UAE Blow Apart the Race | Tour de France Stage 17 2022 | Lanterne Rouge x Zwift
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- In this episode Lanterne Rouge and Benji Naesen recap Stage 17 of the Tour de France 2022.
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Fabio Jacobsen coming over the finish line and literally collapsing was one of the most epic things I've seen.. what a fighter
Yeah, huge respect for that performance. I hope it's rewarded with a stage win in one of the final sprint stages.
Very emotional interview by Senechal as well
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Nice and dandy, but I would like to have seen Cav...FJ didn't do anything in this Tour
@@le0fonzagoric164 He won a stage?
Even though UAE-Emirates is down to 4 men, Bjerg and McNulty step up to the plate when they're needed. Crazy performances
Yeah crazy, the chances of both putting in career best performances, on the same day, on the same team and in the 3rd week of the TdF...
This stage lined up perfectly for UAE after losing Majka due to it’s short length. They could just go full gas and utilize what they had. McNulty & Bjerg were magnificent today, but in the end 4 seconds…
I find it very difficult to believe either of Bjerg or McNulty will ride tomorrow like this. They basically blew themselves up. It will be difficult for 3 domestiques to keep Pog topped up with food, water and electrolites.
Totally agree Pog will attack tomorrow AND Friday where JV has a clear upper hand. Ineos might try and make both stages hard as well.
After 2021 sleep fest (Cav notwithstanding) this is like watching an old time 50’s or 60’s heavyweight boxing match. Haymaker after haymaker. I’m predicting all riders after tomorrow’s stage to ride to finish then just fall over making a huge pile.
This was the most fun pod for a while! You should put tri-lingual Benji with a microphone on the ground next year for a classic or some Tour stages. I sure would love to see Benjis positive energy doing interviews.
I think what this goes to show, PRIMOZ ROGLIC is the MVP of the whole Tour De France. The level is so close in the mountains, if Roglic didn’t make Pogacar jump around like a maniac on Galibier, Pogacar wins the tour. The Roglic hate from the Jonas fans is uncalled for, without him, Jonas finishes 2nd.
Somewhat true, but what do you mean with roglic hate from jonas fans?
@@tobiaschabert9063 Some fans questioning his reasons for leaving the TDF. His job here was done, he’s won the tour for his team and his team mate
Not second, but closer
What hate? There's no hate. I bet most people think Roglic is so awesome. If not, they're sick people
@@iminc5498 But the team said he was finished, there was no way he could race more.
Cycling is amazing
So true about the descending. After a while I was worried Vingegaard would crash into the back of the UAE guys out of surprise at how slow they were taking the corners.
Madouas again very strong, best domestique for Gaudu.
One of the most underrated riders in the peloton
agree
Madouas is crazy good on any terrain
@@seppoleonvervloet132 yeah exactly Flanders, wc last year, col du granon just incredible
Not to mention, he could finish 13th in GC. Which is insane for a guy who's supposed to be a domestique, and was 3rd in the Tour de Flanders.
He will finish 12 GC I mean that's mental considering he paced every fucking stage for David. This guy is from another planet right now 🥲❤️
I think Bjerg and Mcnulty have broken into Pogs medicine cabinet
Jonas too???
W⚓️
Low key a great stage
Groetjens vanuit Sydney voor julie beiden, maar vooral voor BenjiNaesen - Prachtig wat julie elke avond naar ons toe brengen. Professioneel en zo kompleet.
Bedankt...
Well said… and shoutout to Patrick/LR. Great name, and even better dissection of the ins and outs of this great sport you provide every day. Well done both of you. Keep it up!
Bedankt
Both of you were buzzing like school kids after this race! Good stuff!
Great analysis. This TDF has been incredible. The rivalry between Pogacar and Vingegaard is great for the sport. Hats off to McNulty today. What a beastly performance! I hope tomorrow is as dramatic a stage as the one we witnessed today.
@lanternrouge great recap as always.
Amazing performance by UAE (Mcnaulty and Bjerg), I didn’t see that coming. I was hoping that Pogacar could win the GC but, watching him ride since losing time, he honestly looks like he’s afraid to get dropped again by Vingegaard. Good win today but, it’s more like winning the battle and losing the war. He needed more time and needed to go from further out.
I wasnt expecting Adria Mobil jersey in the background. Nice!
Is that a Cube Agree back there, Benji? Hell yeah.
Hahaha 18:57 is great, love you Benji
😂
Mikel Bjerg didn't drop Wout. Wout grabbed a musette, handed out some stuff and roughly at the moment he was done fiddling about, McNulty had taken over and upped the pace.
You guys are amazing
This was McNulty's breakthrough Hindley Piancavallo moment... Would not be surprised if he goes the same way the coming years
We thought Ricco and Piepoli would be amazing for years, but ...
Rooting for Jonas to hold on. Love Pog as well. His attitude is superb always positive and happy. He has won 37% of the tdf mountain stages in the last 3 years. 9 stage wins in tdf in 3 years could win 2 more. Watch out Mercks and Cav!
Honestly, I think Pogačar's ability to win stages - his sprint - is what's holding back his pure climbing ability. He's gotten bigger and faster in sprints every year since 2019. His w/kg were the best in 2020.
Thought the same. If he could challenge Van der Poel in Flanders he needs some serious anaerobic capacity which is slowing his pure climbing performance down
Hmm. Interesting observation. I wonder if he's somewhat paying a price for trying to be more of an all-arounder who can win the Classics? The competitive margins may be too thin for him to do everything. But he's a special talent who's still young and still trying to figure himself out.
Very perceptive comments here. Thanks
@@Mine96craft Yep
20:00; I noticed the same thing yesterday. On the descent Jonas seems technically superior to Pogacar.
His lines were much smoother
Hard to say Pogacar was always descending good and bold but sometimes he does take mediocre lines
@@RedGunBullets agree he wasnt pushing it at all but Jonas was i think making a statement at points as if to say "dont bother"
Johas is a beautiful descender, so efficient. What would work is for Wout to get back in the break Thursday, Jonas drops Pog on a descent, and Wout then pulls Jonas as long as possible to launch Jonas into an unassailable lead.
💚💛 Boom, boom, out go the lights!
I'm half surprised they don't have someone hiding in bushes and looking to pick up the Lanterne Rouge ❤
Jumbo will definitely be happy tonight. Yes, Jonas was isolated, but Kuss is notorious for his inconsistency. In fact, considering he took the final climb easy and McNulty went full gas, I expect Kuss to be the last domestique left in the Vingegaard-Pogacar duel tomorrow.
That said, I have no idea why Jumbo tried to control Bardet. Even if he had gotten a big gap, he would firstly threaten Thomas' podium, forcing Ineos to chase way before Bardet would be a threat to Jonas. This isn't even the first time Jumbo do this. I think they should just call Ineos' bluff. Not that any of this made a difference, since the only TJV domestique who truly matters is Kuss. They don't need to attack, so the only thing they need is someone to pace if Jonas drops. No one else can do that but Kuss.
Today also showed why Ineos haven't done anything: they know Jonas and Pogi are way out of their league. Those two have dropped every other contender on every single mountain stage, and today my prediction (comments on pod of stage 11) of a multi-minute gap came true.
Like we say in the Lowlands, Pogacar was laughing like a farmer with toothache.
Saw the minigaps McNulty created on Pog as well. And after Pog 'radioed' , McNulty squirted a bottle over his shoulder showing he understood.
Also people from Wallonia , i thought they learned French there was comedy gold!
Mcnultly and Bjerg both had the best mountain Performance of their career on the Same day in the third Week of the tdf, the day after majka signed Off. Isnt that remarkable? Must have been an amazing motivational speech by the ds
Maybe they brought in Floyd Landis to motivate them🚵♂️
Marginal gains 😅
And the next day Berg was alone all day , almost fell for the time limit. So he did go deep
thank you from Truckee California
Well, Bjerg does mean Mountain in danish :)
It's a strange feelling watching this years TdF as a dane.
I went back to the LRCP preview episode and the boys nailed this stage. Should start the LR Betting Podcast. This is despite all the chaos earlier in the Tour. Good job fellas.
I agree with the analysis on Pogs microphone touch. McNulty was almost going too quick for Pog at that point.
So much effort for 4 seconds. I doubt they have the legs to do that for next stage tomorrow. It's gonna come down to the ITT (again), but I don't think Jonas bleeds out THAT much time, but you never know.
Lol the point is trying.. Sometimes it works.. Sometimes it doesn't.
Tomorrow Jonas will take time on Pogi
@@smeetsnoud1 he is not going to do anything. He just going to follow
I noticed Pogacar on the beginning of the last climb in the big ring, smallest gear (major cross chaining). As they went further on the climb, Pogacar went to the small ring and was in the smallest gear, so that tells me he was on the limit. I wonder if Jonas noticed this? Jonas looked bored on the last climb, in and out of the saddle, no difficulty on the face. Tomorrow could be where Jonas puts this to bed.
Watching it back, they was both on the small ring with 3km to go. Jonas rode the whole climb in the small ring, he has a higher cadence, just different riding styles
Pogacar looks more on the limit, heavy cadence and moving the head and shoulder as he usually do when is pushing hard, Vingegaard looks more comfortable, I hope tomorrow Vingegaard finally goes nuclear and shut it down
@@58668687 There’s no Rogla to help him this time. The level is super close in the mountains this year, if Pogacar conserves his energy, they will both finish together again, there is no difference, but for the stupid mistake Pogi made by chasing down Rogla and wasting energy
@@iminc5498 I think Vingegaar is just a superior climber, many will say Pog crack because the attacks or the heat, but even without those issues, Vingegaard is just a stronger climber at least during this Tour, he could drop Pog in a steep long finish, just my though
@@58668687 For sure, he is a very strong climber, but I don’t think the gap between him & Pog is so big, when Pog doesn’t attack like a maniac
Of course Jumbo is happier tonight. How many of y'all thought Jonas would lose an average of one second on Alpe D' Huez, Mende, and the first two Pyrenees stages?
Chris Froome gets in the break tomorrow and cracks the top 20 by Paris.
Ineos shredded like a the group of NPCs they are
I still think G has the best strategy of the tour. Pacing his climbs while disregarding everyone else and getting the best result possible for him.
thank god you said it out loud, if you watch the race on GCN then its a whole different scenario the commentators try to talk out of the reality
GCN can at times be borderline unsufferable with their heavy Ineos bias.
@@thomy2562 Agreed, especially when Martinez was ill for the first 2 weeks, and has managed to give it to Adam Yates. Yates was coughing and sneezing like mad when he was interviewed after the race day.
Bardet in the break should've been more of a concern for Ineos than Jumbo
Going great, compared to the snooze fest last year. Only the first 3 stages needed some excitement.
Butter Chicken and Lanterne Rouge podcast. Tradition in my house yo
Yesterday ye predicted a breakaway win. Today ye start with "flat start made break formation difficult"
If Jonas doesn't win the TdF, it will be because he didn't attack today. I think if he had went from about 2-4km to go that he would have dropped both McNulty and Pogačar. He chose not to today.
he'll win, pogacar can't escape from Vingegard.
@@grahamhoppstock-mattson531 Agree yesterday was the day
@@grahamhoppstock-mattson531 you may be right about both. It is possible JV couldn't go today, its always hard to tell for sure. I deffo agree he should have attacked on Stage 16, even more so than today
Yesterday LR said mcnulty wouldn’t drop WvA, and he goes and drops everyone. Oops👀😂
I guess he couldn't predict what UAE had for lunch yesterday, but knowing Gianetti and Matxin Joxean from Saunier Duval and also Neil Stephens and Andrej Hauptman as active riders maybe it should have been predicted
I was about to say the same about Bjerg.
@@HolgerDanske874 that is it. It blows my mind how majority of people ignore that. Out of nowwhere UAE got the best domestique in the peloton by a large margin. For me today was too obvious and i didnt enjoy the stage as i should because of this.
@@TheRuicoiso pressure forms diamonds. I think 99% of pro athletes are on the sauce but I just pretend they aren’t and enjoy anyway otherwise there’s no point in watching sports at all
@@HolgerDanske874 And Vingo is clean even though he's going 1v3 against "the juicers", right?
I’m hoping tug-buddy makes it to the Oxford English Dictionary…😂
Ikea Markus for the win. Great report, thanks.
All the previous hard stages are finally having real consequences.
I think we see the effects of the stage d3sign in the huge time gaps. There just hasn't been many stages where the GC guys can sit in the bunch on a flat stage and relax.
Yeah. There needs to be more flat stages tbh, if only for the health and recovery of the teams.
Pretty sure LR said Bjerg couldnt drop laporte yesterday on a climb but instead he dropped Kuss 😅
Bjerg didn't drop Kuss
@@TheShankalicious ahh might have mixed it up. didnt he drop pretty much the whole group? i thought it was down to basically the group of 5 once his pull was done
@@jamesd5241 McNulty was the one who dropped Sepp and brought the group down to 3
we now know that Majka was the 'weak' link in UAE's train and that Bjerg is a climbing beast 😂🤣
As long as Geschke wins the Col d'aubisque KOM without Pog or Jonas scoring any there he wins the KOM prize which would be amazing to see.
Where was Woods? Didn't one of you boys say this was a stage for him?
Berg dropping Wout and McNulty dropping Kuss. Did not expect this today.
Both WVA and Kuss worked hard the day before on stage 16 whereas Bjerg and McNulty rode conservatively that day. I'd lay a big bet they don't have any energy tomorrows big day.
I'm on team Vingo, but I think Pogi's TT could be better than most expect..
Totally agree, Jonas needs a full 2 minutes.
If he has a great TT, and Jonas not so much.. I think he can beat beat him for a minute. But that's not going to be enough
Pogacar descent attack at Strada Bianche was awesome, maybe he is good on gravel bu just mediocre on normal surface?
Pogacar performed well for someone who appeared to be struggling.
I think Jonas will win the Tour, but make Pogačar unbeatable in the coming years. A tactical Pogi will be impossible to beat!
He lost so much time because he over extended and imploded on Col De Granon. If he'd played it smarter/not ridden so hard on the Galibier he would not have lost anywhere near as much time. Say Jonas puts a minute into him, then he's only +30sec, time he's almost guaranteed to take back in the final TT.
I think McNulty may have won the stage if he was riding for himself... Pog and Johnas r so even that its down to nutrition that separates them. I think Johnas could of put time into Pog but they have convinced him he doesn't need to attack to win. Jakob son was epic to make time limit but what was so surprising was he had no team mates. If Pog can wrestle the Yellow Jersey from Vinegd by climbing and time trial, like he's did to Roglic, Jumbo will have nightmares for the rest of Pogs career...Johnas should spend his off season practicing time trialling... There'd be only seconds between them if pog had eaten properly before that Ganon climb.
From danish interview -Jonas said pace was to slow for him to win on the last one. Second to last was harder.
too slow for win ?
@@tayloryoung9803 yes, pogi is the better sprinter so if they're both fresh pogi wins. If the pace is crazy and they both can't sprint, the best climber wins which seemed to be Jonas
Bjerg with the craziest ride of the career........... Pulling alone for like 30 km of Pyrenees. Has to be suspicious at least, then the McNulty masterclass. I have to say that his performance was still less impressive than the dane's one....
Berg said after the stage he didn't even prepare for it - Pogi asked him to pull in the middle of the race...
Bjerg had some good mountain pulls last year also. It was more than I expected, but not by as much as some seem to think.
@@grahamhoppstock-mattson531 what are you on about, in regards to Vingegaards climbing? There has been no exceptional jumps in performance.
@@grahamhoppstock-mattson531 if you go back and check the pridiction video on this very Chanel, he called it exactly before the tdf. Because it was expected that Jonas would be able to put out these numbers. What there performance was before the tdf and in what shape is not the whole story. Pogi is by far the best overall cyclist of the two and in much better shape during the entire season.
No drama here, just abit of constructive discuss.
In which other endurance sport can you see athletes competing at the very top of their disciplines with such jumps in performance in their mid-twenties?
Just a question to the LRCP subs:
I am not saying Jonas should have attacked but was it "dangerous" to try attack pogi at least to challenge MC nulty to stay with them and maybe, just maybe having a gap between him and pog before the ramp? Could he lost a lot of time by doing that? Or is it just perfect riding by Jonas, the way he did today?
It's not like Vingo has infinite ammo, no point in burning matches just to roll the dice and potentially get steamrolled. 1v2 is in fact a dangerous scenario, and B-Mac was obviously on an absolute banger of a day. With Pog and Vingo neutralizing each other and doing a simple 30-second sprint to the line in today's stage, we have some serious fireworks to look forward to tomorrow. *That* is where Vingegaard needs to roll the dice on the last climb if he's feeling good.
either Jumbo was not on good form (maybe burned too much yesterday) or they were saving it for tomorrow...
gunna be exciting
Only Kuss is of worth on the climbs and he's not one for these super fast stages. In a post-race interview he said he was actually feeling better than yesterday, but the pace was just too high. In the end he saved a lot of energy today, he came rolling in with his mouth barely open. Tomorrow on Spandelles or Hautacam will be his moment.
Hello all. Here is a crazy thought about Jumbo Vismas overall tactics for this years tour. Keeping in mind they must have loads of data on all there riders and their performance levels. Im thinking they knew well in advance that Roglic wouldn’t be very good this year and that it was allways Jonas they where betting on. They only brought Roglic to be able to pull of the one-two tactics but they never intended for him to go all the way to Paris. In stead he is trying to get in shape for the Vuelta. It also makes sense if you think of the way they rode up the Soulan in the Daupine. Jonas was clearly way stronger but if he would have rode away from Roglic then everybody’s eyes (incl. Pogacars) would have been focusing more on Jonas and they wouldn’t have been able to play the tactical game to the same extent in the Tour. What do you all think?
Who was the high level pro who came to Chez LRCP the other day to discuss the risk of riding in the heat?
Geschke wins on Aubisce and celebrates 🙏🤞
12:22 "I'm a professional shit-talker"
I think Vingeegard is a way better descender than both McNulty and Pogacar. Yesterday they were on the limit and he was chilling
I wouldn't say Pogi is a bad one either though.. At "Il Lombardia" Masnada caught up with him but you gotta remember Masnada is a true local, from a small village close to Bergamo (Brembilla), and he could probably descend the Selvino with his eyes closed..
I haven't heard "suked in!" since 1995 :)
I saw that too. Pogacar talked on his radio. I think Pogacar is tired. And he is getting desperate to drop Jonas - "the destroyer of his invincibility aura." What else can we make this exciting? How about taking out another 2 of Pogacar's domestique today and don't forget to pull out Roglic from the race and make SK crash out. To make it even more interesting, let's throw Jonas and Benoot a crash. Who da thought the script is written like it is??? Everyone criticizes JV for pulling out Roglic (and later SK crashed out, followed by Jonas & Benoot) Rubbish. IMO, it makes the race exciting!!! If SK and Roglic (although questionable) are there, JV will snuff out Pogacar. Now is "all hell break loose." GC guys were dropped all over the mountain!!!
🇩🇪Go Geschke Go Geschke 🇩🇪
Vlasov 1'59 down on Gaudu in 5th, they are all much worse time trialists than him imo but can Vlasov take 2 minutes on Gaudu on stage 20 40km TT and not lose time tomorrow? Then he could get top 5 GC
shame that he is russian, and i'm rooting against him for the time being
I was just texting to a friend if Cav was there......
Jumbo probably won't care about the breakaway, so there is a chance in my opinion. But if they will be atacks for first 50 km it will be dificult. In the break we should see riders like Lutsenko and Mas(fighting for 10th or maybe 9th if Yates will have another bad day), Powless, who is not as good as rest of climbers and needs to gain some time before. He is still fighting for 12th for EF against probably Madouas who is really strong. I am not sure if UAE can do same damage as today.
Jonas should have attacked but is it his decision not to or the teams?
Think Jonas is being controlled from the car. They are riding fairly smart, but they are making the race abit less intense.
Great day - utterly hypnotic watching. I think Jonas will keep yellow. Pogacar used Bjerg and McNulty all up today & there is no way either (certainly McNulty) can do the same sustained effort on stage 18. They each burned all their matches.
Jonas was left all alone and he proved equal to anything Pogacar threw at him. Yes he did not win the stage but because he fell for Pog's rope-a-dope tactic of pretending to be exhausted half way up the last drag and so going first and leading out Pog then being overtaken because Pog has more explosive acceleration.
Kuss did have a bad day vs his performance of stage 16 but in the end riding his own pace will mean he has not exhausted his reserves and he could well be better on stage 18. WVA and Benoot also did not turn themselves inside out.
Jumbo as well as Vingo seems to be okay with Waut being in the race primarily for Waut.. All's good I guess.
Wtf did he do wrong? Hé Dropped while MAS and Gaudu Dropped too. What do you expect? Wout dropping Pogacar uphill?
@@wimdemoor5386 Some stages he has been helping others including Vingo but mostly he has been going for his own goals as I see it, do you not agree?
@@dkvikingkd233 He had it put in his contract that he could go for green. I think it's quite obvious that he never won't be a normal domestique. Regarding his UCI ranking and his capacities. I think Jumbo found a good balance. In Belgium they say he works too much for the team, offering his changes. In Danmark they probably say he works not enough for the team.
@@wimdemoor5386 Sure, but that was pretty much the gist of what I said and that's just not an optimal situation when you have a GC leader.
In all honesty Waut, as the superstar he is, should probably get his own team (or only go as captain without Vingo or Primoz) where he could go for stage wins because as you say he'll never be a regular domestique..
@@dkvikingkd233 His contribution in the cobblestonestage alone, is valuable enough to select him, i guess. Who else could have done that? Van Baarle, Kung? But with them the difference would have been bigger as Wout beats them in every timetrial. Almost every early attack was also a team order, and like Pogacar said yesterday, you don't attack if you know Wout waits to pace on the flat or a descent. I also think Jumbo wouldn't let go Wout nor Jonas. so somehow they will have to make it work. Which i think they did quit well
McNulty really surprised me today, I was really expecting him to drop off the front much earlier than he eventually did. I don't think Pogacar's performance bodes well for UAE for tomorrow. It's the same story as it has been the entire tour. Yes he can attack Vingegaard, and he can beat him in sprints, but he can't distance him. They are too well matched. Maybe tomorrow Vingegaard can even gain time, depending on how the power balance between the domestiques plays out, we'll see. If that happens, the Tour is technically over. Vingegaard would have to have a crash or something in the time trial for it to end up with Pogacar winning the tour in that scenario. If it stays at the current time gap, it's still a very tall order. He really would need to take at least half a minute (really closer to a minute) tomorrow for it to become somewhat likely that it might become a tight race.
Really hope Jonas puts 30 seconds on Pogs tomorrow. Jumbo needs to get their act tomorrow. The 40.5 k time trial will be super interesting. I have a feeling jonas will need atleast 2 mins.
@@vivekrbs Looks like I got my prediction right and you got what you wished for. :)
It seemed to me that Jumbo had done everything they needed to do up to the point UEA took over and since UEA was down to one man for Pogacar and they knew Vingegaard could mark Pogacar they gave their guys the day off on the last part. I know this sounds like too much, but if they attack tomorrow based on their guys getting an easier stage today I'd say I might be right.
I ALMOST had a big crash one time descending on the hoods. Not very fast (probably 45-50 kph), but I was talking with someone, and hit a bump I didn't see, and found myself lying on top of the bars with both arms flailing in the air. Somehow I was able to reach back and grab the bars with one hand and haul myself back into the saddle, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to try to replicate that save...
Still no French win ? Is this a first ever Tour without a local stage winner ?
I think there were only two Tours in history (1926 and 1999) with no French stage winners. It looks like there's going to be a third one.
Blew apart? Well everyone but the one who counts and 4” isn’t much of an explosion. Jonas is the man.
Tadej won the battle today, but Jonas is still winning the war. I suspect Bjerg was purposely being told to take it easy on the previous stages, even if it meant finishing last so that he could give it his all today. It's difficult to understand why Tadej did not attack today except in the last 200 metres, but he has to do it on the next stage, whatever the outcome. The worst that can happen is that Jonas remains with him or overtakes, but Tadej would still remain second. Who dares, wins!
With the work of his team today the stage win was the most important. I think he knew he couldn't drop Jonas so he did not want to poke the bear and lose in the ende. Jonas said the pace was abit slow on the last one.
Pogacar is tired
6,4 km from finish both uae riders took water/bidon, were water rules updated because of weather today ? .. pogacar won me some pocket money today :D (odds were 4:1) but few second before finish i thought its lost :-)
Yeah McNulty is an awful descender, but is in part due to the sh*t Pirelli tyres as Pogi called them in the Tour of Slovenia? Expect Campy drive chain and Pirelli tyre changes for next year, no?
+++++Free Cav!!!++++++
Spandelles its narrow and technical, first 3km step af
Benji, Jumbo is Jumbo not Iambo👍
Great commentary, Wout needs to chill
you say you hope Geschke keeps the polka dots, but ideally wouldnt it go to the "strongest climber"? I know it sucks having these GC riders take both yellow and climbers jersey i completely get that, but still i think both Pogacar and Vingegaard would 100% deserve it if they do end up winning it.
I also think McNulty was stronger, if he was a teammate of Vingegard and went on a harder pace then they could have dropped off Tadej earlier and then he could have gone for the stage too. Shame Jumbo didn't have a solid domestique on good form like Krujiswik in Dauphine's last stage, it could have played into the hands of Jonas.
I hope Jonas tries to drop Pogi again. He is a best climber of this race
Pogacar is afraid that, Vingegaard will attack early on stage… That’s why Pogacar makes those false attack, so he signals to Vingegaard that, don’t try attack me early on stage..
Poga may loose to G Thomas, if he goes too hard too earley, He dont play for second place. he will try but when? Down fromCol d Aubisque ???
Didn’t Bjerg do a similar mega pull last years tdf? Pretty sure. Anyone in the comments remember?
Can't remember that bjerg pulled in the mountains only formolo and majka
honestly don't even remember if he existed up until this tour !
Only thing I remember Bjerg doing in mountains was being in a breakaway roccaraso 2020
I found out, he did in fact do the same last year on stage 9 on the first couple climbs, dropping names like Porte, Kruijswijk, Geoghegan Hart
He was asked about it today and mentioned the stage last year
Please excuse my French ... :-)
UAE didn't blow anything apart. Maybe themselves. Towing Yellow to the finish isn't good tactics. Besides that I think it's very shady Bjerg can suddenly drop GC contestants on a climb.
Küng: 👀
Also Kuss yesterday
@@tobiasurey1434 Kuss did this many times before.
he droppped some because he put everythig he had in it , then he came in 22 minutes later. GC riders often bail out early to avoid blowing appart later on
I hope that Bjerg and McNulty just both somehow had a career day with great legs as neither have looked very impressive the entire race so far. I think they probably wanted to step up since nobody else is left on the team. But it does give a bit of a bad smell that they both all of a sudden looks this good. I certainly hope that they just both had career days, and believe that it is most likely the case.
It reaks of overnight injections. How can two mediocre domestiques drop the world's best climbers after being flogged for 15 stages ? To obvious to me considering what is on the line for pog
Pogacar is just a little bit stronger than Jonas. If Pogacar did not chase Roglic in the stage where he lost the yellow and stayed with Jonas. Yellow jersey would have been his.
I actually disagree with this assessment. JV has been glued to Pogi's wheel for two weeks now. He has no reason to attack and give Pogi a chance to counterattack. Another small observation was that Pogi was empty after today's stage while JV was a bit winded. For me that indicates that Pogi rode on his limit, while JV lost because his initial kick is worse than Pogi's
Tadej is tired. Very tired. Bad work from UAE for TdF2022. Jonas is waiting for real racing.
Those colnago bikes are shit at descents it seems, or, UAE needs to make a training camp with evenpole and the moto gp guys
There have been a number of perplexing Pogicar moments in this Tour (lack of attacks, false attacks, etc.)
They can all be explained by the fact that Vingo is stronger than Pogicar - and Pogacar knows it.
TYhis Tour Is not about Pogacar finding a way to dominate Vingo (there is not one). It is about hoping for Vingo to have a bad day and being there to capitalize if he does (spoiler - he won't) .
As amazing as Pogacar has been over the last 3 years, Vingo is the stronger rider - and this TDF will be the proof.
Its really not. Without WVA pacing and Roglic sacrifice Jonas would have never got those 2 minutes. At best there would be minimal gap between the two of them.
@@fangru7294 The JV team has certainly helped, buit I am convinced that if you put Pog and VBingo at the bottomof granon and Hautacam and say go - Vingo wins both. Maybe not a huge time gap but Pog cannot drop Vingo.
@@markdwelchforcongress4456 If they both fresh? Nah. They both equal. I am just saying if you switched teams it would end up same but with Pog winning. But they are only two who are above anyone in GC.
guys, the race was a bit longer than your podcast. who has this much time? wish you the best.
It's a podcast, you unwashed mouthbreather. There's also the 8-minute recaps over on the main Lanterne Rouge channel, hopefully you can get your eyes uncrossed for long enough to find them. wish you the best.