Kia EV9 12V Batteries are Dying within Days of Taking Delivery!
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As a fellow I5 owner,
1.) why do you think Hyundai doesn’t replace the normal lead acid 12v with the AGM battery like you recommended?
2.) I would def agree not to loose sleep because believe it or not I had the exact same issue with my 2018 Civic I used to own. Had that car for 4yrs 30k miles and went through 2 or 3 12v batteries and I didn’t abuse the car at all. This can happen to ice cars too sadly😅
Good job of being honest and not jumping on defending Hyundai and Kia. Keep it up!
2k on my ev9 and no battery issue at all. Free charging is amazing and 300 mile range rocks. Even if I had to pay for charging it’s only about $7. Thank you K I A!
Corbin, hello again, I am told some ICE cars (my BMW M roadster for one) have charging system computers that are programmed to manage specific Types/capacties of batteries. Hence it may not be a simple matter of just not changing to a larger or different (AGM or Lithium) type of battery. Another note is my daughter purchased her Kia Niro EV Oct 13, 2019, and now is into it’s 5 year with it’s small original 12v battery (same as the one on my EV6) having never had an issue.
The Ioniq / EV6 owners manual also says it will only change so many times in a given period before stopping charging. They have been sitting in the cold for months coming from Korea and sitting in US ports. It's a bad stack of circumstances..had mine replaced in EV6 and it's not been an issue since
I have 7000+ km on an EV9 GT-Line. Flawless so far.
That's the disconcerting part about the EV9. Kia has outlined how the OEM 12V battery has been upgraded to an AGM type for the EV9.
Where is that documented?
It is on page 28 of the Kia EV9 Facts and Figures Guide if you search for it. There are also posts online that show the pictures of the battery under the hood, which is a new OEM AGM type.
I am the new owner of a 2024 EV9 GT-Line and also have a 2023 EV6 green limited edition. Both have had 12V battery issues, the EV6 a few months after I bought it, and the EV9 2 weeks after I took delivery in December. It's been extremely frustrating and it feels like Kia botched the launch.
Overall, it is a fantastic car with a very nice interior and QUIET ride. The second row relaxation package seating is a huge plus - none of my family members fight over where to sit in the car. You should see if a local dealer will loan you one to make a video about.
You featured my Facebook post in the opener. We are in FL, so no cold weather here. After our 12V died, we jumped it (your video on jumping the Ioniq 5 came in clutch, so thanks!) and took to the dealer. Initially it sounded like they were going to replace the 12V. The EV tech came out and then said unless the 12V failed their test, they couldn't replace it, as per Kia guidance. He did mention he saw all the posts on Facebook and Reddit about it, so hopefully it is something Kia fixes. All of this and the deafening silence from Kia really spoiled the car for us. Every day we stressed wondering if the car would be alive the next day. So this past weekend we ended going to our local Ford dealer and we were able to work a trade that got us our value back & put us in a F150 Lightning. Super happy with it and it will fit our needs well. Really disappointed in Kia, but when it was our only car and we have a baby, it just didn't sit right with us.
I don't own an ioniq 5 yet..but why isn't there a major battery recall? I see owners on reddit replacing the oem battery with a deep cycle agm battery. Why should a new car owner have to spend 300 on a batter for a car that's not even a yr or 2 yrs old?
It’s absolutely ridiculous!
It doesn't appear to be defective batteries causing the problem, and other posts say the EV9 is already using AGM batteries. It appears the battery is being drained by vampire loads, bad charging logic, excessive polling and response, etc. Such a shame Hyundai / Kia can't resolve after nearly 3 years of trying.
@@TheIoniqGuy its not defective battery.. well some maybe... its a particular usage pattern and the new drain on the battery which accelerates the 10 count ABS+ logic
It was not just E-GMP cars, my 2020 Kia Soul EV Limited here in Canada, had multiple dead battery events just past 1 year battery warranty, 2 service visits they said the battery was fine, I bought a AGM quality battery and not have any issues 3 years later.
Sorry to hear that. What’s an AMY battery?
@@TheIoniqGuyprobably mistype/autocorrect from AGM (absorbed glass mat).
2018 Hyundai Elantra, same problem but exasperated because of a bad starter - disengaged but energized. AGM battery cost ~$300 CDN as opposed to the same model at $129. I think that the supplier for Hyundai/Kia has bad batches.
@@TheIoniqGuy spell check, AGM I fixed it
I have EV9 Gt-Line in Finland from January 2 2024. Mine equipped with AGM battery (per manual and checked it miself). We had -25 C for a week. No issues with the battery so far. Using everything (including port lock and digital key). My wife drives EV6 Gt-Line from July 2023 (8k miles driven). No issues there. That doesn't mean it won't stop working today or tomorrow. 😂 but I feel you guys get something different in US.
I got a new EV9 GT-line in the Netherlands 3 months ago. I have had a dead 12v battery already 3 times in the last 4 weeks. Went to 2 different Kia dealers and they simply refuse to properly take care of the issue. They simply say - go drive for 45 min and the problem is solved... Now i'm escalating to Kia importer to see if that is going to help. But if I have these issues already mid summer, i'm wondering how this is going to be when winter comes.
@@marsarvdam9569 It seems so very different everywhere. I have now driven 12,000 km and have had no problems with the battery (fingers crossed). KIA dealership is a disaster. That is a fact. I had a lot of issues with them and had to get to the importer's top management and to the KIA Europe management. Thank God I met them during the EV9 presentation in Finland. Only when I brought all parties involved did things start to move. I share your pain :(
12V just died in my 2022 Ioniq 5 limited that I bought 18 months ago, I had to jump it every other day since January, finally took it to the dealership. It's been sitting there since Thursday and they're still running tests.
My hunch is that after the ICCU update they applied in November I have almost never seen the orange light on the dashboard, and I've seen it all the time before the update. I think they changed something about the logic that is used to recharge the 12V, and that made it worse. Or they messed something up when installing the ICCU update. Either way, I think the 12V should never ever be dead in a car with a huge traction battery that's full. If it's low, the car should recharge the 12V.
Also I wish the car displayed the 12V health and SOC in the infotainment screen like it displays energy usage. I did notice when "Other electronics" uses 0.5-0.6 kW while driving or in utility mode this means the 12V is low and is being recharged. I did notice this usage drop to 0.1-0.3 kW after a while, which I'm suspecting means that the 12V has been recharged and isn't consuming that much. But having explicit info would be much better. And I wish Hyundai collected telemetry about the 12V health and state of charge. It was insulting when the car was literally dead and I got the monthly email from Hyundai saying all systems are green and everything is great.
Very frustrating, the whole situation.
My 2022 Limited Ioniq 5 has been with the dealer since 12/12/23 as they try to figure out my 12V charging issue. While I love the car when it works, and it is one of the best options I've found, I am not sure I can do any of the HKG EVs in the future. Or at least I need to pick a car by how good my local dealer is if I don't go for a Tesla
I’m gonna be honest with you all. I own a Tesla and thier 12v batteries can go out between 1 to 3 years without warning. But it is a deep cycle battery. It’s all the interior electronics that draw power from it. Being these EV9 are being shipped from over seas Kia maybe putting older batteries in them meaning battery shelf life. Or the battery is just under sized. Maybe the fix is two 12v batteries in series. Gonna be watching this and what the fix could be.
You don't put them in series, that would give you 24v.
@@sprockkets
Maybe they need the electric draw split between two separate batteries then. Really not my issue but if I owned an EV9 I’d want a fast solution to this problem
@@SVUE-jj9jc IDK what causes this, but IMO this should just, never happen. The battery is just there as a buffer and to start the HV system. It should never be dead because the HV can almost always charge it.
But Kia/Hyundai have to have some dumb issue with their stuff. I rather have this than have the CEO be an meme edgelord and their cars have wheels come off on the highway.
Please! Not series, parallel. You don't want 24V fed into your on-board electronics.
I'm frankly appalled that they didn't solve it yet nor did they engineer a way to prevent the issue in the first place.
It happened to my 3-months old Ioniq 5 in December. The battery died while it was charging and I found the 12V to be measuring 3.46V in the morning, meaning it certainly sustained some significant damage in the process (which of course they won't replace since it's still working).
1. why do they let those battery discharge so much? At 10.8V a protection circuit should kick in and disconnect it, to prevent damage.
2. why can't they (for newer models) add this protection circuit and an override connected to the start button, so you can always at least start the car once you get inside it with the key?
3. as they have voltage sensors, why don't they use them to shut down the electronics once the battery is low if the car is turned off and locked, to prevent stranding people?
There's so many ways, both hardware and software, to stop these issues... yet they don't seem to want to implement any. How are they not worried about reputational damage after all the things that are coming out is beyond me.
I had an issue a week after purchase of my EV9….it is disappointing that there isn’t a fix…I didn’t know anything about this until after I purchased my car
@@vcooke6902 was your 12v battery replaced ? If yes, Did you face any other issues since the battery was replaced ?
I bought one of those battery chargers when we started workign from home during covid because our batteries werent happy about the neglect - i'll try to remember to keep it with my when i get my ev
OMG - forget range anxiety, I have 12v anxiety! I just got a new 2023 IONIQ 5 AWD 3 weeks ago and I love it, but… I have that lingering thought in the back of my mind about the 12v going bad. No issues yet.
I’m willing to just proactively replace it although I have a warranty. I’m just not sure if that would head it off or if it has more to do with the battery management.
BTW, for those folks who want these apps for discounts, etc., consider that your data is being sold and it s that something you want. Personally, I would not install these apps or participate in these programs for that reason in addition to what Corbin mentions here.
Keep a NOCO in the frunk always
@@MacEliot Yep, that is the exact brand I have!
You’re worried about something that hasn’t happened yet and statistically is taking part in a very small % of vehicles. Might as well go ahead and believe the world is ending soon due to global warming
I have been to the dealership to see the EV9 and the 12v battery was gone. Still, I will buy one. I already have a booster that I have used with my '91 ford scort. I will share my experience with you.
I got a new EV9 GT-line in the Netherlands 3 months ago. I have had a dead 12v battery already 3 times in the last 4 weeks. Went to 2 different Kia dealers and they simply refuse to properly take care of the issue. They simply say - go drive for 45 min and the problem is solved... Now i'm escalating to Kia importer to see if that is going to help. But if I have these issues already mid summer, i'm wondering how this is going to be when winter comes.
That's awful! It may be in your best interest to just replace the 12V battery yourself as it may be that the battery was damaged from deep discharge. I know that really stinks but it may cause the least amount of head ache overall than dealing with dealers and fighting with them to do something. Keep me posted though. I've been seeing a lot fewer reports of dead 12V batteries over the last few months but this clearly shows that the problem still isn't 100% resolved.
All lithium based boosters that I know of, needs the booster to be stored above 0 degrees Celsius (32F) - So I wouldn’t recommend storing it in the car in cold weather.
I've had mine for a week and not an issue has been had. It's a GT line.
Doom and gloom. How about a few suggestions on how to avid the issue?
I had the issue when I had a 2017 Kia. Known issue with the neutral position switch. It's hard to duplicate and I replaced the battery and still had issues intermittently. There is a work around though so youre not stranded. If you have this issue and vehicle doesn't turn over and seems almost dead, put key in ignition and turn to ign3 but don't start. Put vehicle in Neutral, then vehicle will start like noting happened
so odd, you'd think they have solved this issue by now.... though I have 2022 EV6, I never had a 12v problem yet.
I wonder how they prepare the EV9 and other EGMP platform vehicles for shipping in regards to the 12V because I’ve yet to have a single issue any issue and it’s faithfully topping off as needed so don’t expect to have any issue. 🤔 7:57
i am using a ohmmu 12v and its the best money spent 459$ and I have a dash cam hooked up to my ev6 gt over a year now. so far the orange light on the dash came on 3 times
Hearing about all of these battery issues (especially living in the northern US) has given me pause to trading in my ICE vehicle for an I5... I think I'll just bite the bullet and have two vehicles and have my truck as backup in the winter months.
Im standing in a parking lot right now with my dead ev9. I had the same issue with my niro ev. It’s unacceptable. How can this be an issue. And why isn’t there a feature to trigger the charger externally
I’m sorry to hear that! Not a fun way to start your Friday. Make sure to get a jump start pack to keep in the car. Do you have Kia roadside assistance coming?
@Jon, was your 12v battery replaced ? If yes, Did you face any other issues since the battery was replaced ?
I've had an Ioniq 5 since November 2021 and never had a 12V battery issue. And I've never heard of anyone in Australia having a problem either, even in cold weather. So I'm wondering if there is some quirky connection between the home charging setup and the fate of the 12V battery. Most Australian owners charge at home at our standard 240V and between 2 and 7 kW charge rate. I'm wondering if that is leaving our 12V batteries in a sufficiently good state that we don't have any issues? Also, why do only the US models have a 12V battery charging indicator? We don't get that and apparently don't need it - could that piece of circuitry be the culprit? Ironic Ioniq if so!
Interesting... in EU we do not have led light for 12V battery charging indicator on top od the dash as well. Also we do not have some common issues here with 12V battery in any KIA or Hyundai... So Its looks like that problem is mainly USA/CANADA ? Why ? That's the question?! In EU standart is 11kw home charging...
Also no 12v problems with my EV6 in NZ after about 20 months of ownership. I charge mostly at home with 3 phase @ 11kw. I’ve always suspected that this issue is related to the app which we don’t have in Australasia.
@@Kiwidaedong Well, it could be this problem as we do not have KIA Digital Key in Kia connect APP option here in Europe. Only classic physical remote key... So its looks like as problem.
Nope it’s here. My ev6 gt line 12v died after 18 months and then 2 months later the Iccu failed. And there is a EV9 owner on the FB group who has a 12v failure only days after getting his car
@@simonh6788 So maybe Ioniq 5 and EV6/9 are coming out of different factories or have some other point of difference for Australia that no-one has noticed?
That is weird. Because EV9 has been on the road in S. Korea for over 6 months, and I have not heard any 12 V issues.
same reason on thefts...
Hello, Nice recap on Hyundai's 12V battery problems. I wonder if the 48V system being adopted in some Tesla cars would remedy the problem. In addition to Ioniq Guy, anyone with an educated opinion?
I have an Ioniq 6, and I'm praying that the 7 will be just as reliable. I have rarely, if ever, seen complaints of the 12v on the 6. Maybe Hyundai's managed to find a fix? But still seems strange that it plagues even new Kia's like the EV9.
Does your car charging via type 1 or 2 charger ? Are you able to charge ? If not might be ICCU
I decided to wait ti get the 2025 model so they can iron out youth problems. Do you think it's gonna be fixed after 4 years?... /s
EV6 Owner here 60k 3rd 12v battery failed fitted an 12v AGM last September myself problem solved best $150 i ever spent on a car
So if you have your EV6 or Ioniq 5 sitting at your dealer trying to figure out what's up just bite the bullet and fit your own
What brand of AGM did you go with? I’m at this point of suggesting people just replace it themselves. At a certain point, your time is more valuable than fighting and going back and forth with the service center. I understand it’s frustrating and under warranty but they’re not going to replace it with a far superior battery
I forgot I had added my EV 6 to my Reliant energy account recently. Already had 12 volt replaced but it still happened again. Mine will drain to 0 % in about 2 hours. I have noticed I can still start cart as long as voltage is around 10 to 11%
I have 5 years old Mitsubishi outlander phev and battery still original
I hope Hyundai/KIA is watching this. They need to recall all the batteries and replace it with a better one. Or else, no one will buy their cars anymore🤨
I was planning to look at the I5 and EV6 today but man this video might of made me change my mind. Why is this still even a thing to deal with? I guess you get what you pay for.
Hi Corbin - what are your thoughts on a LiFePO4 battery?
I had this problem with my Honda Odyssey, it would constantly kill the battery and leave me stranded, after about a year of this I got rid of it. Hopefully this isn't a long term problem without a fix because that's how it was with Honda. I just let it be someone else's problem.
8:03 Got our EV9 End of March. Had to have the car boosted twice in the first week of ownership because of the 12v battery failing. It has been at the dealership ever since. We only put 300km on it and it is basically a very expensive paper weight at this point.
was your 12v battery replaced ? If yes, Did you face any other issues since the battery was replaced ?
Our battery was replaced but it did not resolve our problem
@@lifeinthedoghouse I’m on the same boat, my car is waiting at the dealership for 12V battery replacement, I keep hearing that 12v battery replacement will not solve the problem.
What issue did you face after 12v battery replacement ? Did KIA agree to replace your car ?
Replacing the battery did not resolve the issue. Our dealership was not very responsive to our problem. I finally got fed up and launched a complaint with KIA Canada. Our car was replaced. The new one has not had any 12V issues
So weird. I know my e-Golf is completely asleep when it is off (3G service is dead for many years now, so no connectivity via app). I have left car sitting for up to 3 weeks and saw no issues. Still using original OEM Exide EFB battery after 6 years and 65,000 miles.
My new ev9 GT was towed after 16 HOURS of ownership - dead 12v!
No! Did you purchase it recently?
NOT TRUE -I HAVE EV 9 GT LINE FOR MORE THAN 2 MONTHS -EXCELLENT DRIVE -I HAD BMW X5 2021 -KIA 9 GT LINE HAS A MUCH MUCH BETTER DRIVE -AND FULL OF OPTIONS .X5 IS GOOD TOO . EV 9 IS MUCH BETTER. MORE SPACIOUS-REASONABLY PRICED. I LOVE IT . I HAVE NO PROBLEM OF ANY KIND SO FAR. I HAVE TESLA CHARGER AT HOME -I GOT ADPTOR FROM AMAZON MAY BE FOR $40.00 OR SO . I CHARGE IT AT HOME . V12 BATTERY IS JUST FINE. SO DONOT WORRY -ENJOY THE RIDE . I HAVE DRIVEN ALMOST EVERY CAR -THIS EV9 GTLINE IS THE BEST .
They seem to have resolved the 12V issues but when the car first went on sale which is when this video is from, it certainly my was true
Start up Fisker sorted it immediately, why Kia can't?
My EV9 battery has an issue. I bought it a week ago and already in service DUE TO BATTERY! My battery was draining so fast that I demanded that they look at it. On my app, I can see that they are working on it and all of the error notices are flagged due to battery. WHAT THE WHAT????!!!!!
was your 12v battery replaced ? If yes, Did you face any other issues since the battery was replaced ?
Maybe it’s about time EVs abandon the 12V. 48V like the cyber truck?
Traded my 2 years old Santa Fe for Tesla MYLR, and never looked back....
The battery in my car went dead four times already since I purchased it in march 2022 and I have been stranded on the road twice. I brought it to the dealer three times and they play stupid like this does not happen to anyone else but me. They kind of indirectly fault me for causing the problem as if I do not know how to use a car. I thought of doing a Lemon law on this car but the problem did not start occurring until spring of 2023, in which time, I had over 23K miles already on the odometer and it was too late to file suit in NYS. Sadly, I worry that if I do not use the nearly brand new Ioniq for more than 2 days, I am worried that it will not start. Aside from this 12v battery issue, I find out that my two year old Ioniq5 is only worth 50% of its original msrp value. NEVER EVER A HYUNDAI OR KIA EVER AGAIN!!!!
That really sucks but the resale value isn't a Hyundai/Kia thing, that's any EV brought on by Tesla dropping it prices significantly last year.
@@TheIoniqGuyThis is true. BTW, I watched all your videos regarding getting the battery conditioning update and after showing at least two different TSB print outs to the Hyundai dealer, my dashboard still says winter mode instead of battery conditioning mode. Would you happen to be able to point me in the right direction from here?
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You mention the "Yellow top optima battery".
Do you have a link to the specific compatible battery?
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@@TheIoniqGuy Wow that's expensive! I know it's not AGM but maybe the $90 Costco battery with three replacement warranty might suffice, just sayin'
P.S. she is currently stranded with her ev9 waiting for roadside assist, which KIA indicated will take up to 2 hours.
Imy ev6 been a year now i have no issues with 12v battery..
would a lithium ion 12 volt work in a ionic 5? Why do you think Hyundai doesn't use this as Tesla does"
Design Fault by Hyundai. They use "polled" check, 6x per day on the 12V battery. Means a large power-draw between polls can flatten the battery w/o the car realising! Should have been "interrupt-driven" check, triggered by 12V voltage falling below a safe level. Same system in use since '28 came out circa 2012.
I don't understand. I have a 2023 Niro EV. It's not on the GMP platform though but I haven't had these issues 7 months in. I installed a BMS device as I was paranoid and it's very consistent when the battery is being charged. I can go a whole day when the 12V not needing to be charged when sitting there. WTF?
Don't forget ioniq 6 vehicle owners too. Same issue.
My daughter just traded her EV6 for a new ev9 because the ev6 had the exact same problem . That is just plain greedy to put another vehicle on the market, charge an outrageous price for it & not even fix the problem that they knew already existed with the previous model.
We are three weeks and 1 day into owning our new EV9 and this morning we found it dead. Charging the 12v battery right now.
So frustrating!
I am thinking of a situation in which portable battery might be dead.
Can we charge the portable battery being used tovjump start 12 V battery with the high voltage battery in EV9 when 12v battery is dead?
was your 12v battery replaced ? If yes, Did you face any other issues since the battery was replaced ?
Unrelated, but related, we’ve been waiting for a 12v for a 2019 Ioniq Electric for nearly 2 months. It’s ridiculous.
What's draining them ? We don't have this issue in Australia
Yes we do
I have an EV9 GT-Line with a failed ICCU less than three weeks into the lease. It sounds like a fix is a month or more out. Extremely discouraging after the experience with our Ioniq has been so good.
Woooow! Are you going to try to get them to buy it back?
If it’s there for more than 30 days when NY lemon law kicks in, absolutely. I would hate to spend the money, but at that point I’d probably be looking at an R1S. 😕
At least it being a lease should make it a bit easier since it’s not really your car. Yeah that’s a decent price jump. How does your EV9 lease compare to Rivian leases?
Not as significant as one might think, but definitely not nothing. $230 more per month before factoring in taxes and fees, so likely $400+ in reality.
What makes you feel it's a month away? I'm waiting for this fix too. Do they even know what the issue is?
Edit - I mean the general 12v battery drain issue.
That's terrible news.
So far, our 2024 EV6 that we bought a month ago has been fine.
I don’t understand why they aren’t using lithium 12v batteries? They discharge way better without a huge drop off. They are more expensive to make but come on man lol
Lots of BEV have issues with 12v batterys unfortunately
It's a kia thing though that for whatever reason, they have issues with.
Corbin, I have had a 2023 EV6 for 11 months. I have never had a 12V battery issue. I do have a yellow light (when illuminated) on top of the passenger side dash which I have noticed on a couple times when the car has been turned off. I was told when that light is illuminated the high voltage battery is charging up the 12V battery? Is that true? If so then the 12V battery should never run down. Correct or not??
Yes it does. It comes down to excessive draw and charging not occuring like it should
So since the 12V battery on my car is automatically charged up by my high voltage battery and I have BCAA (British Columbia Automobile Association) service that quickly provides onroad boost service there should be no concern. The same hopefully should happen for the EV9 order that I have put a deposit on assuming the EV9 also will have that little yellow light that illuminates on the dash.
My Ioniq 5 has a NOCO permanently attached to the 12v
We have had our EV9 for 2 months. Woke up this morning and the car was dead. Nothing would work or turn on. We then just connected the battery to another in another car and without turning on the other car the EV9 started right up.
Does anyone know a fix other than replacing the battery.
Thanks!
@Aaron, was your 12v battery replaced ? If yes, Did you face any other issues since the battery was replaced ?
Dang was looking to purchase an EV6 GT today too. This isn't making me feel confident whatsoever.
An AGM battery must be recharged differently than a lead acid battery. The maximum voltage applied to an AGM battery must not exceed 14-15 volts. The lead acid battery can have a voltage applied that is 17 or greater volts. The charging circuitry for a lead acid battery can be very detrimental to an AGM battery. I would NOT replace a lead acid battery with an AGM battery. They are not interchangeable.
The dc to dc converter outputs about 14.5V to charge the battery
The bigger problem is that KIA doesnt OWN the problem and just points to 3rd party apps being the problem.
Thank God the theiving Kia dealership caused me not to buy the EV6.
Let me guess, idiotic markups?
Hyundai had that issue too. The issue of dead 12V batteries was caused by the infotainment system was checking for updates numerous times during the night. A software issue addressed the issue.
The car is great but way too expensive i have kids but the price doesn't justify it at all they need to come down at least $10k on each variant
What are you talking about! You haven't seen EV9 and you're just interpreting some dubious information. I have an EV9 and I don't know anyone who has a battery problem in Europe.
In the past 6 months there have been plenty of accounts on the various groups about 12V battery problems. Take a look and use the search function
@@TheIoniqGuy The problem with the battery arose mostly because it had been sitting for a long time during shipping or at the dealer. If you don't have your own experience, don't comment, you're just distorting the information.
I’m capable of reading and interpreting a situation. I didn’t realize only owners of things were capable of knowing what was happening with them. They released multiple software updates that specifically claimed to resolve 12V battery issues. I’m done arguing with you over this. You don’t even live in the US so maybe your cars were perfectly fine. I’m happy for you.
$60k KIA😂
I took delivery of my ev9 i switched out my 12v battery for a lithium ion battery because most of these ev's come with an old style lead-cadmium and the EV is so tech heavy that they cannot handle the heavy load
Ohmmu?