Very helpful. I remember reading years ago that our hearing is sensitive to ratios, i.e., we are good at detecting if 1/4 of a second is consistently twice as fast as 1/2 a second even if we can’t tell if either is accurate.
Found this video only after purchasing the camera with weakend light seals and the problems with film advancing. Got it from repairs already, but thanks for the vid!
Thanks for commenting - always appreciated. The bellows are usually very reliable, it’s unusual to find issues. But that said, yes, it’s a good idea to check them. Visually inspection can be a bit hit and miss but a film test, as suggested, will show any problems.
Glad I found this video. I'm running into an issue where my film lever won't advance. Took the whole camera apart and, without the film back attached to the rest of the camera, the lever advances. I was able to load the film and advance to '1'. Once I attach it to the body, ensuring that the dark slide is out, the shutter release is not turned off and it's set to single and not multiple exposure, nothing. I'm able to fire the shutter release and cock the lever, but not advance the film.
I have a RB67 proSD, hardly ever use it. Bought a new 180 KL lens for it at the time. It probably needs servicing, good place is Sendean cameras, been around for years in London.
I got to borrow an RB67 ProS, the only real issue seemed to be the film back was perpetually in already exposed mode. That is, the only way to actuate the shutter was to take the safety off on the double exposure lever on the film back. And the only way to advance film was to put that back and then use the little metal tab to release the film advance lock manually. Even the dark slide safety catch didn't work when the back was off, it could just be pulled out. Otherwise, it worked fine. Hopefully for the owner, it's just the film back.
Just returning a lens that looked fine just looking through it. But putting a flashlight behind it, an interior surface was completely coated from edge with something foggy. It didn't go away in a day or 2 so wasn't condensation and was too splotchy to be that.
Great info cheers for this. A workmate gave me a loan of her RB67 she was gonna bin it til I stupidly told her what they’re worth now it’s very much a loan until I no doubt make her an offer. I checked the camera out all seems in good order. My first shot with it seemed ok but no way could I advance the film I checked the usual interlocks all were good I finally found a wee slider switch on the centre top of the film back I tried this and the red flag popped up in the counter window this allows me to advance I had to follow this procedure for the entire film. I’m guessing this is a fault on the back as from my understanding the red flag pops at the end of each exposure to indicate the frame is exposed etc. anyway fingers crossed the images come out ok. Liked and subbed mate regards Paul 📷❤️📷
Sounds like something may be sticking? A common issue when they haven’t been used for a while. Get it serviced and have the light seals replaced. Will serve you well for years!
2 years late, I know but... if you use a filmback from the original RB67 Pro, that is the normal procedure. If it is a Pro-S back (there is a Pro-S logo on the back), it is faulty
cheers for the info mate. Been a long time since I've used the RB i've been addicted to a 6x9 folder. great quality and easier on the back haha. @@SatumangoTheGreat
Great video thanks! I just bought an entire RB67 s kit with 7 lenses. But I just realized all lenses came with choked shutter and might have been stored this way for years. Does this mean trouble or does it not necessarily cause issues?
You’ll probably be fine. If you do have any issues they’ll need servicing, nothing more. If you’re using the equipment professionally a service will be a good idea anyway.
Hello! So I bought an rb 67 pro sd with 3 lenses, a waist level finder, and the heavy view finder for $150 total. The body doesn’t work I took it too a shop and they said I’d need to be serviced and it seems expensive so I bought the original rb 67. I have the Rb 67 pro s backs and the pro sd body that doesn’t work. Would all this be compatible? Also I understand there’s a few differences with one being portraits. What would I need to do on the original rb67 to make sure I frame my photo right?
I ordered an RB67 on Ebay recently and, while the seller says everything works and that it's in near mint condition, if it does need to be serviced then what are my options? I assume I'd need someone who's more of a film camera specialist to potentially fix and replace anything. Where would I look for a repair shop?
Ask the seller about the service history. If it hasn’t been serviced in the last ten years it will need doing (the light seals in particular will need to be replaced). Yes, you will need to find a repair company that knows about film cameras.
I found a mint condition rb67 and lens, looks like they’ve never been used at all, I’m wondering if this is worth the extra cost as compared to one that was used more but potentially serviced throughout its lifetime? Whereas the mint condition likely has sat in the same position for 40 years, never been serviced. Can that create problems?
Yes. Without question. Anything mechanical needs to be used. If a Mamiya RB sat unused for decades it probably wouldn’t work. BUT if the glass is clean it would be worth investing in a full service.
I have one with 90mm lens and its shutter works but with a bit of delay. It is nearly like semi mirror up function ;) It fires and seems to be keeping times but after about 3 seconds after pressing shutter. Did you see this problem before?
Hey there, I just came across your video and wanted to get your opinion on an issue I'm having with a borrowed RB67. I noticed in your video that when you started to check to make sure the leaf shutter was accurately operating/corresponding to the correct shutter speed that when you pressed the shutter button on the RB67, the leaf shutter immediately activated. On the RB67 I'm currently using, there's about a half a second delay from the time I press the shutter releast button on the camera body to when the leaf shutter activates. This delay is consistent no matter what aperture and or shutter speeed I'm at and it seems like the shutter speeds all seem like they are accurate to the specific time I dial the lens to. Would you have any ideas as to what could be causing this issue?
It’s a common issue with the mechanical Mamiya RB cameras. The body and lens need servicing. Also, working on the assumption the camera hasn’t been overhauled recently, the foam light baffles will need to be replaced on the body and back.
Any tips on where to get this camera serviced should it need it? I live in the southern US so could ship to NYC if needed but trying to assess how difficult it would be to get repaired.
I'm in the UK and so I don't have any firsthand experience of US repairers. That said, the RB is a relatively simple mechanical camera so any good repairer that specialises in film-based equipment should be able to help. Perhaps ask on some US-based Mamiya discussion forums?
The good thing about mechanical cameras is that any competent local repairer with film camera experience should be able to help. Obviously check online reviews.
Just got my Mamiya RB67 and i can safely say God approved of this purchase because your video shows up lol
Hope you enjoy - Mamiya RBs are fantastic cameras.
Thank you. Dusting off my mothers Mamiya RB67 with plans to add a digital back. This was very helpful. Thank you.
Glad it helped
Very helpful. I remember reading years ago that our hearing is sensitive to ratios, i.e., we are good at detecting if 1/4 of a second is consistently twice as fast as 1/2 a second even if we can’t tell if either is accurate.
Thanks - very interesting. Something I've not heard before.
Interesting- thanks
Thanks so much for producing this segment. Really appreciate it.
You’re welcome
Found this video only after purchasing the camera with weakend light seals and the problems with film advancing. Got it from repairs already, but thanks for the vid!
Mamiya cameras are fantastic. Keep them serviced and they’ll last forever. Thanks for commenting.
Great video hit on Great points
Missed checking the condition of the bellows for cracks and rips
Thanks for commenting - always appreciated. The bellows are usually very reliable, it’s unusual to find issues. But that said, yes, it’s a good idea to check them. Visually inspection can be a bit hit and miss but a film test, as suggested, will show any problems.
That was exactly what I needed! I'm about to go and check one of this beauty tomorrow and this video was super helpful :)
Glad it was useful.
Thank you sir, I have been interested in one of these for a few months now.
Hope it was useful - thanks.
Glad I found this video. I'm running into an issue where my film lever won't advance. Took the whole camera apart and, without the film back attached to the rest of the camera, the lever advances. I was able to load the film and advance to '1'. Once I attach it to the body, ensuring that the dark slide is out, the shutter release is not turned off and it's set to single and not multiple exposure, nothing. I'm able to fire the shutter release and cock the lever, but not advance the film.
When was it last serviced? Get a good Mamiya repairer to take a look. It doesn’t sound like anything serious.
I have a RB67 proSD, hardly ever use it. Bought a new 180 KL lens for it at the time. It probably needs servicing, good place is Sendean cameras, been around for years in London.
Thanks for commenting.
Super useful video, thank you for making it and sharing!
Glad it was useful - thanks
I got to borrow an RB67 ProS, the only real issue seemed to be the film back was perpetually in already exposed mode.
That is, the only way to actuate the shutter was to take the safety off on the double exposure lever on the film back. And the only way to advance film was to put that back and then use the little metal tab to release the film advance lock manually.
Even the dark slide safety catch didn't work when the back was off, it could just be pulled out.
Otherwise, it worked fine. Hopefully for the owner, it's just the film back.
Probably just needs servicing. Mechanical Mamiya cameras will work forever if regularly maintained.
Just returning a lens that looked fine just looking through it. But putting a flashlight behind it, an interior surface was completely coated from edge with something foggy. It didn't go away in a day or 2 so wasn't condensation and was too splotchy to be that.
It sounds like a coating fault. Not uncommon with older lenses. If it’s minor it might not affect performance but it will affect value.
Thanks! Any chance on getting a buying guide for the Pentax 67 and RZ67?
Both cameras are on the list!
Great info cheers for this. A workmate gave me a loan of her RB67 she was gonna bin it til I stupidly told her what they’re worth now it’s very much a loan until I no doubt make her an offer. I checked the camera out all seems in good order. My first shot with it seemed ok but no way could I advance the film I checked the usual interlocks all were good I finally found a wee slider switch on the centre top of the film back I tried this and the red flag popped up in the counter window this allows me to advance I had to follow this procedure for the entire film. I’m guessing this is a fault on the back as from my understanding the red flag pops at the end of each exposure to indicate the frame is exposed etc. anyway fingers crossed the images come out ok. Liked and subbed mate regards Paul 📷❤️📷
Sounds like something may be sticking? A common issue when they haven’t been used for a while. Get it serviced and have the light seals replaced. Will serve you well for years!
@@WorldwideCameraExchange Deffo mate cheers
2 years late, I know but... if you use a filmback from the original RB67 Pro, that is the normal procedure. If it is a Pro-S back (there is a Pro-S logo on the back), it is faulty
cheers for the info mate. Been a long time since I've used the RB i've been addicted to a 6x9 folder. great quality and easier on the back haha. @@SatumangoTheGreat
@@paultaylorphotography9499 definitely easier on the back :-D
Great video thanks! I just bought an entire RB67 s kit with 7 lenses. But I just realized all lenses came with choked shutter and might have been stored this way for years. Does this mean trouble or does it not necessarily cause issues?
You’ll probably be fine. If you do have any issues they’ll need servicing, nothing more. If you’re using the equipment professionally a service will be a good idea anyway.
@@WorldwideCameraExchange thank you so much for your reply - I will check them as you have shown and maybe have the entire kit serviced 👍
your voice is really nice dude!
Hello! So I bought an rb 67 pro sd with 3 lenses, a waist level finder, and the heavy view finder for $150 total. The body doesn’t work I took it too a shop and they said I’d need to be serviced and it seems expensive so I bought the original rb 67. I have the Rb 67 pro s backs and the pro sd body that doesn’t work. Would all this be compatible? Also I understand there’s a few differences with one being portraits. What would I need to do on the original rb67 to make sure I frame my photo right?
Should be compatible. Personally I’d get the Pro SD body serviced - it’s worth the investment (unless it’s heavily worn).
I ordered an RB67 on Ebay recently and, while the seller says everything works and that it's in near mint condition, if it does need to be serviced then what are my options? I assume I'd need someone who's more of a film camera specialist to potentially fix and replace anything. Where would I look for a repair shop?
Ask the seller about the service history. If it hasn’t been serviced in the last ten years it will need doing (the light seals in particular will need to be replaced). Yes, you will need to find a repair company that knows about film cameras.
Great video
Hope it was useful - thank you
Hello! I just bought the RB67 Pro SD and when its on the multiple exposure, it fires but when this is off it does not fire. Any tips?
Check the film is loaded correctly. If it is then you may need to get a repairer to check it out.
Thank you
Hope it was useful!
I found a mint condition rb67 and lens, looks like they’ve never been used at all, I’m wondering if this is worth the extra cost as compared to one that was used more but potentially serviced throughout its lifetime? Whereas the mint condition likely has sat in the same position for 40 years, never been serviced. Can that create problems?
Yes. Without question. Anything mechanical needs to be used. If a Mamiya RB sat unused for decades it probably wouldn’t work. BUT if the glass is clean it would be worth investing in a full service.
I have one with 90mm lens and its shutter works but with a bit of delay. It is nearly like semi mirror up function ;) It fires and seems to be keeping times but after about 3 seconds after pressing shutter. Did you see this problem before?
Yes, it’s most likely a sign that the body needs to be serviced. Mamiya cameras are superb - definitely worth doing.
If ur buying from eBay and it says that the camera is cla’d and in near mint condition those r great signs right?
Yes. I’d ask to see the service documents to confirm exactly what work has been done.
Hey there, I just came across your video and wanted to get your opinion on an issue I'm having with a borrowed RB67. I noticed in your video that when you started to check to make sure the leaf shutter was accurately operating/corresponding to the correct shutter speed that when you pressed the shutter button on the RB67, the leaf shutter immediately activated. On the RB67 I'm currently using, there's about a half a second delay from the time I press the shutter releast button on the camera body to when the leaf shutter activates. This delay is consistent no matter what aperture and or shutter speeed I'm at and it seems like the shutter speeds all seem like they are accurate to the specific time I dial the lens to. Would you have any ideas as to what could be causing this issue?
It’s a common issue with the mechanical Mamiya RB cameras. The body and lens need servicing. Also, working on the assumption the camera hasn’t been overhauled recently, the foam light baffles will need to be replaced on the body and back.
Any tips on where to get this camera serviced should it need it? I live in the southern US so could ship to NYC if needed but trying to assess how difficult it would be to get repaired.
I'm in the UK and so I don't have any firsthand experience of US repairers. That said, the RB is a relatively simple mechanical camera so any good repairer that specialises in film-based equipment should be able to help. Perhaps ask on some US-based Mamiya discussion forums?
what can I do if the lens is stuck on the body?
It probably isn’t serious but you’ll need to get it checked out by a repairer. It might be worthwhile getting the camera serviced too.
Does anyone know the exact discontinuation date of the Mamiya RB Pro-SD?
Late 1990s. I can’t be more precise than that. Maybe try Google?
Any recommendations for service - CLA - if needed?
The good thing about mechanical cameras is that any competent local repairer with film camera experience should be able to help. Obviously check online reviews.
very, very useful. Thanks
Glad it was helpful - thanks for commenting