These Are The Hottest Small Electric SUVs On The Market! We Compare All Of Them
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- The electric small SUV segment is growing! We are back with more of the most talked about electric cars, putting them head to head in this review to figure out which is the one you should buy. We cover topics such as range, pricing, charging performance, driving performance, and interior feel. We hope you enjoy this video.
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TIMELINE
00:00:00 Introduction
00:07:00 Price
00:18:56 Range
00:27:19 Charging
00:39:47 Interior
01:01:35 Driving Dynamics
01:06:57 Final Thoughts
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Shame the Polstar 2 was not available.. otherwise nice pile of ev 's.. hopefully more brands will do more models in this affordable segment..
also very good point regarding getting now a used i-Pace that could have a great value..
Why do most of these EVs have a congested grill design like an ordinary car? Tesla, Lucid and Ionic seem to be the only ones that minimize that regular car and clumsy and unnecessary grill face look.
I am an Industrial Designer. If I’m designing these cars, I’d try to add a unique identity reflecting the unique electric engineering of the car.
@@TheHighlanderprime Maybe for cooling some components.. yeah you may say that BEV do not have engine but they still need radiators to cool the electrical parts or the battery pack specially in fast charging or in summer or other components that get hotter (invertors.. etc)
$200 for a lotto ticket to win a 80K EV...only one winner. Major profits here. You'll see a lot more of these raffles in the future, now that gambling is legal everywhere.
Climate Action Network - what a scam. I'll donate if one of the many climate fantasy predictions from climate conspiracy theorists comes true - the whole climate movement is a bunch of alarmist charlatans. We can't even accurately predict the weather a few weeks out, get out of here with this climate nonsense.
It is seriously crazy that the Q4 e-tron and BMW i4 don’t have adaptive cruise standard given the price points and it being 2022.
Because old automakers have a lot of extra things, which can double the cost of the car. Talking about base price versus Tesla without considering what they don't have is reality skew. For VW, BMW and Audi you need to tick every thing in configurator that other cars already have in standard. As they say better a fully equipped Toyota than a bare Lexus
@@zibizz1 a fully loaded ID.4 is still over $10k cheaper than a Model Y.
@@brandenflasch
In my country, Tesla Y LR ~$64,5k and fully loaded ID.4 GTX (this has at least similar power) ~$64k after sale TAX*
Yeah the German brands don’t seem big on giving the safety/driving features away. Most new BMW’s don’t even have blind spot warning either
Agreed. You can get adaptive on a cheap Corolla now. It should be standard everywhere
I love the way the Ioniq-5 looks, it looks the most like what an 80's or 90's "concept car of the future" would look like, it's futuristic but has just enough retro elements to make it feel familiar in a way.
Finally a real seat test. Always hire the right guy for the right job!
I am glad I bought a Ioniq 5. I love the comfort and the room for the passengers.
Texas, US experience. I purchased an Ioniq 5 simply for the looks and space. Went with awd for extra power. After driving in normal mode with a somewhat heavy foot, I experienced EPA rated range. I have recently switch over to Eco Mode, and 80% of my driving has been around 40mph, around town. I get around 320 miles with this change. I dont road trip often but my experience has been ok, better than expected at EA network. It can be improved.
Overall I am very happy with the car, serves its purpose as a daily driver hauling around my family very well. Did consider the model Y and would have purchased one in 2021. I would not at the current price. The charging infrastructure is the single best feature of the Model Y but it does not apply that much for me. It is still hard to consider now with all the options of evs in the 40k-60k range. Too much of a premium for the Model Y, even considering standard range(potentially 60k)
Good review. As a Classic Models S Owner who doesn't want to pay a premium for its sister SUV, the X, the Iqonic 5 would be the way to go via your review and the video.
I bought an Ioniq 5 in May of 2022. Loved it, and knew I wanted to get an EV for my son and his growing family. I had a chance to test the 2021 ID 4 that summer (don't ask me why a dealer wouldn't have a current model available to test drive), and was a bit disappointed. In the fall, I was able to test the 2022 version of the ID 4, which was much improved, but the I-5 was still superior, especially for the price tag at the time.
So I ended up getting the I-5 for my son in November of 2022.
Prices have actually gone down significantly since then for Hyundai EVs, as supply has caught up to demand. I don't know about the VW EV pricing.
I've had the Q4 over in the UK for about 9 months now and the connected tech is shockingly bad. We're all still waiting on a software update to enable OTA updates which is probably not going to happen anytime soon. I love the Q4, it's a beautiful, solid, car and drives great but just be prepared to feel a little left behind with the advancements in technology.
I hope VWs new CEO focuses a lot on their technology. I don’t think their current tech is horrible as some people act like it is, but it can definitely improve.
The Update is now rolled out for Skoda Enyaqs and will be rolled out late Q3 for Q4s.
After owning an e-tron for a few months, I am so glad I switched back to Tesla (M3 before, MY now). It rides well but the driving dynamics of Tesla are just far superior. I don’t even wanna beginn with infotainment, audi still lives in 2000s here. 🤢
Their slogan is Vorsprung durch technik, not software. Unfortunately for them that is where a car in 2022 is al about.
This video is fantastic, just shared with four family members who are in the market, everything I have been telling them in fragments for months in one neatly packed video! Thanks Kyle and team!!!!
Your timing is perfect! A lot of car buying decisions are made from late August to September. Regardless of brand preference, the more information available online the better the buying decision. The car market has become a strategy challenge and Out of Spec Reviews is an excellent info source. Thank you.
This video actually cleared up a lot of my questions about different cars. Thank you for putting it all in one place
In late June thru early July 2022, we drove my wife’s 2021 VW ID.4 PRO from Sacramento CA to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon without issue or problem.
From there, we drove to Zion National Park. Same: no issue.
And from Zion, back to Sac - in one day. EA worked flawlessly. The VW worked flawlessly, even in the very remote areas of northern Arizona and southern Utah. (We did use a ChargePoint in Kanab UT, as there were no EA stations around there.)
1,500 miles all together, in some very remote, off the beaten path roads and byways. In an ID.4 PRO.
Two adults, a teenage boy and two dogs. And gear.
I’d say that’s pretty impressive.
Mach-E is the only one of these cars that truly looks like a luxury sports car, and is designed to be just that. Its the best looking inside and out, fast as hell, and affordable. Makes for a great first EV, just wanna get one and ride into the sunset lol
I just completed a 5,531 mile US road trip in my 2021 Model 3 SR+.
Over 13 days of driving (July 10 through July 31, 2022, with family time in Kentucky) from Sacramento CA to Louisville KY and back (with numerous side trips), I drove nearly half what I drive in a year.
Shortest daily distance ~300 miles. Longest drive in a day: 650+ miles. Average daily drive ~425 miles.
The final analysis: Wow. This is definitely a road warrior vehicle, despite so-called “conventional wisdom,” regarding range.
I used 57 charging stops. In all those stops, I only had ONE 5 minute wait to plug in, at Glenwood Springs, CO. One. For 5 minutes. I’ve waited longer in a grocery store line. And that was a small charging station on a major interstate.
I drove through and charged in major cities (LA, Amarillo, OK City, Little Rock, Memphis, Nashville, St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Salt Lake City) and many small towns and wide spots in the road. 72 kW to 250 kW.
Typically, I was either the only one there or one of two Teslas. My typical stop was 20-25 minutes. Enough time to have a short walk about, use the bathroom, grab a bottle of water and snack, text family, and then get back on the road (these timely breaks, and the awesome auto pilot, assured I’d be rested and relaxed, even after many hours of travel).
I charged on weekdays, weekends, rush hour, nighttime, huge supercharger (50+) or small (4), on the interstate or off some small blue highway… I drove and charged through them all. No cherry picking. (Consider also the local catastrophic climate issues in Kentucky and St. Louis during my trip home, July 26-31.)
57 superchargers. 5,531 miles. 13 days of driving. In July, 2022. One wait. 5 minutes. Starbucks line? Bank lines? Costco gas lines? Holding on the phone? 5 minutes is a piece of cake!! And it was once, out of 57 charging stations.
And 5,531 miles of supercharging cost me $522.00. More than charging at home. But far less than the ICE equivalent (2021 330i, RWD BMW), of $900+ at ~33 hwy mpg, premium gas. With no maintenance cost other than wear/tear on tires.
I can’t speak for others. But I would say that’s a complete success in my book. Brilliant!
57 stops for 20 minutes is 1140 minutes. That's 19 hrs of charging time.
@@RT-rv5be Spread over 13 days and 5,500 miles. It wasn’t all at once, Dude. 🤗
@@ezpoppy55 That's the issue at hand. 19 hrs of charging over only 13 days. Almost an entire day not moving. At 60 mph average, that's 1140 miles or almost 23 percent of your total trip mileage.
@@RT-rv5be Again it was over 13 days. The facts are the facts. All I do is present them.
Mind you, I’m driving the poor man’s (or in my case, the retired teacher’s) Tesla. It has the least amount of range.
If you’re into cannonball style cross country driving, this may not work for you. But on any given day of this trip, an ICE driver would probably beat me by maybe 30-45 minutes to a set destination each day, if they took bio breaks. If they took no breaks, and had the range to drive 425 miles without stopping (which to me sounds absolutely miserable!!), then they’d beat me by 80 minutes.
Remember that the purpose of the trip wasn’t to set a land speed record - it was to see and experience our nation.
But, you do you. No one, least of all me, is forcing you to do otherwise. I’m just presenting facts. Not the hyperbole and bs that EVs can’t be driven across the country. They most certainly can!
BTW, in my 50 years of driving, I’ve never arrived at any destination - even when I drove like a bat outta hell - to find a gorgeous bikini-clad model, holding a trophy, roses, and one of those super-sized checks, just waiting to plant a big wet kiss on me, “the winner.” Nope.
The drive I made was a total blast, and I have a ton of great memories, not the least because of the stops I made to charge. But if others just want to see a blur, tell the family to “hold it!” and get there “first,” well, I’m not stopping them.
Thanks for your detailed account of your wonderful trip. I never used cruise control on any previous car and was suspicious of using Autopilot on my MY, but I’ve been extraordinarily pleasantly surprised to find how much less tired I’ve been using it on my initial road trips. Also our pit stops have not been longer than trips in an ICE car: in an ICE car, we parked, used the restroom, got food, then gassed up, no shorter than 30 minutes in total. In the Tesla, park and plug in, and take care of business while charging.
As a 6'3" tall guy - THANK YOU SO MUCH for getting your dad to review the size of the interiors. it is SO hard to find that info!
My Wife and I we choose the EV 6 AWD over the Ioniq 5 because of the Seats. You could find a lower position, wich i like and we could both find a postion we like. In the Ioniq my Wife (1,58m) do not find a good position. I like the fast charging. and the Look. Also for roadtrips in germany heating up the Battery for good charging is no big problem. For roadtrips you will uses the Autobahn and when the Battery goes empty just speed up to the next charger. With 100 mph (160km/h) or more the Battery will be warm enought to charge fast.
Kyle, I don't know if you're using a script or what but you have such smooth delivery and consistent specs + feedback between vehicles. Very much appreciated :)
Fantastic video! Thank you for your hard work on this! I'm thinking about reserving the id4, or the bolt euv. The ioniq5 looks good but it's hard to find a base model. Anywhoo you gave us a great information, can't wait until you get the bolt euv.
Great video, lots of good info. Kind of surprised you did not mention the paddle regeneration controls on the Ioniq 5
Kyle, I appreciate your reviews and the comparison of the various similar cars. We are on our second EV. First was an i3 as a second car, and then after we bought ebikes and discovered that we really did not need two cars anymore we sold both the EV and ICE car and bought an XC40 P8. One aspect of EV ownership that no one seems to touch on in reviews is the apps that link to the car. One reason we decided it was time to ditch the i3 was the onboard cell phone for connectivity was 3G and there was no practical upgrade path from BMW. One thing I miss with the Volvo app vs the BMW is the ability re see charge history.
Really looking forward/hoping you do a review of the 2023 ID.4, see what differences there are in the US build model (with, I believe, the 3.1 software version). In particular, am interested seeing the charging curve with the 175 kW max charging speed.
Thanks for braving 100 degrees to present this side by side comparison. Really interesting and informative. 👍
Hey Kyle. You are absolutely correct that range is not an issue. I've owned a 2022 Polestar 2 dual motor for a month and a half now and took it on a thousand mile road trip from San Francisco to LA and back. The car did excellent. It got slightly better than the stated range of 250 miles because we drove on the pacific coast highway (speeds between 50 and 60 MPH, but I did drive stretches of higher speeds on highway 101). Charged up at EA every 150 miles or so and longest stretch was about 180 miles. The charge speed (if I precondition) hit 153 KW and I was able to charge about 50 KWH in about 30 minutes for the most part (some more and some less). The 30 minutes went by really fast with a bathroom break and a cup of coffee at starbucks. :) It was really fun doing a EV road trip. i wouldn't want to do a ICE road trip unless I need to be somewhere in a hurry and if that were the case, I would fly. Just sharing my first EV experience. FYI, I was going to buy a plug-in Mazda (soon to debut CX70) for my wife, but I am convinced now that we don't need a PHEV. We just don't have range anxiety anymore. I think we will buy her the Honda/Acura BEV when they come out in 2024.
Great review. I appreciate the effort you make to understand the technical aspects of each car and you communicate it so well. IMO buying an electric car compared to an ICE car you are also buying into the charging infrastructure as well as the tech interface as these are part of the everyday experience with an EV. More range is better if it’s due to efficiency and not more heavy batteries. How many ICE car owners even know how many gallons of fuel their tank holds?
D R142: Too many drugs dude. This video is NOT about EV's.
Haha! Thank you for this video. Being the same size as Dave, I appreciate someone showing off the back seat room with the seat all the way back. When I was a young teen, I would go car shopping with my parents. The first thing they'd do is put me in the back seat to see if I even fit.
Love this
Amazing, a coherent hour off the cuff! Love my iD.4 except for window buttons and evil mirror control. Can’t operate them without looking. To be safe, must be stopped.
Greyhound Rocky can operate the center binnacle touch buttons. Boop! Nose touch and flashers are on. Center binnacle labels are hard to identify. Can’t find or differentiate by touch.
Love the way it moves. Confident and composed. I’m with Kyle on joy to drive. Id.4 Carries 2 greyhounds in luxury with Orvis seat and WayBack quilts.
I just traded my 2018 model 3 for a 2022 model Y that was made in Austin. They must have improved the suspension because it rides very smooth.
I have a 2022 MYP and it drives like a rock. The 2022 long range I test drove was okay. The Mach-e I test drove felt like a normal car.
However, on a smooth road my MYP is whisper quiet. At all other times it’s a rattle box.
The model y performance has a stiffer suspension than the long range. I believe sometime in 2021 Tesla softened the suspension of the model y and model 3 significantly. This is why the suspension on the 2020 model y shown in the video was incredibly stiff
@@1ronEntertainment, it was fall of 2022 when the MY got the suspension upgrade and made it a much smoother and comfortable ride. I test drove it in the spring of 2023.
This was by far my favorite video that you guys have produced. I’m sure thousands of people will make a buying decision based on this content. Excellent job!
I liked Kyle’s dads real world test fit. Great demo for the big guys!
It pretty much shows that if you want to transport a few 6ft+ people its difficult to find a car. I'd love to see Dave (Kyles dad) do the same in the GV60 and the Toyota BZ4X (when available again)
I feel his pain. Why am I this big but love hot hatches? WTF is wrong with me. I am built for full size trucks, not a Golf MK 6.
Watching this in June 2023 and it’s just a fabulous video with all the info you could possibly want. Thank you for doing it right, in all your videos.
This is the video to share with normal people who are starting to consider electric SUVs. Just wish you had a graphic comparing OOS/InsideEVs real world range results. It’s still the first question everyone asks.
I truly appreciated the interior review being 6’3” myself.
Don't downplay the lack of dash/HUD on the Model Y. HUDs are game changers. Owning both an Ioniq 5 and Model Y, it's night and day for the driver's experience. Highly recommend test driving and forming your own opinion.
When I got my Model 3 in 2018, not a single one of these vehicles was available, including the XC40, or the Bolt EUV. It's fantastic. Now we need the people working on charging to hit the accelerator, both numbers and reliability (yes I watched your video on the subject).
Most appreciated, well rounded and pertinent when considering the Model Y for my wife. It's good to know we have competitive options.
Thanks for your videos and perspective, I really appreciate it. One factor about pricing, the Tesla may have the most expensive starting price BUT you pay the advertised price whereas the others may have a lower starting MSRP but in the current market dealers are asking for premiums well above MSRP for e.g. buyers of Hyundai Ionic 5 are paying $5K, $10K or even $15K above MSRP here in California due to the demand and lack of inventory.
Orange County Dealer wanted $72K (tax/lic inc) for an Ioniq 5 Limited!!! So I bought a Model 3 Perf. instead
Thank you for the comprehensive comparison and clear explanations.👍
Thanks for the awesome review!
Kyle, you put out such great content, this was a great review, I just opted to take the plunge with my first EV, a 2022 AWD Id4 Pro S ( Certified Pre owned) with 12k miles on it. It was right around $30k after California's 2k used EV rebate. I couldn't touch a model Y in that year with low mileage at that price, and most of the other cars here in this video as well.
Can't wait for your Q4 complete review as well as the 2023 Id4. Your dad made me laugh so much!
You talk about MSRP, but the elephant in the room are the additional dealer markups. Some cars are far easier to get at MSRP - others it is nearly impossible.
At the end of the day, any one of these cars is pretty decent - it is more a question of what you can actually find without dealer markups and without ridiculous wait times.
Correct🙌
Great, useful, relevant content on this topic. Hat's off.
Kyle and Team, great video and I love that you include others to help you and to also provide their opinions even if they don’t agree with you. That keeps it real!!
I suggest to create a matrix of different categories for car evaluation similar to what you have done for the driver assistance challenge that I have seen in some of your videos.
I think people really need to get a sense of what’s like to live with one of these, day to day basic stuff. To me doing a demo of the apps is important, basic infotainment functions demo as well, charging speed actual times from 10-80% maybe, trunk and frunk volume, etc. In other words, demostrare if the specs on paper are accurate or they are not the real thing. Thanks.
Terrific info - thank you. Enjoyed father son tag team too.
What a great comparison of same-segment EV's. Super helpful. Thanks!
Great Video. Just an update on the new ID.4 2022 with the 3.1 update. It gets to a peak of 174kw, actually till 23%. And around 150 till 45% Then comes down. I have seen 105 till 60%. You should do a test.
Good stuff. 2023 ID.4 owner here, although I strongly considered the Ioniq 5 and still think it's a really cool car. My friend got an Ioniq 5 before my purchase, and I just couldn't copy him! For real though, the ID.4 just feels the most like driving a normal car and I've been super happy with it for almost a year now, no regrets
I think 2 window switches are genius. I know that I am in the minority, but I never need to worry about inadvertently putting down the back window when I want the front window down. I can't tell you how many times I have put the back window down by accident when approaching a toll booth. So from my perspective, I say "Thank you, VW for the 2 window switches". Nice review. Thank you.
Yes! Absolutely every reviewer criticizes this but you know what, they're always sitting in a parked car when they point it out! I often do that too while driving, and the two buttons only with switch would be a good fix for that.
I've been fighting my wife's bias against half the brands for an EV. We've had an i4 on order, but with the tax updates, I'm wondering if she can get over our past experience with a VW dealer and the whole "diesalgate" or at least accept the Hyundai has been starting to up the quality and is worth the asking amount of the Ioniq 5. Glad to see the praise for the ID.4, I've been leaning towards that as an option if we don't stick with our BMW plan. Really glad to see the overall comparisons so I can rate what matters to me most in each car.
I would agree with your wife about "dieselgate." I wouldn't trust a company like Volkswagen that only a few years ago lied to its customers and multiple governments at the expense of everyone's health and the environment. Their true NOx emissions were 40 times worse than their faked emissions testing let on. A brand's history matters almost as much as the spec sheet of its current products.
I have an ID.4 RWD 2021. I find Kyle to be spot on with his review of the ID4. It just feels right. I drive up and down mountain roads and it chews them up better than an Outback. And it isn't even AWD. I haven't had any issues with the software but my AC condenser hose is currently blocked up and backing up into the cabin. I don't know if this is a manufacturing defect or a random act of Satan.
I just got a 2023 VW ID.4 with the large battery and rear wheel drive and I am getting around 290 miles of range. This is my first EV and I am very happy with it.
Love the video. Would love to see a range test on the Model Y and Mach-E, in varying weather conditions, elevation, and driving style (for efficiency reasons). I'd also want to know how the Model Y compares to the Mach-E on the CCS networks via an adapter (Model S Plaid too perhaps?).
Awesome comparison. I own a 2022 id4. Software 3.1 is pretty good responsive haven’t noticed any major bugs so far in almost a month of ownership.
My Model Y Performance gets about 280 at 100%, but it’s rated at 300 miles. I also have a heavy foot and leave Sentry mode on, run AC a lot. Also check how much tires are to replace! Lol!
Excellent presentation. I was able to watch the entire presentation
Another awesome informational vid!
Please do a comparison with the entry level models. I purchased a Kona just a few weeks prior to the IRA (as I wait for an ID4) and have been blown away with the range…
The Audi’s “”f**k the wind” non-aerodynamic styling annoys me. The Tesla’s low drag coefficient gives it a huge advantage in range and power used.
My Brother-in-law. Showed me his Hyundai Ionic EV which he purchased 2 days before. He plans on charging it using his solar panels as he currently has quite a bit of excess electricity. The local electric company in California pays him for it but not at the rate they normally bill for. He says it is practically free as a result.
He will be using some of that excess electricity in the future to water his grapes (his well is dug but not plumbed yet) but even then it will be less than feeding his car gasoline.
He says that if they need to travel farther than the range, they will use their Prevost motorhome as they did the last time they visited us.
I have the EV6 GT Line. Love it! I have 2 Fisker Oceans on order, Ultra and Sport trims. Was planning to replace the EV6 with the Ocean. But, I'm thinking there is no way it's better. Might only get Ocean Sport as a backup car.
Great comparison review, thanks! I’m in the market for one of these EVs.
This is very informative. However, I would like to have heard more on the "utility" part of sport utility vehicle. And it would've been great to hear for sure where VW is at on their software.
Amazing video. Great in-depth analysis that was concise but really helped along my thought process for which one of these to get. Most important for me is cargo space, range, and fast charging since we go on lots of trips so I'd go ioniq 5 any day.
Cargo space and range, it favours MY
We have the e-tron for 1.5 year now .. its amazing car ! No regrets. I like seats and interiors better than any other car in category.
I'm one of those rare folks who do not like glass roofs. That eliminates the Tesla models I can afford.
For me, Ioniq 5 SEL is likely the one in the sweet spot.
Great video as always!
I have the ev6 gt line and I love it but I am looking to trade up to the gt so I can go to the the drag strip to take down some of them old muscle cars
Great reviews! What color is the ID.4 in that review? It looks too blue to be the Moonstone Gray ... or am I wrong?
Great video Kyle, thank you for the perspective. Fun fact, I took a shot of whisky every time your dad said how tall he is and I was totally drunk by the time he sat in the VW.
Apologies for causing your inebriation!!
@@dconner9 in all seriousness you guys put out the best EV content on TH-cam! We have two electric cars and an electric motorcycle in our household and enjoy watching all the out of spec videos!!
I love that you use your dad in your videos! He is doing a great job!
The Q4 is remarkably agile. Shortest turning circle of all I believe (with the ID4). Good to maneuver. I think the MY got much improved suspensions late 2021. I wasn't shocked (pun intended) when I test drove it twice recently. The performance model gets much stiffer suspensions though and the car is dropped 2 inches lower to the ground. I would argue there's no reason to go for the performance over the long range. The LR gets plenty of performance already, keep your money :)
I fast charged my 2023 ID.4 (USA) from 9% to 80% in 31 minutes the other day on a road trip with outside temperatures in the mid 40s. Max charge rate was 160kw
How did you manage that?
The ID4 2023 with the larger battery has a peak 170 kW charging speed.
I have a Tesla Model S 2022 and the range matters to me. I use the car to do road trips. Also, I get free charging when I go into the office, which I generally do once a week. So, the range really helps me.
Great video! Would be nice though if you added some text on screen just reiterating prices and other stuff you talk about. I find myself rewinding a lot and just being able to read the information at a glance would improve the watch experience
would love to see a comparison of the entry level small ev´s
Great review thank you I’m leaning toward the mustang
Would you be able to do a DC fast charging test with the 2022 VW ID4 to see the new charging curve?
A great video review and I appreciated your dads inputs because I’m a smaller guy, only 6’3”, and the front seat back seat comparisons was nice. So it’s now a year later is there anything that’s changed that affects your review? We’ve recently driven id4, ioniq5, and MME and I liked the ioniq5, ID4, and MME my wife liked the driving experience in the MME over the others. But the MME price is so much higher than the others. And I say that as both a Ford vehicle owner for almost 50 years, and a stock owner - the MME is priced uncompetitively. I’d like to get an EV, but as a recent retiree, cost matters.
I absolutely love this series!!!!!
software 3.1 on ID4 is much better. Hasn't been an issue in the month I have had mine. I agree the cruise haptic button can be a safety concern.
First of all and most importantly, what a great dad!! Even though I'm out in Europe, this was very helpful!
Woohoo! ID.4 getting some love today.
Crazy how I disagree with everything said about the interior of the ID.4. Haha. I own one, all the UI and the mobile app works perfectly and it's wonderful. Haha. Thanks Kyle!
Yeah, I’ve had mine for two weeks now it’s absolutely perfect. Maybe it’s because I came into this thing with the latest software.
@@User.Joshua,
Even with the software my 2021 shipped with, it’s a fantastic car. I love it
It’s a subjective thing, of course, but I gotta say that after my husband bought an ID.4, I completely ruled it out for myself due to its UX.
I’m not limiting that just to the software either. The physical controls are awkward to me, from the much maligned 2 window buttons to the capacitive touch everywhere (sorry, Dad, not “haptic”) to the soft buttons right where you want to rest your wrist, etc.
But he loves his car, and I couldn’t be happier about that or your fit with yours!
You’re an extremely impressive human being. Thank you! Sincerely. For all the amazing videos
Hello from canada, i wish you would have talk more about their respectif APP wich is super usefull in cold climate to prep the car. Is it thrue that the ID.4’s one work only with Rogers?
I seen another video on the ID 4 and they held down the rear button for a few seconds till It beeped and then all windows were controlled with one switch.
Probably due to timing of this video, but looking forward to Out of Spec review of Nissan Ariya. Hope to be receiving mine soon, test drove at my local dealership this week, very nice. Believe it would stack up near the top of this line up.
I hope you'll get access to the 2023 ID4 with the new Pro S Plus trim level.
I agree the Model Y is very expensive. For the other cars, can you actually get them out the door and into your driveway via the stealerships for the prices quoted in the video?
Thanks Kyle for this very valuable video. I enjoy hearing your impressions of each of these cars, particularly since you have back-to-back experience with all of them.
ID4 now peaks at 170kw with the software update.
With the us made 1s I think yes. Id5 Yes. It all depends on battery manufacturer
US made ID.4 will have 170kw charging it will be interesting to see the US curve.
You really do a great job! You've found your Niche👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Nice, comprehensive video. What I didn't see mentioned was the absence of regen braking on the ID4. I test drove it last week, and was mystified by the absence of a one-pedal drive mode. I brought it to the attention of the salesperson and she was unable to shed any light on the subject. Wasn't even aware of regen braking. She said that no ID4s have regenerative braking or one-pedal driving. Can that be true?
(To the discredit of the dealership, their test-drive ID4 was a 2021 model, and they have no plan to update to a '22 or '23 version.)
It absolutely has regen via blended braking. There’s also a “B” mode that’s very similar to one pedal driving, but it won’t bring the vehicle to a full stop.
Yeah, what are you talking about, put the ID4 in B mode and it brakes as soon as you lift your foot off the accelerator at full regen. It won't bring you to a full stop but it's real close to stopped. Have you even driven the car ???
@@thomasklein4265 If that question is addressed to me, here's my answer: 1) At the VW dealer where I did my first test drive of an ID 4, they only would allow test drives for the 2021 model they had on the lot. It did not have anything approaching one-pedal regenerative braking. At best, it was equivalent to Level-2 regen braking on the Ioniq 5 (Hyundai). 2) Later- a few months after I'd driven the 2021 model, I got to drive the 2022 ID 4 at the same dealer. The regen braking was much more evolved, but as you noted, does not fully stop the car- even going up hill. For contrast, the iPedal driving mode in the Ioniq 5 will absolutely bring the car to a full stop.
My original comment here was made well before I got a chance to drive the 2022 model. It's a fine car; less intuitive for me to drive than the I-5, but the instrument panel could be learned in due time.
I hope this answers your question to your satisfaction.
Ioniq 5 AWD owner here. I can confirm the AWD version CAN get the same range as the RWD-only version. I suspect the EPA test cycle is done in "normal" mode where the front motor stays connected which would explain the different official ranges. However, if you drive in "eco" mode then as you mentioned the front motor is removed from the drivetrain and the range improves significantly. I have a friend with the RWD version and we've compared notes, our ranges are extremely similar if we both drive in "eco" mode. I'm currently getting much better range than advertised on paper for my car (top of the line Ioniq 5, here in Canada it's the "Preferred AWD with Ultimate")
what's your lifetime efficiency and how many miles so far? i've only got 500 miles on my AWD and currently sitting at 3.1 mi/kwh. 75% eco mode, 20% standard, and 5% spent at red lights LAUNCHINGGGG. anyways, i'm hoping i can creep it up closer to 3.5 mi/kwh... in order to get 303 mile range, i figure we'd need to get 4 mi/kwh (303 miles divided by 75 usable kwh)...
@@TimothyBaylosis I've got about 8,700 kms on it right now. Not sure what the overall lifetime efficiency of it is but I'm currently getting around 15kWh/100 km.
@@heymike7037 15kWh/100km = 4.14mi/kWh wow… my 3.1mi/kWh = 20kWh/100km. i gotta step up my efficiency!
@@TimothyBaylosis I get 4 plus mi/kWh from the rear wheel ev6
2023 ID4 does 170kwh charging, looking forward to seeing if it will actually hit that and for how long.
You can watch the actual ID5 GTX videos. It does that until around 30%. But sadly Rapidgate is a problem
I think Dave left a spot on the headliner in the model Y in the back.
The Audi looks great. I drive a Tesla tho. Tesla has the longer History making EV’s. Great Video. Keep up the great work. I would love to see the cheap EV comparison video. Kia Niro, Volvo, and Bolt. It would be a good choice for young college students. They will be the future EV driver’s.
This video is such a fantastic resource but feels like it needs a quick written update in the description now that a Y and ID.4 cost the same.
I put a deposit down for the Blazer EV. I hope Chevy has a similar color to that grabber blue. It’s so beautiful to look at.
The MME can get the EA membership price through plug and charge. May only be open to early access members right now though.
Yeah, it's still a work in progress. I think it's fair that it wasn't included in the video, but hopefully, P&C will be very worth it soon.
EPA Mileage testing uses 55 MPH maximum speed which over states Range for electric powered cars which will usually be going 70-75 on the interstate. Here in Utah, if you are going 75 you WILL be passed. Often by someone giving you the finger.
The situation at higher elevations should improve due to less dense air which gives you the effect of superior Areodynamics.
Does the xc40’s heat pump help with conditioning for charging?
I think it’s important not to use MSRP Price. Most of these cars you can’t even get. Then dealers are marking them up and if you follow the market they are all creeping up in price. At this point it is virtually impossible to get a EV under $50,000. I had a Mach E that I got for a Steal but I’m trading it for a Tesla. Although Tesla is more expensive it’s still the best EV on the road. And if you look online all those cars are 50k and up none are selling at MSRP
I live in New England. ID.4 and Ioniq 5 can be had for under $50k, and for MSRP. The EV6 and Mach-e are in the lowest supply here and most likely to have dealer markups. Along the Boston - DC corridor, the Tesla Supercharger Network offers no real advantage over CCS.
Great video. I currently have the Q4 although prefer the Skoda Enyaq. Just couldn’t get one. Without a family I would go for the EV6 but my German Shepherds rank the Enyaq top, the ID4 second and the Q4 third. The rest don’t get on the starting line. I am 6 foot 6 and the Enyaq for front and rear space was by far the best.