What Happened to Voyager?

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  • The USS Voyager embarked on its epic 7 year voyage across the Delta Quadrant to arrive back at Starfleet in 2379. This video covers what happens to the starship itself after it returned, with the splistream drive USS Dauntless, the new Voyager A and Pathfinder class Voyager B later on down the timeline. Star Trek Lower Decks gave as another piece of the puzzle as did Picard, so let's put it all together.
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  • @elevatorcait
    @elevatorcait ปีที่แล้ว +198

    Makes me happy that we now finally have a pretty definitive knowledge of what happened to voyager after it returned

  • @kdisley
    @kdisley ปีที่แล้ว +94

    To be honest, my head canon was that Voyager was like the Bluesmobile at the end of "The Blues Brothers" - they reached their destination, the last crewmember stepped off and looked back, and with perfect comic timing it completely fell apart into a pile of components...

    • @falconwind00
      @falconwind00 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Haha! I totally had this thought too! 😂

    • @ScottLafray-dd2fp
      @ScottLafray-dd2fp 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      😂😂😂 exactly. Voyager had a rough life. You saying that made me picture it in my mind and giggle. Thanks!

    • @RurouniKalainGaming
      @RurouniKalainGaming 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maybe it if was the Year from hell turned into a series Voyager, but otherwise, nah.

    • @sidd_not_vicious2609
      @sidd_not_vicious2609 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that car was the best. cop everything.. except that shitty lighter

  • @marvelboy74
    @marvelboy74 ปีที่แล้ว +218

    I feel like there needed to be a huge debriefing after Voyager returned simply because of the Doctor. By all accounts, he was a sentient holographic lifeform like they have never seen. However, his rights would have also needed to be clarified similar to Data. I just imagine that there was so much red tape with everything about Voyager, it just made sense to decommission it rather than try to wait until the studies, hearings and everything else was over. I mean, Voyager was duplicated during Deadlock; that alone would have fascinated scientists.

    • @VME-Brad
      @VME-Brad ปีที่แล้ว +33

      I mean, Janeway should have faced a court marshal.
      Even if she was eventually cleared, the proceedings should have taken place.
      At a bare minimum she should have had to answer some pointed questions about the U.S.S. Equinox.

    • @andromidius
      @andromidius ปีที่แล้ว +41

      The debrief would probably last longer then their voyage, going on for decades. The sheer number of new civilisations, anomalies, technologies and scientific discoveries alone would take years. And that's ignoring all the time travel.
      The main thing I'd be curious about with the Doctor is how he impacts Federation policy. He wasn't sentient because of an accident or interference or modification to his core program - he seems to have ALWAYS been sentient, but didn't realise it until he'd been activated for some time. Which means all of the EMH mark ones likely are too (and maybe even future EMH's). Which means the Federation would have to face up to their treatment of them and the fact they essentially enslaved them.
      And I'd also like to know how the events on Mars changed that policy, considering their knee-jerk reaction to AI. Did they make exceptions for holograms? Were they put in cold storage? Were they outright purged?

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I've said before that a lower decks or Prodigy style animated limited series covering the events after Voyagers return, call it Star Trek Voyager: Homecoming?
      Centered around Janeways court-martial and eventual exoneration with the other characters getting their plots as well, 7 making contact with her remaining family, struggling to fit in after effectively losing Voyager as a home, Tom trying to reconcile with his father and coming to terms with being a family man, Nelix much like 7 losing the home he chose which let us not forget was a massive life changing decision for him.
      There's so many stories you couldn't possibly fit them all in a single season.

    • @KianaWolf
      @KianaWolf ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@andromidius My interpretation of the EMH is that they aren't inherently sapient, but rather that the learning capacity combined with just how long the Doctor was left perpetually running caused emergent sapience. So they aren't sapient on first activation, but instead achieve it over time.
      ...Still makes me worry for all those EMHs repurposed as miners since, yeah, that's straight up slavery the second a single one is sapient. (See also: Those non-humanoid drones from TNG that clearly developed sapience, and thus deserve all the rights afforded sapients, imo. Doesn't matter if they're mechanical or electronic, they're as living as Riker's transporter accident clone.)

    • @heeebhooob
      @heeebhooob ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@KianaWolf The federation needs to update it's definition of sapient life just because someone left their high tech scanner on for too long lol

  • @Dan__S
    @Dan__S ปีที่แล้ว +85

    Ten years ago I binge watched the series on Netflix. I remember the glory days of having ds9, voyager, and Babylon 5 on at the same time. When I did that binge of voyager I realized that voyager was really under rated as a series. Even though the first season was a little "eh," later seasons really made some solid episodes like timeless and year of hell. Voyager made star trek return to the fun and campy roots of TOS while still having an edge to it.
    It's been nice to see voyager pop up with the crew in various shows lately.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It really round its stride in season 4 when Seven of Nine joined the crew. The writers never figured out what do with Kes, but they did an incredible job with Seven. Those last three seasons are mostly super, with occasionally stinkers. (Like when they brought Kes back, just to ruin her character entirely.) I like the whole series, though.

    • @ImpendingJoker
      @ImpendingJoker ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well if you look at it as art imitating life, the actress that played Kes pretty much ruined her own life and went more than a little bit crazy.@@ManabiLT

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ImpendingJoker Oh I know, she ended up in my state and has made regional news for more incidents than have made national headlines. It's really sad how her life's fallen apart.

    • @Pete...NoNotThatOne
      @Pete...NoNotThatOne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ManabiLTthe way the writers treated Kes really irked me. She and Nelix are supposed to be lovers, then, out of nowhere - oh yeah, they broke up. Kes has been trying to develop her psychic abilities, then in the space of two episodes, she becomes telekinetic and ascends to a being of light (?)
      I guess the producers were just super keen to get Jeri Ryan in that catsuit on the show.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Pete...NoNotThatOne Agree on how they handled the breakup, but I liked the ascension thing. Since Kes had reached the age that O'campa normally die, it seemed to me that this had been suppressed by the Caretaker (probably not intentionally). That made it clear that the ones left on the planet would be fine even after the energy ran out and they were forced to the surface. The Kazon weren't going to win against a bunch of ascended O'campans.
      Not sure if that was intentional or not, but it was how it came across to me.

  • @Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas
    @Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Voyager is a legendary Ship. With a legendary Crew. An Ensign on that ship had more experience and toughness pushed into them then most others in Starfleet.

  • @suttone75
    @suttone75 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I loved that Voyager got the finale that it deserved. My only real question is: did Harry Kim FINALLY get promoted?

    • @288theabe
      @288theabe ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I think he was the first starfleet officer to retire as a cadet somehow… 🤔

    • @TheAsvarduilProject
      @TheAsvarduilProject ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hahaha no. He's never getting promoted. Janeway would rather break time than suffer Harry Kim to rise to Lieutenant or Lt. Cmdr.

    • @trustyvault13canteen32
      @trustyvault13canteen32 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TheAsvarduilProjectThe real reason for Endgame

    • @axelfoley1406
      @axelfoley1406 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, to ALMOST Lt. Junior Grade.

    • @deoglemnaco7025
      @deoglemnaco7025 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He actually was caught with CP and served several years in prison. Weird.

  • @Buddy74656
    @Buddy74656 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    The Intrepid class remains one of my favorite star fleet vessels. It was good to see her on screen again in Lower Decks.

    • @ronaldfain4541
      @ronaldfain4541 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It was my favorite too❤

    • @jaketheripper7385
      @jaketheripper7385 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She IS a damn fine looking vessel indeed... One of my favorites as well, and the variable geometry warp nacelles really make it particularly unique.

  • @theonlyjacknicole
    @theonlyjacknicole ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Voyager was actually my introduction to Star Trek, and to see it in this fashion is just awesome.

  • @BNuts
    @BNuts ปีที่แล้ว +64

    And in apocrypha, _Voyager_ 's career continued to be celebrated when, in _Star Trek Online_ , she was de-mothballed with Captain Tuvok in command. As the ship (and crew) with the most experience in the Delta Quadrant, she was an appropriate choice in accompanying the player back into the Delta Quadrant to get to the bottom of the Undine (Species 8472), and their efforts to infiltrate the Alpha and Beta Quadrant powers. Tuvok even gets to lead a foray into Fluidic Space in order to confront the Undine, when they also discover Borg efforts to find a way to assimilate them.

    • @andromidius
      @andromidius ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I do like the ST:O lore, though at this point its an alternate timeline. If such a thing even exists with how time seems to work in Star Trek - its very much *shrug* at this stage with how over-manipulated it is.

    • @RockRedGenesis
      @RockRedGenesis ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And in the current 25th Starfleet Tutorial STO missions, Admiral Janeway and Voyager aided your ship against the Borg incursion into Vega Colony with help from Captain Nog and his ship, the Chimera! Although, I don't think they explained how Tuvok ended up in command of Voyager and the Fluidic Space taskforce and the Delta Alliance missions later on. Maybe it was Tuvok's ability to "talk" to the Undine that got him that job and Janeway got reassigned (or reassigned herself) to something else.

    • @KianaWolf
      @KianaWolf ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@RockRedGenesis Judging by Prodigy, Admiral Janeway seems to much more readily recognize talent and the value of delegation than Captain Janeway. I could definitely see the admiral letting the best captain for the mission have it; especially since Tuvok has always been shown to be her most trusted crewman. (Unlike Harry Kim, the eternal ensign...)

    • @mittensfastpaw
      @mittensfastpaw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      STO handled the lore far better than any of the new stuff has ever done. Shame STO has to incorporate the new trash though.

    • @s3p4kner
      @s3p4kner ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RockRedGenesis tbh it's probably because Beltran refused, Mulgrew is too expensive and Russ charges more acceptable rates for voice acting for the budget of a free to play game. Problems like these are what writers are for! XD

  • @rhodrage
    @rhodrage ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love how its now canon that in every episode after the macrovirus incident, theres one just, chilling out on the bridge

    • @posindustries
      @posindustries ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'm never going to look at that panel by the engineering station the same way again.

    • @jaketheripper7385
      @jaketheripper7385 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait wait what are you talking about? I just finished re-watching all of "Voyager" again here recently and I'm not really sure what you mean... I mean I know the macrovirus and everything, but Idk what you mean about one hanging around on the bridge on the panel by the engineering station...
      Edit: Ah I see, from season 4 of "Lower Decks". Ya know I vaguely remember that episode now but I certainly don't remember that kind of detail, at least not for LD.

    • @rhodrage
      @rhodrage 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jaketheripper7385 Watch Lower Decks

  • @Soguwe
    @Soguwe ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Am I the only one who finds it incredibly ironic that the voyager got shipwide holo emitters only _after_ it returned to the alpha quadrant and the doctor had left?

  • @davidvarnes7708
    @davidvarnes7708 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Don't forget to add that Voyager also broke Federation records in the following areas:
    Most violations of the Prime Directive
    Most violations of the Temporal Prime Directive
    Longest serving Ensign in a 'senior officer' position EVER.

    • @abnnizzy
      @abnnizzy ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Longest serving Ensign in a 'senior officer' position EVER."
      Now we have Uhura in SNW. An Ensign going to classified briefings with the captain lol
      She is more like a lieutenant than and ensign.

    • @IsilmeTuruphant
      @IsilmeTuruphant 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean, the ship seems to be a magnet for chaos. You can't even blame the debacle with the Lower Decks crew on the usual TLD nonsense, because that ship had been quiet for over two years, as soon as they let her free into space again madness was going to ensue. Fate may protect Fools, Children and ships named 'Enterprise', but Chaos has a thing for ships named 'Voyager'

    • @ToadstedCroaks
      @ToadstedCroaks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IsilmeTuruphant In a roundabout way, they missed a opportunity to create a VGER moment with Voyager

  • @Jonny5a
    @Jonny5a ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Probably my favourite ship (Defiant in running too though), while it makes me happy to know it’s full history it’s a little melancholy that the end of STV was the end of the ships active service. Kinda hoped their adventures would continue but I suppose the nature of the crew meant if it continued it would be a very different environment, like Pike’s enterprise vs Kirk’s

    • @Harkeilla
      @Harkeilla ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not your favourite. You're only saying that to fit in with people in the comments.

    • @browning2471
      @browning2471 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Harkeillawhat makes you say that? Don’t you think a video on voyager would attract people who like the ship?

    • @TheOtherGuys2
      @TheOtherGuys2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The crew of Voyager was meant for a mission chasing a Maquis ship into the Badlands. None of them were meant for a mission that long, and I suspect all of them would be quite eager to take a bit of leave and pick up the pieces of their lives, so probably a new crew would have been in order even if the ship didn't need to be picked apart by Star Fleet scientists.

  • @Finite-Tuning
    @Finite-Tuning ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I love Star Trek! Currently on my 3rd re-watch of Voyager since the show ended. It is getting dated though, especially with no remaster in sight! Here's looking forward to "Strange New Worlds". Cheers 🍻

    • @dzzope
      @dzzope 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You won't need remastered copies soon. The "ai" upscaling for video that nvidia and i'm sure others are working on is pretty damn good.

  • @BdogFinal14
    @BdogFinal14 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I don’t know. I think because future Adm. Janeaway saved the ship with advanced technology, the Voyager would have been permanently classified upon its return and even itch virtually disassembled. Upon its return, Voyager would have been one of the most advanced ships in the Fleet, SF Intelligence would be analyzing it for years. The crew debrief could take months or years as well. And despite what Lower Desks presented, it would never be opened as a Museum exhibit. Maybe a highly declassified replica, but Voyager herself would be decommissioned and secreted to a highly classified location for in-depth research.

  • @akjackhd5804
    @akjackhd5804 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    4:00 little tip, not sure if it works or not with a intrepid but you can fly under a nemesis style dock to fly into it, the hitbox in sto is weird, because these drydocks for such a small ship just... seem ridiculous ..

  • @fishbaitx
    @fishbaitx ปีที่แล้ว +9

    😊 yay we finally have one of my burning questions answered
    Which was what happened to the USS voyage ncc-74656 AFTER they came home I always imagined engineers pouring over the ship studying it and having a lot of wtf, how did that work moments.
    But Good Lord the original creator of the intrepid class must have had a minor heart attack seeing the kinds of shit the crew of voyager did to keep er running 😊

  • @irregularassassin6380
    @irregularassassin6380 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As my family and I watched the Season four premiere of Lower Decks, the feed cut-out right as the Cerritos was arriving at the station housing Voyager, though, of course, we did not know this yet. My heart sank, but a quick change of channels brought the feed back ... right as the show cut to the first image of Voyager. I audibly gasped. With the incredible timing, and the music swelling, I was nearly overcome with emotion. Seeing Voyager again, under her own power, was breathtaking.
    The rest of the episode wasn't bad, and I liked the alternative take on the Tuvix problem and how the show managed to skirt it, but the highlight was absolutely seeing Voyager's beauty shot in the gorgeous clean animation of Lower Decks.

  • @Ieson75
    @Ieson75 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    It's a shame we are never gonna get a 'real' trek series moving the timeline forward. I miss old Star Trek. 😢

    • @danhunt4224
      @danhunt4224 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Amen to that. I had to nope out of Discovery after season 1. It just became too...for lack of a better word, woke and boring. The showrunners intentions were very very clear

    • @turtletube420
      @turtletube420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      We did Picard and season 3 was great

    • @mrmasonry9792
      @mrmasonry9792 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you have not, you need to check our Strange New Worlds. I would argue it is the best Star Trek Series since TNG. If you dont know it, it is based on the original Enterprise, 7 years before Kirk takes over. Pike is in command.Yes the ship has has an internal face lift to echo what is would have been if they have current stage effects but the feel is there. And the ship is just beautiful when you see it on the outside. I swear Gene Roddenberry created the most awesome Starship ever. It is so well written its just great. Give it a chance. Season 3 is slated for next year sadly due to the writers strike. **Ok I see you said "Moving the timeline forward". Sorry.

    • @mrmasonry9792
      @mrmasonry9792 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danhunt4224 f you have not, you need to check our Strange New Worlds. I would argue it is the best Star Trek Series since TNG. If you dont know it, it is based on the original Enterprise, 7 years before Kirk takes over. Pike is in command.Yes the ship has has an internal face lift to echo what is would have been if they have current stage effects but the feel is there. And the ship is just beautiful when you see it on the outside. I swear Gene Roddenberry created the most awesome Starship ever. It is so well written its just great. Give it a chance. Season 3 is slated for next year sadly due to the writers strike.

    • @AXLoof
      @AXLoof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danhunt4224wait how is one season of television from 7 years ago the end of moving forward, I know people hate disco but didn’t think that Prodigy, Picard, SNW, Legacy and even the possible section 31 movie would be unwatchable for you; seems like a you problem🤔🤔

  • @narutobullock
    @narutobullock ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Wow, the Voyager ship sounds so fun. If only a show was on a modern, updated version.

    • @TheGuardianofAzarath
      @TheGuardianofAzarath ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Trust me, you wouldn't want a 'modern' version of Voyager, at least not one developed/headed by that idiot Klutzman with today's standards. The closest you can get is Prodigy, and that's been canceled, which is a shame, because out of all of the Kurtzman era trek, its the one that respects what came before it the most, the rest, not so much.

    • @lilkris3008
      @lilkris3008 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i love prod and hope we get to see S2 one day but SNW literally retells old episodes with a new twist and LD is a love letter to old trek and the whole reason this video was able to be made lol @@TheGuardianofAzarath

    • @ayato1036
      @ayato1036 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@lilkris3008LD is just nostalgia milking with some lame ass attempts to constantly insert a joke somewhere, I can't wait for it along with the rest of Kurtzman Trek to get cancelled.

    • @KianaWolf
      @KianaWolf ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@lilkris3008 I've only seen season one of SNW (so no opinion on the rest yet) but I quite enjoyed it. It's not perfect, but I enjoy having optimistic Trek again.

    • @lilkris3008
      @lilkris3008 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair enough but how much have you watched? S1E1 yeah you are totally right but S2 and the first two episodes of season 4 are awesome and most of the jokes work in universe. Its not perfect but there is real character growth and they clearly know trek@@ayato1036

  • @thespectre717
    @thespectre717 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is an issue I have with the new “canon timeline” why take voyager out of service when it’s not every that old by the time of lower decks and could still be of use, and by the time of Star Trek Picard, Voyager, and the defiant are in the fleet museum, why ?? I find it rather stupid when those ships are not that old and can still be use, in the Star Trek Online, they are both still in service but just upgraded with the times,

    • @zereimu
      @zereimu ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Agreed, I somewhat understand the historical significance of the ship, but there was nothing wrong with the ship to begin with.

    • @inajar7947
      @inajar7947 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      There's a difference between a seven year old ship in the alpha quadrant, with regular access to shipyards and replacement parts.....
      Versus seven years of battles, operating WAY outside intended use of the ship, jerry-rigged repairs, etc. It also went through being partially assimilated, fluidic space, physically entering the q continuum, experiencing the birth of the universe, time rifts, the carona of a star, a telepathic pitcher plant, and unstable experimental methods of ftl travel.
      All without going through a maintenance overhaul.

    • @scottguffie7759
      @scottguffie7759 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@inajar7947 When you put it like that I can definitely see that returning Voyager to active service would most likely require a MAJOR overhaul that would likely cost as much as building an entirely new ship. Plus, in "researching" the ship and all its modifications they most likely stripped it near to the bare bulkheads before mostly just making it look good for serving as a museum ship. Returning her to a state in which she could properly function would be heavily time and resource extensive from that point alone. All this adds up to "Yes, Voyager is best served becoming a museum ship." Likely something similar could be said for the Defiant.

    • @ConorD1990
      @ConorD1990 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@inajar7947 Exactly this, a real world example would be how ships that saw heavy wartime service during WW1 and WW2 where almost immediately scrapped postwar were are other ships (sometimes of the same class) would be kept post war or mothballed.
      For Starfleet I imagine by the early 2380s they would have a surplus of newly built ships due the Domain War which wouldn't have seen as much use compared to Voyager, not to mention there would also be a large number of hulls almost finished construction (for example other Intrepid class ship/similar size) so it would be a better use of resources to finish, given the hull was alone was have needed ALOT of work to bring it back into Starfleet specs.
      Long term making Voyager museum ship was probably of more use to Starfleet (makes a great PR/recruitment tool) that just having one extra Intrepid class.

    • @paulrasmussen8953
      @paulrasmussen8953 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@inajar7947 so again not that old. Refits are expected

  • @timecircuits88
    @timecircuits88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd like to see the Fleet Museum revisited in Discovery. Another chance for a nostalgic showcase of Voyager, all the Enterprises and to see what ships were added after the events of Picard and Section 31. I'd love to see a top down angled view of Voyager and a closer view of the NX-01 refit, and I definitely wouldn't say no to more of the D either 😁

  • @BossVolt
    @BossVolt ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Honestly, Tuvok remobilising the ship and using it has his admiral's flagship is a much more fitting end for Voyager than just forever belonging in a fleet museum

    • @UPRailRoad-xg8cb
      @UPRailRoad-xg8cb ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah, I always thought it was weird that even though it's been through a lot, they retired a 7 year old ship. Better to have her serve as an admirals ship and finish her service before becoming a museum piece.

  • @CYCO1631
    @CYCO1631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I loved Voyager as a series. Interesting to get some background as to what happened to the ship in the Star Trek Universe.

  • @wolfpack_104
    @wolfpack_104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm curious if we'll be getting Lower Decks Voyager model as an alternate skin in Star Trek Online. That design was too clean to just be one-and-done.

  • @nekbiodieselworks
    @nekbiodieselworks 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Voyager would have been better if the ship had become more patched up and run down as the show progressed. With visible patches on the hull like the enterprise A did during star trek 3. Cables running across the floor on the bridge and broken unlit control panels would have been great.

  • @xpgx1
    @xpgx1 ปีที่แล้ว

    o7 cmdrs! What a nice touch, at the end, Ric ;)

  • @deejj9766
    @deejj9766 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously enjoyed this

  • @jonhutto580
    @jonhutto580 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Armor, shields, weapons, and sensor upgrades would give The Federation a multi decade advantage in the quadrant.

  • @FuryKingW
    @FuryKingW ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It both Angers me and Saddens me that a ship with this much adventure and importance, once returned to earth ended up being a "Lab rat." Yes I know this course of action was required and such, but to me she should of gone on active service as she was a capable ship, but needs must I guess!!

    • @s3p4kner
      @s3p4kner ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How many times was that ship almost destroyed? By the time you've replaced every bulkhead and power conduit you'd have been best building a new ship.
      The class served it's purpose and in Voyager beyond expectations, at least she isn't scraped as would have happened in the real world.

  • @webduelist
    @webduelist ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Like the D she is like warp-ready, but they keep her reactors powered down and un-fuled, and command controls locked out. It would have been cool to see Seven of Nine come flying into the battler at Earth with Voyager, Tom Paris and Harry Kim doing what they can to keep her in the fight.

  • @billnotice9957
    @billnotice9957 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would still love to know what happened to the USS Equinox crew who were demoted from Officers to Crewmen when fleeing to voyager.

  • @overseer5660
    @overseer5660 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Despite all its troubles and issues still lingering the ship, the Voyager remained resilient throughout its history and even after arriving on Earth, where it remained in a Museum.
    For that, I salute.
    (Now for the Pathfinder class)

  • @jacoblind5390
    @jacoblind5390 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I strongly suggest everyone either read, or preferably get the audio book version o, of “an autobiography of Kathryn Janeway”. The audio is read by Kate Mulgrew. In addition to telling all about her life It goes into some of what happened to the ship. Other than I little retconning and have small parts changed by Picard it is exceptional.

  • @straycat1674
    @straycat1674 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’d like to know what happened to the other version of the doctor that was on this one planet that was going through a Civil War and in this museum. Eventually the doctor left the world to come back to Earth. But that essentially meant they were two versions of the doctor.

  • @Exaris79
    @Exaris79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thought the Voyager-A would be the Vivace class based on the BridgeCommander&Armada and Legacy games.

  • @phunk8607
    @phunk8607 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    finally USS Voyager got some love and recognition from Star Trek makers

  • @lilacvanilla8702
    @lilacvanilla8702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m surprised how little time there is between voyager returning and the synth attack on mars. I wonder whether Lower Decks or Prodigy will give us our first onscreen details about the Romulan supernova?

    • @rakaydosdraj8405
      @rakaydosdraj8405 ปีที่แล้ว

      IT would absolutely be in the Lower decks wheelhouse, being federation-centered, but I think Prodigy is slightly further ahead in the timeline. Assuming it's not canceled, Prodigy might have references, but Lower decks will probably give the full story, with buildup and major characters.

  • @yodaslovetoy
    @yodaslovetoy ปีที่แล้ว +76

    As long as worf didn't get his hands on it, it probably survived in some form

    • @chaff5
      @chaff5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Deanna has crashed every ship she's flown so far. Best to keep her away as well.
      seems like some people think this is sexist to say. I would have made the same joke if it was Geordi. Calm yourselves.

    • @absboodoo
      @absboodoo ปีที่แล้ว +17

      That was NOT his fault.

    • @gabelogan5877
      @gabelogan5877 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@chaff5 so sick of this sexist bad lady driver slam of Deanna. The D's saucer was knocked out of orbit by an exploding warp core and its helm control was offline. The E had exhausted its weapon complement and Picard ORDERED Deanna to ram the ship in a last ditch effort to save themselves.

    • @WallyBChamp
      @WallyBChamp ปีที่แล้ว

      🤣

    • @inajar7947
      @inajar7947 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@chaff5incorrect. The ship was already crashing. What you meant to say was "Deanna has safely landed every ship she's ever piloted, saving lives in the process"

  • @QuantumVLOG
    @QuantumVLOG ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be interesting to know the feelings towards other Intrepid class ships that are still in service, knowing they would likely never live up to Voyager.

  • @classic.cameras
    @classic.cameras ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Would've been nice if Voyager either landed on Earth or docked at Space Dock at the end. But I get it, we already had sort of that ending in a alternate history.

    • @Meritania
      @Meritania ปีที่แล้ว

      It did fly to Earth with expies of the other hero ships of the modern trek, a Galaxy and Defiant, a sort of symbol of it joining their echelons. Might have been better to have a more literal display of homeliness, reflective of their efforts, rather a symbolic one.

  • @g_pazzini
    @g_pazzini ปีที่แล้ว

    ST VOY is my all time most favorite star trek series ❤❤

  • @edwardpate6128
    @edwardpate6128 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know I've chimed on this before but I'll drop it again. There are no hallways on ships, they are called passageways. Likewise floors are the deck, walls are bulkheads and ceilings are overheads. Naval terminology lesson of the day. 🙃

  • @Kreachie
    @Kreachie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s just the Lamarr-Class, and Not “Lamar”, it’s “Lamarr”, Hedy Lamarr was an American Actress and Inventor in the early 20th century, during WW2 she helped develop Broad-Spectrum Communications, and was reportedly the “Mother of Wifi”.
    Basically The Voyager-A is a Lamarr-Class Special Science Cruiser! Not much is known about her internals although she’s said to be similar in size, if not Slightly Smaller than, a Sovereign-Class Starship!

    • @CaptainBardiel
      @CaptainBardiel ปีที่แล้ว

      It's Hedley Lamarr...

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L ปีที่แล้ว

      Where would we be without her frequency-hopping algorithms. Not just wifi, but also Bluetooth depends on it to dynamically allocate the spectrum across all users in overlapping coverage areas.

  • @Phoenixryu
    @Phoenixryu ปีที่แล้ว

    I never gave it much thought tbh since it was pretty obvious what would have happened. I guess it's always nice to know for sure. It also explains why a Voyager movie wouldn't have happened unless they took command of a new ship IE Voyager - A.

  • @ThisIsMeAndNotYou
    @ThisIsMeAndNotYou ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1 & 3 I’m living the dream!

  • @MrCCollins1993
    @MrCCollins1993 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine just the day after Voyager returned... The crew would be immediately granted shore leave to see their families, so was Voyager secured immediately? The crew would surely have to do a handover and brief new crew, secure the ship and explain everything exotic that they found...

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow this ship truly earned its namesake as Voyager

  • @variaxi935
    @variaxi935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Voyager will always be my favorite... it is objectively not the "best" ST show, but it is still subjectively wonderful. I deeply enjoy the one-big-family aspect, one extended crew cut off from Starfleet far, far from home. It makes the bonding between characters so much more of a necessity and means forging alliances matters more than ever before, I could write a paper on why Voyager makes me feel at home more than any other show but I'll stop here haha

  • @aaronatherton7431
    @aaronatherton7431 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sheesh...Starfleet stores stuff in its ships like corporates no longer have warehouses but store in truck trailers on the move.

  • @mittensfastpaw
    @mittensfastpaw ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lower Decks, the only new work that actually gets Star Trek and doesn't spit on the source every two seconds.

  • @AlternicityBlogspot
    @AlternicityBlogspot ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What's the function of the big groove down the front of the Pathfinder?

    • @DigiTheInformer
      @DigiTheInformer ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Janeway wants to ram shit with it. its the bayonet mount point.

    • @AlternicityBlogspot
      @AlternicityBlogspot ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DigiTheInformer I always thought she was about to spontaneously grow a...bayonet.

  • @SIG442
    @SIG442 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wouldn't be surprised if further technologic advancements were made in the future regarding Voyager and what she took home. Or whether it was logged in her memory banks without even realizing it.

  • @TheCaptainCrack
    @TheCaptainCrack ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what happened to the armor and transphasic torpedos from futurejaneway?

    • @vaska00762
      @vaska00762 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Probably seized by some Federation/Starfleet Organisation either to prevent further timeline contamination or to reverse engineer it.

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Keeping my ears open for this one because I want to know too. I suspect publicly confiscated by Temporal Investigations, clandestinely studied by s31 or something.

  • @90lancaster
    @90lancaster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A certain plot point in a Voyager novel is why I stopped buying Star Trek book entirely and now have not bought one for years.
    Interesting how the novel sales fell off a cliff around the same time, makes me wonder if I wasn't the only one put off by them ?

  • @Jayjay-qe6um
    @Jayjay-qe6um ปีที่แล้ว

    "This ship has been our home, it's kept us together, it's been part of our family." -- Captain Kathryn Janeway, 2374

  • @robertdobson8804
    @robertdobson8804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does anyone know if he use the Lexington? He's always flying a ship that looks exactly like it just without the hanger on screen

    • @robertdobson8804
      @robertdobson8804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If the Lexington were a intel ship itd be perfect (personal opinion) or if the cardassian flight deck carrier could look like the Lexington itd be the perfect ship

  • @biostemm
    @biostemm ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dumb question - does the Voyager have to use some sort of active-anchoring system when landed, so it doesn't tip forward?

    • @amateurcrastinator9523
      @amateurcrastinator9523 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have wondered how they keep the entire, overhanging saucer section from nosediving into the ground when they land.

    • @WhitzWolf92
      @WhitzWolf92 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@amateurcrastinator9523 It could just come down to weight distribution. There's a lot of (presumably) heavy stuff in the secondary hull/engineering section like the warp core, primary deflector, shuttle/cargo bays, which could offset the mass in the saucer which tends to have less heavy equipment.

    • @amateurcrastinator9523
      @amateurcrastinator9523 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @WhitzWolf92 I remain skeptical. But I'll say, "Possibly".

    • @Finite-Tuning
      @Finite-Tuning ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Must be weight distributed..... Although, how heavy is an anti-matter core? Well, we know it just floats in space even when ejected under momentum. So it must be special in some way.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L ปีที่แล้ว

      @@amateurcrastinator9523”antigrav thrusters” are mentioned as both part of the landing and takeoff procedures, so I’d assume it is indeed some active system. They use (anti)gravitons for so much else besides.

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think it’s time, for a new story chapter, should get thought up, about (VOYAGER).
    I imagine a scenario; In which the descendants, of the previous surviving members, of the first VOYAGER ship, get to experience their own adventures.
    On the starship USS VOYAGER Mark22, I also imagine that the starship, and it has extra features built to it.
    Such as mega strong nano-tech armor shields, that covers the entire starship in case of extreme danger, and a Anti-Borg pulse shield.
    After all there’s still a chance, that there might be a few more, evil Borgs remaining somewhere, hidden in some unknown places in the universe.
    I got that idea, after seeing the episodes, from (STAR TREK: PICARD) show, in the Third Season, and Fourth Season of it.
    Plus to add I imagine, another member is part of the crew, I imagine it’s an android male, who is one of Data’s descendants.

  • @cariganpintalba9498
    @cariganpintalba9498 ปีที่แล้ว

    I met particularly liked the Intrepid class design. The saucer section seemed oversized to me kind of how the Galaxy class was. It was disproportionate so my opinion is purely regarding the aesthetics of it.

  • @drthompson65
    @drthompson65 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Harry Kim should be a Captain.

    • @emmanuelquezeda
      @emmanuelquezeda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      At least he’s a captain in Star Trek Online

  • @CoL_Drake
    @CoL_Drake ปีที่แล้ว +6

    for every fan of voyager i can only full hearted tell you GO READ THE BOOKS that continue the story
    20 years ago the whole star trek universe was continued in books, you have voyager, TNG, ds9 all continued and some epic crossover masterpieces ... this are by far the best books ever written in the star trek universe :) i can only tell you to go and read them and u will enjoy it so much more then the crap the tv series and movies nowadays bring us xD this extended universe is a masterpiece

    • @jamesknight3070
      @jamesknight3070 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Cold Equations Trilogy by David Mack remain my favourites, and are the reason I won't watch Picard as I preferred their solution for Data, as well as the overall universe they take place within.

    • @mechanomics2649
      @mechanomics2649 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You guys really have to take every opportunity to whine incessantly about current Trek. Move on already.

    • @CoL_Drake
      @CoL_Drake ปีที่แล้ว

      i dont have to, these books are amazing :) and i dont think u have accept crap just because tehy give u alot of it ... if i shit on you, you accept it after a while is that what u tell me ? also this was my first post ever about star trek on youtube so ur "you guys always" u can put where no sun shines :)@@mechanomics2649

    • @jamessmyth3952
      @jamessmyth3952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you I may do that. Give me a place to start my friend?

    • @gimzod76
      @gimzod76 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mechanomics2649 stop the desiccation of it then.

  • @robertfarr9186
    @robertfarr9186 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    “There were issues “. Best way to sum up the lower decks series.

  • @GraemePryce1978
    @GraemePryce1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd love to see Voyager be shown again in the way that Enterprise was in the Picard series. Considering Patrick Stewart was in his 80's when he last stepped onto the bridge, I haven't given up on seeing Kate Mulgrew say 'Engage!' on Voyager again!

  • @matthewulanski217
    @matthewulanski217 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't forget that they might discover these things in Prodigy as well.

  • @Tervicz
    @Tervicz ปีที่แล้ว

    Star Trek Legacy, with Seven of Nine as captain, if it gets made, might require a lot of Voyager references to draw audience.

  • @porter0311
    @porter0311 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If ships at the museum had their warp drives inert, then the Enterprise D would not have been able to disembark. Nah they are all still fully functional.

  • @TimfromAlabama
    @TimfromAlabama 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had always wished they'd have taken Voyager and her crew, and had other missions, furthering the life of the ship and people....into a movie, such as they did in Generations. She deserved a whole new series...or at least to be part of a new series pre-ST Picard. When Enterprise ended, we pretty much had an ending to the REAL Trek we all grew up to love. The reinvisioned, Kelvin timeline Trek just isn't as glorious as the Trek we loved from TOS until Enterprise, while we waited for Picard. So many storylines could have been made and used to have another Trek original concept all the way up until ST PIcard. BUT, as we know, "All good things must come to an end". It remains to be seen if they'll make another series based on the original, which, I HOPE involves the Enterprise G and 7 of 9 and crew from the finale of Picard. Not discounting Strange New Worlds, but a new series...as many series as they can make and we'll gladly watch them ALL...good or bad (depending on how you viewed Discovery which I liked but jmho). 50 years and beyond is a long time, but Star Trek lives on, if only in our hearts and minds. Cheers

    • @Agent77X
      @Agent77X 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ST - Picard was only good in the last season! The first two season was total joke!😮

  • @badwolf66
    @badwolf66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did they only ever make one Intrepid vessel or were there others?

    • @DieHardjagged
      @DieHardjagged ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Voyager was not the only Intrepid class vessel, there also existed the USS Bellerophon (NCC-74705) which was shown in the Deep Space Nine Episode named Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges (S7E16).

  • @StormsandSaugeye
    @StormsandSaugeye ปีที่แล้ว

    In star trek online I have a pathfinder class vessel. Honestly it's perf

  • @Stanley112803
    @Stanley112803 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    After it returned home the engine seized up and the did a LS swap on it.

  • @nickr0785
    @nickr0785 ปีที่แล้ว

    She was immediately retired and Starfleet commissioned Voyager A. Under the command of Captian Tuvok

  • @UpcycleShoesKai
    @UpcycleShoesKai ปีที่แล้ว

    29 decks on the Lamarr Voyager? Tall boi

  • @kineuhansen8629
    @kineuhansen8629 ปีที่แล้ว

    hmm i wonder since lower deck seem to revisit older shows from trek like ds9 voyager and just went back in time to pike period i wonder how big of a change that we may see an enterprise episode in lower deck

  • @Adiddy927
    @Adiddy927 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Assume after Voyager returns everyone was debrief and the ship computer core was downloaded by starfleet. After that the ship was decommissioned and put in the fleet museum

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many times did the ship explode in the series?

    • @Harkeilla
      @Harkeilla ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Twice, from what I can recall. In the episode 'Deadlock' (season 2 - because of some weird warpy dawpy stuff that replicated the ship and crew) and 'year of hell' (season 4 - because of that always annoying and lazy time paradox nonsense writing).

  • @VICORROMA
    @VICORROMA ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't you consider the Voyager in Star Trek: Discovery season 4?
    They plan to Make test using Voyager

  • @matthewmoser1284
    @matthewmoser1284 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Ablative armor from the final arc?

  • @AlteredBuzzard
    @AlteredBuzzard ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The borg seem to be so inconsistent, so if janeway totally destroyed the Borg on her return as said in Picard S3. why was a course plotted to a borg cube?
    They could easily say there were multiple queens (Which would probably make sense even before now with First Contact and with the various actors playing The Borg Queen), just say that becuase of her injuries the Queen from Picard was disconnected from the collective as a whole.

    • @Soul-cry1
      @Soul-cry1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I often thought that should have been stated, like they had a different queen in multiple sectors of the galaxy, all operating collectively with each other and separately in their designated area.

    • @s3p4kner
      @s3p4kner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's probably for the best that they try to keep the Borg enigmatic, the less they're used the better, since ST can't seem to agree on what the Borg are let alone more philosophical points like does, how or should a gestalt intelligence have a hierarchical power structure?

    • @omega311888
      @omega311888 ปีที่แล้ว

      DONT blame the borg for being inconsistent. blame the shoddy writing.

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L ปีที่แล้ว

      Prodigy has your answer.
      There’s tons of Borg cubes just sitting out there, dormant. But they’re not connected to a wider collective anymore, only within each ship. Just as the Cube encountered in Prodigy wanted to assimilate USS Protostar, the reactivated dormant programming in Lower Decks wanted Voyager.
      Even with the Borg “decimated” (which doesn’t actually mean totally destroyed), they still have a deep innate desire to try and rebuild if there’s even one survivor. Just like the 2 drones found in Enterprise, which then assimilated a cargo ship and its crew.

    • @stab74
      @stab74 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaitlyn__L I'm gonna be that guy. Technically "decimated" means one out of every 10 destroyed. People tend to use the word as if it means 9 out of 10 though. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

  • @theAverageJoe25
    @theAverageJoe25 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m trying to find that video about what happened to the voyager crew could you put it in the comments or something?

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/3DMWGvweYf4/w-d-xo.html It's a little old now and we have some more info I think, but here it is!

  • @drewf41
    @drewf41 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How(why) did SF get the Kronos 1?

    • @vaska00762
      @vaska00762 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe has less value in Klingon society if it wasn't famous for a battle, but rather transporting Chancellor Gorkon to a peace conference.

    • @ManabiLT
      @ManabiLT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We don't have any canon explanation, but there's plenty of theories. Perhaps the Klingons didn't care much about it, so they happily handed it over to the Federation when they asked (as @vaska00762 says). Or maybe they donated it to the Federation as a sign of good will and respect as part of peace treaty negotiations, knowing that Federation members care more about that type of thing. Maybe it ended up derelict somewhere and Starfleet discovered, recovered, restored and put it on display. It may have simply been on loan from the Klingon's fleet museum equivalent. Could have been other reasons as well.

    • @Meritania
      @Meritania ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ManabiLT I can see the Excalibur being displayed at the Klingon Museum. A more worthy vessel of battle and honour than Kronos 1.

  • @MRCruise24
    @MRCruise24 ปีที่แล้ว

    A perfect ending for the ship!

  • @markcadge2104
    @markcadge2104 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if the crew ever stayed in touch when going there separate ways

  • @benjyharris1244
    @benjyharris1244 ปีที่แล้ว

    800 crew members on 1 ship!!.. I wont repeat what I said irl but it was heavy.. Voyager only had 143 life forms as the Borg probe confirmed..

  • @pterodactylptroll
    @pterodactylptroll ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't they make more ships like the last episode of VOY when it had all that awesome armor and weapons?

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not revealed in canon yet, but presumably because they were from the future and confiscated in accordance with the Temporal Prime Directive. Again, not mentioned in official lore yet.

    • @pterodactylptroll
      @pterodactylptroll ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CertifiablyIngame That makes sense. The Borg don't care that much about such things. I wonder why they didn't utilize their knowledge of time travel to get Borg knowledge of the future like they did in First Contact. The Queen showed some concern about it in ST: Picard, but they generally don't care. Janeway super cheated to win, and it seems the Borg just let it happen.

  • @chazblank2717
    @chazblank2717 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like they skipped Voyager-A?

  • @ImmortalTreknique
    @ImmortalTreknique ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For ye old algorithm 👊

  • @Foebane72
    @Foebane72 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, Certifiably Ingame, but didn't you make a video a year or so ago detailing how once the USS Voyager made it back to Earth, it was pressed back into active service as if its previous achievements amounted to nought?

    • @stab74
      @stab74 ปีที่แล้ว

      Different timeline.

  • @JChang0114
    @JChang0114 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder what they thought when they opened Neelix's fridge.

  • @wolfpack_104
    @wolfpack_104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kelis: And Voyager, a great ship?
    B'elana: In a long line of great ships

  • @jamessmyth3952
    @jamessmyth3952 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The shielding voyager got from future janeway never showed up again huh

    • @rakaydosdraj8405
      @rakaydosdraj8405 ปีที่แล้ว

      The mystery vessel from LD season 4 looks like it could be related...

  • @ToadstedCroaks
    @ToadstedCroaks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the original timeline, it wandered back towards Earth and was confronted by Kirk and the Enterprise.

  • @matthewgurtnersr9160
    @matthewgurtnersr9160 ปีที่แล้ว

    You really couldn't have another crew be on that ship

  • @TMMAAS
    @TMMAAS ปีที่แล้ว

    The Red Angel Suit Universe Voyager is short lived.

  • @davidponseigo8811
    @davidponseigo8811 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I wouldn't call it a small task force, it was a pretty large force. Possibly as many or more than the Battle of Wolf 359.

    • @Harkeilla
      @Harkeilla ปีที่แล้ว

      You clearly have not watched the season finale in some time. It was stated that there were "18 ships in position and 9 more on the way." Wolf 359 had 39 ships. Last I counted, 39 was considerably more than 27.

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It was scrapped to build EV batteries.

  • @stankythecat6735
    @stankythecat6735 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hate hate HATE the scale issues with stol

  • @johnnyr25
    @johnnyr25 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hm. DS9 really is the Jan Brady in Paramount's Star Trek stable, huh?

  • @inurokuwarz
    @inurokuwarz ปีที่แล้ว

    Stellar Cartograpgers probably set upon the databanks like hungry jackals.

  • @zuzoscorner
    @zuzoscorner ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the lore in Star Trek Online better personally. insert obigitory remarks about STD era timeline here