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  • @NiyatiiHangma-my4vs
    @NiyatiiHangma-my4vs ปีที่แล้ว +123

    Came here from a facebook post which mentioned only limbus. I am from sikkim only andnstay here in yuksom. The post sharer on fb questioned the credibility of this video, but I feel this is really great research by someone from the outer community. Even limbus themselves do not knw this much and I think other tribes as well. But ewta kura ho tyoh ke ho bhanay, this is history, which cant be hundred percent true. This channel has referred to some books which I have also read during my thesis, and it is completely fine to take sources. Many won't agree with it, many will. Aboh itihaas ko lagi ta tyahi samayma po pugnuh paryoh ta ushova testai credibility ra authenticity khojnu cha bhane. We read sources and then we are supposed to research more, these youtube videos can only give you a summary of the history but atleast they are giving which is commendable. Khoi tah hamro afnui limbu bhai baini haru le banauna video ani ustai ramro knowledge cha bhane ujjyagar garung. Galti nikalnu, galti bataunu sajilo huncha, kasaiko mehnat cha, kunai bahiri manche le hamro samaj ko kura dekhaunu nae thulo kura ho tara hamro ta kaam ni galti dekhaunay ho ra aghi bardieuna ta. They have done great work i feel and this should continue. Do we have anyone who raised such things over youtube or any other big platform before? No!! Moreover they are giving sources, not claiming anything of their own or changing history specially the history which some of our own community people think is true but reject everything else.

    • @anmolthapa7055
      @anmolthapa7055 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      There is a difference between history, legend and myth. Any culture in the world has abundance of myths and legends which has often overshadowed the reality. Our region is no exception.
      The history as mentioned in the video may or may not be authentic yet the team has left no stone unturned to present us with something that has not been done before.

    • @ksambahang3122
      @ksambahang3122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Vry true.

    • @rojeenasubba
      @rojeenasubba ปีที่แล้ว

      Very well said, I agree with you

    • @mausamImbung
      @mausamImbung ปีที่แล้ว

      agreed😍

    • @sonamlachenpa2154
      @sonamlachenpa2154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Before human world is ruled by dinosaurs.....

  • @adyenmooschannel.2120
    @adyenmooschannel.2120 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Our Lepcha tribal history was not spoken of clearly until today. Thankyou very much for going in depth and reviving our history.
    🎉🎉

    • @dlrongs
      @dlrongs ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But he miss some point

    • @adyenmooschannel.2120
      @adyenmooschannel.2120 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dlrongs We can't expect them to know everything. They tried their best.

    • @Tobiraaaama
      @Tobiraaaama 11 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      While reading history of limbuwan, especially ist ilam king has Mu ta chi Ema hang name ,I believe with time he and his people became limbu as limbuwan was made with the help of 10 kings with king of ilam being one..As per folk tales 8 kings of earlier limbuwan was defeated by new 10 kings...yakhas also says that they were defeated by rongs and chongs
      Earlier few lepchas might have become limbus and like wise in chogyal regime, many limbus became lepcha too and one of them is my grandmother parents who became lepcha...U can find some thars that are same.

  • @palden74
    @palden74 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    इतिहास भन्ने कुरो एउटा अनुमान लगाए लेखिएको हुन्छ। संसारको धेरै देशहरुमा कति इतिहासहरु लाई त दबाको पनि हुन्छ। नेपालको मान्छेहरु सँग कुरा गर्यो भने सिक्किम त पहिला हाम्रो थ्यो भन्छ। बरु नेपालले चै सिक्किमको धेरै ठाउँहरु ओगटेको बुझिन्छ। इमानसिंह चेम्जोङ दार्जिलिङमा जन्म भएता पनि नेपाली नागरिक नै हुनुहुन्थ्यो। हाल तिब्बतको चुम्बी भ्यालीमा पहिला लेप्चा हुने गर्थ्यो भने तिब्बत मा पनि टुक्रा-टुक्रा राजाहरू हुने गर्थ्यो। प्राचिनकालमा लेप्चाहरुले लगाउने गहना चाहिँ झि, छुरु, मुगा, टर्किज नै लगाउने गर्थ्यो भनेर साबित चाहिँ हुन्छ, उस्तै गहनाहरु तिब्बतका हरुले पनि लगाउँछन् नेपालको ताप्लेजुङ्ग भन्ने जिल्ला जो चै हाम्रो नर्थ सिक्किमसँग नजिक पर्छ, अनि त्यहाँ अझै पनि लेप्चाको चिहानहरु भेटिन्छ। लेप्चा को चिहान खोतालेर त्यहाँको हालको लोकोलहरुले झी, छुरू जस्तो किम्ती समानहर निकाल्ने गर्थ्यो भन्छन्। हाल ताप्लेजुङको त्यो ठाउँ नेपाली सेनाको अण्डर मा छन्। नेपालमा मा पनि अनेको राजाहरु हुने गर्थ्यो। सिक्किम मा पनि प्रान्त प्रान्तमा आ-आफ्नो शासक हुने गर्थ्यो। सबै यी भनिएका जातिहरूको आफ्नो-आफ्नो territory हुनेगर्थ्यो । पक्कै पनि एकार्काको अण्डर मा चाहिँ कोही थिएन! एकीकृत सिक्किम बनाउने चाहिँ चोग्याल फुन्त्सोग नामग्याल नै हो भनेर बुझिन्छ। अब यो नामग्याल को सन्तानहरूको DNA चेक गर्यो भने लिम्बू को पनि भेटिन्छ लेप्चा को पनि भेटिन्छ। लिम्बुनी त दोस्रो राजाको एकदम प्यारी रानी नै थियो भनेर पनि बुझिन्छ। Tibet मा पनि त्यहाँ बुद्धिजम आउनु भन्दा अगाडि कुल पित्र मान्ने गर्थ्यो भनेर बुझिन्छ। अझैपनि त्यस्ता मान्ने व्यक्तिहरु tibet मा छन भन्छन, जसले दलाई लामाको विरोध गर्ने गर्छन्। लिम्बू लेप्चा मगर भोटिया को इतिहास अझ गहिरेर खोज्यो भने एउटै परिवार बाट छुटेको दाजुभाइ हुनु पर्छ। ईतिहास धेरै गाजे माजे छन्। नेपालमा पनि अंशुवर्माकी छोरी भृकुटी जो चै तिब्बतको एउटा राजा संगसंघुम्पा ले बिहे गरेका थिए, त्यो इतिहासलाई लुकाउनु खोजेको देखिन्छ।यो भिडियो टीमले धेरै जसो डाक्टर इमानसिंह चेम्जोङ को पुस्तक बाट संकलन गरेको भेटिन्छ।

    • @dbyakkha6052
      @dbyakkha6052 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ing hang or Iyakhang

  • @narprasadgurung5983
    @narprasadgurung5983 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I appreciate the informative history on origination of Mangars (Magars), Limbus and Lepchas ! I am amazed you tried to highlight some of the places of Nepal like Ilam, Fidim and Arun khola. We find some of the indigenous people who just worship nature like jungle and rivers even today !

  • @pemduptsheringlepcha688
    @pemduptsheringlepcha688 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Aap ne history to bataya mager ye Lepcha,Limbu,Mangar aur Bhutia bhasa ka,jo itna achcha se pranounciation kiya.Amazing 👍👍👍🌹💐🌺💞

  • @birhanglimbu609
    @birhanglimbu609 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I'm a Limbu from Taplejung Nepal ,"Tamor "region that you mentioned in your video.
    This is one of the most relatable research video I have ever come across.think most of the evidence that supports your research about the limbu is true ,but don't know about other tripe. And another thing is that Limbu's never lost the war against Gurkha , instead they betreit us cleaverly >here Gurkhas those days were bhramins and chettriyas.they disobeyed the treaty b/wn . Limbu's and Gurkha.Rest all the evidence are really true.Even about the" mundhum" that you mentioned is very much true.
    You have a good research team great job.keep bringing us the truth about the history.

    • @bhaskarupadhyaya2053
      @bhaskarupadhyaya2053 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gorkhas had Khas(chhetri), Gurung, magar and Thakuri. These four caste/tribes were first gorkhas. Prithvi Narayan shah was thakuri

    • @shailendradahal1693
      @shailendradahal1693 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Gorkhas at the time not only had Bhramin and Chettris but also Magar and Gurung. Do not misrepresent facts for your convenience.

    • @unitedbrothers5785
      @unitedbrothers5785 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hlo

    • @aaryallimbv2155
      @aaryallimbv2155 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Gorkhali attack against limbuwan 17 times but gorkha couldn't success in limbuwan in 1831 limbuwan and gorkha between many agreement to N × limbuwan and limbus are also join gorkha army participant in the world war

    • @neemalepcha777
      @neemalepcha777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vedio is very informative, you have worked very hard. Thank you so much. These are just outline where every tribe has to work deeper. One thing, King Gaebo Achyok was betryed and assassinated at Dalim Garhi, Gorubathan area not at Damsang Garhi. Anyway these are the history, our history may bring harmony among the tribes who lived together through the ages.

  • @pranansubba9587
    @pranansubba9587 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    My friend's grandfather used to say once upon a time Lepcha(Rong) and Limbu(Tsong) belonged to a single community. If the wedding is between Lepcha and Limbu then the clan(thar) name is asked because there are many thar where Limbu and Lepcha's are the same eg. Luksom, Setling..

    • @DonGamerzu
      @DonGamerzu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haina hola

    • @pranansubba9587
      @pranansubba9587 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DonGamerzu no idea.

    • @Tobiraaaama
      @Tobiraaaama 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@DonGamerzuyes yes..Even my thar is lingdam limbu and there are plenty of lingdamoo lepcha

    • @NovemberMen05
      @NovemberMen05 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely Correct 💯

    • @neupnembang
      @neupnembang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct even my grandfather says Lucksom are Lepchas who became Limbu.

  • @channelthegijoeshow
    @channelthegijoeshow ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Why just 41k subs??? This channel is gold! I just love how much depth you've gone into whilst researching for this video. For whatever it may be worth, you have my loyalty 😊

    • @satyamjee-yz1ul
      @satyamjee-yz1ul 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      but speak english wrong you.

  • @ganeshmaden8332
    @ganeshmaden8332 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very informative history of Limbu who ruled in eastern part of Nepal extending up toSikkim which is now in India. It means Limbus have right to rule in Limbuwan territory of Nepal and Sikkim.

    • @Yanktang13
      @Yanktang13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hum india mein khush hai aur humko apne Sikkim mein acha lagta hai hum limbuwan ko kuch nhi karna chate woh jasa bhi hai Nepal mein hi thik hai aur hum sab limboo ka pride hai 😊

  • @kdkp2000
    @kdkp2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Ohh I used to think that Bhutia are real/ Indegenous people are Sikkim but today I got to know that Lepchas,Limbu and Magars are. Thanks for the Information.

    • @amiithan1905
      @amiithan1905 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't know what to say but I've always heard from my father that the lepchas and Limbus are same and they're the earliest inhabitants of Sikkim but with magars it's a news to me never heard of them

    • @zscvaaa
      @zscvaaa 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Fool that’s bhutia

  • @chandankumardas6936
    @chandankumardas6936 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Aapka research aur speach... मैं आपके रिसर्च से जुड़ना चाहता हूं। बहुत सारी जानकारी ऐसी है जो दबी हुई है।

  • @dorjeedolma8647
    @dorjeedolma8647 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The way the content creator says the names of indigenous leaders and places is so very impressive ! U have done your research and home work quite well.. That means the only credible history of Sikkim lies after sighning of the treaty of blood brotherhood between the Chiefs Thekong Thek and Khe Bumsa! Issay bad toh apko koi confusion nahin hogi shayad! Now, lets have a video on tge phase after that! Looking forward to it! 😊

  • @tmeto599
    @tmeto599 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    I think, apart from the intricate research, the way you pronounced the local words was equally impressive.

  • @KrishnaHang
    @KrishnaHang ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I am from sikkim proud to be Limbu Nd Thank you very much for such a knowledgeable history

  • @gyatunlepcha3391
    @gyatunlepcha3391 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for covering this🎉
    Achulaay🎉

  • @chanthapa7943
    @chanthapa7943 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you so much for the analysis of Sikkim history......There was a Lepcha king Limbu and Magar king

    • @theempress4920
      @theempress4920 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They were Lepcha and Magar Chiefs

    • @pratikking2272
      @pratikking2272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Magars are definity the descandants of Genjhis khan. However, they eventually converted to Hinduism and mixed with Indo- Aryan tribues such as Khas and Tharus that lived in western middle and southern Nepal. Nowdays, Magars often look like Half Indians. The Sens on the other hand were Bengalis and had close connections with Khas, Madhesi and Newar tribes. During the time of the Sens, Kapalis, Mali, Malakar migrated from Bengal to Kathmandu valley.

  • @sumanniks
    @sumanniks ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Educational material for today's generation.

  • @Agrinotebook12
    @Agrinotebook12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am a native of Bihar....I stay in Kalimpong ....what a beautiful language and information is presentged in Video....very good...keep it up.

    • @gaarn2672
      @gaarn2672 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Biharis are Lepchas

  • @sherinbhutia2108
    @sherinbhutia2108 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Very informative!! Nepali people from Nepal says Sikkim was part of nepal but now I am clear with video that sikkim was never been part of nepal... Sikkim for Lepchas

    • @anitgurung4195
      @anitgurung4195 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Dozey in his 'Darjeeling Past and Present', writes, 'Prior to the year 1816, the whole the territory known as British Sikkim,belonged to Nepal.
      On April 9, 1975, the Sikkim Parliament announced the king was deposed and declared Sikkim had become part of India

    • @homelesslavie_vlogs9600
      @homelesslavie_vlogs9600 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      ​@@anitgurung4195Sikkim Kingdom is older than Nepal Kingdom or Unification era of Nepal. Before unification Sikkim existed as an independent kingdom just like Limbuwan. Only difference between Limbuwan and Sikkim, is that Sikkim is now with India and Limbuwan is now with Nepal.

    • @anitgurung4195
      @anitgurung4195 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@homelesslavie_vlogs9600 so what if it's older.. That does not matter.. That's not the point of what we actually talking here. Pov - is that it was once a part of nepal(though it was a seperate kingdom) now it's in India.

    • @theempress4920
      @theempress4920 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@anitgurung4195 Never a part of Nepal bro.

    • @anitgurung4195
      @anitgurung4195 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@theempress4920 don't prof ur level.. It was once a part of nepal.. I'm indian , I'm a historian.. I know better then you bruh accept the faxx.. Now it's in India.

  • @subbalabung4298
    @subbalabung4298 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I was aware that Limbu and Lepcha were the indigenous people of Sikkim, but I appreciate you sharing information about the Mangar.

    • @sarita21rana76
      @sarita21rana76 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excuse me actually mangar was the tribe even before these okay stupid😡🤬

    • @leesararana9565
      @leesararana9565 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can't you even shut up for some time mr or miss unknown idiot stupid 😡your face 💩

  • @honeybun6287
    @honeybun6287 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great research focusing on each community .we are all proud of our community and have a huge respect .we shouldn't forget our roots

  • @ongyallepcha5781
    @ongyallepcha5781 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    looking forward for more information. thanks for the videos.

  • @SANGINsubba
    @SANGINsubba ปีที่แล้ว +3

    iam proud to be limbu 🙋‍♂️... knowledge able video thanks bro🌻

  • @sandeeplepcha5605
    @sandeeplepcha5605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thankyou sir somuch jankari ke liye.

  • @takiyamagar1621
    @takiyamagar1621 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you 💗 for giving a nice information about our mangar tribe 💖🙏

  • @sophiyasvlog995
    @sophiyasvlog995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This maybe first video I'm watching someone is highlight our Sikkim history n thank you

  • @pritamlimbu994
    @pritamlimbu994 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Limbuwan was established somewhere around 5A.D. Whereas Sikkim was established in 1642 A. D. from the lands of Limbuwan after the Lho-Mehn-Tshong Tsum treaty. Before Lho-Mehn-Tshong Tsum treaty present day west Sikkim and Darjeeling used to be part of Limbuwan which is used to be known as Chong\ Tshong Limbu kingdom.
    Limbuwan is our home and Nepal is our country. Long Live Limbuwan, Long Live Nepal.

    • @JonathanKumar-zp9fv
      @JonathanKumar-zp9fv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Nepal was created in 17th century 🤣

    • @pritamlimbu994
      @pritamlimbu994 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@JonathanKumar-zp9fv And India was created in 1947 A. D. After Britishers left India 🤣.

    • @JonathanKumar-zp9fv
      @JonathanKumar-zp9fv 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@pritamlimbu994 ok lets see who is the first king who ruled the In Entire Nepal as an United not some warlord from some small town? 😂😂I’ll wait

    • @pritamlimbu994
      @pritamlimbu994 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JonathanKumar-zp9fv The entire Himalayas was already unified by the tribals chiefs of Tibeto Burman people in ancient time even before formation of Nepal and the concept of India. Nepal is the historical name of Present day Kathmandu Valley. Nepal is product of Gorkha empire expansion and Gorkhali King Prithivi Narayan Shah was the first king of unified Nepal and present day India is the product of British empire colonialism. Britishers were the first ruler of present day India. Did I forgot Mughals 🤣🤣🤣??? .

    • @JonathanKumar-zp9fv
      @JonathanKumar-zp9fv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@pritamlimbu994 yes of course tibetan been living there for ever. In 7th century the 33rd king songtsen gampo unified the whole Tibetan areas.all the Himalayan region come under Tibet not Nepal. Mustang, tamang, dolpo all these small kingdom had longer history than your gorka history 😅 Shan came to seen in 17th century and started the idea of Nepal. Ashoka ruled the entire Indian subcontinent from 268 B.C.E to 232 B.C.E. let me know if you want more facts 😀😀

  • @nischalwanem48
    @nischalwanem48 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    You are wrong in that line where you told limbu's couldn't resist gorkhas! Limbuwan was the only kingdom which gorkha empire couldn't won. All total 17 battle's were fought and all those 17battles were won by the limbuwani force. Gorkha couldn't conquer limbuwan so they made a pact treaty with them known as 'salt water treaty' and gave them lal mohar. Gorkha king P.N Shah promised the autonomy of limbuwan and the kipat system

    • @tshosanggurung7038
      @tshosanggurung7038 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What's kipat?

    • @Koromche
      @Koromche ปีที่แล้ว +12

      ​@@tshosanggurung7038 kipat means the original land of origin

    • @sadeepshrestha5123
      @sadeepshrestha5123 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Really any reference?

    • @nischalwanem48
      @nischalwanem48 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@sadeepshrestha5123 If you want proofs then you can read books like ' limbuwan ko dastabej' written by bhagi ingnam or 'the history and culture of kirat people' by Imansingh chemzong

    • @nischalwanem48
      @nischalwanem48 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@tshosanggurung7038 kipat was a land tenure system. Which was in kirat community for hundreds of years ago. Before gorkhas came sen overlord's also gave kipat rights to the Limbu 'raya'(respected chief or kings of a thum)

  • @DeadRose190
    @DeadRose190 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Limbuwan didn’t loose war with Gorkha. There was a treaty between then gorkha king Pritivinarayan Shah and the Limbuwan. In fact Limbuwan was only region which Prithvinarayan shah couldn’t conquer with war.

    • @bhaskarupadhyaya2053
      @bhaskarupadhyaya2053 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It still became part of Gorkha kingdom though. Treaty was in favor of gorkha that means it is winning. Sorry but it’s true

    • @bhaskarupadhyaya2053
      @bhaskarupadhyaya2053 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If limbu had won, it would have been in their favor. But good thing happened now Nepal is strong with big population/land otherwise it might have been part of British empire

    • @tirmairakihda
      @tirmairakihda ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣🤣they loose.

    • @amoeba8460
      @amoeba8460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@bhaskarupadhyaya2053 learn history accurately the army of the shah lost to the british. Lol

    • @bikashsubba4803
      @bikashsubba4803 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bhaskarupadhyaya2053in human history,limbu(kirat)never looses in war,shah had lied and not implemented as treaty,and so many more..

  • @Ekshahangmasubba
    @Ekshahangmasubba ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was grown up listening that lepchas, bhutias and limboo were the indigenous peoples of Sikkim but now only in this video I came to know about magars

  • @SomLepchaofficial
    @SomLepchaofficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    History of Lepchas ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 1st inhabitants, we love our Mayel Lyang

  • @chandrathapa4340
    @chandrathapa4340 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much , very interesting , generation tribe.

  • @ksambahang3122
    @ksambahang3122 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Im proud limboo and thank you Mr. Pankaj Shastri ji🙏👍❤

  • @RamGurung-qd8ku
    @RamGurung-qd8ku ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great work done.highly commendable. Thanks.

  • @prabinlawati-ut9cv
    @prabinlawati-ut9cv ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi can u make one more video about the limbu .

  • @kumarrai4816
    @kumarrai4816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes. You are 95% right in history of Skkim . Thanks. Well come to history doctrines. God blessed you.

  • @amanlimbu8432
    @amanlimbu8432 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Sikkim, Darjeeling and 9 district of Nepal are son of soil of limbuwan respected sir with respect and love ❤️

  • @bharatisharma1333
    @bharatisharma1333 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great research! Hats off to u Sir. Thanks a million for sharing such a wonderful video 🙏🙏🙏💐

  • @lakpatsheringbhutia1522
    @lakpatsheringbhutia1522 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I belong to 'Lho' community that is Bhutia the way you pronounce the local lepcha words that's impressive 👍

  • @vickey171
    @vickey171 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am so thankful to you for such a informative video... N also Today M very much happy to know about my own tribe Manger.. hoping that in future to get more such type of informative videos...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @shankarkhewa8039
    @shankarkhewa8039 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    thanks for the information about limbu. watching you from Australia with my children and showing the history where we came from, and our surname limbu khewa. I will be following you.

    • @Yanktang13
      @Yanktang13 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Khewa hamro goan ma jada hunu cha tapai haru ne chicken khanu hundai na ?

  • @stephaniepaolaklebert9278
    @stephaniepaolaklebert9278 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi! Greetings! I would like to understand the video. Is it possible to have the video with English subtitles? And to inform where did you get all this knowledge? Thank you very much for your attention 😊

  • @paradise9981
    @paradise9981 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you do more research on Mongs ( Mangar/Magars) in sikkim? More details

  • @sonumirdhavlog2583
    @sonumirdhavlog2583 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sikkim की इतनी इतिहास जानकारी देने के लिए आपका बहुत बहुत धन्यवाद भैया जी
    🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @santoshallay5518
    @santoshallay5518 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thankyou for highlighting the ancient history of Sikkim and its tribes
    There were other Mangarjongs too in other parts of Sikkim ....

    • @drukrealityandjourney8063
      @drukrealityandjourney8063 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nope allay migrated from nepal

    • @Tobiraaaama
      @Tobiraaaama 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Magars were from Magarat which was in central nepal But there was areas of each tribes like sunwars,khambus etc in between..So how magars came to sikkim region is a mystery..May be they directly migrated from Tibet long before the chogyal dynasty
      Magars do have a place in folklore of limbus how deusare started..

    • @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg
      @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Tobiraaaamamagar migrated in Sikkim in the the period of sen . Lohang sen ruled during 16 century in vijyapur of limbuwan.and his grand son setupati sen ruled in west Sikkim during that time. Magar were used to be soldier of sen who placed in boarder for security so ,their jong /Killa are found even in Darjeeling and Sikkim region.

  • @chusuddha
    @chusuddha ปีที่แล้ว +2

    so nicely narrated...... long live Himalayan People... Jai Hindh

  • @ongdenvlog
    @ongdenvlog ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jai lepcha ❤❤❤
    Love from Sikkim ❤❤

  • @lakhanshahi3637
    @lakhanshahi3637 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bahut badhiya durlav jankari hai, bhae ji. Dhanyabad......from Kathmandu

  • @tanchohanglawati6568
    @tanchohanglawati6568 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great info but one thing is wrong..limbu did not lose and surrender with prithivi narayan shah..they could not defit limbu so they signed treaty with limbu. Please note that. Thank you.

  • @chaobasinghlimbu9518
    @chaobasinghlimbu9518 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saandaar jaankaari Dhanyabaad🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹🙋🙋🙋👌👌👌

  • @kantathapa162
    @kantathapa162 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Very informative regarding mangars thank you so much

  • @shinesharma7465
    @shinesharma7465 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much sir I was searching that History of Sikkim before chogyal dinesty 1641. 🙏

  • @rolexthamsuhang9593
    @rolexthamsuhang9593 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks a lot Brother for Limbu or Limbuwan History👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @kalamangar6730
    @kalamangar6730 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Proud to be Mangar❤️

    • @pratikking2272
      @pratikking2272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Magars are definity the descandants of Genjhis khan. However, they eventually converted to Hinduism and mixed with Indo- Aryan tribues such as Khas and Tharus that lived in western middle and southern Nepal. Nowdays, Magars often look like Half Indians. The Sens on the other hand were Bengalis and had close connections with Khas, Madhesi and Newar tribes. During the time of the Sens, Kapalis, Mali, Malakar migrated from Bengal to Kathmandu valley.

    • @anugaming2334
      @anugaming2334 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magar holani

    • @sarita21rana76
      @sarita21rana76 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even me😊

  • @thenduplepcha2616
    @thenduplepcha2616 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Woo I am lepcha but I don't even know this much of history thank u so much

  • @suro200
    @suro200 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for mentioning manger🙏 so glad that manger caste is mention in history of Sikkim ❤❤

  • @vikkythapa6256
    @vikkythapa6256 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Very informative video👍👍 proud to be sikkimese mangar😊

    • @thinker-g6j
      @thinker-g6j หลายเดือนก่อน

      St cha?

  • @winx6796
    @winx6796 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow... Learnt so many new things from ur vid about Sikkim... Really interesting and informative ❤️👍

  • @babulalmalu2743
    @babulalmalu2743 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well researched 🎉 though Being from Sikkim & having studied Sikkim history during school days, these part of the history was never there in the syllabus. Appreciate your effort 🎉

  • @sukbahadurrai8110
    @sukbahadurrai8110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thenkyou mee bahut sunnme Achalaga.

  • @sanjaytamang4176
    @sanjaytamang4176 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Sikkim is the land of limbu tribes this is the real world of the history, great reporter thanks bro

  • @kaiii126
    @kaiii126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your research 🙏it's much needed

  • @samulrai2071
    @samulrai2071 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    There is lots name of places called Magar Jung Sikkim Darjeeling and Tarai where Mangar used to rule the area

    • @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg
      @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were the solders of sen . Morang boarder were up to testa. Lohang sen migrated in vijyapur of limbuwan in early16 century from makwanpur and his grand son setupati sen migrated in sikim and ruled in west Sikkim. Here you have to be cleared that magar were kept in boarder area of sikimm region for security during the sen period so the during that time, magar jong/killa were established in darjelling,sikkim region.They dinot ruled that placed .They were just kept their for security of boarder.

    • @samulrai2071
      @samulrai2071 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg you mean say that Mangar were just soilders ? ha ha please be cleared first. History of Mangar queen was not fake , ok

    • @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg
      @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samulrai2071 mm

    • @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg
      @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samulrai2071 I have denied the presence about the Sen and his wife. ,but They only arrived in the region early 16 century and magar as soldier arrived at that time. Find the difference of Sen and magar history..The historical land of magar in west Nepal..there are some community were been living between KTM to sikkim like sunuwar (KTM to sunkhoshi) ,Rai( sunkhoshi to Arun west Nepal ) and limbu( Arun east to west Sikkim) so,how magar became king and ruled in sikkim which ancestors land is west nepal.They arrived at the time of sen in early 16 century not before than that. Do you know who is rudra Sen ,munkunda Sen ,lohang Sen ,sentupati Sen ?? Find the historical background of Sen and relation between above sens which refer to king. There are different larhmohar issued by Sen in limbuwan in 16 century where magar were kept in boarder of chainpur for security even they were kept in darjelling and Sikkim region .(For evidence.i will provide you the pic DM us in FB with the FB name limbusquad.)

    • @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg
      @LIMBUSQUAD-di6pg 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@samulrai2071 yes ,they were a solder.find the historical background of Sen and magar in detail first. Who is lohang Sen ,sentupati Sen ,rudra Sen ,munkunda Sen??you will get the ans.. sen were the king and magar were thier soldier.

  • @letsara7894
    @letsara7894 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In mahabharatas there is mention of kirat and mlech , there is a legend at one time the mech seperated and one group were later known limbus .

  • @anmolthapa7055
    @anmolthapa7055 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Very informative. Feeling proud to be descendent of all three tribes of Sikkim. My father being a Mong (Magar), my mother being a Rong (Lepcha) and my Grandmother being a Chong (limbu) 😊😊😊

    • @naveensharma-dq8xm
      @naveensharma-dq8xm ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vaise bhai Limbu kya bhaav chal rahe hai udhar ko....

    • @anmolthapa7055
      @anmolthapa7055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@naveensharma-dq8xm ?????

    • @shillongmixbag5280
      @shillongmixbag5280 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@naveensharma-dq8xm nimbu ka bhaav poocha raha hai behenchod!!

    • @ankurzvlogz7753
      @ankurzvlogz7753 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tu kiu Thapa likhta hei ,,thapa to hindu ha

    • @anmolthapa7055
      @anmolthapa7055 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@ankurzvlogz7753 If you don't know, it is better to keep yourself quiet.

  • @PrashantLimboo-pg6xs
    @PrashantLimboo-pg6xs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you get all this evidence.
    Can you mentioned any book.

  • @cmpunk5208
    @cmpunk5208 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    And now Limbus,Lepchas,Bhutiyas are losing their glorious identity,their language and culture to the Gorkha identity. It's heartbreaking 💔
    It's not Gorkhaland, it's Lepchaland.

    • @sumitchettri7905
      @sumitchettri7905 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Its DHOTILAND
      ममता BANERJEE LAND
      JOY BANGLA
      JOY HIND
      😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Vijay-i3j9r
      @Vijay-i3j9r ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not lis limbuland

    • @sumitchettri7905
      @sumitchettri7905 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Vijay-i3j9r KIRAT KINGDOM was from KATHMANDU VALLEY to RIVER TISTA.
      KHAMBU should tribe immediately.

    • @amitlepcha5044
      @amitlepcha5044 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sumitchettri7905jealous 🤣🤣

    • @rangoman1815
      @rangoman1815 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Please don't call yourself Gorkhas/Nepalis, if you don't want to... nobody forces yourself to identify as one! I'm from the Rai community and we also have our own tribal language just like countless other Gorkha communities yet we are proud of our Gorkha heritage and this is what binds us together as one. Sikkim is Sikkim but Darjeeling/Kalimpong/Kurseong is Gorkhaland. We've always supported Sikkim but Sikkim doesn't support the people of Darjeeling and Nepal and always throwing dirt on everyone except themselves

  • @govindborkar9191
    @govindborkar9191 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good information of Sikkim state thanks for This sir.

  • @thecord_in
    @thecord_in  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You can be a part of our research team. Follow instagram.com/thecord.in/ to remain updated.

    • @gorkhapriority
      @gorkhapriority ปีที่แล้ว

      Make a video about rai kirati residential of hills kalimpong , Darjeeling and sikkim

    • @sharmilarai7950
      @sharmilarai7950 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not limboo right is limbu which is from kirat dynasty many parts of Nepal and India there is this clan

    • @chomolungmaS
      @chomolungmaS ปีที่แล้ว

      Chumbi valley 😂 chumbi means friend or friendship of boys and chumse or chumme means friend or friendship of girls in limbu language 😂

    • @theempress4920
      @theempress4920 ปีที่แล้ว

      False

  • @kamalthapa5867
    @kamalthapa5867 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hats Off to your research !!! Your hard work is appreciated.

  • @rinchen116
    @rinchen116 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Proud to be lepcha ❤

  • @rubenlepcha2291
    @rubenlepcha2291 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Proud to be a Lepcha ❤️

  • @pinkeysubba4950
    @pinkeysubba4950 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you 🙏

  • @newzonglepcha2050
    @newzonglepcha2050 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you so much Pankaj Shastri for elaborating this history 🙏

  • @sumanthakur9189
    @sumanthakur9189 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow glad to know about sikkim

  • @abishaksubba7485
    @abishaksubba7485 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    We want to learn more about limbo in Sikkim

  • @gajinhangsrong
    @gajinhangsrong ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you

  • @starwarrier479
    @starwarrier479 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One should never forget the blood brotherhood between the tribes ..
    Witness Mt khanchendzonga still standing and will be there till the end of times ..

    • @bramstokes7156
      @bramstokes7156 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blood brotherhood could have been among limbus and Thapas too but it didn't this means that Lepchas were the native tribe of Sikkim. The Lepchas found bhotiyas Bhutias Tibetans as legitimate brothers however the blood brotherhood didn't last long. The peaceful pact by blood was to live smas brothers and sisters as one blood one kin by marriage and also loyalty.

  • @infotentv2545
    @infotentv2545 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for making an informative video., respect from far west Nepal.

  • @apocalypse6422
    @apocalypse6422 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fabulous work, I am a native of Sikkim,
    Even for us it's hard to do this kind of research of our own state,

  • @sabinalimboo1097
    @sabinalimboo1097 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tnks u fr this wonderful massage to spread 🙏♥️ this vdo making me proud 😊❤️🔥

  • @shyaamukaka111
    @shyaamukaka111 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You need to study the history books more than 10 times again, thank you 🙏

  • @Luyneymu
    @Luyneymu ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you sir love from lepcha ❤️

  • @lonmangar3209
    @lonmangar3209 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Glad to hear that the Mangar community is in the History of Sikkim.
    The Mongol term was mentioned in the 8th century and broadly used as an umbrella term for Mongolian tribes after the rise of Genghis Khan.
    Imam Singh Chemjong is wrong about the Mongar term and all the theories he came up with about Mangars being the descendants of Mongols.
    In the history of Nepal, Western Nepal was mentioned as Magwar Bisaya in the scripture of the 10th century.
    And King Aramudi ruled Western Nepal around the 8th century. He was believed to be Mangar as his name sounds quite similar to our language.
    According to our legend, The supreme God " Lon " created Goparung & Separung who are believed to be the ancestor of mankind & master of the spirit world respectively.
    According to belief, we evolved from two types of caves namely Pelma Khar Pu and Yoma Khar Pu.

    • @user-in1yw9ty5t
      @user-in1yw9ty5t ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The cultural and ancestral origin of Magar Thapa is in Nepal. However Thapas migrated to South Sikkim during later chronological order of the history of Sikkim. Mangar isn't clearly defined as what it is.

  • @jaeesharma6507
    @jaeesharma6507 ปีที่แล้ว

    well that's great, ekdum saral para ma the great sikkim ko barey ma jannuu.
    appreciate the effort and content 😮❤

  • @Lmb27Anil
    @Lmb27Anil ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the real history ❤

  • @JonakT
    @JonakT ปีที่แล้ว

    Really informative, glad i found this video and channel! Sir could you also make video on Kamarupan?

  • @HariManger
    @HariManger ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yes! Sikkim Magar history

  • @pemaadenmoo7710
    @pemaadenmoo7710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes very true history, we r proud of Lepcha 🙏

  • @sumitchettri7905
    @sumitchettri7905 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BEFORE RONG,MANGAR,YAKTHUNG CHIEF ruled,there was PALPA SEN KINGDOM which later became MORANG SEN KINGDOM and finally this chief were ruling under SEN KINGDOM.
    SEN AND CHUGAL are rival KINGDOM, later half LIMBUWAN(ARUN TO MECHI) was regained by SEN after BHUTAN CAPTURED SIKKIM area.
    Before PALPA SEN,there was long history of KIRAT from TRISHULI to TISTA.
    Migration of LICHHAVI from BIHAR to KATHMANDU makes KIRAT Weaker and only TISTA to SUNKOSI became KIRAT land and finally KIRATI PEOPLE were divided into YAKTHUNG, KHAMBU,KOINCH,YAKKHA etc.

    • @pratikking2272
      @pratikking2272 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are a brainwashed, Chettri who hates himself to believe in all this bullshit. I bet you are from Sikkim. The real rulers of Nepal were brown skinned people who eventually were forced to move southwards due to the migration of Siberian race from the North Pole.

    • @santoshthada5313
      @santoshthada5313 ปีที่แล้ว

      मगध-मगर magadh people -sanskrit toung magar.

    • @sumitchettri7905
      @sumitchettri7905 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@santoshthada5313 MANGAR=MONGOLOID TRIBE.

    • @SeeeSh-pv5qw
      @SeeeSh-pv5qw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sen didnt actually had fully control over limbuwan . sen acted as overlord but the power was under yakthung ministers. Sen princess were married to the limbu rayas(kings) , my bloodline also has a sen princess. King hangsu raya phago of maiwa had won the hand of the daughter of kamadattasen of the vijayapur

    • @beegirls367
      @beegirls367 ปีที่แล้ว

      You forgot ChaudandhiGadhi

  • @sonamtshering2315
    @sonamtshering2315 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very nice history... Thank you

  • @Yogivlog.0716
    @Yogivlog.0716 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Proud to be Sikkimese Mangar..🤴🤴

    • @suprety1634
      @suprety1634 ปีที่แล้ว

      But still mangars are not given the Schedule tribe status😢

    • @Ahrikshya3590
      @Ahrikshya3590 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They came from west Nepal served as gorkha army and setteld there in Sikkim so,How they are listed in to ST?😅

    • @bhaskarupadhyaya2053
      @bhaskarupadhyaya2053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ahrikshya3590 ST is not based on who came from where. It is based on how disadvantaged the group is, and if they have distinct language/culture/dress/community, etc that makes a tribe.

    • @homelesslavie_vlogs9600
      @homelesslavie_vlogs9600 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@bhaskarupadhyaya2053one must be indigenous first to get the ST status.
      Magars aren't indigenous to Sikkim.

    • @bhaskarupadhyaya2053
      @bhaskarupadhyaya2053 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@homelesslavie_vlogs9600 no bro it’s not based on whether they lived in 10,000 years or 200 years. If so than why Tamangs are in ST?? Tamang’s homeland is central Nepal. They migrated into Sikkim/Darjeeling in last 150-300 years max only.

  • @chongdairbn4470
    @chongdairbn4470 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent history knowledge of Sikkim history... great 👏

    • @meenatamang662
      @meenatamang662 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent history of Sikkim...🙏

  • @sarancherenteginkhasar1319
    @sarancherenteginkhasar1319 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    lepcha migrated from tibet in 3 to 4 century during drigum tsenpo rebellion against shangshung culture bon influnces, he began to supress shangshung bon and perfered his own version of bon.he was killed by persian ambassdor during wrestling match and kingdom disintegrated and rebuilt by second child after conquering yarlung valley he started purgyal empire. tsong(tsang) is tibetan people mentioned in tibetan tribes during songsten gampo period. today are known as limbos and rai. magar are also tibetan tribes . descendants of tibetan armies when tibet controlled till ganges river to bay of bengal after killing brahmin king who killed last pala buddhist king. tamang, gurung, etc are also result of tibetan armies who stay behind to protect tibet border.

  • @sangaydorgee3869
    @sangaydorgee3869 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very good research. I appreciate it. Thank you.

  • @samuellepcha9210
    @samuellepcha9210 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    M lepcha and m proud to be lepcha!!😊

  • @BlackChimpanzeeMeateaters
    @BlackChimpanzeeMeateaters ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the interesting documentaries its like one of the old tv doc shows factual,informative and real research.The limbu people are exonym group their history and origins are still not fully understood their origins are also mentioned how they lived in himalayan region’s history which is older than rig vedas or puranas or the kiratas kirats means the victorious ones its origin is said they got this title after defeating the dravidian invaders in the northern india .i did not know lepchas and limbu shared close ties because in lepcha cultures lepcha language and people are directly descandant from gods and they share amazing history one of most sophisticated history in asia.i have heard an folk story and documentary about how limbu or kirat people came to be its said in ancient time thousands of years ago must be 2000 or more maybe older so in inner mongolia(ancient history of china)when south china was still south tibetan kings place and Inner Mongolia was big china . There was poor ethnics indigenious tribes there they were peaceful loving people(kirats or the limbus)they inter mingled with tibetians then later tibet was attacked by mongols, mongols won war against them they werent as brutal but tibetian somehow still hold grudges against them still today. now the next part it is said that in ancient kiratdesh was underattacked again this time by other groups gurkhas(aka hindu bahuns )and to save the people of kirat and blood kins in kiratdesh the mongols wanted to help and they sent out brave people and those were (kirats or limbus) limbus group are mixed of sino tibetians and mixed bhote ,bhutia which are known as sherpas. Limbu has historical ties with ancestors worshipping they are share similarities related to lechas,mongolians. Siberians also worships ancestors but limbus dont share anything close anything than some strikingly similarities with sakha people culture. I think limbu people came to be because they are thankful to their ancestors wisdom and they worship niwa or nuwa an ancient real life religious leader which is belived to hold super powers and earth godess and she could either be from Mongolia or russia , south russia used to be borders vessels with mongolia and shared brotherhood kinship

  • @sharmistharai5518
    @sharmistharai5518 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your research work is very interesting & based on facts .👍👏
    There are some medias who without going through thorough study misled the people & facts .
    More would like to watch your research work on Sikkim,Darjeeling,Doars ,Bhutan & Nepal 😊

  • @bishalpun7041
    @bishalpun7041 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love from nepal ❤️🇳🇵
    And thank you so much for information and I am also mangar(Magar)

  • @bcimemas
    @bcimemas ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bro why aren't you saying that limbu and Magars are Nepali tribe.
    And the rivers and districts you are talking about all belong to Nepal.