Something I hear/read a lot is "you have to have a good setup". New racers should ignore this (for now) and focus on the fundamentals of racing technique with the cars default setup. Improving on the basics will gain you more time than changing a car setup will... that is until the new sim racer has their lap-times consistent and can't make anymore gains. Then start with setup basics, at first just balancing tyre temps/pressure, and wing angle (if applicable).
@@EhPlusSimRacing And to expand on this, if you are going to make setup changes, do one at a time. Don't adjust your roll bar, camber, and toe all at the same time, as you don't know what is effecting what? Do one at a time, then bring it all together. Then its just a case of tweaking what you have. But yes your original point is spot on. Forget about setups until you know how to modulate the throttle and brakes, and how to hit apex's etc.
Find a track you like that’s in the rotation you want to race online in. Find a car that you can drive flat out fast and that feels “slow” to you. Practice that track and that car. Start with sticky tires and get your lap times as low as possible. Then switch to a less sticky tire and work that one the same way. When you’ve mastered that car either add PP and make it faster or bump up to a faster car and do it all over. This helps me on an event or track I’m struggling with.
i usually only have 2 advices: 1. Slow in Fast out - this is the biggest flaw most newbies have in the way they approach a lap. 2. Stop doing laps on your own and get yourself into races, all kinds of races, thats where you'll get real experience in the thick of things.
Totally agree, watching how the faster drivers enter corners and trail braking helped me build more confidence when I attack them. Also, having a chase on your hands will help with concentration, at least it was in my case.
I'm guilty of this, so many glorious passes by my motorsport heroes were accomplished with late braking. Early braking is a really hard habit to break. (sorry, I love puns)
My tip: race your own race meaning don't let other cars intimidate you or throw you off your rhythm and groove. It takes poise to remain consistent. This was one of my main issues as I would race fast but as soon as a car started creeping up behind me I would get nervous and lose Control. To combat this. I simply ignore the fact that there are cars around me and I raise my race. It's me against the track. (Of course maintain proper etiquette and don't ram the other drivers if you know what I mean.
My training technique? (you asked) Enter into a hotlap mode so I can chase my ghost, slowly whittle another 0.05 or better after a few laps, then watch my times steadily decrease as I try to push. Eventually at about the 1-hour mark, I log off in frustration and play a different title. Which doesn't help moving from simcade to sim, or one sim to another , so I decide to play world of warships and blow up the things I cannot pass.
i made a 1v1 "mini game" to practice racecraft with my friend. the ruleset is essentially a touge style "cat and mouse" game with a points system. after some adjustments, it made for a really fun way to get a lot of practice in very little time as we were essentially getting rapid fire, back to back battles in various parts of the selected track that would award points to yourself or your opponent depending on what you can get right and what mistakes you might make.
I started sim racing 2 years ago, acc. Was incredibly difficult at the beginning, getting 3 stars on monza took me almost 2 days. Now I’m constantly under 1:50 and even got into the 1:48s a few times. Practice really does help, understanding what the car was doing through the wheel was massive learning curve. Not like a controller where you can just smash accelerate and brake worry free, nice smooth inputs seems key. I still leave the racing line on even though. Watching TH-cam videos helped a lot, like this one 👍🏻 I can only speak for acc but yeah practice and the “drive” to go faster has helped me.
My advice. Learn a new of track in your favourite car. Learn a new car on your favourite track. And if you can learn a new track in an open wheeler you will find it easier to spot apexes etc.
Some more advanced advice is to use training tools. There are a few services which offers you telemetry data recorded by really quick drivers. You can compare them with your on data and you can figure it out on your own what you can do to be quicker. For example I turned out that my braking point, my minimum speed and the steering inputs are generally similar to the alien time, but I'm slowing the car down too quickly due to my poor trail braking skills. And it costs like 6 euros per months and a few hours weekly. Use every option to get quicker because we have every possibility to learn.
Those are really good tips. When im practicing I'll experiment with what gears I should be in on a turn. Also trying to take those same turns on different angles and different gears. Also DO Not use the racing line imo it will make your slower. Go slow at first you will naturally figure out the flow of the track after a few pace laps. Someone also mentioned starting at the back of the pack in a race so avoid collisions. I did this when I started my career in iracing but learned you have to be comfortable with other drivers around you. The best thing for me at least is to join a practice session server if your in iracing you dont have to worry about losing your IR or SR if you crash your crash just keep getting at it.
what helped me a lot, and honestly I'm kinda missing it as point 11: know what you want to practice. A turn combination or exit of a corner, or just how to exit from the pits (what might be super helpful during a longer race). personally I think that after watching the replays it can be clear what has to be improved on a lap. and that needs to be practices and improved. don't just make laps after laps because if ppl memorize something incorrect, it's a lot of work (any even more practiving) to fix it, after it has been realized that by that time it's just wrong what has been done.
I mainly play ACC in LFM. My first tip for practice is to try to find enjoyment in hotlaping. If you learn to love it, it is way easier to learn new tracks and develop your skills on the tracks that you already know. Second tip is to learn tracks while developing your setup. It is very rewarding to see that you are faster and faster with each change.
I was always told to start from the back when starting out but for me it was bad advice. This put me with drivers that crashed out more often than not, I always qualify the best I can, this will put your car around other drivers at your level in the pack giving you a better chance of survival.
Practicing a lot is a method I've lived by for a while, sure it's not the most technical advice in the world, but when someone asks you how to get better, you can't just explain the fundamentals of every single racing technique, from what I've found, the more time you put into something the more you get out of it, but learning should always be done at the same time, which is why this video is great for beginners, I just don't think practice is terrible advice
Nooooo, never use the road surface for braking points. Use track features that aren't going to move. I've known race drivers using specific RV's in America to mark their braking point, because, for that weekend, it ain't gonna move.
@EikeSky in "GENERAL". It gives you a "GENERAL" idea where to be on track and where to brake. This help for Noobs. If you have "general" fundimentals on how to drive a track, this tip is of little use.
@@DeadMTrigger yup, sorry, long day, read as though that's something you should take forward, and track markings change. I understand your point now, sorry.
The best thing I did was getting a telemetry overlay app. I use Racelab, but I think there are others. Know yours inputs is key, but I never managed to study my telemetry properly (do laps, go to the telemetry, analyse, go back to do more laps). With the telemetry in real time on screen I could see that my trail braking was awful (not trailing whatsoever, almost on/off only), and adjust my foot force to be smoother. Experimenting and seeing the result in real time was the only way I could work on creating the muscle memory. It’s not great yet hehe.. but much much better.
I was going to say this, too. I use Simhub but any real time Telemetry program would do I'm sure. The ability while practicing to take a corner, say "I didn't do that well, and I think X was the reason", then look over at the data and confirm that has been instrumental. And vice versa if you do it well. Like you mentioned, I realized how off I really was on my trail braking. Same with better throttle control on corner exit. That being said, the other thing I remind myself of constantly is directly the opposite of above when actually racing. Practice time is over. Don't be looking at the data. Don't be chasing the Delta. As a pilot they teach you "Keep your head out of the cockpit and just fly the plane", especially in an emergency situation. Same goes for racing. Learn to clearly separate Practice time, and Race time.
My two questions would be: 1. How do you prepare for a realistic/long race distance? Consistency, sure. But how do you actually increase your consistency? How would you train consistency for a 1h race? My max. amount of race length I can do (against the AI) before losing focus completely is 40 minutes. 2. How to deal with frustration that comes from restarting a race for the 50x time because of the AI bumping you off track, or you notice halfway through the race that your chosen AI level was too low and you're outpacing anyone? Are there any tips you can do to cope with these kind of situations so you don't get frustrated and let your simrig collect dust for months until you decide to give it another shot? :)
My answers would be: 1.1 Drive against AI, Friends/Mates, do longruns and double stints (in AC i use the trackday mode to simulate other cars around me without needing 60 AI cars in a race). 1.2 To increas constistency you have to do nearly the exact same things as the other laps. Try to drive calm (if you make a mistake dont think about it long think "well this was bad, i dont make this mistake again now that i know this can happen") and use referece points in your car. If your track reference and the car referece are overlapping brake f. ex. But a fair bit of practice helps (also a steady setup, no moving bits which should not move). 1.3 After learning the track drive your stint time alone (no other cars around so you can lap really consistent but dont try to push if you have +0,5 on the clock in endurance races this margin doesnt really matter). The most important thing to not loose focus is to stay calm, try to listen to the car (maybe turn the music off) and think about the next section of the track (after a while you are so in focus you dont see something other than your car, the track and the other cars). After that driving against AI but if there is a chance in something like the trackday mode in AC because racestarts are different. 2.1 If there is a chance use something like the trackday AC mode and start last. Survive the first corners and then work your way up. 2.2 Invest one time to find the correct AI streght and then tweak it as you want it (for overtakes slightly lower, for defense slightly higher, for racing the median). What also helps is driving in Races against humans (short and long so you learn both). I dont know how much that helps but i hope there is something good amongst my points
What helped me a lot to get my LFM Licence at Misano was a very in-depth trackguide from Nils Naujoks, wo rally got into every Detail of every corner. I practiced with this Sektor by Sektor and got my licence after 2 hours on a track I hated before. So: Shoutout to Nils😊
Controversial, but I would also add paying for training. The likes of Apex Racing and VRS offer 1-2-1 or group training with a pro. It won't make you as fast as them in a moment, but it's eye opening to spend some time with them and understand how they approach laps and racing against others. The real time feedback is where the value sits over watching tutorials. Another good video guys, cheers :)
Side note: if you have any chance, try VR. It is so much more intuitive when you have 3D vision in a 1:1 world scale... You will immediately drive better because you start to act like in real life.
It took me TWO years of everyday playing to get proficient with a stick shift, and I have driven those for 30 years. Practice does indeed play a part BUT my best advice is to pick a slow opponent and follow him around the track to learn the lines. My cornering advice: look for the 50 sign and slam on the brakes haha! Fine tune that on the next few laps.
The best advice for beginners is just play the game lol. Everyone has their own way of learning a track, for some turning on the racing line for a few laps works, others will say turn it off all together and just take the laps slowly at first. Personally I like doing time trials with ghost active, I’ll start with a slow lap to get the lay of the track, then I’ll start looking for braking points on the second lap, by the third lap I try pushing my braking points further usually about 10-20 meters till I can’t stop the car and get around the corner anymore that’s when I’ll push it back like 10 meters to get the sweet spot. It usually takes me like 7-10 laps to learn a track just doing time trials. I use to use the racing line to “learn” new tracks but I found it distracting since it almost never shows you the optimal racing line and I found myself not paying attention to braking points, so now I just turn it off completely.
Great technique I know is to go on with fully loaded fuel and going like in quali. Then when you are going with quali load of fuel or just less fuel you will see how faster you are than before. I was able to go down even half a second on the same setup with this technique :D
a note of caution when using Ai to learn a track: in some sims the Ai does not behave how a race driver would, they use brakes in an odd way (you can see them flicker) instead of modulating throttle in medium to high speed turns, they won't have the same tyre temps as you (they can get up to race pace right away), and sometimes Ai operates on a different set of physics code than your car. Another thing to consider is that some sims have a difficulty scale that exceeds 100, so it's not a percentage figure. In raceroom for example, it goes from 80 to 120, where 110 would be approaching realistic pace. In AC it is a percentage scale, but I find the Ai still isn't fast enough in some cars and too fast in others, it lacks constancy.
It’s still useful for learning a new track cause you’ll see where the ai is braking and accelerating so you’ll learn your braking points faster than on your own and you don’t risk completely missing one and wiping someone out online. It’s still worth racing the ai but like you said it won’t be anything like how a real player acts so in a race situation it’ll be a new experience but atleast you’ll have a good clue of what your doing instead of going in blind and not realizing Turn 1 is a hard braking zone and you just plow into everyone lol
I disagree. That's how I learn a new track. You just have to be disciplined with it. I use it for racing lines only and find my own braking markers. It's no different than following ai or looking for tyre marks on herb and rubber deposits on tracks. I use it maybe for 30 minutes and turn it off. The iracing ai line is particularly useful. It taught me how to trail brake. I had heard of the concept but never realized what it meant.
Yeah I found that my times have gotten better when the racing line is on but I don’t follow it; I like to use it as a reference for my own lines and I use my own visual markers for braking. But I think the line is useful for people that don’t know racing lines around certain corners
@@KoalaBear92 well, the ideal racing line won't change whether you drive with a flying stick, a wheel or controller.. we all started with controllers on Forza or Gran Turismo and you can still enjoy this hobby with one... Some are even very quick but if you can, a wheel is always going to be better
The best way to learn a track is in my opinion the tutorial in Gran Turismo. Sector by sector the teach you how to race the track. I miss that in all the sims I have (and I have ‘m all except iRacing).
Well since its a sim and not a real car you should find the track limits for each corner by literally going over the track limits lol. Then dial it back. Some corners do better with late braking others with earlier. Also have fun doing it, don't turn it in some hobby that feels like work just to gain a second or two. 😄
"Practice how you want to race" "Don't be afraid to wreck, it's a sim" I have many nuggets of wisdom but these 2 are by far the most important to this video
The advices of Walter Röhrl helped me: 1. The entry should mostly be the slowest part of a corner. 2. Tyres are most efficient while braking/accelerating as straight as possible or carrying speed through corners 3. The biggest secret of driving fast is steering as little as needed. And another simple advice to get up to speed: Be always on the limit😎
I think the issue is a lot of newbies just want to get some tips and magically become faster, that's not how it works at all, for all newbies out there: Even if someone really wants to explain it to you, you just wont get any faster from the night to the morning, you need to get obsessed with it, look at the small details, analyze what works and what not, try, fail, and repeat, dream with it, get angry with it, get happy with it, get frustrated with it, get commited with it, but never stop having fun with it, that is the correct approach, theory only explains you the logical and tangible things, but as long as your body doesn't get the feeling, you'll never get faster.
I am sorta new sorta not depending on what you consider starting. I am decently quick (console player mainly on gt7) but i have a habit of making a major mistake at least once every race. I think i have to learn how to chill out and stop pushing/overdriving the whole race.
I turn on “Driving Line” and do about five practice laps. Then I do five laps against AI and still keep the driving line on. Then I do several races with driving line on. Two or three days later I turn the driving line off and it takes me a race or two to be 99% comfortable with the new track.
I’m new to sim racing which a wheel and its hard. What happened to me in f1 23 is happening to me in Forza Motorsport 8. That problem is me always being in last place miles from the other racers. This is the most demoralizing thing I’ve ever done
For the most part it’s accurate in slow speed corners, but in high down force cars or high speed corners it will always usually suggest a gear or two lower than you should. So while it’s useful it’s still better to experiment with different gears in every corner if you wanna find the most time.
Its just like any other sport. You have to have the god given talent to work with. My first sim was all the way back to NR2003. I have always been average at best despite how much practice research etc. If everyone could practice there way into a high level the world would be full of Dale Earnhardt's and Mario Andretti's which would make it hard to sell tickets
Best tip, more than all of these: Get a seat which remains static at all times. If your chair moves, your muscle memory becomes not just wrong but genuinely harmful to your consistency, and that leads to you getting frustrated and failing to learn. Attach the seat to the same thing as the pedals, and don't move their relative position. (Or, put down some masking tape on the floor to reset your chair each time if this is impossible)
Use an open wheeler if you want to learn the track faster, The Caterham is a good little car, Try use a less powerful open wheeler, I only noticed it about a year ago, Using open wheelers let you learn the track faster, Or it did with me, Also using AI is a great way with corner speeds... If you not having good races, Take a break Go on Euro Truck sim, lol... Nor practice do make perfect but if you mad from messing up practice can be your enemy, I like learning off faster sim racers myself, To get faster than the faster dude than me... But fair play you put some good advice, Reminded me to start using my tablet for notes..... Also make sure you got a few fans before you jumpp into a race, Nothing worse than starting a sweat out under pressure, I hate being hot, I gets agitated as I suffer with anxiety as it is, Reason I began Sim Racing was to see if it would help with the CPTSD I suffer with, The CPTSD I suffer with is not going to go away see, It is what it is, So if anyone suffering mental health issue, Try Sim Racing, It don't always help, But it gives you a sense of accomplishment when you get close to record times... Yeah some good advice bro....
To state „You need more seat time.“ doesn’t mean „Practice more of the same.“ But in the end, nothing beats more seat time. Of course you have to know how to practice. No one ever got good on a piano by just pressing piano keys. Where exactly were you a champion, I can’t seem to find anything on you other than some carting 10 years back…
"Telling someone to practice is the absolute worst advice you can give." "Here is how to practice." Anyone else flaberghasted by the logic here? Seems like just a click-bait title, he should have just said, "This is how I practice" without criticizing the act of practicing...
None of this stuff will make you faster than just a novice. These are literally just tips about learning the basics of a track... The only good way is telemetry and practice.
im sorry this is click bait practice more is an absolute FACT! just do more of it is only ever good advice! thinking you can be max verstappen WITHOUT practice is idiotic!
Good tips! 😎 A good one is to learn racing fundamentals from real racing drivers that also sim race. If you are Portuguese or Brazilian check Victor Genz. In English Driver 61.
What is the best advice you have to improve in simracing?
Something I hear/read a lot is "you have to have a good setup". New racers should ignore this (for now) and focus on the fundamentals of racing technique with the cars default setup. Improving on the basics will gain you more time than changing a car setup will... that is until the new sim racer has their lap-times consistent and can't make anymore gains. Then start with setup basics, at first just balancing tyre temps/pressure, and wing angle (if applicable).
easy answer: Talent.
Real advice: You are probably overdriving the car, try to go a bit slower into the corner.
Don't watch and learn from Jimmy Broadbent.
@@EhPlusSimRacing And to expand on this, if you are going to make setup changes, do one at a time. Don't adjust your roll bar, camber, and toe all at the same time, as you don't know what is effecting what? Do one at a time, then bring it all together. Then its just a case of tweaking what you have.
But yes your original point is spot on. Forget about setups until you know how to modulate the throttle and brakes, and how to hit apex's etc.
Find a track you like that’s in the rotation you want to race online in. Find a car that you can drive flat out fast and that feels “slow” to you. Practice that track and that car. Start with sticky tires and get your lap times as low as possible. Then switch to a less sticky tire and work that one the same way. When you’ve mastered that car either add PP and make it faster or bump up to a faster car and do it all over. This helps me on an event or track I’m struggling with.
i usually only have 2 advices:
1. Slow in Fast out - this is the biggest flaw most newbies have in the way they approach a lap.
2. Stop doing laps on your own and get yourself into races, all kinds of races, thats where you'll get real experience in the thick of things.
Totally agree, watching how the faster drivers enter corners and trail braking helped me build more confidence when I attack them. Also, having a chase on your hands will help with concentration, at least it was in my case.
I agree. Once you have learned a track that you dont know on time trial or practice, then go and race its way better to do it like that
I'm guilty of this, so many glorious passes by my motorsport heroes were accomplished with late braking.
Early braking is a really hard habit to break. (sorry, I love puns)
If only your own ghost
My tip: race your own race meaning don't let other cars intimidate you or throw you off your rhythm and groove. It takes poise to remain consistent. This was one of my main issues as I would race fast but as soon as a car started creeping up behind me I would get nervous and lose Control. To combat this. I simply ignore the fact that there are cars around me and I raise my race. It's me against the track. (Of course maintain proper etiquette and don't ram the other drivers if you know what I mean.
Same
My training technique? (you asked)
Enter into a hotlap mode so I can chase my ghost, slowly whittle another 0.05 or better after a few laps, then watch my times steadily decrease as I try to push.
Eventually at about the 1-hour mark, I log off in frustration and play a different title. Which doesn't help moving from simcade to sim, or one sim to another , so I decide to play world of warships and blow up the things I cannot pass.
@@EdBert this is me in a nutshell 😂
i made a 1v1 "mini game" to practice racecraft with my friend. the ruleset is essentially a touge style "cat and mouse" game with a points system. after some adjustments, it made for a really fun way to get a lot of practice in very little time as we were essentially getting rapid fire, back to back battles in various parts of the selected track that would award points to yourself or your opponent depending on what you can get right and what mistakes you might make.
I started sim racing 2 years ago, acc. Was incredibly difficult at the beginning, getting 3 stars on monza took me almost 2 days. Now I’m constantly under 1:50 and even got into the 1:48s a few times.
Practice really does help, understanding what the car was doing through the wheel was massive learning curve. Not like a controller where you can just smash accelerate and brake worry free, nice smooth inputs seems key.
I still leave the racing line on even though.
Watching TH-cam videos helped a lot, like this one 👍🏻
I can only speak for acc but yeah practice and the “drive” to go faster has helped me.
Practice does NOT make perfect, in fact bad practice reinforces bad habits. Perfect practice makes perfect.
Practice makes progress :)
My advice.
Learn a new of track in your favourite car.
Learn a new car on your favourite track.
And if you can learn a new track in an open wheeler you will find it easier to spot apexes etc.
Some more advanced advice is to use training tools. There are a few services which offers you telemetry data recorded by really quick drivers. You can compare them with your on data and you can figure it out on your own what you can do to be quicker. For example I turned out that my braking point, my minimum speed and the steering inputs are generally similar to the alien time, but I'm slowing the car down too quickly due to my poor trail braking skills. And it costs like 6 euros per months and a few hours weekly. Use every option to get quicker because we have every possibility to learn.
Those are really good tips. When im practicing I'll experiment with what gears I should be in on a turn. Also trying to take those same turns on different angles and different gears. Also DO Not use the racing line imo it will make your slower. Go slow at first you will naturally figure out the flow of the track after a few pace laps. Someone also mentioned starting at the back of the pack in a race so avoid collisions. I did this when I started my career in iracing but learned you have to be comfortable with other drivers around you. The best thing for me at least is to join a practice session server if your in iracing you dont have to worry about losing your IR or SR if you crash your crash just keep getting at it.
what helped me a lot, and honestly I'm kinda missing it as point 11: know what you want to practice. A turn combination or exit of a corner, or just how to exit from the pits (what might be super helpful during a longer race). personally I think that after watching the replays it can be clear what has to be improved on a lap. and that needs to be practices and improved.
don't just make laps after laps because if ppl memorize something incorrect, it's a lot of work (any even more practiving) to fix it, after it has been realized that by that time it's just wrong what has been done.
I mainly play ACC in LFM. My first tip for practice is to try to find enjoyment in hotlaping. If you learn to love it, it is way easier to learn new tracks and develop your skills on the tracks that you already know. Second tip is to learn tracks while developing your setup. It is very rewarding to see that you are faster and faster with each change.
I was always told to start from the back when starting out but for me it was bad advice. This put me with drivers that crashed out more often than not, I always qualify the best I can, this will put your car around other drivers at your level in the pack giving you a better chance of survival.
Practicing a lot is a method I've lived by for a while, sure it's not the most technical advice in the world, but when someone asks you how to get better, you can't just explain the fundamentals of every single racing technique, from what I've found, the more time you put into something the more you get out of it, but learning should always be done at the same time, which is why this video is great for beginners, I just don't think practice is terrible advice
Also look at the tire marks on the track. It will give you general idea of the racing line and braking points.
Nooooo, never use the road surface for braking points. Use track features that aren't going to move. I've known race drivers using specific RV's in America to mark their braking point, because, for that weekend, it ain't gonna move.
@EikeSky in "GENERAL". It gives you a "GENERAL" idea where to be on track and where to brake. This help for Noobs. If you have "general" fundimentals on how to drive a track, this tip is of little use.
@@DeadMTrigger yup, sorry, long day, read as though that's something you should take forward, and track markings change. I understand your point now, sorry.
Just drive faster- Jimmy Broadbent
The best thing I did was getting a telemetry overlay app. I use Racelab, but I think there are others. Know yours inputs is key, but I never managed to study my telemetry properly (do laps, go to the telemetry, analyse, go back to do more laps). With the telemetry in real time on screen I could see that my trail braking was awful (not trailing whatsoever, almost on/off only), and adjust my foot force to be smoother. Experimenting and seeing the result in real time was the only way I could work on creating the muscle memory. It’s not great yet hehe.. but much much better.
I was going to say this, too. I use Simhub but any real time Telemetry program would do I'm sure. The ability while practicing to take a corner, say "I didn't do that well, and I think X was the reason", then look over at the data and confirm that has been instrumental. And vice versa if you do it well. Like you mentioned, I realized how off I really was on my trail braking. Same with better throttle control on corner exit.
That being said, the other thing I remind myself of constantly is directly the opposite of above when actually racing. Practice time is over. Don't be looking at the data. Don't be chasing the Delta. As a pilot they teach you "Keep your head out of the cockpit and just fly the plane", especially in an emergency situation. Same goes for racing. Learn to clearly separate Practice time, and Race time.
It's crazy how I can see it in my in game graph in ACC when I have watched a guide video on YT. This Video gave me another spike up. Thanks.
My two questions would be:
1.
How do you prepare for a realistic/long race distance?
Consistency, sure. But how do you actually increase your consistency?
How would you train consistency for a 1h race?
My max. amount of race length I can do (against the AI) before losing focus completely is 40 minutes.
2.
How to deal with frustration that comes from restarting a race for the 50x time because of the AI bumping you off track, or you notice halfway through the race that your chosen AI level was too low and you're outpacing anyone?
Are there any tips you can do to cope with these kind of situations so you don't get frustrated and let your simrig collect dust for months until you decide to give it another shot?
:)
My answers would be:
1.1
Drive against AI, Friends/Mates, do longruns and double stints (in AC i use the trackday mode to simulate other cars around me without needing 60 AI cars in a race).
1.2
To increas constistency you have to do nearly the exact same things as the other laps. Try to drive calm (if you make a mistake dont think about it long think "well this was bad, i dont make this mistake again now that i know this can happen") and use referece points in your car. If your track reference and the car referece are overlapping brake f. ex. But a fair bit of practice helps (also a steady setup, no moving bits which should not move).
1.3
After learning the track drive your stint time alone (no other cars around so you can lap really consistent but dont try to push if you have +0,5 on the clock in endurance races this margin doesnt really matter). The most important thing to not loose focus is to stay calm, try to listen to the car (maybe turn the music off) and think about the next section of the track (after a while you are so in focus you dont see something other than your car, the track and the other cars).
After that driving against AI but if there is a chance in something like the trackday mode in AC because racestarts are different.
2.1
If there is a chance use something like the trackday AC mode and start last. Survive the first corners and then work your way up.
2.2
Invest one time to find the correct AI streght and then tweak it as you want it (for overtakes slightly lower, for defense slightly higher, for racing the median). What also helps is driving in Races against humans (short and long so you learn both).
I dont know how much that helps but i hope there is something good amongst my points
What helped me a lot to get my LFM Licence at Misano was a very in-depth trackguide from Nils Naujoks, wo rally got into every Detail of every corner. I practiced with this Sektor by Sektor and got my licence after 2 hours on a track I hated before. So: Shoutout to Nils😊
1. Slow in, fast out 2. Focus on areas you are losing time to others in races
Try watching other drivers on this platform for instance. Hot laps are races can give real insights on alternative lines and good overtaking spots
Controversial, but I would also add paying for training. The likes of Apex Racing and VRS offer 1-2-1 or group training with a pro. It won't make you as fast as them in a moment, but it's eye opening to spend some time with them and understand how they approach laps and racing against others. The real time feedback is where the value sits over watching tutorials.
Another good video guys, cheers :)
Side note: if you have any chance, try VR. It is so much more intuitive when you have 3D vision in a 1:1 world scale... You will immediately drive better because you start to act like in real life.
It took me TWO years of everyday playing to get proficient with a stick shift, and I have driven those for 30 years. Practice does indeed play a part BUT my best advice is to pick a slow opponent and follow him around the track to learn the lines. My cornering advice: look for the 50 sign and slam on the brakes haha! Fine tune that on the next few laps.
0:36 Nice reference to the Empty Box video
The best advice for beginners is just play the game lol. Everyone has their own way of learning a track, for some turning on the racing line for a few laps works, others will say turn it off all together and just take the laps slowly at first. Personally I like doing time trials with ghost active, I’ll start with a slow lap to get the lay of the track, then I’ll start looking for braking points on the second lap, by the third lap I try pushing my braking points further usually about 10-20 meters till I can’t stop the car and get around the corner anymore that’s when I’ll push it back like 10 meters to get the sweet spot. It usually takes me like 7-10 laps to learn a track just doing time trials. I use to use the racing line to “learn” new tracks but I found it distracting since it almost never shows you the optimal racing line and I found myself not paying attention to braking points, so now I just turn it off completely.
This may be the best advice. Just spend some time having fun, if it's not fun there is no motivation to spend your precious free time on it.
Great technique I know is to go on with fully loaded fuel and going like in quali. Then when you are going with quali load of fuel or just less fuel you will see how faster you are than before. I was able to go down even half a second on the same setup with this technique :D
great video it’s really good to get more knowledge about this stuff
a note of caution when using Ai to learn a track: in some sims the Ai does not behave how a race driver would, they use brakes in an odd way (you can see them flicker) instead of modulating throttle in medium to high speed turns, they won't have the same tyre temps as you (they can get up to race pace right away), and sometimes Ai operates on a different set of physics code than your car. Another thing to consider is that some sims have a difficulty scale that exceeds 100, so it's not a percentage figure. In raceroom for example, it goes from 80 to 120, where 110 would be approaching realistic pace. In AC it is a percentage scale, but I find the Ai still isn't fast enough in some cars and too fast in others, it lacks constancy.
It’s still useful for learning a new track cause you’ll see where the ai is braking and accelerating so you’ll learn your braking points faster than on your own and you don’t risk completely missing one and wiping someone out online. It’s still worth racing the ai but like you said it won’t be anything like how a real player acts so in a race situation it’ll be a new experience but atleast you’ll have a good clue of what your doing instead of going in blind and not realizing Turn 1 is a hard braking zone and you just plow into everyone lol
@@dbzcollector9963 if a person doesn't know where the braze zone is, they should not be racing online. Learn the track first, race Ai, then go online.
@@dbzcollector9963 why not just use the line? Bro, line is a great thing all games have.
The first tip I have for any new player: TURN OFF THE RACING LINE
I disagree. That's how I learn a new track. You just have to be disciplined with it. I use it for racing lines only and find my own braking markers. It's no different than following ai or looking for tyre marks on herb and rubber deposits on tracks. I use it maybe for 30 minutes and turn it off. The iracing ai line is particularly useful. It taught me how to trail brake. I had heard of the concept but never realized what it meant.
Yeah I found that my times have gotten better when the racing line is on but I don’t follow it; I like to use it as a reference for my own lines and I use my own visual markers for braking. But I think the line is useful for people that don’t know racing lines around certain corners
@@dcode1000 exactly. Some racing lines can be complex like a double apex. Or surtees at brands hatch.
@@KoalaBear92 well, the ideal racing line won't change whether you drive with a flying stick, a wheel or controller.. we all started with controllers on Forza or Gran Turismo and you can still enjoy this hobby with one... Some are even very quick but if you can, a wheel is always going to be better
I use the racing line for tracks that are completely new to me. Only for about 5-10 laps though.
The best way to learn a track is in my opinion the tutorial in Gran Turismo. Sector by sector the teach you how to race the track.
I miss that in all the sims I have (and I have ‘m all except iRacing).
Well since its a sim and not a real car you should find the track limits for each corner by literally going over the track limits lol. Then dial it back. Some corners do better with late braking others with earlier. Also have fun doing it, don't turn it in some hobby that feels like work just to gain a second or two. 😄
Hey, if you're going to reference another youtube video in yours, maybe leave a link in the description.
"Practice how you want to race"
"Don't be afraid to wreck, it's a sim"
I have many nuggets of wisdom but these 2 are by far the most important to this video
The advices of Walter Röhrl helped me:
1. The entry should mostly be the slowest part of a corner.
2. Tyres are most efficient while braking/accelerating as straight as possible or carrying speed through corners
3. The biggest secret of driving fast is steering as little as needed.
And another simple advice to get up to speed: Be always on the limit😎
I think the issue is a lot of newbies just want to get some tips and magically become faster, that's not how it works at all, for all newbies out there: Even if someone really wants to explain it to you, you just wont get any faster from the night to the morning, you need to get obsessed with it, look at the small details, analyze what works and what not, try, fail, and repeat, dream with it, get angry with it, get happy with it, get frustrated with it, get commited with it, but never stop having fun with it, that is the correct approach, theory only explains you the logical and tangible things, but as long as your body doesn't get the feeling, you'll never get faster.
I am sorta new sorta not depending on what you consider starting. I am decently quick (console player mainly on gt7) but i have a habit of making a major mistake at least once every race. I think i have to learn how to chill out and stop pushing/overdriving the whole race.
I like to see how fast I can take a corner on practice, evan if I crash. Then I know my limits on that particular piece.
I turn on “Driving Line” and do about five practice laps. Then I do five laps against AI and still keep the driving line on. Then I do several races with driving line on. Two or three days later I turn the driving line off and it takes me a race or two to be 99% comfortable with the new track.
I’m new to sim racing which a wheel and its hard. What happened to me in f1 23 is happening to me in Forza Motorsport 8. That problem is me always being in last place miles from the other racers. This is the most demoralizing thing I’ve ever done
So, basically less racing seat and more school bench?? 😅
How's numbering corner's 1-6 gonna help on the Nordscheife? 🤔
Corner gear number is what I use. I just didn’t realise it was a system.
Yep, I like the way you think. Beautiful thinking brother. You're an intelligent driver. These tips are spot on, man.👌
How hard would it be for an old school nfs player to get into true sim racing?
Had to be said. Thank u
Can I generally trust the suggested gears in GT7? For me those have been very helpful
For the most part it’s accurate in slow speed corners, but in high down force cars or high speed corners it will always usually suggest a gear or two lower than you should. So while it’s useful it’s still better to experiment with different gears in every corner if you wanna find the most time.
What’s the game with the red f1 car?
Its just like any other sport. You have to have the god given talent to work with. My first sim was all the way back to NR2003. I have always been average at best despite how much practice research etc. If everyone could practice there way into a high level the world would be full of Dale Earnhardt's and Mario Andretti's which would make it hard to sell tickets
Best tip, more than all of these: Get a seat which remains static at all times. If your chair moves, your muscle memory becomes not just wrong but genuinely harmful to your consistency, and that leads to you getting frustrated and failing to learn. Attach the seat to the same thing as the pedals, and don't move their relative position. (Or, put down some masking tape on the floor to reset your chair each time if this is impossible)
Use an open wheeler if you want to learn the track faster, The Caterham is a good little car, Try use a less powerful open wheeler, I only noticed it about a year ago, Using open wheelers let you learn the track faster, Or it did with me, Also using AI is a great way with corner speeds...
If you not having good races, Take a break Go on Euro Truck sim, lol...
Nor practice do make perfect but if you mad from messing up practice can be your enemy, I like learning off faster sim racers myself, To get faster than the faster dude than me...
But fair play you put some good advice, Reminded me to start using my tablet for notes.....
Also make sure you got a few fans before you jumpp into a race, Nothing worse than starting a sweat out under pressure, I hate being hot, I gets agitated as I suffer with anxiety as it is, Reason I began Sim Racing was to see if it would help with the CPTSD I suffer with, The CPTSD I suffer with is not going to go away see, It is what it is, So if anyone suffering mental health issue, Try Sim Racing, It don't always help, But it gives you a sense of accomplishment when you get close to record times...
Yeah some good advice bro....
Worst advice is to fight when you know the car behind is quicker. Let them pass if you are quicker you will pass them. Cream always rises to the top.
I see in the telemetry what corner is my Problem 😂
the best advice is to first ask, no demand, that Kunos put anti cheat software on ACC to prevent those using grip cheats from beating you.
Time for me is limited so an hour a day is perfect
Tell me you have wife and children without telling me
@@diegombittencourt all kids have left home I'm 51 but I have my own business
train more work tho when you have tryed what you just said, you can be super fast without traning for hours imo
Never listen to anybody in the rookie class. They’re there the same as you. Turn the driver audio down. Sometimes it’s hilarious though…
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To state „You need more seat time.“ doesn’t mean „Practice more of the same.“ But in the end, nothing beats more seat time. Of course you have to know how to practice. No one ever got good on a piano by just pressing piano keys. Where exactly were you a champion, I can’t seem to find anything on you other than some carting 10 years back…
@@F9109-r1e Yeah, that’s the „Duh“ I wanted to express 🤷🏻♂️🙂
i training as drunk, so when im sober i am much faster
"Telling someone to practice is the absolute worst advice you can give." "Here is how to practice."
Anyone else flaberghasted by the logic here? Seems like just a click-bait title, he should have just said,
"This is how I practice" without criticizing the act of practicing...
Not at all. It's not about simply practicing "more", it's about practicing correctly.
None of this stuff will make you faster than just a novice. These are literally just tips about learning the basics of a track... The only good way is telemetry and practice.
but to be fair, its mostly novices that are going to look for videos like this
I'm still a noob I started in November 2022 im currently 34th fastest in the world on ams2 on Bathurst with gt3 Porsche
im sorry
this is click bait
practice more is an absolute FACT! just do more of it is only ever good advice! thinking you can be max verstappen WITHOUT practice is idiotic!
Just practice less.
Is that a wig?
Just git gud
The best advice I have is stop spending 8 hours a day pretend racing - get a real track car and actually drive
Good tips! 😎 A good one is to learn racing fundamentals from real racing drivers that also sim race. If you are Portuguese or Brazilian check Victor Genz. In English Driver 61.
Well he has the talking part done
Practice more is bad advice? Don't listen to this guy