Sony Venice Vs FX6, are they really THAT Different?
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So this video was based on having limited time, so some things I wish I fleshed out more ( especially dynamic range, and pro res raw vs raw) hopefully I’ll get it again for a part 2!
dope that you got to work with the venice. right now working with a cinema camera like that is just a dream. even the fx6 is outside my comfort zone.
btw
you missed a voice over cut at 7:37 unless you intended on repeating yourself a couple times lol.
@@FlareWalk I leave mistakes all
The time in videos, truthfully too lazy to change if it’s harmless 😅
Functional dynamic range. I’m stealing that. ©️KOFI
Haha 😂 respects my g !
What's crazy to me is, in my head, for the longest time, I thought the more money you spent on a camera, the better the image quality you would get. I never thought about the "workflow" part of it. I still want to upgrade to an FX6 but this video just gave me a whole new perspective on it. Ive watched damn near every FX6 video out there, All of yours, Mark Bone ect... this tho, this was THE ONE
Thank you man I appreciate it seriously!
These shots are beautiful man. You just keep getting better!
Thanks homie 🙏🏾
All great points and awesome images too! Both have great image quality and you're doing good work with both
I think people will be happy with either !
Awesome!! This is the exact video I wanted to see. Thank you for making this!!! It looks great and informative. 🙌🏽😃
Thanks !!😁😁🙌🏾
Called B shots. B ut that was out of familiarity with the image. Although for test 3 without the side by side it's tough to tell. I still love how closely the FX6 matches, at least once compressed for delivery.
Dude legit thought they were the opposite that’s crazy. Love how close they are making these cameras these days where a 6k camera is comparable to a 60k. Awesome video as always!
Thanks ! And man I was surprised!
Such solid content as always my dude.
Thanks my g!
This was incredible as usual! Great work Kofi!
Thanks my g!
I have had my FX6 for few weeks and my FX9 for a few months. They both can produce great images and both can do things the other can't (as I'm sure the Venice can as well). Instead of workflow that you covered great, I'll turn to shooting style. For me it comes down to DISTANCE. If the subject is farther from me I want a long lens that can go on my FX9 without feeling like I'll break it in half, and I want the camera on my shoulder so the shot is steady. If I'm close to the subject and can use a gimbal that's where the fx6 comes in. I don't mind holding the FX6 like a football if I'm very close to the subject. I cover sports where I'm often not right up in the player's face so that's why I ended up with both cameras. More times than not I need to be near and far. Great job on the video Kofi.
Thanks a ton!
Bro.... Kofi so dope with his reviews. Everytime I watch his videos.... I walk away as a confident more informed FX6 and FX3 owner. Another dope piece of content Bro!!! Keep them coming.
Thanks man !!
I really like the location you shot those sample videos at.
Thanks !!
I loved the A Cam Better on All shots
Ayy🙏🏾🙏🏾
Stunning footage man! What lens were you using with the cameras for the tests? Hope I didn’t miss you saying that
Mostly the 24-70 GM ii and the 50mm GM 2!
😂 you forgot to do a cut it happens to me all the time.
Great video!!
Lol 😂 happens to the best of us 😁😅 I was watching jujutsu kaisen while editing
More filmic motion cadence on camera B. The blacks are also deeper, looks less “video ish”. At 1:55.
personally I think these cameras are getting so good it is a matter of taste. I stopped to ask myself which image looked better and it is really tough. I am a Sony guy but some of the stuff Fuji does is next level.
Nah I agree!
Great video mate!! Really appreciate your insights. I have found them invaluable. PS The shot of the woman sitting in the chair at 7min . Is that Venice or FX6?
Believe that was the Venice 👍🏾
YOO!! you have been relentless !!! keep it up
We can’t stop 🫡
Great video ! Thanks kofi ✨
Thanks !!
Smashed it out the park. Solid flow
Thanks chale🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
Man that shot at: 4:12 is 🔥love it!
absolutely
Respects !
I had a feeling It was A and almost took It back but for the price and all you get. I'd take It every time for my workflow
The workflow for high production is more than likely the key selling feature , 6k is nice though
The epic speech stutter and emphasis on 7:36.
🤷🏾♂️
Could tell from first clip already that A is FX6 because the face is in focus the whole time while B lost it a bit at the end
Great video!
Thanks! I appreciate it 🫡🙏🏾
That’s really interesting. I thought it was cam b. Preferred the look straight away!
👍🏾 nice !
The Fan shoots and Back backlight shoots fully gave it aways minus thr crop
Good eye ✌🏾
NIce video however you got one term wrong - “digital cameras are not good at retaining shadow detail”
Its actually the other way round - film cameras are superior in highlight retention while digital cameras are best at shadow retention. Its one of the reasons cinematography keeps getting darker and darker
You’re right, I got that mixed up 🤣
What's the song playing during the camera test?
Was this the same order (left and right) on the community post? I guessed Venice left, FX6 right on that. The FX6 is just impressive for this level of value.
The community posts was actually mixed , the first two was the right order the second two were flipped i think
that stutter was crazy 7:53
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Even my FS5ii has a Venice color profile. In some situations, both probably can generate the same similar image.
I preferred the B cam on all but 1 shot but I don’t think the price is worth the difference. I’m watching this on Roku on a 32” 1080 so might show difference
I don’t think it’s an image quality thing but more workflow, which at that upper level IMO is more important for sure
Bruh you too strong. Making that FX6 look small haha. Dope video as always bro!!!!
😂😂😂 it’s the Ghana jollof
I went for B because of the window highlights. That was only the way I could tell the difference!!
It’s close!
@@KofiYeboahabsolutely! Heard good things about about the fx6 vs blown window highlights compared to more costly RED cameras but to see your comparison vs Venice 🤯💰🤯💰🤯💰
You're the best bro - thanks
No problem 👍
5:05 "can get undone somewhere else" I see what you did there. 👀
I stay in my lane , I can't break cameras down like that man can lol
@@KofiYeboah thats completely fine! I think every big "camera youtuber" has his own focus on style & content type.
Sometimes I watch like 3 different TH-camrs talking about the same new product, but each one has something new to say because they have different needs from their gear.
When I hear big youtubers talk about videos from each other it makes you "more human". As a viewer you are Like "he knows this guy too? Awesome."
None of you seem cocky, but seeing all the expensive gear makes you kinda like "gods" for all those that are getting started.
Keep it up!
I might be doing something wrong, I picked up the FX3 last weekend, and it seems to me that the sky is always clipped and I’m kinda disappointed (I think the sensor is same as the FX6). I was thinking I maybe should have gone with Leica camera, or maybe even invest more in Sony Burano
Can I shoot High Dynamic Range with the FX6 ? Is the sensor the same as the one found on the F55 ?
I think they’re different sensors but idk
Wow… I was convinced camera A was the fx6 as the image was just wayyyy more pleasing to my eye and was really bummed as I’m in the market for an fx6 to replace my c70.
I’m now… relieved
even on youtube the difference is evident everything is so much cleaner in the cinialta line. i am considering finding a f-3 with rgb 444 upgrade or f-5 instead of fx6 or even fx9 just want a clean image for example look at your samples at the wall under the window fx6 looks magenta and blotchy Venice is smooth and consistent. I know customs will probably never know why there is a difference but they see a difference they just don’t know what it is i wonder is you have even an f-3 cinialta line to do the same comparison I found a Venice on eBay for 20 grand but I gotta do a lot more work to justify that and they have mega hours.
I would see your Comparu between fx3 vs fx6 side by side
Its already there!
Watching you handle the Venice broke my back
😂😂😂 do your deadlifts !
@@KofiYeboah 😂😂😂
do you have a video like this for fx6 vs fx3?
Yup!
Venice II is where it's at... realto system makes the camera comparable to the fx3 size wise
That price tags though 😮💨
To be honest I thought you were going to reveal that you mixed the A's and B's to prove it doesn't really matter. I thought the A shots were better but a couple looked darker like in the B shots so I dunno. The first shot for sure was nicer... to my eye. Good stuff.
Haha thanks! I almost went that way, but I'm posting like 17 videos this month ahah
@@KofiYeboah 17?... easy buddy. You're gonna run outta content. Nobody has that much to talk about :D
I know you're all in with the Sony brand. All good. No BS from me. Just wondering as an ex-C70 guy do you have any regrets? With all the firmware updates from Canon it's a badass camera. 2 years ago I was on the fence with C70 and FX6. Sony was a client for a design shop I worked at in NYC 20+ years ago. They were doing really cool sh*t then. WE were doing super cool design work for SONY. I just think the Canon image from the C70 is a bit better?? You can't lose here. Both are stunning. Just wondering if you have any "dang" moments.
@@scottievee7467 lol actually, you’d be surprised , and they’re from various categories 😁
Honestly no, I don’t miss the c70 at all tbh, it’s more a workflow thing for me, when I work with other shooters, they’re usually Sony, so it was a nice change for me
I thought the same thing when I was looking at them, it looked like the color jumped back and forth in the skin tones.
do you have a video about fx6 and stabilisation bro? Many thx
There’s no ibis on the fx6 so I don’t unfortunately
@@KofiYeboah do you always use a gimbal ? You can never shoot handheld ?
I rarely use a gimbal actually
@@KofiYeboah oh cool that would be interesting to see how do you knowing there is no ibis. I know the OSS lenses help a bit but I am sure we will have a lot to learn from you on this topic
DAMN U MADE ME FEEL BAD... I THOUGHT A WAS B....😂😂
Ahah got ya!
that might relate to the
I have never been so happy to be wrong when it comes to gear nerding.
😂😂😂
Noti Gang
A is the venice
Damn
Gang gang gang gang ✨✨
Haha caught one 🤣
venice has an expensive look (cinema) while fx6 is super sharp and clear :)
Let’s go with that !
Thanks Kofi...nice job. For my money, I will go for the Venice.
Bro if you got venice money, COP it 🙏🏾🫱🏾🫲🏽
@@KofiYeboah Ha ha. That's for a used Venice 1 which I think is a pretty good deal on what is still a really good camera. Would you agree?
@@jj3710 despite how old that camera is, with a few good lenses its really nice ! ALTHOUGH dealing with memory is kinda booty sometimes.
@@KofiYeboah Because of the price of memory? I already own a couple of Fuji Cabrio 4k - 20-120 lenses and I love them. Although I know a purist film or commercial person would only go for prime lenses.
@@jj3710 the reader is strange , it needs a thunderbolt port where even a usbc adapter doesn’t work, I kept my girlfriends 2013 just to dump footage ahah
Lol 😂 bro why did you do this lol - I was gonna invest in glass to push the fx6 and maybe get the fx9 upgrade when it comes out
You’ll be perfectly happy on the fx6!
@@KofiYeboah I am
Called it
that's crazy !
I do see a slight difference with the venice and fx6 coming in. Extra DR in leather jacket footy and colors of the calibrite test do have an edge. That venice flex is definitely Netflix ready! baller
There's definately more DR, but how much does one NEEED on average? I think enough that you can use both of these and be SUPER happy
@@KofiYeboahexactly. Id rather loose 0,5stop of DR and have a lower weight, smaller form factor for the kind of jobs i do. Audience will be more connected to a movie wich have better cinematography (because my shooting style and budget needs small cameras) than 0,5 or 1stop of extra dr
Rolling shutter differences? Global shutter?
Neither have globak
I am unable to afford the Sony FX6 or the Sony Venice. So the Sony A74 is more in my budget just being realistic. And in crop mode the Sony A74 has the same size sensor as the Sony FS7 Mark 2, Sony FX30 and Sony A6700.
It’s still a great choice !
@@KofiYeboah Very true
I thought the fs7 was sharing sensors with the a6300??
If yes, venice a7iv are they really so different 😂
So, I assume this was the Venice I, not the 2.... 8K and Internal Raw
It’s not !
7:36 I thought my phone was dying
Nah my frontal cortex was though.
@@KofiYeboah love your content, trading in my A7siii for a Fx3 from your info. Would be cool if you could make an honest tutorial on landing clients for newcomers. Most content creators are gatekeepers or give vague info with this subject.
@@michael_the_wicked actually , I posted a video about that back 6 months ago on the channnel 👍🏾
i am here!
Sony wants the sweet sweet premium for X-OCN.
Sony momma ain’t raise no fool
when you exposed for the window with the fx6 the window is blown out
She’s a lil over exposed , idea still the same you won’t have fun recovering shadows
Mate use spotmeter if you gonna make dynamic range test. You don’t know how many stop you have over or under. You shouldn’t test it like this. Ps. It was obvious that Bcam was Venice, even after matching with color correction.
Congratulations! You must have a great eye
@@KofiYeboah as cinematographer yes I must mate, you don't need a great eye tho, latitude is different. even after color correction the details are visible. I'm sure Fx6 is great camera but sony is not dumb to make it comparable with venice, it wouldn't be commercially correct move for sony right? I thought this video would be good to see how much the difference is, but you did the dynamic range test by eye judgement without spotmeter, we couldn't understand it. you also didn't show / compare the raw images, we didn't understand it from there either. anyway thanks for taking the trouble to make this video.
💯❤️🔥🔥🔥
You are missing the whole point. Sure the FX6 can give you about the same end product. You can shoot your movie on the FX6 and lie that you used a Venice. Yes...it's true...nobody will EVER know. The point of shooting on a Venice?....is that you LOOK COOL on the set. That is the one main thing the FX6 cant give you.
Lmfao I forgot the flex points 😂
hahhahha 😂
turntablism at 7:35
I got on threads and it ruined my brain ahah
video bitrate of sony venice?
Depends on your compression; but it’s on the B&H spec sheet 👍🏾
@@KofiYeboah Thanks ;)
wow, you can hardly tell the difference from the video clips. crazy
Wild eh!
@@KofiYeboah It a reminder to focus on the craft and skillset versus the equipment which is a challenge lol
@@Sk8luv33 absolutely!!
@@KofiYeboah I've been watching your channels and other similar for a while. I've mostly been active on Instagram but decided to stop fighting the need of TH-cam channel, so here I am lol. I'm going to build up my videography @sk8luv33films as well but for now I'm on this skate content. You have a great channel bro ✊🏾
They look the same :D
They're damn close ahah
watching the clips, slightly like cam B better but barely.
It’s mad close !
The FX6 looks exactly the same as the FX3 - which looks exactly the same as the A7S3 - which looks exactly the same as the logging camera ZVE1. Let that sink in
tbf they intentionally all have the same sensor, that's kinda expected
I have the FX6 and FX3 and I don't agree, they are really similar but the FX6 has a more pleasing look (more organic); and the FX9 also being really similar has also a more pleasing look compare to the FX6 (it's subtil but it's there)
Recently I had a TV shoot on an Alexa35 with Atlas Anamorphics. The production company sent it to the color grader without my briefing and the client already approved the end result before I had a say in it. Mannnn, the color grader straight-up destroyed the footage, messed up the 17 stops dynamic range and skin tones were not natural. A DP's worst nightmare. You can have the best footage in the world, but it can get f*cked somewhere down the pipeline.
Which is a reason why I like TH-cam; you pretty much have a say in the entire production of your own videos ( just doesn’t pay as well at first)
hmmm....Matching the cameras in this way is a little misleading. uploading the raw untouched media would be a more honest comparison. Even putting these two cameras next to each other as a comparison is insane. Just wanted to make a statement. I'm seeing a lot of people saying this fx6 is comparable to a venice and in reality, that is truly not the case. Best of creative luck to you all.
Thanks ✌🏾
Haha, I started clapping... :D
Compare the skin tones and colors. There are huge differences. Fx6 looks like there are just 3 colors in the skin tones. Especially the girl looked extremely pale. Fx6 almost has no gradients in the skin tones compared to the Venice. Skin tones in comparison look horrible side by side. Don’t get me wrong fx6 looks great but your conclusion that it looks almost like Venice is wrong.
Get Gerald Undone somewhere else? lol
Lol Im making a distinction that I have NO WHERE the ability to articulate on tech like that man, I cant even try ahah
@@KofiYeboah Nobody can compete! lol
The venice just looks better overall.
B more deep color, very different image quality