What If Sabah was recovered by the Philippines: Exploring the Economic Impact
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- Today, we delve into an intriguing question: What if Sabah was recovered by the Philippines? How would it have impacted the Philippine economy? Let's imagine the possibilities and explore the potential outcomes.
The Historical Context]To understand the significance of Sabah's recovery, let's delve into the historical context.
Sabah, located in the southern part of the Philippines, was historically part of the Philippines and owned by the Sultanate of Sulu, who's a Filipino.
However, it is currently under the administration of Malaysia.
Weird, right?
So, how did that happen?
The story begins during the era of European colonization in Southeast Asia.
In the late 1800s, the British North Borneo Company established a presence in the region, including the territory now known as Sabah. The company rented the place from the Sultanate of Sulu.
Fast forward to 1963 when Sabah, along with Sarawak and Singapore, formed the Federation of Malaysia.
During the period led by President Diosdado Macapagal, the Philippines made efforts to reclaim Sabah, asserting its historical connection to the Sultanate of Sulu, which held claims over the region.
In an interesting twist, the government of Malaysia had been making payments to the Sultanate of Sulu as rent for the land they occupied.
However, tensions arose when the descendants of the Sultan of Sulu demanded an increase in the rental fees, as they deemed the previous amount of 5,000 US dollars per year to be too low.
The Malaysian government, reluctant to continue paying rent, declined the increased fees proposed by the Sultanate of Sulu.
This disagreement escalated the dispute and led to diplomatic negotiations and the involvement of international courts, further straining relations between the Philippines and Malaysia.
The Philippine government argued that the transfer of Sabah from the British to Malaysia was illegal, emphasizing the Philippines' rightful claim to the territory.
This complex situation gave rise to prolonged discussions and legal proceedings aimed at finding a resolution to the Sabah dispute.
The differing historical interpretations and political considerations have contributed to the ongoing tensions and challenges in the relationship between the Philippines and Malaysia regarding the ownership of Sabah.
Now, let's refocus our attention on the topic at hand.
If the Philippines were to regain control over Sabah, a scenario that holds hope for the future, it would undoubtedly have a profound and transformative impact on the country's economic landscape.
History of the conflict by TH-cam Channel, Hindsight.
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Philippines would never get Sabah. People of Sabah has spoken and agreed to be with malaysia in 1963. Sulu sultan never rule Sabah. It's was the pirates who work for sulu sultan that actually control eastern Sabah sea, built pirate bases and terrorizing eastern Sabah native. These pirates claim to be the followers of sultan sulu. Brunei never give Sabah to sulu sultan. Brunei already ceded whole Sabah to Overbeck in 1877 but because these pirates of sulu sultan roam eastern Sabah built bases there so Overbeck need another agreement in 1878 to guaranteed his future company safe passage to eastern Sabah. So the 1878 agreement was signed between Overbeck and sulu sultan. It was cession not lease agreement. And agreement to aquire land that is not belong to sulu sultan at the first place.
Philippines are peaceful people. Same as Malaysia and their neighboring Indonesia. They are simply brothers that have some petty quarrels but that doesn't mean they dont love and respect each other. They will pursue what best for their people without staining their relationship.
Hopefully. Obviously the Malaysian government is " PAYING THE RENT " to Sultanate of Sulu. What do we called that ? Event a high school student can explained that ! I repeat if you are paying the Rent means its not yours.☝️
Malaysian government is greedy. The worse in the world.
Wow! Please LORD GOD... SANA LET SABAH BE HANDED TO THE PHILIPPINES QUIETLY & PEACEFULLY. THANK YOU JESUS, AMEN.
What undisputed proof do you have that the Philippines have legal claims over Sabah?
FUN FACT: How about you explore the question if part of the Southern Philipines (especially the Muslim regions) join Malaysia. Thats what some of the ideas of the MoroLA envisaged. They would be developed like Sabah now...Maybe a brilliant idea for your subsriber...😅
The question is whether the people of Malaysia, and people of Sabah in particular are willing to accept the Southern Philippines as part of Malaysia? Are they willing to share their wealth with the poor Southern Philippines?
Welcome! to Sabah, Philippines.
Keep on dreaming.
Rather than focusing Sabah. We should have been focusing on developing Mindanao and Visayas. These two region has even huge potentials than what Sabah can offer
Someday Sabah will back to the Philippines
Yes, that "someday" will be the doomsday.
WHY DID BRUNEI GIVE SABAH TO THE PHILIPPINES ⁉️
This was during the period when the Sultanate was in its 'golden era'. In 1658, the Sultan of Brunei ceded the northern and eastern portion of Borneo to the Sultanate of Sulu in compensation for the latter's help in settling the Brunei Civil War in the Brunei Sultanate. 🇵🇭🙏🏻🇧🇳
The Philippines claims Sabah on the basis that Sabah was said to be once under Sulu. Sulu only claimed that Sabah was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
SABAH under Malaysia was more prosper develop modenise. Let see the Google Map Sattelite View. Soo difference. Almost All Cities and Rurals area in Philipines was far behind. And there was soo many Slum standard of living in Philipines.
Sabah is Philippines.. its a fact historically .
Sulu only claimed that North Borneo (Sabah) was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of North Borneo (Sabah) from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
China owns spartly... It's a fact historically
Why sulu sultanese sell sabah to Malaysia? At 1878?
@hopelope1703 The proof is why Malaysian government pay rent to Sulu heirs up until 2013 if Malaysia is the real owner of Sabah. They should not pay Sulu heirs from the Philippines rent. The real owner is taking their land so Malaysia should return it to the real owner which is Sultanate of Sulu in the Philippines
@@MN-pb2gw they paid to Sulu as token of friendship and to respect the agreement between British and Sulu Sultanate not pinoys and Spain at that time.
Sabah, Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭 Period.
Sulu only claimed that North Borneo (Sabah) was given Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of North Borneo (Sabah) from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
People always trying to take Philippines' territories
sabah,PHILIPPINES 🇵🇭 ... WE ARE THE RIGHTFUL OWNER ...
Sabah will be a province of the Philippines under the Bangsamoro Autonomous Region.
@hopelope1703gift is a gift no need to take back.... No single word
@@karlbasallote6719 Why Malaysia pay rent to the Sultanate of Sulu until 2013 if Malaysia is the real owner of Sabah?
@@MN-pb2gw , Show proof that the payment which had been stopped since 2013 was for "rent". Show any "rent" agreement document that the name of the country "Malaysia" written in it.
@@karlbasallote6719 I can't show it. Ask Malaysian government why they pay until 2013 to Sulu and maybe they can show it
Time to bring back Sabah to Philippines.
Sabah Philippines 🇵🇭🇵🇭🇵🇭
Yes, in your dream.
@@abdulwahidmdtahir3660 hahaha soon Philippines would win ICJ for extending continental shelf hahaha bye bye bye malaydesh
@@franciscogozo2229 , if you don't know what is ICJ and how it works, don't talk about it. ICJ has got nothing to do with "extended continental shelf".
Sabah is Philippines. Period.
Proof?
@@abdulwahidmdtahir3660 Well us filipinos ancestors was part of Philippines on Sultanate Of Sulu. on 20th Century Sultane of sulu Claim Sabah
@@ItzzJarred, Sulu only claimed that North Borneo (Sabah) was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given North Borneo (Sabah) to. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
@@abdulwahidmdtahir3660 well to be fair I suggest Both Philippines And Malaysia just Divide Sabah For No Other Conflicts. and No Other Fighting. My idea is Philippines will have The North Borneo of (Sabah) and Malaysia Will have the southern Borneo (Sabah).
@ItzzJarred , you suggested that Sabah be divided between Malaysia and the Philippines. However it was either deleted by you yourself or by TH-cam but still in my notification. To answer that, I agree that Sabah be split. I suggest western part be part of Malaysia and Eastern part be part of Malaysia (too).
BUSY TO CLAIM SABAH,MALAYSIA BUT SOUTHERN PHILIPPINES STILL UNDEVELOPED. 😊.
WORLD, WE SABAHAN ARE MALAYSIAN ❤❤🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾 Hala Malaysiaa
HAHAHAHA so true 🤣🤣 even in their capital city still have people who eat foods from garbage 🤣🤣
@@user-yx5jf7nt9iyou're Going Down, Clown 😊
Sabah Philippines soon hahaha
@@franciscogozo2229 , hahahahahahaha, how soooooooon is "soon". We had been hearing this kind of rhetoric since 30, 40, 50 years ago.
@@abdulwahidmdtahir3660 don't worry soon Philippines is now submitting some documents for extending continental shelf I know Philippines would win hahaha
How about mindanao case? Muslim in mindanao got killed by Christian Philippines
As a sabah citizen. We dont want to become Philippines 😂😂.
We dont want to eat pagpag.
For your info not all Filipino eat pagpag and if you become Filipino citizen it doesn't mean you also eat pagpag okay
@@crystalsnow3789 your just a Malaysian immigrant in Sabah that's why you're saying that. The real owner of Sabah are the Sultanate of Sulu in the Philippines
Then get out, you must be ashamed of what you are doing..
@MN-pb2gw , Sulu only claimed that Sabah was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given Sabah to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
Sabah is really a land of the Philippines. It was owned by the Sultanate of Sulu. British should have return it to Sulu not Malaysia and Malaysia is renting to Sultanate of Sulu until they stop Paying in 2013. Why you pay rent if you really own the land. Most Malaysian migrated to Sabah doesn't want to return Sabah to original owner Sulu Philippines. Greedines 💯. The true people of Sabah are Filipinos not Malaysian immigrants who reclaimed which is not theirs. Those people saying they are sabahans are just Malaysian immigrants in sabah who don't want to be part of the real land owner Sultante of Sulu of the Philippines
Bring back north borneo sabah to Philippines 🇵🇭
We Sabahan don't want to join filipina, because so many pinoy who make trouble here 👎👎
@@user-yx5jf7nt9i HAHA WE DONT CARE SABAHAN WE NEED BACK NORTH BORNEP SABAH
AND ALL OF YOU SABAHAN GO TO MALAYDESH KUALA LUM-POOR (UGLY PEOPLE LOOKS LIKE BANGLADESH HAHAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣
@@khentbefitel392 the proof is Malaysian government pay rent to the Sultanate of Sulu (Real owner) till 2013. Why Malaysia pay rent if they are the real owner. Or let's say token of friendship ?
The video portrayed how wonderful Sabah will be if it is recovered by Philippines. Just looked at Ph today. If it is the strongest country in ASEAN now, then your assumption may be possible otherwise, it is just another rubbish fun fact created to stir debate. So, dream on ...
Wait for the Phil. to achieve its GREATNESS that even Giant China will shock.
Mission impossible. Forget about China, just compare Philippines with Singapore.
Pinoy is a joke of ASEAN. Even Cambodia is more prosper than u
@@abdulwahidmdtahir3660 Why people always like to get Singapore involved ? Why can't you just compare Philippines with Malaysia and asked yourselves if the people in Sabah would rather choose Philippines ?
@douglasstanley5209 , I was just responding to the TS's comment (Andrei-vo5wt) who took "Giant China" as his reference. I was just suggesting him to compare a much smaller country Singapore rather than China.
The people of Sabah had chosen Malaysia since 1963 and had gone into several general elections since then.
Did someone didn't notice that the footage that explains how Malaysia get the Sabah is wrong? anyway sultinate of sulu didn't surrender in Spain and also Spain did not fully conquered the island of sulu because they failed to conquer it.
there are so many versions to the point that we all are confused about which one is true.
Due to the approval of their colonial Master England, Malaysia was established which included Sabah but was opposed by the Philippines and Indonesia. I see no other way but war
War? We had been hearing this kind of rhetoric since 30, 40, 50 years ago.
War? We had been hearing this kind of rhetoric since 30, 40, 50 years ago
GOOD....TAKE IT BACK....
Sabah would then be poor like Mindanao full of separatists
What is the basis for the State of Sabah, Malaysia to be so-called recovered by the Phillipines? The State of Sabah was never part of the Filipinos before? Never! How about if USA was ever be recovered by Britain or Quebec, Canada was ever be recovered by Canada? Possible?
The Filipinos outlaws want the State of Sabah because this State is rich in oil & gas. The wealth of Sabah is for the Sabahan people not for the Filipinos!
Go back to your elementary school for to learn in history hahahah idiot
Sabah will be deforested very very quickly and mining companies would come in. We do not know how to take care of nature.
Saba belongs to Leila de Lima, so it is for Philippines 😊
HAHAHA
Its just a joke but the wife of sultan bolkiah v, and grandmother of manila’s rajah suleiman, sulu’s sultan wasit, and brunei sultans was laila menchanai of sulu. Lol.
Sabah people want to join Malaysia in 1963 sabah chose to join Malaysia
Philippines cant take over sabah
If Philippines want sabah then take it from us 😊
😄 chill 😂
Philippines Beat Malaysia in war
@@kingphiliptongco2273 I don't wanna say this war stuff but if war then war
We going to die anyway
It be better Sabah stay Natural
Peace between Malaysia and Philippines
that's against philippine constitution
@@itsthemuscledad38 bruh xx
hell no!! my mommy from philipines descendants already fed up of being extremely poor in Cagayan now she’s happily and a proud citizen of Malaysia…because of her brave move becoming the citizen of Malaysia me and my siblings becoming the most educated family members out of any of my cousins from Philipines…we will never goes back or even visiting that terrible island again
It belongs to our muslim brothers
More people eating pagpag?
What if self-claimed israel lalaland was recovered by Palestine???! much more meaningful topic and much more thought provoking topic ain’t it. Atleast both Philippines and Sabah people are at peace, unlike the other war torned country. What are you inciting here? Ur so called assesment was totally one-sided. Matrix paid you or something to provoke peaceful parties 😮? And please say Sabah correctly, with a ‘H’. You thought this is Saba fish?!
Sabah is a payment to the sultanate of sulu by the sultanate of brunei. It just happened that the spanish conquered sulu thats why it become part of the philippines. malaysia pay rent to the sultanate of sulu not in the government of the philippines.
Malaysia never pay "rent" but officially termed as "cession money". But in actuality it was just merely a token consolation for heirs of former Sultan of Sulu.
It it was "rent", show any "rent agreement" document that the name of the country "Malaysia" written in it.
Sulu only claimed that North Borneo (Sabah) was given by Brunei to Sulu as a gift for purportedly helping Brunei fight rebels. But Brunei refuted this claim and denied ever having given North Borneo (Sabah) to Sulu. There was NO DOCUMENT regarding the transfer of ownership of Sabah from Brunei to Sulu signed by both Sultans.
In fact on 22 July 1878, the then Sultan of Sulu had relinquished all his possession and the sovereignty of Sulu and it's territories including North Borneo (Sabah) which Sulu claimed to Spain. The Sultanate of Sulu only remained as hereditary cultural and traditional entity without any sovereign territory. Then in 1885, to resolve overlapping issue on North Borneo (Sabah) and other issues involving other islands, Britain, Spain and Germany arrived to an agreement known as Madrid Protocol in which Spain surrendered North Borneo (Sabah) to Britain. What ever happened to North Borneo (Sabah) after that was under British jurisdiction.
That is a false narrative created by the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs. North Borneo (Sabah) previously belonged to Brunei before they ceded the entire territory to the British under the 1877 agreement, in the agreement it clearly states that North Borneo will be ceded to the British North Borneo Company (BNBC). However the Sultan of Sulu came along and falsely claims that North Borneo belongs to them, and to avoid a possible war in the region the British enter the 1878 agreement with the Sulu Sultanate which states that Sulu will grant and cede North Borneo to the BNBC which was the original meaning of “pajak” and was agreed as such by both the British and the Sulu Sultan however the Sulu heirs of the now defunct Sulu Sultanate then twisted the original meaning and claims that the word pajak actually means “lease and rent”. The British then agreed to pay 5,000 Mexican gold coins annually to the Sultan of Sulu as cession money for North Borneo but the self-proclaimed Sulu heirs twisted the narrative yet again and claims that the payment is “rent money”.
The real sulu sultanate are not filipino..its an oxymoron..they are independent kindgdom but later are annex by the american with military force to be included into the philipines republic..so the so called claim they somehow agree to join the republic of the philipines its wrong.
All I can see is ASEAN integration... this issue will cease in existence and also the South China Sea Issue.
Dream on
Gera is the rest of the answer and in the demonic time everyone will know and will know
Dreaming is free.
The imaginary claim would never be successful grab !
MALAYSIA GOVERNMENT PLAYING DIRTY
...and there's nothing Sulu or the Philippines can do about it.
when poor beggar for something doesnt exist
tah muka x tahu malu masih boleh nk move on, aku sokong langkah seteruskannya kerajaan malaysia nk saman sulu.
Yes Sabah is part of the Philippines mene mene years
in your dream...!!!
Not in a thousand years..!!
ibinigay na ni cristo ang sabah sa 🇲🇾 malaysia
Its a lost cause! Bakbakan talaga kung piliting bawiin yan.
Oo Yun nalang talaga Ang paraan para maibalik Ang Sabah sa Philippines.
@@kingphiliptongco2273, we had been hearing this kind of rhetoric since 30, 40, 50 years ago.
Bakbakan na
We had been hearing this kind of rhetoric since 30, 40, 50 years ago.
Malaysia will not give it back, so war is the only way, don't prolong the arbitral ruling, it is complex and complicated, even though the world knows that Sabah was just seized and grabbed.
"...the world knows that Sabah was just seized and grabbed"? Only some Filipinos say that, not the world. In fact the sovereignty of Sabah and Sarawak as component states of Malaysia is recognised internationally and recognized by the United Nations. This was confirmed and clearly stated in the United Nations Malaysia Mission Report "Final Conclusion of the Secretary-General", 14 September 1963. The last sentence of the report says:
"I fervently hope that the people of these territories will achieve progress and, and find their fulfillment as component states of Malaysia".
Full text of the report can even be accessed from the Philippines Government Gazette website.
"...the world knows that Sabah was just seized and grabbed"? Only some Filipinos say that. In fact the sovereignty of Sabah and Sarawak as component states of Malaysia is recognised internationally and recognised by the United Nations. This was confirmed and clearly stated in the United Nations Malaysia Mission Report "Final Conclusion of the Secretary-General", 14 September 1963. The last sentence of the report says:
"I fervently hope that the people of these territories will achieve progress and prosperity and find their fulfillment as component states of Malaysia".
Full text of the report can even be accessed from the Philippines Government Gazette website.
"...the world knows that Sabah was just seized and grabbed"? Only some Filipinos say that. In fact the sovereignty of Sabah and Sarawak as component states of Malaysia is recognised internationally and recognised by the United Nations. This was confirmed and clearly stated in the United Nations Malaysia Mission Report "Final Conclusion of the Secretary-General", 14 September 1963. The last sentence of the report says:
"I fervently hope that the people of these territories will achieve progress and prosperity and find their fulfillment as component states of Malaysia".
"...the world knows that Sabah was just seized and grabbed"? Only some Filipinos say that. In fact the sovereignty of Sabah and Sarawak as component states of Malaysia is recognised internationally and recognised by the United Nations.
No sabahan will ever say yes to join a poor corrupt country. The economy of sabah will drastically decline
your saba is nothing
Philiplines weak. HahHaha
Peace be with you ❤️
You're Going Down, Clown 🤡
Hahaha weak? Oh really hahaha in terms of military ranks do you still
Sabah is building highways so pls don't claim it
Pls... LISTEN! HISTORY OF OUR ANCESTORS THAT SABAH IS A clear TERRITORY OF THE PHILIPPINES.
Everything that belongs to Sabah belongs to the Philippines, so please don't be stupid.
It's piglippine UT propaganda only....don't worry 😁
@@rossali5434propaganda ?? Hahaha sabah was part of Philippines since 1900 that time malayshit is not a country until now hahahhaa🤣🤣🤣
@@rossali5434 dont wori bangladesh people we hope ph gov. Feclare war against malayshit (not country) 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hahahaha
Dream on.
Then us sabahan later will eat Pag Pag because of pilipin corruption, add on to become Abu Sayyaf base operation due to the vast rainforest make it harder to locate their hideout
yes abu sayyaf is trained by malaysian bomber.
Many Abu sayaf in Philippines are Malaysian.
Malaysian Government rental to the sultan of sulu sultan of sulu is a pilipino
u thinking oil exploration in sabah using imagination. now u think "if" after already found. why u not explore yours? want easy money? money doesnt grow from tree.🤣🤣🤣
Then, why do you DRILL IF IT IS NOT YOUR TERRITORY... IT IS YOUR FAULT!
@@user-vy7zt6dz4p facts
Why don't you go learn better English? Better grammar?
@@user-vy7zt6dz4p are u retard? wake up kid. are talking to stone? thats not good.
You are stupid