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- I got a surprise R3! Will I like it? Has Nikon fooled us all? They have been on a roll for sure! What happened to the Canon R7?
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0:05 Unexpected R3!
1:42 First R3 Thoughts
3:58 My New Lens
4:23 Has Nikon Fooled us all?
5:25 Z9 becoming unstoppable
7:01 Nikon on Fire!
8:09 More Z9s coming!
8:26 New Canon lens Coming!
8:58 What happened to the R7?
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Great stuff Jan. Looking forward to your next vid!
“Has Nikon fooled us all?” A classic click bait title. A better question would be “did all the shit TH-cam influencers dump on Nikon for the last few years fool us all”? No is the answer for most Nikon users. Influencers focussed on Autofocus tracking and decided that was the most important feature and the decided the Nikon Z6/7 were not good enough. For 8 years many Nikon cameras have had iso 64 as their base and highlight metering as a feature. These two settings are brilliant for shooting sunsets, brides dresses and all number of high contrast scenes, yet it’s hard to find an Influencer who even mentions them. With Nikon adopting XQD cards over a decade ago and hence CFexpress, they chose the fastest technology rather than sticking with safe card choices of the other manufacturers. I have had no regrets since changing from my 35mm Canon film camera to Nikon digital cameras and I don’t feel fooled at all.
Im buying camera best bang for buck which is Nikon Z6II or I will wait for Z6III.
I bought the Z6 for its colours and its sublime.
It was the losses that Nikon were incurring according to their own figures that caused the negativity about Nikon, or more specifically, about Nikon's future. So people can call it " dumping" on them, but the concerns were justified. Its good they haven't gone under, they've always made good gear and the more competition the better in the market.
Gotta do a nice title like that from time to time :D
In the end it all depends what we shoot. For birds when I tried the Z7 II it was lacking a bit compared to others, but not a bad camera in itself. Just in direct comparison it lacked a bit. For other use cases it was very good.
I think definitely now all brands deliver us cameras of super high standard
@Dominic Lester Very well said.
Thanks Jan, I really enjoy your videos and thanks to them I am up to date with the different technologies used in the main brands. I was very happy to hear that the Z9s will soon be available in the USA, I am one of those on the waiting list........and eagerly awaiting the much advertised 200-600 lens. Good luck on your trip and look forward to your report on the new Z9 firmware.
Thank you! I hope your camera will arrive, soon!
Hi Jan, I was wondering if we can still expect field vlogs and tips about bird photography rather than the equipment. I kind of miss those videos. Have a nice trip!
What about the bird photography show where we share all that content? 😊 I will do a bit of everything depending on what comes up
@@jan_wegener I like that too, but a bit less. I still do always look forward to future episodes.
Congratulations Jan on your R3 !! Looking forward hearing soon with your reviews and with settings !
Thank you Jan, keeping an open mind and showing the benefits and flaws of all brands is why I clicked subscribe. Looking forward to watching more of your work.
Awesome! Thank you!
I am curious to see your opinion (after testing in the field) about the R3. I have that little concern about the 24 Mpix. For this reason I think you might want to buy the RF 600 with probably the teleconverter. The 800 / 1200 versions are too expensive.... Now I hope Canon will decrease the price of those "big" lenses too or create more variety of lenses (more affordable for normal people)
Congrats on the new camera mate and good luck on the trip, Cheers, Duade
Thanks 👍
Jan, re the pre release capture on the Z9. The images are jpg, but if you have the camera set to RAW only and change to 30fps, it works and automatically records the jpg images. You don't need to be shooting RAW + jpg, or need to swap to jpg. Now, if they implemented it at 20fps and produced RAW files, that would be awesome!!
Yes, having that in RAW would be great
Merci, Bon voyage et bonnes Photos.
I had the same dilemma - R5 or R3. I went with the R3 as I have been a 1D series shooter for many years so I like the format and I also shoot sport / action as well as wildlife. However, for birds you really need to have long lenses!
I would love an R3 but the R5 allows me to use the 100-400 ii and still crop in deep. Really love the high iso and quality I see out of the r3 though!
Both for me :) So I will keep the resolution of the R5s
Looking forward to your R3 content!
You and me both!
Awesome feature to be able to pre buffer images like the Canon M6 Mark II! 👍 Does any other camera do this also other that these two that you know of? Thanks 😊
Different forms of "pre capture" buffering have been available in different forms and with increasing speed and capabilities almost since digital took over 15+ years ago. I don't recall when I first saw it, but think Fujifilm was fairly early. Today you'll find "Pro Capture" in most recent Olympus bodies, "Pre-Shot" in Fujifilm etc. It's of course impossible to use with a dSLR in OVF-mode so it didn't become usual in interchangeable lens cameras until mirrorless took off.
It also requires a fairly large buffer and fast frames per second to be really useful. Guess that's why it's become more popular the last couple of years.
Olympus has been doing it for about 6 years I think. They call it Pro Capture and birders seem to love it.
good video - thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
Does the camera saves still images from a video file internally ? Is it possible , maybe in raw?
You can take stills from videos in a few cameras
Just wondering if you had considered the R5c for longer video recording?
Yes, but too many things about it that don't work for me.
No Ibis, no eye tracking and it takes an eternity to switch from photo to video.
No, Nikon did not fool us all.. only the people that haven't been around the industry long enough to know what Nikon does and how the game goes... I would smh and laugh every time I saw a post or comment or video of people saying things like Nikons dead, nikons a sinking ship, nikon is out of the game etc... or when I'd see posts of people getting into photography and would ask in groups what system they should get into. And so many people would say "whatever you do, definitely don't go Nikon, they are about to fold and go under and are years behind the competition"
Ive been photographing for 33 yrs and 31 of those years with Nikon. Nikon doesn't mess around and always pull through with the good stuff and provide the high end glass to accompany it. They've done time and time again over the years.
If you study the data on DP Review you will see that Nikon has outsold Canon in full frame mirrorless cameras and lenses
Appreciate your comment, my title was obviously a tad click baity, but it's nice to have a discussion sometimes. Nikon did very well with DSLRs and then it took them a while to catch on in the mirrorless game, where they finally showed up to the party with the Z9. I used the Z6 & 7 II for a bit and while decent, they were definitely lacking when it came to tracking
Unfortunately pre-recording with Z9 only 30 & 120 fps JPGs...
Oh sounds like you are getting the new Rf800 lens. Nice!
Jan - that editing of those bird shots was great.
I just wish we had some nice colorful birds in New Zealand
There's a few over there!
I am eager to see your results. I have the R5 with an R3 on order. I am hoping the R3 will give me less noise at higher ISO settings.
What do you shoot?
@@HaimGreen I shoot with a variety of RF lenses, and I do landscapes, seascapes and wildlife. Dusk and dawn are challenging with big mega pixels and I'm thinking the R3 will be better.
Still have to test some more, but it's very nice
Let's goooo! Looking forward to your thoughts Jan!
Me too!! haha!
Hi I hope you could give me some advice. I have the Canon R5. I live in England, my camera settings are ISO 600 Speed on 2000 and F8. I enjoy bird photography and I'm in a wheelchair so have a board on my knee with a small tri pod on it and and a use a gimbal, none of my photos are tac sharp. Hope you can share some advice with me. Thankyou Luke
You shouldn't be using the same settings all the time ! What lens are you shooting?
@@markrigg6623 I shoot using the RF100-500.
I change the settings for different situations.
If my photos aren’t very sharp. Would you suggest to higher the speed. Or is there a different setting to alter.
Thanks
On that lense, 1/2000 should be plenty to consistently get sharp shots and will even freeze some movement in the subject. I'd probably do a controlled test on a still object with the camera on a tripod or sitting on a table, and use the self timer to trigger the shot, the idea being to make sure there's not a fault somewhere in the gear. If it's birds in flight where your images are soft, be at least 1/ 3200 if you can, that will increase your chances of freezing the action properly. But you're still going to get some soft ones regardless.
@@markrigg6623 ok thanks
The settings as such sound fine. Are the photos usually quite dark?
Nice you got a R3. Please test the Eye Control. I guess the 24 MP image should look very good. Some said it is close to 30 MP. You will be the judge. I guess you bought the RF 800 f5.6.
The R7 has been rumored to be just around the corner too often, just like the Sony pro aps-c (a6900/a7000, or whatever name people came up with for it). As long as they keep people waiting, they might just convince some impatient people to take the step up to the R5/A9, and with the chip shortage limiting the amount of cameras that can be produced overal I guess they will keep on putting their chips in the cameras that have the biggest margins.
My thoughts exactly!
Yes, makes sense to do that for sure
Greate camera! Autofocus and ISO are geme changers!
I hope so :)
I really hope canon brings the feature where you can use spot af and eye detection at the same time to the r5 and r6.
The feature I’m quite furios the R5 and even the R3 doesn’t have: Link the AF to spot AE.
But there’s more that the R5 could and should have that’s just firmware…
I think that will stay with the R3/R1 for now
@@jan_wegener you're probably right but one can hope..
Wow!! You got an R3!! I can’t wait to see your full review of it.
You’re doing such great work Jan, love following your journey.
Thanks so much!
I don't think Nikon fooled anyone, I think the community fooled itself ;)
The "vocal" community seem to be the least knowledgable. These days all you need is a Sony and a kit lens to know everything about everything.
not wrong :D
Z9 PreCapture only works if the capture mode is in C30 or C120.
Thanks!
The xxD tended to be announce at the end of August. I would expect a R7 to be announce at that time if it arrives.
It may be that the availability of the R3 with waiting lists for months makes Canon hesitate. They will also need lenses to go with that as well. RF lenses are not exactly cheap these days.
There are affordable RF lenses with excellent image quality. Paying for the L lens doesn't mean you will have a better photo.
I am hoping to match an R7 with my Sigma 150-600C
Yes, I don't things they want to release too many things they cannot deliver
I find it strange that people are questioning if 24mpx is enough when cameras like the 1D Mark IV (16mpx) and D3S (12mpx) were the top of the line sports/wildlife cameras roughly a decade ago and no one questioned them.
I like the direction each brand is taking with their products and there's something for everyone. I odn't anyone would go wrong with any brand and the only issue IMO would be a matter of budget.
I agree, but it heavily depends on your shooting style and subject.
@@jan_wegener Yup! As with any tool, it's usage depends. I think the sweet spot is 16-24mpx. I remember loving the files out of my 1D Mark IV about 6 years ago and now shooting with the 5D Mark IV, I do love the camera and the images but the RAW files are starting get to me with how large they are.
Hi Jan, I predict you will buy the 800mm prime
We will know very soon!
I hope your new lens is the 400/2.8 but My guess is the rf 800/5.6.
You can buy 2 R5s. Swap between them to mitigate the overheat issue.
I have two, but that's not always a viable option, due to having to reframe etc
I just saw an interview with the founder of canonrumors, who has now left it. And he said he's certain that there will be an R7, and that it's going to be a crop sensor professional camera aimed at sports & wildlife (my interpretation is that it's going to be an RF replacement for the 7D2). He also said, however, that due to supply problems it isn't going to come anytime soon - probably not even this year. Releasing a major camera and not be able to deliver it to the customers is not something they want. So they'll no doubt wait and not announce it until they feel sure they can deliver. They might release some more affordable cameras and lenses just to keep the brand alive. In the meantime Canon will of course pay attention to what the competitors are doing, and this of course might influence their plans.
Thanks for sharing, great insight
Why would the supply problems not affect the more affordable cameras and lenses, too?
@@daveburtchell2926 He didn't say, so I can only guess: Maybe the technology in cheaper gear isn't so difficult to get?
I am hanging out for an R7 to take the first step into mirrorless from my 90D. I suspect budget will keep me with my Sigma 150-600C but who knows.
Dustin Abbott just did a review on the RF 100-400mm; he said it performs pretty well with the RF 1.4x extender, so that could be an alternative set-up.
90D has fantastic sensor. Gives you so much reach. So yeah, I'm hanging for an R7.
I use mainly MFT now, but a APS-C R7 would be really interesting. A R7 with the 32MP sensor and RF 100-400 F5.6-8 would match MFT 100-400 with 20MP sensor for pixel density/reach, but with Canon AF/tracking. Haven't seen anything except random rumors so far though. Could be a very tempting alternative to upgrading to the (currently impossible to buy) OM-1.
Also, you would be able to adapt full frame 600mm lenses for more reach than generally possible with mft.
I have the m6 ii which is like a dumbed down r7 lol
@@johnvanderploeg I could adapt Canon EF lenses (including a 600mm if I could afford it) to my MFT camera. Already have an adapter. A R7 APS-C camera could do it better (for AF), but I still couldn't afford a EF 600mm. A R7 could use the new (and slow) 600 and 800mm RF lenses which I could afford - making it even more interesting. No RF to MFT adapter is physically possible unfortunately.
If you shoot aps-c from any full frame manufacturer you have a much more reliable af system with a native 600mm (900mm ff equivalent) focal length available. Don’t forget tamron and sigma 150-600 options. Just pointing out that for most practical purposes, avoiding adapting other mounts, aps-c actually has more reach than mft. I expect the new higher res aps-c sensors to widen the gap even further.
Where Nikon is clearly head and shoulders above Canon these days are long lenses for serious shooters. The 120-300mm f2.8, new 400mm f2.8 TC, 500mm f5.6 PF or 800mm f6.3 PF are essential lenses that I personally wouldn't want not to have the option to purchase.
The Z9 is IMHO also clear superior but that it a lot less relevant than the lenses.
I would say r3. Z9 and a1 are all three so good and the difference is so small so the best one is the one that Feels best in your hand and has the system that fills your need. So for many the z9 is the best camera and for me is the r3. We are spoilerd with choices
@@Herkulez1981 if you are luck to be one of the people for whom eye focusing AF works the R3 has that one appealing feature for sure.
But again where Canon falls way short is in lenses IMHO.
Depends how you shoot, the glaring hole in that line up is a 600 atm, but I am sure it will come eventually.
@@bernardlanguillier7970 depends on what you shoot ..most people domt buy a 6 of 800 lens. For my needs for exempel Canon has the best line up for lenses of those two but if ypu want a comparct fast 800 then nikom is the best etc
@@Herkulez1981 I am not sure I understood your point sorry. What lenses are you talking about?
I could guess which lens Jan, but I do already know ;-) haha Would of been good to get it to you before your trip though.
ha! Well, there's always another trip!
Jan, appreciate your takes (always) and love to hear about Canon gear (and couldn't agree with you more about all the companies pushing each other along. It also feels as though Nikon is beginning to really listen to it's users. I downloaded Nikon Firmware 2.0 for the Z9 early this morning and I'll hit the field today and let you know for sure, but pre-capture / post capture works with only 30fps/120fps (and those are both jpg), once you set the frame rate to be 30/120 you're automatically shooting jpgs even if you are in one of the "RAW" settings (LLC, HE*, HE) as your base. I'll test it out when I get home from work to make sure. Have a great trip and thanks for doing a wonderful review at all times.
Thanks for that!
@@jan_wegener Always. You're exceptionally helpful.
RF 800 5.6 and if so we’re all envious 😂
First time this early
Nice!
Wish you a great trip with the R3 and my quess is that you bought the RF800 lens. Cheers!
Dude, you already commented unter Chis Kaulas video what lens it's gonna be.
I don't even remember :D
Most of my friends who shot Nikon jumped ship from Nikon to Sony or Canon. I'm glad I stayed loyal but still on the list to receive my Z9. They still don't know when it will ship. I hear they're making 3,000 per month and still can't keep up with orders
I think you bought RF 24-70 f2 :)
I want to know who was the person who bought an R3 and already sold it 😁 Enjoy the camera and I look forward to your review.
You and me both!
You for sure gonna get the 1200mm, 6mm & 2000mm
Hi Jan, congrats on the R3 mate ! However .. if that surprise purchase happened sooner, you might have opted to order the new 800/5.6 to get about the same pixels on the bird as with the 600/4 on the R5 ..
Regarding the R7, I've seen the same interview Lau Bjerno mentioned. Let's just hope the delay due to supply reasons does not freeze in the further development. Sounds like the R7 could learn a few neat tricks from the R3 & Z9.
We shall see
From what I understand as of right now, the Z9 pre-capture only works with Jpeg.
correct
Maybe you bought the new Nikon 800mm f/6.3 lens, although you are a Canon shooter ;-)
If it is a Canon lens, which everybody expects, I think it probably is the RF 600mm
Not mentioned in any of the "reviews" is that you can't redundant record in ANY of the video modes on the Z9 meaning a card goes bad and you lose all of your footage.
Thanks for the info!
I guess most people don't do that.
You will discover that 30 FPS is a LOT of frames.
I have not tried the R3 with the EF 600 F/4 ii. It may be that the frame rate will surprise you compared to what you have achieved with the R5 and the 5D. The frame rate with the EF 100-400 ii surprised me.
I did like the 30fps on the A1 :)
Birding! I received my z9 a week ago (9 days after ordering from Nikon France) and already I see significantly sharper, hand held images with the fully electronic shutter on the z9 than with either mechanical or electronic shutter on my z7 using my 500PF with or without the TC1.4. So (just go for broke and) get the z9. I need to build some upper body strength, however. It is no wonder really as I remember all the worries about shutter shock when we went from 10 or 15 Mp to 36Mp on the D800. Thank you Jan for your TH-cam contributions.
Great to hear and nice you got yours so fast!
I am guessing RF 600mm F4 :)
@7:57 you forgot the elephant in the room, canon supply Nikon sensors u 🤔, that said I hope your outback goes well & looking forward to your thoughts 💭
WK
DX camera's of Canon could perhaps die out.. , Nikon had done something with the z50/Zfc , some lenses , but all the "focus" seems to be on Fullframe
I would like a DX format with z9 features ... just as they did with the D850 + D500...For those who can not afford the z9 , do want speed, smaller file sizes , reliableness , superb AF, and : REACH !!!
Buget wise it is not just a camera , you also need a lens ... It would be perfect if this Z500 ( what ever the name may be) + the Z 200-600 in combination is not far above the price of a Z9 body
Just like the D500 + 200-500 , this combination wil be a best seller...
And for the people with some more to spent , a Z500mm f5.0... that is the wish of a lot of photographers in our group..
Not the "ghost" on the lens roadmap that seems to be a 400mm f4.0 .. we all think it is useless , it needs a tc for 99% of the time.
Agree, i would like to have a d500 like wildlife camera but in mirrorless format (and built in grip)
@@oleggontar2942
The persons I know , who have the Z9 ( adapted F mount glass , 500/600 f4.0... Sigma 300-800 , 500mm PF) do have the D500 as second body in their bags..
Then they do want travel lightweight , the D500 without the grip also have 10fps and combined with a 500PF/ Sigma 100-400 it is still in service..
The z6ii , z50 is not their choise , the AF system can not compete according to their findings
So if this DX highend model is coming , they hope it is without a build in grip.. a bit more bulky then a z6 , and if wisched a external grip could be placed as a option.
Z9 for most of the shots, when hicking/climbing though the mountains , a bush/forest , A DX model for less weight and having the reach and speed at the same time
@@kaak4737 i adore my d500 as well, but wouldn't mind if it would be as chunky as my d4. I just love massive cameras.
Best of luck with the R3 and the RF lens. I'm still going with the RF 400 2.8 as my guess since you have spoken highly of the RF TCs.
The bigger question now is when is the Canon R1 coming out
Enjoy the R3. Got mine since December and really love it. The body, viewfinder, image quality.. really great! Also love the customizable buttons. I also like the AF over the R5. Enjoy your RF 600.. seems the delivery situation in Australia is better.. waiting till last summer here in germany...
Great camera for sure. I think Australia always gets good stock and there's just a lot less people here, so much smaller waiting lists
Wow....Nikon Z9 and Canon R3 in your expert hands, can't wait to the results of both great cameras
Wait, a youtuber paying for his gear? This is shocking.
He needs more subscribers. tell a friend
I know, it sucks :D
Have a great trip!
I'm waiting for the Z6III.
The Canon R3 looks great except the price and I currently have Nikon lenses.
I put my kids on eBay and hoping I get enough to buy the R3
how did that work out? :D
Hallo Jan
Super Videos
Es Ware Super wenn du die Videos auch auf deutsch machen könntest weil viele in unserem Club ( und auch in Österreich und Schweiz und noch Deutschland) nicht der englischen Sprache mächtig sind Dankeschön 😀
Vielleicht, aber da muesste es dann einen ganz neuen Channel geben
I see an Olympus Lawsuit coming.....hahahaa
good thing the japanese aren't so lawsuit happy.
haha! Especially with the new creative name, too :D
👍🏾🙏🏾
I guess Rf 800mm if not rf 600mm
Nikon Z9 is superb camera and so is the R3 - fast pro sports camera and expect Canon to do a R5 pro camera in a R3 shell, interesting to see what Canon will do with their APS system - migrate it to RF and kick the doors in with a Pro / High end APS ML R7 (in R5 shell). Hope they do as it will kick Nikon up the ^^%%^%^ to an high end (D500) APS ML - Z90 - with that tech dripping down to a Z50 and ZFC update down the line.
I love my R3. I've owned it for three months and I haven't picked up my R5. In fact, whenever I shoot a wedding I dread having to use my R5 as my second body. I'll definitely be replacing it for another R3.
Interesting, thanks for sharing!
I won't be supprised if the R5 overheats... Even my R6 overheating...
The quality of the bodies is above the needs of 90% of photographers. To me it is a question of lens selection. For that reason I will stay with Canon. I also like Canon color science. I know it is a debate but for Black skin I have had good results with Canon vs. Sony and Nikon. Nikon would be my choice if I already owned Nikon glass.
Totally Agree
That 800mm f6.3 will be a game changer for bird photographers if the price is right (unless Canon reacts with a similar product) and coupled with the Z9 and its 45MP...
So, my take on "24 MP is enough" is: sorry not for tiny birds. They never fill the image and if they did they would be impossible to follow anyway. Cropping is the way to go. More pixels are a huge advantage, but the magnification factor is only the square root of the megapixel increase, so I crop for bird identification purposes from 47 MP or 8256 pixels to 1661 pixels horizontally = a factor ~5 or with my lightweight 500mm f5.6 "PF" lens w. TC 1.4 from 700mm cropped to 3500mm. It is enough to ID the bird and not enough for posting online LOL That said the z9 has a 1:1 pixel 4K video readout that gives a factor 700mm x 2.3 = 1610mm f8. The quality is then obviously lower than the oversampled 4K video modes, But a nice gift to birders. And of course the tiny birds will be near impossible to find with 1610mm. Perhaps a red dot sight would help? Anybody out there tried that?
bird photography is cringe bro!
@@arunashamal Yeah I agree it is cringe like your comment.
Lol, Imagine the corporate business meetjng of releasing 50 Z mount lenses.
"Gentlemen, Canon tickled us for few years and now we will unleash the angry Hulk on mirrorless market" 🤣🤣
lol
:D
You can't be in RAW mode at all. You have to switch into C30 ro C120 modes which are always jpegs (11MP ones for C120). So you will need to specifically switch over to one of those drive modes to use the ProCapture mode.
I had the R3 for a 3 day test drive and I agree that the body design is probably the best I've ever used (and I've used a lot from all 3 brands). Nikon should put that Z9 on a diet. That thing was heavy.
Thanks for sharing! I agree, a pound of that Z9 would be nice
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Thanks!
It's a MONSTER!!!!
new lens.. Canon 200-400 F4 with extender 1.4x ?
Canon won’t bring their top technologies to a “cheap” APS-C model - because it will take away sales from their high mark up full frame cameras.
Yes, especially with the shortages that probably makes sense
Hi Jan,
I own and use the R3 since december in addition to my R5‘s and like the ergonomics over the R5. A little downside is the smart controller in vertical position, it isn‘t really accessible for my thumb. The image.quality is imho in high iso (3200 and above) including resolution and color better than R5 and A1. In low ISO I miss the resolution of the R5. Therefore the R3 is not for all situations.
Concerning your lens order I guess., it‘s the RF600F4L because of versatility and quality with extenders. I think you will not pay several thousands of $$$$ for less versatility and incorporated extender.
I am looking forward to your exciting pictures with the new gear.
Cheers
Peter
Similar to how I feel about the R3 atm
By the time Nikon satisfy all their pre-orders the Z9 Mk2 will be announced. That'll be interesting to watch.
As for 50 new lenses.................... They can't even deliver their flagship on time, actually they cannot deliver it at all to many customers. Imagine how long these lenses will take to come out.
Just to update you, "Canon only have the RF35 1.8" - Canon have announced a RF 35 1.2 coming out shortly. Certainly way before Nikon's "50 new lenses".
yep
RF 600mm - hast du ja selbst schon auf anderen Kanälen (Chris Kaula) geschrieben. :-)
kann ich mich nicht mal dran erinnern! haha!
Both of those cameras look ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as someone using one.
Yeah I agree. Ridiculous... ridiculously good.
Nikon didn’t fool anyone. Anyone who has seen the industry in the last 20 years+ knows these companies leap frog each other every half decade or so. Canon was the first with FF DSLR. People thought Nikon was sleeping. Then the D3. Sony lost money for 10 years straight after acquiring K-M, throwing various types of pasta at the wall to see what would stick. That’s why no one took them seriously. It took Sony 3 tries (a7III) before people took them seriously for professional work. The original Z’s are fantastic cameras. But the influencers didn’t know them. And it takes more than a day or week or month or a sponsored event, to really know the cameras. People who know weren’t fooled. People who are new or with short attention spans got educated.
Well said :D
Fuji has had preshotes mode for years, Nikon didn’t come up with anything new with that.
You and others were ready to bury Nikon and now the bandwagon is overcrowded.
Nothing has changed really. I still don't like the old stuff and I think what they're doing now is much improved. I'd say give credit where it's due. Bandwagon would be me buying 2 Z9s ;)
One generation of mediocre mirrorless bodies (let’s be honest the ii aren’t really second gen) had people convinced Nikon was done. Odd considering their long history and how they had the top full frame and crop DSLRs.
@@livejames9374 I think it was the not so great upgrade from the Z6 & 7 to the II that had people concerned, because that really didn't do much. I think in the end all the brand talk is overblown, but it is what we all like talking about :D
I used to own A1, R3 and Z9. Just sold my A1, FE 600/4GM and all my Sony GM lenses. Picked up my Z400/2.8S TC a few days ago and am not impressed its performance with Z9 (in particular to shooting birds). I bought R3 a month ago along with a few RF lenses. The minute I picked R3 up I liked its body and controls right away. Its controls and customization is the best among three IMO. And, AF tracking performance and accuracy is also the best (slightly better than A1; Z9 is way behind even after updated with firmware 2.0). The only major downside of R3 is its 24mp sensor. But coupling with RF 600/4, it works flawlessly with or without RF TCs. You would find yourself liking R3 the most like me even it only possesses 24mp.
Funny, unless you got early access to the Nikon 2.0 firmware update, you can’t have much experience with it, as it released today!
Hey there, sent over that Nikon 2.8S :3
@@johnvanderploeg Updated firmware 2.0 this morning and went straight to test it out.
@@dicekolev5360 I’ll try it out for a few more times. If things still don’t work out, I’m going to sell it without hesitation. Anyway I’ve got RF800/5.6 on order. I think it will work perfectly with my R3.
Steven, you have never touched a Z9 in your life, bro
I’m guessing you’re getting a 600 F4 RF because well why wouldn’t you.
NO
good :D
One thing first, did Nikon give you any compensation ,money ,lens ,camera anything to make this video ??? Its hard to get truth if you accepted anything from them...Most voguers on yutube does...It should be names Paytube...
Not one cent or anything else. It's always my own or friends gear, 100% paid for unless stated otherwise
Too many equipment reviews. Losing flavour here.
I do the same amount of other videos, just some of these in-between when I can't get out as much. And they just get way more views, too
@@jan_wegener The title is just click bait in my humble opinion. And, I see that as an increasing trend with your videos. That said, you own the channel, and you can post as you wish.
Many of these negative comments about the demise of Nikon came from TH-cam shills not working photographers who have been around for many years.
not wrong :D
Nikon has Fooled a lot of People into thinking the D850 is a Good Camera, while in reality it is a Piece of Shit
I disagree, love my D850! I’m not at all impressed with the Z9, could they get the viewfinder any smaller😂
What features of the D850 are shit exactly? It is widely regarded as one of the best DSLR ever made, so I am curious about your expertise with it
@@Ausknutz
As I posted elsewhere on youtube...
My D850 is the Worst Camera I have ever had. It has Never taken an in focus Image regardless of Lens, AF Mode/Settings, AF Tuning, Shutter Speed or f-stop. There is a lot of Noise at any ISO above 100, and even at 64 the shadows are very noisy, even when dark. It also produces Halos and Mosquitos even at the Default settings in Picture Control. Battery life is Horrendous, it has never gotten more than 280 shots on a charge(3 different Batteries), and that is with all Wireless turned off, Airplane Mode on, Image Preview Off, Display timer at 4 seconds, and no viewing of Images on screen after taking. It also produces clusters of Horizontal Lines in the pics, across vertical lines. It has been to Nikon twice, they claim it is within Factory Tolerances. Those Tolerances must be loose enough to drive 3 or 4 Semis thru, side by side. The last time they looked at they said they cleaned the sensor, well every pic taken since its return has a big blotch on the screen in lower Right Corner. The D850 is a Complete Piece of Shit and not backed by Nikon.
@@pjimmbojimmbo1990 You obviously have a bad copy. I have a D5600, which I bought used and I take over 400 shots before switching batteries. But that's does not mean the D850 model is bad. For example, a friend of mine bought a Canon T7 and it had some issues as well, but I won't say Canon is shit
@@pjimmbojimmbo1990 you got a lemon for sure, the D850 to me is the best camera Nikon has ever made…well that and the D700.
Congratulations Jan on your R3 !! Looking forward hearing soon with your reviews and with settings !
Thanks!