Monza is definetly one of the hardest circuits to set a good time. You absolutly have to murder every of the 11? corners. Yes, it is a rather easy layout, but hitting the Lesmo's, Ascari, the exit of Parabolica and turn 1 just perfect is a menacing task. IMO Monza is the grown up version of the Red Bull Ring. Longer, faster, and much more unforgiving in regards of laptime.
Exactly, and on top of that; the combo of stupidly tall death kerbs and the lack of tarmac run off means that if you aren’t precise as well as aggressive means that you can easily go off track, often violently.
Red Bull ring has track limits galore though, very tough to set a good lap without it being deleted. The Austrian GP 2023 was an absolute slaughter fest in that regard.
Seriously when i saw the thumbnail and monza was down there i got triggered 🤣... I agree monza is super hard to nail everything down and there's so little time to gain through those corners especially when everyone is on that high-level... The redbull ring is alright for me but i really struggle with turn 1.. The inside curb can easily lift the car and the runoff area at turn 1 has that mini sausages but ig that isn't the corner itself.. Im talking from AC perspective which that turn 1 is probably outdated i think.. Anyways another track i find kinda hard is zandvoort but that's likely an ingame thing. The problem is tire heating, the track has alot of high-speed corners which burns the tires up.. Singapore isn't a hard layout for me but in the aspect of real life driving it should be. I believe Hamilton talked about it... the old layout of Albert park was easy but sector 3 had some corners in it that can catch you. Those few corners you'd think ur goin fast enough but in the time ur not and turn 1 can be problematic.. Bahrain is a difficult seeming track but i never really had struggles with it apart from that weird hirpin corner leading into the middle straight and the the 3rd last corner leading on to the final straight... Interlagos turn 1, 2 and turn 4 is also pretty tough.. Especially turn 4 it can be very punishing if u go on the outside kerb.. Im sure there's more but this comment is way tooo lonng anyway
I know this was four months ago, but Melbourne is a tricky track to rank. Yes, it’s easy but the width of the road is narrow making it hard to overtake; yet the track has four DRS zones creating more opportunities to do so. I mean we just saw it Yesterday, it was absolute Mayham. You can’t say it’s an easy track when there were eight DNFs.
Qatar definitely hasn’t aged well although tbf at the time I probably would have agreed. Given the heat and tyre situation though I would almost certainly chuck it into the top tier.
China is a pretty tough track, a couple of corners and you are 0.8 seg behind everyone else. Interlagos is also very tough: many off-camber, blind corners. S2 and S3 you have 1 corner exit leading to the next corner entry. Elevation changes, variable angle corners, bumpy tarmac too. It is a pretty tough track to get right.
I'm definitely with you regarding the ranking of the Red Bull Ring but I would've loved it to hear more about it than "it's hard to get pole there" like the elevation changes within a lap (and doing that over 70 times throughout the race) or simply the 90° corners in the first sector which are always a crucial point in lap 1 or when there are battles. Nonetheless great video and greetings from Austria. 😊
very true, sorry to not give more detail (Austria is one of my favourite tracks so could have easaily spent half the video talking about it). Sadly though, 24 tracks to talk about and the video was already 17 minutes
Vegas is going to be a Mario Kart circuit in terms of the actual driving. In terms of mechanical reliability (especially at the end of the season when teams are trying to nurse older PUs and gearboxes without taking a penalty) it could be brutal, and the actual surface quality is a huge question mark (expecting it to be worst than Miami but we'll have to see). I think the provisional ranking is spot on, only comment is that you have the start/finish line in the wrong spot (should be the tiny straight just before the hairpin in the upper right - which is where they are building the permanent paddock area).
Something to watch for in Vegas, in my experience the roads there get a layer of oil built up on them and if a couple raindrops come they become like an ice rink. So it could go from simple to near impossible with only a slight weather change
Never would have thought of that but could make it interesting! Sorry if it's a stupid question but does it rain much in Vegas? I would have guessed basically never..
@@MrVsGarage Vegas rainfall average for the entire month of November is about 7 mm. So, uh, very low chance for rain. Though it would sure be fun. The main issue will be the very low temps, probably going to be around 45F/7C at race time, and maybe breezy.
Spa is the greatest race on the calendar. Its the only race I set an alarm clock to watch at 3 am live. They should rename it to Murphy's Spa, if it can go wrong: it probably did while it was raining.
Im not with you with a couple of these😅, monza lay-out seems easy but thats the tricky part, the hard breaking zones make it not so easy. Plus spa seems a lot easier. Nice vid👍
@@rubenellen7046 I think also Imola should be on top. But Spa looks very different in a video game I think. In F1 you have to deal with so much elevation, your body has to be compressed and takes a lot of G force in some corner, they are driving to the limit in so many corner it's crazy. While in monza, they juste have to manage their tyres in the corners, and yes there are a few tricky corners before important straights, I would put it in C3
@@jeje7560ut in monza u have to go trough tricky corners with 0 wings cause of the long straights which means a lot less downforce. Maybe its not up there with Monaco, But def not down there.
Spa layout is not that difficult, but it's quite taxing track. It's like just below Singapore, monaco. Highest single side lateral G and highest vertical G is at spa.
Marina bay is just a different level, the speed at which the corners come towards you is unreal fr. Just started watching your videos, love them and I hope this blows up soon!!
Montreal is an absolute cupcake for me. Every time I pick up a new F1 game, it’s the first track I start hotlapping to get a feel for how the game handles. Maybe it’s just because I’ve driven it so much (during some career modes I have literally restarted a race a lap from victory just to race it again) but it’s just so easy to go fast at. Easy Mario kart selection for me.
Interesting to see what you think are difficult. I’ve always found Singapore to be easy and Melbourne to be hard. Goes to show that some people have different preferences.
Hi there. I used to drive in interlagos few times (track days events), and I can tell you Interlagos is very tricky. Here goes some examples: 1) Turn "Laranjinha" (little orange): in this case "orange" means something like "hard for an inexpert). This curve is tricky because you are going up hill and you can't see where curve will be exactly when approaching. Some drivers build a reference in their minds. 2) Turn "Pico de Pato" (Duck Beak) + "Megulho" (Dive) + Turn "Junção" (Junction): if you are defending your position you must do this sequence at your best, otherwise your opponent will get close to you at the Junction (just before the long up hill towards the finish line). A perfect curve at Junction will give you engine power to go up the hill with maximum power (remember Galsy in 2019 against Hamilton in the last lap - perfect preparation for the long hill) 3) A fast lap in interlagos depends on doing well the Senna's S curve. A F1 drive is coming at +300 and must break, start the turn very open and try to make the middle of the curve almost like a straight, then turn to the right in the right angle to complete the "curva do sol" (Sun Curve) gaining speed for the long straight (called opposite Straight) down to the lake. 😂 tricky, isn't? And there's more! 😊
The only ones I majorly disagree on are Monza and Spa actually. I think it really depends on what perspective you judge them from. Making no mistakes is truly much easier at Monza due to fewer corners than in Spa where there are some corners that are somewhat less forgiveable than in Monza. However if you judge it from a pure 'percect lap' perspective I find Monza a much much harder circuit. For me personally fewer corners have always made the track harder. I am a rather late braker which makes low speed corners very hard for me to get the trick off. You actually explained that really well with the RB-Ring which is a track that I also find difficult to get right. The fewer corners you have the more perfect you have to be at the few you have to get a good hot lap in. For some reason Monza has always been a nemesis of mine because I hate two chicanes and I still do not get a grip on the two Lezmos for some reason. Austria it's quite the same. The upper hair-pin which is turn 3 I believe is still very tricky for me. On the other side Silverstone and Spa have always been tracks where I have excelled and driven very well on. In terms of making no mistakes over a long distance they are certainly more difficult than Monza and Austria but in terms of getting a great lap in are much easier for me. The only corners I still struggle with a little bit are Copse, La Source and the last chicane in Spa. So if it was a personal matter I would switch those for up but in general this is a rather representative tier list I would say.
Las Vegas ended up being one of, if not the best race of the year. Not sure if it was the track or the colder temperatures messing things up, but it delivered, contrary to all expectations...
hey mr. v, love the content, been watching you for a while now! you mentioned rear-limited and front-limited turns, chicanes and hairpins. i was wondering if you could make a video explaining turns and how you might best drive them?
could be interesting, I get the feeling I might end up talking for hours. I've seen very simple videos on racing lines by other people but I'd prefer to go into it in detail, and it's a complicated thing sometimes
Catalunya and Silverstone are going into C3 Tires at the most dare I say Eve Mario Kart. Once you get into a rhythm you’ll be flying around the place. The only hard part is the nonesense chicane in Catalunya.
Thank you for this video. I only played some of those tracks in simcade games (GT and Forza) but I didn't suffer much on Spa so I would've put it in Crikey. Monaco is spot on, I always hated this track since my SNES day. Everytime I saw it in F1 Exhaust Heat or F1 Pole Position I knew I was fudged.
That's fair. The thing that made me bump Spa up is the G forces. A corner that is simple in a game can feel like someone is ripping your head off your shoulders in real life
i personally find jedda to be harder than monaco. Here is WHY. in monaco you just need to aclimate to the right cornerspeed, even though the last sector is a bit more challenging, i think you can get used to it. As of Jedda you have many high speed corners wich you need to 1. find the apex 2. at the right speed. At some tracks if you dont manage, this specific corner is wasted, but you can still get the other ones right. however at this track if you mess up one corner, the next one is also messed up because you have left and right combinations. wich means if you go wide at one corner you will miss the other one as well. You need to be at the right line to have maximum grip otherwise you lose SO MUCH time during these corners especially in sector 1 because they are also very fast. wich by the way makes suzuka that hard aswell. during a race such a track can make you lose lot of time if you acumulate all these mistakes in monaco its hard to overtake even if you lose some time here and there its not as fatal
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So easy to lockup at Montreal, the setup is also tricky considering the balance between drag and low speed grip for the braking and rapid slow-corner rotation.
You should really divide this by quali vs. race. Monaco is the hardest qualifier, but because it's so hard to pass, there's really nothing to lose in the race. Look at Alonso last year; you could drive that damn slow and not lose a spot. Can't be that hard.
5:19 good video overall. my issue with some sections of this video is that it felt rushed at times. in some of the shorter segments especially- a lot of words are said, but not a lot of new info was conveyed that isnt already common knowledge. Lets dissect this line for example 5:20- "Its got walls, its got bumps, its got this bullshit". some of the other difficult tracks you listed have walls and bumps too, but what is "this bullshit"? what are the names/numbers of the turns on the track? what does it look like from the cockpit's view in that specific "bullshit" sections? in the 12:22 Singapore section you say its, "hot! humid. bumpy. long. walls!". However then completely fail to illustrate to us what any of those bumps and walls are supposed to look like with modern cockpit footage. what are the temps that some of these tropical circuits experience, 50 centigrade?
I'd personally bump up Jeddah, just because it's scary as sh*t for the drivers. I'm surprised that the average speed around this track is only 250km/h. Honestly, there's just something I find kind of creepy about this track. It's basically pitch black around, you're going at insane speeds the whole time, the walls are pinching you in every corner, the risk of having a monumental crash with someone or by yourself is much higher, and so on.
I think a category between Crikey and Race me so hard would have been good, I'd have demoted spa into that, and put Imola, Baku, Suzuka and Jeddah in there
You down-graded Spa?! It's killed more drivers than Monaco, it's a planning nightmare, and almost guaranteed to rain on at least 1 of the three days they are there.
@@brandonsparks5786 This isn't about danger, it's about difficulty. It's far harder to complete a lap of Monaco and Singapore without crashing than at Spa, let alone setting a good time in the process. Imola, Baku and Suzuka are all just as hard as Spa in that regard as well
Monaco was already an aberration the very first time it was used as a race track. It need a fifth category all for itself, the Monaco line above «They race me so hard». 70 laps is not so bad when you remember that it originally had the same distance as the other races and need over 100 laps to complete.
It's weird for me how SPA was ranked one of the hardest. It's easy for me, maybe because it's my favorite track and might've raced on it double the amount of laps my next favorite track I raced at.
No walls in Melbourne? Please tell that to 2009's turn 5. Also turn 2 which could be a second wall of champions if it was a few metres closer in. And I'd argue that Imola and Silverstone are Ce tyres at most - turns 9, 10 and 1 at the A1 ring being a serious challenge to get right, especially given the inability to make up lost time on a qualifying lap. Personally I'd also say Hungary is more challenging than Spa, hence why the races there are always some of the most interesting.
You are highly mistaken if you consider Monza one of the easiest tracks. It holds some of the toughest braking zones of the calendar and taking those chicanes, the Ascari and the Parabolica with such low amounts of downforce is no joke. Definetely not the easiest track of the calendar
for me imola is one of the hardest to improve my laptime. I felt that anti-clockwise tracks are more challenging and also imola with F1 cars nowadays can be quite tricky to maintain good speed through the corners because there’ll be split seconds brake throttle playing with tricky grip as well
I think Spa may be one of those tracks where the difference is bigger on SIM compared to real life. You don't get much G from elevation changes behind your computer.
When it comes to Suzuka, I think that it's the circuit that's most affected by wheel vs. Controller, Especially with the Ss at the start of the lap. That complex is a nightmare of controller due to the lack of precision but is almost trivial on a wheel.
This is nonsense. There's no such thing as a difficult track. The only thing that can prevent you (yes you: youtube user and sub-F1 tier driver) from getting pole on any track is the competition you are against. If it's a blind grandmother with a wooden leg, navigating via clicks in each ear, pole in Monaco is yours for the taking. If it's Verstappen in an RB19, you won't get pole on an oval in a month of Sundays.
Singapore by the weather itself is the most taxing track on the calendar. The same track in Europe would have been a pretty good experience, but heat and humidity just pushes it on the top
@@thecompanioncube4211 i've been in dominican republic i know what It is, 45 is way worse trust me and the wind is just like a blower and I've seen 35 at 80 or above humidity in santo domingo, you don't know what 45c is with the Wind coming from the Sáhara, the Wind is just disgusting
@@albertotrigosbueno5547 dude... No one is saying there is no other place hotter than Singapore. Why the heck are you starting a dick measuring contest here.
Nice video! Hope you provide us with more of these the coming months to keep the F1 content flowing. ... Yes, I'm already dreading the long winter without race weekends. Don't judge me...
Thing about Vegas is, they're going to be running it at night. LATE at night. In SEPTEMBER. And it gets COLD out there at night. Imagine the heat and humidity of Singapore, and flip it to the opposite extreme (very cold, very dry). That's what's on tap in Sin City.
@@thecompanioncube4211 It's warm in ANY racing cockpit. But what of the spectators and pit crew? And most importantly, what of the equipment? This could turn out to be the coldest race F1 has run in a WHILE. And extreme shifts in temperature tend to make things crack.
@@ToABrighterFuture didn't know we were including external factors other than driver experience into judging the race track difficulty. Fair enough point though. We'll see how that race goes
Monza is definetly one of the hardest circuits to set a good time. You absolutly have to murder every of the 11? corners. Yes, it is a rather easy layout, but hitting the Lesmo's, Ascari, the exit of Parabolica and turn 1 just perfect is a menacing task. IMO Monza is the grown up version of the Red Bull Ring. Longer, faster, and much more unforgiving in regards of laptime.
Exactly, and on top of that; the combo of stupidly tall death kerbs and the lack of tarmac run off means that if you aren’t precise as well as aggressive means that you can easily go off track, often violently.
getting the first braking point right at monza makes me wanna kms
Red Bull ring has track limits galore though, very tough to set a good lap without it being deleted. The Austrian GP 2023 was an absolute slaughter fest in that regard.
@@willsharp4392 Fr if I miss it by an inch it ruins the lap 😭
Seriously when i saw the thumbnail and monza was down there i got triggered 🤣... I agree monza is super hard to nail everything down and there's so little time to gain through those corners especially when everyone is on that high-level... The redbull ring is alright for me but i really struggle with turn 1.. The inside curb can easily lift the car and the runoff area at turn 1 has that mini sausages but ig that isn't the corner itself.. Im talking from AC perspective which that turn 1 is probably outdated i think.. Anyways another track i find kinda hard is zandvoort but that's likely an ingame thing. The problem is tire heating, the track has alot of high-speed corners which burns the tires up.. Singapore isn't a hard layout for me but in the aspect of real life driving it should be. I believe Hamilton talked about it... the old layout of Albert park was easy but sector 3 had some corners in it that can catch you. Those few corners you'd think ur goin fast enough but in the time ur not and turn 1 can be problematic.. Bahrain is a difficult seeming track but i never really had struggles with it apart from that weird hirpin corner leading into the middle straight and the the 3rd last corner leading on to the final straight... Interlagos turn 1, 2 and turn 4 is also pretty tough.. Especially turn 4 it can be very punishing if u go on the outside kerb.. Im sure there's more but this comment is way tooo lonng anyway
FIA: 12 Meters Width of the track
Monaco: 7 to 10 meters, take it or leave it
The only reason why Monaco still exist is profit
Seeing this after the Qatar gp was interesting to say the least
Fr I was expecting c3 minimum
Came here to say this 😂
Me too😂
And somehow most drivers liked the track not the weather tho they said it should be moved up to be with Abu Dubai no liked Vegas tho
That aged so bad and it's not only because of the heat but the fast corners for an hour and a half of racing is hard
I know this was four months ago, but Melbourne is a tricky track to rank. Yes, it’s easy but the width of the road is narrow making it hard to overtake; yet the track has four DRS zones creating more opportunities to do so. I mean we just saw it Yesterday, it was absolute Mayham. You can’t say it’s an easy track when there were eight DNFs.
Qatar definitely hasn’t aged well although tbf at the time I probably would have agreed. Given the heat and tyre situation though I would almost certainly chuck it into the top tier.
honestly sectors 1 and 2 of suzuka are so hard to nail and be truly fast at that I do think it should be at the bottom of the top tier
I feel like getting around Suzuka is easy, to nail 1 perfect lap KMS.
@@triplesharigan You could just as well say that getting around Nordschleife is easy.
You said a lot of times “on the simulator”… yeah, basically if monza is mario kart level, my grandma is a bike 😂😂
Does anybody else think that Spa looks like an UZI?
For me it s like a bird. Raven or smthing
It does
Like a glue gun
And Shanghai looks like a bunny preparing for a fist fight.
And COTA is like Microscope
for me spa and suzuka are the best tracks ever. I hope that someday I will be able to afford to fly to Japan and ride this track in reality.
Hello, I think your opinion will change about Australia after today😂
@@v1k1ng43 😂😂 it was a madness
China is a pretty tough track, a couple of corners and you are 0.8 seg behind everyone else. Interlagos is also very tough: many off-camber, blind corners. S2 and S3 you have 1 corner exit leading to the next corner entry. Elevation changes, variable angle corners, bumpy tarmac too. It is a pretty tough track to get right.
This year Qatar was the hardest with track modifications that were not approved and harsh weather conditions that tested the resolve of thr players.
Excited to see this channel blow up in the future. Deserves to be up there with Tommo Aldas etcw
thank you, that's so nice to hear. it's a dream of mine, I'm going to keep making these videos and see if we can make it a reality!
@@MrVsGarage it’s gonna happen and if not u atleast got my sub
I'm definitely with you regarding the ranking of the Red Bull Ring but I would've loved it to hear more about it than "it's hard to get pole there" like the elevation changes within a lap (and doing that over 70 times throughout the race) or simply the 90° corners in the first sector which are always a crucial point in lap 1 or when there are battles.
Nonetheless great video and greetings from Austria. 😊
very true, sorry to not give more detail (Austria is one of my favourite tracks so could have easaily spent half the video talking about it). Sadly though, 24 tracks to talk about and the video was already 17 minutes
The most challenging thing about Red Bull Ring is track limits. The rest is challenging enough to be a lot of fun but not rage inducingly difficult.
@@TrolledBy This aged like good wine thinking 2 weeks back. One thousand f***ing two hundred track limit breaches.
Vegas is going to be a Mario Kart circuit in terms of the actual driving. In terms of mechanical reliability (especially at the end of the season when teams are trying to nurse older PUs and gearboxes without taking a penalty) it could be brutal, and the actual surface quality is a huge question mark (expecting it to be worst than Miami but we'll have to see). I think the provisional ranking is spot on, only comment is that you have the start/finish line in the wrong spot (should be the tiny straight just before the hairpin in the upper right - which is where they are building the permanent paddock area).
Something to watch for in Vegas, in my experience the roads there get a layer of oil built up on them and if a couple raindrops come they become like an ice rink. So it could go from simple to near impossible with only a slight weather change
Never would have thought of that but could make it interesting! Sorry if it's a stupid question but does it rain much in Vegas? I would have guessed basically never..
@@MrVsGarage Vegas rainfall average for the entire month of November is about 7 mm. So, uh, very low chance for rain. Though it would sure be fun. The main issue will be the very low temps, probably going to be around 45F/7C at race time, and maybe breezy.
@@MrVsGarage They get about 10cm of rain per year. Not a lot, but more than nothing.
Spa is the greatest race on the calendar. Its the only race I set an alarm clock to watch at 3 am live. They should rename it to Murphy's Spa, if it can go wrong: it probably did while it was raining.
Im not with you with a couple of these😅, monza lay-out seems easy but thats the tricky part, the hard breaking zones make it not so easy. Plus spa seems a lot easier. Nice vid👍
Also imola could go up to top class
@@rubenellen7046 I think also Imola should be on top. But Spa looks very different in a video game I think. In F1 you have to deal with so much elevation, your body has to be compressed and takes a lot of G force in some corner, they are driving to the limit in so many corner it's crazy. While in monza, they juste have to manage their tyres in the corners, and yes there are a few tricky corners before important straights, I would put it in C3
@@jeje7560 true, but i think thats what makes monza hard. It looks like the easiest layout to drive but every year we see gaos is motorsports.
@@jeje7560ut in monza u have to go trough tricky corners with 0 wings cause of the long straights which means a lot less downforce. Maybe its not up there with Monaco, But def not down there.
Spa layout is not that difficult, but it's quite taxing track. It's like just below Singapore, monaco. Highest single side lateral G and highest vertical G is at spa.
SPA is by far my favorite ever. Baku Gp often fun
I don't think it's that hard neither. Kinda long and a tad bit difficult to remember. But definitely and objectively the best
Marina bay is just a different level, the speed at which the corners come towards you is unreal fr. Just started watching your videos, love them and I hope this blows up soon!!
so for the hardest circuits we have two traditional and classic tracks with monaco and spa and signapur.
I was so happy when I saw you'd uploaded again! Love your content, this was a great and interesting video
Monaco is the hardest layout but Singapore is harder because because of the conditions
Montreal is an absolute cupcake for me. Every time I pick up a new F1 game, it’s the first track I start hotlapping to get a feel for how the game handles. Maybe it’s just because I’ve driven it so much (during some career modes I have literally restarted a race a lap from victory just to race it again) but it’s just so easy to go fast at. Easy Mario kart selection for me.
Interesting to see what you think are difficult. I’ve always found Singapore to be easy and Melbourne to be hard. Goes to show that some people have different preferences.
The chicane before the third drs zone is the worst part but the rest is fairly easy
@@Salamence386 which track? Singapore or Melbourne?
@@lightninlarry8936 I think he reffers to Melbourne, former turn 11&12, which is now turn 9&10 since they removed a chicane in 2022.
agreed
Hi there. I used to drive in interlagos few times (track days events), and I can tell you Interlagos is very tricky. Here goes some examples:
1) Turn "Laranjinha" (little orange): in this case "orange" means something like "hard for an inexpert). This curve is tricky because you are going up hill and you can't see where curve will be exactly when approaching. Some drivers build a reference in their minds.
2) Turn "Pico de Pato" (Duck Beak) + "Megulho" (Dive) + Turn "Junção" (Junction): if you are defending your position you must do this sequence at your best, otherwise your opponent will get close to you at the Junction (just before the long up hill towards the finish line). A perfect curve at Junction will give you engine power to go up the hill with maximum power (remember Galsy in 2019 against Hamilton in the last lap - perfect preparation for the long hill)
3) A fast lap in interlagos depends on doing well the Senna's S curve. A F1 drive is coming at +300 and must break, start the turn very open and try to make the middle of the curve almost like a straight, then turn to the right in the right angle to complete the "curva do sol" (Sun Curve) gaining speed for the long straight (called opposite Straight) down to the lake.
😂 tricky, isn't? And there's more! 😊
o gringo do video n sabe nada. depois que vi como ele avaliou Interlagos ja desconsiderei tudo q ele falou.
O cara botou Texas como sendo uma pista mais difícil que Interlagos... that idiot doesn't know what he is saying
Singapore has the highest retirement to race ratio. Guaranteed safety car
Spa francorchamps is my fav circuit and in irl and in f1 games
I think Qatar might need to be bumped up a bit
The only ones I majorly disagree on are Monza and Spa actually. I think it really depends on what perspective you judge them from. Making no mistakes is truly much easier at Monza due to fewer corners than in Spa where there are some corners that are somewhat less forgiveable than in Monza. However if you judge it from a pure 'percect lap' perspective I find Monza a much much harder circuit. For me personally fewer corners have always made the track harder. I am a rather late braker which makes low speed corners very hard for me to get the trick off. You actually explained that really well with the RB-Ring which is a track that I also find difficult to get right. The fewer corners you have the more perfect you have to be at the few you have to get a good hot lap in. For some reason Monza has always been a nemesis of mine because I hate two chicanes and I still do not get a grip on the two Lezmos for some reason. Austria it's quite the same. The upper hair-pin which is turn 3 I believe is still very tricky for me. On the other side Silverstone and Spa have always been tracks where I have excelled and driven very well on. In terms of making no mistakes over a long distance they are certainly more difficult than Monza and Austria but in terms of getting a great lap in are much easier for me. The only corners I still struggle with a little bit are Copse, La Source and the last chicane in Spa. So if it was a personal matter I would switch those for up but in general this is a rather representative tier list I would say.
13:22 that aged well...
I'm rewatching this, and gee, it's awesome to feel like the very first time I saw you. This is gold.
Las Vegas ended up being one of, if not the best race of the year. Not sure if it was the track or the colder temperatures messing things up, but it delivered, contrary to all expectations...
hey mr. v, love the content, been watching you for a while now! you mentioned rear-limited and front-limited turns, chicanes and hairpins. i was wondering if you could make a video explaining turns and how you might best drive them?
could be interesting, I get the feeling I might end up talking for hours. I've seen very simple videos on racing lines by other people but I'd prefer to go into it in detail, and it's a complicated thing sometimes
I second that !
@@MrVsGarage that's fair! although i wouldn't mind an hours-long video from you, your editing style and commentary is super entertaining :)
*thinks about how long it would take to edit an hour long video* 😫
Catalunya and Silverstone are going into C3 Tires at the most dare I say Eve Mario Kart. Once you get into a rhythm you’ll be flying around the place. The only hard part is the nonesense chicane in Catalunya.
Thank you for this video. I only played some of those tracks in simcade games (GT and Forza) but I didn't suffer much on Spa so I would've put it in Crikey.
Monaco is spot on, I always hated this track since my SNES day. Everytime I saw it in F1 Exhaust Heat or F1 Pole Position I knew I was fudged.
That's fair. The thing that made me bump Spa up is the G forces. A corner that is simple in a game can feel like someone is ripping your head off your shoulders in real life
@@MrVsGarage Crap I totally forgot about the G forces. But as someone that gets nausea after 20 minutes of go-kart I totally understand that.
@@MrVsGarage Also weather. Except that really isn't an issue in modern F1 since they just call the race off if it rains.
Damn, that getting hit by Lance Stroll while talking about the Australian track really aged well..
i personally find jedda to be harder than monaco. Here is WHY. in monaco you just need to aclimate to the right cornerspeed, even though the last sector is a bit more challenging, i think you can get used to it. As of Jedda you have many high speed corners wich you need to 1. find the apex 2. at the right speed. At some tracks if you dont manage, this specific corner is wasted, but you can still get the other ones right. however at this track if you mess up one corner, the next one is also messed up because you have left and right combinations. wich means if you go wide at one corner you will miss the other one as well. You need to be at the right line to have maximum grip otherwise you lose SO MUCH time during these corners especially in sector 1 because they are also very fast. wich by the way makes suzuka that hard aswell. during a race such a track can make you lose lot of time if you acumulate all these mistakes in monaco its hard to overtake even if you lose some time here and there its not as fatal
i got here thank to the algorithm and i'm glad i did! I've been watching F1 for the last 20 years of my life and it's amazing to see so many talented and funny youtubers make great content
Thanks man! I'm just making the best stuff I can, glad it's entertaining!
So easy to lockup at Montreal, the setup is also tricky considering the balance between drag and low speed grip for the braking and rapid slow-corner rotation.
I absolutely hate Suzuka on race sims, but it's great to watch races there
I was surprised with Spa. I've always found it relaxing, at least in the sim, no matter what car I'm driving on it.
Spa is the ultimate track... Absolute number 1.. But, I do think it needs some run off redesign and such, too many have been killed there.
I started playing F1 23 recently, and while going through the hair pins at Jeddah, I misread Aramco for Ocon, now I just call them Ocon Corners
Great video and channel!!!!
“Bahrain has a lot of runoff, so it’s very forgiving if you make a mistake.”
Romain Grosjean: ………
Monza turn 1 with traffic is terrifying
You should really divide this by quali vs. race. Monaco is the hardest qualifier, but because it's so hard to pass, there's really nothing to lose in the race. Look at Alonso last year; you could drive that damn slow and not lose a spot. Can't be that hard.
It's true it's very different, but it took long enough to put 24 things in this video nevermind 48 😅
Not really, no place for mistake. So many walls, so many laps …
5:19 good video overall. my issue with some sections of this video is that it felt rushed at times. in some of the shorter segments especially- a lot of words are said, but not a lot of new info was conveyed that isnt already common knowledge. Lets dissect this line for example 5:20- "Its got walls, its got bumps, its got this bullshit". some of the other difficult tracks you listed have walls and bumps too, but what is "this bullshit"? what are the names/numbers of the turns on the track? what does it look like from the cockpit's view in that specific "bullshit" sections? in the 12:22 Singapore section you say its, "hot! humid. bumpy. long. walls!". However then completely fail to illustrate to us what any of those bumps and walls are supposed to look like with modern cockpit footage. what are the temps that some of these tropical circuits experience, 50 centigrade?
Tbh jeddah might be simple but its so incredibly fun in f1 23 for some reason
Australia one didn't age well for a lot of drivers
Awesome Video from Mr V. Again! Keep it up ! Can’t wait for this channel to blow up!
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Can't stop won't stop! Glad you enjoyed, more coming whenever I find time around designing cars IRL
I'd personally bump up Jeddah, just because it's scary as sh*t for the drivers. I'm surprised that the average speed around this track is only 250km/h.
Honestly, there's just something I find kind of creepy about this track. It's basically pitch black around, you're going at insane speeds the whole time, the walls are pinching you in every corner, the risk of having a monumental crash with someone or by yourself is much higher, and so on.
Las Vegas is basically Tokyo R246 Reverse from Gran Turismo. Certainly not the toughest track in that game, but not a cakewalk either.
“You can hit the walls in Melbourne, but that almost never happens” … this aged badly
I'm pretty confident K Mag is on a mission just to make me look bad
I think Baku should be at the top as should Jeddah. It must be absolutely butt clenching to go so close to the walls at such high speeds
Even in just the f1 games its a pain in the ass to drive, definitely one of my least favorite to race on
I think a category between Crikey and Race me so hard would have been good, I'd have demoted spa into that, and put Imola, Baku, Suzuka and Jeddah in there
You down-graded Spa?! It's killed more drivers than Monaco, it's a planning nightmare, and almost guaranteed to rain on at least 1 of the three days they are there.
@@brandonsparks5786 This isn't about danger, it's about difficulty. It's far harder to complete a lap of Monaco and Singapore without crashing than at Spa, let alone setting a good time in the process. Imola, Baku and Suzuka are all just as hard as Spa in that regard as well
This feels like Ordinary Things talking about F1 haha I love it! Can't wait for you to blow up :)
That's one of the biggest compliments I could ever receive!
Me hating Albert Park due to how hard it is 😂😂
Your content is excellent, and I love your sense of humour. Keep it up!
"more likely to get hit by lance stroll than a wall" did him dirty
Bro Monza, the tample of speed, one of the most difficult racing circuit ever made
11 months later after the Qatar grand prix i see this video and damm its in the wrong spot
Qatar 2023 was easily the most difficult race this year
Monaco was already an aberration the very first time it was used as a race track. It need a fifth category all for itself, the Monaco line above «They race me so hard». 70 laps is not so bad when you remember that it originally had the same distance as the other races and need over 100 laps to complete.
It's weird for me how SPA was ranked one of the hardest. It's easy for me, maybe because it's my favorite track and might've raced on it double the amount of laps my next favorite track I raced at.
No walls in Melbourne? Please tell that to 2009's turn 5. Also turn 2 which could be a second wall of champions if it was a few metres closer in.
And I'd argue that Imola and Silverstone are Ce tyres at most - turns 9, 10 and 1 at the A1 ring being a serious challenge to get right, especially given the inability to make up lost time on a qualifying lap.
Personally I'd also say Hungary is more challenging than Spa, hence why the races there are always some of the most interesting.
Not putting Imola in the 1st tier is criminal. The track is hard to learn, extremely harder to master a pole time.
Turned out that Qatar was one of the most difficult tracks after all. With that heat. Why the fuck do we race in the desert?
You are highly mistaken if you consider Monza one of the easiest tracks. It holds some of the toughest braking zones of the calendar and taking those chicanes, the Ascari and the Parabolica with such low amounts of downforce is no joke. Definetely not the easiest track of the calendar
I LOVE spa, good to push my test cars in sims on that track
“Melbourne is a Mario Kart circuit” - cut to half the grid binning it in 2023 😂
Yeah i have been waiting! Love the content
im here after Qatar and i really wonder what this guy thinks after seeing that grand prix.
for me imola is one of the hardest to improve my laptime. I felt that anti-clockwise tracks are more challenging and also imola with F1 cars nowadays can be quite tricky to maintain good speed through the corners because there’ll be split seconds brake throttle playing with tricky grip as well
"it's got walls, it's got bumps, it's got this b*@#$*!?" 😂😂😂 Already my favourite F1 related channel
Awesome vid mate, suprised you don't have more views. Keep it up!
Thank you! And I will, I don't get much free time but videos will come out whenever I do!
Your watch is awesome
I like ur vibe ma boy
Putting Qatar in Mario Kart aged like my parents’ marriage
it's interesting Imola is ranked up there since that's my favorite track on Aesseto Corsa as a beginner
I dont think Spa is hard at all, I think the hardest track to drive for me is China
I think Spa may be one of those tracks where the difference is bigger on SIM compared to real life. You don't get much G from elevation changes behind your computer.
Suzuka is tough because of the S's. Especially Dunlop curve.
You should rate every track reversed, so spa would be the Airport for Mercedes, Red Bull, etc. Airways
I almost agree everything. But I think: Canada and RedBullRing is Mario Kart. Barcelona, Silverstone and Suzuka go to "C3 Tyres"
canada is very difficult imo
Looking back at this after the 2023 season is complete is really interesting.
When it comes to Suzuka, I think that it's the circuit that's most affected by wheel vs. Controller, Especially with the Ss at the start of the lap. That complex is a nightmare of controller due to the lack of precision but is almost trivial on a wheel.
Spa is the only one of these tracks that I've driven in real life, definitely deserves it's spot in this ranking but it's a lot of fun
Bros content is better than currently wtf1 massive congrats
I’d say Monaco is more like flying a jet fighter through a shopping center.
This is nonsense. There's no such thing as a difficult track. The only thing that can prevent you (yes you: youtube user and sub-F1 tier driver) from getting pole on any track is the competition you are against. If it's a blind grandmother with a wooden leg, navigating via clicks in each ear, pole in Monaco is yours for the taking. If it's Verstappen in an RB19, you won't get pole on an oval in a month of Sundays.
Love this NakeyJakey setup even more with F1 being the subject. Good work dude. New sub here 🫡
Maybe I should get the spacehopper and complete the look?
@Mr V's Garage 100%. If I didn't have a face for radio I'd be doing it myself, but I prefer to hide 🤣
No need to hide! I've got the hairline of a vampire and yet here I am!
Suzuka should be on top without doubt and For Singapore with new layout I’m not sure it should be on top but the rest you nailed it, great video🙌
Singapore by the weather itself is the most taxing track on the calendar. The same track in Europe would have been a pretty good experience, but heat and humidity just pushes it on the top
31c is Hot? In south Spain is common to get to 40, 45 and even above, 31 is a chill september day here
@@albertotrigosbueno5547 lol... You take a 2hr jog in 31c 80% humidity and come back here to report
@@thecompanioncube4211 i've been in dominican republic i know what It is, 45 is way worse trust me and the wind is just like a blower and I've seen 35 at 80 or above humidity in santo domingo, you don't know what 45c is with the Wind coming from the Sáhara, the Wind is just disgusting
@@albertotrigosbueno5547 dude... No one is saying there is no other place hotter than Singapore. Why the heck are you starting a dick measuring contest here.
Nice video! Hope you provide us with more of these the coming months to keep the F1 content flowing.
... Yes, I'm already dreading the long winter without race weekends. Don't judge me...
Winter is the time when the wieeeerd videos will start to come out, don't worry ;)
I would move Imola down one category and Baku up one category
I’m yet to watch this video but would guess Singapore is the hardest due to temperature, street track & number of tight corners
Thing about Vegas is, they're going to be running it at night. LATE at night. In SEPTEMBER. And it gets COLD out there at night.
Imagine the heat and humidity of Singapore, and flip it to the opposite extreme (very cold, very dry). That's what's on tap in Sin City.
The drivers will be cozy in their seats. Trust me. They're pretty much in heated seats in there
@@thecompanioncube4211 It's warm in ANY racing cockpit.
But what of the spectators and pit crew? And most importantly, what of the equipment?
This could turn out to be the coldest race F1 has run in a WHILE. And extreme shifts in temperature tend to make things crack.
@@ToABrighterFuture didn't know we were including external factors other than driver experience into judging the race track difficulty. Fair enough point though. We'll see how that race goes
15:51.
Pretty sure kimi said something along the lines of "first few corners are good then the rest is shit".
Have to say Monaco is the hardest for me to set competitive, consistent times. Oh, and Baku, that fast hard hitting tight chicane.
Omg, me and him have the same thought about bahrain HAHA