Have you ever had that you're listening to an episode late, and then immediately after the 'ciao', patrick hits you with a new 'welcome back to the LRCP', the best feeling.
I'm Swiss and I'm so excited for the world championships taking place here with almost all the big names🎉🎉 only Reusser being fit&healthy could make it even better😢
Kopecky also crashed at the Olympic ITT. Think when Tarling skipped U23 last year he also said it would be a bit unfair with him being on a full Ineos TT setup competing against guys on normal equipment.
I feel like who's riding the U23 worlds is mostly sorting itself out anyway- like we see a few riders there who might raise an eyebrow, but if they think they're competitive for the mens they compete there, remco, pogi, skelmose, girmay, jorgensen all skipped U23 that they would have been competitive for (sometimes in favour of the ME, but sometimes skipping all together- I guess winning the jersey would feel slightly pointless if you'd never get to actually wear it in a competition), this year Tarling, Onley, Ayuso, Sheffield and Vacek (among other's) are skipping the U23 in preference for ME Maybe del toro shouldn't be eligible for U23, but he's 20! as much as he's had some success at elite level he's so young
Another thing with the U23 discussion, some riders might really want to achieve a certain goal. For example Segaert wants to win U23 WC which he hasn't succeeded a yet and which is why he rode U23 EC ITT. With this rule you prevent riders from achieving such a goal. For all we know he'll never win WC ITT with the pro's, so being WC ITT at the U23 is then something special to have.
What do you think about Pogacar? Should he have ridden this course or does he have no chance at all? How much would the time trial have influenced his road race preparation? And what do you think are the chances that he retires with a time trial WC?
What is with people thinking Roglic has a chance on this course? It isn't at all good for him. Him podiuming would be an upset. Top 5 would be a great result.
@@MDP1702 1) This course is not pancake flat, you might wanna check Tokyo Olympics TT or Basque country stage 1 as well where he won. 2) Longer courses suit him more and 3) he is fresh off of his Vuelta where on flat TT he was close to Stefan Kung in the final stage and he didn't even push max because of his diarrhea (caused by Salmonella). It is well known Benji hates Roglic, so bare me your sympathy please. Whether or not he podiums is a different story.
@@torontocyclingI'm Rogla all the way but Küng just lost 10s to affini on a flat tt in the european championships and got 8th in the olympics in a flat tt, losing 1.35 on remco. Yes, roglic is a strong time trialist but on the flat sections he is currently not able to match the likes of ganna, tarling and remco. I'd be nice to see him win a medal, but the jersey seems out of reach
@@torontocycling 1) The Tokyo olympics course was very hilly and nearly constantly up and down. It was 17 vertical meters/km vs 8,8 now. Itzulia was 18 and Remco didn't even go full after his early crash, it being only a short TT stage in a longer stage race. 33,5km is almost completely flat straight, perfect for the pure TT riders and bad for Roglic who shines in technical/risky and hilly TT's. Yes, the hill section should suite him more than anyone but Remco, however it also shouldn't have too much of an impact. Most is 5-6% of less, still very doable for most strong riders to not lose too much time on. 2) They most certainly don't. Even his own trainer said he suffers with race exhaustion and non-pure TT riders generally suffer more the longer a TT goes on, since then the impact of lesser cda vs power really makes a big impact. Maybe longer very hilly/mountainous ones, but not long (semi-)flat ones. 3) He wasn't close to Küng (30") and the last ITT in a 21 day race doesn't necessarily say much. Affini was 1'05 slower than Kung and beat him 3 days later in the EC. Küng isn't at the level of Ganna, Tarling and Remco normally too. And ofcourse there is the great chance of decompression with Roglic after the Vuelta too, though I don't count it in. Imo (if everyone is at good level) Remco, Tarling, Ganna all should definitely be ahead him (normally WVA too). Küng likely too (better on the flat and was climbing good in the Vuelta). Then we have riders like McNulty, sheffield, Cattaneo, Affini, Almeida, Bjerg who also could do a good result on a course like this, not all better than Roglic ofcourse, but some possibly. This is why I'd say Roglic riding top 5 would already be a really good result for him and podiuming a fantastic result.
Had a Turk cabbie try to divert us to a rug shop. We refused to exit the vehicle. The cabbie freaked out and descended the mountain to town like Safa Brian. It was scary as f#¢k
Have you ever had that you're listening to an episode late, and then immediately after the 'ciao', patrick hits you with a new 'welcome back to the LRCP', the best feeling.
Thanks for rescuing me from my Turkish cab driver Benji Neesen
Is nobody gonna talk about Patricks fresh new haircut?🔥
That's his little brother
As an American I have to pull for Sheffield. Goal #1...don't crash!! Goal #2...podium spot.
Lantere Rouge looks like he is speaking into a police radar speed gun!
Good sound quality for LR.
That's not a cab ride, that's a kidnapping
Let's just say it was a wild evening
Grace Brown for the femmes. Olympic/Worlds double.
This is it
I'm Swiss and I'm so excited for the world championships taking place here with almost all the big names🎉🎉 only Reusser being fit&healthy could make it even better😢
Yaeh, it´s a shame seeing her suffering from "Post-Vac"...
@@billbushwick813 *Post-Covid
That downhill and kick back up is very twisty and narrow especially where it gets steep. Hopefully everyone stays upright 🤞
Kopecky also crashed at the Olympic ITT.
Think when Tarling skipped U23 last year he also said it would be a bit unfair with him being on a full Ineos TT setup competing against guys on normal equipment.
I feel like who's riding the U23 worlds is mostly sorting itself out anyway- like we see a few riders there who might raise an eyebrow, but if they think they're competitive for the mens they compete there, remco, pogi, skelmose, girmay, jorgensen all skipped U23 that they would have been competitive for (sometimes in favour of the ME, but sometimes skipping all together- I guess winning the jersey would feel slightly pointless if you'd never get to actually wear it in a competition), this year Tarling, Onley, Ayuso, Sheffield and Vacek (among other's) are skipping the U23 in preference for ME
Maybe del toro shouldn't be eligible for U23, but he's 20! as much as he's had some success at elite level he's so young
Another thing with the U23 discussion, some riders might really want to achieve a certain goal. For example Segaert wants to win U23 WC which he hasn't succeeded a yet and which is why he rode U23 EC ITT. With this rule you prevent riders from achieving such a goal.
For all we know he'll never win WC ITT with the pro's, so being WC ITT at the U23 is then something special to have.
You could also do a U23 classification for the elite race, kinda like the white jersey in grand tours
11:32 Remco was fastest on that hill section in the first TdF ITT though. He lost time in the descent afterwards.
What do you think about Pogacar? Should he have ridden this course or does he have no chance at all? How much would the time trial have influenced his road race preparation? And what do you think are the chances that he retires with a time trial WC?
Time Trial WC should be really difficult considering that both Remco and Tarling are younger than him.
change the under 23's to under 21's. This makes it a simple progression from juniors.
They will be riding the Zürich Gold Coast at the end of the TT. Most of the riders won't ever be able to afford to live there.
Should change it to U21
Why isn't Ayuso on Spain's roster? The track looks a lot like TdS 2023 stage 8 to me.
Right in the end...."Same with Mo???"
Anyone? Morgado?
Why only one starter for Slovenia? Even Tanzania is sending two guys... And Afghanistan and Bermuda... weird stuff
They are allowed to send 2, if only Roglic ride, that is a choice of the Slovenian delegation.
Roglic put out 6.9 watts per kg for 25 minutes in the Vuelta. Don't discount him!
What's with the Roglic hate you guys?! I am talking to you Benji in particular lol 🤷♂️
What is with people thinking Roglic has a chance on this course? It isn't at all good for him. Him podiuming would be an upset. Top 5 would be a great result.
@@MDP1702 1) This course is not pancake flat, you might wanna check Tokyo Olympics TT or Basque country stage 1 as well where he won. 2) Longer courses suit him more and 3) he is fresh off of his Vuelta where on flat TT he was close to Stefan Kung in the final stage and he didn't even push max because of his diarrhea (caused by Salmonella).
It is well known Benji hates Roglic, so bare me your sympathy please. Whether or not he podiums is a different story.
@@torontocyclingI'm Rogla all the way but Küng just lost 10s to affini on a flat tt in the european championships and got 8th in the olympics in a flat tt, losing 1.35 on remco. Yes, roglic is a strong time trialist but on the flat sections he is currently not able to match the likes of ganna, tarling and remco. I'd be nice to see him win a medal, but the jersey seems out of reach
@@torontocycling
1) The Tokyo olympics course was very hilly and nearly constantly up and down. It was 17 vertical meters/km vs 8,8 now. Itzulia was 18 and Remco didn't even go full after his early crash, it being only a short TT stage in a longer stage race.
33,5km is almost completely flat straight, perfect for the pure TT riders and bad for Roglic who shines in technical/risky and hilly TT's. Yes, the hill section should suite him more than anyone but Remco, however it also shouldn't have too much of an impact. Most is 5-6% of less, still very doable for most strong riders to not lose too much time on.
2) They most certainly don't. Even his own trainer said he suffers with race exhaustion and non-pure TT riders generally suffer more the longer a TT goes on, since then the impact of lesser cda vs power really makes a big impact. Maybe longer very hilly/mountainous ones, but not long (semi-)flat ones.
3) He wasn't close to Küng (30") and the last ITT in a 21 day race doesn't necessarily say much. Affini was 1'05 slower than Kung and beat him 3 days later in the EC. Küng isn't at the level of Ganna, Tarling and Remco normally too. And ofcourse there is the great chance of decompression with Roglic after the Vuelta too, though I don't count it in.
Imo (if everyone is at good level) Remco, Tarling, Ganna all should definitely be ahead him (normally WVA too). Küng likely too (better on the flat and was climbing good in the Vuelta). Then we have riders like McNulty, sheffield, Cattaneo, Affini, Almeida, Bjerg who also could do a good result on a course like this, not all better than Roglic ofcourse, but some possibly.
This is why I'd say Roglic riding top 5 would already be a really good result for him and podiuming a fantastic result.
He left Visma. They all used to work for Visma. Patrick may still work for Visma.
Had a Turk cabbie try to divert us to a rug shop. We refused to exit the vehicle. The cabbie freaked out and descended the mountain to town like Safa Brian. It was scary as f#¢k
zoo rick -> zurich
Wild card... I'm hoping to see McNulty bring it home.!!!
I love you boys, but your always low on my man Roglic.
Benji in particular seems to dislike Roglic idk why
@@AshenWednesday indeed