Awesome fix. I wish my oil change guy had suggested this. He said the solution was to replace the pan. Now that I'm educated, next time he mentions it I will ask him about using an over-sized drain plug. Yes, it's a temporary fix but a lot cheaper than replacing the pan. The guy looked like a rookie so I will forgive him for his lack of knowledge. The funny thing was, the shop owner was like ten ft. away and I could have asked him. Next time I will. Thanks!
Wait til you find out about all the other unnecessary things the “uneducated” shop is charging you for. If only they had more knowledge, they wouldn’t need to make nearly as much money off you! How silly of them. 🤦♂️
Thank you for taking the time to help people that have a stripped oil sump pan. I'm going to use a 14x1.5 mm oversized piggy back drain bolt on my Acura. I bought the car used and it looks like the guys at the quick lube shop's think the bolt should exceed 20Ft Lbs of torque.
Nice thing about the piggyback type, it can be left as a permanent repair as long as the outer bolt goes in snugly. This is true because you never have to take it loose again, use the inner piggyback bolt.
Not mentioned in your video, but something available, same thing oversized oil plug, but removable inner bolt, sometimes referred to as piggyback type. The idea is you put it in once, then to change oil you use the inner bolt that is threaded within the outer replacement drain plug. This allows you to do regular oil changes using an allen key and not touching the cut threads.
I specifically left those out because when you do those piggybacks, you can’t ever drain all of the oil out of the engine they wind up leaving a lot of debris in the lower pan. It doesn’t drain fully in my experience.
Had a place I took my car to get a quick oil change use a pneumatic/impact to get the drain plug back in and it stripped the threads on the old one. Was curious how oversized drain plugs worked and it's pretty much what I assumed. Last time I replaced my own oil, I saw a lot of metal shavings in the oil but the drain plug fit back in - my car has been slowly losing oil for quite a while but only maybe a quart or so every 3 months, which wasn't much of an issue. Now that I look, it does appear that the issue has been the drain plug bolt this whole time. I will replace the pan within the next 6 months or so, but for now, I bought an oversized bolt, just have to jack it up and get the drain plug in it and some more oil. Great video and good explanation!
Thank you for your support. It sucks that you have to go through that. They should not be using an impact tool on the drain plug whatsoever for any reason.
The oversize drain plug should take place of the old plug. However, I wouldn’t recommend them for long-term use, but if you were to do so, you would just clean them off and re-insert them.
If you want to try to get away with it as permanent you need to do the same thing he did, but use a piggyback type repair bolt. If you do it with a piggyback type, you can even use black ATV or some other sealer on the threads because you won't be removing it again. Once installed you just remove the inner piggyback bolt which is usually an allen key. The main key is if you don't change your own oil, it's imperative you take it to a regular repair shop, inform them that you have a piggyback drain plug, quick lubes will f-that up faster than you can blink. Because they'll try to remove the outer repair bolt, and not realize they have to take out the inner bolt. Other than that they work very well.
Thank you I had to order mine m12.1-1.5.15mm v twin my bolt is spinning so I guess the threads are already broken I do the job tomorrow should I flush the oil after?
They don’t really cut any new threads they try to build upon the existing threads and overtime taking them on and off it’ll strip itself out i’ve only seen them last about two oil changes.
@@marccusumano1138 if it can go in and self tap and has a drain in the middle that would would work but if it constricts the oil drain flow it may not be good in the long run it might not drain all impurities
A mechanic put a piggyback plug into one of my vehicles and it lasted for years. I suppose one could put this oversized plug in with red thread lock and use a pump to remove the oil for changes? Is changing an oil pan similar to removing a transmission oil pan for ATF fluid changes? I am going to put a piggyback plug in a car today. I will use blue medium thread lock.😅@@TheEnthusiastMechanic
Just want to point out the reason why the plug is stripped,when the mechanic does your oil change he tightens the plug after removing the old oil not with a spanned but with a pneumatic power tool that is way to powerful for the task and it strips the thread even on a steel sump,this is a universal problem so wide spread that the auto stores supply fixes for the problem,it’s about time that the idiots that cause these problems,and they are major and expensive problems took a little care in what they do but in my experience these mechanics are so disrespectful to others property that they don’t care even though they know the damage they cause .
I have experience doing this. Sometimes the ape in me comes out, and I was going to change my oil but spun my plug the wrong way trying to remove it and stripped the pan threads… time to get an oversize, and flush with some clean oil to ensure I get the aluminum shavings out. I heard you can also coat the new plug with grease to catch the shavings… is that a good idea
I really like how you cover the small stuff that can help people.
Thank you!
Awesome fix. I wish my oil change guy had suggested this. He said the solution was to replace the pan. Now that I'm educated, next time he mentions it I will ask him about using an over-sized drain plug. Yes, it's a temporary fix but a lot cheaper than replacing the pan. The guy looked like a rookie so I will forgive him for his lack of knowledge. The funny thing was, the shop owner was like ten ft. away and I could have asked him. Next time I will. Thanks!
Wait til you find out about all the other unnecessary things the “uneducated” shop is charging you for. If only they had more knowledge, they wouldn’t need to make nearly as much money off you! How silly of them. 🤦♂️
Thank you for taking the time to help people that have a stripped oil sump pan. I'm going to use a 14x1.5 mm oversized piggy back drain bolt on my Acura. I bought the car used and it looks like the guys at the quick lube shop's think the bolt should exceed 20Ft Lbs of torque.
Have you fixed your problem? I have the same problem on my Honda Civic.
Nice thing about the piggyback type, it can be left as a permanent repair as long as the outer bolt goes in snugly. This is true because you never have to take it loose again, use the inner piggyback bolt.
Not mentioned in your video, but something available, same thing oversized oil plug, but removable inner bolt, sometimes referred to as piggyback type. The idea is you put it in once, then to change oil you use the inner bolt that is threaded within the outer replacement drain plug. This allows you to do regular oil changes using an allen key and not touching the cut threads.
I specifically left those out because when you do those piggybacks, you can’t ever drain all of the oil out of the engine they wind up leaving a lot of debris in the lower pan. It doesn’t drain fully in my experience.
The camera views are perfectly fine; Thanks.
Had a place I took my car to get a quick oil change use a pneumatic/impact to get the drain plug back in and it stripped the threads on the old one. Was curious how oversized drain plugs worked and it's pretty much what I assumed.
Last time I replaced my own oil, I saw a lot of metal shavings in the oil but the drain plug fit back in - my car has been slowly losing oil for quite a while but only maybe a quart or so every 3 months, which wasn't much of an issue. Now that I look, it does appear that the issue has been the drain plug bolt this whole time.
I will replace the pan within the next 6 months or so, but for now, I bought an oversized bolt, just have to jack it up and get the drain plug in it and some more oil. Great video and good explanation!
Thank you for your support. It sucks that you have to go through that. They should not be using an impact tool on the drain plug whatsoever for any reason.
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thanks for this. great vid! 👍
Glad you liked it!
Thanks
great video i have used these before they work good
Yes they do
Great video! Let's say that you have a 20mm bolt that is loose like that. Would i try a oversized 20mm self tapping bolt? thank you
Yes, they are usually tapered and a bit bigger but are generally sold as the size you have
Are these a one time use type of thing? Or can you remove them to clean shavings and reinstall?
The oversize drain plug should take place of the old plug. However, I wouldn’t recommend them for long-term use, but if you were to do so, you would just clean them off and re-insert them.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic Curious why not recommended for long term use if they happen to work? Do they not seal properly over time or?
@@mrsemifixit yes that and the threads it makes aren’t the strongest either.
If you want to try to get away with it as permanent you need to do the same thing he did, but use a piggyback type repair bolt. If you do it with a piggyback type, you can even use black ATV or some other sealer on the threads because you won't be removing it again. Once installed you just remove the inner piggyback bolt which is usually an allen key. The main key is if you don't change your own oil, it's imperative you take it to a regular repair shop, inform them that you have a piggyback drain plug, quick lubes will f-that up faster than you can blink. Because they'll try to remove the outer repair bolt, and not realize they have to take out the inner bolt. Other than that they work very well.
If my current drain plug is 12m-1.25 would I get a 12m-1.25 oversized drain plug?
They typically will tell you which one fits which threading for the oversize
12.1x1.25
My question is how do I get the bolt out when it just rotates in the thread no tight or loose feeling
You basically have to pry against the bolt as you spin it out to get it out otherwise you’re just gonna have to force it somehow
I have an M12x1.5, should I get an M14x1.5 oversize?
Oversize are specific to the size that is stripped out. It’s not just a step up in the size chart size.
I can’t remove my plug it can spin both ways but hold a seal… any ideas
It’s probably stripped out, use a flat head screwdriver to pry while you turn it to get it off.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic will do, thank you for the fast reply… about to drive 10 hours to my new job!!!
@@jaycezeniuk2506 holy shit hopefully u made it!
How did u get the stripped one out is what i wanted to know man😭
Losen it while using a screwdriver to apply pressure outwards
Thank you I had to order mine m12.1-1.5.15mm v twin my bolt is spinning so I guess the threads are already broken I do the job tomorrow should I flush the oil after?
Why is a self tapping plug not a permanent fix? Thanks.
They don’t really cut any new threads they try to build upon the existing threads and overtime taking them on and off it’ll strip itself out i’ve only seen them last about two oil changes.
@@TheEnthusiastMechanic What about a self-tapper with a piggyback as a permanent solution?
@@marccusumano1138 if it can go in and self tap and has a drain in the middle that would would work but if it constricts the oil drain flow it may not be good in the long run it might not drain all impurities
A mechanic put a piggyback plug into one of my vehicles and it lasted for years. I suppose one could put this oversized plug in with red thread lock and use a pump to remove the oil for changes? Is changing an oil pan similar to removing a transmission oil pan for ATF fluid changes? I am going to put a piggyback plug in a car today. I will use blue medium thread lock.😅@@TheEnthusiastMechanic
Just want to point out the reason why the plug is stripped,when the mechanic does your oil change he tightens the plug after removing the old oil not with a spanned but with a pneumatic power tool that is way to powerful for the task and it strips the thread even on a steel sump,this is a universal problem so wide spread that the auto stores supply fixes for the problem,it’s about time that the idiots that cause these problems,and they are major and expensive problems took a little care in what they do but in my experience these mechanics are so disrespectful to others property that they don’t care even though they know the damage they cause .
Most that I’ve ever seen only used ratchets
It's beyond me why people tighten the drain plugs like lug nuts. Ridiculous.
I feel the same way I don't understand why either!
I have experience doing this. Sometimes the ape in me comes out, and I was going to change my oil but spun my plug the wrong way trying to remove it and stripped the pan threads… time to get an oversize, and flush with some clean oil to ensure I get the aluminum shavings out. I heard you can also coat the new plug with grease to catch the shavings… is that a good idea
Robert Keefer - Agree 100%. It's because they weren't trained by a professional mechanic.