Jonas says that Carapaz was overplaying his pain on the easier sections, that's how he noticed he was bluffing. Plus Jonas's family was at the finish line so he wanted to win the stage.
My ideas for how the top ten can win/podium: Pogacar - just cross the line in Paris (9 times) Vingegaard - Attack on Tourmalet and have WVA in break to pace the descent Carapaz - Go in the break and be lucky. Pogacar crashing may be required Uran - Attack for once! Then do a good TT (Pogacar crashing required) O'Connor - Go in the break and win by 5+ minutes again Kelderman - Hope at least two of the top three crash and drop Uran, O'Connor with a good day frim Emu Mas - Take a shortcut tomorrow Lutsenko - Breakaway + luck Martin - Ride more quickly Bilbao - Steal Padun from Settimana Ciclistica Italiana and disguise him or try and ride half the distance by having the front wheel go in straight line. Morton - already won by five days Greipel - Drop everyone on Côte de Notre-Dame de Piétat. The rest of the peloton won't even make the time cut
Rolf Sørensen called Carapaz's bluff really early on that last climb on danish tv. He said when a rider is grimassing and grinding teeth like that and don't get dropped when other riders attack, something shady is up! Great call that early by Rolf Sørensen!! Vingegaard and Pogman told in interviews they had a short chat about Carapaz, i think 5k from the top, they almost said on top of each other that Carapaz was not on the limit like he wanted them to believe, and might attack soon!
When the Ineos team was announced, who would have had Castroviejo as 2nd in their team on GC, yet he was the only one one who rode the Giro. Also, feel better soon LR!
Lanterne, really pleased that you made the show, self employed is tough, fair play to you for showing up, I reckon that you must have been in a lot of pain.
Coming stage winners: 18: Jonas Vingegaard 19: Magnus Cort 20: Kasper Asgreen 21: Mads Pedersen (My nationality is classified information) Well, to be fair - Asgreen won't win the TT. But he might be the one attacking successfully on the Champs-Élysées. What? Am I a criminal for hoping?
Just think of your crash as a harrowing attempt to feel what the GC favorites and sprinters have experienced here in this Tour - putting some skin in the game, if you will ;) Great stage and episode! Also, Castro helped Carapaz close Pogacar's initial attack before then dropping off. Real MVP stuff from him today.
When I saw the post earlier I expected the breakdown with LR in a full body cast while his foot & arm are elevated in the hospital bed. Maybe the occasional nurse walking in the shot. Instead we have the most professional looking LR since the TDF started.
The mountain jersey guys like Woods, Poels, Quintana waste all their energy to outsprint each other for 2 points at a cat 3, then they have no energy left to make the break on a crucial stage like today, leading to a weak break forming that has no chance of staying away so the GC guys can scoop up the big points at the finish. If they are not in the break tomorrow I tap out.
It's time to change the rules for the polkadot jersey. We've seen years after years that giving points at the summit is stupid. It promotes dummy breakaways and 150m sprints at the top, only to end up with the yellow jersey winning it in Paris because he won some big stages. Make a mountain GC, with timing from bottom to top. That is technically possible and would actually require a team support to battle for this parallel GC. Imagine riders going full gas on hills, imagine the tactics, imagine teams that aren't good enough for the win preserving themselves the whole day and 15 minutes after the favorites, make a full 6+ riders uphill train for the last climber.
@@swe223 I don't think that's realistic - teams with a proper climbing team would rather spend their efforts for the yellow dream than on a secondary classification. And on your point of the yellow jersey winning it: that's only happened twice in the last 10 years, and both times it was quite a battle as well. Sometimes it's quite boring, or unfair (bardet in 2019), but it can bring some very entertaining and tactical racing. It can be revamped, but your suggestion would be way too drastic.
They should definitely get rid of the double points at the moutain finishes, in all honesty, it doesn't add anything. And why should it be double points to start with? Isn't a win on such stages and the (usually) already high points from the difficult climb enough?
@@MichaelBoogerd Pog might be the strongest climber, but if you only have to win essentially 2 major climbs and 1-2 medium ones to win it and have your entire team working for you to do it, it is kind of stupid. If you want the best climber win regardless, fine, but then do it in some other way. Imo is the current polka dot classification kind of stupid/unnecessary, riders waste time and energy on it, only to then possibly lose to someone that just get points 2-3 times. At least take points away on the smaller climbs and have only like category HC, 1 and possibly 2 have points at least you'll see less riders waste their time and energy on it. Or time everyone's climbing on the higher category climbs and add it up like GC, sure GC contenders can still win, but if they take a "rest day" in a mountain stage, while some others go all out there and then do pretty fine too in the others, you might get some different results. It would also be fairer, since with points you might take points by only sprinting at the last few hundred meters, while having done nothing but sit in the wheel the entire climb, how would that make you the better climber. Anyway, I'd say the entire Polka dot classification needs an overhaul or just dissapear. Then the old combination jersey might be more interesting, for example for the best combo sprint/climbing, maybe a best descender jersey might even be nicer imo at this moment, or something like best "classics racer/medium climber" for the smaller hills. Hell, even a best breakaway rider might be better, though not sure how you would qualify that.
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast I think Pogacar also trying to show a dominant performance this year to balance his surprising and amazing one-single-shot TdF 2020 edition. Like a "it wasn't out of luck" statement. Great, really great content this year guys
latour jersey unzipped flapping in the wind fighting for those three meters on bastille day was too perfect. Pogacar and vingegaard embraced after the stage actually jonas appreciated pogacar just sitting on carapaz obviously as he fought back... and obviously Tadej appreciated all the strong work. 22 & 24 year olds both strong as an ox world class athletes but off the bike I think Tadej looks like an altar boy and Jonas seriously seems like most humble young man in peloton. Those attacks always came with jonas on his wheel in an effort to drop carapaz and push on. Pogacar was explaining on the rollers after the stage they both knew he was bluffing along with how strongly he wanted the win... just cycling he said. Fair play to carapaz they couldn't drop him but fiddling with his garmin was hysterical. Taking hands of your bike on that mountain at that speed has to take more strength lol he is committed and crafty though :) Feel better LR
I am happy that you honored Geraint Thomas and the podcast 😂 It was a good stage today, but I have to say that compared to the Giro this Tour is super boring, I hope Roglič will be healthy for Vuelta, and also Bernal could put up a fight for the Giro-Vuelta double.
Good to hear LR that you are ok. Unfortunately for me I just joined the fraternity with a fractured clavicle last week. A rock jumped out at me while mtn biking
Also agree with yall, I thought Richard made a mistake attacking too early, he should have waited for the final 200m to attack. Still really nice battle between the 3 lead guys
Yeah but how much time is he gna make in the last 200m? Pog was always going to smoke him in the sprint but Carapaz needs to put some serious time into Jonas, more than he'll get in 200m
@@adamdickinson2894 I think he was trying to win the stage more than anything else, he'd have to put over a minute in Jonas to be safe in TT and that didn't look like it was happening, a win would have been great for the team, time over JV would be gravy 👍🏾
I think he just attacked 500m too early (he attacked about 1.5k out) and looked strong till 500 to go. Id say stage win was impossible with Pogi too strong but he could have put a bit of time into Jonas. Anyways, he fought well today. I do really believe that he suffered a lot to keep their wheel. And to then pull out such an attack was just amazing. Gotta say I've become a Carapaz fan over this tour (maybe it already started last years vuelta) 😅
Heal quickly, LR! Glad to see you could make it. Perez keeps showing up in breaks. Fun to watch for him. Jonas- so impressed! He's so strong and dogged. Keeps coming back. Carapez- played pretty much the only card he had. I know many are not happy with him, but he did his job. Kept that grimace a very long time and did no work and that was suspicious. He managed to stay with the attacks and he then attacks. Too early? Pog- loved how he kept trying to shake Jonas. Made for a great finish. It wasn't a solo, but it was entertaining! Much more entertaining than yesterday's stage. Thanks for the great job with the analysis! Hope you feel better, LR.
LR- please tell us you weren't wearing a pair of classic white Oakley Jawbones....props for pushing through the pain and dropping another sweet track with everyone's favorite Grogu guardian. Cheers boys.
Sorry about the crash ….. hope you’re OK and recover well ASAP. Hope the bike is OK as well. Sure you’ll be back on a trainer soon. Always watch your pods every evening, and always look forwards to it popping up in the notification ….. keep it up you guys. 👊
Any comment by either of you on the seemingly spectacular collapse of ISN today? Whole team lined up to pace for Dan Martin ( including Froome) and then after a couple of mins fell apart leaving Martin looking like a stunned mullet.
Love the spiel on Ineos' website on today's stage: "Richard Carapaz put in a strong and measured late attack on stage 17" ... 'measured' as if he had more in the tank and just 'decided' not to dig really deep in that last attack from 1,4 km out 😂
5:10 LR you forgot to mention that the Le Col kit protected you and sacrificed itself for you, that's why you have no broken bones !! ( I'm proud of this promotion i just made foor free 🤣🤣🤣 )
thanks guys for a great podcast. was really entertaining. Tomorrow could be someone from the breakaway... maybe carapaz taking some seconds from Jonas, although Jonas is really strong so far. pogacar strolling to the top with whichever GC rider will be in front of him and occasionally attacking just because... for the show
I think Kwiatkowski or Cattaneo could win from the break tomorrow both good on those steady gradient climbs. There are a lot of people i would like to see in the break tommorrow: Matthews, Colbrelli, Higuita, Poels, Nairoman, Gaudu, Woods, WvA, Paret-Peintre, Alaphilippe, Valverde, Superman. pretty unlikely unfortunately but that would guarantee fireworks throughout the stage
Ineos need to win a stage tomorrow to salvage something from this race, Carapaz isn't finishing higher than 3rd in GC, wouldn't be surprised if they try to send 2 or 3 riders into the break tomorrow.
I think Carapaz attacked at the right time because he needs to put serious time into Vingegard. If he attacks in the last few hundred metres then even if it's THERMONUCLEAR then he's only going to put 10-20s into Jonas. He needed attack further out and just hope Jonas had overextended himself to put at least 30s into him. Just my thoughts though
LR, glad you were able to overcome your injuries to do the show, but it has to feel good knowing Benji would be there to do a great job if you had to abandon for a day…Tomorrow, I’m also looking for Jumbo to take the race to the peloton, but if I can get better than 1000-1 odds on Andre Greipel, he’s my pick tomorrow
Surely the breakaway will win tomorrow. Mountain stages are usually won from the breakaway anyway, and it's very hard for a whole team to light it up the next day again. You have to go back 3 years for the last time someone from the favourites' group won two mountain stages in a row. And it's even less likely in the 3rd week, it hasn't happened since 2015 with the Sky train in full pomp. I guess that's why the KoM contenders were holding it back when they saw the tempo was far too fast and Pogacar was going for the stage. Now Woods, Poels and Quintana are fresh and neither of them are a threat in GC.
Seeing gaudu's resurgence in the third week - could he win tomorrow? breakaway or attack from the gc group? who should try attacking on the tourmalet to bridge to a satellite rider?
Hope you get back on your bike soon LR , if its not too damaged. I hit a pedestrian, who stepped out in front of me, at 35 kph and broke my neck 6 years ago. He got up and walked away!
Speaking of kit getting shredded, what happened to the 'armoured' kit that Sunweb were trialling last year or the year before? Glad you're holding up anyway, LR.
If there's a white jersey for best rider under 25 years old, does that mean riders aren't expected to win until mid-late 20s? Because that doesn't seem to be a factor right now
Poels need a big breakaway tomorrow to win the polkadot. There should be a few Dutch people willing to help him and Kelderman could donate a few teammates who'll later function as satellite riders for him.
@@MDP1702 hard anybody to drop Pog in climb, but as people said nobody is faster then Roglic in last 400m uphill finish. Roglic has a lot of wins from races where is finish uphill, even flat stage, but is is the end 500m uphill, he often win over sprinters.
@@markopodganjek845 Pog didn't seem his strongest today. Strong yes, but not strongest. I do believe a good Roglic could have dropped him here, even if only in the last 1,5km or so.
Hot takes: Stay on top of those pain meds, LR! Wishing you and your bike a speedy recovery. -Jonas Vingegaard has a fan for life in my book 👊. - On Friday not matter what I get to see a piece of history in the making, from a bike and in Le Col bibs, when either Wout or Cav wins 'cause I'm HERE for a sprint finale' Whoop! - Thx LR crew for being dedicated and keeping me fired up ❤. Live your dreams.
Sounded like a pretty rough crash, hope you manage to sleep ok with the road rash (could always neck moar painkillers!). I honestly don't know how the pros hop back on the bike and finish the Tour after some of these crashes, they must have some seriously hench pain thresholds. Rest up dude
Good to see P is alright. Kelderman crashed before the last climb, bloody knee and chin. Carapaz a bit of a bitch move to which he is fully entitled. And my prediction was wrong, Pogacar won.
Lanterne I have to ask, were you following Geraint Thomas' wheel when you crashed?
He followed Woods down a hairpin
Hi trtttrrrrrrr
Such a crash-heavy Tour that even the vloggers are going down.
LRCP boys are the best. LR didn’t even OTL today.
The real question everyone's asking after today's stage. Is the bike okay Lanterne? haha
In light of its absence from the background, I fear it may not be 😞
@@captainsushi24 is that not it in the bottom right corner of Lanterne’s screen?
@@ollieoxley7382 Track Pump
Really Is the bi,e dead? Hows your insurance coverage?
New bike then?🤘
LR again sets the standard, declining the convenient excuse to drop out of the TdF to focus on the Olympics. 👏👏👏 Get well soon!🤕
Benji 🤣🤣😂 " his DS asked him how many times you're gonna attack and Pogacar said yes " 🏆
Shout out to Benji for bringing all the jokes today as LR is way to chilled out on pain killers to laugh hahah.
Respect to LR for making it
Tadej and Jonas will be sharing a drink tonight plotting how to stuff Carapaz tomorrow
Benji pronouncing Vingegaard the right way, love it!
Jonas says that Carapaz was overplaying his pain on the easier sections, that's how he noticed he was bluffing. Plus Jonas's family was at the finish line so he wanted to win the stage.
Welcome back, Lanterne Rouge.
But Benji was right again.
Pogacar won the stage.
My ideas for how the top ten can win/podium:
Pogacar - just cross the line in Paris (9 times)
Vingegaard - Attack on Tourmalet and have WVA in break to pace the descent
Carapaz - Go in the break and be lucky. Pogacar crashing may be required
Uran - Attack for once! Then do a good TT (Pogacar crashing required)
O'Connor - Go in the break and win by 5+ minutes again
Kelderman - Hope at least two of the top three crash and drop Uran, O'Connor with a good day frim Emu
Mas - Take a shortcut tomorrow
Lutsenko - Breakaway + luck
Martin - Ride more quickly
Bilbao - Steal Padun from Settimana Ciclistica Italiana and disguise him or try and ride half the distance by having the front wheel go in straight line.
Morton - already won by five days
Greipel - Drop everyone on Côte de Notre-Dame de Piétat. The rest of the peloton won't even make the time cut
Froome can win with either a meteor strike on the rest of the peleton or everyone going the wrong way from the Arc De Triumph!
@@NickYoung_Original So you can do better or just with your big mouth?! 😂💦
@@domestique3954 I couldn't beat Cavendish in a Time Trial. I like the fact that Morton won old style.
DS:"Pog how many times will you attack?" Pog:"Yes." 😅
Props LR for completing the podcast - that's painful!
I'm so impressed with Jumb Visma. The whole team rides with "GANNAS". BRAVO TEAM!!!
We appreciate your effort despite the crash! Thanks!
Rolf Sørensen called Carapaz's bluff really early on that last climb on danish tv. He said when a rider is grimassing and grinding teeth like that and don't get dropped when other riders attack, something shady is up! Great call that early by Rolf Sørensen!!
Vingegaard and Pogman told in interviews they had a short chat about Carapaz, i think 5k from the top, they almost said on top of each other that Carapaz was not on the limit like he wanted them to believe, and might attack soon!
RIM BRAKES!
Gaudu is looking strong, what a shame for France that he was sick a couple of days!
There’s so much pressure for French riders to do well
When the Ineos team was announced, who would have had Castroviejo as 2nd in their team on GC, yet he was the only one one who rode the Giro.
Also, feel better soon LR!
His bridge to Pogacar's first attack was commendable.
Lanterne, really pleased that you made the show, self employed is tough, fair play to you for showing up, I reckon that you must have been in a lot of pain.
Coming stage winners:
18: Jonas Vingegaard
19: Magnus Cort
20: Kasper Asgreen
21: Mads Pedersen
(My nationality is classified information)
Well, to be fair - Asgreen won't win the TT. But he might be the one attacking successfully on the Champs-Élysées.
What? Am I a criminal for hoping?
im gonna guess you are from sweden 😃😃
@@jcksn8175 Good one 😉👍
18: Pogačar
19: Mohorič
20: Pogačar
21: Mezgec
Now the big question... Where do I come from? 🤔😆
@@AdrrejHanzelj Croatia? 🤔🤓
@@mrloop1530 damn man... If you knew the situation here you would know that this is actually an insult 😂😂😂
Just think of your crash as a harrowing attempt to feel what the GC favorites and sprinters have experienced here in this Tour - putting some skin in the game, if you will ;) Great stage and episode!
Also, Castro helped Carapaz close Pogacar's initial attack before then dropping off. Real MVP stuff from him today.
Have a speedy recovery!
When I saw the post earlier I expected the breakdown with LR in a full body cast while his foot & arm are elevated in the hospital bed. Maybe the occasional nurse walking in the shot. Instead we have the most professional looking LR since the TDF started.
That’s how we know he must feel really off 😂
Castro is such an underrated team-mate. He was sensational today, chapeau
castro is like kwiato without the world championship and classics wins
Glad you’re ok! Appreciate what you do. Here’s to a speedy recovery.
The mountain jersey guys like Woods, Poels, Quintana waste all their energy to outsprint each other for 2 points at a cat 3, then they have no energy left to make the break on a crucial stage like today, leading to a weak break forming that has no chance of staying away so the GC guys can scoop up the big points at the finish. If they are not in the break tomorrow I tap out.
It's time to change the rules for the polkadot jersey. We've seen years after years that giving points at the summit is stupid. It promotes dummy breakaways and 150m sprints at the top, only to end up with the yellow jersey winning it in Paris because he won some big stages. Make a mountain GC, with timing from bottom to top. That is technically possible and would actually require a team support to battle for this parallel GC. Imagine riders going full gas on hills, imagine the tactics, imagine teams that aren't good enough for the win preserving themselves the whole day and 15 minutes after the favorites, make a full 6+ riders uphill train for the last climber.
@@swe223 I don't think that's realistic - teams with a proper climbing team would rather spend their efforts for the yellow dream than on a secondary classification.
And on your point of the yellow jersey winning it: that's only happened twice in the last 10 years, and both times it was quite a battle as well. Sometimes it's quite boring, or unfair (bardet in 2019), but it can bring some very entertaining and tactical racing. It can be revamped, but your suggestion would be way too drastic.
They should definitely get rid of the double points at the moutain finishes, in all honesty, it doesn't add anything. And why should it be double points to start with? Isn't a win on such stages and the (usually) already high points from the difficult climb enough?
@@nolketasma4061 Yeah, I know it is unrealistic and crazy. I just want something better and a bit more interesting. ;)
@@MichaelBoogerd Pog might be the strongest climber, but if you only have to win essentially 2 major climbs and 1-2 medium ones to win it and have your entire team working for you to do it, it is kind of stupid.
If you want the best climber win regardless, fine, but then do it in some other way.
Imo is the current polka dot classification kind of stupid/unnecessary, riders waste time and energy on it, only to then possibly lose to someone that just get points 2-3 times. At least take points away on the smaller climbs and have only like category HC, 1 and possibly 2 have points at least you'll see less riders waste their time and energy on it. Or time everyone's climbing on the higher category climbs and add it up like GC, sure GC contenders can still win, but if they take a "rest day" in a mountain stage, while some others go all out there and then do pretty fine too in the others, you might get some different results. It would also be fairer, since with points you might take points by only sprinting at the last few hundred meters, while having done nothing but sit in the wheel the entire climb, how would that make you the better climber.
Anyway, I'd say the entire Polka dot classification needs an overhaul or just dissapear. Then the old combination jersey might be more interesting, for example for the best combo sprint/climbing, maybe a best descender jersey might even be nicer imo at this moment, or something like best "classics racer/medium climber" for the smaller hills. Hell, even a best breakaway rider might be better, though not sure how you would qualify that.
Very convincing assessment of the Pogacar mindset and approach, from Benji. Pure class, as usual. 👌
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@LanterneRougeCyclingPodcast I think Pogacar also trying to show a dominant performance this year to balance his surprising and amazing one-single-shot TdF 2020 edition. Like a "it wasn't out of luck" statement. Great, really great content this year guys
latour jersey unzipped flapping in the wind fighting for those three meters on bastille day was too perfect. Pogacar and vingegaard embraced after the stage actually jonas appreciated pogacar just sitting on carapaz obviously as he fought back... and obviously Tadej appreciated all the strong work. 22 & 24 year olds both strong as an ox world class athletes but off the bike I think Tadej looks like an altar boy and Jonas seriously seems like most humble young man in peloton. Those attacks always came with jonas on his wheel in an effort to drop carapaz and push on. Pogacar was explaining on the rollers after the stage they both knew he was bluffing along with how strongly he wanted the win... just cycling he said. Fair play to carapaz they couldn't drop him but fiddling with his garmin was hysterical. Taking hands of your bike on that mountain at that speed has to take more strength lol he is committed and crafty though :) Feel better LR
I am happy that you honored Geraint Thomas and the podcast 😂 It was a good stage today, but I have to say that compared to the Giro this Tour is super boring, I hope Roglič will be healthy for Vuelta, and also Bernal could put up a fight for the Giro-Vuelta double.
Good to hear LR that you are ok. Unfortunately for me I just joined the fraternity with a fractured clavicle last week. A rock jumped out at me while mtn biking
Wish ya a good recovery. 🙏
Good recovery!
Also agree with yall, I thought Richard made a mistake attacking too early, he should have waited for the final 200m to attack. Still really nice battle between the 3 lead guys
Yeah but how much time is he gna make in the last 200m? Pog was always going to smoke him in the sprint but Carapaz needs to put some serious time into Jonas, more than he'll get in 200m
@@adamdickinson2894 I think he was trying to win the stage more than anything else, he'd have to put over a minute in Jonas to be safe in TT and that didn't look like it was happening, a win would have been great for the team, time over JV would be gravy 👍🏾
I think he just attacked 500m too early (he attacked about 1.5k out) and looked strong till 500 to go. Id say stage win was impossible with Pogi too strong but he could have put a bit of time into Jonas.
Anyways, he fought well today. I do really believe that he suffered a lot to keep their wheel. And to then pull out such an attack was just amazing. Gotta say I've become a Carapaz fan over this tour (maybe it already started last years vuelta) 😅
@@tobigm1917 good point 👊🏾 yeah I'm a big fan of his, he seems friendly but extremely determined
Heal quickly, LR! Glad to see you could make it.
Perez keeps showing up in breaks. Fun to watch for him.
Jonas- so impressed! He's so strong and dogged. Keeps coming back.
Carapez- played pretty much the only card he had. I know many are not happy with him, but he did his job. Kept that grimace a very long time and did no work and that was suspicious. He managed to stay with the attacks and he then attacks. Too early?
Pog- loved how he kept trying to shake Jonas. Made for a great finish. It wasn't a solo, but it was entertaining!
Much more entertaining than yesterday's stage.
Thanks for the great job with the analysis! Hope you feel better, LR.
LR- please tell us you weren't wearing a pair of classic white Oakley Jawbones....props for pushing through the pain and dropping another sweet track with everyone's favorite Grogu guardian. Cheers boys.
We appreciate your podcast!!get well champ!! LR #PeaceLoveandRespect from #Botswana 🇧🇼#PositiveVibrationz
Glad youre fine and just have some road rash!
Sorry about the crash ….. hope you’re OK and recover well ASAP. Hope the bike is OK as well. Sure you’ll be back on a trainer soon. Always watch your pods every evening, and always look forwards to it popping up in the notification ….. keep it up you guys. 👊
Any comment by either of you on the seemingly spectacular collapse of ISN today? Whole team lined up to pace for Dan Martin ( including Froome) and then after a couple of mins fell apart leaving Martin looking like a stunned mullet.
Chapeau for finishing the stage after a heavy crash!
No but for real, hope you can recover well dude. Sending you good vibes from Colombia.
Hope LR feels better soon. Great analysis thanks.
Just wondering what Wiggins was on in the interview afterwards… “UAE dropped quite early, ineos has a chance now” such a Ineos bias.
Wiggins has had some awful takes😂
At a certain point it looked like a slight headwind up the climb, which may explain why Pogacar had trouble dropping the other two
Feel better soon LR!
Feel better LR!
Love the spiel on Ineos' website on today's stage: "Richard Carapaz put in a strong and measured late attack on stage 17" ... 'measured' as if he had more in the tank and just 'decided' not to dig really deep in that last attack from 1,4 km out 😂
5:10 LR you forgot to mention that the Le Col kit protected you and sacrificed itself for you, that's why you have no broken bones !! ( I'm proud of this promotion i just made foor free 🤣🤣🤣 )
First LRCP while high?
You think. 😜 - Benji
That's a joke. 🙈 - Benji
Get the ladies hairdryer on those burns LTR make sure it's got a cold air setting though!
love this show!!! keep up the good work lads.
Great photo of Pogačar.He is enjoving himself.
This was a good stage. Pog is either on a great cocktail or he's incredibly strong or both. Glad Carapaz's little act didn't pay off.
LR is okay!!! Hurrah!
thanks guys for a great podcast. was really entertaining. Tomorrow could be someone from the breakaway... maybe carapaz taking some seconds from Jonas, although Jonas is really strong so far. pogacar strolling to the top with whichever GC rider will be in front of him and occasionally attacking just because... for the show
Lanterne Rougelic with all that mummification going on.
I think Kwiatkowski or Cattaneo could win from the break tomorrow both good on those steady gradient climbs. There are a lot of people i would like to see in the break tommorrow: Matthews, Colbrelli, Higuita, Poels, Nairoman, Gaudu, Woods, WvA, Paret-Peintre, Alaphilippe, Valverde, Superman. pretty unlikely unfortunately but that would guarantee fireworks throughout the stage
Ineos need to win a stage tomorrow to salvage something from this race, Carapaz isn't finishing higher than 3rd in GC, wouldn't be surprised if they try to send 2 or 3 riders into the break tomorrow.
@@slahudeenhussain5297 true but there will stiff competition from other teams
Sorry about the crash. Get well quickly.
I think Carapaz attacked at the right time because he needs to put serious time into Vingegard. If he attacks in the last few hundred metres then even if it's THERMONUCLEAR then he's only going to put 10-20s into Jonas. He needed attack further out and just hope Jonas had overextended himself to put at least 30s into him. Just my thoughts though
LR, glad you were able to overcome your injuries to do the show, but it has to feel good knowing Benji would be there to do a great job if you had to abandon for a day…Tomorrow, I’m also looking for Jumbo to take the race to the peloton, but if I can get better than 1000-1 odds on Andre Greipel, he’s my pick tomorrow
Surely the breakaway will win tomorrow. Mountain stages are usually won from the breakaway anyway, and it's very hard for a whole team to light it up the next day again.
You have to go back 3 years for the last time someone from the favourites' group won two mountain stages in a row.
And it's even less likely in the 3rd week, it hasn't happened since 2015 with the Sky train in full pomp.
I guess that's why the KoM contenders were holding it back when they saw the tempo was far too fast and Pogacar was going for the stage. Now Woods, Poels and Quintana are fresh and neither of them are a threat in GC.
Crashing on a bicycle is always a embarrassing and painful experience 😬
DENMARK - Drop Fuglsang, get Vingegaard, win a road race medal in Tokyo.
There was an old expression, flesh heals Colnago doesnt. Hope that you and you bike are ok
Dylan Teuns 10th place on the stage today & he wasn’t even in the breakaway. That is crazy
Baby Yoda thought his time had finally come. Hope LR‘s ok :)
Get well soon, LR! (had a minor crash yesterday, lets see who can grow new skin faster! ;-)
Omg LR i just saw you crached 😱 i wish you a good recovery ! 🙏❤️
Benji and LR I have a question: what's your opinion on the Tour de Tietema 'gate'?
Seeing gaudu's resurgence in the third week - could he win tomorrow? breakaway or attack from the gc group?
who should try attacking on the tourmalet to bridge to a satellite rider?
Good call.
Get well soon boi
Get well soon LR😢
Hope you get back on your bike soon LR , if its not too damaged. I hit a pedestrian, who stepped out in front of me, at 35 kph and broke my neck 6 years ago. He got up and walked away!
We need you to do a Roglic and show us your scars.
Get well LR!
O'Connor declined a place in the Olympics - L.hamilton is still in doubt with a dislocated shoulder.
Speaking of kit getting shredded, what happened to the 'armoured' kit that Sunweb were trialling last year or the year before? Glad you're holding up anyway, LR.
I read that as 'kid' and it was a disturbing experience. 😂
@@BenjiNaesenTV I can imagine, shredded or armoured!
Take care of yourself LR! Riding is a necessity but slow down on those descents!
If there's a white jersey for best rider under 25 years old, does that mean riders aren't expected to win until mid-late 20s? Because that doesn't seem to be a factor right now
Pogacar might win tomorrow b/c he wants to take the mountains jersey
Hopped up? What is this LA circa 1949 ?
Did you notice the laser pointer attacks on Pogi? That was awful.
Kelderman crashing before the last climb is really typical
Woods for the pokadot jersey!
Poels need a big breakaway tomorrow to win the polkadot. There should be a few Dutch people willing to help him and Kelderman could donate a few teammates who'll later function as satellite riders for him.
Take care of that road rash Patrick.
Not sure if Roglic could have done any better today than Jonas V..nice job!
He would.
Roglic is great uphill sprinter.
He could win in finish
I think he'd indeed win on the finish imo if he is in good shape. I honestly wouldn't have been suprised if he'd drop Pogacar on this climb.
@@MDP1702 hard anybody to drop Pog in climb, but as people said nobody is faster then Roglic in last 400m uphill finish. Roglic has a lot of wins from races where is finish uphill, even flat stage, but is is the end 500m uphill, he often win over sprinters.
@@markopodganjek845 Pog didn't seem his strongest today. Strong yes, but not strongest. I do believe a good Roglic could have dropped him here, even if only in the last 1,5km or so.
Hot takes: Stay on top of those pain meds, LR! Wishing you and your bike a speedy recovery.
-Jonas Vingegaard has a fan for life in my book 👊.
- On Friday not matter what I get to see a piece of history in the making, from a bike and in Le Col bibs, when either Wout or Cav wins 'cause I'm HERE for a sprint finale' Whoop!
- Thx LR crew for being dedicated and keeping me fired up ❤. Live your dreams.
Honestly can’t believe you turned up for work … great stuff…. And rest well.
Sounded like a pretty rough crash, hope you manage to sleep ok with the road rash (could always neck moar painkillers!). I honestly don't know how the pros hop back on the bike and finish the Tour after some of these crashes, they must have some seriously hench pain thresholds. Rest up dude
LANTERNE THE UNBREAKABLE
And you didn't notice pogacar using rim brakes today?
He did so half the year already. In races like UAE as well.
Good to see P is alright.
Kelderman crashed before the last climb, bloody knee and chin. Carapaz a bit of a bitch move to which he is fully entitled. And my prediction was wrong, Pogacar won.
Everyone's wrong the majority of the time in cycling predictions, thaha. The greatness lies in admitting you were. 👍 - Benji
Bilbao has done 2 Giros and 2 Tours in the last 9 months .. Maybe the Spanish team thinks he wont have the legs / form for the olympics
Jumbo says Kruijswijk was battling illness starting on the rest day.
Hope she covers your damage costs...
This woman who stepped out in front of you: was she holding a cardboard sign?
Hope you can get some sleep tonight. Get well soon. xxx
Lanterne Rouge - Tim Declercq - DECEUNINCK - QUICK - STEP - 144th place
Tractorrrrrrrrrr
Rather these podcasts said who won right off and explain what led to it.