Ah, that was exactly the question I wanted to ask. I've recently acquired a 3 camera setup consisting of Lumix S5, and I was wondering if renting out a couple of rigged cameras for indie projects would make sense to offset the costs, but I'm afraid to rent it out without me being present. I realize that accidents do happen and I myself recently dropped my 50mm and broke a UV filter.
I really love the fact that you talk about the cost of owning those gears and how you manage to pay them a lot of youtuber don’t really talk about this and it’s a great insight thank you for sharing that
Love this. I really feel that the cameras we use are reflective of where we are in our careers. I'm sure we all remember our DSLR days. Excited for the road ahead.
My old reel from my 5D mkii is actually great. Because color correction was unforgiving you had to light it perfect and make it look great in camera. More forgiving cameras created some unprofessional habits I had to undo. Currently I shoot on the FX3 & Venice 2. The Venice spoils you so much that convenience of the FX3 isn’t as impressive anymore and I will use the Venice for pickup shots that the FX3 would be perfectly acceptable for.
So many great things have been filmed with the Venice. I wouldn’t regret it either. I’m an F55 owner and I can appreciate how you feel as being inspired with a camera that has done a lot of professional movies and shows. I don’t plan on moving on for quite some time.
I’m late to the party but congrats on this setup. Hope you’re still fulfilled. I absolutely love the Venice and even the older F55 for its global shutter and amazing sensor. I’d shoot with those over the FS or FX series any day.
Bro I just paused the video to mention this! You are awesome! Thanks for actually including your numbers I’ll be following and hoping to see more of you!
Happy new year, really honest and informative video thank you it's much appreciated! If there's other people that want it, could you maybe do a video on the rental process? Renting out your gear, who you do it with, how you go about rental insurance etc. I've always wanted to rent out my gear but feel like I would be left without a camera for work 😅
I really love how you breakdown and explain your videos ! As a owner/op DoP in Brasil, it's really helpful to see how it's the market for you guys and how i can also improve it here, thanks a lot Giancarlo !!
Its great to see the insight into owning something of that calibre. I know for me and i'm sure many other filmmakers it seems like its impossible to achieve. Thanks so much for showing us the behind the scenes of owning the Venice Gian - another great video with a solid message.
Loved this! I bought the fx6 this year and have been so much more inspired shooting on it after years of using smaller multi-purpose cameras. People sometimes ask him I feel like it was a bad purchase since it doesn’t take pictures and it’s the opposite. Thanks for sharing all your thoughts and this was really encouraging.
outstanding video mate !!! Without a doubt the sony venice is an amazing camera the specs are off the walls everything you mentioned is spot on i had the opportunity to play withit in myself at my buddies studio an loved it i wanted to rent it for the week lol But what blew me away even more was comparing the venice to the fx3 with a full frame 35mm anamorphic lens. i shot the same shots with both cameras and shot the fx3 in S log and i seriously couldnt tell them both apart im a editor who color grades in davinci studio and after nailing some great compositions at night and day i realized after slapping my sd card into davinci and doing some complex grades it looked exactly the same sure your going to need to tweek a few things more on the fx3 but i came to realize that with compared to the venice 2 and the Red Monstro putting these cameras all to the test you can achieve the same look as these high end cameras im super excited to see where these cameras will be in 5 more years from now there getting smaller and smaller
Do you have any videos on how you handle footage? - drives, storage, longterm storage, etc. Would love to know how you decide what to keep/archive from your shoots and how you store it (even after its been delivered).
Going into 2024, I still love and use my ursa mini pro 4.6k g2 cameras. Still one of the best values around for all the features you get. Mind you, I also own the Sony FX9.
Venice is one of the best all around cinema cameras ever created, that thing will be used prominently for the next 5 years and I'm sure well beyond that. Even with the Venice 2, which only made it better, I still get on more jobs requesting Venice 1 due to lower data rates since the image is still incredible. Every time I use it I consider buying one haha. And those 8 stops of ND are so underrated. Honestly weight aside I think it's actually the perfect camera for Indie / lower budget productions because of all of the ergonomic and imaging benefits.
I think at this point in history cameras are pretty much plateaued in increasing image quality. I doubt the venice will be obsolete in a very long time, the only people who seem to care are gear heads, not clients lol.
Great video. Your work is more and more stunning with each new video. Great transparency on costs vs profit, but don't you also pay insurance on the camera? Also how do you rent your gear out? Sharegrid or via a rental house?
I was looking for a web cam but it appears this one can qualify to be my B cam. I am waiting for Blackmagic 65mm sensor 17K camera to come out for my zoom calls.
Very nice! Are you gonna look into the Burano? Like a baby venice run & gun camera. I've seen it during IBC 2023. It feels so nice to hold and not so heavy at all.
No matter your skill level, it starts with asking yourself what your time is worth per hour. Would you get out of bed to do a job for $50/hr and be happy? Or would you need $100/hr to make it worthwhile for you? Then look at competitors in your area/market to see what they're charging, to gauge if your numbers seem realistic or competitive.
I could only wish to own something like that. As someone who is starting over after all my gear was stolen 4 years ago. The loss was nothing compared to the price of that Venice. Trying to start over with what gear I do have which is the beginning equipment I have left
I am looking to get second hand Venice after considering new Burano or even FX9. It is a still much superior camera, the build quality, viewfinder, color science, open gate scan mode, nearly non existent rolling shutter artifacts. It can only be beaten by Venice 2 and Alexa.
The amount of wasted money spent on new camera gear just because it is new, could finance a million indie films. I'll never understand people who have to have the newest thing instead of investing that money into actors or crew. Gian did the best thing anyone can do, this camera won't be outdated in 30 years, camera image quality has essentially plateaued.
I see so many questions about can I afford this camera and stuff but it's like dude the amount of other things you have to be able to afford for a film production really is a lot you don't even realise
Thanks for the insights! Would you say that without the extra recorder, the Venice isn't worth it? I am in doubt now with a used Venice without the recorder, would you still recommend it?
Thank you for your thoughts on this desicion. You've probably already done a video on this, but what kind of spot were you in prior to your purchase of the sony venice. What gave you the confidence that this would be a smart investment moving forward? Did you have current clients in need of this type of camera package?
Thanks for this video, really informative! As far as insurance goes, did you get equipment insurance for the year or did you have each production cover it?
Hey man was hoping you could answer.. I was watching the BTS of the Bose spec. In the bathroom scene when you are close to talents face (he’s leaning against the wall in the stall) what focal length were you on there and any diopter? I love the shot and really didn’t see distortion. Talent was more center frame if I remember correctly but still was loving the shot and was wondering. Thank you!
I’d love to own a Venice 1 because of the speed and versatility of the camera but I worry about how often I’d get to rent it out. In my market the higher end projects have been going A35 and the lower end is usually the FX line or DSMC2 cameras. There is something quite magnetic about the Venice though!
Wow, i think this is the first time i video like this, informative and showing your reality as it is, not trying to convince, putting yourself on display and vulnerable. One fear that i have always had about getting a high end camera for the pourpouse of own projects and rental is not renting it enough to get the money back for the investment before the camera runs out of fashion. Do you think you are going to be able to recover your money investment with all the other cameras around?
Dude I've been loving your videos since the first one. You are a gem to filmmaking. But make a video about how are you so jacked af haha. How can you keep up with your beloved one, gym and the constant nonstop stress that filmmaking let alone cinematography brings. Need to know the secrets haha
Love your channel brother. Very helpful and USEFUL advice I am a relatively new videographer trying to get work as a freelancer I own a Canon C100 mkii and a set of Sigma cine ef mount lens as well as the Ronin RS3pro a EZ rig as you use and a steady cam that I modified to use with the Ronin Trouble is no one will hire me as my Camera apparently is only 1080p. I want to maybe buy a FX3 but then I need new lens to go with. Any wisdom as how to over come this camera bias that people seem to have. When I show people what I have shot with it they all comment how good the image looks UNTIL they find out its 1080p and then they either can’t believe the C100 can look that good or that they just need 4 k Would love any words if wisdom.
After seeing all the burano reviews, it's poor rolling shutter, IR pollution issues and strange limitations on output formats, the Venice, even the mark 1, is just gaining in value overall.
Damn man you’d make sooo much if you rented to other productions that you’re not on. Ever thought of consignment? I have a deposit down on a Burano and already have a consignment agreement signed out here in LA. My numbers are similar for the payment. Probably around $1,000 a month.
I’ve considered. I live about an hour half away from the nearest rental house.. idk if it makes sense for me tbh. I also don’t like sharegrid to much. Maybe I’ll reconsider in the future!
Awesome video Carlo! I have a question about renting out your gear- I’m looking to rent out some of my kit as well. How do you go about finding clients to rent to? Do you advertise your kit online somewhere or do you only deal with clients in your circle? Want to know how I can reach people! Thanks mate
I went to a talk by Sony and they stated this was a cinema camera. Are you making movies? this camera is for you. Shooting weddings? there is just no point to it
Hey Carlos keep up the great work you make amazing videos! I was wondering how do you go about getting a job to pay you your rental rates? I’ve noticed a lot of people think the gear u bring as a dp should be free. Just wondering your thoughts on this
No don't plan to own the camera because by the time you fully own this camera, it won't be worth anything due to obsolesce. Take your yearly profits then flip your Venice when the time comes. In this way, you are spreading out your ownership over multiple cameras, but while still taking profits each year.
I don't think cameras that are good today will ever be obsolete again. Camera image quality is essentially plateaued at this point, you have to pay exponentially more for the tiniest increase in quality at this point.
Realizing cameras like the FX3 are used on Hollywood films - I wouldn't even bother with such massive cameras anymore. They're slower to work with, capable of less, and require more money to actually use. Plus, AI is capable of doing so much where cameras won't even be necessary! Age old wisdom applies: _invest in lenses, not cameras_
Part of being a freelancer is looking professional and having what looks like professional gear. Gian ain't shooting Hollywood movies, he's competing for jobs, and people who don't understand cameras are gonna pick him over anyone with an fx3 any day.
Hey! One thing I forgot to mention about the rentals. I only rent my Venice when I am on the Job. I do not rent it to other people, at this moment!
A rental house more worth it? Like you don’t recommend sharegrid?
Ah, that was exactly the question I wanted to ask. I've recently acquired a 3 camera setup consisting of Lumix S5, and I was wondering if renting out a couple of rigged cameras for indie projects would make sense to offset the costs, but I'm afraid to rent it out without me being present. I realize that accidents do happen and I myself recently dropped my 50mm and broke a UV filter.
So when you get hired they pay your day rate and your kit fee?
@@xx02 I would imagine so! Talk about making some nice money!!!!
Any platforms you’d suggest for renting out equipment you own?
I really love the fact that you talk about the cost of owning those gears and how you manage to pay them a lot of youtuber don’t really talk about this and it’s a great insight thank you for sharing that
Love this. I really feel that the cameras we use are reflective of where we are in our careers. I'm sure we all remember our DSLR days. Excited for the road ahead.
So true!
One day I hope to own a Sony Venice 2 with the 8K sensor, as well as sets of: Leitz Prime lenses, Cooke S8's, and Atlas Mercury's.
My old reel from my 5D mkii is actually great. Because color correction was unforgiving you had to light it perfect and make it look great in camera.
More forgiving cameras created some unprofessional habits I had to undo.
Currently I shoot on the FX3 & Venice 2. The Venice spoils you so much that convenience of the FX3 isn’t as impressive anymore and I will use the Venice for pickup shots that the FX3 would be perfectly acceptable for.
@@daniellove162 great perspective.
your a very humble guy, thanks for sharing the ends and outs.... great video brother!
happy new year!
Thanks, you too!
So many great things have been filmed with the Venice. I wouldn’t regret it either. I’m an F55 owner and I can appreciate how you feel as being inspired with a camera that has done a lot of professional movies and shows. I don’t plan on moving on for quite some time.
12:20 is a huge point - knowing all nuances of your camera gives you creative control & confidence in what the final shot will look like
Such an inspiration 🙌🏼
Would be absolute golden if you could do a detailed breakdown of your whole camera system as well, would be highly appreciated!
I’m late to the party but congrats on this setup. Hope you’re still fulfilled. I absolutely love the Venice and even the older F55 for its global shutter and amazing sensor. I’d shoot with those over the FS or FX series any day.
Amazing Video mate, the way you breakdown everything and being honest and open with prices. thank you
I appreciate that!
Bro I just paused the video to mention this! You are awesome! Thanks for actually including your numbers I’ll be following and hoping to see more of you!
Appreciate the love!
This is such a great and transparent video, thank you so much for breaking down these details, really gives a good perspective.
dope video essay bro, fantastic setup and lens kit
Happy new year, really honest and informative video thank you it's much appreciated! If there's other people that want it, could you maybe do a video on the rental process? Renting out your gear, who you do it with, how you go about rental insurance etc. I've always wanted to rent out my gear but feel like I would be left without a camera for work 😅
I should have specified that I only rent when I am the DP… my apologies!
@@carlostigs ahh okay that makes more sense, thank you!
I really love how you breakdown and explain your videos ! As a owner/op DoP in Brasil, it's really helpful to see how it's the market for you guys and how i can also improve it here, thanks a lot Giancarlo !!
Its great to see the insight into owning something of that calibre. I know for me and i'm sure many other filmmakers it seems like its impossible to achieve. Thanks so much for showing us the behind the scenes of owning the Venice Gian - another great video with a solid message.
Cool🤗
Loved this! I bought the fx6 this year and have been so much more inspired shooting on it after years of using smaller multi-purpose cameras. People sometimes ask him I feel like it was a bad purchase since it doesn’t take pictures and it’s the opposite. Thanks for sharing all your thoughts and this was really encouraging.
Seeing you grow man it's beyond inspiring. Happy New Year bro
I appreciate that
Great job explaining Gian and thanks for posting. I've been looking into purchasing this camera and your video was very helpful.
outstanding video mate !!! Without a doubt the sony venice is an amazing camera the specs are off the walls everything you mentioned is spot on i had the opportunity to play withit in myself at my buddies studio an loved it i wanted to rent it for the week lol But what blew me away even more was comparing the venice to the fx3 with a full frame 35mm anamorphic lens. i shot the same shots with both cameras and shot the fx3 in S log and i seriously couldnt tell them both apart im a editor who color grades in davinci studio and after nailing some great compositions at night and day i realized after slapping my sd card into davinci and doing some complex grades it looked exactly the same sure your going to need to tweek a few things more on the fx3 but i came to realize that with compared to the venice 2 and the Red Monstro putting these cameras all to the test you can achieve the same look as these high end cameras im super excited to see where these cameras will be in 5 more years from now there getting smaller and smaller
Do you have any videos on how you handle footage? - drives, storage, longterm storage, etc. Would love to know how you decide what to keep/archive from your shoots and how you store it (even after its been delivered).
loved the video man. Exited for the upcoming year!
Going into 2024, I still love and use my ursa mini pro 4.6k g2 cameras. Still one of the best values around for all the features you get. Mind you, I also own the Sony FX9.
as always very inspiring, than you for sharing your experience and thought process
Venice is one of the best all around cinema cameras ever created, that thing will be used prominently for the next 5 years and I'm sure well beyond that. Even with the Venice 2, which only made it better, I still get on more jobs requesting Venice 1 due to lower data rates since the image is still incredible. Every time I use it I consider buying one haha. And those 8 stops of ND are so underrated. Honestly weight aside I think it's actually the perfect camera for Indie / lower budget productions because of all of the ergonomic and imaging benefits.
I think at this point in history cameras are pretty much plateaued in increasing image quality. I doubt the venice will be obsolete in a very long time, the only people who seem to care are gear heads, not clients lol.
Thank you Carlo for your tireless effort of educating and informing us about Filmaking you are inspiration and that is my dream camera too😊.
Thank yoU!
Thanks man for the honesty!
It’s okay to smile every once in a while man 😅 love the content though
Good stuff. Curious to see where your future takes you in the field.
Same lol
Just got a 4.6K G2. Now I know why you’re so jacked. This thing has some GIRTH to it man.
lol true
Is this a good camera for streaming on twitch or TH-cam as a beginner?
Not to forget that you get crazy forearms shooting with this setup :)
lol
Great video. Your work is more and more stunning with each new video. Great transparency on costs vs profit, but don't you also pay insurance on the camera? Also how do you rent your gear out? Sharegrid or via a rental house?
Amazing breakdown here. Thanks for the transparency! Super inspiring!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Really love your content and openess also. Really hope to grow this year in my filmaking career.
1:55 love the filmmaker math. We've all been there - haha!
love the video, thanks for the information.
Love your content dude! Super pragmatic and honest advice
I appreciate that!
The Venice is incredible. The Venice 2 with the Rialto system is something else entirely. One day...
You’re inspiring, as that camera is inspiring to you. Thanks Carlos.
My pleasure!
Tokinas are great! Isaac Bauman used them for season 2 of Loki and they really hold up for their price point
They’re beautiful
I was looking for a web cam but it appears this one can qualify to be my B cam. I am waiting for Blackmagic 65mm sensor 17K camera to come out for my zoom calls.
Very nice! Are you gonna look into the Burano? Like a baby venice run & gun camera. I've seen it during IBC 2023. It feels so nice to hold and not so heavy at all.
What is your day rate? I've been struggling to come up with my rates
No matter your skill level, it starts with asking yourself what your time is worth per hour. Would you get out of bed to do a job for $50/hr and be happy? Or would you need $100/hr to make it worthwhile for you? Then look at competitors in your area/market to see what they're charging, to gauge if your numbers seem realistic or competitive.
I could only wish to own something like that. As someone who is starting over after all my gear was stolen 4 years ago. The loss was nothing compared to the price of that Venice. Trying to start over with what gear I do have which is the beginning equipment I have left
great insight bro!
Appreciate it!
1:26 'scarce' ☺️
I am looking to get second hand Venice after considering new Burano or even FX9. It is a still much superior camera, the build quality, viewfinder, color science, open gate scan mode, nearly non existent rolling shutter artifacts. It can only be beaten by Venice 2 and Alexa.
The amount of wasted money spent on new camera gear just because it is new, could finance a million indie films. I'll never understand people who have to have the newest thing instead of investing that money into actors or crew. Gian did the best thing anyone can do, this camera won't be outdated in 30 years, camera image quality has essentially plateaued.
I can agree to this
I see so many questions about can I afford this camera and stuff but it's like dude the amount of other things you have to be able to afford for a film production really is a lot you don't even realise
Great watch! Thanks for sharing your insight!!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the insights! Would you say that without the extra recorder, the Venice isn't worth it? I am in doubt now with a used Venice without the recorder, would you still recommend it?
Thanks for the education mane fr 💯
💯
Thank you for your thoughts on this desicion. You've probably already done a video on this, but what kind of spot were you in prior to your purchase of the sony venice. What gave you the confidence that this would be a smart investment moving forward? Did you have current clients in need of this type of camera package?
Thanks for this video, really informative! As far as insurance goes, did you get equipment insurance for the year or did you have each production cover it?
Can the Sony Venice be a great choice for a 1 man band with or without the Rialto?
Hey man was hoping you could answer.. I was watching the BTS of the Bose spec. In the bathroom scene when you are close to talents face (he’s leaning against the wall in the stall) what focal length were you on there and any diopter? I love the shot and really didn’t see distortion. Talent was more center frame if I remember correctly but still was loving the shot and was wondering. Thank you!
Did you sell the Ursa?
Edit: also did you use a credit union for the loan?
I’d love to own a Venice 1 because of the speed and versatility of the camera but I worry about how often I’d get to rent it out. In my market the higher end projects have been going A35 and the lower end is usually the FX line or DSMC2 cameras. There is something quite magnetic about the Venice though!
I do love the venice
Great info thanks Carlo
Any time!
why not the Sony Alta mk2 lines
every bts looks like high end equipments in indie-ish projects. how this works?
Cinema
Wow, i think this is the first time i video like this, informative and showing your reality as it is, not trying to convince, putting yourself on display and vulnerable. One fear that i have always had about getting a high end camera for the pourpouse of own projects and rental is not renting it enough to get the money back for the investment before the camera runs out of fashion. Do you think you are going to be able to recover your money investment with all the other cameras around?
If I had a dollar for every time he said "truly" I can buy a Sony Venice.
Dude I've been loving your videos since the first one. You are a gem to filmmaking. But make a video about how are you so jacked af haha. How can you keep up with your beloved one, gym and the constant nonstop stress that filmmaking let alone cinematography brings. Need to know the secrets haha
Hahahaha maybe one day I’ll make a gym video
What camera did you previously have ?
Urea Mini G2
8:30 isn't approx. 26K income - 13K costs = 13K profit? Bit confused on the math..
No profit because I still owe money to the bank
Add a bit more contrast to your talking shots
Do gmasters have autofocus on Venice? Throw one of those on. Let’s see some camparisons please
They do not have auto with Venice
Love your channel brother. Very helpful and USEFUL advice
I am a relatively new videographer trying to get work as a freelancer
I own a Canon C100 mkii and a set of Sigma cine ef mount lens as well as the Ronin RS3pro a EZ rig as you use and a steady cam that I modified to use with the Ronin
Trouble is no one will hire me as my Camera apparently is only 1080p.
I want to maybe buy a FX3 but then I need new lens to go with.
Any wisdom as how to over come this camera bias that people seem to have.
When I show people what I have shot with it they all comment how good the image looks UNTIL they find out its 1080p and then they either can’t believe the C100 can look that good or that they just need 4 k
Would love any words if wisdom.
$1200 is so low for this pacakge what an amazing deal! great video appreciate the insight
Thanks!
Try vlogging, using that to make it worth it, maybe shoot some tiktok dances etc
Now that the CookeSp3's are hitting the market. Are you thinking about selling your Tokinas for them ? Form factor difference is pretty significant.
Nah! Love my tokinas ahah but those cookes are nice
Wondering which Black Satin strength you usually use?
1/8 & 1/4
@@carlostigs thank you!
Curious if you’ll ever go V2 or Burano?
Probably not anytime soon!
After seeing all the burano reviews, it's poor rolling shutter, IR pollution issues and strange limitations on output formats, the Venice, even the mark 1, is just gaining in value overall.
Amen!
What filtration do you use? Do you have a link?
Usually Black Satin 1/8
Damn man you’d make sooo much if you rented to other productions that you’re not on. Ever thought of consignment? I have a deposit down on a Burano and already have a consignment agreement signed out here in LA. My numbers are similar for the payment. Probably around $1,000 a month.
I’ve considered. I live about an hour half away from the nearest rental house.. idk if it makes sense for me tbh. I also don’t like sharegrid to much. Maybe I’ll reconsider in the future!
Amazing 💪🏻👏🏻
Thank you 🙌
Awesome video Carlo! I have a question about renting out your gear- I’m looking to rent out some of my kit as well. How do you go about finding clients to rent to? Do you advertise your kit online somewhere or do you only deal with clients in your circle? Want to know how I can reach people! Thanks mate
I only rent my EQ when im on the job as the DOP
@@carlostigs Ah, that makes sense. Thanks
I went to a talk by Sony and they stated this was a cinema camera. Are you making movies? this camera is for you. Shooting weddings? there is just no point to it
Do you pull your own focus?
Normally no. But on small sufff or personal sometimes I will
2500 is night vision...?
so great sharing
A camera like this is only useful in the hands of an expert
It's his profession
Hello, colleague! A cool video with a blonde. Where can I watch it?
its 14k now used
Hey Carlos keep up the great work you make amazing videos! I was wondering how do you go about getting a job to pay you your rental rates? I’ve noticed a lot of people think the gear u bring as a dp should be free. Just wondering your thoughts on this
Not a good investment - Venice is like $16k now with all licenses. Ouch
🙏🏼
fire
Thanks
No don't plan to own the camera because by the time you fully own this camera, it won't be worth anything due to obsolesce. Take your yearly profits then flip your Venice when the time comes. In this way, you are spreading out your ownership over multiple cameras, but while still taking profits each year.
I don't think cameras that are good today will ever be obsolete again. Camera image quality is essentially plateaued at this point, you have to pay exponentially more for the tiniest increase in quality at this point.
Realizing cameras like the FX3 are used on Hollywood films - I wouldn't even bother with such massive cameras anymore.
They're slower to work with, capable of less, and require more money to actually use.
Plus, AI is capable of doing so much where cameras won't even be necessary!
Age old wisdom applies: _invest in lenses, not cameras_
Part of being a freelancer is looking professional and having what looks like professional gear. Gian ain't shooting Hollywood movies, he's competing for jobs, and people who don't understand cameras are gonna pick him over anyone with an fx3 any day.
@@space_1073 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
I am 03 secs in....the Answer is NO
Scarce
how do you pay 1200 a month for 2 years if the lenses only are 30 grand? u got the camera free?
I never said 2 years
oh, i thought i heard 1200 for the next couple of years, my bad!@@carlostigs
dont u have an insurance on this stuff, just in case a person drops a drink on it or a grip head falls onto it
I do have insurance