Looks like you have that file marked off to make a knife. Either way, you mentioned your files get clogged. Rub chalk on them before using them. It prevents that from happening.
I am doing my second one now, and it's fairly course. It's been in there about 12 hours and I think it needs more. If it's fine it would be quicker, but an hour doesn't seem like much for such a weak acid! It has to actually eat away some of the steel.
Just sharpened up a file the other day using heated vinegar. (It will work faster). Worked great! As a plus it forces a patina on the metal which will help prevent rusting, mine turned nearly black. I just made sure to lightly oil it afterwards. Thanks for the vid, gave me some good ideas.
@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 I do and in know vinegar is mild compare to other acid such as hydrochloric acid etc so its not necessary to dilute the solution before you dispose it
My old double cut bastard had so much rust on it it just slide like ice on mild steel... Guess I was bored... so I put 5% white vin in a pc of tubing and brushed the heck out of the file scraped it some with a deck screw and put it in for 5 hrs. took it out wire brushed and stuck it in Baking soda and dish soap water and soaked over night. Brushed again... detailed some with a screw and back in vin... soaked 5 hrs and wire brushed again and nuetalized in soda water again... then brushed and sprayed it with Knocker loose and let set for 3 hrs and wired brushed again... All total 8 hrs in vin... and over a hr of labor. LOL NOT COST EFFECTIVE BUT THE FILE IS 80% OF THE NEW SIMMONS I JUST BOUGHT FOR $17 and i am impressed... silly thing cuts and it looked almost like it had laid in a field for several years.
I'm very dubious about this: if acid (vinegar) removed a layer of metal then surely it removes from the tips of the teeth as well? That would be more likely to blunt than sharpen? There are a LOT of these videos on the same supposed effect but none of them I have seen ever attempts to quantify how much better the files are after 'sharpening'.
You can de-rust and clean files, but you cannot sharpen them. Any edged tool gets dull over time. All the acetic acid in vinegar does is etch the steel.
They don't make them like they used to, buy a set right now and take a close look at the machining, it's utter garbage. If you've got an old set that was actually made in Canada or the UK, keep that stuff in good condition, they simply don't make them like that anymore. Hell the angle files mostly come twisted.
Acid can, and does, sharpen files. This popular mechanics article covers a commercial "system" but it's an acid bath sharpening system nonetheless. They used a microscope to prove it worked. The Scientific Method really is a powerful tool! ;-) books.google.com/books?dq=Chemical+file+sharpening&hl=en&id=seMDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA64&ots=Bse9zY6U2B&pg=PA64&sa=X&sig=_zpkvcVtRj51XcbcOImlNjJ-y3w&source=bl&ved=0ahUKEwibldXZ-YrQAhXBFZQKHW8cBGwQ6AEIPDAE#v=onepage&q=Chemical%20file%20sharpening&f=false
@@giottolaudo7672 The article you linked is essentially an ad for a cleaning kit. Did you read it? In don't think you understand what the scientific method means, either. First one starts with an observation which in turn leads to forming a hypothesis. That's steps one and two. The third step is to test the hypothesis and arrive at a theory - step four. The files used in the magazine test didn't look nearly as worn as the file in the video. It was shiny from all the wear before the vinegar and shiny after the vinegar. Acid won't magically repair tools. IMHE, soaking dulled files in acid does very little, almost nothing. Hence, the hypothesis is that acid has a very mild effect on sharpening files. No, I have not tested this in hopes of forming a theory.
@@felixf5211 Nothing "magically" repairs anything. And I don't *care* how you think the files in the article "looked" that's an *opinion* not based on objective testing or verified by actual examination of the items in question. I'm *especially* uninterested in your opinion regarding my understanding of the scientific method. Indeed I'm uninterested in explaining to you why you are wrong. Feel free to declare victory, secret king. Run along and gamma elsewhere. I'm going to block you now, kay? Life is too short to waste on gamma posturing.
@@giottolaudo7672 Words have meanings. The scientific method is a defined term - feel free to google it. I'm not sure why you're this upset over a link to an ad presented as an article that you posted and obviously did not read. Not my fault. Can't speak for the scientific community, but on a personal level I'd love to see your explanation of the scientific method. The folks who think the Earth is flat have their own take on the process. Please share your wisdom. BTW, I had no idea what 'gamma posturing.' meant, so I ran a quick google search. This was the most relevant result - "Gamma motor neurons control tone of muscle. In decerebrate rigidity, the reticulospinal tracts are cut, so the gamma motor neurons start firing excessively." Given the context, this makes no sense, either. Really, are you OK? Maybe call a friend? Edit: doesn't look like your block worked.
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Looks like you have that file marked off to make a knife. Either way, you mentioned your files get clogged. Rub chalk on them before using them. It prevents that from happening.
I am doing my second one now, and it's fairly course. It's been in there about 12 hours and I think it needs more. If it's fine it would be quicker, but an hour doesn't seem like much for such a weak acid! It has to actually eat away some of the steel.
Just sharpened up a file the other day using heated vinegar. (It will work faster). Worked great! As a plus it forces a patina on the metal which will help prevent rusting, mine turned nearly black. I just made sure to lightly oil it afterwards. Thanks for the vid, gave me some good ideas.
remember to neutralize the acid of the vinegar using baking soda and water solution.
Craig Szwed Vinegar is not that acidic.
@@user-iw2mo7yu4d i'm necroposting but... have you ever mixed baking soda and vinegar?
@@expertoflizardcorrugation3967 I do and in know vinegar is mild compare to other acid such as hydrochloric acid etc so its not necessary to dilute the solution before you dispose it
@@user-iw2mo7yu4d the man was joking. We know that it's not needed
My old double cut bastard had so much rust on it it just slide like ice on mild steel...
Guess I was bored... so I put 5% white vin in a pc of tubing and brushed the heck out of the file scraped it some with a deck screw and put it in for 5 hrs. took it out wire brushed and stuck it in Baking soda and dish soap water and soaked over night.
Brushed again... detailed some with a screw and back in vin... soaked 5 hrs and wire brushed again and nuetalized in soda water again... then brushed and sprayed it with Knocker loose and let set for 3 hrs and wired brushed again... All total 8 hrs in vin... and over a hr of labor. LOL NOT COST EFFECTIVE BUT THE FILE IS 80% OF THE NEW SIMMONS I JUST BOUGHT FOR $17 and i am impressed... silly thing cuts and it looked almost like it had laid in a field for several years.
Though I was watching trailer park boys!!! 😆
hey Ricky!
I'm very dubious about this: if acid (vinegar) removed a layer of metal then surely it removes from the tips of the teeth as well? That would be more likely to blunt than sharpen?
There are a LOT of these videos on the same supposed effect but none of them I have seen ever attempts to quantify how much better the files are after 'sharpening'.
Jasco metal will do the same thing, with deeper cutting action. and if you are adventurous, battery acid.
I suggest using a solution of bicarbonate of soda after the acid bath. This will neutralize the acid.
Hahha. Best start ever. Get all the trash off the bench.
Watch the original guy to do it AvE
itsteand of picking gunk out why not just use some very fine steel wool
The title should read How Clean A File With Vinegar.
Except that the file is sharpened because the vinegar eats away at the metal. So your comment is outright stupid.
You can de-rust and clean files, but you cannot sharpen them. Any edged tool gets dull over time. All the acetic acid in vinegar does is etch the steel.
Some use a flattened copper pipe.
... and I a piece of hard wood.
They don't make them like they used to, buy a set right now and take a close look at the machining, it's utter garbage. If you've got an old set that was actually made in Canada or the UK, keep that stuff in good condition, they simply don't make them like that anymore. Hell the angle files mostly come twisted.
Cleaning a file is not sharpening it.
Acid can, and does, sharpen files. This popular mechanics article covers a commercial "system" but it's an acid bath sharpening system nonetheless. They used a microscope to prove it worked. The Scientific Method really is a powerful tool! ;-) books.google.com/books?dq=Chemical+file+sharpening&hl=en&id=seMDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA64&ots=Bse9zY6U2B&pg=PA64&sa=X&sig=_zpkvcVtRj51XcbcOImlNjJ-y3w&source=bl&ved=0ahUKEwibldXZ-YrQAhXBFZQKHW8cBGwQ6AEIPDAE#v=onepage&q=Chemical%20file%20sharpening&f=false
@@giottolaudo7672 The article you linked is essentially an ad for a cleaning kit. Did you read it?
In don't think you understand what the scientific method means, either. First one starts with an observation which in turn leads to forming a hypothesis. That's steps one and two. The third step is to test the hypothesis and arrive at a theory - step four. The files used in the magazine test didn't look nearly as worn as the file in the video. It was shiny from all the wear before the vinegar and shiny after the vinegar. Acid won't magically repair tools. IMHE, soaking dulled files in acid does very little, almost nothing. Hence, the hypothesis is that acid has a very mild effect on sharpening files. No, I have not tested this in hopes of forming a theory.
@@felixf5211 Nothing "magically" repairs anything. And I don't *care* how you think the files in the article "looked" that's an *opinion* not based on objective testing or verified by actual examination of the items in question. I'm *especially* uninterested in your opinion regarding my understanding of the scientific method. Indeed I'm uninterested in explaining to you why you are wrong. Feel free to declare victory, secret king. Run along and gamma elsewhere. I'm going to block you now, kay? Life is too short to waste on gamma posturing.
@@giottolaudo7672 Words have meanings. The scientific method is a defined term - feel free to google it. I'm not sure why you're this upset over a link to an ad presented as an article that you posted and obviously did not read. Not my fault.
Can't speak for the scientific community, but on a personal level I'd love to see your explanation of the scientific method. The folks who think the Earth is flat have their own take on the process. Please share your wisdom.
BTW, I had no idea what 'gamma posturing.' meant, so I ran a quick google search. This was the most relevant result - "Gamma motor neurons control tone of muscle. In decerebrate rigidity, the reticulospinal tracts are cut, so the gamma motor neurons start firing excessively." Given the context, this makes no sense, either. Really, are you OK? Maybe call a friend?
Edit: doesn't look like your block worked.
I've done this. It works. The acid eats a bit off the surface of the file, effectively making the biting edges sharper.
When people take God’s name in vain it ruins the video
That's my favorite part!