Hey Josh,Glen from Tropical Australia. Been loving the "preacher's narrative ". You're taking this to a new level. I always end up having a chuckle over your comments. Comments that display a deep level of understanding combined with a level of humour that really cracks me up. Keep it up mate.superb work.
Once again- An absolute attention grabbing "story" of this amazing country at its very beginnings. ❤ I was born in Hobbs, New Mexico and lived in Austin, Lubbock, and Plains, Texas for most of my upbringing years- My father was born and died in Plains, Texas- which is about 70 miles south of Lubbock, Texas. I grew up on the Northshore of Massachusetts though(only about 20 miles north east of Boston, Massachusetts) The culture shock alone between these two completely different places was by itself mind boggling- but the history was also just as enthralling. (As I have mentioned before- American History is my ultimate favorite subject in history) 😊 You are definitely my ultimate favorite "story" fact-teller on youtube. Again, I thank you for the hard work you must pour into your content. You're quickly becoming my "go-to" favorite sub. ❤😊 Thank you- once more!
I'm thoroughly enjoying this series. Growing up, I thought Billy was just a homicidal maniac. In my mind, he had no rhyme or reason for what he did. I remember watching the Young Guns movies when they first came out and thinking that everything about the movies was BS, albeit entertaining. Then I did some research and read a couple books on The Kid. I don't stand in defense of what he did, but I understand how someone could react that way given the circumstances and the political environment. I haven't watched anything besides this series (minus the final episode) and the Bill Longley story, but so far your channel is my new go to for background listening while I work or drive.
@@ryandillingsworth3540 I don't think I have. I didn't become a John Wayne fan until later in life and I haven't worked my way through his entire library. I was firmly on team Eastwood growing up. The Shootist, True Grit and The Cowboys were pretty much the only John Way movies I liked for most of my life.
good stuff dude ..as always..you bring us there, better then any tv show, movie etc.over the years my kids would ask me if i could back in time where would i go?......always told them i wish i as a fly on the wall of the saloons of the old west.
Great show Mr Josh! There may not be a Bon Jovi song in the back ground all the time, but it still sounds like The Kid really lived the hell out of his time here. thank you. sign me up for the news letter!!
Wrong movie bud, the quote was Here lies Lester Moore, 4 slugs from a .44, no Les no more. It came from a real tombstone in Tombstone so they used it in the movie Tombstone
Yea sir, a new episode! Another great one as usual.. and y’all Texans are a close second to us Georgia boys lol!! Just picking I like Texans, they have had my back in scrapes when locals didn’t. Just sayin
I like how close the movies were..not totally accurate, but close. I also like in Young Guns 2 they the movie opens with a possible elderly Billy the Kid. I like how they kept what really happened to him a mystery
What I wouldn't give to have a time machine and see the kid, I bet though he wouldn't be like you imagine, you'd probably look at him and say to yourself " that's him?!, That boy ??"
Thank you josh. Great podcast. I have been down this Rabbit Hole of did people especially civilians historically carry 5 versus 6 in a Single Action Army. Joe grant was always one of the biggest stories cited that people did carry five not six in the colt SAA at this time period. i was unaware of him only having 3 Rounds. I was always told billy and everyone carried 5 and billy knowing and seeing joe grant had 5 loaded. Billy rotated the cylinder so that when cocked it would fall on the empty chamber. On the whole 5 verses 6 subject .i need to make a video on my findings. Everything i have found has me convinced that They Carried six and later on the military during inspections started caring 5. Due to the fear of negligent discharges while putting the gun on safe. Especially during inspection. Putting the hammer in a safety Notch required you to fully cock the hammer then pull the trigger. and ride the hammer forward with your thumb. If your thumb slipped....boom. so far all the evidence shows they only loaded five during inspection and parades. In the field carried 6.
Let me know what you find out! I'm curious too! My source here is Robert Utley and it appears he used The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid with a disclaimer that it "has all the marks of another Upham yarn" but then notes that the Upham version is confirmed by an interview of William Chisum, son of James Chisum who was a witness. I haven't read that interview yet so I'm not sure if the three rounds is mentioned in both.
@@WildWestExtravaganza thanks for the extra info. i will let you know what i find out. I have hurd other stories of people getting caught with 2 or 3 rounds in there guns. For the average person ammo back then was very expensive. Most people bought bullets by the round. people would figure they would never need more then the six the gun would hold. many people in the 1880s would have grown up with single-shot pistols or single-shot rifles. So 6 shots to them would be like us having 15 today. if they have to shoot a animal or coyote. next time they would go into town they would just buy enough ammo to refill a gun. Its possible that's what happened with Joe Grant. He just may have not had the chance to buy the ammo he had used earlier.
Another great video Josh. I was born in Texas myself but have spent most of my life in Oklahoma. Wonder why Paulita Maxwell never admitted being Billy the Kid's girl, read one article that after he was arrested at Stinking Springs she came to see him in jail and the guards had to pry them apart was the words the man reading the documentary used. Course I have read claims that he fathered a couple children with other women also, though I don't know the names of the women.
Josh u ever looked in to the kgc? If they did meet I would say it was because that were bought members of the kgs. And billy was set up to take down the Santa Fe ring. Idk but it would make a good story
@@WildWestExtravaganza o man ur going need a year or two to get to the bottom of it. I got some books I can recommend but ya. It's a deep rabbit hole. To sum it up kgc was stared around the civil war. and was a bunch of outlaws hiding money for a second civil war people like the James and buch and Sundance just to name some house hold names. I think black jack k. Might have been kgc too. Seems like train robbery was big on there list. Some of the gold and guns have been found there's a code kinda like free mansions and if u can brake it u can find hiding spots from south America to north Carolina.
Did Billy bonny deserve his notoriety as im not sure, he's not in the same league as Frank and jessie james, was it as doc said in young guns "this country seriously needs a hero" in other words it came from dime novels, more great work well done.
Didn't Marty Robbins sing texas red? Marty Stuart sang hillbilly rock 😆 and it was an Arizona ranger that took Texas red. So Arizonans must shoot better than Texans lol
I have never heard anyone make this claim until 2 days ago...I've now heard it at least half a dozen times. If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this information? A lot of people who knew the Kid wrote a lot about him and I've never seen anything indicating him missing a finger. To me it simply looks like his finger is curved as he holds the rifle.
Also the indian agency would have been paranoid and trigger happy due to being raided by texans and the murfe qnd other groups constantly before billy and them guys ever showed up .
I now know to a 100% certainty that brushy bill roberts was billy the kid when he was young . Not a shadow of doubt in my mind . With all due respect .
How the hell does this YT channel not have more followers? Josh does an incredible job telling the tales of this genre. Dude is best in class.
That's what I'm saying!
I agree in my defense i have just found this channel a few weeks ago and cant get enough also now following the podcast on Apple Podcasts
@@ikeyschultz4969 yep he is great
@@WildWestExtravaganza I don't know what your saying but you are great , and entertaining.
These episodes have been among your best work.
Thanks
Enjoying this deep dive into the legendary figure
Sounds like Billy was a 'locator of horses that were not yet lost'. 😂
Absolutely
Not all heroes wear capes. Lmao!
LOL !! IT comes so natural for him.
He was being proactive
Hey Josh,Glen from Tropical Australia. Been loving the "preacher's narrative ". You're taking this to a new level. I always end up having a chuckle over your comments. Comments that display a deep level of understanding combined with a level of humour that really cracks me up. Keep it up mate.superb work.
Thanks Glen!
Just started listening about a month ago at work it’s about I listen to you are the man keep up the great work!
Wow thanks for listening
This is so good!! The quality of the text, the quality of narrator voice. Thank you no cheezy reenactments!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm really digging this series. Thanks.
Once again- An absolute attention grabbing "story" of this amazing country at its very beginnings. ❤
I was born in Hobbs, New Mexico and lived in Austin, Lubbock, and Plains, Texas for most of my upbringing years- My father was born and died in Plains, Texas- which is about 70 miles south of Lubbock, Texas. I grew up on the Northshore of Massachusetts though(only about 20 miles north east of Boston, Massachusetts) The culture shock alone between these two completely different places was by itself mind boggling- but the history was also just as enthralling. (As I have mentioned before- American History is my ultimate favorite subject in history) 😊 You are definitely my ultimate favorite "story" fact-teller on youtube. Again, I thank you for the hard work you must pour into your content. You're quickly becoming my "go-to" favorite sub. ❤😊 Thank you- once more!
Wow, thank you
Every time someone from Texas brags about big, Alaskans smirk.
Billy has the best nickname. Its rolls. This really helps.
Thanks for this TREAT Josh...Love W.W.E. and this series in particular...Keep up the GREAT work!!!
More to come!
Brownsville Texas here
Fantastic!, Josh brings these stories to life like no other!😎
Glad you like them!
I'm thoroughly enjoying this series. Growing up, I thought Billy was just a homicidal maniac. In my mind, he had no rhyme or reason for what he did. I remember watching the Young Guns movies when they first came out and thinking that everything about the movies was BS, albeit entertaining. Then I did some research and read a couple books on The Kid. I don't stand in defense of what he did, but I understand how someone could react that way given the circumstances and the political environment.
I haven't watched anything besides this series (minus the final episode) and the Bill Longley story, but so far your channel is my new go to for background listening while I work or drive.
Thank you!!!
ever see the movie 'Chisum' with John Wayne etc ?
@@ryandillingsworth3540 I don't think I have. I didn't become a John Wayne fan until later in life and I haven't worked my way through his entire library.
I was firmly on team Eastwood growing up. The Shootist, True Grit and The Cowboys were pretty much the only John Way movies I liked for most of my life.
Thanks!
Thank YOU, Steve
Great job Dude!
“Scars? I got scars…”
Awesome job.
This was GREAT!
Thank you
Excellent!
Superb, as always.
Thank you
I can out lie,outshoot,and outf---any Texan!😠🤣
good stuff dude ..as always..you bring us there, better then any tv show, movie etc.over the years my kids would ask me if i could back in time where would i go?......always told them i wish i as a fly on the wall of the saloons of the old west.
🤠🐎Hell yeah! 🤠 🐎
Hey Misty...Glad to see you here...such a good series. Peace and Blessings My Friend!
Hi Chip, nice to see you too! 🤠 I remember when it used to be Bloody Beaver podcast lol 😂 did I tell you about Wyatt Flores🎶? 🎸☮️🍄
Perfect as usual
Glad you think so!
love your channel bro
Thank you!
brb, going over to the Beaver Saloon. I'm a bit... thirsty.
Hahaha! Billy Bonnie lived a lot longer than 3 years...
Been waiting on this!
Keep up the great work 🤠👉
Thanks, I'm trying!
Yay it's Yosh.
Great show Mr Josh! There may not be a Bon Jovi song in the back ground all the time, but it still sounds like The Kid really lived the hell out of his time here. thank you. sign me up for the news letter!!
Brian Burns sang a Texas version of I've Been Everywhere. Listen to it.
I don't drink no more -- but I don't drink no less... lol no les no moore... lol
Wrong movie bud, the quote was Here lies Lester Moore, 4 slugs from a .44, no Les no more. It came from a real tombstone in Tombstone so they used it in the movie Tombstone
Yea sir, a new episode! Another great one as usual.. and y’all Texans are a close second to us Georgia boys lol!! Just picking I like Texans, they have had my back in scrapes when locals didn’t. Just sayin
Josh, about TEXAS I wasn't born here, but I am as TEXAS as it is possible. I may have been born here in another life anyway, I LOVE TEXAS!!!
Regulators!
Mount up
They loved to buy horses and not questions ask !! No even later.
I like how close the movies were..not totally accurate, but close. I also like in Young Guns 2 they the movie opens with a possible elderly Billy the Kid. I like how they kept what really happened to him a mystery
Congratulations on keeping off the bottle I'm going on 10 months now.
Congrats!
Hit 3 years January...keep going life is much better without it
@@soulrebel6309 i agree
Somebody like Sergio Leone could make another Billy the Kid movie. I'd go.
What I wouldn't give to have a time machine and see the kid, I bet though he wouldn't be like you imagine, you'd probably look at him and say to yourself " that's him?!, That boy ??"
I'd probably look at him and then make sure my wallet is secure
Josh, I heard you say you don't drank no more,🤔 question is are you drankin any less?🤠
Thank you josh. Great podcast. I have been down this Rabbit Hole of did people especially civilians historically carry 5 versus 6 in a Single Action Army. Joe grant was always one of the biggest stories cited that people did carry five not six in the colt SAA at this time period. i was unaware of him only having 3 Rounds. I was always told billy and everyone carried 5 and billy knowing and seeing joe grant had 5 loaded. Billy rotated the cylinder so that when cocked it would fall on the empty chamber. On the whole 5 verses 6 subject .i need to make a video on my findings. Everything i have found has me convinced that They Carried six and later on the military during inspections started caring 5. Due to the fear of negligent discharges while putting the gun on safe. Especially during inspection. Putting the hammer in a safety Notch required you to fully cock the hammer then pull the trigger. and ride the hammer forward with your thumb. If your thumb slipped....boom. so far all the evidence shows they only loaded five during inspection and parades. In the field carried 6.
Let me know what you find out! I'm curious too! My source here is Robert Utley and it appears he used The Authentic Life of Billy the Kid with a disclaimer that it "has all the marks of another Upham yarn" but then notes that the Upham version is confirmed by an interview of William Chisum, son of James Chisum who was a witness. I haven't read that interview yet so I'm not sure if the three rounds is mentioned in both.
@@WildWestExtravaganza thanks for the extra info. i will let you know what i find out. I have hurd other stories of people getting caught with 2 or 3 rounds in there guns. For the average person ammo back then was very expensive. Most people bought bullets by the round. people would figure they would never need more then the six the gun would hold. many people in the 1880s would have grown up with single-shot pistols or single-shot rifles. So 6 shots to them would be like us having 15 today. if they have to shoot a animal or coyote. next time they would go into town they would just buy enough ammo to refill a gun. Its possible that's what happened with Joe Grant. He just may have not had the chance to buy the ammo he had used earlier.
What is your opinion of the historical accuracy of the new Billy the Kid tv series that is now in season 2?
Believe it or not, I haven’t seen it yet
Another great video Josh. I was born in Texas myself but have spent most of my life in Oklahoma. Wonder why Paulita Maxwell never admitted being Billy the Kid's girl, read one article that after he was arrested at Stinking Springs she came to see him in jail and the guards had to pry them apart was the words the man reading the documentary used. Course I have read claims that he fathered a couple children with other women also, though I don't know the names of the women.
Yep, I'll be talking about that embrace and those rumors on the next episode
Probably been mentioned but, i believe Josh meant Marty Robbins. Not Stuart.
Correct
Josh u ever looked in to the kgc? If they did meet I would say it was because that were bought members of the kgs. And billy was set up to take down the Santa Fe ring. Idk but it would make a good story
I have not
@@WildWestExtravaganza o man ur going need a year or two to get to the bottom of it. I got some books I can recommend but ya. It's a deep rabbit hole. To sum it up kgc was stared around the civil war. and was a bunch of outlaws hiding money for a second civil war people like the James and buch and Sundance just to name some house hold names. I think black jack k. Might have been kgc too. Seems like train robbery was big on there list. Some of the gold and guns have been found there's a code kinda like free mansions and if u can brake it u can find hiding spots from south America to north Carolina.
Sorry for the run on. Spelling and sentence structure not something I am good at.
Did Billy bonny deserve his notoriety as im not sure, he's not in the same league as Frank and jessie james, was it as doc said in young guns "this country seriously needs a hero" in other words it came from dime novels, more great work well done.
Billito!!.come baxk and marry me!!! (said every mexican girl in Lincoln county 🇺🇸
I'll go rhythm
Didn't Marty Robbins sing texas red? Marty Stuart sang hillbilly rock 😆 and it was an Arizona ranger that took Texas red. So Arizonans must shoot better than Texans lol
Bold told from a Missourian
@Wild West Extravaganza you need to relisten to your bloody bill story! We can shoot! 😆
Anyone can out shoot Kansians!!!!
@Wild West Extravaganza we always need to remind them the Chiefs are our team. Not theirs!
I can out shoot all of ya.
Can anyone guess why this episode reminded me of the James Garner movie Tank and pussy communists?
Dam it josh quite that shit. Nm boys can shoot.👉💀
Sure
@@WildWestExtravaganza 😂😂😂
Texas is fine and dandy, but doesn't hold a candle to California.
Lew Wallace wrote Ben-Hur.
Yes
It looks like Billy is missing his pointing finger on his left hand is this true
I have never heard anyone make this claim until 2 days ago...I've now heard it at least half a dozen times. If you don't mind me asking, where are you getting this information?
A lot of people who knew the Kid wrote a lot about him and I've never seen anything indicating him missing a finger.
To me it simply looks like his finger is curved as he holds the rifle.
@@WildWestExtravaganza looks like it's gone to me I was just wondering
You mean Marty Robbins. Not Marty Stuart. Just doing my job, correcting you for the good of the podcast. I remain a fan.
Yeah, I messed up
every one knows the real cowboys are in Arizona.
Also the indian agency would have been paranoid and trigger happy due to being raided by texans and the murfe qnd other groups constantly before billy and them guys ever showed up .
Josh, if you land the part as an extra in YG3, and do not land me a part as well…
…then I’ll make you famous…….er.
I now know to a 100% certainty that brushy bill roberts was billy the kid when he was young . Not a shadow of doubt in my mind . With all due respect .
With all due respect, you’ve been given false information
@@WildWestExtravaganza I wasn't given anything I found my own evidence, I just got home from a trip to new mexico, and I am delighted
you would think that with all the ladies he romanced he would have knocked one up lol just sayin
He probably did