Same here. I love Old West Vignettes. I was even looking at old ones the other day and this being Nine months old only just popped up. Damn Santa TH-cam Fe Ring!
@JAMES SMITH volley fire out to 2300 yards was not unheard of, 900 might not seem so crazy if you're used to that sort of range. We all grew up with tv screens a few feet in front of our faces and our vision as a species has suffered terribly.
@@zachv1942 At the battle of Omdurman in 1898 the British infantry opened their volley fire at 2,000 yards against the Mahdists, using Lee Metford rifles.
To be fair a lot of Americans, especially in the conservative half, just can't be trusted to begin with. You get the politicians you run and end up voting for. No surprise that when half the country now denies science and reality at every turn and don't care about the well-being of others you end up with shit government. 🤷♀️
@@stroads. slight differences between the two parties. dems (neolibs) might not give af but repubs (neocons) give a fu. progressives, on the other hand DO give af for all of us, even the people who hate them. sad but true.
I sit in Ruidoso, NM as I write this. I have been visiting Lincoln every summer for over 20 years. The town of Lincoln still persists in two factions telling two stories of the Lincoln County War. Most seem to support Tunstall/McSween and the Regulators but there is a restaurant run by members of the Dolan Clan who will argue their side. And it is unfortunate that local LE have a display in the Lincoln County court house which is biased against the Regulators. I encourage all who can to visit and learn first hand the stories of the Lincoln County War.
its unfortunate that most people think current lincoln county was lincoln county in 1879. Back then i believe it covered a big part of otero, chaves, eddy, and some de baca county. 7 rivers warriors.
I love these Old West videos. Presenting the stories without the mythologised elements actually humanises them and makes the lives of the people involved seem all the more remarkable. They're not black and white hats any more, but flawed human beings struggling to survive in absolutely insane circumstances. Susan MacSween must have been hard as nails.
Sadly, most people concentrate on the clothing and technology of the past and don't realize that people back then were not all that different , good and bad, from people today.
@@12vscience That’s about the most stupid interpretation of the great man theory of history, which is already very stupid and unscientific, I’ve ever heard
Very well done, informative, and well produced, It obviously took a ton of work and research to deliver an avalanche of info in such short order. Content like this is why I'm a patreon! You, Ian, and the tank guy are my favorite places on the net for interesting and non-silly content.
As usual , the reality behind historic events is always more fascinating than the myths because it's about real people not story book characters. Thanks Inrange TV.
505 LOVE!! Absolutely loved this video, and the ending... my face hurts from smiling so much! You're 100% right. Even knowing the story or parts of it from family growing up here in NM; like the hours long fire fight from a burning building (How freaking metal is that??) and the damn corrupt Army General, seeing the visuals and the small details along the way enhanced the story so much. Especially that 900 yard shot! Thank you again, excellent content as always.
Great video. I always love to learn about this sort of thing. Armed conflict within the US is something thats rarely talked about outside of the civil war. Its interesting and important I think to learn about our history and the battles that took place
I'm late, but I finally got around to enjoying this. Thanks for taking the (surely large amount of) time to make these. They're very interesting, and not easily found elsewhere.
What an interesting story with somewhat of a positive outcome for at least one of the characters. She sounds like a properly strong and brave woman. I love the channel by the way Karl, it’s certainly one of my favourites for the more insightful and thought provoking content. Regardless of weather it’s firearms or history such as this and your other vignettes. Much love from England, thanks for doing what you do.
Every time I watch one of these, I get the urge to absorb even more western historical content, but always end up a bit disappointed that it doesn't live up to the same quality standards of Inrange. You really are doing great work documenting forgotten parts of history. Also, If you ever want to do a video on that leather jacket or any other of your more interesting wardrobe piece (such as your western wear) id certainly enjoy it.
@@InrangeTv These history vignettes are my most favourite videos from InRange TV. I enjoy most of the other channel content too but I think history is a more important subject that many of the other topics covered by the channel.
@@InrangeTv yeah sorry Karl! Other content doesn't live up to yours!!! Old west vignettes are the absolute best and most of the other western historical content just pales in comparison! Sorry for not being clearer man, I really love these videos a ton. They're so good they've ruined other content for me.
Love these stories. It really illuminates the reality of the late 1800’s, corrupt government officials in cahoots with oligarchs murdering the competition. I did not know Susan Mcsween’s incredible story, and am grateful that you made sure to share it.
I grew up in Chaves and Roosevelt counties, Graduated from Elida High School in 88. My little brother and his family live just outside of Lincoln, his wife worked at the Dolan House until it closed in 2020. While it's not so much talked about publically, there are still people around Lincoln, Capitan, Fort Sumner, and the surrounding areas that are direct descendants of the participants (on both sides) of this part of New Mexico history, and some definitely still have strong feelings regarding the Lincoln County War, and some of their neighbors.
I really like your style of wanting to see the places where these things took place. It really lets me visualize it a lot better than as an abstract story.
the tone you adopted in this video was entrancing. both enthusiastic and respectful. ever thought about doing voice-over for a book on the old west? thank you for the great content
Wonderfully done, Karl. I've been to Lincoln and can confirm that you have to go there or listen to someone good like Karl. Understanding the circumstances of the place is important to understanding the events, just as true in this war as any other I suppose.
I would love to see him do a story on the Pleasant Valley War here in Arizona. Took place in the Young area. Not much common knowledge of what happened up there.
These old west vignettes have become most interesting parts of the channel, for me. When the story is told on site, and with all the details not commonly focused on in TV programs, it becomes incredibly interesting. Thanks for doing them!
I think this is the second video Karl has done on Billy the Kid/the Lincoln County War where the historical facts sound pretty close to what was shown in Young Guns. Who'd have thought that a Brat Pack neo-western would get its history halfway correct?
Love these types of video and love the respect shown to the "baroness". I feel like many prominent and powerful women in history are largely ignored, so this was cool to hear about!
Thank you Karl, once again you give us an interesting vignettes. These are why Im a patreon supporter and I hope that more people watching these will do the same so you can continue doing them.
I enjoy all of the content that you upload Karl, but your historical vignettes are by far my favorites. You have that knack for bringing the reality, logistics & personal identification to light along with the facts. Thanks !
Thanks Karl, great video as always! Edited to agree with a previous comment, it’s a skill to deliver accurate history in a concise and interesting way.
"The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes which limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States."
One thing I want to highlight is how well you manage to keep a flowing narration going while cutting between different locations. It would be very easy to fall into a stop-start pattern with every cut, but you make it sound like one continuous lecture. I can't imagine that's easy to do, but it's easily overlooked by the audience, so I specifically wanted to congratulate you on that particular aspect.
I'd love to see you cover some old, old west guns: the stuff used in Blood Meridian, like the Wesson Rifle, turnover rifles, and especially rifles with the False Muzzle application.
Great video. I work down in Ruidoso quite a bit. Drove through Ft. Stanton last week. It’s beautiful down that way with all the rain we’ve been getting.
Amazing content as always, thank you Karl. Love the gun stuff but it's content like this that have convinced me to become a patron as soon as my finances get back in order. I only wish my history classes back in high school and college even came close to content like this where a slice of history can give us a real insight into the past.
This was portrayed in Young Guns as the final gunfight between Billy's Regulators and Murphy's hired guns. I loved Emilio Estevez as Billy the Kid. Probably my favorite western after Tombstone.
I thought the movie was just fiction with one of the characters named after the real person. It wasn't until I saw these Inrange videos that I realized how much was true. I don't recall the movie being advertised as based on a true story but it seems much more accurate than most of the movies that that claim a basis in history.
Always love this content. Gotta wonder how many "little" dramas like this happened across the world though history. Also, a little out of your way but I'd love to see a InRange video about the Battle of Athens that took place in Tennessee in 1946, where WW2 vets overthrew the government in McMinn County.
I realize these old west videos don't get the numbers your other ones do, but they are easily my favorite
Sure do not! Thank you!
Agreed without a doubt!
This dude did a great elaborate historic description on location. To fucking rad. Great job
Same here. I love Old West Vignettes. I was even looking at old ones the other day and this being Nine months old only just popped up. Damn Santa TH-cam Fe Ring!
Hopefully in the end they'll get more views than any of the other more current stuff, since history is always fascinating
900 yard kill shot without a scope. Absolute legend.
Right up there with the Adobe Walls shot, for sure.
@cas curse Depends on the size of the pie, but if you're talking like, normal non-Texas sizes, right around 3,600 apple pies
@JAMES SMITH volley fire out to 2300 yards was not unheard of, 900 might not seem so crazy if you're used to that sort of range. We all grew up with tv screens a few feet in front of our faces and our vision as a species has suffered terribly.
@@beargillium2369volley fire that far hasn't been recorded. Or at least recorded in active confrontation.
@@zachv1942 At the battle of Omdurman in 1898 the British infantry opened their volley fire at 2,000 yards against the Mahdists, using Lee Metford rifles.
InRangeTV: Come for the rad firearms content, stay for the equally rad historical content.
Honestly the historical content was what hooked me to this channel.
I have always appreciated the historical vignettes.
I liked the maps as a reference for the scale and geography of the area. Really helps me visualize the events without being there.
As the old saying goes, "Nothin' new under the sun." That includes government tactics.
@@MikeDonner The bible is pretty old.
And yet the government just can't fathom why the public doesn't trust them
...that's not true at all. They just don't give af
To be fair a lot of Americans, especially in the conservative half, just can't be trusted to begin with.
You get the politicians you run and end up voting for. No surprise that when half the country now denies science and reality at every turn and don't care about the well-being of others you end up with shit government. 🤷♀️
@@stroads. slight differences between the two parties. dems (neolibs) might not give af but repubs (neocons) give a fu.
progressives, on the other hand DO give af for all of us, even the people who hate them.
sad but true.
If the people didn't trust the government, we wouldn't have elected marxists into the White House.
@@jessebianchi2631 yes that's why they have such a hard on for gun grabbing while we have a "YT supremacist government" lmao
I sit in Ruidoso, NM as I write this. I have been visiting Lincoln every summer for over 20 years. The town of Lincoln still persists in two factions telling two stories of the Lincoln County War. Most seem to support Tunstall/McSween and the Regulators but there is a restaurant run by members of the Dolan Clan who will argue their side. And it is unfortunate that local LE have a display in the Lincoln County court house which is biased against the Regulators. I encourage all who can to visit and learn first hand the stories of the Lincoln County War.
its unfortunate that most people think current lincoln county was lincoln county in 1879. Back then i believe it covered a big part of otero, chaves, eddy, and some de baca county. 7 rivers warriors.
"Territorial New Mexico was a very corrupt place " The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Karl, I love the way you tell the true history in these videos. Thank you.
Glad you like them!
I love these historical vignettes.
I love these Old West videos. Presenting the stories without the mythologised elements actually humanises them and makes the lives of the people involved seem all the more remarkable. They're not black and white hats any more, but flawed human beings struggling to survive in absolutely insane circumstances. Susan MacSween must have been hard as nails.
Sadly, most people concentrate on the clothing and technology of the past and don't realize that people back then were not all that different , good and bad, from people today.
@@12vscience That’s about the most stupid interpretation of the great man theory of history, which is already very stupid and unscientific, I’ve ever heard
Very well done, informative, and well produced, It obviously took a ton of work and research to deliver an avalanche of info in such short order. Content like this is why I'm a patreon! You, Ian, and the tank guy are my favorite places on the net for interesting and non-silly content.
Much appreciated!
As usual , the reality behind historic events is always more fascinating than the myths because it's about real people not story book characters. Thanks Inrange TV.
That was the best western vignette so far. Good job Karl.
I agree :-)
I love these old west vignettes.
Also, can we just take a moment to respect a 900 yard shot with a buffalo rifle.
I doubt that there are many people today that could make that shot even with a modern rifle and ammunition. Without a scope that is.
505 LOVE!! Absolutely loved this video, and the ending... my face hurts from smiling so much! You're 100% right. Even knowing the story or parts of it from family growing up here in NM; like the hours long fire fight from a burning building (How freaking metal is that??) and the damn corrupt Army General, seeing the visuals and the small details along the way enhanced the story so much. Especially that 900 yard shot! Thank you again, excellent content as always.
575 LOVE
Great video. I always love to learn about this sort of thing. Armed conflict within the US is something thats rarely talked about outside of the civil war. Its interesting and important I think to learn about our history and the battles that took place
I'm late, but I finally got around to enjoying this. Thanks for taking the (surely large amount of) time to make these. They're very interesting, and not easily found elsewhere.
Glad you like them!
What an interesting story with somewhat of a positive outcome for at least one of the characters. She sounds like a properly strong and brave woman. I love the channel by the way Karl, it’s certainly one of my favourites for the more insightful and thought provoking content. Regardless of weather it’s firearms or history such as this and your other vignettes. Much love from England, thanks for doing what you do.
Thank you!
That is most certainly true.
Every time I watch one of these, I get the urge to absorb even more western historical content, but always end up a bit disappointed that it doesn't live up to the same quality standards of Inrange. You really are doing great work documenting forgotten parts of history.
Also, If you ever want to do a video on that leather jacket or any other of your more interesting wardrobe piece (such as your western wear) id certainly enjoy it.
Quality standards? These are BY FAR the most difficult videos to do on the channel but a WIDE margin. I don't know what to tell you.
@@InrangeTv These history vignettes are my most favourite videos from InRange TV. I enjoy most of the other channel content too but I think history is a more important subject that many of the other topics covered by the channel.
@@InrangeTv yeah sorry Karl! Other content doesn't live up to yours!!! Old west vignettes are the absolute best and most of the other western historical content just pales in comparison! Sorry for not being clearer man, I really love these videos a ton. They're so good they've ruined other content for me.
500 yards is challenging for me with a modern rifle. 900 is amazing.
Love these stories. It really illuminates the reality of the late 1800’s, corrupt government officials in cahoots with oligarchs murdering the competition. I did not know Susan Mcsween’s incredible story, and am grateful that you made sure to share it.
Thanks for continuing to make these videos Karl. They are great and I am always happy to see them in my notifications.
Glad you like them!
900 yard shot in that time is just insane. Always nice learning about this stuff!
This was an especially touching and beautiful piece. Thank you.
That's the kind of stories no one tells you. Thanks !
Thanks for listening!
Im from silver city nm and have been to billy's childhood home and his mother's grave....this stuff hits home for me..
I grew up in Chaves and Roosevelt counties, Graduated from Elida High School in 88. My little brother and his family live just outside of Lincoln, his wife worked at the Dolan House until it closed in 2020. While it's not so much talked about publically, there are still people around Lincoln, Capitan, Fort Sumner, and the surrounding areas that are direct descendants of the participants (on both sides) of this part of New Mexico history, and some definitely still have strong feelings regarding the Lincoln County War, and some of their neighbors.
I really like your style of wanting to see the places where these things took place. It really lets me visualize it a lot better than as an abstract story.
Young guns probably my fave Western movie.. This video was extremely well done. Thank you sir.
the tone you adopted in this video was entrancing. both enthusiastic and respectful. ever thought about doing voice-over for a book on the old west? thank you for the great content
"Regulators! Mount up!!"🎶
Wonderfully done, Karl. I've been to Lincoln and can confirm that you have to go there or listen to someone good like Karl. Understanding the circumstances of the place is important to understanding the events, just as true in this war as any other I suppose.
Excellent documentary! I take pride in the fact that I made a tiny, tiny contribution to making it happen. Thanks Karl.
Thanks again!
0:45 Can relate.
If it's not already on your historical vignette to-do list, I would recommend the Battle of Athens.
I would love to see him do a story on the Pleasant Valley War here in Arizona. Took place in the Young area. Not much common knowledge of what happened up there.
Absolutely fascinating - Thank You Karl.
These old west vignettes have become most interesting parts of the channel, for me. When the story is told on site, and with all the details not commonly focused on in TV programs, it becomes incredibly interesting. Thanks for doing them!
I think this is the second video Karl has done on Billy the Kid/the Lincoln County War where the historical facts sound pretty close to what was shown in Young Guns. Who'd have thought that a Brat Pack neo-western would get its history halfway correct?
virgin generic gun youtuber: magdumps at 5 yards, uses camera and editing tricks
chad Fernando Herrera: 900-yard no-scope one-shot kill.
Thanks Karl, I love this stuff. I'm English so it's not even _my_ history as such but I find it fascinating all the same.
Another great example of what keeps me here. Best overall channel on TH-cam imho. Thanks for taking the time to do such great work.
Wow, thanks!
This is one of your best historical videos yet .
Love these types of video and love the respect shown to the "baroness". I feel like many prominent and powerful women in history are largely ignored, so this was cool to hear about!
Thank you Karl, once again you give us an interesting vignettes. These are why Im a patreon supporter and I hope that more people watching these will do the same so you can continue doing them.
I enjoy all of the content that you upload Karl, but your historical vignettes are by far my favorites. You have that knack for bringing the reality, logistics & personal identification to light along with the facts. Thanks !
Many thanks!
Thin line between "government" and "mafia"
Only difference is the name.
Thanks Karl, great video as always! Edited to agree with a previous comment, it’s a skill to deliver accurate history in a concise and interesting way.
I love these vignettes, thanks for all the great content guys
The US government never changes.
Great content, such interesting history for such a young country .
These vignettes are absolutely outstanding not only for content but for the narration which is spotless. Look forward to the next 👍
These Wild West vignettes are my favorite bit of insightful content. They are so rad!
Incredible. Thank you for sharing this
Another excellent historical vignette, Karl! Many thanks for presenting these gems!
Thank you for your content, Karl.
"The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law signed on June 18, 1878, by President Rutherford B. Hayes which limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States."
Another fascinating educational video for a British guy interested in the true stories of the American West. Keep up the good work.
More to come!
I love these videos. Excellent idea, using the maps, it's a good visualization tool.
Wow Karl those camera shots were amazing. Great stuff InRangeTV!
The governor of New Mexico should had given Billy and the rest of the regulators a pardon. Great channel and video by the way ! Keep them coming !
Awesome story, thanks for going out there and then putting this together.
Thanks Karl. Excellent as always.
One thing I want to highlight is how well you manage to keep a flowing narration going while cutting between different locations. It would be very easy to fall into a stop-start pattern with every cut, but you make it sound like one continuous lecture. I can't imagine that's easy to do, but it's easily overlooked by the audience, so I specifically wanted to congratulate you on that particular aspect.
Thanks for making these. They are very interesting.
Excellent work as usual you're a great narrator and host Karl. Can't let this go rejoined your Patreon again
This was such a great video. Love your content. Keep it up!
Love these stories you do! Especially about the Lincoln County war.
Love watching these vignettes
I love it when you make these kind of videos, thanks Karl!
Great work. Thanks for putting in the time, research, and effort to bring us this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks Karl. I really enjoyed this and I learnt more about the actual history of the Lincoln County War.
Fantastic content as always. Keep up the great work!
Also, I hope you have some more videos in your Lever Gun Series in the works!
I'd love to see you cover some old, old west guns: the stuff used in Blood Meridian, like the Wesson Rifle, turnover rifles, and especially rifles with the False Muzzle application.
Dude yall are awesome and an accurate and precise educational tool about America.
Great episode Karl!
Love these. Thanks!
Such an amazing story!!! Thank you for sharing!!! I LOVE your channel!!! Much Love from Utah!!!
From England I second the view of these vignettes, tremendous research, thoughtful delivery - shame not as popular - they should be.
Great video. I work down in Ruidoso quite a bit. Drove through Ft. Stanton last week. It’s beautiful down that way with all the rain we’ve been getting.
I don't think they prefer the military for this sort of thing anymore. That's old fashioned. Now they use various alphabet agencies
Amazing content as always, thank you Karl. Love the gun stuff but it's content like this that have convinced me to become a patron as soon as my finances get back in order.
I only wish my history classes back in high school and college even came close to content like this where a slice of history can give us a real insight into the past.
Great perspective,
Thanks
Great video! Lincoln New Mexico is a must visit for anyone who loves old west.
This was portrayed in Young Guns as the final gunfight between Billy's Regulators and Murphy's hired guns. I loved Emilio Estevez as Billy the Kid. Probably my favorite western after Tombstone.
I thought the movie was just fiction with one of the characters named after the real person. It wasn't until I saw these Inrange videos that I realized how much was true. I don't recall the movie being advertised as based on a true story but it seems much more accurate than most of the movies that that claim a basis in history.
Old west vingettes are just one reason I support the channel.
Man I really love these old west history videos
Awesome content Karl.
Always love this content. Gotta wonder how many "little" dramas like this happened across the world though history. Also, a little out of your way but I'd love to see a InRange video about the Battle of Athens that took place in Tennessee in 1946, where WW2 vets overthrew the government in McMinn County.
Beautiful, more please!
Excellent presentation Carl.
Great video Karl. I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for a great job in telling this story.
Great story! Didn't know that last bit AT ALL! Thanks again Karl :)
Thanks for this video, love the old west stuff
I love these videos! Keep the great history content coming.
Thank you for the content.
Such great videos, thanks.
amazing on-site history lesson
great video, so much incredible history falls through the cracks, bravo man!
Thank you for the history lesson.