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3:05 “Even Magic Burst gets armored past 300%.”
Geez, how strong is this guy?!
I thought this was changed after the patch.
@@cullenhutchison6528 no, it just was fixed to hit more consistently
He's not strong, he's tough
Bro I was in complete shock when me and my friend's played and I bowser bombed through hero's magic burst
@@d3hybrid713 That's insane.
Melee: Completely useless
Brawl: just horrible
Smash 4: slightly above average
Ultimate: godlike
Pretty much
Godlike? You mean tough guy?
A tier at best
When I played Bowser in brawl, I wrecked with him.
Bowser has the best comeback factor in gane despite Joker and Lucario literally having it as a part of their design
Comeback might not be the best word for it.
With Bowser, you just have a different mindset into the life of a stock.
As Bowser, you're kinda resigned to that 60% combo each stock, so you just don't lose sleep over it. You use that to study the opponent, maybe look for openings to armor through something, and generally get the opponent used to the idea of totally kicking your ass so hard that they forget that 60% on Bowser is still basically mid percent.
Also, no matter how many times people say it, people continue to be genuinely surprised by just how fast Bowser is.
So, it's not so much a comeback, but more like patience and taking advantage of the opponents mental state? From the outside, maybe they look the same, but it's not like Joker or Lucario where they actually need to make that comeback. Bowser is completely happy sitting at 60-120% for the rest of the game, since you can't really combo him at that point, and you're gonna lose neutral eventually.
All this is pointless against characters with counters, mind. If they knock Bowser offstage, it's a chore and a half to get back.
0/10, remove all counters, Bowser has approved this message. DK agrees.
Indeed, rage is busted on Bowser.
Living to nearly 200% against Villager who was at 85% before getting a Flying Slam and taking the game is amazing.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Lucario rewards players for losing
Little Mac with his ko punch and insane kill power, plus the fact you can easily get gimped early so you’ll need to comeback
@@SoggyWafflesXpand the rage mechanic doesn't reward players for losing? Aura and rage function pretty similarly, so I'd say lucario can be terrifying at high damage because both effects stack
In still find it crazy that it took 4 smash games to make Bowser a genuinely good and well balanced character.
You mean four, right? He wasn't in the original Smash Bros.
@@ShawFujikawa Right
Ig 3DS counts since it came out earlier than the Wii U version & had more patches overall.
And sadly, they haven't applied the lessons learned to the other heavies (well, a little, but clearly not enough).
Don't worry, the games still super young & most lower tiered characters have seen quite the buffs
Every time I play with a new main you end up putting out one of these shortly after
I love it
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-Jeff
"I played Bowser for the first time. I wish I never won" Creepypasta
Your videos used to scare me when I was like 9
I had no idea Side-B's damage output was based on distance. That's really good knowledge to have.
I’m pretty sure it’s not. I’ve maines Bowser since the game’s release and watched lots of tournaments and I’ve never once seen Flying Slam do more if they fall further.
@@Moakmeister I have as well. Looking at it in Training Mode, it does change the damage dealt, though it's very slight between grabbing from the top platform and landing below and vice versa. The knockback seems to be a lot more affected by the fall distance however, which is the main part that matters in the case of this move. I've always found zooming to the top platform to be inconsistent at best and unreliable at worst, and this'd be a good explanation as to why. Though it also seems like the move stales pretty quickly, which is something I've figured for a while now. The long and short of it is that it seems like both play small parts in a bigger situation.
it literally shows it doing extra damage in the video tho
Bowser has come a long way from being the ugly low tier punching bag he was in melee to the high tier tank he is in Ultimate. Truly an evolution.
Edit: Down tilt can also trip sometimes. Just thought I'd bring that up. Ether way excellent video. Your editing style is some of the cleanest I have come across. Keep it.
I remember being in college and hearing some of my fellow students talking about smash (brawl), using advanced terminology. "Finally", I thought, "someone who will challenge me!". Ended up asking who they mained (Pikachu and Olimar, respectively), and they asked who I mained. I told them Bowser, and that we should all play together soon.
They ended up coming over to play, and I annihilated them. They started coming over weekly so I could help them practice and learn, and later told me they when I said I mained Bowser they thought I wasn't going to be worth fighting, and were very surprised when I trounced them.
Part of me misses shocking people with the "low tier punching bag", but I still get that feeling with the other heavyweights so I guess it all works out. Wish they'd apply the lessons learned with Bowser over the last two decades to the other heavies, tho.
I can't help but feel that ALL the big characters that are combo food and are based on bosses should have some form of tough guy as well (Ridley being the biggest example).
Even though redesign bowser is a million times better, I can't help but miss the old design sometimes. I miss the... whatever you call Bowser's old run animation.
Dry Bowser wen?
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 yeah I agree. All his A attack changes are less stylistic while being a lot more functional.
@@nousername191 yeah. You'd think they'd have figured out all the heavies needed this stuff, but apparently not.
7:22 I'm embarrassed at how hard I laughed at this. . .
"Now we have Bowsers down smash, or as I like to call it: Wolf's down smash"
Bro, I'm right there with you, lmao. Even I call it that on occasion. They're basically the same thing in every regard, kek.
New characters seem to have that a lot, unfortunately.
Half the new characters have Pit's Nair, Mii Swordfighter's Fair made a few rounds, and so on.
Wolf's D-Smash is honestly just a cousin to Falcon's.
As a bowser main this should prove to be very useful , thanks mate.
Trubbish I’m a ganondorf main I suck at smash ultimate cuz I only play in undocked mode so yeah and I need a vid like dis on ganondorf need all the data and info on him
I main boozer and Ganon
"And now we have bowser's down smash, or as i like to call it: Wolf's down smash"
Wait, Nintendo got a new President? But it's still Bowser, he looks and sound like him too!
Meanwhile dk has most of the same disadvantages except with most of his moves negative on hit at low percent, the opponent might as well have tough guy ):
At least DK’s dtilt is kinda busted
Yea I'm a bowser main, yea I'm carried
Zpy pretty sure we call get carried by out charters, expect sheik mains
@@spiralanimations7736 There are other characters that are high risk, require immense skill, and force you to work much harder than most than just Sheik. She might be the most extreme case though.
It’s ze spy!
@@spiralanimations7736 Bowser and Sheik main here 🙋♂️
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Ice Climbers?!
Thanks for the visual summary (and link) of tough guy armor - years of playing without it means I don't find myself using the mechanic except by happenstance, but it is nice to know. I am surprised and disappointed the other heavies haven't gotten more armor to compensate for being combo fodder. It would help Ridley, DK, K Rool, and others a lot.
Been maining Bowser since Melee....each game he's gotten significant buffs that really help his overall game. Can be tough to go back to an earlier game because the further you go back, the less viable moves you have at your disposal. I miss surprising people with a steamroll from a low tier, as well as some of his old style (headsmash, shell roll ledge attack, old bair, etc), but I'm really glad for all of his buffs.
In ultimate, every single attack he has is useful multiple times per match. Long gone are the days of Melee UpB and Fair spam.
I strongly disagree with your analysis of dtilt - yes, it has been gutted compared to 4, but it still is a very easy, strong ledge guard, as you can camp back a little bit and get just about everything but a jump. Much easier to reliably land over other moves, great for when you don't know what your opponent is going to do. Further, I struggle to recall a time an opponent slipped out of it early, and I have more time in Bowser in each Smash game than most people do in Smash period.
Upsmash is so good, it cannot be stressed it enough. Like wonderwing for opponents trying to land - it really sucks going back to Brawl and Melee and not having the invincibility.
Upair is a good kill option, and should be used any time the opponent goes high and is over 80% or so. It lacks the old-school power from Melee and Brawl, but its a lot faster, so I guess is a wash. I actually liked the old, slower one better, but again this is a great punish for opponents that like to stay high, so should be thrown out liberally.
While the old dair continues the trend of more stylish, less functional moves, the new one is great for landing, and has fantastic coverage. Definitely a great way to punish opponents trying to combo you or stop you from landing. Nice buff to Bowser's air game.
Fire breath is excellent for racking up lots of damage. I find a short hop into it (I call it Firefall) is a very reliable way to catch people with it, even people who are expecting it. As you said, using it to rack up damage on the ledge is one of its best uses.
I know it is strange, but UpB is one of his worst moves in Ultimate IMO - a far cry from Melee and Brawl where it was his best. It still does what it always has, but with the nerfs over the years and substantial buffs everywhere else you have many other options to deal with pressure.
With the scoop hit box addition, Down B went from useless to very powerful, a great punish on the ground as it comes out extremely fast and usually breaks shields, leading to a free Fsmash. If they don't shield it, then you either get lots of damage or a kill. As for the air, it is still good, but mainly as a mix up to dair if you need to switch up timing.
I remember people complaining about Slam replacing Klaw back in Brawl, but I've always thought it was a substantial upgrade, and in Ultimate you should be using it constantly. It does good damage and is one of Bowser's best kill moves. The knockback is dependent on how you land - if you are going backwards, you'll send the enemy more horizontally, and if you are going forwards, much more vertically. Usually, I'll move backward during the rise, then move forward during the drop to kill off top, especially if I can land on a platform up high (best used for BF's top platform). Hard to go wrong with this move.
One thing you didn't mention is that Bowser plays best at higher percents - at low percents he is juggled, but because he can survive so long, you get rage and keep it for quite some time, which means that you find yourself wanting to be in the 120% range for the extra kill power.
Overall, good analysis!
K Rool does have armor BTW on any move that uses his belly.
Nice analysis on the analysis😅 I do think the down tilt can be used as a decent mix up and kill at high percent so on that I agree but do you think it's more than that
@@d3hybrid713 Thank you!
If both hits connect, dtilt does more damage than ftilt, and while it isn't a killing move, the shorter knock back allows for chase/combos, so it is better for racking up damage.
That said, by far and away its strongest suit is how easy it is to land. It has great range, comes out fast, and stays out for awhile, so it will catch spot dodgers every time. It is a really spammable damage option imo. I use it as much as ftilt, and more than uptilt (uptilt is good, but upsmash is just ridiculously so).
@@T4nkcommander true also it is a decent poke on shield but you might get punished for doing it but no "GUARANTEES" oh yea also while I do think that bowser should have the most super armor and tough guy type moves the other heavys deserve maybe a little more armor than they get
Nice to hear a second opinion so I appreciate your lengthy comment, and I agree with most of it :)
Just a couple of points I disagree with:
_"UpB is one of his worst moves in Ultimate IMO"_
That's literally impossible since it's his fastest OoS option, and therefore the ONLY way to punish your opponent in many situations!
_"one thing you didn't mention is that Bowser plays best at higher percents"_
He referred to this a few times, like here at 2:02 (he didn't mention rage *specifically* but it wasn't necessary imo, since that's a universal thing and not unique to Bowser)
The scripts you are writing are getting better, the words and analogies were really well chosen this time, more so than before!
I think it'd be cool if you dedicated a segment of your videos to significant matchup information. You obviously don't have to go over every possible matchup, just the most notable characters and moves that will make you adapt your play style and strategy
I try to allude to that in the versatility section of the grade
I just miss his upsmash going through counters. The sweet look on all those anime waifishes was priceless.
It still can
@@PBLKGaming No it doesn't.
You are dumb
@@Tothro no u
Was literally just thinking about this series.. good stuff!
Amazing contant man. I been wanting to try this for so long but never did because i fear it wouldnt do well since i feel people would only listen to pros. But this video is awesome, youve inspired me. Good stuff man!
Excellent analysis, definitely learned some things! I never knew him having such bad dodges contributed to such a terrible disadvantage state. Only thing I could see being covered a bit further is down air, specifically hurtbox shifting to break combos/striings
Instantly subcribed fist one of your vids that I watched and i apreciate you man.
These videos always get me amped up to play the character you’re covering.
This was amazing, so much effort! Great video.
Very good analysis. Definitely subscribing.
Awesome analysis! Complete and interesting!
Bowser has won my heart in this game
Fun video and great analysis! Def deserve more subs.
I love the way you list which game the moves originated from, it's a really nice touch.
This video is awesome! Excellent guide excellent quality
Great video but bowser isn’t the heaviest in smash history . Dk from 64 is . His weight value is 138
Interesting to know 👍
@@YourAverageLink I saw the adjusted version . I have zero clue about the original numbers .
That first skit with BOWSER was all I needed to see to hit the like button.
Great and entertaining analysis as always!
6:28 Bowser can now kick lasers out of existance
Thank you for helping me reinforce certain moves or combos that can destroy opponents
One of my favourite videos of yours , gets a redo ?? Oh boy !!
Thank you for giving me so much information
Your analysis videos are always succinct and informative, good work! Can't wait for you to get to mah gurl, Wii Fit. :D
jesus the mario and luigi bowsers inside story finale music just POPS
D:
Love this channel!
holy moly that was really well made
"Loving father."
*I stare into the camera with a blank expression as clips of the koopalings and Jr getting killed and horribly injured plays.*
I don't see anyone else adopting and raising them
@@PBLKGaming I also don't see anyone else giving children castles they have to guard from a Man strong enough to level buildings.
But in all honesty, just me poking fun.
Kooplings aren't his kids anymore. That got retconned
Wow. You're covering all of the characters I main. (G&W, R.O.B, and now Bowser)
Edit: Correcting auto correct.
I use upair to catch jumps or double-jumps when Fair won't KO.
Bowser suffers from somewhat lopsided matchups, in that a small handful of characters are able to prey on Bowser's weaknesses to an almost crippling degree (in particular his disadvantage and recovery. Looking at you, Lucina...), which I feel gives him a rough time in tournaments without a secondary or otherwise dual main to back him up. Thankfully, the number of characters that make Bowser's life quite so dramatically difficult are relatively few, so when you have those most painful matchups covered, I think Bowser proves to be very strong and reliable.
Of course, this is coming from someone who doesn't play in tournaments, I'm just going off my limited personal online play experience, spectating and logical theory.
He's also very accessible on a technical level. As someone who knows himself to mess up inputs on more technical characters all the time, and with Bowser being a character who puts way more emphasis on decision-making and awareness given his risk/reward-factor, I feel Bowser is right up my alley. He's my best character by *far.* It's not even close. And I'm glad, because I really enjoy playing Bowser, too.
Oh, and on the note of D-tilt, I think it has slightly better reach than F-tilt? ...That's about all the merit I can find for this move, unless you have trouble angling F-tilt for some reason.
Amazing videos dood, I just got confused with FAF and had to google
I have a terminology video for that
This is so cool thanks
I love using Bowser's down smash as a ledge guard. I've ended many matches with it, it's powerful if you can't use forward smash.
I think fire breath is actually the best option purely for damage out of a jab lock, even over Down B. Dsmash will kill / send them offstage but its kind of rare to get into missed tech scenarios at later percents with this character I guess
Please cover Yoshi. I main bowser and yoshi, this video is top tier quality with the color-coordinated frame data.
Down tilt is actually better for two framing on stages with slants at the edges like yoshi’s story. And bowser bomb deals more dmg than down smash in a jab reset as long as there isn’t a platform in the way
Bowsers ledge get up attack is the best also, extreme range and deceptive frame data
Bowser's tough guy armor actually feels like it could be a general mechanic. It's very intuitive that a chararcter that's very heavy can power through weak attacks.
i remember when ddd fsmash broke shield
This video explains bowser perfectly
It's been a liiiiiiitle bit longer than half a year lmao
Bowsers combo good but if you don’t finish your food the food will finish you!
YEEESSSSSS ITS HERE
I love Bowser, and your first vid hyped me even more for the game.
Knowing he's also a playstyle I like on other games (Mostly League of Legends ok) being High-Risk-High-Reward (Main Fiora, playing a lot of Tristana if anyone know the game enought to see what I mean by HR² on them).
I switched a bit to Pokemon Trainer because the mix of playstyle but the overhaul Sq being damager, Ivy being kill and get-of-me + let-me-land, and some char cheezy side B, you make me want my Bowser Amiibo even more T-T (buy in your local store you cheaters)
"This is bowser, we need to kill a FOURTY DAMNIT." - PushBlock 5:54
At low percent you can land an up throw into up special. If you time it right and land all of the hits, it can do a lot of damage
Correct. But it's only about 4-5% more than you air or fair. And you are left in a bad spot afterwards
My personal favourite character and my main main
I fucking love this character.
The shieldbreak kills at 0% not at 30%, because you can damage them with fire. Also I like the spike hitbox of down b because you can easily spike people at the ledge with it if they do a jump get up
you say belly flop and flying slam but those are mate presses my fella
My body is ready
17:09 That is... definitely a saying I'm unfamiliar with.
5:48 "Big- ... Wait..."
My boi bowser!
18:30
Sakurai taught me how to count to 31 on one hand I guess thats true
Me: Gets here a day after the upload.
Also me: Geez-God! How'd you get here so FAST?
People who say first: *speedrunner noises*
Nice reference
Best bowser incarnation, pretty awesome they changed down smash to an actually useful move.
Random fact about Bowser he’s canonically got the highest lifting strength of anyone on the roster
Some people say it’s Steve which is wrong,
A full inventory of shulker boxes and enchanted golden apples weighs 11,000,000 tons,
In Bowser’s inside story he throws a cannonball that’s at least 15ft across at 100meters per second which would take at least 48,000,000 tons of force
Bowser can lift 60 Burj Califas (the tallest building in the world)
Thank you!!!!
I'd love to See a Dr.Mario video
Pro tip: Bowser's side-B kills on battlefield earliest when landing on the middle platforms, due to the launch angle.
That is not correct in smash ultimate. I address that issue
How Bowser's gotten reworked is how I want them to rework the original 12 characters, tbh.
Inkling inks rapped jab, Bowser laughs then forward smash
wow I feel kinda dumb for not knowing some of his moves have their own armour, makes sense now but I always just assumed it was the tough guy ability! Does this move armour stack with tough guy? Actually, does it even matter if it does since tough guy is always active it makes no difference right? hmmm...
Only if a move did more than the 4-10% of damage but less than 19KB points. Magic burst is all that comes to mind
Pushblock: Bowser is the fastest superweight in the game
Charizard: Am i joke to you?
Run speed isn't everything
Yeah. But bowser dosen't have:
Fastest air speed of super heavies.
Fastest walk speed of super heavies
Fastest inital dash of super heavies
Nor the fastest air acceleration of super heavies.
Meaning he isn't fastest in those categories but in overall all things compained then it is the fastest super heavy
@@jalapeno9405 correct. Best overall stats
I also play as red Bowser!
Honestly, getting Bowser to 60-120% is just doing him a favor since it makes all future combo follow up options significantly harder to follow up ON, since he flies too far away. Killing Bowser is a brutal task, and he takes an unreal amount of punishment, whereas he can end one of your stocks at 40% in two or less hits lmao.
I may be a Hero main, but go ahead and analyze Banjo-Kazoii. Because for Hero, you'll have to account for the fact that his special moves cost mp, and if you run out, your almost helpless.
Also I found out while messing around in training mode with hero that uncharged side b has a hit box if you don't have any mp. It's a quick sword sharp slap. It's funny, it's useless, but it's still technically a move. Also, Hero would take the longest to analyze. Just make sure you account for the part that he's more fun than competitive. That's why people get really mad about him. Also I'm sure there will be updates considering Hero with some buffs, nerfs, and the fact that you have to read in order to see what down b says. Someone said to put a little picture next to all the names. Not bad, probably would work. I don't know if that'll happen though.
I saw your comment NVM.
I have a lot to say about Hero
@@PBLKGaming oh boy.
IMO it feels like Bowser is closer to Melee Marth than [Ultimate] Marth is. Many of the moves have similar uses and hitbox. Down angled Ftilt and Jab1 replaces [Melee Marth's] Dtilt and you have no grab combo game but other than that his fair, nair, uptilt, Fsmash, jab and movement can be used in quite the same way
I like how he slowly got into shape with all the smashes and started using his legs to stomp out the completion. Also I vote for Dr.Mario no one talks much about the Doc
Bowser finally decided to go to the gym to have a better shape
In the next smash game, C C C COMBO BREAKER!!!!!!
Finally!!!
1:35 Not really. Because of how knockback functions, weighing 135 means you get 0.851 scaling Knockback aprox, and a unit who weigh 116 receives 0.926 SK, (0.075 more). So a unit who receives 0.075 more SK doesn't exist, but Cloud get 1.000 SK, 0.074 SK more than Charizard.
In few words, Bowser is to Charizard who Charizard is to Cloud and Sword Mii, not to Luigi (and Shulk). Still, yeah, bowser makes heavyweight looks like middleweights.
Well to be fair that's only 3 points of weight difference. Great explanation
@@PBLKGaming Remember that Sheik and Lucario are now barely midtier, mostly because of their lower weight.
Still, Shulk lost 5 weigh units and now is top tier instead of midtier, Greninja is even better (IDK if Top tier or High tier) despite being way lighter, and DK is low tier instead of high tier despite being 5 units heavier; weigh matters, but isn't all.
@@PBLKGaming Edit: Well, I was analizing the KB formula between classes, and it turns out that WE ARE BOT RIGHT. In the percent progression that certain move will kill your character you are right, and in Knockback scalling rate I'm right.
Knockback in Smash bros. is an interesting function notheless, and after this analysis I guess now why they changed the weight calculation in Melee.
Bowser is my favourite heavy to play. Sometimes i play pokemon trainer and im just like can zard have bowser fair ;-;
You can grab forward smash as well as a bowser main I have been mid froward smash and grabbed by the likes of another bowser and hero
Yes. Move invincibility does not preclude you from being grabbed. Not even wonder wing
Noobs, only move I use is f-smash and I win every match
Doctor Mario gotta be next man
15:12 I know a couple people who love to do this to me
Bowser when he uses f-air
Hey look. It's good sheik
Bowser strong, insane defense, fast running on ground and a slow attacker.
I gave my custom Bowser 150+ strength and made him a bruiser That can Also heal 3% damage every 3 to 5 seconds
He's a big guy
Is putting on tilt stick really going to be beneficial with Bowser?
Tilt stick is a must for ultimate
I had 0% once in my opponent had 40 I side B'd him and he somehow still managed to get me off the edge during the final stock I was pissed mostly because I was aiming in the opposite direction the entire time to avoid exactly that
Please do piranha plant next