@@1mrcow143 Everyone can do that, it is piss simple (also i have a PSVita and a Wii U, and my older sister had a Dreamcast, in my family we really love avant-gardist consoles that nobody bought lol)
I went to Japan at the end of November to mid-December and I took my 3DS with me to get StreetPass data. As it turns out, you can still run across a ton of people toting around the 3DS in Tokyo. Kinda wild.
The Japanese doesn't quickly give up on previous systems, especially handhelds. In Japan, Tokyo especially, you can easily find pristine condition Gameboy Color and Gameboy advance consoles and games, as well as PSP and DS consoles and games. The gaming landscape over there is just like a whole different planet.
The same people would made the Wonderswan and Neogeo Pocket Color... I always thought that aspect of Japanese culture and somewhat see a similar thing with Latin speaking countries. Where they are on older hardware. I find it more humbling and as someone who was still on the PS2 IN 2011-2012. I can relate. I was a late PS3 adopter.@@dawoodwilliams3652
@@livesinalazywonderland4021imagine idiots still think like this lmao. if that were the case the video game industry would have crashed since the super famicom. piracy has never had a significant impact in sales. people who pirate would never have bought them in the first place. use your brain.
To be fair (and I love the Vita) I was so excited and got it on release, but even in the first 1 - 2 years with full support the quality games it got still left me wanting. Maybe it was to expensive to develope basically console quality games for Handheld retail prices and even with cheaper memory cards we would have maybe got a few more AAA exclusives. Monster Hunter wasn‘t gonna be on there either way, which in my opinion may have been the biggest factor. It‘s like if the Nintendo 64 never got a Mario Game, it was THE killer app for PSP (together with GTA which also was missing)
As someone who bought and modded both a 3DSxl and PSVita within the last few months, I think that the 3DS has more consistently good games made for the 3DS itself as well as a greater library of good games on the DS, GBA, and SNES, but the short-lived Vita has higher highs with more addictive, well-executed games and, since you can play PSP and PS1 games on it, you have every single golden age Square JRPG title available, every Final Fantasy up to 10, loads of other JRPGs, and a lot of more amazing action games. There were a lot of series that started on the PSP and ended on the 3DS, with the most notable example being 7th Dragon. If you can get both, then I highly recommend it! I spend like 8 hours a day at work playing my portables, and I don't think I'd ever going to be bored again.
I remember in the leadup to Vita, as iPhones were really taking off as the big new thing, gaming journalists were always wildly speculating about a PSP Phone. I really think Sony was lead astray by that and it ultimately killed the Vita. Vita didn't need 3G, didn't need front and rear touchscreens & cameras, or gyroscopic and accelerometer controls, or a suite of dorky social apps and games crammed with swipe gestures and motion gimmicks. I think if they'd cut all those "features" and launched $50 cheaper with a focus on quality portable games, Vita would've been a huge success and even had a strong chance to surpass the 3DS at a time when it was really struggling. That being said, to this day I still consistently get in a few games on my Vita each year and I love the damn thing. It really was some great hardware that just never really got a fair chance due to a slew of bad decisions from Sony.
That is absolutely true. The Vita also in a lot of ways paralleled Android phones at the time where they'd introduce like 8-10 features that barely worked but looked good in the advertising instead of doing what Nintendo/Apple did/do and just nailing 1-2 features really well and as a result game devs either didn't know what to do with them so they ignored it or were pressured by Sony and the games became worse because of it. Cost was also a big problem since the Vita cost as much as a PS3 for the time and that's not counting the proprietary memory cards.
The way Ridge Racer on Vita worked basically mandated owning a 3G model. The game has nearly zero content when you're not playing online - this isn't to say you can't do a quick race, but that's the thing - literally zero of what you do is for anything other than getting better stuff to use online. There's no career for the game. Really strange considering RR3D was a complete game just a year prior, but it's also a weird game given it launched before the console did, and has no eManual.
I agree on it not needing the apps, but not so much the cameras and touch screens. One problem the PSP had was that it had no substitute for R2/L2 and R3/L3. The touch screens and pads on the PSVita were a clever solution to that problem. That way, way more complex games could be ported over. Something like the sly games just wouldn't work without them. Not to mention it would severely limit the games you could play via remote play. As for the cameras... I like playing Invizimals on my Vita.
@@jimberry9676 It supported PS1 games although from what I can tell for the US market it was basically only Crash Bandicoot, and that came with the phone. It's software emulation so if you used PSXperia to add your own backed up PS1 games, it would be hit and miss on if it works properly. One of the main issues for the Xperia Play was that it was just made at a very bad time for devices expected to have the cost of a phone (and functions of a phone to compete with other smartphones) to have enough power to actually run anything. Phones just didn't cost what they do now, and it's not like you were banking on software sales to recoup costs via licencing like a game console would expected to. Forget the long running period where hardware kept getting shipped and never updated from Android 4 - the Xperia Play pre-dated that period, and released on Android 2.3.3/2.3.4 (which was current at the time), and supposedly it never got more updates because Ericsson had stability issues when they were working on anything beyond that. For comparison, in the same year (2011) the iPhone 4 was only 9 months old and not long in the tooth yet, the Nintendo 3DS launched a month prior, the PSP Go was a year and a half old (although the Xperia Play at least used microSD instead of M2 cards), Samsung launched the Galaxy S II just one month after the Xperia Play hit market, and both the first Note and iPhone 4s would launch 6 months after the Xperia Play, while the Vita itself would launch 8 months later in Japan and 10 months later for the rest of the world.
I don't know what it is but something about my mind can't accept that these consoles are basically _over_ . The latter half of the 2010s really went by faster than I thought and it's about to be 4 years since the pandemic. Man I remember when I got my 1st 3DS. That was such a magical time
man... I remember the N64 being new. I remember the GBA being new... and the Gamecube... and the DS. To this day, the Gamecube is the only console I've ever bought on launch
@@SnakebitSTI are they though? the switch is still insanely popular and steam decks/portable PCs are godsends for portable pc games. though if you mean handstyle games i kinda get what you mean, it seems a bit harder to find good pick and up and play for a bit on the bus etc kinda games nowadays.
The 3DS has a built-in GBA emulator that can run anything. They were simply lying when they gave us a reason they wouldn't give us any more GBA games on it. I use my 3DS for GBA Fire Emblem/Pokemon romhacks on a physical handheld, it feels very authentic to play them like that.
One thing to note about the Vita's Kinda backwards is when modded the PS Vita has a full PSP mode which also can mod games to allow you to use the right analog stick for cameras. Modding also allows you to fix the biggest issue with the Vita;Memory Sticks as it allows to turn the game card slot into your storage space and use a cheap Micro SD to Game Card converter to be able to store everything.
You can play the entirety of the PSP catalogue without the need of modding it. Have already been a thing since 2021 and it was available on firmware 3.71, not sure about 3.73 though (I have a modded Vita so read an article/guide back then and never looked back)
@@Elia01I know, I had mine since 3.60(system updated and broke it) now I'm on 3.65. Just saying to the folks out there who don't want to CFW (because of stigma/piracy)
@@sahaprocks7751 Besides the eshop of Vita still up but yeah production wise or game releases (not counting homebrew) yes discontinued. And certain Vita services RIP PS3/Vita connection for PS1 game transfer and other aspects.
You bring up a very good point about how a lot of first-party PSP/Vita games were just the console games but portable, but also more than that, the PSP/Vita didn't have blockbuster franchises that they could call their own. Like Pokemon started on GB and consistently released mainline titles only on Nintendo handhelds, but PSP/Vita didn't have anything like that. Monster Hunter is the closest it came to that, but ironically, Capcom moved that series from PSP to 3DS.
Monster hunter started on the ps2. You're reference would be like claiming Animal Crossing for the nds, when it started on the n64. Also "to call their own" in reference to handheld exclusives, i dont know what you're getting at or why its a negative for the psp but not the nds. Its Nintendo, the same characters from the nes, snes, but to go. Thats how nintendo marketed the gameboy, a Nintendo home console in your pocket. Sony went the same ish route with the psp/vita being an extension to the home console. Before the wii u.
@@WillParker322this! Thank you for saying that, i find it odd if sony brings some of there ip’s to a handheld it’s a problem but when nintendo does it it’s wildly praised, kind of comes off weirdly biased, i personally enjoyed the psp’s games a lot more then the ds and as well as psvita and 3ds, just look at burnot legends for psp compared to the ds lol theirs no comparison
It was fairly popular, but the Vita potentially sold less than the Wii U or at least very similar numbers. That's still pretty dead even if a lot of its sales were in one region.
The Vita sold fine in Japan, around 6 million, which Is not bad but Is around 1/4 of the 3DS and 1/3 of the PSP. It did comparable to the N64 in that country which historically has been considered a sales dissapointment in Japan.
I never had a Vita but I love both of these systems so much. I feel like one of the Vita's most effectual coffin nails was Capcom's decision to continue the Monster Hunter series on 3DS instead. I think that cost Vita quite a few sales. MH was one of the killer apps on PSP.
Freedom Wars is one of the first Vita games I always think of. It's just a shame only like 7 people bought it because Sony didn't bother to market it. An absolute underrated gem, especially if you have someone to run multi-player missions with.
I went to 3 gamestops the day it came out and they all were sold out. I had to get it a couple days later. I remember that being a fun month, bayonetta had came out on the wii u and I think smash bros. I miss those days
It's truly a hidden gem. I had alot of fun times on the multi-player missions with one of my friends. I'm still mad that I didn't get all of the trophies before I mysteriously lost my Vita.
Freedom Wars was the first game I think of whenever I see the Vita! Such a great game and I had hoped for a while that it would be ported to the home consoles.
These two are some of my favorite devices in gaming. The big thing I will say is that Nintendo kept improving the library and features of the 3DS while Sony dropped the vita hard and fast. Both are great for having so many retro games on them. It's a shame how many people will never be able to experience this era and how many fantastic games it had without selling an arm or leg,
I'm actually on team original 3DS stylus: not only is it the most premium feeling (metal telescoping with good weight), its position meant it was unlikely to fall out due to gravity (a recurring problem with styli on the new 3DS).
I previously mentioned how when I was growing up in the Philippines, PSPs massively overshadowed the DS because of cheaper prices and piracy. When it came to the Vita VS 3DS, it appeared that the Vita once again dominated because of piracy and Sony being stronger and more beloved than Nintendo. 3DS unlike DS also didnt have R4 cards to rely on.
@@michaelschwader7944 sales numbers can be different depending on regions. The iPhone f.e. always sells a lot of units and has a high market share in regions like North America, Europe or Japan, while in India the market share of the iPhone is about 1%
I adore the vita and actually used damn near every feature on the vita. Including the music app. It let me play my music over everything else, and it even let you play mp3 files so you could upload any music you want to and listen while you play. It was great
I LOVED my Vita. I used it more than my 3DS. I had Katamari, LBP, Jet Set Radio, etc on my Vita. And I redownloaded all my digital PSP on my vita too. I kinda stopped using my 3DS shortly after the release of the “new” model. Vita appealed to me because it had a better friend system, party chat with friends, and I felt like it had better multiplayer and player interaction. Also, many servers are still active for the Vita to this day and I still play with my Vita friends. I also ripped my UMDs and copied them onto my Vita without having to mod it.
@@fritzthecat8158 deathmatch village, Minecraft, COD, Terraria, Sonic All-stars racing Transformed, Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault, Need for speed, LBP Vita recently got its servers revived, and packet captures for Killzone Mercenary’s servers were made available last year. There are games that have had their servers shutdown but there are communities working to get them back up. You can even play games that use ad-hoc mode online using ad-hoc party on PS3 and connecting your Vita. PSP games can also be played online on Vita as well.
Both the Vita and the Xperia Play were tragically abandoned. Sony should have released an Xperia Play successor since Android is much more mature and gaming-friendly than in 2011.
In Japan, one of the bigger upsets was when Monster Hunter became exclusive to 3DS. PSP had Monster Hunter exclusivity but it did not carry over to the Vita.
The glitter on the original 3DS model is tacky as hell but I always really adored it. Between that and the pointless telescopic stylus, as a kid it felt not only premium but also otherworldly in a sense, which I imagine is part of what they were going for with how they marketed the 3D. It's far from the best design of any console but to this day it's my favorite.
You mentioned there not being much of a point in using the 3DS camera, but I actually have an interesting story about that. In 2014, I went on a school trip to France. Naturally, I brought my 3DS with me to play on the plane. And I also started taking some pictures just for fun. And then I kept on taking pictures, regardless of the somewhat poor quality. Well, it turned out that for whatever reason, the outlet adapter wouldn’t work for my American 3DS charger, so my 3DS would be dead for the remainder of the trip. I was honestly really sad about this, and some of the adults on the trip didn’t understand why. They thought it was stupid of me to want to play a game system when I’m seeing all these sights anyway, but it wasn’t about playing games for me on that trip. I ended up going to a game store in Paris and getting a European 3DS charger (which I still have to this day). I kept on taking 3D pictures throughout the rest of the trip, and by the end of it, those very same adults who didn’t understand why I needed my game system were in awe over the 3D photos I had taken during the trip. Sure, they’re definitely not anywhere near as good quality as a REAL camera would have been, or even as good as a lot of smartphone cameras were at the time. But I don’t regret it for a second, because when I load up those same photos on my 3DS, I get to see them in a unique, pseudo-3D perspective that I wouldn’t be able to any other way.
The 3DS is one of my favorite handhelds of all time. It was a major part of my childhood and it’s home to one of my favorite series, Yo-Kai Watch. It also helps that the 3DS can play DS games as well. Even today, I still play my 3DS from time to time. Too bad the online servers are being shutdown for it later this spring.
It's a great system. Never able to play all the great Games i wanted, just because there was no time to play them all. This shows, how good the lineup was and still is
The 3d of the 3ds is the most amazing effect I experienced on portable system. The depth sensation is stunning, and even more when graphics seems pop out of the screen. Most amazing console ever.
I think the 3DS is my favorite gaming device of all time. Being g able to play base DS games meant I can play a good number of my favorite games of all time on it. I love the clamshell design, makes it feel like it’s meant to put in your pocket to play on the go. And the dual screens was a great concept to spice up games with a unique spin, or to just relegate some quality of life like a map. I played my first 3DS to system death, and am well into my second one. I will always cherish it.
same. i had an og 3DS when i was a kid and i loved it to death, last year i bought a new 3DS Xl and man it is so beautiful even after all these years. the clamshell design is timeless, and the library is even better
I honestly find it hard to consider outdated hardware your favourite gaming device. I'm a PC guy now so maybe that's why. Many of my favourite games came from the GBA and Wii but I wouldn't wanna go back to them in terms of the hardware itself. I've had a PS5 for less than a week and it's definitely my favourite console I've ever owned for the quality of life features alone
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep yeah i can kinda understand ur point. for example, i loved the wii but i’m not sure if i would want to play games on it again. but the new 3DS series isn’t really that old, they look and feel really good even by modern standards. not to mention that they still have an advantage over everything else in the market right now, which is its portability. even the switch isn’t as portable as a 3DS. also, nostalgia plays a big role. it might be a discontinued console, but there’s plenty of reasons why someone could still consider it their favorite gaming device even in 2024
The PS Vita is a perfect example of why great hardware means nothing without great software to go with it. The PS Vita is an amazing piece of hardware that was WAY ahead of its time. The games were just not there though, and even Sony stopped supporting it pretty early on. Realistically, the only reason it's even as popular as it is now is because of all the support and development done by the community. With the 3DS, Nintendo didn't over-engineer it and supported the hell out of it since it was the only thing that was keeping the company afloat at the time due to the WiiU performing so terribly. At the end of the day, the PS Vita never really stood a chance.
Western third parties made the PSP survive besides the language coaches and COD on DS so them going to mobile showed things. I agree Sony over engineered it. Thinking about premium quality but like with Pocket PCs or their phones (Sony like their niches) of the time should they have dropped off due to the iPhone or other possibilities maybe but Vita has its moments it would be disappointing if they never made it as I enjoy so much besides it's limits. Wii U/Vita I don't care what western third parties it lacks I don't care for them but that's not most people either. I enjoyed the mobile games, the Indies, the Japanese third party and first party of both systems. For me 3DS was that but the N64 remasters never played as only owned a DS/Wii and up prior and others I didn't get to experience that are for 3DS. Indies/Japanese games made the Vita. Android ports to Vita and homebrew does now. It never was dead unless people ignore what they have no interest in. It's fair but I don't think a Bioshock Vita like moment would save it at all. The hardware is good but yeah even then Travellers Takes made mobile ports of Lego games to 3DS/Vita and they sucked. So even kids games on systems to fill in gaps of software they didn't care. 3DS is good for sure though I enjoy both. First party Sony games were a thing but impact wasn't the case with them of PS3 IPs I can see why PS4 they changed direction but that direction forced me to not care for their future and why I count Vita and PS3 the end for me. Early PS4 too all the Last of Us/open worlds and cinematic game direction turned me away but pushed me to third parties more and their old IPs I missed out on retro consoles. I also don't think you need a new game from a series on handhelds like console but clearly many think so. For some IPs sure but I can say that with Mario and Pokemon and Zelda. Sony doesn't push IPs that way unless it's remasters while Nintendo has remasters they do push spin offs or yes sequels on their handhelds more I think. Not a bad thing though but they have Mario in sports, platformers, karts, puzzle, and paper RPGs. So many places. Sony doesn't have that but tries I guess to nowadays more..
It's funny you say that, because while I care a lot about Western 3rd party support for home consoles, I do not care at all for handhelds. I never thought about it before, but I've got no Western developed handheld games represented in my library. None. Game Boy through New 3DS, including PSP and Vita, not a single Western developed game. I'm kind of shocked to realize that.
You see, if Sony had actually advertised the Vita properly, people would know that it's library was at least a match for the 3DS in terms of size and quality, with it making up for us lower number of explosives with the number of games that could only be played portably on the Vita (at least until the Switch and the Steam Deck came out years later) and a ton less shovelware. I can't really think of a single genre where the Vita doesn't have at least a comparable number of high quality games to the 3DS in, and what it lacks in physical backwards compatibility or more than made up for with better digital backwards compatibility (as much as I like Link's Awakening and the two Oracle games, PS1's Alundra was better than all the put together, and I would have access to it even if I had bought it on my PS3 years earlier) and Remote Play.
I only just got a Vita a little under three years ago but the first game I tried was Tearaway, and what a great first impression that was. I haven't played the PS4 re-release but I imagine some of the game's magic is lost due to the Dualshock 4's absence of the Vita camera and backside touch pad. Honestly, I can't see the game being on 3DS due to the handheld's own limitations, so I have to give the Vita props for its own creativity in design.
Put many hours into both and I’d find it difficult to say which is better, I think the best thing overall is that they’re both so different meaning if you have both the range of variety is incredible.
It may not be a Scott the Woz video about the Vita, but at least he talks about it for once. I respectively really favor the Vita over the 3DS because of its excellent use in modding over the 3DS’s, but mainly because of the amount of indie games it had on there that I think really helped indie devs peak.
Vita is awesome but it doesn’t come close to the 3DS and I’m taking about without mods. It’s sad to see that’s what it took for the vita to become worth playing for many. I’m a Nintendo and PS fan so I always get there systems regardless the outcome.
@belikewatersf1051 eh, I wouldn't go that far. Aside from Monster Hunter and Nintendo titles that might not always appeal to everyone, there wasn't much the 3DS actually had over the Vita that was really compelling. For me, the single most enjoyable game on 3DS was the remake of Ace Combat 2. A shame Vita never got an Ace Combat game.
@@belikewatersf1051you cant just remove mods from the equation if youre talking vita, like the entire lifeblood of vita is how the modding scene carried what sony left. i can play fuckin vice city and vice city stories on the same console. not to mention exclusives like catherine full body and monster hunter frontier with patches. you just get the true potential of the vita unlocked with the thing modded. either way, i love the 3ds, but i notice more that the games on the 3ds feel alot more.. portable, like theyre just cut up and less feature filled than what youd get on the vita. compare games like 3d land, pokemon, and mario kart to stuff like uncharted, littlebigplanet, persona 4 golden, and modnation racers. 3ds games are built around moments of fun and picking up the game for 30 minutes and dropping it after, which makes it more lean and less fun for hour+ long sit throughs, you feel like the experience is alot cheaper than what you can get on a vita, which just happens to have so many kick ass titles that are fully featured, essentially just actual ports or special installments of ps2/3 games. they level feel strapped for content or downsized. it doesnt make for the best kind of drop in and play experience, but at the same time, the vita just has those games, just play hot shots golf or windjammers. i think in all cases, the vita takes the dub, i just think people dont realize it because theyre afraid to experiment with games outside their comfort zone. i play the shit outta project diva, and i wouldve never gotten invested in p4g if it wasnt for the vita community. vita means life
I ended up falling in love with the Vita after getting one for the first time in 2021 or so. Even with never owning one in the time when it wasn't a corpse, I'm still consistently impressed by the graphics it can pull off, and the extensive PS1/PSP library you can purchase. It's library was unfortunately just very limited after launch, and was only really worthwhile if you love JRPGs and Indies.
I got my vita in 2018 and I experienced my first game cancelation. I was looking forward to the Catherine Full Body port on vita and they just went radio silent on the release after announcement except in Japan. It would eventually come out on switch instead. I love my vita, everyday I'm finding new reasons to come back to it.
@@onemirrionyen It's a bit late but Catherine Full Body got a PSVita release, just not outside Japan. Nevertheless there's a translation patch that was released shortly after for CFW Vitas. The guy hand wrote the translation from the ps4 version and later fixed it when he was able to extract it on a CFW PS4.
In my opinion, I feel like the Vita is overrated and gets way too much credit from the community even though it barely has any noteworthy exclusives. The 3DS dominates the Vita when it comes to it's games library, even though it is significantly weaker and not as good design-wise. As a console from a hardware standpoint , the Vita is good, very good in fact (sans the stupid memory card BS). But in terms of games, the Vita is lacking. I mean, there isn't a single Vita exclusive that has permeated into the mainstream. The one that got the most attention were maybe Gravity Rush and Persona 4 Golden, which were all ported to other platforms, the latter of which just being a remaster/definitive edition too
@@MrSupersonic2012 See that's the problem. Some of those games aren't new games made specifically for the Vita, they're just ports of older games. Odin Sphere and Murasama to be exact. Meanwhile, Gravity Rush - which was easily the Vita's best and most notably exclusive - was ported to PS4 like three years later. Freedom Wars launched to mixed reviews despite being a solid game. Uncharted, Killzone, Soul Sacrifice, etc. were the real highlights, but they weren't really enough because they didn't feel like essential experiences, as Scott the Woz once said lol. I think that was the Vita's biggest problem. I could count the amount of mainstream-appealing "essential" Vita exclusives on my two hands.
Dont forget the official Circle Pad Pro grip which was a big plastic grip for the original 3ds that added an additional circle pad to the right of the entire device.
The Vita's modding scene is also still going strong in 2024. With games like Simpsons hit and run and hollow knight being ported over. Not to mention the entire Rockstar Classic games (GTA Sans, GTA III, GTA Vice city, Bully and Max Payne) are ported and fully playable. Most of the games ported are mobile versions but that does mean other mobile games (ie. Night in the woods, Double Dragon 4, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit) do get ported to the Vita.
I prefer the Vita to the 3DS. Being able to play Vita, PSP and PS1 games on the go is awesome. The OLED screen is also great as well. Most of the games on 3DS don’t really interest me but it’s great as well.
Very fun to see your perspective on these handhelds! I actually grew up with the PSP and Vita and I found so much fun with so many games on both platforms! That being said, I was always the person who dug around for more niche and interesting experiences (which Sony was also still providing at the time with groups like Japan Studio and whatnot), never always those major AAA games, so that does definitely inform differing perspectives on the experience of these systems. Regardless, I wouldn't trade my experiences with any of these platforms, and there's so much fun that can still be found and enjoyed today.
I just wanna say I've been really enjoying these videos, it feels like going into a time machine and remembering all this crazy stuff that happened in gaming in the 2010s. Super fun to watch.
embarrassingly, this is my favorite era of handhelds (or maybe consoles in general?)... I still play my 3ds regularly and recently got a vita for the first time and I love it 😭 it's kinda like how people always think the shows they watched as a kid were peak.
I love both my 3DS and vita in different ways. I played my 3DS more for sure but I still play both every so often my 3DS more though. Great video man. They both had great music for the shop and a lot of personality
The overpriced memory cards was the only reason the Vita failed. I remember loving my PSP and specifically not buying a Vita because of the memory card cost.
Have you seen the menu? It doesn't matter what the outside looks like when you're only ever looking at that eyesore. Also, I think the 3ds looks better, especially the non XL New 3DS.
The Vita still feels like a premium Handheld from today, while the 3DS has a solid gaming library around almost every single big Nintendo brand. Good time for handhelds, but the Vita only really competes with the 3ds once modding is in involved - once you do mod it though it becomes one of the most fun devices I‘ve ever owned
The Vita had two main problems which prevented me from buying it 1st was the lack of TV out. I really loved the TV out feature of my PSP and used it a lot. Vita not having that was a downgrade to me. By the time the PS TV thing came out, it was too little too late. 2nd was Sony's other handheld they released at the same time. The Xperia Play Playstation phone. It was much more appealing to buy that with the ability to emulate all my 8 and 16 bit games, and even play most my favorite PS1 (and a few N64) games. Also, there was a decent selection of mobile games that even had controller support.
Funny thing: If you modify a Vita and look how things are referred to inside the system; even sony developers internally address vita as PSP2 and many system directories, files configs etc are referred as PSP2 - like crashlogs are named PSP2 and so on.
i always wanted a PSP or Vita, Sony knows how to make a comfy controller feel, after getting the PS5 controller i can't go back to the old Xbox360 controller or Switch Pro, looking back at the 3DS and PSP years they were pretty good for the time, good handheld and fantastic games
Street pass was pretty cool, I was over the road truck driving when The 3DS was popular, I would tuck it in the driver's side door pocket of my truck, and then drive my 11 hours, and at the end of the day I'd have dozens of hits from other travelers. It made that miiverse game a lot of fun.
One lasted almost 10 years, tons of support, has excellent exclusive games, backwards compatible... *The other one was killed by their parent company a few years into it's life cycle*
Not to be rude but it’s pretty apparent from your comment that you have never played on a Vita, it has a lot of amazing games and full PSP back compat (if you mod it but even a toddler could mod a Vita) and it still gets insane fan ports until this day unlike the 3DS. Also it’s just better in terms of design: beautiful screen, Hall effect sticks, no flimsy hinges and more powerful hardware.
@@gajofixe76 I had a Vita but the only thing I played on my Vita was Hotline Miami and Persona 4. I had ZERO interest in playing PS3 ports and anything that seemed decent was quickly ported to the PS3 and PS4. Also where in my post did I knock on the hardware? The Vita is a gorgeous system but I wanted to play unique games and the Vita for me didn't deliver, especially from Sony's end. (Because they abandoned it) I also have a modded PSP with everything on it and I didn't want to mod my Vita especially with the terrible onboard storage. the cards were so expensive I never bothered with the digital store aside from a few indies which were easily available on other systems and PC. And again where in my post did I knock the modding community? IM NOT SAYING THEY DONT HAVE ONE, I'm criticizing Sony and their awful support for it, they could have done so many things to save it but they instantly folded and gave up.
While I dislike weird naming schemes as much as the next guy, I think PSP2 wouldn't have been a good name for it, since people could think "PlayStation Portable 2" is a portable PlayStation 2...
hands down the vita. It was so a head of it's time when it came out it took until stuff like the swtich to come out before something was better and even then it still holds up today. I don't know why sony gave up on it so fast it's a ps2.5 in your hands. I have a hacked vita and I stream a lot from my pc to it with moon light everything just works so perfect.
I think it because of engines. They didn't want to scale them to the system and Dev time. Split up teams from PS4 projects which is sad. Bend did a fair job with Syphon Filter on PSP, Resistance Retribution and Golden Abyss. Zipper for Unit 13/SOCOM games, Liverpool for WipEout. Japan Studios with Gravity Rush, support for Freedom Wars and Soul Sacrifice. Then publishing family friendly games and Indie support to then giving up. So 2014 sure but 2014-2016 I think is when they really gave up Indie support because management changes happened. The cinematic games PS4 era most remember not the 2013-2015 ones. Sure Order 1886 was 2015 but still. Remasters and leftover Infamous, Killzone, Knack and more. So some of the PS3 IPs with the PS4 transition IPs beginnings. Says a lot when WipEout Rush is gone on mobile now. Omega Collection is still great and 2048 while not my ideal WipEout game compared to Pulse on PSP and having only played HD to 2048, Pulse and bits of Pure yet to play WipEout 1 to Fusion.
I’m literally watching this video while waiting for my Vita to charge. Love both systems to death, both have some incredible exclusives. My favorite Vita only game is Muramasa Rebirth My favorite 3DS only game is Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology, which is also the best JRPG of all time, even better than Chrono Trigger Ironic that both of these are updates of older titles lol
I just bought a Vita last month and it's geniuenly insane to me how good of a console it is. If only sony gave it a bit more time and support, it might have been a success on par with the PSP. The system really just feels premium and the incredible selection of games is mindblowing.
I listened to music on my psp and vita, and I remember the sound quality being really good. with the psp, I recall it being better than a lot of other mp3 players from around that time.
Other thing with the Vita. It was SO GIMMICKY and tried to be a portable PS3 so hard that most developers couldn't make use of all it's traits. In contrast the 3DS only gimmick was lensesless 3D, but it wasn't something developers were forced to include. Nintendo gave up with the feature in 2014, or 13 with the Pokémon games and the 2DS.
I grew up playing the 3Ds during my teenage years but man playing Tomodachi Life,ORAS,X/Y,S/M,Animal Crossing New Leaf,and many more I intend to pick up more I played a lot of my DS games on it as well Backwards Compatibility was really good on the 3Ds.
From the standpoint of how playing games on the device feels I absolutely love the Vita, And I very genuinely wish I still had mine. Given that statement though, The 3DS had a lot more games and I had a lot of games on it because you could go pretty much anywhere and buy a 3DS game back in the day while you were lucky to see a Vita game even listed online or something because they just never sold and were non-existent because they weren't being distributed
They’re both such amazing handhelds 😭 The one thing that ruined the vita for me right when I fell in love with it again was those damn proprietary memory cards. I ordered a few sd2vitas to hopefully get around this, but sadly almost three months have past and I’ve heard nothing from the seller :/ The 3ds (2ds for me) just working with properly formatted sd cards was a breath of fresh air lol.
btw get both, especially if you like jrpgs. The few times a game isn’t somehow available on the vita, it’s almost always cause they’re nintendo exclusives. vita + 3ds combo is elite.
Vita with 3DS level support would have been goated... And Nintendo didn't support the 3DS as much as it could have lol. Vita with more support and microsd instead of proprietary is the Switch before the Switch. Huge miss by Sony in my opinion.
The fact that Scott doesn't scroll to the right side of the screen on the 3ds, doesn't even touch the buttons, but scrolls around and fiddles with the Vita makes me think he has a modded 3DS.
@@trashtrash2169he has a modded 3DS with all the applications that show its modified on a different screen. Modding is not strictly illegal but some nintendo fans get weird about it. He *MAY* have pirated games as well and would not want to show that publicly. I don’t feel like Scott did pirate any games but its a possibility. Plus modding a 3DS is so simple and takes an hour at max EDIT: I want to clarify! I don’t think that its morally wrong to pirate any 3DS games, I said *SOME* nintendo fans do think modding and piracy is wrong but I am not one of those people! I could not care less about what you do with your system.
It's all down to personal preferences in games. I tried everything with hacked 3DS but left with like 10 games I liked and finished on the system. I have around 40 physical cartridges for Vita and tons of digital releases and at least played through half of them. Vita was the ultimate indie gaming handheld that gen. Also PSP/PS1 games compatibility is more appealing for me than DS library. But I'm glad I have both Vita and 3DS just like PSP and DS.
I absolutely love my vita. Especially my hacked one. But my orginal one I would use PS4 link all the time to play elder scrolls online in my back yard or when going to take a deuce. Elden ring, dragon quest 11 and other rpgs. It would work pretty damn well. One of my favorite features. You could also be away from home and as long as your ps4 was connected to WiFi and you could connect as well you could play your games from anywhere. By far my favorite feature aside from all The amazing games it had on it that didn’t require anything. My vitas have way more use than my 3ds xl
I'm so glad handhelds are back, and heating up way more than the regular console wars. ROG Ally, Lenovo Legion, Ayaneo Air, AYN Loki, MSI Claw, and of course the Steam Deck. And those are JUST the x86 handhelds. I myself have a Retroid Pocket 3 which I love. Played Metroid 1 to 5 on there recently.
i modded a new 2dsxl for myself about a year and a half ago and it was the best decision i ever made. making the system region-free ALONE added a ton of value. i think the current secondhand prices for 3ds systems show that there is still a demand for weaker dedicated gaming handhelds and the ds line. i know that i'd be down for a proper gba/ds/3ds successor.
@@Mikauo_Xblade after i modded a system for myself, all my siblings wanted to get one too and we've had a heck of a time trying to find affordable 2ds/3ds systems. even the local retro shops have bumped their prices to keep up with stuff like ebay, it's nuts.
I had and loved a PSP my parents bought me after getting an A+ on a test and played my friends DS and 3DS and enjoyed them. After my step brother told me about the ridiculous memory card prices and lack of support, I was pushed away from it and continued playing games on my PSP and phone.
Wait, what? The memory card prices? They made you keep playing PSP? What are you talking about? The DS/3DS don't have memory cards. The PSP and VITA are the ones with crazy priced mem cards.
Seems to have a lot of the same stuff the 3ds has, maybe some more weird stuff outside of the standard homebrew games & retro emulators you'd find on 3ds
This is coming from a person who grew up with the 3DS: I really think the 3DS was a godsend for anything and my parents didn't allow me to have a phone or anything, so the best I had was my 3DS. The microphone quality was terrible but at least i could play music on the bus before school. Nowadays at 19 years of age, I of course have a phone but still appreciate I had the 3DS at that time, helped me in a pinch
Sony really had the mindshare, but it didn't translate to success. I got a 3DS on launch day and whenever I showed it off people would say "I want real games so I'm waiting for the Vita" (but I'm not sure they actually followed through on that). I feel Sony's lack of support with the PSVR1 (and PSVR2 whenever I check into it, I didn't upgrade) is similar to what happened with the Vita. It's the reason I'm hoping against hope that Nintendo does VR (and properly, not Labo). They go all in on supporting whatever hardware they release. Luigi's Mansion VR. I hope I hope I hope....
The social aspects of the NDS can't be understated. Pictochat and you could SHARE games. Like its actually wild my brother could be in the other room and we played a single copy of mario kart DS
No way Scott made a 50+ minute video comparing the Vita and 3DS and didn't mention Persona 4 Golden, the game that single handedly resurrected the Vita after Sony abandoned it
Super fun video, but I must say, big disagree on Killzone Mercenary. That was a super good shooter with a surprisingly well executed story and a lot of thoughtful mechanical changeups from previous KZ titles. 8P online multiplayer was also really good in that one! I wish some of Vitas better original exclusives came up in this vid, like Soul Sacrifice, Oreshika, and Freedom Wars, but I totally get that there’s only so much time and those titles are probably ones that didn’t interest you as much. Keep it up, dude!
Sony's handheld approach was trying to drag home console games to a handheld, while Nintendo more openly embraced the handheld as a different experience. IMO that's the big differentiator, and why especially the Vita is not as exciting - especially when it banked hard on a lot of generic big series instead of something more unique to pull actual videogame fans.
Seems like Sony had no trust in the handheld market so they jam packed it with specs, hoping other devs would jump at better capable hardware. Nintendo did it the cheap way (not that they sold it cheap lol) and injected their own ips like in the DS era. This sort of worked but by that time we were expecting better hardware. This was the writing on the wall that Nintendo chose to ignore and lead to the failure of the Wii U. The New Nintendo 3DS is what they should have started with. By the time it came, it was too late for it to leave an impact.
The streetpass groups really kept the system alive.. the vita just didn’t have the fan base.. It’s Almost as if the fans do all the work the companies don’t do 😅
You give phone hotspots a little too much credit Scott. My IPhone 15 Pro with full bars can’t even get my switch to get into a lobby in smash bros online.
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I had the terrible misfortune of being both a PS Vita and Wii U owner.
Hack your wii u into an emulation machine.
The perfectly balanced home console and handheld experience.
@@markus-ks9sfnot everyone can do that
Edit: I knew there would be a lot of gatekeepers in this comments section!
@@1mrcow143 Everyone can do that, it is piss simple
(also i have a PSVita and a Wii U, and my older sister had a Dreamcast, in my family we really love avant-gardist consoles that nobody bought lol)
I still have my vita and my 3ds xl. Plus tons of other systems.
I went to Japan at the end of November to mid-December and I took my 3DS with me to get StreetPass data. As it turns out, you can still run across a ton of people toting around the 3DS in Tokyo. Kinda wild.
I also took 3D pictures of Nintendo HQ in Kyoto with my 3DS. It was really dumb, but really awesome at the same time.
That’s awesome. The native Japanese love for Nintendo is wonderful. Cheers
The Japanese doesn't quickly give up on previous systems, especially handhelds.
In Japan, Tokyo especially, you can easily find pristine condition Gameboy Color and Gameboy advance consoles and games, as well as PSP and DS consoles and games.
The gaming landscape over there is just like a whole different planet.
The same people would made the Wonderswan and Neogeo Pocket Color... I always thought that aspect of Japanese culture and somewhat see a similar thing with Latin speaking countries. Where they are on older hardware. I find it more humbling and as someone who was still on the PS2 IN 2011-2012. I can relate. I was a late PS3 adopter.@@dawoodwilliams3652
@@dawoodwilliams3652 I assume your information is based off YT videos of content creators who went to Japan.
Imagine the timeline where Sony didnt sabotage the Vita with the overpriced memory cards
That's the timeline where world peace is achieved.
Would sell even less hardware and less available games because publishers would not want to their games to be pirated
@@livesinalazywonderland4021imagine idiots still think like this lmao. if that were the case the video game industry would have crashed since the super famicom. piracy has never had a significant impact in sales. people who pirate would never have bought them in the first place. use your brain.
To be fair (and I love the Vita) I was so excited and got it on release, but even in the first 1 - 2 years with full support the quality games it got still left me wanting. Maybe it was to expensive to develope basically console quality games for Handheld retail prices and even with cheaper memory cards we would have maybe got a few more AAA exclusives. Monster Hunter wasn‘t gonna be on there either way, which in my opinion may have been the biggest factor. It‘s like if the Nintendo 64 never got a Mario Game, it was THE killer app for PSP (together with GTA which also was missing)
???? the 3DS had an SD card slot too @@livesinalazywonderland4021
Fun fact, In the Vita itself, in the file names, it refers to itself as PSP2
Vita means life but was extremely short 😢
@@nancyjeremyolivierjust like life itself
@@itslvc5588 It's the longest thing you will ever do.
@@Omar_Littlethat’s what he said
Why did they pick such an ugly name? "Ask your doctor if PS Vita is right for you."
Then again, the proprietary memory to. Many schit decisions.
As someone who bought and modded both a 3DSxl and PSVita within the last few months, I think that the 3DS has more consistently good games made for the 3DS itself as well as a greater library of good games on the DS, GBA, and SNES, but the short-lived Vita has higher highs with more addictive, well-executed games and, since you can play PSP and PS1 games on it, you have every single golden age Square JRPG title available, every Final Fantasy up to 10, loads of other JRPGs, and a lot of more amazing action games. There were a lot of series that started on the PSP and ended on the 3DS, with the most notable example being 7th Dragon. If you can get both, then I highly recommend it! I spend like 8 hours a day at work playing my portables, and I don't think I'd ever going to be bored again.
3ds can also play ps1 games.
3ds can also play a FEW n64 games. (Though Vita can do more n64, I think)
very nice, god has blessed you
Whatre some of the best psp/vita jrpgs i can play on the vita? I too have both a modded 3ds and vita but i mostly play my 3ds.
Where are you working that you get paid to play on your portables??
I remember in the leadup to Vita, as iPhones were really taking off as the big new thing, gaming journalists were always wildly speculating about a PSP Phone. I really think Sony was lead astray by that and it ultimately killed the Vita. Vita didn't need 3G, didn't need front and rear touchscreens & cameras, or gyroscopic and accelerometer controls, or a suite of dorky social apps and games crammed with swipe gestures and motion gimmicks. I think if they'd cut all those "features" and launched $50 cheaper with a focus on quality portable games, Vita would've been a huge success and even had a strong chance to surpass the 3DS at a time when it was really struggling.
That being said, to this day I still consistently get in a few games on my Vita each year and I love the damn thing. It really was some great hardware that just never really got a fair chance due to a slew of bad decisions from Sony.
That is absolutely true. The Vita also in a lot of ways paralleled Android phones at the time where they'd introduce like 8-10 features that barely worked but looked good in the advertising instead of doing what Nintendo/Apple did/do and just nailing 1-2 features really well and as a result game devs either didn't know what to do with them so they ignored it or were pressured by Sony and the games became worse because of it. Cost was also a big problem since the Vita cost as much as a PS3 for the time and that's not counting the proprietary memory cards.
The way Ridge Racer on Vita worked basically mandated owning a 3G model. The game has nearly zero content when you're not playing online - this isn't to say you can't do a quick race, but that's the thing - literally zero of what you do is for anything other than getting better stuff to use online. There's no career for the game.
Really strange considering RR3D was a complete game just a year prior, but it's also a weird game given it launched before the console did, and has no eManual.
Sony did release a PSP Go style phone at one point, but I guess it wasn't supported by good enough games, so it wasn't a big hit.
I agree on it not needing the apps, but not so much the cameras and touch screens. One problem the PSP had was that it had no substitute for R2/L2 and R3/L3. The touch screens and pads on the PSVita were a clever solution to that problem. That way, way more complex games could be ported over. Something like the sly games just wouldn't work without them. Not to mention it would severely limit the games you could play via remote play. As for the cameras... I like playing Invizimals on my Vita.
@@jimberry9676 It supported PS1 games although from what I can tell for the US market it was basically only Crash Bandicoot, and that came with the phone. It's software emulation so if you used PSXperia to add your own backed up PS1 games, it would be hit and miss on if it works properly. One of the main issues for the Xperia Play was that it was just made at a very bad time for devices expected to have the cost of a phone (and functions of a phone to compete with other smartphones) to have enough power to actually run anything. Phones just didn't cost what they do now, and it's not like you were banking on software sales to recoup costs via licencing like a game console would expected to.
Forget the long running period where hardware kept getting shipped and never updated from Android 4 - the Xperia Play pre-dated that period, and released on Android 2.3.3/2.3.4 (which was current at the time), and supposedly it never got more updates because Ericsson had stability issues when they were working on anything beyond that. For comparison, in the same year (2011) the iPhone 4 was only 9 months old and not long in the tooth yet, the Nintendo 3DS launched a month prior, the PSP Go was a year and a half old (although the Xperia Play at least used microSD instead of M2 cards), Samsung launched the Galaxy S II just one month after the Xperia Play hit market, and both the first Note and iPhone 4s would launch 6 months after the Xperia Play, while the Vita itself would launch 8 months later in Japan and 10 months later for the rest of the world.
I don't know what it is but something about my mind can't accept that these consoles are basically _over_ . The latter half of the 2010s really went by faster than I thought and it's about to be 4 years since the pandemic. Man I remember when I got my 1st 3DS. That was such a magical time
man... I remember the N64 being new. I remember the GBA being new... and the Gamecube... and the DS. To this day, the Gamecube is the only console I've ever bought on launch
Not just that, handheld games are basically over.
@@SnakebitSTIonly one still standing is the the switch, but you really can't fit that in a pocket
@@SnakebitSTI The switch has sold 140 million units, what
@@SnakebitSTI are they though? the switch is still insanely popular and steam decks/portable PCs are godsends for portable pc games. though if you mean handstyle games i kinda get what you mean, it seems a bit harder to find good pick and up and play for a bit on the bus etc kinda games nowadays.
3ds was my go to for a time period when i was kinda falling out of gaming, it kept the passion alive during a dark time in my life
I have one and its amazing
Oh wow, and why did ur passion start dying out? you still play games man?
3ds saved gaming from the ps4/xbox one era.
regardless of their official runs, the vita and 3DS are portable powerhouses if you mod them. there's so much Stuff compatible with both it's nuts
The 3DS has a built-in GBA emulator that can run anything. They were simply lying when they gave us a reason they wouldn't give us any more GBA games on it.
I use my 3DS for GBA Fire Emblem/Pokemon romhacks on a physical handheld, it feels very authentic to play them like that.
@@tuvilloThe Vita has a whole Psp processor inside so you can mod it to be literally a psp
powerhouse 🤓
@@samu-chan???
@@tuvilloNot an emulator my guy. It literally just runs the native GBA on the DS processor inside of the 3DS.
One thing to note about the Vita's Kinda backwards is when modded the PS Vita has a full PSP mode which also can mod games to allow you to use the right analog stick for cameras. Modding also allows you to fix the biggest issue with the Vita;Memory Sticks as it allows to turn the game card slot into your storage space and use a cheap Micro SD to Game Card converter to be able to store everything.
You can play the entirety of the PSP catalogue without the need of modding it. Have already been a thing since 2021 and it was available on firmware 3.71, not sure about 3.73 though (I have a modded Vita so read an article/guide back then and never looked back)
@@GLDragon93you can mod every fw version nowadays
@@Elia01I know, I had mine since 3.60(system updated and broke it) now I'm on 3.65.
Just saying to the folks out there who don't want to CFW (because of stigma/piracy)
Yeah it’s called sd to vita
I am betting on the fresher corpse on winning this one
Both Corpses are good, but which is more rotten and fresh?
Well the 3DS got discontinued in 2020 and the PS Vita got discontinued in 2019. So it’s the 3DS
@@sahaprocks7751 Besides the eshop of Vita still up but yeah production wise or game releases (not counting homebrew) yes discontinued. And certain Vita services RIP PS3/Vita connection for PS1 game transfer and other aspects.
I wish that ps vita got more love
@@truth4funwell Sony didn't do much with it since it sold poorly
It's like Wii v PS3, different experiences you can't really compare, they do their own thing.
You bring up a very good point about how a lot of first-party PSP/Vita games were just the console games but portable, but also more than that, the PSP/Vita didn't have blockbuster franchises that they could call their own. Like Pokemon started on GB and consistently released mainline titles only on Nintendo handhelds, but PSP/Vita didn't have anything like that. Monster Hunter is the closest it came to that, but ironically, Capcom moved that series from PSP to 3DS.
Monster hunter started on the ps2. You're reference would be like claiming Animal Crossing for the nds, when it started on the n64. Also "to call their own" in reference to handheld exclusives, i dont know what you're getting at or why its a negative for the psp but not the nds. Its Nintendo, the same characters from the nes, snes, but to go. Thats how nintendo marketed the gameboy, a Nintendo home console in your pocket. Sony went the same ish route with the psp/vita being an extension to the home console. Before the wii u.
@@WillParker322this! Thank you for saying that, i find it odd if sony brings some of there ip’s to a handheld it’s a problem but when nintendo does it it’s wildly praised, kind of comes off weirdly biased, i personally enjoyed the psp’s games a lot more then the ds and as well as psvita and 3ds, just look at burnot legends for psp compared to the ds lol theirs no comparison
@nhatanhhoang3131 theres also a lot of others
@nhatanhhoang3131 they had many more titles then that
@nhatanhhoang3131 i know and the fact is many games for psp sold in the millions then what you mentioned
The Vita was HUGE in Japan meaning that these handhelds were only 'dead' outside of the country.
You can even see ot on other media! In that gen, if a character on manga/anime was playing something on portable, it was on a Vita
@@pokepawchannel Bingo, not to mention that many anime franchises have exclusive games on the Vita
It was fairly popular, but the Vita potentially sold less than the Wii U or at least very similar numbers. That's still pretty dead even if a lot of its sales were in one region.
The Vita sold fine in Japan, around 6 million, which Is not bad but Is around 1/4 of the 3DS and 1/3 of the PSP. It did comparable to the N64 in that country which historically has been considered a sales dissapointment in Japan.
I never had a Vita but I love both of these systems so much. I feel like one of the Vita's most effectual coffin nails was Capcom's decision to continue the Monster Hunter series on 3DS instead. I think that cost Vita quite a few sales. MH was one of the killer apps on PSP.
Definitely.
You love the vita so much... But you've never had one? ...What?
I had a vita, and he's right. I traded in my vita for a new nintendo 3ds xl and monster hunter 4u, specifically for that game.
As for games the Vita's nail in the coffin was their horrible FPS.
@@DarthSideous63I have a vita and the only game that had serious framerate issues was minecraft lol
Freedom Wars is one of the first Vita games I always think of. It's just a shame only like 7 people bought it because Sony didn't bother to market it. An absolute underrated gem, especially if you have someone to run multi-player missions with.
Damn I loved freedom wars. Never got my sentence down to 0 years… I might pop into it again this weekend
I went to 3 gamestops the day it came out and they all were sold out. I had to get it a couple days later. I remember that being a fun month, bayonetta had came out on the wii u and I think smash bros. I miss those days
It's truly a hidden gem. I had alot of fun times on the multi-player missions with one of my friends. I'm still mad that I didn't get all of the trophies before I mysteriously lost my Vita.
Freedom Wars was the first game I think of whenever I see the Vita! Such a great game and I had hoped for a while that it would be ported to the home consoles.
These two are some of my favorite devices in gaming. The big thing I will say is that Nintendo kept improving the library and features of the 3DS while Sony dropped the vita hard and fast. Both are great for having so many retro games on them. It's a shame how many people will never be able to experience this era and how many fantastic games it had without selling an arm or leg,
@@fritzthecat81583Ds is not that cheap. The best version of the 3DS is nearing $300
@@fritzthecat8158depends all on the model, if you want a SNES edition 3ds they go for 350$ and a model with dual IPS you could be paying up to 700$
Modding is easy
I'm actually on team original 3DS stylus: not only is it the most premium feeling (metal telescoping with good weight), its position meant it was unlikely to fall out due to gravity (a recurring problem with styli on the new 3DS).
my stylus never fell once from my new 3ds though ?
I've never had a stylus fall out on a DS pretty much ever lmao
I previously mentioned how when I was growing up in the Philippines, PSPs massively overshadowed the DS because of cheaper prices and piracy. When it came to the Vita VS 3DS, it appeared that the Vita once again dominated because of piracy and Sony being stronger and more beloved than Nintendo. 3DS unlike DS also didnt have R4 cards to rely on.
Announcer: IIn a world where sales numbers don't exist...
That's funny, in my side of the Philippines, there were more 3DS owners than Vita
The PSP back then was big in PH, if you have one you are considered rich back then. I own 3DS first and PSVita second and I still prefer the 3DS.
@@michaelschwader7944 sales numbers can be different depending on regions. The iPhone f.e. always sells a lot of units and has a high market share in regions like North America, Europe or Japan, while in India the market share of the iPhone is about 1%
@@vgamenerd1706me too, I haven't seen anyone with a PSVita. But I only saw maybe two 3DS where I'm from.
I adore the vita and actually used damn near every feature on the vita. Including the music app. It let me play my music over everything else, and it even let you play mp3 files so you could upload any music you want to and listen while you play. It was great
I still play mines it's modded nw too
A bit unrelated, but I remembered I used my DSi as my portable music player for two years before I used my phone, and man it was great
Sony with the vita: "weve tried nothing and were all out of ideas!"
I LOVED my Vita. I used it more than my 3DS. I had Katamari, LBP, Jet Set Radio, etc on my Vita. And I redownloaded all my digital PSP on my vita too. I kinda stopped using my 3DS shortly after the release of the “new” model. Vita appealed to me because it had a better friend system, party chat with friends, and I felt like it had better multiplayer and player interaction. Also, many servers are still active for the Vita to this day and I still play with my Vita friends. I also ripped my UMDs and copied them onto my Vita without having to mod it.
@@fritzthecat8158 deathmatch village, Minecraft, COD, Terraria, Sonic All-stars racing Transformed, Ratchet & Clank: Full Frontal Assault, Need for speed, LBP Vita recently got its servers revived, and packet captures for Killzone Mercenary’s servers were made available last year. There are games that have had their servers shutdown but there are communities working to get them back up. You can even play games that use ad-hoc mode online using ad-hoc party on PS3 and connecting your Vita. PSP games can also be played online on Vita as well.
@@fritzthecat8158I’m pretty sure black ops declassified still has a pretty active community
@@fritzthecat8158 call of duty declassified
@@fritzthecat8158almost none don’t tryto play online. However there’s tons of solo games that are amazing
Call of duty@@fritzthecat8158
Sony really pulled a dad going to get milk on the vita
Both the Vita and the Xperia Play were tragically abandoned. Sony should have released an Xperia Play successor since Android is much more mature and gaming-friendly than in 2011.
Not even close. It's more of a dad that just walked away with no warning at all
In 2004 my friends dad went out to get some milk…he hasn’t seen him since.
@@reggiedunlop2222get shrekt
In Japan, one of the bigger upsets was when Monster Hunter became exclusive to 3DS. PSP had Monster Hunter exclusivity but it did not carry over to the Vita.
The glitter on the original 3DS model is tacky as hell but I always really adored it. Between that and the pointless telescopic stylus, as a kid it felt not only premium but also otherworldly in a sense, which I imagine is part of what they were going for with how they marketed the 3D. It's far from the best design of any console but to this day it's my favorite.
You mentioned there not being much of a point in using the 3DS camera, but I actually have an interesting story about that.
In 2014, I went on a school trip to France. Naturally, I brought my 3DS with me to play on the plane. And I also started taking some pictures just for fun. And then I kept on taking pictures, regardless of the somewhat poor quality. Well, it turned out that for whatever reason, the outlet adapter wouldn’t work for my American 3DS charger, so my 3DS would be dead for the remainder of the trip.
I was honestly really sad about this, and some of the adults on the trip didn’t understand why. They thought it was stupid of me to want to play a game system when I’m seeing all these sights anyway, but it wasn’t about playing games for me on that trip. I ended up going to a game store in Paris and getting a European 3DS charger (which I still have to this day). I kept on taking 3D pictures throughout the rest of the trip, and by the end of it, those very same adults who didn’t understand why I needed my game system were in awe over the 3D photos I had taken during the trip.
Sure, they’re definitely not anywhere near as good quality as a REAL camera would have been, or even as good as a lot of smartphone cameras were at the time. But I don’t regret it for a second, because when I load up those same photos on my 3DS, I get to see them in a unique, pseudo-3D perspective that I wouldn’t be able to any other way.
The 3DS is one of my favorite handhelds of all time. It was a major part of my childhood and it’s home to one of my favorite series, Yo-Kai Watch. It also helps that the 3DS can play DS games as well. Even today, I still play my 3DS from time to time. Too bad the online servers are being shutdown for it later this spring.
It's a great system. Never able to play all the great Games i wanted, just because there was no time to play them all. This shows, how good the lineup was and still is
I think online was shut down a week or two ago
best handheld imo, switch is a better CONSOLE but as a handheld the lack of portability ruins it as one
Yo-kai Watch gang represent!
@@yourcollegedebt8384 still playing Yo-Kai Watch 3 and also made videos for evey QR Code
The 3d of the 3ds is the most amazing effect I experienced on portable system. The depth sensation is stunning, and even more when graphics seems pop out of the screen.
Most amazing console ever.
I think the 3DS is my favorite gaming device of all time. Being g able to play base DS games meant I can play a good number of my favorite games of all time on it. I love the clamshell design, makes it feel like it’s meant to put in your pocket to play on the go. And the dual screens was a great concept to spice up games with a unique spin, or to just relegate some quality of life like a map. I played my first 3DS to system death, and am well into my second one. I will always cherish it.
same. i had an og 3DS when i was a kid and i loved it to death, last year i bought a new 3DS Xl and man it is so beautiful even after all these years. the clamshell design is timeless, and the library is even better
I honestly find it hard to consider outdated hardware your favourite gaming device. I'm a PC guy now so maybe that's why. Many of my favourite games came from the GBA and Wii but I wouldn't wanna go back to them in terms of the hardware itself.
I've had a PS5 for less than a week and it's definitely my favourite console I've ever owned for the quality of life features alone
@@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep yeah i can kinda understand ur point. for example, i loved the wii but i’m not sure if i would want to play games on it again. but the new 3DS series isn’t really that old, they look and feel really good even by modern standards.
not to mention that they still have an advantage over everything else in the market right now, which is its portability.
even the switch isn’t as portable as a 3DS.
also, nostalgia plays a big role.
it might be a discontinued console, but there’s plenty of reasons why someone could still consider it their favorite gaming device even in 2024
@mu428 PS5 is not a good system. PC is better.
I grew up on Gba so the slab design appeals to me more than the clam shell
The PS Vita is a perfect example of why great hardware means nothing without great software to go with it. The PS Vita is an amazing piece of hardware that was WAY ahead of its time. The games were just not there though, and even Sony stopped supporting it pretty early on. Realistically, the only reason it's even as popular as it is now is because of all the support and development done by the community.
With the 3DS, Nintendo didn't over-engineer it and supported the hell out of it since it was the only thing that was keeping the company afloat at the time due to the WiiU performing so terribly. At the end of the day, the PS Vita never really stood a chance.
Western third parties made the PSP survive besides the language coaches and COD on DS so them going to mobile showed things.
I agree Sony over engineered it. Thinking about premium quality but like with Pocket PCs or their phones (Sony like their niches) of the time should they have dropped off due to the iPhone or other possibilities maybe but Vita has its moments it would be disappointing if they never made it as I enjoy so much besides it's limits.
Wii U/Vita I don't care what western third parties it lacks I don't care for them but that's not most people either. I enjoyed the mobile games, the Indies, the Japanese third party and first party of both systems.
For me 3DS was that but the N64 remasters never played as only owned a DS/Wii and up prior and others I didn't get to experience that are for 3DS.
Indies/Japanese games made the Vita. Android ports to Vita and homebrew does now.
It never was dead unless people ignore what they have no interest in. It's fair but I don't think a Bioshock Vita like moment would save it at all.
The hardware is good but yeah even then Travellers Takes made mobile ports of Lego games to 3DS/Vita and they sucked.
So even kids games on systems to fill in gaps of software they didn't care.
3DS is good for sure though I enjoy both.
First party Sony games were a thing but impact wasn't the case with them of PS3 IPs I can see why PS4 they changed direction but that direction forced me to not care for their future and why I count Vita and PS3 the end for me. Early PS4 too all the Last of Us/open worlds and cinematic game direction turned me away but pushed me to third parties more and their old IPs I missed out on retro consoles.
I also don't think you need a new game from a series on handhelds like console but clearly many think so.
For some IPs sure but I can say that with Mario and Pokemon and Zelda. Sony doesn't push IPs that way unless it's remasters while Nintendo has remasters they do push spin offs or yes sequels on their handhelds more I think. Not a bad thing though but they have Mario in sports, platformers, karts, puzzle, and paper RPGs. So many places. Sony doesn't have that but tries I guess to nowadays more..
It's funny you say that, because while I care a lot about Western 3rd party support for home consoles, I do not care at all for handhelds. I never thought about it before, but I've got no Western developed handheld games represented in my library. None. Game Boy through New 3DS, including PSP and Vita, not a single Western developed game. I'm kind of shocked to realize that.
You see, if Sony had actually advertised the Vita properly, people would know that it's library was at least a match for the 3DS in terms of size and quality, with it making up for us lower number of explosives with the number of games that could only be played portably on the Vita (at least until the Switch and the Steam Deck came out years later) and a ton less shovelware.
I can't really think of a single genre where the Vita doesn't have at least a comparable number of high quality games to the 3DS in, and what it lacks in physical backwards compatibility or more than made up for with better digital backwards compatibility (as much as I like Link's Awakening and the two Oracle games, PS1's Alundra was better than all the put together, and I would have access to it even if I had bought it on my PS3 years earlier) and Remote Play.
I only just got a Vita a little under three years ago but the first game I tried was Tearaway, and what a great first impression that was. I haven't played the PS4 re-release but I imagine some of the game's magic is lost due to the Dualshock 4's absence of the Vita camera and backside touch pad. Honestly, I can't see the game being on 3DS due to the handheld's own limitations, so I have to give the Vita props for its own creativity in design.
Tearaway would’ve been an amazing launch title
From what I've heard, Tearaway PS4 is more of a reimagining for the PS4.
They're the same stories, but different adventures.
Put many hours into both and I’d find it difficult to say which is better, I think the best thing overall is that they’re both so different meaning if you have both the range of variety is incredible.
It may not be a Scott the Woz video about the Vita, but at least he talks about it for once. I respectively really favor the Vita over the 3DS because of its excellent use in modding over the 3DS’s, but mainly because of the amount of indie games it had on there that I think really helped indie devs peak.
Vita is awesome but it doesn’t come close to the 3DS and I’m taking about without mods. It’s sad to see that’s what it took for the vita to become worth playing for many.
I’m a Nintendo and PS fan so I always get there systems regardless the outcome.
Agreed, besides the brief mention in the Game Cases episode.
@belikewatersf1051 eh, I wouldn't go that far. Aside from Monster Hunter and Nintendo titles that might not always appeal to everyone, there wasn't much the 3DS actually had over the Vita that was really compelling. For me, the single most enjoyable game on 3DS was the remake of Ace Combat 2. A shame Vita never got an Ace Combat game.
indie games peak on PC, no other gaming platform help them like Steam
@@belikewatersf1051you cant just remove mods from the equation if youre talking vita, like the entire lifeblood of vita is how the modding scene carried what sony left. i can play fuckin vice city and vice city stories on the same console. not to mention exclusives like catherine full body and monster hunter frontier with patches. you just get the true potential of the vita unlocked with the thing modded. either way, i love the 3ds, but i notice more that the games on the 3ds feel alot more.. portable, like theyre just cut up and less feature filled than what youd get on the vita. compare games like 3d land, pokemon, and mario kart to stuff like uncharted, littlebigplanet, persona 4 golden, and modnation racers. 3ds games are built around moments of fun and picking up the game for 30 minutes and dropping it after, which makes it more lean and less fun for hour+ long sit throughs, you feel like the experience is alot cheaper than what you can get on a vita, which just happens to have so many kick ass titles that are fully featured, essentially just actual ports or special installments of ps2/3 games. they level feel strapped for content or downsized. it doesnt make for the best kind of drop in and play experience, but at the same time, the vita just has those games, just play hot shots golf or windjammers. i think in all cases, the vita takes the dub, i just think people dont realize it because theyre afraid to experiment with games outside their comfort zone. i play the shit outta project diva, and i wouldve never gotten invested in p4g if it wasnt for the vita community. vita means life
I ended up falling in love with the Vita after getting one for the first time in 2021 or so. Even with never owning one in the time when it wasn't a corpse, I'm still consistently impressed by the graphics it can pull off, and the extensive PS1/PSP library you can purchase. It's library was unfortunately just very limited after launch, and was only really worthwhile if you love JRPGs and Indies.
I got my vita in 2018 and I experienced my first game cancelation. I was looking forward to the Catherine Full Body port on vita and they just went radio silent on the release after announcement except in Japan. It would eventually come out on switch instead. I love my vita, everyday I'm finding new reasons to come back to it.
repatch it and play cath whit english@@onemirrionyen
@@onemirrionyen It's a bit late but Catherine Full Body got a PSVita release, just not outside Japan. Nevertheless there's a translation patch that was released shortly after for CFW Vitas. The guy hand wrote the translation from the ps4 version and later fixed it when he was able to extract it on a CFW PS4.
Man the Vita is so underrated and underappreciated. I absolutely loved my Vita, sadly Sony did not. Still had some great games though.
In my opinion, I feel like the Vita is overrated and gets way too much credit from the community even though it barely has any noteworthy exclusives. The 3DS dominates the Vita when it comes to it's games library, even though it is significantly weaker and not as good design-wise.
As a console from a hardware standpoint , the Vita is good, very good in fact (sans the stupid memory card BS).
But in terms of games, the Vita is lacking. I mean, there isn't a single Vita exclusive that has permeated into the mainstream. The one that got the most attention were maybe Gravity Rush and Persona 4 Golden, which were all ported to other platforms, the latter of which just being a remaster/definitive edition too
What are these Vita games you talk of? And please don’t bring up some PS1 and PS2 JRPGs.
@@rj_4mp100 Soul Sacrifice, Gravity Rush, Uncharted Golden, Freedom Wars, Muramasa Rebirth, Odin Sphere, just to name a few off the top of my head.
@@jimmythegamer2231 I’d take LBP Vita over Mario Maker 3DS anyday.
@@MrSupersonic2012 See that's the problem. Some of those games aren't new games made specifically for the Vita, they're just ports of older games. Odin Sphere and Murasama to be exact. Meanwhile, Gravity Rush - which was easily the Vita's best and most notably exclusive - was ported to PS4 like three years later. Freedom Wars launched to mixed reviews despite being a solid game. Uncharted, Killzone, Soul Sacrifice, etc. were the real highlights, but they weren't really enough because they didn't feel like essential experiences, as Scott the Woz once said lol. I think that was the Vita's biggest problem. I could count the amount of mainstream-appealing "essential" Vita exclusives on my two hands.
Dont forget the official Circle Pad Pro grip which was a big plastic grip for the original 3ds that added an additional circle pad to the right of the entire device.
Only for couple of games though that accessory was lame
The Vita's modding scene is also still going strong in 2024. With games like Simpsons hit and run and hollow knight being ported over. Not to mention the entire Rockstar Classic games (GTA Sans, GTA III, GTA Vice city, Bully and Max Payne) are ported and fully playable.
Most of the games ported are mobile versions but that does mean other mobile games (ie. Night in the woods, Double Dragon 4, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit) do get ported to the Vita.
I prefer the Vita to the 3DS. Being able to play Vita, PSP and PS1 games on the go is awesome. The OLED screen is also great as well. Most of the games on 3DS don’t really interest me but it’s great as well.
Very fun to see your perspective on these handhelds! I actually grew up with the PSP and Vita and I found so much fun with so many games on both platforms! That being said, I was always the person who dug around for more niche and interesting experiences (which Sony was also still providing at the time with groups like Japan Studio and whatnot), never always those major AAA games, so that does definitely inform differing perspectives on the experience of these systems. Regardless, I wouldn't trade my experiences with any of these platforms, and there's so much fun that can still be found and enjoyed today.
I just wanna say I've been really enjoying these videos, it feels like going into a time machine and remembering all this crazy stuff that happened in gaming in the 2010s. Super fun to watch.
embarrassingly, this is my favorite era of handhelds (or maybe consoles in general?)... I still play my 3ds regularly and recently got a vita for the first time and I love it 😭
it's kinda like how people always think the shows they watched as a kid were peak.
3DS is the only good hardware ever made. Everything else is bad. In every vertical and genre. Too bad non XL New 3DSes are unicorns.
@@trashtrash2169they are? I got my non xl new 3ds with the face cover options for cheap on Amazon years ago.. I love that thing
@@trashtrash2169unicorns huh what that mean ???
@@zlvnomaybe colorful? Idk weird comment
What have you played on it so far?
The 3G model can be modded to replace the 3G functionality with a straight up micro SD card. I’ve done it to mine, it’s a game changer.
I love both my 3DS and vita in different ways. I played my 3DS more for sure but I still play both every so often my 3DS more though. Great video man. They both had great music for the shop and a lot of personality
The overpriced memory cards was the only reason the Vita failed. I remember loving my PSP and specifically not buying a Vita because of the memory card cost.
The Vita is timeless in design to me. Perfect execution.
Have you seen the menu? It doesn't matter what the outside looks like when you're only ever looking at that eyesore. Also, I think the 3ds looks better, especially the non XL New 3DS.
@@trashtrash2169 hardware ≠ software
@khightofjustice2828 Sega PlayStation?
Lack of the L2/R2 buttons is stupid, many games from PS1 are unplayable because of that.
well going from all the issues PSP had, then yes it makes sense. maybe they should have focused on software design as much as they did on hardware
The Vita still feels like a premium Handheld from today, while the 3DS has a solid gaming library around almost every single big Nintendo brand. Good time for handhelds, but the Vita only really competes with the 3ds once modding is in involved - once you do mod it though it becomes one of the most fun devices I‘ve ever owned
It is still in 2024
The VITA d-pad was the last great d-pad ever made.... the android/PC hanhelds of today try to replica its feeling
The New 3DS c-stick feels entirely meant for Monster Hunter and in that respect, its placement is great and it feels pretty fine to use.
Yeah, I kinda think n3DS was made just for MonHun.
If Sony supported the vita it’d been amazing but unfortunately they didn’t still love the thing though but what could’ve been
The Vita had two main problems which prevented me from buying it
1st was the lack of TV out. I really loved the TV out feature of my PSP and used it a lot. Vita not having that was a downgrade to me. By the time the PS TV thing came out, it was too little too late.
2nd was Sony's other handheld they released at the same time. The Xperia Play Playstation phone. It was much more appealing to buy that with the ability to emulate all my 8 and 16 bit games, and even play most my favorite PS1 (and a few N64) games. Also, there was a decent selection of mobile games that even had controller support.
One has Planet Robobot, the other does not have Planet Robobot.
Case closed.
Stereoscopic 3D vs. pancake
I love when Scott talks about something for an hour!
Funny thing: If you modify a Vita and look how things are referred to inside the system; even sony developers internally address vita as PSP2 and many system directories, files configs etc are referred as PSP2 - like crashlogs are named PSP2 and so on.
good to know
i always wanted a PSP or Vita, Sony knows how to make a comfy controller feel, after getting the PS5 controller i can't go back to the old Xbox360 controller or Switch Pro, looking back at the 3DS and PSP years they were pretty good for the time, good handheld and fantastic games
Street pass was pretty cool, I was over the road truck driving when The 3DS was popular, I would tuck it in the driver's side door pocket of my truck, and then drive my 11 hours, and at the end of the day I'd have dozens of hits from other travelers. It made that miiverse game a lot of fun.
One lasted almost 10 years, tons of support, has excellent exclusive games, backwards compatible... *The other one was killed by their parent company a few years into it's life cycle*
Not to be rude but it’s pretty apparent from your comment that you have never played on a Vita, it has a lot of amazing games and full PSP back compat (if you mod it but even a toddler could mod a Vita) and it still gets insane fan ports until this day unlike the 3DS.
Also it’s just better in terms of design: beautiful screen, Hall effect sticks, no flimsy hinges and more powerful hardware.
@@gajofixe76 I had a Vita but the only thing I played on my Vita was Hotline Miami and Persona 4. I had ZERO interest in playing PS3 ports and anything that seemed decent was quickly ported to the PS3 and PS4. Also where in my post did I knock on the hardware? The Vita is a gorgeous system but I wanted to play unique games and the Vita for me didn't deliver, especially from Sony's end. (Because they abandoned it) I also have a modded PSP with everything on it and I didn't want to mod my Vita especially with the terrible onboard storage. the cards were so expensive I never bothered with the digital store aside from a few indies which were easily available on other systems and PC. And again where in my post did I knock the modding community? IM NOT SAYING THEY DONT HAVE ONE, I'm criticizing Sony and their awful support for it, they could have done so many things to save it but they instantly folded and gave up.
@@gajofixe76I mean he isn’t wrong Sony did drop support only a few years in
@@gajofixe76ermmm, the 3ds got a mario sunshine fan port and a ps1 emulator and sonic mania fan port and even a gta 3 and gta vice city fan port soooo
@@gajofixe76 And guess which one died first
While I dislike weird naming schemes as much as the next guy, I think PSP2 wouldn't have been a good name for it, since people could think "PlayStation Portable 2" is a portable PlayStation 2...
hands down the vita. It was so a head of it's time when it came out it took until stuff like the swtich to come out before something was better and even then it still holds up today. I don't know why sony gave up on it so fast it's a ps2.5 in your hands. I have a hacked vita and I stream a lot from my pc to it with moon light everything just works so perfect.
I think it because of engines. They didn't want to scale them to the system and Dev time. Split up teams from PS4 projects which is sad.
Bend did a fair job with Syphon Filter on PSP, Resistance Retribution and Golden Abyss.
Zipper for Unit 13/SOCOM games,
Liverpool for WipEout. Japan Studios with Gravity Rush, support for Freedom Wars and Soul Sacrifice. Then publishing family friendly games and Indie support to then giving up. So 2014 sure but 2014-2016 I think is when they really gave up Indie support because management changes happened. The cinematic games PS4 era most remember not the 2013-2015 ones. Sure Order 1886 was 2015 but still. Remasters and leftover Infamous, Killzone, Knack and more. So some of the PS3 IPs with the PS4 transition IPs beginnings.
Says a lot when WipEout Rush is gone on mobile now. Omega Collection is still great and 2048 while not my ideal WipEout game compared to Pulse on PSP and having only played HD to 2048, Pulse and bits of Pure yet to play WipEout 1 to Fusion.
21:16 the thing with the Vita is that it tried way too hard to feel like a high-end smartphone. Rather than a portable game console.
I will say the C stick was really appreciated for the monster hunters.
Also resident evil too
Yeah idk what he’s on about the C Stick
50:40 actually Scott, Vita can play Metal Gear Solid 1, 2, 3, Peace Walker & Portable Ops ☝️🤓
I cant believe that Scott actually bought a PsVita. This is so refreshing 😅
vita pros: you can play every danganronpa on it
vita cons: you can play every danganronpa on it
I’m literally watching this video while waiting for my Vita to charge.
Love both systems to death, both have some incredible exclusives.
My favorite Vita only game is Muramasa Rebirth
My favorite 3DS only game is Radiant Historia Perfect Chronology, which is also the best JRPG of all time, even better than Chrono Trigger
Ironic that both of these are updates of older titles lol
I just bought a Vita last month and it's geniuenly insane to me how good of a console it is. If only sony gave it a bit more time and support, it might have been a success on par with the PSP. The system really just feels premium and the incredible selection of games is mindblowing.
And even if Sony neglected it there's a lot you can do with a modded Vita.
I listened to music on my psp and vita, and I remember the sound quality being really good. with the psp, I recall it being better than a lot of other mp3 players from around that time.
Other thing with the Vita.
It was SO GIMMICKY and tried to be a portable PS3 so hard that most developers couldn't make use of all it's traits.
In contrast the 3DS only gimmick was lensesless 3D, but it wasn't something developers were forced to include. Nintendo gave up with the feature in 2014, or 13 with the Pokémon games and the 2DS.
Planet Robobot (2016) still uses it.
I grew up playing the 3Ds during my teenage years but man playing Tomodachi Life,ORAS,X/Y,S/M,Animal Crossing New Leaf,and many more I intend to pick up more I played a lot of my DS games on it as well Backwards Compatibility was really good on the 3Ds.
It's unfair cuz the Switch replaced the 3DS but the most PS users got is the shitty PS Portal
From the standpoint of how playing games on the device feels I absolutely love the Vita, And I very genuinely wish I still had mine. Given that statement though, The 3DS had a lot more games and I had a lot of games on it because you could go pretty much anywhere and buy a 3DS game back in the day while you were lucky to see a Vita game even listed online or something because they just never sold and were non-existent because they weren't being distributed
They’re both such amazing handhelds 😭
The one thing that ruined the vita for me right when I fell in love with it again was those damn proprietary memory cards. I ordered a few sd2vitas to hopefully get around this, but sadly almost three months have past and I’ve heard nothing from the seller :/
The 3ds (2ds for me) just working with properly formatted sd cards was a breath of fresh air lol.
btw get both, especially if you like jrpgs.
The few times a game isn’t somehow available on the vita, it’s almost always cause they’re nintendo exclusives.
vita + 3ds combo is elite.
I got my SD2Vita from Amazon and it came quickly, you probably got yours from AliExpress which is a mistake
2 great very hackable handhelds, I recommend them both.
Pros and cons of this video
Pros: Both consoles are pretty glossy so we can see Scott's funny camera light
Cons: none
I will never forgive Sony for what they did with the vita's storage.
A memory card in 2012 is ridiculous
biggest L it basically killed it from the jump
MJ The Experience is seriously one of my fav games on 3ds and vita.
Vita with 3DS level support would have been goated... And Nintendo didn't support the 3DS as much as it could have lol.
Vita with more support and microsd instead of proprietary is the Switch before the Switch. Huge miss by Sony in my opinion.
I love how these videos are set up and give the same energy as dankpods with a woz twist
The fact that Scott doesn't scroll to the right side of the screen on the 3ds, doesn't even touch the buttons, but scrolls around and fiddles with the Vita makes me think he has a modded 3DS.
What are you saying?
@@trashtrash2169he has a modded 3DS with all the applications that show its modified on a different screen. Modding is not strictly illegal but some nintendo fans get weird about it. He *MAY* have pirated games as well and would not want to show that publicly. I don’t feel like Scott did pirate any games but its a possibility. Plus modding a 3DS is so simple and takes an hour at max
EDIT:
I want to clarify! I don’t think that its morally wrong to pirate any 3DS games, I said *SOME* nintendo fans do think modding and piracy is wrong but I am not one of those people! I could not care less about what you do with your system.
@@undefendernintendo fans are weird, what the hell is wrong with modifying something you own?
@@undefenderwho the fuck cares what these manchildren think? They're irrelevant.
Nintendo doesnt even sell 3ds games anymore. Who tf cares if it is modded or not?@@undefender
I’m still mad how dirty Sony did the Vita. Now they got the Portal and it dare have same abbreviation as the PSP lol
It's all down to personal preferences in games. I tried everything with hacked 3DS but left with like 10 games I liked and finished on the system. I have around 40 physical cartridges for Vita and tons of digital releases and at least played through half of them. Vita was the ultimate indie gaming handheld that gen. Also PSP/PS1 games compatibility is more appealing for me than DS library.
But I'm glad I have both Vita and 3DS just like PSP and DS.
I absolutely love my vita. Especially my hacked one. But my orginal one I would use PS4 link all the time to play elder scrolls online in my back yard or when going to take a deuce. Elden ring, dragon quest 11 and other rpgs. It would work pretty damn well. One of my favorite features. You could also be away from home and as long as your ps4 was connected to WiFi and you could connect as well you could play your games from anywhere. By far my favorite feature aside from all
The amazing games it had on it that didn’t require anything. My vitas have way more use than my 3ds xl
I'm so glad handhelds are back, and heating up way more than the regular console wars. ROG Ally, Lenovo Legion, Ayaneo Air, AYN Loki, MSI Claw, and of course the Steam Deck. And those are JUST the x86 handhelds. I myself have a Retroid Pocket 3 which I love. Played Metroid 1 to 5 on there recently.
I loved the PS Vita so much. It was I think the first console I was genuinely hyped for
i modded a new 2dsxl for myself about a year and a half ago and it was the best decision i ever made. making the system region-free ALONE added a ton of value. i think the current secondhand prices for 3ds systems show that there is still a demand for weaker dedicated gaming handhelds and the ds line. i know that i'd be down for a proper gba/ds/3ds successor.
ive been wanting to buy a new one and the prices are crazy indeed
@@Mikauo_Xblade after i modded a system for myself, all my siblings wanted to get one too and we've had a heck of a time trying to find affordable 2ds/3ds systems. even the local retro shops have bumped their prices to keep up with stuff like ebay, it's nuts.
@@Ningy909 i actually found one just now and bought it for 250 australian dollars, which is actually not that much.
@@Mikauo_Xblade congrats! happy gaming, man. i adore my entire ds collection.
Slapped with a wave of nostalgia when you mentioned infinity blade. Completely forgot about that gem
I had and loved a PSP my parents bought me after getting an A+ on a test and played my friends DS and 3DS and enjoyed them. After my step brother told me about the ridiculous memory card prices and lack of support, I was pushed away from it and continued playing games on my PSP and phone.
Wait, what? The memory card prices? They made you keep playing PSP? What are you talking about? The DS/3DS don't have memory cards. The PSP and VITA are the ones with crazy priced mem cards.
Are you talking about the VITA? The PSP also had memory cards, though.
God, hearing the Gravity Daze/Rush music in the background, it's so nostalgic to me. Beautiful game.
The homebrew community is awesome for the 3DS, makes me wonder how good it is for the Vita.
I would say just as good, at the very least.
Just as good, maybe even better
Seems to have a lot of the same stuff the 3ds has, maybe some more weird stuff outside of the standard homebrew games & retro emulators you'd find on 3ds
This is coming from a person who grew up with the 3DS: I really think the 3DS was a godsend for anything and my parents didn't allow me to have a phone or anything, so the best I had was my 3DS. The microphone quality was terrible but at least i could play music on the bus before school. Nowadays at 19 years of age, I of course have a phone but still appreciate I had the 3DS at that time, helped me in a pinch
Sony really had the mindshare, but it didn't translate to success. I got a 3DS on launch day and whenever I showed it off people would say "I want real games so I'm waiting for the Vita" (but I'm not sure they actually followed through on that). I feel Sony's lack of support with the PSVR1 (and PSVR2 whenever I check into it, I didn't upgrade) is similar to what happened with the Vita. It's the reason I'm hoping against hope that Nintendo does VR (and properly, not Labo). They go all in on supporting whatever hardware they release. Luigi's Mansion VR. I hope I hope I hope....
Nintendo dropped the New 3DS and Wii U hard.
Nice use of the gravity rush ost. Also chuckled at the stylus placement part 😂
The social aspects of the NDS can't be understated. Pictochat and you could SHARE games.
Like its actually wild my brother could be in the other room and we played a single copy of mario kart DS
you could also do that with a 3ds, i keep forgetting that. I played mario kart 7 with friends with only 1 cartridge!
No way Scott made a 50+ minute video comparing the Vita and 3DS and didn't mention Persona 4 Golden, the game that single handedly resurrected the Vita after Sony abandoned it
Super fun video, but I must say, big disagree on Killzone Mercenary. That was a super good shooter with a surprisingly well executed story and a lot of thoughtful mechanical changeups from previous KZ titles. 8P online multiplayer was also really good in that one! I wish some of Vitas better original exclusives came up in this vid, like Soul Sacrifice, Oreshika, and Freedom Wars, but I totally get that there’s only so much time and those titles are probably ones that didn’t interest you as much. Keep it up, dude!
i keep forgetting scott is colorblind, bec to my untrained eye he does an amazing job color-grading his videos
I will always be a vita supporter and now with the modding community popping off idk man i just see myself coming back to the vita more
Sony's handheld approach was trying to drag home console games to a handheld, while Nintendo more openly embraced the handheld as a different experience. IMO that's the big differentiator, and why especially the Vita is not as exciting - especially when it banked hard on a lot of generic big series instead of something more unique to pull actual videogame fans.
Seems like Sony had no trust in the handheld market so they jam packed it with specs, hoping other devs would jump at better capable hardware.
Nintendo did it the cheap way (not that they sold it cheap lol) and injected their own ips like in the DS era. This sort of worked but by that time we were expecting better hardware. This was the writing on the wall that Nintendo chose to ignore and lead to the failure of the Wii U. The New Nintendo 3DS is what they should have started with. By the time it came, it was too late for it to leave an impact.
The streetpass groups really kept the system alive.. the vita just didn’t have the fan base..
It’s Almost as if the fans do all the work the companies don’t do 😅
You give phone hotspots a little too much credit Scott. My IPhone 15 Pro with full bars can’t even get my switch to get into a lobby in smash bros online.