JJ Redick CALLS OUT Shaq…
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 พ.ค. 2024
- Today, Shaq and JJ Redick talk about whether Dwight was "dominant" and JJ calls out Shaq.
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calling shaq just a hater is not good enough, he's considered the gold standard of being a hater in the nba of all time in my opinion.
Yes. Show this man some respect and give him his hater flowers
He ultimately says domination is about production. Lol so with that being said was Bill russell tim duncan and kareem more dominant than him? They all have more rings than shaq and they had incredible production.
He’s also stubborn and rarely admits fault in the moment
I like shaq but he's a hater
Most dominant hater in NBA history
Shaq really is a petty MF when it comes to hoops.
Because these guys are so soft.
Facts over feelings, truth hurts sometimes.
@@cinnapaw23Shaq is the one in his feelings tho lol
JJ just as soft and petty and tunnel visioned
@@ricardoalvarez8415nothing is as soft as shaq’s ego
Shaq absolutely hates on Dwight
All because of a nickname😂
If prime dwight wasnt dominate than idk what dominant means lol
Yeah walking 20/10/5/5 with no BAG whatsoever
@@bigreendot he did develop a post-game bag tho especially when he started working with Dream
@@bigreendot22/14/4/3
@@a.r.t93he had a decent jump hook that’s about it.
Nah fr
Respect to jj. Nobody too big for him
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@@brucedubby6449 nobody here thought about anything gay except you bruh 😂😂
Except wilt.
When you're done, get up from your knees. Lol.
@@brucedubby6449facts
JJ talking to Shaq is like me trying to get my 7yo to understand something
Lmaooo tons of dudes say Shaq is like a big ass kid and I can see it
@@seize3 Ernie says he is a like a 14 year old in 7 feet body
I will take the word of 4x NBA champ HOF Shaq over JJ any day of the week.
Also besides HOF he is a billionaire business man. Early Google investor.
Tell what JJ done besides talking.
Can’t wait to see him coach the lakers see if he is as good as he talks
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe he is mentally delayed.
Dominant is very nuanced. You wouldnt call Curry the most dominant player but when he was raining threes from anywhere in the court and teams were down by 30, he was dominating them
I say the same thing about Harden in his prime. The ability to manipulate the game with drawing fouls was so dominant they had to make rules for it to stop
Shaq does describe Steph Curry as dominant though, so he’s consistent
But Shaq not only calls Curry dominant, he has him above him in the all-time list.
@@djmill8000stop that, he’s just a flopper
steph is dominate
If Shaq's definition of dominating is strictly production, I'm struggling to see how his most dominant award doesn't go to Wilt Chamberlain putting up 40 & 30 every other game lol
They say those years the nba was filled with plumbers and electricians lmao 😂
@@richardusjames9780 The league didn't even merge with the ABA yet. There was a clear lack of talent.
@@Sup4ast4rwilt started playing in 1959-1960 season....the aba didn't start until 1967 bruh😑🤔
@@Sup4ast4roh really? There was a “clear lack of talent”? So you were there and watched that time period right? Sit down.
That was the leagues best players at the time. Deal with it.
Shaq’s domination was that he could t be stopped and they had to change the rules multiple times to make it possible for other teams to deal with him.
2:13 basically defines this video.
😂 thanks for saving me some time
JJ is one of Lebron's Side piece
@@donuchiha2368lebron wasnt even mentioned in this clip
@@donuchiha2368 🥩 🚴♂️
@mrstealyogril9426 They love to hate Lebron. When they think of basketball, Lebron appears....But they blame the media😂
Shaq sounds like every amateur pundit online. Take the most extreme cases of physicality from the 90s and make it unilateral to the league. Meanwhile, there’s highlight reals for Mugsby Bogues prancing to the basket for free over and over.
To be fair to Shaq, he probably was getting hacked every game so it probable felt that way.
Shhhh stop making my rose tinted glasses from working properly
it was easier to be short in the NBA in the 90s than it is now.
Shaq is prioritizing physicality over skill.
Idk. I think being able to display skill in the face of heavy physicality is what he’s getting at. Not negating skill altogether. It’s easier to seem skilled when a level of physicality by the opposition is forbidden in comparison to prior eras.
You’re missing the point, it’s about can you showcase the same level of skill with the presence of physicality
Well put
No! Dominate for him is both physicality and skill!
He just hated on Jokic too lol
He literally said he is the best big man in the game 😂😂 he just didn’t think he should of won it 😂
hate is a strong word
"Alright cool... ok... ok..." the way Shaq says this is killing me lollll
Shaq is confused LOL
Look up highlights of Dwight destroying Shaq when he was on the suns, cavs, and Celtics. Shaq never got over that
yes a prime Dwight vs a old shaq of course he outplayed him. Lakers Shaq and Orlando Shaq would have killed him
@@burnaaszn7681facts!!
at the end of the day shaq still got whooped on by Dwight mutiple times and we all seen it 😂
sounds like someone born in the 2000’s
Joker could absolutely give shaq headaches. Joker is a supped up Big Country Reeves 😂😂😂.
For people who never saw Shaq play, I’ll give you a perfect example. Remember when the Kawhi Raptors team built a wall and stopped Giannis? Ok. Now imagine Giannis actually bull dozing thru that wall and carrying all 3 defenders to the hoop and getting an and-1 every single possession… that was Prime Dominance from Shaq.
Except Shaq would foul out doing that. That's the real reason you don't see Giannis, Zion, etc doing it.
Well, the difference also is that shaq still had a nice offensive game. That little baby hook and floater, especially after a hop step or drop step made it really tough, and he was decisive in the post and was a decent passer too. Giannis doesn't have that nack to the basket game or touch, especially back then! 2019 he was strictly driving yo the rack, so the wall worked.
Shaq was pretty much bigger and heavier than almost everyone he played against. It’s easy to talk about being “physical “ when nobody matches you with weight. He was basically Mack truck down there. You’ve seen that size go down over the years. Nobody is close to weighing what Shaq was back then.
Shaqs last quote on dominate describes how dominant Lebron is and how dominant the bulls were with MJ.
Dominant? Last I checked Bron is sitting home 😂
@@RFSpartanwas Kobe or MJ even in the playoffs at this age?
All these years later im still in awe of how incredible prime Shaq was. I dont think we'll ever see another one like him.
Need knee pads?
@@tajsingh409 yeah,, I’ll ask your mom.
Big fat dude who couldn’t shoot?
@@angusdog22 no need, your mom should have some.
@@angusdog22aw you mad
Jj brought his A+ basketball IQ to Shaqs podcast lol
Ain’t gone lie, shaq treated them boys like Kids 😂😂
Shaq just fishing for compliments. Dude was unstoppable….no doubt about it.
I think JJ's point is that they might be physical but they're still fouls, so it's not part of the game. But Shaq is making some good points as well.
Fouls are part of the game. You are allowed up to 6 (in Fiba 5) each game. Low frequency/occasional flagrant (to break a guy out of rhythm i.e.) is also part of the game (you are allowed up to 2) Unsportsmanship like fouls are NOT part of the game (target for injury, hate, retaliation, and other contents which are not basketball)
@@user-jf9fd8pc6n I agree, but that's why I have an issue with a lot of older players trying to gatekeep. They make claims that certain players don't get the same respect because they couldn't play while they allowed barbaric behavior to cover egos and pride.
It's literally like jail ball principles. Because you weren't a good enough defender, you now resort to assaulting and injuring players to boost your ego. THATS not basketball. And making "unsportsmanlike conduct" a part of your judgement criteria is disingenuous and asinine. Shaq is basically saying he won't respect many newer players going forward because the rules don't allow them to "touch each other up (in Shaq terms)"
Even Shaq's entire MO when talking about talented guards is "back in my day I'd knock em out the air, and they'd think twice about coming in the paint" as if that's a great normal thing to do
@@KxngKUDAyou could actually reverse it as well and say the guys who were “physical” back in the day wouldn’t be able to hang with the skill and talent that is today’s NBA. I haven’t played basketball in years because I’ve played against too many unskilled physical players that would just straight up hurt you if hit them will skill and they couldn’t hang. Lol
Even on the topic of how “bad” the defense of the NBA is today, I argue that it’s not that the defense is bad but the offense is just so much more evolved and it’s much harder to stay in front of players today because of the level of skill. Guys like Kyrie will make anyone look like they suck on defense. Lol
@@DaveJLamar Let me preface this by saying I'm glad the physicality of older generations is going away because we are getting to see players last longer and be healthier coming out of the league.
With that being said though some of the reasons for the offensive explosion we're seeing isn't just skill and ability. Some of it is defense in the league lost a lot of tools that allowed them to control space on the court. If they aren't able control space how are they supposed to stop offense. Another reason that feeds into the inability for defense to control space is the more lax traveling and carrying calls in the NBA today vs 20-25 years ago.
It's much harder to keep a player in front of you when they have access to more of the floor in every direction that you know have to guard. Let's be real just like you can call offensive holding on almost every NFL play you could call travel or carrying on almost every NBA possession now.
@@jamiekelley4076 EXACTLY! I agree with pretty much everything you said. And this isn’t the players fault! Players will always look for loopholes in the rules that are given to them and it’s up to the league if it’s something they wanna fix or not. lol
But I’d rather watch skilled players than players clothes lining each other. If people wanna watch physicality in a sport go watch the MMA. 😂
I get what they’re both saying Shaq dominated because he was big and powerful and skillful. Ai dominated because of quickness and scoring ability. They play the game in two different ways but still dominated.
It was a grown man’s league back then, they had to be stronger against the “ physicality “. But today’s game much better and fun to watch BUT ONLY WHEN they actually play defense like in these playoffs.
Correction they had to be stronger against the guys who couldn’t guard them and resorted to violence instead
This was actually a really solid conversation, and they have such different views of the game. I know people talk about Shaq’s thoughts on basketball being so wild, but that man has the most unique perspective of the game as THE most dominant player ever… he just didn’t see it like the average fan angle, a role player, or even today’s stars. 1 of 1.
Respect to JJ for understanding that it doesn't really matter when his 🏀 IQ is higher than the players that are objectively greater than himself. It shows when he doesn't want to offend great players when talking to them and they can't comprehend what he's saying. He doesn't pry or try to win arguments with them. He 100% knows he's probably forgotten more about basketball than Shaq could ever hope to know, but will still always defer to him along with all the other legends. JJ's respect and love for the game is so genuine, and that's why the game along with all its proponents will always love him back 💯
a 5 minute segment should be dedicated on this podcast, every episode, for Shaq to shit on Dwight
Fouls are a part of the game , especially for Shaq since there was the Hack A Shaq lmao
Obviously..JJ talking abt hard fouls like they happened in the parking lot of the arena
@karunak5983 Some of those fouls belonged in an arena parking lot.
@@LarryLadale 😂
Lmaoooooooo “stop it, stop it” nah fr stop 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tell him JJ!!!... c'mon Uncle Shaq,it's not fair!🥺🍻🍺lol
Like watching a parent talk to a defiant toddler
I like the question jj!
Clotheslining isn’t basketball, that sums up the video
fouls are basket ball and hard fouls make people reconsider there actions, hard fouls for psychology
@@Kevin-rh8keI mean if Shaq admittedly said he does it every night, then the lesson never stuck.
the level of physicality is incredible😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
SHAQ out here thinking flagrant foul-2's anormal slap om the wrist
Fouls are apart of the game
Thank you for asking JJ 😂
Big man waited for the last 20 seconds to make his clearest point
Shaq Talks Like He Is The Best Basketball Player Ever And Couldn’t Even Shoot Free Throws😂
I will never forget the day my father showed me how men sit and how women sit. I had the same talk with my son the first time I seen my son sitting the way jj is sitting.
If J.J. becomes a basketball coach I m gonna follow his team the entire season.
I agree with both perspectives
I know how JJ feels. I’ve tried explaining things to my toddler as well. It’s tough.
I think they both make good points. Shaq makes a point about flagrants which does play a huge role on peoples play styles, energy, longevity, etc. JJ makes good points that they are flagrants and physicality has levels to it. Both can be correct and I think they are
I don't know how you view the word dominant. But the only sense where the word really fits onto a Basketball player, is if someone, meaning the other Team or the defending player, has to Change their usual playstyle or stategy to mess with your game in order to keep the "dominant" player in check.
Meaning, you need to change your regular game because someone forces you to do so.
And therefore there are many ppl like Shaq, Prime Lebron, Jokic and so one who could be considered "dominant players"!
A hard foul is a part of the game because is now becomes mental. It makes players think before driving to the basket. That shot may not be taken now. It’s mental.
dominance is simple to define, and its not about winning. cause if you talk about winning then its greatness. dominance simply means you can not be stopped whether u win or lose the game. there could be nights where your team sucks or the other team was just better, but as long as you could not be stopped on whatever it is you do, thats dominance. KD dominant scoring, curry dominant outside, shaq inside, prime dwight rebounding and defense, etc
Shaq need to show the new head coach of the Lakers some respect
Shaq is right. No need to redefine dominance. Just use the a different word to describe a different attribute
These young guys are just as strong if not stronger due to advancements in sports medicine and training programs. It's true the league was more physical back then and allowed more contact but if you put them in the same environment, they will adapt and hang just as hard. If LeBron at his size and athleticism played by old school rules guys would get laid out.
Dennis Rodman was always dominant, with low points (if any), high rebounds and steals. I'm with Reddick, it's all about perspective.
dope hoodie JJ
I would love to discuss this with Shaq bc I see him make this argument all the time. What Shaq speaks of is “Dominance” the continuation of being dominant. What JJ is describing is Dominant, where you can describe a singular performance as such. Shaq displayed Dominance throughout his career and he is recognized as the most dominant force in basketball. Dwight Howard at his peak in Orlando was a dominant player. It’s semantics but I believe it makes sense when you are clear in that fashion. Let’s talk Shaq! My uncle played At LSU the final four year and help recruit you. And I played under Ron Abernathy my brother, let’s go! Lol
Here’s something that is sad. Shaq is a 7’1 mvp with 4 rings and he is so uncomfortable in his own skin. I think this is because he knows the only person who stopped Shaq was himself he should’ve been the goat, but that doesn’t mean you have to discredit what guys are doing today.
“Could they play with us” who cares? They make way more money today and score way more points so why would they want to play with you guys? That’s is the goal because the goal is to be an excellent player in the time that they’re playing.
"Real physicality" in Shaq's definitions is the type of physicality that get called flagrant fouls, which I think is nonsense. Physicality in basketball should be being able to defend or attack vigorously with body while not trying to punch each other in the face or being physical that is basically a flagrant foul. It's basketball not MMA. You win by getting the ball into the basket more than the opponent while also preventing the opponent from getting points, not by messing each other up. Also, let's be real, the old generation of NBA were only physical and more defensive in the paint and not in the perimeter or beyond the 3pt line, which in today's NBA, you see players getting doubled and tripled beyond the 3pt line.
Just like what JJ said, there's a clear distinction between fouling and actual gameplay. if being physical means fouling, especially flagrant fouls, the NBA players of today would exploit that physicality and just get free points by getting free throws. Fouling should not be the first thing that comes into mind by players when the term "physicality" comes in, since committing fouls just gives free points to the opponent. Imagine the best player on your team is "physical" in shaq's standards, and end up getting ejected, eventually causing the team to lose, is just bad.
Yea intentional fouls are a thing, when i used to hoop, i was taught if a player gets too hot, send him to the line to try and throw off his rhythm but its KNOWN not to hurt them too badly out of respect for them. The definition of dominate is to be the most important or have most control over something meaning shaq’s right about this. The absolute force who runs the game is the most dominant by definition
Shaq talks like players were just fighting and not even playing basketball lol
Does Shaq have the ability to think dynamically? Tired of this only caring about physicality and clotheslines in the 80s. If thats all we care about the 40s-50s were the best eras, they were playing behind chain link fences in chuck taylors with racism. All eras of basketball are great in their own way. Respect todays game like you respect all the others, these playoffs have been great.
Shaqs speaking facts. The rule changes and nba is watering down the league. The league was better and more entertaining to watch, just was. NBA is promoting soft basketball, now all the players are complainers which lebron even identified in his new podcast. Shaqs right tho, and we all know it.
@@jcreature11bro sounds like a parakeet not an original thought in this whole comment. AI generated generic response about the game before and today no evidence whatsoever
@@DamianSAAAN I’m not on here too insult and belittle, that’s just some kid shit.
With racism…Listen to you. Bet you’d say there’s still racism in the NBA today too. Stop feeding into today’s fake racial problem. That’s all you’re doing. And yeah, I’m sure there was some racism back then, but at least black kids had a real family and the father stuck around and provided. Now it’s just mama. Mama’s a single mom with 4 kids and 4 different baby dads…if not more, all while collecting government assistance. Smh. I’m with Shaq and you need to man up. Check your plastic intake because I think it’s messing with your testosterone-it seems to be low.
@@DamianSAAAN for real lol
This is why he will be a good coach… he can challenge folks like Bron and Shaq respectfully…
Shaq bro come on. "A clothsline is not part of the game" - JJ " I disagree" - Shaq thats crazy
84 finals over 90 degrees in the building and they still played harder than they do today
No one, and I mean no one, likes to hear themselves talk more than JJ. The man can talk in circles for hours. 😅😅😅
Shaq is talking about the difference of earning a point and getting a chance to make a point. It's just a sample of what the next generation thinks, don't earn it because they deserve it.
Most of these players couldn't make it across half court with all they carrying/traveling in today's game 😂
Giannis championship season was pure dominance
we heard it here, shaq is cool with closelining people lmfao
Keep living in the past shaq, new rules you be out in the first quarter 😂
The NBA was definitely more physical in the 80's and 90's. The rules have changed to open up the offense so naturally teams have drifted more toward pace and space. You can't hand check anymore like you could in the past. The game is more finesse now
Shaq ass would have a heart attack mid game in todays game tryna guard a big man who can shoot 3s over 40%😂
Who’s guarding Shaq at the other end? Shaq shooting at least 80% lol
Yeah Shaq would def struggle guarding these big shooters but think about this .. shaq is gonna get easier looks to the basket if played 1 on 1 I would personally take a easier advantage to the rim then taking a 3 and I know analytics won’t back it up . And we know 3 is better than 2 but . Come on now the best look is always the better choice . So much that whatever team is guarding Shaq would have to double on him . Forcing Shaq to pass it to a most likely competent shooter . Shaq in today’s game would still be valuable .
Dirty doesn't mean physical. You can be physical without being dirty
Shaq don’t like that Dwight was dominate and sweet lmao
Trying to ask serious questions with his legs crossed like that 😂
You have issues is that’s funny for you bud
@carollasley6610
So glad JJ is calling games now. Watching him call all the Pacers games this year was fuckin awesome, he has such an interesting way of explaining things
Also I can’t believe Inside on TNT is ending this year…. I still don’t believe it’s real
Physicality???!!! Are you shitting me??? Hey JJ you have got to be the biggest marshmallow I've ever seen!
I wasn’t even good 😂
Shaq said Joker, rick spits and sobonis 🤦🏿♂️ that had to be for JJ
Dominating and being Dominate are different. Domimating can be minimized to a single task. "I am dominating the boards" current and in the present text. Dominate is a statement of who you are. To build a roster of centers. that job was to get 5 fouls to hope to contain, not stop its different. It was a backfire. If they did not hack a shack i think he would have stayed in shape because he would not rely on his size and strength. He would have averaged more stats. He would have won more rings. Dwight to Shaq could have been Kobe to Jordan. He was similiar off court and on court. Just didnt pay his dues
This is one reason I think JJ will be a good coach, he will challenge the star players. It will start out rough, but he will earn their respect.
Shaq would play Robinson and Ewing. He would have 36 points and 16 rebounds and 2 blocks. Robinson and Ewing would have 31 points 17 rebounds and 4 blocks and he “dominated” them. It’s ridiculous
Lmao shaq proved my point about old heads
JJ's issue with how dominance is viewed us valid...people list the best scorers of all time & don't have Bron in the list 😂...he's the greatest scorer of all-time .people may not like how it looks compared to another flashier scorer but if I literally do it better than anyone then.....
Shaq just compares white players with other white players all the time
Y’all don’t understanding thag fouling is apart of gameplay if u constantly get fouled and they don’t call it, that might get one person to stop driving and settle for bad jumpers cuz calls not going their way which is still gameplay affecting someone ability to play there game, fouling prevents that
Only player I ever seen Shaq not truly hate is Giannis post ring
Shaq is without a doubt the most dominant force the NBA ever had💯 just imagine if he made his FTs at a higher rate and he stayed in shape
Smooth brain meets wrinkled brain
Shaq is right, watch any JJ’s videos he uses the word great or dominant for anyone
I think the word Shaq is looking for isnt "Physical", its "Violent"... JJ is talking about physical play, Shaq is talking about getting hacked at and fouled. Shaq played in a physical era, but also a violent era. Players can still be physical and handle physical play, they just get called on violent non basketball plays. Hes being ignorant on purpose, typical shaq.
Shaq’s era wasn’t violent at all haha. I watched those games. Now Shaq himself got fouled a ton because he was so big and moved so well. No one knew what to do. It’s similar to peak athletic LeBron. Got fouled a ton.
What I won’t stand for is that the era was violent; it wasn’t.
I’m a Data Analyst and I want to make it clear that JJ looks at raw statistics. He does NOT look at analytics in a scaled environment, to give his analysis. He often compares players based on stats that weren’t adjusted to match with current eras. With that said, I love his takes on the game and I have a ton of respect for his career.
And all Shaq does is compare people to himself. Only thing bigger than him is the ego
People don’t know what hating is anymore. You can’t hate if your better🤦🏾♂️ who can Shaq hate on when he’s top 10 all time🤦🏾♂️ he only can hate on those in the top 10💯
shaq been a hater for like 20 years 😂
lol Shaq don’t even know he’s own criteria 😂
Orlando Dwight was more dominant than Orlando Shaq.
Y'all obviously didn't watch Shaq or Iverson. They were constantly on the floor, and it did impact their game. Constantly having a body on you and pushing off will wear you down fatigue-wise.
He was fucking bigger than everyone, he can't be talking about physicality.
Shaq has so much regrets and insecurities about his career despite how successful he was. It’s so apparent 😂
Everyone on the 90’s was just trying to out asshole each other
This aged well
I get both sides. But Shaq do be hatin 😂😂