I served multiple tours in NI, we should never have been there . I sincerely hope peace will continue to prevail , the people of the north of Ireland deserve it.
@@georgepatterson3428doesn’t matter what it’s called. In a few decades we will all be Gone. What matters is peace. There are new challenges now and the people in the bri🎉ish isles have a shared history. Mistakes were made and hopefully won’t be made ever again
I served 19 years , my mate served 20 years , he served a huge numbers of tours in northern Ireland and it altered him deeply for life , i lost a good friend as well . I never every stop thinking about my mates and my time with them . Till we all muster for the last time, rip lads , heroes all .
The nine "gunmen" the commentator says the Paras killed included a 44 year old mother of eight, whose own daughter was married to a soldier; a man shot and taken into Army custody, whereupon he was hot again inside the barracks; a priest who was shot giving last rites to a dying man; and an ex-British soldier who lost an arm on the beaches of Normandy, shot outside the church where he worked. These facts were known by the media at the time and simply ignored in favour of the Army's lies. It took 50 years for the truth to finally be admitted. It is hard to stomach listening to the chuckles of the reporter as he interviews that smug, arrogant thug of a corporal.
Yes British smugness, limited consciousness, low intelligence and absolute certainty in the arrogant verbal delivery of British superiority are amazing to behold. Ballymurphy massacre done and dusted. But its all ahead of you yet .... Bloody Sunday, Whiterock massacre. Springhill massacre, New Lodge massacre. You can just imagine Corporal (Jones ?) letting it all out on the Morons on Bloody Sunday.
@@ATLmodK It was - as you have correctly divined from the bald facts - sheer unadulterated murder. Committed by those killers par excellece the first battalion the parachute regiment.
Mickey yes it's sick listening to these arrogant young soldiers, who really are only trying to make themselves brave for the television, we know what they really do
Another great upload. Thank you. I was in junior school in England when I first started being aware of the Troubles. Back then to my young mind it was Army good, Irish bad. It wasnt until i was in my 20s working with guys from both sides of the divide that I got more of an education. Even now it seems such a complex situation to me and I think unless you grew up in NI during that time you can never truly understand it .
That's probably the fairest comment I've read about this issue. Ultimately, foreigners came to Ireland, starved us by the million whilst they sold te food we produced, and occupied our land, murdered our people, and stole our resources. ANY man would defend their people and their homes in a situation. That's literally what the British army is for, for the Brits. If the English never tried to steal our land, none of them would have ever been hurt on our land.
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse, hopefully, we can move on with a peaceful solution in a united Ireland. Whether they, or we, like it or not, Unionists are Irish too.
Whilst serving in 2 Para, did many tours in Northern Ireland and survived few terrorist incidents. I saw the depravity of both Catholic and Protestants atrocities. We were never on the side of loyalist. Before each deployments we were given lectures on the history of the province which included how the Catholic section had been badly treated. People forget that the army went in to protect the Catholic community but were then turned upon. We did feel like we were the sacrificial goats placed in the middle but we did prevent the situation escalating into whole scale slaughter which would have been the case had we not deployed to the province. I am now glad that the people on both sides of the community now live in relative peace but grievances are still there under the surface but hopefully will be settled peacefully.
@@jamielee9350 Joined the army in 1980 (Welsh Guards). In 1984 transferred to Para Regt and joined A coy 2 Para in Ireland (Crossmaglen). B Coy a few years later then back to A Coy. In 1998 posted to Lichfield working in Training Wing. retired after 22 years whilst in Lichfield.
Did you not also see the depravity of Para atrocities.? Your regiment holds the distinction of killing more unarmed civilians in the six counties than any other British regiment. You say you were never on the side of the loyalists. Not many Catholics would believe that. So all the stories of collusion etc. were false? You say your army went in to protect the Catholic community but were then turned on by members of that community.. No. Your army turned on the Catholic community. The Falls Curfew of July 1970 occurred before any soldiers were killed by the IRA. During that curfew 4 unarmed civilians were killed by the British army. and they were not the only Catholics killed by your army before the IRA began to kill British soldiers in 1971..
Thank you for saying that. I understand that soldiers sent to Northern Ireland were not trained properly (and I don’t mean military trained) the situation was so bizarre it was unreal. I can imagine a soldier coming from say Newcastle or Leeds etc would just have it drummed into them “your enemy is the IRA and that means anyone who supports our troops out” So I’d be the fucking same if I was sent there as a young lad full of beans, you want to let off testosterone and you don’t realise your presence is creating the anger. A vicious circle which didn’t end well for anyone.
You're probably a child but let me assure you when they came out of their huts, they ran zig, zag like everyone else afraid they were going to get popped. Don't be thinking they were superhuman. They shit themselves like everyone else in a uniform.
I served on 4 tours. I'm from an Irish family although born in the UK. I'm proud of my country and proud of my Fathers country. It must be said that The Paras were non thinking Soldiers. Not short on bottle, just brain. You cannot just attack unarmed civilians and not expect blowback. This was about poor leadership and unbridled aggression.
A united Ireland is the only rational solution...in the words of Padraig Mac Piaris ,"IRELAND UNFREE WILL NEVER KNOW PEACE". That is the reality of the situation....
The very fact that the soldiers didn't see the Irish as people. Maybe it was was a survival tactic but how these soldiers dehumanized the Irish, "Ireland would be a great place if the Irish weren't there" was a common mentality.
So were they Romanian? I believe your nationality is decided by the country you are born in, anyone born in N Ireland would be Irish as those born in the south would be Irish. Perhaps you didn't take geography at shcooll!!
They are Irish, whether they wave the union flag 365 days a year, sing God Save the Queen every Sunday evening at 6:00 pm, paint the kerb stones red, white and blue, walk down the falls the 12th of July. The English see them as paddies just as much as the people down south. And the English are right, they are paddies.
@@gyto321 lol perhaps you don't know about northern Ireland , but the people being reffered to as Irish do not like being called Irish, they get very angry about it , they see themselves as British through and through, and they hate Irishness so much that a bunch of them went around murdering innocent Irish people for 30 years and even before the troubles ,so the British army calling them Irish is an insult to their cause and culture. So maybe open a geography book along side a history book yourself and you'll realise how abosolutely ridiculously and painfully unaware you are of the whole situation 🙄🤦🤷 Talk about r/confidentallyincorrect
The Parachute Regiment is an excellent war fighting machine and trained to be so - but - completely, inappropriately, deployed to Northern Ireland. Blame those who ordered the Parachute Regiment to be deployed - not the Regiment itself.
It was the members of the Parachute Regiment who made the conscious decision to fire on innocent people in Ballymurphy, Derry, et al. It was members of the Parachute Regiment who murdered innocent people. Fr Mullan was not murdered by the person who ordered the deployment of the Parachute Regiment, he was murdered by a member of the Parachute Regiment. They then lied and labelled those innocent people as terrorists. Would you blame individual terrorists, both republican and loyalist, for their actions or were they not responsible as they were told what to do?
No part of UK or Ireland should be in querrilla warfare which ira started. Ira nationalist alway blame and want shots rewond when it hurts own.. It was querrilla warfare..
They were murdering thugs PERIOD , deployed in Ballymurphy and Derry if these animals were arrested after Ballymurphy massacre then a good chance Bloody Sunday wouldn’t have happened
Full disclosure i was born in Dublin in 1966 - enlisted in the Irish army as a teenager. Part of me feels for the ordinary enlisted squaddie as they didnt see the big picture. Am not going to go over the long history of English involvement in Ireland. But at that particular time the Elitist Westminster crowd really screwed up. The situation could have been handled so much better in so many different ways but no they sent in the paras to beat the solution into place. Saying that it was down to just arrogance and stupidity on their part is being incredibly generous to them.
@@NC-dw3tk It changed over time. Mostly patrols along the border to interdict any attempts to moved weapons from the Republic into NI. There was a lot more the police did but that was more secretive. AFIK there was no direct lines of communication between the Irish army (PDF) and UK forces. There was quite some co operation between the guards and their counter parts in NI.
@@NC-dw3tk Am guessing there was an expectation that there would be full co operation in support of the security forces in NI. Many especially in the Army saw the British forces as little more than invaders . But there was absolutely no acceptance for the terrorists given their antics.
Westminster has lied to us all for centuries, we keep being told to look within ourselves to repair the damage when it’s one common denominator who has caused all of Irelands and Scotland’s problems for years.
Those criticising the men of 2 Para, of which I was one, seem to forget that we were sent there to stop the locals slaughtering each other. Another small fact is, many more soldiers and civilians were murdered by both factions than were killed by troops. We didn't go out each day intending to kill, we also had to wait until some thug started taking pot-shots at us, we then retaliated and proved to be far more efficient than them.
Aye.... The paras definitely performed their peacekeeping duties with distinction in Ballymurphy..... Murdering 11 civilians including a mother of 8 and a priest.... Then Mike Jackson briefing the press after it by saying that all those who had been killed were terrorists thus smearing their reputation for years after....these were certainly the actions of an honourable band of brothers.....
They couldn't be seen to be at war with, ostensibly, their own citizens. But if it wasn't a war, why haven't more soldiers been prosecuted for murder, e.g. of Julie Livingstone, Martin Peake, etc.? If it was a war, why weren't political POWs treated as such? Can't have it both ways.
Seeing this 50 years later, having lived through this but at a distance its all so terribly sad. Its quite unbelievable that these British Army soldiers were patrolling the semi derelict areas of a British city under the direction of a British government fighting an insurrection against British rule by people who were at least nominally British.
I lived and worked with many catholics at this time and ive never heard of the ballymurphy massacre, i rem there was an ongoing running battle for a week ,and some kids were trapped in their school for a couple of day ,but definatley never heard of massacre.news to me ,must be what theyre calling it now.
"this was a big complaint about the army, they had removed the barricades and made arrests...when INTERNMENT HAD BEGUN". Do you hear that guys....INTERNMENT....UNLAWFUL IMPRISONMENT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
Yes but the IRA were tearing the place apart, the Army came for my father during internment he was let out soon after as he had no involvement in it. I remember the IRA back then and they were glorified criminals on the most part that got an ego buzz of it. The 'did' kick the troubles of my starting a war with the old enemy they could not win, things could and should have been done better at the time so they are all to blame.
This is nostalgic. Moving on the loyalist love affair soon ended. And that regiment suffered their biggest loss of life since arnhem. Guess it really is made to go round.
@@martinburke362 Irrelevant. Your point concerned the root cause of this. I would argue that root cause was British colonialism. Northern Ireland was the most successful part of British foreign policy in Ireland. Think about that.
I think nationality is part of consciousness, I was born in Belfast with a British birth certificate and passport. I will always consider myself British.👍🇬🇧 Thanks for the video fascinating!
Yes, but the only reason you were born there is because your ancestors were planted there by the brits in an effort to supplant the ability of the Irish to rule themselves...
@@Scalettadom And? What’s that got to do with me? You should read the History on O’Neil, he sold to the British then moved to England. The English built all the infrastructure like roads/hospitals etc and the country was united for the first time as the UK. Republicans were a Marxist movement who’s only intention was to gain political power by any means one of which was killing civilians and gaining support through propaganda. They were the ones who caused division on the island, they murdered far more Irish than anyone else.
@@julianmoore8915 failed geography at school? Northern Ireland is not Ulster and Ulster is not Northern Ireland, never was and never will be. Ulster is 100% Irish. Did they not teach you the history of Northern Ireland when you were at school?
10.25 ... Sergeant Brian Michael Brown, 2 PARA, was killed by an IRA bomb near a border Army post at Forkhill, South Armagh, Northern Ireland on 9 August 1980.
I was member of 2 para I knew ausi brown,a great 👍 lad and all other good friends who gave their lives for ireland 🇮🇪 we got no thanks from ireland or England.
I was on the last para tour of northern ireland, 1 para south armagh 2005 mar -sept, it was relatively quiet, boring tour other than a few kids lobbing stones and shouting insults.
@19:44 my loyalist brain is pickled because the soldier says they were at war with the IRA but I thought Gerry Adams was the only one to call this a war!
We can only judge this Video with hindsight. At the time, it was what it was. 10 years on and the British Army in Northern Ireland is a totally different "Beast". I use that term as it can still be abusive and corrupt. I know, i was there in 86. 10 years after that and there is a new "Beast" again. Love or hate him, Tony Blair only had the well being of everyone with the Good Friday agreement. All will have to compromise. I am so happy that this is now a happy and stable tourist destination, Belfast. Who would of thought that back in 1975.
That was so hard to watch, letting the parachute regiment loose on the streets of Northern Ireland and them comparing it to the British army abuse in Aden waa sickening.
Tough to watch this without stirring deep emotional wounds. The blatant biases and prejudice are sickening to digest. The most destructive force to damage, destroy, and stripe the ENTIRE world is evident once again. Somehow, though, folks fail to acknowledge this common characteristic.
@@spm36, Mate…according to who? Using initials to communicate a sentence; are you intellectual? Text talk when addressing death on a horrific level. Seriously? I’m responding because I cannot stand stupidity especially when we are commenting on lives that were destructively destroyed. No, no laughing is involved in this situation.
@@JustAThought155 trying to interpret what you actually mean in that gross verbal detritus. Are you suggesting the British brought murder everywhere they went? Because the British Empire also brought the highest average standard of living in the world, was the first Empire to end slavery, transformed India, America and more into economic superpowers from feudal systems and exported many of the goods essential to survival today. I find it crazy that people who point the moralist finger at the Brits' don't do so at The Vikings. The Vikings are gloriously Irish and yet they brought nothing other than murder, rape and pillage. I'm Irish, I've no interest in being British but harbouring hate like a specific generation do serves absolutely nobody.
@@Aindriuh I studied History at University, Andrew. The Vikings that raided Britain and eventually installed a King launched out of Dublin. Those landing parties didn't come to civilise, they came to steal, rape and loot. Their lineage is largely irrelevant since my point was on the paradox of blaming everything the Brits' did whilst whitewashing the fact the Vikings - out of Ireland - did the same to the Brits. The point is, it is time to forgive and move on.
@frank 1976 true, although in the event of a united ireland they would have to bece irish. In reality, in nature, they are irish, especially the rural protestants, its a matter of how people in NI see their identity, I am old enough to remember the awful events like this film shows and the way it affected the adults, i was a kid , no one on any side comes out smelling of roses and I just hope for the best for all irish people, willing or not!
Maybe Irish by birth, British by choice? But last time I looked, the island of Ireland was part of the British Isles.... My Mother's family were Irish and Protestant from County Meath - is that not acceptable in your world?
Under law it's an offence to obstruct the highway. A road is a highway. So under law if anything the barricades would have to be removed. It just wouldn't have been a good idea at that time for the council to do it.
They were murdering innocent people men, women and a Catholic Priest who was only trying to help someone who was injured , being in the Army means upholding the law NOT being above it
You realise what happened was eventually exposed? Cold blooded murder covered up by the state. Loyalists defend the state murdering its citizens because you know they were catholics
@@joehart7260 or he could have been one of the men injured at warrenpoint, funny when people know fuk all on this subject, they can only bring up bloody sunday, it was the song and film that gave you the heads up wasnt?, just admit..
@@wor53lg50 I know more than you think. I know about the Para's singing "Where's ya papa gone" to the children on Ballymurphy after they had killed their fathers. I know about the Para's executing the wounded on Bloody Sunday. Warrenpoint was revenge for all of this.
The Irish need to know this. Big one. Many "Brits" are of Irish descent. I've done the DNA thing. 50% English. 30% Irish. 13% Scandinavian and 7% Italian. That is the British story. 30% Irish. Think of that when you talk of Brits. 30% Irish.
thats a good reason then for why the 'Brits' should respect their Irish heritage and pull their government out of ireland to let the irish people be free to rule ourselves
@@dulls8475 The one in which they were oppressing (by force of arms) the natives through concepts like INTERNMENT - incarceration without charge, process, sentence. In fact incarceration without a crime at all - unless being native is a crime in itself which makes us all criminals.
@@olearyma57 I agree that internment was a bad thing to do. I don't remember them locking up every Irishman though but you seem to think that. I suppose we could compare the Enniskillen bombing to it. Just out of interest the IRA killed way more Irishmen then HM forces did. I would be interested to know what your answer is to my last point.
@@dulls8475 Thank You for engaging on this point. The point I made is that: by virtue of the Special Powers Act - whereby you could be legally incarcerated without having been suspected of or actually commiting an offence - being Irish made us all GUILTY and liable to legal incarceration and some hundreds were actually interned. Many were tortured and objected to 'inhumane and degrading treatment' (this is forbidden by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, the United Nations Convention against Torture and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights). NO CITIZEN OF THE UK SHOULD BE OBJECT TO THE ARBITRARY and ONE SIDED IMPOSITION of SUCH A CONCEPT AS INTERNMENT. Of course NO LOYALISTS were lifted during this swoop. Many unarmed Nationalist civilians were killed during the suceeding 36 hours. NOW I ASK YOU WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN SUCH CIRCUMSTACES - MEKELY ACCEPT WHAT IS BEING DISHED OUT our FIGHT BACK. THIS IS NOT A COWARDLY PEOPLE. A COMMUNITY of SOME 10s of THOUSANDS FOUGHT BACK AGAINST SUCH a STATE (NI an APARTHEID CONSTRUCT). Yes the IRA killed more IRISHMEN THAN HM FORCES, BUT NOTHING after 1971 IN NI is quite what it seems. HM Forces pseudo killer loyalist death squads, RUC special branch black operations agents, UDR (a regiment of the British Army) all conducted a proxy war on the Irish People - killing and maiming thousands - these people are GONE dispatched by the British State. The Troubles was for the most part conducted in Ireland by people fighting in their own cities, towns, villages and rural areas not in GB (you call it the mainland) so the fatalaties would have been overwhelmingly Irish. THose who died on the British side would have been uncommonly suggestive and low intelligence squadies from inner city Liverpool, Glasgow and economically depressed area like Hartlepool or Grimsby - they were cannon fodder offered up to the IRA by the class superior masters.
@@dulls8475 'NO CITIZEN OF THE UK SHOULD .....' Made a mistake there. I am a CITIZEN of the Republic of Ireland. You , off course, are A SUBJECT of HER BRITTANIC MAJESTY. Best Regards to you Dulls.
I completed three tours ofN Ireland between July 1972 and February 1974. I lost a good friend to a Prv o sniper in October 72 his name Driver Kitchen RCT attached to Support company 1ST LI I THE Ardoyne District of Belfast whilst on VCP Duties So I have no love for The Irish especially The Catholics fromBelfast Even today 50 later I get on edge when I hear The Ulster accent. elfast 😢 d
Doubly tragic to see Scots soldiers killing Irish soldiers in the name of a foreign monarch. A United Ireland and an independent Scotland now seem inevitable in 21st century and the myth of a "kingdom" which is "united" will be relegated to history.
A foreign monarch? The Scottish King came South. All of the British monarchs after 1603 are descended directly from James VI of Scotland. The last English monarch of England was Harold Godwinson in 1066.
It was in these early days of the troubles (1970) that the British Govt should have started to recede out of Ireland in a fair, appropriate manner, more moderate politicians and people from both sides would have supported this. Nobody could negotiate effectively with the extreme factions of the Republicans and Loyalists but the moderate communities being the majority needed to be represented and their views come to fruition. They could have shortened the troubles by decades.
I remember this, the Paras were brutal and were not slow in giving 'anyone' a kicking, they once pulled out a mans finger nails, you cant really take working class, low educated men off the streets train them in ultra violence and then say 'there is your enemy' and expect them not to misbehave, I seen them smashing homes to pieces for the fun of it, nonetheless the Provisional IRA gave them the excuse and kept them on the streets.
Considering that a large majority of former Parachute Regiment soldiers entered into professional lives, such as businessmen, lawyers, teachers, some doctors and University Lecturers (myself included), I find your comment naïve, rather uneducated and low on merit and truth.
@@victorthorn8967 The German Wehrmacht and its officer class returned to normal professions after WW2 and look what they did, its not a condition that if you behave badly in conflicts you cant behave properly in non conflict conditions. I seen what I seen, I was there, I remember many had a sadistic pleasure in making discomfort for many people. I would doubt much of the working class Paras entered those professions, but if they did it does not exonerate them of any crimes of misbehaviour they carried out, it just makes them 'professionals' with a past. Cameron has already apologised for bloody Sunday.
@@victorthorn8967 Look at Corporal Brown. These people come from Inner city Liverpool, Glasgow or depressed area like Hartlepool, Grimsby. Uncommonly low intelligence, malleable, no critical faculties, one dimensional skill (for uncontrolled violence at the behest of another human being). Smug, certain of British exceptionalism, disparaging of Paddy , living in a 1930s world. The only more stupid class I know are University Lecturers. Stridently one dimensional , parasites on a productive society, low operating skills at any job, would not last five minutes if their pay cheque was was put in the bank every week. Massive amounts of paperwork no productivity. Deluded in a society that has twigged them. Redundant in a world of ChatGPT and AI. Hidebound by their own very dated pet projects. Self regarding beyond belief because the limits of their conscousness is so very close to their overweening self regard. Lacking initiative or an entrepreneurial outlook they rot for 30 years in stale, dank, venal acadaemia. Let me give you your own rather judgemental comment back to you 'I find your comment naïve, rather uneducated and low on merit and truth.'.
@@victorthorn8967 are you referring to the officers and maybe the senior NCO's, when you say that the large majority go on to be lawyers/businessmen/lecturers/teachers/doctors etc? I know an ex para, in his early 50's now who was a refuse collector before he joined the army and he is still does semi skilled/unskilled manual work. He left as a lance corporal. I don't doubt that most of the officers and some of the NCO's become businessmen, lawyers and doctors etc, but I don't think that the large majority of the other ranks end up as professionals.
That picture was probably taken during "Operation Motorman" 31/7/1972 . The British sent in several Centurion AVRE to break up the barricades in the no-go areas.
They won't do it as they are protected. They murdered innocent civilians both in Ballymurphy and Derry and if justice was served they should be be serving life sentences..
As ever, what comes across in this type of footage is just how similar Nationalists and Unionists are. It goes beyond the accent, obviously, it's the working-class background, attitudes, turn of phrase, passion, daily tribulations, etc. and the similarity is thrown into focus more sharply in comparison with the Scots, the English and the Aussie squaddies, and especially the Ruperts. But for the machinations and manipulations of politicians, this could have been sorted out years ago. We were all pawns in a game.
Pretty near on morons is his reason for armed bullying. What a disgusting thing to come out of the mouth of a man waring the queens uniform. I hope she is proud
Just looked up and found out that the paratrooper at the start who everybody hated was killed by a roadside bomb on the border in 1980 Long way from Belfast....Brown his name was..I guess you could call that karma..
Or what goes around comes around, that's another one..Theres so many things to say but I'll stop posting just for you OK...leave it in the past as they say...
Yes , good point .. Know what you mean .. This is from NZ .. Soon as I heard him speak, thought ' He's not a Pom, I think he's a KIwi who's spent a lot of time in Britain ".. Whoever.. Whatever.. One thing that's not in doubt .. He's a hard Bugger !! Hope you are enjoying ' A Troubled Land ' as much as I am . Looking forward to our next Test match.
G.I. Joe lieing his fucking head off in the beginning there....one shot one kill from an smg...then dump a mag into a " gunman" and wound him...he must have been stading 2 inches from the first chap...
..got to laugh at the lass who complained that after she had in effect abandoned her home came back to find her front door damaged after a huge barricade erected outside her home had been removed by the army - when questioned she advised to the camera that nothing inside had been touched.
WHY? What a buffoon you are. can you imagine what any other army other than The British Army would have done to Ireland/NI. They would have levelled the place.
Yes but he was saying other governments would have resorted to a terrifying level of bloodshed, while the British government didn’t want that at all! You are being closed minded and not looking at it from the broader perspective.
Love that Corporal, but probably not a candidate for diplomatic liasons... But I bet hes the man you want on your side in a battle. Hope hes well now, and not being persued by the woke court cases going on.
That Paratrooper at the start whos head was grazed by a round..(yeah we believe you) b4 he went all trigger happy with his rifle shooting innocent people dead was blown to smithereens by a 200lb bomb on the "border" in 1980...a long way from belfast..Brown bread he is so i suppose karma is real..his name was Brown by the way...
I served multiple tours in NI, we should never have been there . I sincerely hope peace will continue to prevail , the people of the north of Ireland deserve it.
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@@georgepatterson3428doesn’t matter what it’s called. In a few decades we will all be Gone. What matters is peace. There are new challenges now and the people in the bri🎉ish isles have a shared history. Mistakes were made and hopefully won’t be made ever again
I served 19 years , my mate served 20 years , he served a huge numbers of tours in northern Ireland and it altered him deeply for life , i lost a good friend as well . I never every stop thinking about my mates and my time with them . Till we all muster for the last time, rip lads , heroes all .
not heroes , invaders -occupiers.
Now England invaded karma great got what yous use to do to other countries
Heroes? 😂
@@gearoftones8585 war crmes
@@gearoftones8585 zeros
The nine "gunmen" the commentator says the Paras killed included a 44 year old mother of eight, whose own daughter was married to a soldier; a man shot and taken into Army custody, whereupon he was hot again inside the barracks; a priest who was shot giving last rites to a dying man; and an ex-British soldier who lost an arm on the beaches of Normandy, shot outside the church where he worked. These facts were known by the media at the time and simply ignored in favour of the Army's lies. It took 50 years for the truth to finally be admitted. It is hard to stomach listening to the chuckles of the reporter as he interviews that smug, arrogant thug of a corporal.
Yes British smugness, limited consciousness, low intelligence and absolute certainty in the arrogant verbal delivery of British superiority are amazing to behold. Ballymurphy massacre done and dusted. But its all ahead of you yet .... Bloody Sunday, Whiterock massacre. Springhill massacre, New Lodge massacre. You can just imagine Corporal (Jones ?) letting it all out on the Morons on Bloody Sunday.
How can anybody justify deliberately killing a priest waving a white handkerchief? It was not an accident.
@@ATLmodK It was - as you have correctly divined from the bald facts - sheer unadulterated murder. Committed by those killers par excellece the first battalion the parachute regiment.
@@olearyma57 it's in the Paras and sas recruiting to deliberately select pychopaths
Mickey yes it's sick listening to these arrogant young soldiers, who really are only trying to make themselves brave for the television, we know what they really do
A living horror for all involved...... but those at the top pulling the strings. Thank you for posting this film.
Loads of great content I've never seen on here. Brilliant channel 👏
The sense of self righteousness brings back many bad memories of these bastards
Another great upload. Thank you. I was in junior school in England when I first started being aware of the Troubles. Back then to my young mind it was Army good, Irish bad. It wasnt until i was in my 20s working with guys from both sides of the divide that I got more of an education. Even now it seems such a complex situation to me and I think unless you grew up in NI during that time you can never truly understand it .
That's probably the fairest comment I've read about this issue.
Ultimately, foreigners came to Ireland, starved us by the million whilst they sold te food we produced, and occupied our land, murdered our people, and stole our resources.
ANY man would defend their people and their homes in a situation. That's literally what the British army is for, for the Brits.
If the English never tried to steal our land, none of them would have ever been hurt on our land.
@NiSiochainGanSaoirse, hopefully, we can move on with a peaceful solution in a united Ireland. Whether they, or we, like it or not, Unionists are Irish too.
Whilst serving in 2 Para, did many tours in Northern Ireland and survived few terrorist incidents. I saw the depravity of both Catholic and Protestants atrocities. We were never on the side of loyalist. Before each deployments we were given lectures on the history of the province which included how the Catholic section had been badly treated. People forget that the army went in to protect the Catholic community but were then turned upon. We did feel like we were the sacrificial goats placed in the middle but we did prevent the situation escalating into whole scale slaughter which would have been the case had we not deployed to the province. I am now glad that the people on both sides of the community now live in relative peace but grievances are still there under the surface but hopefully will be settled peacefully.
Hello Rocky, I served 26 yrs ..... 73 - 99 . When were you in ?
@@jamielee9350 Joined the army in 1980 (Welsh Guards). In 1984 transferred to Para Regt and joined A coy 2 Para in Ireland (Crossmaglen). B Coy a few years later then back to A Coy. In 1998 posted to Lichfield working in Training Wing. retired after 22 years whilst in Lichfield.
Did you not also see the depravity of Para atrocities.? Your regiment holds the distinction of killing more unarmed civilians in the six counties than any other British regiment. You say you were never on the side of the loyalists. Not many Catholics would believe that. So all the stories of collusion etc. were false? You say your army went in to protect the Catholic community but were then turned on by members of that community.. No. Your army turned on the Catholic community. The Falls Curfew of July 1970 occurred before any soldiers were killed by the IRA. During that curfew 4 unarmed civilians were killed by the British army. and they were not the only Catholics killed by your army before the IRA began to kill British soldiers in 1971..
Thank you for saying that. I understand that soldiers sent to Northern Ireland were not trained properly (and I don’t mean military trained) the situation was so bizarre it was unreal.
I can imagine a soldier coming from say Newcastle or Leeds etc would just have it drummed into them “your enemy is the IRA and that means anyone who supports our troops out”
So I’d be the fucking same if I was sent there as a young lad full of beans, you want to let off testosterone and you don’t realise your presence is creating the anger.
A vicious circle which didn’t end well for anyone.
You obviously had the Propaghanda news which had some accurate details but not full story.
The paras when they walked out of the barracks had this look of "we are going to kick ass"
Great
@david gallagher Well done lol
@davebrayfbyou sad little rat !
You're probably a child but let me assure you when they came out of their huts, they ran zig, zag like everyone else afraid they were going to get popped. Don't be thinking they were superhuman. They shit themselves like everyone else in a uniform.
I served on 4 tours. I'm from an Irish family although born in the UK. I'm proud of my country and proud of my Fathers country. It must be said that The Paras were non thinking Soldiers. Not short on bottle, just brain. You cannot just attack unarmed civilians and not expect blowback. This was about poor leadership and unbridled aggression.
Fantastic film footage shame Ireland has had to cope with this over the years such a beautiful country
A united Ireland is the only rational solution...in the words of Padraig Mac Piaris ,"IRELAND UNFREE WILL NEVER KNOW PEACE". That is the reality of the situation....
Well said.sums it up 100
@@STEVIEBHOY Never going to happen. I wish it would. If Ireland unites, the prorestants will kick off.
@@STEVIEBHOY that Padrag sounds like a right fruit, does he dress up as a sailor?
Surely you can also understand the situation having retired Sir 👍
The very fact that the soldiers didn't see the Irish as people. Maybe it was was a survival tactic but how these soldiers dehumanized the Irish, "Ireland would be a great place if the Irish weren't there" was a common mentality.
I love how the paratroopers called the Protestants 'Irish'
So were they Romanian? I believe your nationality is decided by the country you are born in, anyone born in N Ireland would be Irish as those born in the south would be Irish. Perhaps you didn't take geography at shcooll!!
They are Irish, whether they wave the union flag 365 days a year, sing God Save the Queen every Sunday evening at 6:00 pm, paint the kerb stones red, white and blue, walk down the falls the 12th of July. The English see them as paddies just as much as the people down south. And the English are right, they are paddies.
@@mcivor321 they sound like paddies anyway 🤣
Northern Irish 🤪 just like the royal Irish regiment ✌ still part of Britain so they can say they are British aswell
@@gyto321 lol perhaps you don't know about northern Ireland , but the people being reffered to as Irish do not like being called Irish, they get very angry about it , they see themselves as British through and through, and they hate Irishness so much that a bunch of them went around murdering innocent Irish people for 30 years and even before the troubles ,so the British army calling them Irish is an insult to their cause and culture.
So maybe open a geography book along side a history book yourself and you'll realise how abosolutely ridiculously and painfully unaware you are of the whole situation 🙄🤦🤷
Talk about r/confidentallyincorrect
The Parachute Regiment is an excellent war fighting machine and trained to be so - but - completely, inappropriately, deployed to Northern Ireland. Blame those who ordered the Parachute Regiment to be deployed - not the Regiment itself.
It was the members of the Parachute Regiment who made the conscious decision to fire on innocent people in Ballymurphy, Derry, et al. It was members of the Parachute Regiment who murdered innocent people. Fr Mullan was not murdered by the person who ordered the deployment of the Parachute Regiment, he was murdered by a member of the Parachute Regiment.
They then lied and labelled those innocent people as terrorists.
Would you blame individual terrorists, both republican and loyalist, for their actions or were they not responsible as they were told what to do?
No part of UK or Ireland should be in querrilla warfare which ira started. Ira nationalist alway blame and want shots rewond when it hurts own.. It was querrilla warfare..
They were murdering thugs PERIOD , deployed in Ballymurphy and Derry if these animals were arrested after Ballymurphy massacre then a good chance Bloody Sunday wouldn’t have happened
Gonna blame the troopers who murdered the unarmed Irish like so much sport.
Sorry, no idea what point you are trying to make,
Full disclosure i was born in Dublin in 1966 - enlisted in the Irish army as a teenager. Part of me feels for the ordinary enlisted squaddie as they didnt see the big picture. Am not going to go over the long history of English involvement in Ireland. But at that particular time the Elitist Westminster crowd really screwed up. The situation could have been handled so much better in so many different ways but no they sent in the paras to beat the solution into place. Saying that it was down to just arrogance and stupidity on their part is being incredibly generous to them.
@@NC-dw3tk It changed over time. Mostly patrols along the border to interdict any attempts to moved weapons from the Republic into NI. There was a lot more the police did but that was more secretive. AFIK there was no direct lines of communication between the Irish army (PDF) and UK forces. There was quite some co operation between the guards and their counter parts in NI.
@@NC-dw3tk Am guessing there was an expectation that there would be full co operation in support of the security forces in NI. Many especially in the Army saw the British forces as little more than invaders . But there was absolutely no acceptance for the terrorists given their antics.
@@NC-dw3tk Thatcher complained that Dublin didn't put more police/army on patrol along border.
Dublin couldn't afford it even if they wanted.
They are not English but British government
@@hughwhite7055 they didn't need to, the IRA weren't attacking targets in the Republic
Now we know what we knew all along, state sponsored lies.
Westminster has lied to us all for centuries, we keep being told to look within ourselves to repair the damage when it’s one common denominator who has caused all of Irelands and Scotland’s problems for years.
@@mikebannerman72 the truth.
A very honest film. Thanks
Very intresting and actully origanol .I appreciate this thank you it's hard to find "un doctored " material from the time 🇬🇧
Glad you enjoyed it! More to come!
Those criticising the men of 2 Para, of which I was one, seem to forget that we were sent there to stop the locals slaughtering each other. Another small fact is, many more soldiers and civilians were murdered by both factions than were killed by troops. We didn't go out each day intending to kill, we also had to wait until some thug started taking pot-shots at us, we then retaliated and proved to be far more efficient than them.
Truth. This is lost in the reporting of the anti establishment British media.
Aye.... The paras definitely performed their peacekeeping duties with distinction in Ballymurphy..... Murdering 11 civilians including a mother of 8 and a priest.... Then Mike Jackson briefing the press after it by saying that all those who had been killed were terrorists thus smearing their reputation for years after....these were certainly the actions of an honourable band of brothers.....
Well said mate
@frank 1976 What fantasy world do you live in where 2 Para were not professional soldiers. Just ask the Argentines they can confirm
@@st8319 I think he's talking about the IRA
He says they are at war. But the British government said it wasn’t at war.?
They couldn't be seen to be at war with, ostensibly, their own citizens. But if it wasn't a war, why haven't more soldiers been prosecuted for murder, e.g. of Julie Livingstone, Martin Peake, etc.?
If it was a war, why weren't political POWs treated as such?
Can't have it both ways.
Infantry soldiers are not 'police men.' The Para's are elite shock troops- asking them to 'police' Belfast was foolish.
Seeing this 50 years later, having lived through this but at a distance its all so terribly sad. Its quite unbelievable that these British Army soldiers were patrolling the semi derelict areas of a British city under the direction of a British government fighting an insurrection against British rule by people who were at least nominally British.
I lived and worked with many catholics at this time and ive never heard of the ballymurphy massacre, i rem there was an ongoing running battle for a week ,and some kids were trapped in their school for a couple of day ,but definatley never heard of massacre.news to me ,must be what theyre calling it now.
Never use soldiers as a policeman never. What a waste of human resources lives property a lesson learned never again
"this was a big complaint about the army, they had removed the barricades and made arrests...when INTERNMENT HAD BEGUN". Do you hear that guys....INTERNMENT....UNLAWFUL IMPRISONMENT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
Yes but the IRA were tearing the place apart, the Army came for my father during internment he was let out soon after as he had no involvement in it. I remember the IRA back then and they were glorified criminals on the most part that got an ego buzz of it. The 'did' kick the troubles of my starting a war with the old enemy they could not win, things could and should have been done better at the time so they are all to blame.
HOW DO YOU KNOW WHO WAS INNOCENT AND WHO WAS A PLAYER. YOU DONT SO KEEP IT SHUT
@@acecolnaco6587 EVERY TERRORIST ARRESTED SAID THEY WERE INNOCENT
@@julianmoore8915 I didn't know the brits lifted 'arrested' themselves?
@julian moore it's just you said terrorist and they where they only terrorists round here...
This is nostalgic. Moving on the loyalist love affair soon ended. And that regiment suffered their biggest loss of life since arnhem. Guess it really is made to go round.
Then afterwards the SAS taught your boys a lesson at Loughgall 🇬🇧🤣
Warren point 😜✊🏽💚
Did the Parachute Regiment wear a different pattern of camouflage jackets? The type they are wearing looks different from what other soldiers wore.
Yep, the dennison smock
I am British but our neglect of Northern ireland at this time was the route cause of all this!!!
Ya or else putting half a million British people into Ireland. Take your pick
@@jackocallaghan9077 so what you gunna do with them then?
@@martinburke362 Irrelevant. Your point concerned the root cause of this. I would argue that root cause was British colonialism. Northern Ireland was the most successful part of British foreign policy in Ireland. Think about that.
@@jackocallaghan9077 it's always irrelevant when you haven't got a clue!!
@@martinburke362 wow
Great video thank you
I think nationality is part of consciousness, I was born in Belfast with a British birth certificate and passport.
I will always consider myself British.👍🇬🇧
Thanks for the video fascinating!
Yes, but the only reason you were born there is because your ancestors were planted there by the brits in an effort to supplant the ability of the Irish to rule themselves...
@@Scalettadom And? What’s that got to do with me?
You should read the History on O’Neil, he sold to the British then moved to England.
The English built all the infrastructure like roads/hospitals etc and the country was united for the first time as the UK. Republicans were a Marxist movement who’s only intention was to gain political power by any means one of which was killing civilians and gaining support through propaganda. They were the ones who caused division on the island, they murdered far more Irish than anyone else.
IF YOU WERE BORN IN BELFAST THEN YOU ARE BRITISH BECAUSE ULSTER IS BRITISH ALWAYS WILL BE.
@@julianmoore8915 uh oh, an angry loyalist occupier....
@@julianmoore8915 failed geography at school?
Northern Ireland is not Ulster and Ulster is not Northern Ireland, never was and never will be.
Ulster is 100% Irish. Did they not teach you the history of Northern Ireland when you were at school?
Never underestimate the Maroon Machine.
Thats why they couldn't get away from goat herders in Afghanistan quick enough?? 😂😂😂
10.25 ... Sergeant Brian Michael Brown, 2 PARA, was killed by an IRA bomb near a border Army post at Forkhill, South Armagh, Northern Ireland on 9 August 1980.
Yes he was Chris
I was member of 2 para I knew ausi brown,a great 👍 lad and all other good friends who gave their lives for ireland 🇮🇪 we got no thanks from ireland or England.
He actually was honest in his opinions on either side. Im Irish i have no problem with his opinions
He should have stayed home instead of going to someone else's country to oppress the locals.
Ah well
I was on the last para tour of northern ireland, 1 para south armagh 2005 mar -sept, it was relatively quiet, boring tour other than a few kids lobbing stones and shouting insults.
Yep we both had the same reaction
@19:44 my loyalist brain is pickled because the soldier says they were at war with the IRA but I thought Gerry Adams was the only one to call this a war!
Then your brain needs to evolve more
You are war with your brother if never in contact your back is up prepared no different
How do you remove a barricade gently??? Please post your answers on a post card.
Same way they were erected piece by piece
By email
@@peterstubbs5934 How do you remove a barricade by email?
Without putting resident's doors and windows in.
We can only judge this Video with hindsight. At the time, it was what it was. 10 years on and the British Army in Northern Ireland is a totally different "Beast". I use that term as it can still be abusive and corrupt. I know, i was there in 86. 10 years after that and there is a new "Beast" again. Love or hate him, Tony Blair only had the well being of everyone with the Good Friday agreement. All will have to compromise. I am so happy that this is now a happy and stable tourist destination, Belfast. Who would of thought that back in 1975.
That was so hard to watch, letting the parachute regiment loose on the streets of Northern Ireland and them comparing it to the British army abuse in Aden waa sickening.
A very honest film thanks
Tough to watch this without stirring deep emotional wounds. The blatant biases and prejudice are sickening to digest. The most destructive force to damage, destroy, and stripe the ENTIRE world is evident once again. Somehow, though, folks fail to acknowledge this common characteristic.
Lmao OK mate cry me a river
@@spm36, Mate…according to who? Using initials to communicate a sentence; are you intellectual? Text talk when addressing death on a horrific level. Seriously? I’m responding because I cannot stand stupidity especially when we are commenting on lives that were destructively destroyed. No, no laughing is involved in this situation.
@@JustAThought155 trying to interpret what you actually mean in that gross verbal detritus. Are you suggesting the British brought murder everywhere they went? Because the British Empire also brought the highest average standard of living in the world, was the first Empire to end slavery, transformed India, America and more into economic superpowers from feudal systems and exported many of the goods essential to survival today.
I find it crazy that people who point the moralist finger at the Brits' don't do so at The Vikings. The Vikings are gloriously Irish and yet they brought nothing other than murder, rape and pillage.
I'm Irish, I've no interest in being British but harbouring hate like a specific generation do serves absolutely nobody.
@@Aindriuh I studied History at University, Andrew. The Vikings that raided Britain and eventually installed a King launched out of Dublin. Those landing parties didn't come to civilise, they came to steal, rape and loot.
Their lineage is largely irrelevant since my point was on the paradox of blaming everything the Brits' did whilst whitewashing the fact the Vikings - out of Ireland - did the same to the Brits.
The point is, it is time to forgive and move on.
Utter nonsense.
Notice how the para commander called the Protestants Irish 😂
Northern IRELAND.....
They are Irish, they live on the island of ireland and have just as much right to irishness as anyone else who lives there
Youre clutching at straws arent you?
@frank 1976 true, although in the event of a united ireland they would have to bece irish. In reality, in nature, they are irish, especially the rural protestants, its a matter of how people in NI see their identity, I am old enough to remember the awful events like this film shows and the way it affected the adults, i was a kid , no one on any side comes out smelling of roses and I just hope for the best for all irish people, willing or not!
Maybe Irish by birth, British by choice? But last time I looked, the island of Ireland was part of the British Isles.... My Mother's family were Irish and Protestant from County Meath - is that not acceptable in your world?
Under law it's an offence to obstruct the highway. A road is a highway. So under law if anything the barricades would have to be removed. It just wouldn't have been a good idea at that time for the council to do it.
A time when soldiers could chat about their job without fear of being prosecuted by traitors
The traitors to law and order were the ones who protected soldiers from prosecution for decades. Shameful.
They were murdering innocent people men, women and a Catholic Priest who was only trying to help someone who was injured , being in the Army means upholding the law NOT being above it
Chat or tell lies about the many unarmed civilians they murdered.
This Corporal seems like the kind of man to defend peace!🤔
He comes across as a sadistic thug.
That Corporal could well have been one of the killers on Bloody Sunday.
You realise what happened was eventually exposed? Cold blooded murder covered up by the state. Loyalists defend the state murdering its citizens because you know they were catholics
@@joehart7260 or he could have been one of the men injured at warrenpoint, funny when people know fuk all on this subject, they can only bring up bloody sunday, it was the song and film that gave you the heads up wasnt?, just admit..
@@wor53lg50 I know more than you think. I know about the Para's singing "Where's ya papa gone" to the children on Ballymurphy after they had killed their fathers. I know about the Para's executing the wounded on Bloody Sunday. Warrenpoint was revenge for all of this.
Is this an early recording of Sgt Brian Brown KIA 9 th August 1980?
Yes. There is a photograph of the said SGT. Brown which matches this guy exactly.
That was the only way the way the 2 legged 🐀s could take him out.
The Irish need to know this. Big one. Many "Brits" are of Irish descent. I've done the DNA thing. 50% English. 30% Irish. 13% Scandinavian and 7% Italian. That is the British story. 30% Irish.
Think of that when you talk of Brits. 30% Irish.
Ireland is not England.
thats a good reason then for why the 'Brits' should respect their Irish heritage and pull their government out of ireland to let the irish people be free to rule ourselves
@Daz Randall
How’s Brexit britan going, daz 😂😂
@Daz Randall
I don’t care how I spell it… so how’s Brexit britland going bozo
1. That's just your DNA test. 2. DNA tests like this are known to be unreliable
Occupation troops always a target
Germans found that in occupied europe
British in palestine aden
Americans in vietnam iraq afghan!
What country were they occupying by the way?
@@dulls8475 The one in which they were oppressing (by force of arms) the natives through concepts like INTERNMENT - incarceration without charge, process, sentence. In fact incarceration without a crime at all - unless being native is a crime in itself which makes us all criminals.
@@olearyma57 I agree that internment was a bad thing to do. I don't remember them locking up every Irishman though but you seem to think that. I suppose we could compare the Enniskillen bombing to it. Just out of interest the IRA killed way more Irishmen then HM forces did. I would be interested to know what your answer is to my last point.
@@dulls8475 Thank You for engaging on this point. The point I made is that: by virtue of the Special Powers Act - whereby you could be legally incarcerated without having been suspected of or actually commiting an offence - being Irish made us all GUILTY and liable to legal incarceration and some hundreds were actually interned. Many were tortured and objected to 'inhumane and degrading treatment' (this is forbidden by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Article 3 of the European Convention on Human Rights, the United Nations Convention against Torture and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights). NO CITIZEN OF THE UK SHOULD BE OBJECT TO THE ARBITRARY and ONE SIDED IMPOSITION of SUCH A CONCEPT AS INTERNMENT.
Of course NO LOYALISTS were lifted during this swoop. Many unarmed Nationalist civilians were killed during the suceeding 36 hours. NOW I ASK YOU WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN SUCH CIRCUMSTACES - MEKELY ACCEPT WHAT IS BEING DISHED OUT our FIGHT BACK. THIS IS NOT A COWARDLY PEOPLE. A COMMUNITY of SOME 10s of THOUSANDS FOUGHT BACK AGAINST SUCH a STATE (NI an APARTHEID CONSTRUCT).
Yes the IRA killed more IRISHMEN THAN HM FORCES, BUT NOTHING after 1971 IN NI is quite what it seems. HM Forces pseudo killer loyalist death squads, RUC special branch black operations agents, UDR (a regiment of the British Army) all conducted a proxy war on the Irish People - killing and maiming thousands - these people are GONE dispatched by the British State.
The Troubles was for the most part conducted in Ireland by people fighting in their own cities, towns, villages and rural areas not in GB (you call it the mainland) so the fatalaties would have been overwhelmingly Irish. THose who died on the British side would have been uncommonly suggestive and low intelligence squadies from inner city Liverpool, Glasgow and economically depressed area like Hartlepool or Grimsby - they were cannon fodder offered up to the IRA by the class superior masters.
@@dulls8475 'NO CITIZEN OF THE UK SHOULD .....' Made a mistake there.
I am a CITIZEN of the Republic of Ireland.
You , off course, are A SUBJECT of HER BRITTANIC MAJESTY.
Best Regards to you Dulls.
The cups of tea soon stopped?
That woman who was away the night the barricades came down, looks like Liam Neeson.
I think I understand how Bloodly Sunday occurred. Soldiers aren't trained to control civil disputes.
Cpl theobald seems like a reasonable man to me
I completed three tours ofN Ireland between July 1972 and February 1974.
I lost a good friend to a Prv o sniper in October 72 his name Driver Kitchen RCT attached to Support company 1ST LI I THE Ardoyne District of Belfast whilst on VCP Duties
So I have no love for The Irish especially The Catholics fromBelfast
Even today 50 later I get on edge when I hear The Ulster accent.
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“he throws a petrol bomb at me” LIES
Is the first soldiers head shaved where the bullet grazed ?
Doubly tragic to see Scots soldiers killing Irish soldiers in the name of a foreign monarch. A United Ireland and an independent Scotland now seem inevitable in 21st century and the myth of a "kingdom" which is "united" will be relegated to history.
A foreign monarch? The Scottish King came South. All of the British monarchs after 1603 are descended directly from James VI of Scotland. The last English monarch of England was Harold Godwinson in 1066.
Someone is very thick and uneducated, 🤔
You are the 45% Ha ha ha
They were fighting terrorists! Not Irish soldiers.
In your dreams.
It was in these early days of the troubles (1970) that the British Govt should have started to recede out of Ireland in a fair, appropriate manner, more moderate politicians and people from both sides would have supported this. Nobody could negotiate effectively with the extreme factions of the Republicans and Loyalists but the moderate communities being the majority needed to be represented and their views come to fruition. They could have shortened the troubles by decades.
Unpopular Soldier Brown, couldn’t contain his joy at telling her let off a few rounds??? Hmmm he killed people? And he’s frothing about it
kill or be killed
Shocker, that's what soldiers are trained to do when being attacked.
His contempt for the ordinary people is palpable. I suppose that’s what a trained killer must feel towards those he kills.
Good lad.
@@Jungleland33 They are not supposed to murder unarmed British civilians, or hadn't you heard?
The loyalists must've been relieved when the British came in. Were they so afraid of us little bitty Catholics???
Educate yourself before you comment Mary.
@@awall7635 Oh I'm well educated dear, I know my history, all of it, I'm just so glad I'm on the right side of it.
@@marymagee805 The right side of it? I don't think your educated at all,dear.
@@awall7635 LOL!!!!.
British Army was initially sent in to stem the Protestant attacks upon the Catholic community.
CLASSIC ...GREAT YOU TUBE !!!!😊
Is that a young Sam McAllister being interviewed around 12.09 mins in on the shankill
Apartheid exists
Palestine resists 🇵🇸🇮🇪
And what happened when it was dismantled in South Africa?
I remember this, the Paras were brutal and were not slow in giving 'anyone' a kicking, they once pulled out a mans finger nails, you cant really take working class, low educated men off the streets train them in ultra violence and then say 'there is your enemy' and expect them not to misbehave, I seen them smashing homes to pieces for the fun of it, nonetheless the Provisional IRA gave them the excuse and kept them on the streets.
utter crap
Considering that a large majority of former Parachute Regiment soldiers entered into professional lives, such as businessmen, lawyers, teachers, some doctors and University Lecturers (myself included), I find your comment naïve, rather uneducated and low on merit and truth.
@@victorthorn8967 The German Wehrmacht and its officer class returned to normal professions after WW2 and look what they did, its not a condition that if you behave badly in conflicts you cant behave properly in non conflict conditions. I seen what I seen, I was there, I remember many had a sadistic pleasure in making discomfort for many people. I would doubt much of the working class Paras entered those professions, but if they did it does not exonerate them of any crimes of misbehaviour they carried out, it just makes them 'professionals' with a past. Cameron has already apologised for bloody Sunday.
@@victorthorn8967 Look at Corporal Brown. These people come from Inner city Liverpool, Glasgow or depressed area like Hartlepool, Grimsby. Uncommonly low intelligence, malleable, no critical faculties, one dimensional skill (for uncontrolled violence at the behest of another human being). Smug, certain of British exceptionalism, disparaging of Paddy , living in a 1930s world. The only more stupid class I know are University Lecturers. Stridently one dimensional , parasites on a productive society, low operating skills at any job, would not last five minutes if their pay cheque was was put in the bank every week. Massive amounts of paperwork no productivity. Deluded in a society that has twigged them. Redundant in a world of ChatGPT and AI. Hidebound by their own very dated pet projects. Self regarding beyond belief because the limits of their conscousness is so very close to their overweening self regard. Lacking initiative or an entrepreneurial outlook they rot for 30 years in stale, dank, venal acadaemia. Let me give you your own rather judgemental comment back to you 'I find your comment naïve, rather uneducated and low on merit and truth.'.
@@victorthorn8967 are you referring to the officers and maybe the senior NCO's, when you say that the large majority go on to be lawyers/businessmen/lecturers/teachers/doctors etc?
I know an ex para, in his early 50's now who was a refuse collector before he joined the army and he is still does semi skilled/unskilled manual work. He left as a lance corporal.
I don't doubt that most of the officers and some of the NCO's become businessmen, lawyers and doctors etc, but I don't think that the large majority of the other ranks end up as professionals.
11.05 Mr Eddie Magee, my granny's neighbour, Kashmir RD.
Where did this thumb come from.... Didn't think tanks were ever sent to NI ¿?
That picture was probably taken during "Operation Motorman" 31/7/1972 . The British sent in several Centurion AVRE to break up the barricades in the no-go areas.
They had their turrets reversed and guns covered over.
It would be fantastic to follow up with the British soldiers to see their views now in hindsight.
Would interesting to see your view if you had to walk in their boots for a day too instead of safely tucked up behind a phone screen
@@spm36 yes it would
What would you like to know?
I served there in the year running up to the Ceasefire and the year after.
Place was tearing itself to bits.
@@brownwarrior6867 did you feel frustrated having to serve there?
When you weren't actively patrolling were you able to have a social life ?
They won't do it as they are protected. They murdered innocent civilians both in Ballymurphy and Derry and if justice was served they should be be serving life sentences..
Brown your the moron you should be ashamed of your self you were nothing but a hired gun man
The parachute regiment my old battalion 2 para
And mine, Stubbsy
Thats nice and where are you living now?
The Paras absolute legends 🇬🇧
As ever, what comes across in this type of footage is just how similar Nationalists and Unionists are. It goes beyond the accent, obviously, it's the working-class background, attitudes, turn of phrase, passion, daily tribulations, etc. and the similarity is thrown into focus more sharply in comparison with the Scots, the English and the Aussie squaddies, and especially the Ruperts. But for the machinations and manipulations of politicians, this could have been sorted out years ago. We were all pawns in a game.
Elite soldiers doing more of a Policemans job, in any other country in the world it would not have worked if at all, believe me!
Give him a gold medal 🥇 where is he
Blown to smithereens.
A corporal Brown 2 para was killed south Armagh 73 R.I.P took the shilling 79 only soldiers understand soldiers
Like John Brown a mouldering in his grave. KIA August 1980 South Armagh - IRA bomb Forkhill.
Pretty near on morons is his reason for armed bullying. What a disgusting thing to come out of the mouth of a man waring the queens uniform. I hope she is proud
As bad as your spelling
I see your spelling is still making us all laugh...thanks 🇬🇧
Wearing...
If Corporal Brown or his family see this film , they should be Very Ashamed of him.. What a monster 🤮
The monsters were the IRA hiding among civilians, cowards the lot of them.
Ireland Will one day become united and hopefully this war will be history. We must forget our colonial ideology
I DONT THINK SO .
Forgive and forget 🇮🇪🤝🇬🇧
Totally agree 👍
Terrible tragedy
Superman
Just looked up and found out that the paratrooper at the start who everybody hated was killed by a roadside bomb on the border in 1980
Long way from Belfast....Brown his name was..I guess you could call that karma..
So you're happy that a young man died then?
You don't know what karma is. Stop posting
@@DrJ-hx7wv well tough shit and goodbye ill say then...
Or what goes around comes around, that's another one..Theres so many things to say but I'll stop posting just for you OK...leave it in the past as they say...
Give Ireland back to the Irish people. Loyalist must move . Our day will come. Tiocfaidh ár lá . One Island, one country
Wot year?
1971
Why were they in my country
First soldier lying through his teeth.
Were you there?
@@dulls8475 Bad Liar
85, 86, 87,88,89 for what? Learned much but such a waste of time
Depravity is as depravity does. The paras can't erase their history.
An Elite unit doesn't do what they did...
Corporal Brown Australian?
Yes , good point .. Know what you mean .. This is from NZ .. Soon as I heard him speak, thought ' He's not a Pom, I think he's a KIwi who's spent a lot of time in Britain ".. Whoever.. Whatever.. One thing that's not in doubt .. He's a hard Bugger !! Hope you are enjoying ' A Troubled Land ' as much as I am . Looking forward to our next Test match.
My god what a load of lies to cover murder
Warrenpoint 1979 was a disaster for the paras
Instead of being on foot
Spaced out they were bunched
Up in lorries!
G.I. Joe lieing his fucking head off in the beginning there....one shot one kill from an smg...then dump a mag into a " gunman" and wound him...he must have been stading 2 inches from the first chap...
Killers
Yes they maybe …but over the years they have stood between us and the forces that would do us harm.
I bet that Corporal Brown voted Brexit.
So what ?
Bet he never made Sargent.
I said same thing.
Google said he died in a bomb in 73.
@@hughwhite7055 I thought The Corporals name was Theobold?
He didn’t vote for or against Brexit as he died in action in South Armagh trying to protect both communities from the terrorist.
..got to laugh at the lass who complained that after she had in effect abandoned her home came back to find her front door damaged after a huge barricade erected outside her home had been removed by the army - when questioned she advised to the camera that nothing inside had been touched.
SF (our heroes?) are actively seeking a United Ireland ... ruled from Brussels?
SF = Sneaky Feckers
He said the people must be happy that they have a British Government. Irony alert everyone
You really have no idea, of what he's talking about, ask an adult to explain it to you.
WHY? What a buffoon you are. can you imagine what any other army other than The British Army would have done to Ireland/NI. They would have levelled the place.
Yeah. We were ecstatic.
Yes but he was saying other governments would have resorted to a terrifying level of bloodshed, while the British government didn’t want that at all!
You are being closed minded and not looking at it from the broader perspective.
Brave men. Royal Regiment of Fusiliers.
Murderers
@@christinamcilwaine350 No No they was Protecting themselves and their mates. Thats self defence. Brave brave men.. British Army. The best.
U smash the house s Up
Love that Corporal, but probably not a candidate for diplomatic liasons... But I bet hes the man you want on your side in a battle. Hope hes well now, and not being persued by the woke court cases going on.
Looking at other comments seems unfortunately he was killed by an IRA bomb
That Paratrooper at the start whos head was grazed by a round..(yeah we believe you) b4 he went all trigger happy with his rifle shooting innocent people dead was blown to smithereens by a 200lb bomb on the "border" in 1980...a long way from belfast..Brown bread he is so i suppose karma is real..his name was Brown by the way...
Brown wasn't the Para with the graze on the temple (caused by a razor I'm sure)
GO ON THE PARA'S
The Divil
Ah, g'wan wit' ye!!!!
Murderers
Cowards paras 18 of thelm blown up by its 8ra 190 British 3000'some odds and still beat the British killers
And the I Ran Away weren't cowards then, they even killed their own
Oohhh Arrrr Up the Ra 🇮🇪..!
Ran Away
Another muppet born after the GFA with zero knowledge of the subject he's chosen to troll.
How do you know those 'facts' Sherlock?