I’m genuinely thinking about starting an animation channel as soon as this comes out! It’s such a powerful tool!
Can we link up man..?
I also want to start that
Maybe we can work together… although I started using procreate to do logo animations 😂🎉❤
Excited to use both ToonSquid and Procreate Dreams in tandem XD
SAME LMAO
I’ve not used toon squid and was wondering what features it includes that Dreams doesn’t appear to have? Like how do you see yourself using both apps rather than just one? Thanks in advance
@@davidashton7239 i can see myself using both apps but personal preference, i think i’ll mainly stick to toonsquid since i like the feel of it better ! the ui is clean and nothing is overly complex compared to looking at dreams (i can figure out dreams ui and all i just prefer clean and intuitive ui.) dreams has pretty much what toonsquid has, except toonsquid lacks animatable / keyframing filters or filters in general.
toonsquid is pretty straightforward, and its only $10 (USD) one time purchase as well and its made by one dude. i love TS’s tweening system bc its so easy to understand, looking at dreams system for tweening looks very… something tbh. just doesnt feel as clean compared to TS is all !
dreams seems action packed with the features and preformamce which is great, and for $20 as well.
i also don’t think dreams has vector brushes or maybe autofill stuffs ? toonsquid has that, though ! beware its a lil finnicky as the dev still needs to iron it out and all, but for what its worth, its def good :D
@@davidashton7239Toonsquid has vector brushes. It’s like Adobe animate but for the ipad
Good on ya Brad, I feel like it's quite rare to find youtubers that actually read comments and interact with their community
I learn A TON from the comments, it’s like my secret weapon 😂
They can easily get $20 a month for the app… So excited they are keeping the philosophy of making software for the artist and not just for profit… As Adobe pushes more towards AI and professional exclusivity it is such a breathe of fresh to see promising alternatives both for professionals and independents… and as iPads are rumored to offer options to be the size of computer monitors by next year i can see a lot of independent creatives really diving deep into this app… Calling it an app almost seems criminal hahaha…
if they end up adding some kind of bones tool, and maybe some kind of either smart bones like in Moho, and/or a Joysticks and sliders type feature like the ae pluggin, this app would be absolutely killer
People complaining about £20 obviously have no idea what they are talking about or no experience of using pro level softwares. Be thankful that they are developers out there making these apps. If your like myself and have been around for years going from paper, to spending ££££ on a desktop, £££ on software, £££ on more hardware to now being able to sit on your sofa with an ipad and and draw, animate with software costing what, two people’s lunch from McDonald’s? its insane. Can’t wait to use it this.
20 bucks flat for an animation app is a steal!
Regarding price: In times when apps were more like toys and often weren't that good, $1 to $5 was okay. But with really good apps, $20 is reasonable (same as with the Affinity apps - really good bang for the buck). Unreasonable people are always around, they can be ignored.
Thanks for the frame by frame confirmation! liked your first video but I was wondering
It has frame by frame! Wow! Ok I wasn’t sure before if I was getting it but now without a DOUBT I’m getting it! I love animating in the traditional sense, but some situations require modern techniques
Even if this program runs on older iPads, I'm still going to go with something that has an M1 chip and decent memory. I always like to make sure that what I work with has enough power to get the job done. This app looks EXTREMELY good and the fact that it's running on an IPAD of all things just blows me away. I've been looking for a 2d animation app that has everything I need that isn't a subscription and I think this might be it.
Thanks for this update, Brad! Honestly super informative.
I think as it is, it might already be poised to steamroll the storyboard and animatic use case.
And never mind the "this doesn't do X, Y, Z that my favorite app does" argument. I expect a lot of new creators will immediately make new stuff, like the boom of newgrounds flash animations back in the day, or just dioramas and memes, just because this app is accessible and makes making silly little animation things of sufficient quality easier .
I really hope it works smoothly on a non-M1/M2 chip, apparently mine has an A12 or something like that and idk how willing I am to get a new ipad even if this one breaks
Edit: I don't understand tech terms, but a LOT of the stats showing that an M1 chip has like double the efficiency so all I can do is pray 😭
I'm assuming it'll run on any iPad that supports Procreate. Mine has the A12 chip as well at only 32 gigs of storage yet Procreate still runs brilliantly on it because it's so well optimised. Hopefully that's the case with this too
a12 is the one right before the m1, right? there are relatively recent pro models with a12 chips i think, so... yeah, its pretty much guaranteed to be supported on a12 models. twice the efficiency doesnt mean much when the a12 is already very efficient
Procreate are usually pretty good at supporting older iPads. They were the last major app to stop support on the OG ipad. Which even apple only supported with just one OS update 😅
And I think right now procreate runs well on all devices that can run the latest iPad os. So I would imagine on launch it will be the same with dreams. You might have limitations such as not having the million pixel image or limit on animation length or layer count. But that exists on current procreate. So if you are comfortable with current procreate, I think dreams will run fine on your iPad.
Also they don’t have a subscription model, so their incentive is to have this app run on as many iPads as possible.
Efficiency usually means power consumption for the same task.
@@nicodoe6181 yeah the 2018 has an A12X chip, and while yeah theyre both efficient, its more power restricted, being half as powerful as the M1, and probably 33-40% as powerful as the M2, and i imagine it being obliterated by the M3 iPad when that comes.
i have the 2018 11" iPad Pro, and while it is still really good, it is showing its age with some stuttering or app crashes in procreate, or i cant play games as good as i used to
i'm so happy you made a more in death video about this. i just need to know if frame by frame support grouping. also, hi i been watching you for over 7 year its crazy to see how much technology changes
“In death” just a typo but it got me to laugh
I want AUTO LIP SYNC, TURN AROUND CHARACTER like moho or toon boom, control Character by camera like adobe character but all these in one app on ipad to be able to work with Pen
Awesome video, Brad! Love your videos! Just a small correction, the animation on the witch is all preformed. The skirt, hair, hat broom is all Preform animated by doing several preforms with warp in Procreate Dreams. You can preform many times over the same Warp mesh to get really cool and organic results. The only frame by frame in this one is her eyelids when she is blinking. The seagulls wings and such are also preformed. Just so you know ;-)
thank you for the frame by frame tip at 1:49. I just got the beta release and I could not find the option anywhere!!
I’m super psyched for the record feature!!
Wow! I didn’t know the short was Aaron… just love his work.
Thanks Brad for the clarity.
Considering that many video apps charge $4.99 / mo for the full versions I was assuming this would be at least a $49 one time purchase. Honestly, even that would be cheap. But $20? That’s a steal!
I hope there can be many (10+) layers for the frame by frame aspect, so I can do a sketch animation and do clean-up on top of that.
Performance mode would be cool if it could be linked to the frames in a cycle. A good example might be the frames of a boxer punching allowing you to create hesitation or jabbing or someone trying to reach and grab a key or a cliff ledge.
Thanks for all the insight on this. SO looking forward to this dropping!
Procreate deserves my money for doing this. I’m so excited to try this app!
I'm so looking forward to it!
Great review Brad. I am going to check out your courses thanks for the work you do
Is it weird to say that I have at least 3 separate animation apps on my iPad alone, all of which do kind of the same type of animation, 2D, but all in different yet similar ways, but I still wanna buy Procreate Dreams to use alongside those apps?
THIS IS LOOKING REALY COOL, CANT WAIT
I'm lucky I got latest iPad air so I'm good there! Hype to use it!
Does it have rigging option? cause i want to animate still images😮
Is this going to do everything procreate does and more? I don’t currently have procreate, and I’m wondering if I need to get it when procreate dreams is right around the corner.
Procreate was my whole reason to buy an ipad pro. I changed it and now i´m using Clip Studio (i know, subscription, but i love it so much). Of course i´ll buy Dreams and i´m so curious to see the difference with CSP in frame by frame animation. I wonder why did you say Dreams frame by frame animation is just "fine"?
I’m finding frame by frame in Dreams to be phenomenal!!
To me, flip a clip feels like driving an economy car. Dreams feels like driving a futuristic flying Ferrari with a built-in time machine! 🤷🏾💫
I would love to get this for my ipad pro that's about 5 years old, so I hope that works. I really want to play more with animation. I use procreate almost every day and just love playing with it and improving my art journey, so I think this is great value. thank you for clearing things up and sharing more. cheers!
If your iPads not supported, ToonSquid would be a good alternative
I'm so excited
I hope that the paint bucket works using reference folders and not just layers like in Procreate, it makes me laugh that they can't implement something so simple and see Procreate speedpaints where people follow the outline of their drawing to fill it
Actually, if I understand what you mean, you CAN do that in procreate--just tap on the preview image of the layer you're on, and you'll get a handle on the left side that has a menu, "reference" being one of the options. You can then use paint fill on another layer and it will register the lines of your reference lineart. I hope that's helpful!
@@aoterou Ah, gotcha! In that case, I agree. It’s silly that Procreate hasn’t made that feature yet.
Please do a video on toonsquid vs procreate dreams! I’m defo gonna get PD but deciding whether to get TS as well
Is there a morphing action where you not only can place an shape in a different spot on the timeline to animate but also to morph into a different shape?
waiting for this
I have an 8th gen iPad, so I sure hope I can use this program.
Will buy it because it's not a subscription, hope they will add rigging tools in future.
Yeah 20 bucks is definitely a good price for this. I mean there’s plenty of animation and pro level apps out there that aren’t only hundreds of dollars but they’re also a subscription so you never get to actually own it. So I’m always so happy when good apps like these come out and aren’t a subscription so you get to own it outright and never have to worry about losing it or not having the money to re-subscribe. Then that one time payment also being cheap as well, i’m all for it!! Great video Brad always love watching your videos and hearing your opinions. I also love your art style and your characters they’re so cool 😎
Thank you for the update. Worth every penny👍
I guess the price thing is all about perspective. I'm a Nigerian who wants to get into digital art. 20 dollars for me isn't cheap at all. But then again, when you already have an iPad and apple pencil that costs hundreds of dollars, why can't you find 20 dollars extra.
When I first saw procreate teasing an event, what I thought they wanted to do was announce some radical change to the procreate app and with that also change to a subscription model.
I legit was panicking and was scrambling to find a way to buy the Procreate app before they announce the changes, in the hope that they won't make existing customers start paying monthly just yet.
Even now that they have announced Procreate Dreams for 20 dollars, I still don't trust that they'll keep it at that price for much longer (because honestly I do not understand how they can make money off of just one 20 dollar purchase per person) and so I'm still trying to find a way to buy both apps as soon as possible so when they inevitably turn it into a subscription model, I can hope to get some benefits for being an existing customer or something.
That's just my perspective on it though. (Lol just realised a good comparison. I'm a uni student. 30 dollars right now is enough to pay for like half of my school fees for the last school year, before the school's massive price jumps.)
Can we export an animation with transparent background so I can import that to CapCut to do something else? Sorry if my question is silly but I am new to video editing.
Can you select multiple frames at once? To then duplicate, delete, create loops, etc. The only animation app I can do this in is Flip-A-Clip...it's not a deal-breaker by any means, as I'm excited for PD, but am just curious. Thanks!
Yes, it can do all of that in animation mode. But in drawing mode, it still lacks a lasso tool and the ability to merge layers. I know that they’re working on that update, but it’s extremely frustrating without it.
I want it SO badly. 😭 Can't wait for it to come out.
ToonSquid vs this?
8:57 It is considered cheap because all other animation software have a subscription and not a one-time purchase
3:49 this is like my wildest dream come true, I only know so little about different animations type, how its made, what software to use and etc
Bur procreate dream just solved it all for me lol
Such a great company and tool for artists.
What about animating ‘pose to pose’ / on two’s / inbetweens?
Since there are also professional apps for 3d sculpting and modelling such as nomad sculpt and forger, I was wondering if they are planing to add features for 3d animation to bring your 3d sculpted stuff to live?
I'm curious, are the onion skin features more advanced than in Procreate, or are they the same?
By 'more advanced,' I mean the ability to select which previous/next frames you'd like to see and to have out-of-pegs/shift and trace capabilities. (It's the ability to move the onion skin images closer together and scale/rotate them. This feature is really helpful for inbetweening.)
I’m not sure if they’re working on Ifft and trace, but I was hoping for the same thing. I recently found a workaround though. it requires a few extra steps, but I’m still thrilled about every moment that I spend in this app!
Thank you, Brad for this exciting coverage of Procreate Dreams.
Forgot to link the short in the description 😊 Thanks for this informative video!
It's cool, could You tell me how much space a project may take on procreate dreams? Like maybe a 5 minute animation.
Im getting a new ipad air, and i want to see how much storage i may need to create with dreams.
I have a few BIG questions. Will dreams have Rigging or automatic lip sync features? These features would potentially be disruptive to the industry. I was also thinking... the low price... is it because additional features will be sold as some kind of add-ons? Good work on your videos.
I do have a question are there any ways how to import brushes from Procreate to Procreate Dreams or do they let you make your own brushes on Procreate Dreams?
Cannot wait for this, this is the first time in years I've been excited for a new app. My only concern is my ipad is a 6th gen so I'm not sure how well procreate dreams will perform.
does dream have clipping mask or mask, blend mode and all the other stuff? some animation app doesn't have those but i think that's going to be game changer if they do have those.
Thank you, this was great and answered a bunch of questions I was wondering about
Can you show what's in the Composite tab and how we can do post production in animations?
Honestly, I could see them using best application for 3D animation with nomad sculpt if that add bones and physics to there app this can basically be the next source filmmaker
I want a puppetry and bone rigg. Hoping it will have and im not into repeating drawing type. Im the rigg , stretch bounce animator . And hope my 64 Gb 2021 ipad of mine get this.
I have the ipad 6th generation and it's running great, so don't worry if you've got an older model.
As an android user (tab s6) who recently got to try ipad (air 4th) with procreate, I'm kind of jealous of people who have one, and I most certainly will go for Ipad next now that I'm more into art. Not only is procreate my favorite app so far, but it's also a huge selling point that it's a one time purchase, since the world now revolves software as a service / subscriptions.
So so so so excited for this. I would assume this, but hopefully its very easy to put my procreate animations onto procreate dream.
This answered most of the questions I've been searching for since this app's announcement. Thank you. I was worried if my 1st gen iPad Pro was going to be able to run this with only 8 GB of RAM
Only the M1 iPads have 8gb of ram. Is that the one you have? The A chip ones are mostly 4gb. With the exception of the 1tb models and the A12XZ models that have 6.
I hope being able to use 3D models for things like back grounds or objects that a character holds
can we use procreate dreams for sketch and painting also, or we need to purchase both?
Looks wonderful but when are they going to add “stroke” to procreate?
Thank you for the insight!
This is exciting af
3:35 can you record your voice while you're doing that?