UK - NORTHERN IRELAND: 1972 WORST YEAR YET
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- (5 Jan 1973) STORY
1972 was the worst year of violence in Northern Ireland since the latest spate of trouble broke out in 1967. The inhabitants of Belfast and Londonderry have had to cope with the growing menace of bomb outrages, usually in crowded streets or shops and with little or no warning. We review the major developments of 1972 and assess the chances for peace.
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Lived through most of this conflict. Only the people who lived and suffered in the North of Ireland can testify to the horrors lived on a daily basis. We can't forget. How could we??
@@williamwade3443 The English was in the wrong for sending their army over and murdering innocent Irish civillians.The IRA started because of English rule.England are blamed 100% for the troubles in Northern Ireland
@@williamwade3443 british were in the wrong
@@williamwade3443 Britain were the greater of two evils. Once the ira started bombing civilians it lost its cause. But attacks on British army were justified. And those who let the Bloody Sunday criminals get away with such wanton cruelty should be jailed.
And to think this happend after WW2
@@williamwade3443 the ira were in the wrong,cowards hid behind civilians and took shots at the brits
Born into the Troubles in 1969 (April) Then out by 1983. Even to this day. Whenever I see a parked car, not in the right place and no driver, takes me back to The Bus Station in the East part of Belfast...
What bus station
Oxford Street Bus Station, Belfast. Bloody Friday
What a fuckin Dildo he is..He left Belfast in 1969 and called back a few weeks later ..fuckin Dildo He is..A complete waste of fuckin space .
I was growing up in Belfast at this time and it seemed normal then but I went back with my family more recently and despite the charming people I remembered I was uncomfortable the whole time. More damaged than I thought obviously.
I remember Bloody Friday. I came in to the room when the News was on, and was chased out by my mam: they were shovelling the body parts of those killed in the bus station. God help us all, but it was an awful time, and those are terrible memories.
Body parts?? 😢 I thought they were shot? That’s horrible
@@tonysmith5566 No, it was brutal. And there were many of those. Recently I went to a museum which went through a lot of different things associated with "The Troubles": I couldn't watch it. I was in tears. My nephew was the same. We had to leave. I saw things no one should see, and certainly never a child. Bear in mind, that if all the dead in NI was translated to the US, it would be 500,000. It was a totally shit time, to be honest.
@@Asgard2208 that’s so sad I’m sorry 😞! Do you still live there? I know it got better but you can’t escape the memories especially in areas where you can remember people being killed
@@tonysmith5566 Thank you for your kind remarks. I moved back here in 2021 after an absence since 1984,,,, It is better of course, and yet, it is still the same. I see the kerbstones painted in "patriotic colors"; I see the flags everywhere, and wonder why this shit still continues. It is depressing. How a Catholic or Protestant says their prayers, and why it should be a thing of enmity or hatred is beyond me. Incredibly sad, frankly. I hope for better, and hope that all the improvements since the GFA continue, but these places where bigotry is still the every day measure demoralize me.
@@Asgard2208 yes it’s sad but the British did this when they decided to take over the world
Grew up through all of this. Awful times.
Never trust a politician.
Never trust a politician that tells you how to pray and never trust a minister that tells you how to vote
Irish Republican/Nationalist and Ulster Unionist/Loyalist
I was in Belfast and heard all 20 explosions on bloody Friday. I was 4 yo and can remember diving for the floor when one went off near a friend's house we visited to get out of the main shopping area thinking it was best to stay away from the shops. It was very close. I think it was at the bus depot.
1972, I was a 4 year old back then as well, ! Born 23rd May 1968, ! Grew up in a small village called bushmills,! God Bless pal,!🤝 , have family from both sides,! & I just say my family says that we just want peace, & stay in the UK,! 🤝🇬🇧, have a whisky on me! 🥃 cheers pal,,! 🤝
@Hamish Banish Nope. He's referring to Bloody Friday, a couple years before Bloody Sunday, when the IRA set off 20 or so bombs in something like 90 minutes.
@@pfdrtom Na. Bloody Sunday January 30th 1972 Bloody Friday July 21st 1972.
@@olearyma57 You are correct! Was I thinking of the Battle of Bogside, maybe?
@@pfdrtom If you were you would have been correct. And the urban landscape for both would have been the same. Quick two minute walk from Guildhall in Centre of Derry to William Street/ Rossville Street juunction walk up Rossville Street to Free Derry Cornet. Both Battle of the Bogside and Bloody Sunday lie at your feet.
Was born in Belfast in 72 and lived lived here all my life.
Its too difficult to watch this.
Dark days in the 70s and 80s when every revving engine was a potential attack, and every stranger, cop, or soldier was a potential murderer.
Fuck that
My mum was born omagh in 67 she has told my stories
@@sunnymccoy9327 the British government has always oppressed Irish people
Really feel for anyone brought up in those sad times, remember as a boy watching the news at home in Glasgow, it seemed it was nearly every day there was an atrocity, I also remember at the time checking a map and realising how close this was to my country.
Was born May 23rd 1968, from northern Ireland UK, 🤝🇬🇧 , have family from both sides,! But my family want to stay in the UK, 🤝🇬🇧
Horrible conflict with enormous loss of life on all sides....
The British occupation of Ireland has brought nothing but misery, bloodshed and hatred. This is their colonial legacy
@@James-th7wb 👏🏻❤
@@James-th7wb what the bitter irish refusal to accept foreigners? Okay mate whatever makes you sleep at night you bitter fuck.
@@James-th7wb James I some how Ulster Unionists and Loyalists love him like King Billy who didn't care about them either it's sad he kick thier ancestors out of Lowland of Scotland.
@@James-th7wb
Would it not be more accurate to say it was the dirty terrorist who brought misery, bloodshed and hatred?
My left ear really enjoyed this
It's an old recording mate, no decent digital sound unfortunately.
@@gooner72 I believe Robert was trying to be amusing with a play on words “my left foot.” “my left ear.” Not particular clever
Belfast was a dangerous place in 1972.
@@gooner72 you mean murdered parrass murder bustards
It’s to simulate ur right ear being blown out by a car bomb whilst on the way to the chipper in Derry
Laughed when the American newsreader said basically that the British Army shot 14 Catholic civilians dead but it was all okay and above board because an inquiry cleared the British Army totally leaving out the fact that the inquiry was conducted by the very people accused of murder. Talk about reading from a pro British script. Decades later the British government admitted the civilians were unarmed, were not members of the IRA and had been shot running away and gave an apology for those actions. Sadly much of the mainstream US media followed US foreign policy and so covered for crimes like this.
probably all out getting a pint of milk for their mummy !!!!
@@ronan8834 be a part of a protest and you accept the risk of being a statistic. That goes double when you know there’s a more than even chance the shit will hit the fan.
Who planted the bombs that killed and maimed innocent people?
The IRA hid amongst the locals and fired at British troops from the crowd.
It was a deliberate act to create martyrs.
@@gekolizzard Are you really got ignorant or just eejit with that justification!
Yes that was a very shameful day for our security services.
Yes I accept that they were put into a powder keg situation and were probably very nervous but we should hold our security services to a very high standard.
We shouldn't lower them to the level of the filthy terrorist they were protecting the civilian population against.
So very sad , such a lovely country, such wonderful people. I wish you all peace , no one deserves it more
Would it be realistic in saying the final (war) score was Republicans Nil - Loyalists Nil :: with fewer and fewer attendees as each year passed
Too right man. 27 years and nothing to show for it but a pile of bodies and broken lives. Waste of time.
Given an ardent nationalist would say you're wrong and that victory is closer than ever, and that an ardent loyalist would argue you're wrong and that victory is closer than ever, probably!
@@garchompenthusiast I would dare say most of the younger folks in northern Ireland have moved away from the Extreme rhetoric of either side. That’s why they voted to stay in the EU. If the island is to be united it Has to be something new. The division of Ireland was a disaster not just the north but the south also which was given over to the Catholic Church. Both societies suffered from the occupation of the north.
@@matthew1882 30 years actually your right Irish Republicans and Ulster Loyalists wrecked Northern Ireland.
@@RobertK1993 The British forces had something to do with it too.
Lived through it until you do you will never understand..
No I would think not it was bad
It's same over here in America at this point... Everyday is a new mass shooting. No school, mall or even military base is safe. And people wonder why every American has several guns. I own 13 firearms including AR's with thousands of rounds. I conceal carry everywhere I go... Even if it just around the bend. For fucks sake I almost shoot my own mother a week ago by accident bc of an attempted break in! She arrived about 1min after a crackhead was going around our house trying to get in. She walked through the backdoor without calling or knocking. Thank god I waited a split second before firing. America is a pretty scary place
With 3 Nobel Prizes in Literature, there's an underlying intellectual current that has my admiration as a person from the other side of the world. Their search for peace is difficult & admirable.
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A two peace prizes, John Hume donated him prize to charity
"Bloody Sunday...best recruiting tool for PIRA"
Was thinking the same thing once that happened I'd say alot off boys joined up same for both sides with the Shankill bomb
I agree. The soldiers should have been brought to justice straight after the event.
Allowing them to get away with it makes them no better than the filthy terrorist scum they were tasked with protecting the civilian population against.
We should hold our security services to a very high standard.
@@andrewdouglas1963 u seem to call ira terrorists even tho they sent uns back up north but callin them terrorists is all maggie Thatchers doing they were all young and old lads tryna live an not be walked over yet u call them terrorist sort ursel out mate terrorists board planes an kill civilians on purpose even the army didnt kill on purpose im guessin but doesnt mean one side is right an the other isnt calm ursel with these harsh comments man cos u dk anyone that was ever in it
@@andrewdouglas1963 an funny how the uda still takes protection money off people so u not gonna say sumthin bout them
@@ronan8834
I use the word terrorist according to the proper definition which is
"a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
You seem to be saying that the terrorists were just young lads tryna live and not be walked over.
The terrorists prevented other people from tryna live. They actually prevented thousands of innocent people from living. Killed them.
There's no difference in someone planting a bomb under a car and setting it off to kill people and someone who boards a plane to blow it up.
The one who boards a plane is actually braver but they are both dirty scum terrorist who I have no time for.
The brave men and women who tried to prevent these wicked people from succeeding are the real heroes.
As a 17 year old soldier I was nearly killed in the Aldershot Bomb. 4 weeks later because I could be officially killed by the IRA I was sent to Belfast I arrived the morning after the Abercorn Restaurant Bomb . I then was involved in the Lower Donegal St Bomb evacuating Church St when the bomb went off. 1973 I was involved in 2 other incidents where we lost 7 guys.
Stay in your own country and you’d be safe buddy
@@Irishman0855 Aldershot is in England moron
@@Irishman0855 How far back does this conflict go?
@@tylerkempfer750 a very very long time brother England has been raping Ireland for 800 years we’ve held up armed resistance since
We succeeded with driving them out of 90% of our country just 10 to go it’s never been closer🇮🇪🇮🇪
Remember it well. My father and mother considered relocating to Donegal.
donegal is such a beautiful part of Ireland i lived there for 3 months when i was in my early teens
Hard to imagine it was the Golden anniversary of bloody Sunday. I saw this on television many times when I was growing up.
such a shame, love Ireland and the people.
Northern Ireland is in the United Kingdom. It’s only in Ireland geographically but not politically and in terms of culture it’s definitely separate to the rest of Ireland.
I didnt write this so people could write certain things that might upset other people. What I meant was, that the people in northern Ireland aand the repulic are some of the freindlest people I have met..
@@christopherwicks2744 Thank you for that and my apologies for writing “bring back the Black and Tans” I just wrote that in response to Watsons stupid comment.
@@Valencetheshireman927 They got liquidated by Michael Collins IRA squad poor English Anglicans and Ulster Scots Presbyterians they weren't much fighters too druke and beating up Irish Roman Catholics
@@Valencetheshireman927 Northern Ireland is most worthless part 9f the UK why would the Republic of Ireland want that shit hole they rather have Scotland and her oil
Looking at everything that we know now and the heavy price all communities paid, I wonder what people would do differently if anything if they had the opportunity, or was it nearly impossible to get a similar situation where we are today without having to go through that mare of death & destruction.
Of course what is there today is a subjective perspective.
I think it was inevitable to be honest . Im a protestant from Northern Ireland but i sympathize with what the irish went through at the hands of the British . . Something had to give , but whoever thought it would last so long and that there would be so many victims . As it turned out , violence wasnt the answer !
@@darrenagnew7098 Thanks Darren. Perhaps, if the civil rights movement of '69/70 had not been hijacked by the terrorists (or whatever people call them), things could have gone differently.
It's all history now, but what do I know.
I loved visiting Belfast last year, what a great city!
The IRA had Semtex explosives it was a daily occurrence to here the bangs day and night in Belfast.
From this to one of the best countries in the world. Love working and living here. Hope not to see any of this happening. Hope you's going to sort out problems without the violence.
What, Northern Ireland?
Sad,dark days, never to return. Here's hoping!!!
Aye,me laddie. Agreed
@@The1trueking1966 Teenagers in the 70s had it tough,believe me.I lived thru it,but always had a laugh.
The worst troubles I see here is the atrocious audio mixing
it is on a magnetic tape, no mixing
One Ireland. That's my vote.
absolutly I'm Cornish and think ireland needs to be united..
And expect Catholics and Protestants to live in harmony? 🤔
I am English and have done some research and I also agree Ireland should be United
Ní bheidh síocháin in Éirinn choíche go dtí go mbeidh sí aontaithe
@@kalebj7001 in a modern world yes
Thank you for the reportage
DERRY, LONDON DERRY IS THE INCORRECT COLONIAL NAME
There were no snipers as the UK later admitted.
They probably just contemplated IRA snipers as they were everywhere at the time.
@@ProfileP246 there was none there.
@@Alan-me8bs Armagh Northern Ireland is the UK and it was the main place for IRA snipers 😂
@@ProfileP246 and yet the brits admitted no snipers were seen. Cry harder tan
That Donegal St bomb when false information was given of where it was = same tactic as Omagh bomb massacre.
England in Ireland 🇮🇪
Give me Patience.
Colonialism is disgusting.
Britain in Ireland if you want to be accurate with your comment
There is no colonialism. The majority of the population wants to be part of the UK. Of course there is no shortage of Irish in the US and Canada - by your definition they must be colonists.
What?
Dammit you blew up my mini
Not very nice innit
sad, sad times. God Rest.
Ireland has 32 counties and there is north south east and west
Nope. Northern Ireland has 6 counties and the south has 26. They've never been united as a complete 32.
What does that mean?
I am at a loss on this, patricia
@@armyofninjas9055 I agree there is an area with 6 counties and an area with 26, but no area is known as the south. It is Ireland and Northern Ireland.
You’re right Patricia, Ireland belongs to the Irish ☘️ (give Ireland back to the Irish) period !!
@@aughalough1 very bigoted view, are you going to start building camps?
Today, Ireland is the land of the compliant order followers. Apartheid in Ireland after all that war.
No, it's not.
You currently have Ireland sucking up to the EU and wishing to have its sovereignty fully in the hands of unelected bureaucrats in Brussells. I notice your terrorists, or should I say ''freedom fighters'' are totally silent about that. All that IRA murdering of innocent men, women & children for nothing eh
@@fiddlecastro1453 You have a very unusual understanding of the EU and Ireland with such a silly nonsensical comment like that.The British had PHYSICALLY invaded, subjugated and exploited the island for a very long time before the Irish were able to rid them off most of the island.
The EU is a number of clerical institutions that formulate rules for trade and policies for inter-political negotiations between its member states. Remember, the UK voted to leave and has left. Not one shot was fired.
Again, I think your perception of it all is not only stupid, its quite frankly retarded.
@@LeMerch You have a very poor understanding of how the EU operates, you just need to look at what their failing euro currency has done to Greece, their supporting of a violent overthrow of a democratically elected Ukraine government in 2014 & their undemocratic control over other peoples borders.
The internationally recognised terror group the IRA murdered many innocent men, women & children. The fact you desperately defend them shows the lack of intellect you hold.
@@fiddlecastro1453 You do realise that the IRA existed because nationalists were being badly mistreated in a state they deemed foreign - you can whitewash history and call it a blanket label as many who don't understand the nuances of complex issues such as Northern Ireland do. All you do is show your lack of true understanding there. I don't agree with everything the IRA did, but I certainly agree that a vulnerable and defenceless people have as much right to defend themselves as a state does.
As for your EU waffle, go name me one country, institution or organisation that's perfect? The EU isn't. But it's far better than the alternative.
MAY THE PEACE PROCESS IN NORTHERN IRELAND BE PROTECTED AND ENDURE FOREVERMORE --- Evelyn O'Connor
It’s already been disowned by loyalist terrorist groups. Reasons why are actually very obvious . It’s has already been broken many times by SFIRA & Dublin gov & now British gov . It has been weaponised by SFIRA & old comrades in Dublin . Over Brexit . So much as camera on the border said Dublin gov and peace can’t be guaranteed!! Wow that’s a threat . Rendering GFA in eyes of loyalist/ ulster seperatist as null and void
Northern Ireland is irish not Britain
@@JohnSmith-vh8wv they don't care .
@@tempesttempest769 All the killing and violence, and the IRA achieved a big fat nothing in the end.
@@JohnSmith-vh8wv I don't care whether it is or not, Peace is what is important here. Not trialist turf wars.
Justice for the victims of Bloody Sunday 🇮🇪☘️💚
Free Derry
Looks like the Donegall Road?
52 years ago today😭😭
1/30/1972
I never under stood this killing of children and old ladies. I guess im not hip.
Yeah that's it, you're not hip.
I hope we have learnt from the troubles and people from different backgrounds can try to coexist and not repeat this historical experience. Everyone were affected growing up. I had people close to myself murdered but I live for the present and not the past. People need to forgive others to heal themselves.
It will never happen, this violence has been going on for a long time
Too right. Life exists in the now, not the moments before.
@Plutarch shut it lib, honor is everything.
Paramilitaries are basically nothing but local criminals and thugs nowadays, it would take something quite drastic for it to kick off again, most just want to live their lives in peace. But there is a few republican and loyalist areas that just breed pure hatred and will take several generations to weed out the nonsense they are taught
8:59 and 9:20 Whatever happened to shop awnings? They were really classy and you dont see them now.
It was backlash for Bloody Sunday, Today was the 50th anniversary. I live right beside the monument right next to Free Derry Corner 🇮🇪
Yea seen them march through where I was
I was at rath lin drive
Got yourselves a good mayor today. My cousin's wife. When these videos were made you couldn't even get a job as a cleaner in the Guildhall if you were Catholic.
An American reading from a british prepared script
Thats about it in a nutshell.
@@olearyma57 arse,,,,!
A script,, lol,, really,, pictures see better than a script,,, dumb ass,, ! The ira has killed more people than the army,,,! Even killed there own people,,!, don't get me wrong,, the uda , have dun the same,,
@@gremlinuk1968 The narrative has moved on a lot since 5th January 1973 when this piece was composed. Nowadays it would be laughed at by any genuine observer/ historian of the troubles. Strange how those of us there in the cockpit of the troubles in time and place are called 'dumbass' by people removed by fifty years and how many km ?. from what they pass judgement on.
@@gremlinuk1968 Pictures - ink squirted onto paper, pixels switched on/ off on a screen are absolutely NOT reality. He who controls the ink gun or the pixel generator controls the reality system of the dumb recipient. My friend you display every manifestation of that imbecile and controlled section of society - unique to Britain - that is full of certainty about things they have not witnessed.
Definitely leaned hard on British perceptions for this piece. History says different
History still sees the IRA as Terrorists who killed civilians.
@@hiddendragon415 Really I guess it depends on who telling the history.
I think it’s a little bit more of a nuanced conversation. If you’re living in what’s left of Great Britain yeah the terrorist not so much in other places like in the US or in Ireland
@@jgg59 By definition they were terrorists "a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.". That said I can see they were also seen as freedom fighters by some and personally I believed and still do in a United Ireland.
@@hiddendragon415 So I guess the British soldiers were also considered terrorist since they murdered numerous civilians
@@jgg59 Heat of the moment unplanned acts can't be compared to cold calculated planting of bombs targeting civilians to push a political objective. By definition the IRA became terrorists when they went beyond targeting British soldiers and targeted civilians.
I remember the biggest loss of life in the troubles, Dublin and Monaghan.
These attacks by loyalist terrorism are forgotten?
I suppose coming from the South it hit home.
No United Ireland 🇮🇪 in the good Friday agreement the irish people can wait another 100 years god bless Ireland 🇮🇪
I fixed the description for you: "The inhabitants of Belfast and Londonderry have had to cope with the growing menace of bomb outrages" and occupation by unwanted Brit armed forces, as well as the lack of representation in government.
Fixed it for you the ira killed more catholics than the British army did.
U mean derry. Or free derry
If only Ulster Scots/Protestants had let Irish Roman Catholic have civil and religious liberty the Provisional IRA wouldn't have had so much support.
If the Irish would just accept the protestants in Ireland then the British army wouldn't have had to put them in their place.
@@cg2617 the UVF was a literal club created to specifically attack and kill nationalists, it did not even say it wasn't from the beginning. They were western Nazi's.
@@cg2617 @@cg2617 if that's how you think it went down you're an idiot and havnt looked into the troubles at all. The UVF/ Protestants were murdering catholics years before the IRA came to be. The provisional IRA came to be because the Protestants were murdering and beating them in broad daylight in the streets. Most of the deaths in the troubles were the Protestant terrorist and royal simps killing Catholic civilians.
@@JSpark135 did i say that none of that happened or that I supported it? No so fuck off thanks.
@@JSpark135 Jordan please remember that the IRA killed more catholics than loyalists
Seeing the locations where these savage events took place transports me back to Derry where I grew up. I recognized places and people. I remember the terrible things that happened at different places but also the carefree days of childhood in a very different time.
Yet is the key word here.
Taking liquid during a hunger strike is not breaking the fast, it would have been water and possibly salt
No it wasn't,Macstiofain was ousted from the Republican movement because he broke his strike,it was probably glucose he took in his water,although im not 100% sure.
@@jameslarkin8494 yes but hunger strike is about food it wouldn't last long without water
The human body will only last a week without water.. 🇮🇪🇵🇸
@@cbjgdicad1 I know that,you'ld be lucky to last 13 days on a hunger and thirst protest,what i'm getting at is MacStiofan broke his hunger strike by adding glucose to his water,hunger strikers have to drink water on a large scale.MacStiofan wasn't willing to die,hence the additives to his water intake.Sean O'Callaghan went on a hunger and thirst strike,he went 13 days and called it off,at the brink of death.
@@Irishmush Aah lad you've lost me on that statement..
Jaysus it sure sounded dreadful.
I'd say 1972 was the worst year for the North.
God bless some poor people especially Catholics.
I was born 18 years after that year.
Some people in the North went completely mad.
@Connor O'Sullivan I'm sure they did.
Especially Catholics? Did their deaths matter more?
Why especially Catholics.
Had to laugh @16:23 and @16:33 even the dogs were rioting lol
British hands everywhere.
Unk!
All throughout this video my right ear felt like a disowned child being thrown scraps occasionally to survive on. Gawd damn.
Thought I was being visited by aliens but only in my right ear
Freedom is on our side. Our day will come
Don't perpetuate violence
I grew up with the troubles
Were is Londonderry ! As far as I know London is in the UK and Derry is in ulster ireland 🇮🇪.
Its Derry, not Londonderry
Derry / Londonderry is in Ulster Northern Ireland 👌
@@robturnbull29 I still don't get it , From what I can make out the local people in Ireland Name the city Derry and at some point in time the occupiers decided to put London in front of Derry to make up a name that made them feel better ! I think it would be a good idea to call London ,, Derrylondon,, or let's say
DublinBrighton as the Irish just missed taking the head of the sake in that city.
And there is an H in where.
Londonderry. No such place exists.
I have been alive for 50 years and in all my years alive I have NEVER known of this Londonderry, of which I hear Brits and uneducated Americans speak. I know of the Eternal City of Resistance known as DERRY but I am clueless as to this Londonderry. Free the 6. Brits out now 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Make Londonderry Irish and it’ll be ‘al-Derry’ filled with mosques in just a few years, dumbass.
Удивительно почему СССР не поддержал ирландцев, ведь это отличный случай разколошматить на части Великобританию. В отместку за прошлое так сказать.
Lol its rumoured they did. Russian large machine guns were used in the conflict as well as aks.
Only a few ways they can make it to the country
Why was the uk even there
Long story
9:17 can anyone else see Sean Lock in the middle of the crowd just walk on by xD
There was a few Sean Lock lookalikes in that crowd tbf xD
Sean Lock's mother was from County Armagh
Crazy crazy times
Holy words, Poland is still fighting
Poland is fighting? From when?
@@ctra1ns read it you will find out
@@waekbolek2110 read what sir?
@@ctra1ns books are best to read books
@@ctra1ns Since 2015. With socialist, national bastards that are in charge
Very enjoyable. Thanks for uploading
Enjoyable? Are you crazy? You're obviously not Irish.
Not sure enjoyable is the right word mate...
It’s weird thinking this was how the country (that I live in) has been a massive playground for the IRA, I feel so bad for all the people who were alive in this mess ;-;
Enjoyable, in what way?
@@ApexOrSomething I think the British army and the ruc had the most fun.
All of this came to reality for me when a family member told me that my great grandfather emigrated after the British took our family farm in Armagh.
Where???!
It's Armagh..and what century are you referring to..
@@johnnyjumpup859 Early 1900s
When did this happen ? Which British ? How & why ? Lots of Protestants got their farms taken & loved ones murdered in cold blood by SFIRA
So your family member told you that the British come took your farm....when? Oh just while we are on the wagon of virtue signalling, the Vikings took my ancestor's land, who do i blame? someone is to blame, its makes no difference that we are generations removed....someone is to blame, i am angry and i have to blame someone for something that may or may not have happened long long before i was born
We all know the history up until partition. The Catholic minority in the new Northern Irish state kept their heads down and accepted their fate for the most part with the exception of a small border campaign. The Protestant majority made sure Catholics new who was in charge, Protestant's controlled every aspect of the Northern Irish state politically and economically through gerrymandering of local councils the only thing protestants dished out to the Catholic community was intergenerational poverty and hopelessness . Then in the mid-to-late 1960s Catholics inspired by the civil rights marches in the United States started to protest and and demand UK civil rights "not a united Ireland". These protests started off small and met very little resistance up until one man with a fire in his belly a Bible in his hand and a deep mistrust of Catholics, demanded protests be met with an iron fist. Ian Paisley done more to stoke up Protestant missguided fears of a united Ireland, backward and an under the foot of Rome. Protests became more violent, loyalist sectarian attacks on Catholic communities became more frequent including ethnic cleansing. The then prime minister of Northern Ireland Terence O'Neill was willing to meet with Catholic communities and give concessions to stop Ulster from sliding over the edge. Ian Paisley put a stop to that, causing the collapse of the government and a election in which O'Neill had to resign.The London government naive and ignorant of Ulster, sent in the British army to protect Catholic communities from loyalist gangs unfortunately the British army got their orders from stormont and not London so overtime the Protestant control Stormont Government used the British army to put down any civil rights protests leading to bloody Sunday and the catastrophic trauma felt by the Catholic communities led to single biggest recruiting drive and propaganda win for the newly formed provisional IRA. For the next few years Northern Ireland was on the verge of civil war in which hundreds of people lost their lives in sectarian violence. In 1973 and effort was made to bring an end to the nightmare with the signing of the sunningdale agreement. Ian Paisley using his militia threats of violence and intimidation against his own Protestant community brought a end to the power-sharing government and cross border council, calling for a general strike the lasted for months. The nightmare of sectarian violence continued in Northern Ireland for the next 25 years causing the deaths of thousands of people up until the signing of the good Friday agreement 1997 which the IRAs campaign came to a end . Ian Paisley was once again on the outside trying to stop catholics and Protestant's from forming a power sharing Government. The very same agreement that was signed in 1973, he succeeded then But not this time. Ian Paisley rot in hell!! Now brexit loyalists and unionists threaten peace agreement again.
Nailed it lad dk why protestants were so scared of United Ireland the same reason we have now got both communites with hate but it started with the loyalists being hyped by Ian just like the UK news to scare u about Corona virus
I can see where you are coming from but I think you are more than a tad one-sided in your opinions. It is just way too simplistic and wrong to say "... the only thing protestants dished out to the Catholic community was intergenerational poverty and hopelessness". And trying to pin the blame for the troubles on Ian Paisley is just not right, there were other much more sinister actors who actually killed and mutilated many innocents. But you completely lost me when you accuse loyalists and unionists of 'threatening the peace process again' when that process is actually destroyed by the NI Protocol which loyalists and unionists oppose.
@@asanulsterman1025 If there is one person that has the most blame for the troubles, it is Ian Paisley.
Ian Paisley ordered the planting of the first bombs (and framed and blamed what was until then a non functional IRA. He blew up the electrical grid and water supply to Belfast and blamed the IRA).
Ian Paisley helped create the first paramilitary (before there were Provos).
Ian Paisley convinced the first sectarian assassins to commit their acts (bombings and shootings for simply being Catholic).
Ian Paisley led the first brutal attacks on unarmed and peaceful and nonsectarian civil rights marchers.
Ian Paisley led the movement to overthrow any compromise with the civil rights movement.
Ian Paisley brought down any possibility of UUP compromise.
Ian Paisley created the strikes.
Ian Paisley rallied the Unionists by calling the Catholics 1) the anti christs 2) the barbarians 3) the Catholics want your house and job.
Ian Paisley did everything he could to create The Troubles. Every one of his actions and speeches were intentionally done to create a civil war.
Every other major player was looking towards a peaceful compromise (realistic or not). Every other major player had a goal that was not civil war (realistic or not).
Only Ian Paisley received exactly what he wanted to create.
Review the events, and the order of events and who did what. And Ian Paisley is the one person that prevented (intentionally) a gradual compromise to the civil rights disturbances that morphed into 30 years of violence.
@@mikeburke7053 Oh my what bitter bigoted opinions you have. Nothing you have said is actually true but don't let that stand in the way of your vitriol. If you ask me the one person most to blame for the troubles I would say Bernadette Devlin, Charles Haughey and Neil Blaney. Bernadette Devlin took the nascent civil rights movement onto the new path of trying to destroy Stormont in furtherance of her Irish republican goals. The Dail TD's helped to get the dormant IRA up and going again by giving it political cover and money. In comparison Ian Paisley's role, in responding to orchestrated events, was reactionary and secondary.
@@asanulsterman1025 A timeline cannot be bitter nor bigoted. It also seems you cannot count to one.
1966 April - Paisley creates UPV. This is the first paramilitary force of Troubles.
1966 May - UVF murders the first victims of Troubles. One shooter later repents and wishes he never listened to Paisley.
1966 May UVF declares war on a non functional nor active IRA
1968 Paisley leads multiple violent attacks on peaceful protesters
1969 April - Paisley orders and pays for bombs to blow up water and electrical systems in false flag to blame a nonfunctional IRA.
Ian paisley fought the UUP and any attempt to compromise. Ian Paisley is literally directly responsible for all the initial violence.
Almost everything that everybody did was in response to Paisley, with the exception of the initial civil rights movement. It was paisley that destroyed stormont, not Devlin.
Paisley was not reactionary nor secondary. Everything he did was intended to cause violence. And he succeeded. Look at the timeline. The civil rights movement was peaceful until paisley led men to use violence against them.
This is fairly decent primary evidence, seems a tad biased but what irks me more is how things are out of order. For instance, stating about clearing out the no-go zones, which occurred with Operation Motorman on 31st July, and then going back to the beginning of June.
It's not Londonderry county Derry eiri
The abercorn bombing was carried out by the two sisters who lost limbs they brought it in and it exploded prematurely that's why they were so badly injured
@Plutarch because it was under the table they were sitting at and people saw them carry it in I thought everyone knew that
@Plutarch yes you're right they were terrible times I was 17 when the troubles started I lost very good friends at the lamon bombing I was going with them but my youngest child was ill and I didn't want to leave him so I told my friends I wouldn't go so I'm here today because of that sad sad days
@The Richest Man In Babylon Unrelated to the bombing, the Abercorn featured in a sectarian attack in July 1972, when Michael McGuigan, a Catholic working in the bar, was abducted by loyalist paramilitaries, shot and left for dead, but survived. He had been dating a Protestant waitress who also worked in the Abercorn, and this had provoked the loyalist group to carry out the attack.
The Abercorn was demolished in 2007.
Blimey is this documentary out-of date! Especially regarding those poor 13 people shot by British troops.
But useful in its own way as it showed how British people thought was true at the time. Judging by the announcer saying 5 years later from 1972, this must be 1977. This is the environment that eventually voted in Margaret Thatcher.
It's good to understand why people did, and this is useful in understanding why.
In later years the British government admitted that everyone shot was unarmed and some of them were shot in the back as they ran to this day nearly 50 years later not a single soldier has been prosecuted for bloody Sunday a war crime against civilians
Good contextual point with Thatcher.
@@ConnollyStationChicago1936 thank you! 😊
@@Regnbuesolv bloody Sunday killed 13 civilians, the IRA killed around 1,000. The RUC in total killed 28 civilians, the real IRA killed more in 1 day in Omagh. The people killed by the British army and police were less likely to be civilians than by the Irish Republican army. The IRA killed more catholic civilians than the police and armed forces
50 years ago TODAY! 01/30/2022
Audio's really unbalanced. Can't listen via headphones.
I never quite understood what the fighting was about. Was it the people of Ireland against British rule, or Ireland's Catholics against Ireland's Protestants? Thanks
Neither really. The Prots were actually mostly Scots that were given land holdings in Ireland by the Brits in the 1600s, for supporting them against the Highland Clans. Braveheart times, never got over it, the taigs. They got the whole country but 6 counties and they can't leave it alone. ✋🏻 Salute the Red Hand Commando, Johnny Adair should be Knighted.
A united Ireland noting to do with religion.
@@jamesdaly7664 excuse my ignorance, so it's more about Ireland wanting their independence from England? Is this what caused Ireland to split in two? Thanks
@@davidneumann5175 The British knew Ulster was the strongholds of Irish nationalism. They wanted to break the Irish and separate them from their culture and land
@@Johnny53kgb-nsa Believe me your best not knowing.
"Shoot back in SELF-DEFENSE" ??? Good one.
@Plutarch Except the Paras were not shot at during Bloody Sunday, they shot 13 unarmed civilians dead, many were shot in the back when fleeing the British Massacre.
What a fucking mess.😢
Iam British let them have Thier land it is not ours
It would be great if they muted comments on subjects like this, as everyone has a viewpoint & bitching doesn’t really help.
Agree... It's like Marmite, you're either on one side or the other. Life's too short if you're watching this... go out and have some fun. These dark days are long over thankfully.
Don't see how it's bitchin when it ruined a whole generation fuck the English empire is all we have to say dirty rotten scum Makin every nation they reach speak English everyone has a view of this subject an there wrong this country deserves freedom again then we have people like you tryna forget what went on here just like the rest of england
then don't comment...
In Britain the passive retribution attacks role models like Henry Blogg & his family. Deplorable, disgraceful passive strategic retribution.
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When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics, ever since…
A vintage year
Amen
Yeah, might not want to mess with what should be *FREE* Ireland.
You clearly don't have a clue about the situation. Ireland, or to give it its full name, the Republic of Ireland, IS free. It is a separate sovereign country from Britain, with its capital being Dublin. You are, I suggest, talking about Northern Ireland, which is a part of the United Kingdom. It is not a part of the UK through force, but because the majority Protestant population voted to remain a part of Britain. The Catholic minority in NI were not happy about the ballot result and tried to change matters using violence. The British Army was deployed in NI in 1969 to try to keep the Protestant and Catholic paramilitary groups apart. Years of attacks and killings by both groups followed, including IRA bombings on the British mainland. Eventually, a peace accord was signed by Britain and the Protestant and Catholic paramilitaries, and British troops were withdrawn from NI in 1994. So please explain to me what you mean by FREE Ireland.
@@lorddaver5729 I've spent decades on the subject including in country. I suggest you do the same.
@@leesweather9894 What I told you is factually correct. What exactly do you disagree with?
@@lorddaver5729Northern IRELAND (which is in Ireland) was created to guarantee a unionist majority by undemocratically gerrymandering political boundaries and councils. Population density around Belfast is the only place unionists ever made a majority. Derry, along with most of Northern Ireland's territory, does and always has had an Irish nationalist majority. If unionists could threaten violence with the UVF to carve out an artificial majority in Ireland, then the Provisional IRA could use legitimate violence to fight for independence in thee regions of northern Ireland where they were the majority. This is the exact same thing. Is there a double standard that I'm unfamiliar with.
So yeah, free Ireland 32. Brits out to fuck.
The people on both sides of the border are as free as they want to be. There's still work to be done but name me a place in the civilised world where that's _not the case._
But don't listen to me. In fact forget I wrote anything. You're all as likely as not to call me a Plastic Paddy or something.
I served over there several times in late 70s 80s I hated it glad to leave the army
What did you hate the most ?
Probably all the killing,raping torturing the most.
I feel bad for you guys being sent over to be targets , yous were only kids at the time really
Useful idiot fodder.
@@fergspan5727 Being shot at I would imagine...
26+6=1 💪
And to think the army was sent to Protect the Catholic community from the other side,,, didn't go very well
So they say, bit of a coincidence that they only targeted the IRA. if the catholic community was under threat it surely wasn't from the IRA something doesn't add up 😂 UDA/UVF gangs running these streets doing as they please with the help of the Brits.
And I think this is about Bloody Sunday
Republic of Eire????
Éire is irish for ireland
@@purehyper164 Do you think im fecken daft or what???? Im lrish but theres no such thing as th Republic of Eire,there's the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland, but no Republic or Eire.No wonder the call you shitass more like shit for brains
Britain has done this to many countries and have caused issues which last to this day.
Look at Palestine, South Africa, Cashmere, Iraq, Afghanistan...
@@thornil2231 Do Jews not deserve their own country back? Which Religion and country first came to India to rule over them, because it wasn't the British and the British definitely haven't made the Chinese imperialistic over Kashmir.
Now let's talk about how many lives has communism cost you filth.
@@jackster2568 What do you mean "country back"? Since when did they have that country?
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You can't mix oil and water.
its derry ya muppet!
Doire 🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮
The British have to leave.
Perhaps all the refugees in West Central Scotland will be able to go home at last.
Only heard about this from a tom Clancy book.
British soldiers being charged and tried in a British court.. joke🇮🇪🇵🇸
Murders by the state
What’s the flag of Palestine got to do with it 🤷♂️
@@09weenic to show my support
for wat Israel is doing to them.
Israel is murdering Palestinian s and have them locked in the biggest refugee's camp in the world ...fact
The English army was The most dirtiest paramilitary in the north of Ireland. All the British soldiers terrorists should be Procecuted.
Free ireland
Free Irish
Irish play chess not checkers
Our long wait for our freedom is coming
And you forgot to mention that the famine is over its time to go home
Like the Irish have the intelligence to play chess.
Stop perpetuating hostility
Good turn out!!