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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2021
- Even the world’s greatest racing circuits have dud corners. Seriously. Just have a think for a few minutes about your favourite venues. There’s always one turn that grinds your gears.
That’s what we are covering here. Not the worst tracks in the world, but the worst corners and often, an element can stick out like a sore thumb should the rest of the experience be so satisfying.
This video features some of the all-time greatest venues, and Paul Ricard, so watch to see which corners irked our racers the most.
But, woah woah, hold your horses. Before you set your keyboard on fire with rage, this is only the opinion of some of the Traxion team. You know you may have a difference of opinion. But that’s okay. Let us know in the comments below your least favourite curve in curve racing and it could make it into a follow-up video soon.
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This video was created before the announcement about the changes to Yas Marina Circuit
Alright but I think your idea was better.
and the one to spain
Forest elbow is one of the best corners on Bathurst....
another jcs fan sim racer, you know what's up my friend
You're damn right, but I think this video was based on ridiculously hard or boring corners, and these sequence of corners are HARD. Agreed though
Forest Elbow requires perfection on brakeing, turning point and transition to power, but get it right and you can swallow up those in front that don't get it right down Conrod. Don't think it should be on this list. Sorry
Agreed
I love how he says it's of camber, if you go there the inside is very on camper
I don't think these are the worst corners, just the most challenging and unsatisfying.
Yeah most of this video boils down to "we don't like these corners because they aren't easy"
Im sorry i maybe get it wrong but i really feel like this vids was "its hard to take so we hate it" i only agree to spain and yas marina
Got to agree, I refuse to race Barcelona unless I have no choice because of that Chicane
@@davesiddons8921 i like the chicane lmao
@@harrycop7944 There's a reason why they removed it for this years F1 season. Pretty much all of the drivers hated it
@@hails2991 ah ok
At COTA, I actually find turns 8 and 9 to be quite satisfying to hit right, and it's not as though you need to worry too much about the fact that you have to go single file through there because two prime passing apexes are coming up quick. So in my mind, that spot in hell is definitely reserved for 13 and 14.
I like the challenge of turn 8 and 9. This list is terrible as they are hating on corners just because they are hard.
3:15 don’t you remember hamilton v vettel in 2019? Also plenty of lower categories overtake here, it’s one of the only esses sections you can pass on
Forest elbow is amazing. Love from every Australian
the foreboding of both the Monza t1 crash and Yes marina being a boring finale in 2021 are striking
Boring finale?
i don't think he likes technical corners. that turn just before stadium section at COTA is one of my favorites
You can not tell me that village and the loop and Kotas turns are in the same level as the Barca chicane
The only one I really disagree with is Forest Elbow. Yes it’s challenging to get it right but when you did, that long blast down Conrod is beyond satisfying
Village and The Loop at Silverstone were designed with motorcycle racing in mind. It's a superb section on bikes following Farm Curve, but for long and wide under-steering F1 cars, not so much.
What about Monaco T6? Or Shanghai T1? I mean I just think it's hideous that you even put forest elbow in the list, let alone on top of it in comparison to these two horrible corners.
Is turn 6 the hairpin? Also I think I would add sochi final two turns and the new Singapore sling, such a boring corner compared to what it was
as a rally fan i love mount panorama in every way, the trick in the tight part is to take it as an rally, awd car oversteer into the hairpin and never go at your limit, in most tracks you can and must go at the limit, in mount panorama and a rally stage that means either hundreds of attempts or rage quit
Forest Elbow is brilliant. The entire track is. It's a challenging track, but very well laid out. I personally suck at the entire mountain section and Forest Elbow, but I still love it regardless.
Nailing the entire mountain section, seeing that green relative timer with the corner of your eye, only to drift wide through Forest Elbow and lose it all down Conrod must be one of the worst feelings in sim racing😂
@@TraxionGG Oh it sucks to get it wrong, but that's the love of the challenge to me. When you get it right it's even more satisfying.
I think the third sector of Paul Ricard is overhated, I think that it is actually very good, maybe it is hard to do but that’s what I like because it is challenging, also I don’t think it’s offcamber, I think it just feels that way because it goes down hill a little bit, and also Paul ricard is not totally flat
You'll have to remind me which bit is section 3. Every corner is identical
I think Paul Ricard is actually a really nice circuit to drive, but isn’t one of the best for racing.
@@BongoBaggins sector 3 is the fast flowing section from the end of the back straight back to the start/finish line.
Forest elbow is incredible, only a fool would think otherwise.
Great video 😊. Might not agree on them all, but points well made! Good food for though, even Abu Dhabi clearly thought so 😂
Well made video, but these are not bad corners.
alternate title: I can't drive these corners
Expected to find the final chicane of Catalunya, was not disappointed.
Im surprised with the fact THAT corner in Laguna Seca isnt in the list
Thanks god now in 2023 the final chicane at Barcelona has been deleted
I'm with most of the other comments here. These are basically "Heaven & Hell" corners. It's all about how you're able to take them. And the margins are so razor thin it changes by the lap. I mean, unless you're an alien I suppose, but that's the way they are for a guy like me!
The COTA corners are just hard to master not necessarily bad corners
Bathurst as a Track is great and so is Forest Elbow and apart from the old yas marina and barcelona layout all the other coreners are fine, just tricky. I think you just have a MASSIVE skill issue in all those corners and thats why you hate on them.
So glad the chicane at Barcelona has been removed, that section didn't need a clunky chicane in the first place
I feel bad for this guy, because this is the very first TH-cam video I’ve watched of his and people are just destroying him in the comments lmao
That awkward moment when turn 10 spain changes are mentioned but the f1 game is used for the footage. motogp game, anyone? maybe do a follow up vid with the comment sugestions
One corner from a layout that made it on to the F1 2020 game, if not real life, the very tight, left hand hairpin at the end of the curving back straight of the Hanoi Street Circuit. The approach to this corner does at least allow some slipstreaming on the approach, but at the corner itself, you have to make sure you are well and truly ahead before the braking zone. Why? Because even when it's one at a time, there isn't enough steering lock to avoid running wide on corner exit. Very frustrating
To me, The Worst Corner is Turn 6 at the Indy RC, Proof of this was during the 2021 NASCAR Cup Race where the Curb Broke there causing a Massive Crash
This is THE worst list of best/worst list regarding simracing I have ever seen.
I will admit it on the F1 Mobile Game. I've been able to drive on season mode. At Barcelona I was always able to find overtaking opportunities into the sharp hairpin and the chicane. I did put the AI on like 100.
Daytona turn 1. Plenty of runoff but the turn is too narrow for 3 wide, so opening laps always end in contact. Especially in the GT classes
F1 fixed Barcelona for 2023
Glad someone agrees with me about the awful corner sequences and variable radius corners on Tilke circuits, I hate them which is why I just don’t like the F1 games as much as I used to, and don’t get me started on Paul Ricard, watching races there gives me a headache
Final hairpin @ Longbeach
T1 @ Monza.
Final chicane at Spa.
i agree lmao
COTA - Leaving enough room for an aircraft carrier..... tell that to Russell/Sainz
I don't like Turn 17/18 at Sebring lol, it is very annoying to get right and makes it seem like the tires want to be torn apart.
If you use some of the run off after turn 16 you can make 17 easier by making the corner more curved making it faster to do, sure maybe you’ll still hit the curb after the turn but lots of good corners that happens and it is totally fine to use the curbs, although I would still say it is a pretty mediocre turn though
This whole video is literally "These corners arent flat out, we dont like"
I think this is more of a "turns i can't do so they must suck"
Forests Elbow is hard, but not bad, hard braking zone into a hairpin downhill, and you're main complaints are "Easy too brake to early or too late" but say Monza T1 is great
Forest Elbow is a great corner. Like Quarry bend but a left hand turn. The chicanes mentioned are worthy but to put Forest Elbow in amongst those is not right.
Final chicane at Suzuka. I can never hit it right no matter what I do.
Im sorry but i dont understand the logic behind the decisions for ALL the corners listed on here to be the 10 WORST corners in sim racing
I hate some of the corners in dirt rally 2, just because you can cut them to save time, I made a video about it lol
Don't agree with COTA, Paul Ricard, Silverstone, China, and Bathurst... this corner is so... satysfaying.
I hate this turn in brand hatch but it's a fucking good corner!
Seem you don't like challenging and long turn 😂
"Pain in the Haas...." While I, a NASCAR fan from America, typically cringe at how you pronounce "Haas" in the UK (Is that more to do with Will Buxton's Haas jokes? Probably.), this has to be my favorite Haas joke. And, I agree, the Village section is a pain in the Haas. Why couldn't they just keep the Bridge section? I mean, I assume safety was a part of it, but was that all?
"...and that chicane deserves to be next." It's always a great day when racing series actually listen to the fans (not like when NASCAR renamed the Chase the Playoffs after fans had been calling for them to just get rid of the Chase).
I actually enjoy Forrest's Elbow. It's among my top 4 corners around Mount Panorama, and among my top 10 in the world. It's actually satisfying to get right imo.
i was almost certain long beach would be top 3 but it's not even on the list
let me get this right, you just don't like challenging corners
5:39 It replaced Bridge corner. Not a compromise I cope with.
The old Monza double chicane was quite good to drive, but the new one is much better for overtaking
some of these corners are kinda unsatisfying, the difference between other simgames and these codemasters clips, is that all the circuits are made like crap, thats why some corners in the f1 game do not make any sense
i think that the COTA one is not true. turns 6-9 are difficult but fun because of their difficulty.
Clearly these guys have never seen a race at Bathurst, because the Elbow is one of the easiest corners on the entire circuit 🥴
What planet do you live on where project cars 2 AI are designed to AVOID contact 😂😂
thankfully, final chicane of Barcelona-Catalunya is off!!!!!!
I disagree with you pick for Silverstone, I rather like the village section, but I really dislike Copse and Abbey
Globally he hate these corner on f1 because he is not good enough to take them.
Only I can agree is about Spain.
No Fuji 100r and 14 15 16 turns?
I think you kinda have a weird taste in race tracks, man. You like COTA T1 for some reason, and you mention Brands Hatch without talking about how awful the last 2 corners in the forest section are. Seriously, it is impossible to see the line through Sheeze and going into Stirlings feels like a massive compromise. Honestly, for me, I don't get the appeal of Brands Hatch overall.
Also, on the topic of Fuji, it's probably the worst circuit I've ever raced on. I've called it the Late Apex GP because that's what most of the corners are.
I would say that village is very good but the loop is trash
personally i belive that turn 1 of brand hatch is way worse than t0
"bus stop" at spa should be in this list, its an awful chicane and the original bus stop is much quicker and easier to take. i also love and hate turn 17 at sebring, its a great turn but the giant runoff and the sunbleached track makes it very hard to see if youre on the right line, i always end up braking way too much or ending up in the outside wall
Yeah I agree, that one ruins the track, all the others are perfect
In my opinion the only ones i agree with is the corners that got changed the rest are good fun from my driving then again i aint afraid of contact which makes me a terrible F1 driver but honestly the worst corners ive driven so far without a doubt the chicane at road America motorcycle layout it ruins all flow and ability to even try an overtake and even in a motorcycle its clunky and flow ruining
loop at silverstone is one of the best to race
#4 you can completely disregard if your an f1 fan
Brands Hatch is the worst of all... I think it is the most challenging track of all.
It certainly splits opinions! I don't enjoy racing Indy much at all, but I absolutely love the GP layout. - John
why does brands hatch have a similar logo to some other race tracks? is it like the speedway motorsports of the uk?
Bahrain turn 10 is the worst for me
I disagree with most of these
Im sorry but the elbow has no place on this list.
You most likely know much worse corners, but for me Barcelona chicane still remains the worst...
Thankfully, we no longer have to worry about that! (For F1 at least)
couple corners i'd like to add:
Spa Turn 10
Yas Marina Turns 17-18-19
Sebring Turn 17
Sochi Turns 13-14-15-16
Indianapolis GP Turn 1 (especially this one)
Hey man, spa turn 10 is amazing and very challenging and goes down hill which makes it very good because it has a lot of elevation.
should change the title of the video most difivault corners no the worst
All of Fuji
Interesting call!😱 What do you dislike about it? I can certainly understand the last sector being an issue, although personally I think it encourages exciting racing, even if it feels awful to drive...
@@TraxionGG they literally said what they dislike about it in the comment 💀
My list
Turn 7 and 17 at Sebring. 7 Is tight and annoying while 17 is long and bumpy
Chicane at Monza
Final Chicane at Spa
Turn 1 at Daytona can be very annoying on less than ideal tire temps. Rain also screws you
Oh and all of Bathurst Mount Panorama
skill issue
you forgot all of laguna seca 😅
Appart from the big swoopy one and the right turn after
Turn 8 Watkins Glen boot is a crime against humanity.
I think the boot section is actually fun and challenging and has probably the most elevation on the track which I love
skill issue
Your inability to tackle Forest Elbow correctly doesn't make it the worst corner in sim racing.
Hard doesnt mean bad. Hard means you're a bad driver if you cant get it right.
You could literally pick any corner at an actual terrible track like Sebring or basically any US circuit or any new modern F1 circuit and they're all far, far worse.
Utterly cooked take.
I know it's been like a year, but what do you mean by "basically any US circuit"?
Please elaborate, 'cause that seems like far more of a cooked take than anything said in this video.
Pretty bad takes imo
The right hander at Abbey ripped the heart out of Silverstone. The track should go LEFT and under the bridge to one of the fastest, favourite sections in F1. But no, we turn right into a boring, typically Tilke section. This man should never be allowed near a pencil again.
I agree fully with this sentiment, although the one argument I would have in the new circuits favour is that it really does promote some of the worlds best wheel to wheel racing!
Brands Hatch Indy is a great track