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Typically when you buy something "gaming" like a mouse, you'll get improved performance with the product. That is not the case with Gaming Chairs and in many instances they can actually be worse than a normal office chair. In this video, Ryan shares 5 Reasons To AVOID Gaming Chairs!
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I have a Versa gear chair, rated for 450+ lbs, i'm 230, it started falling apart in 2 months. With covid I had issues contacting customer support, then they changed their file warranty methods. In the end I never got any help with the chair and after 14 months, the bolts have snapped, it nearly reclines all the way to the floor. The metal frame as streched bolt holes because low grade metal. Never buy these pleather chairs. One of the worst purchases in my life. I paid nearly 500.00 for this chair, I would love to post photos of it for an extended warranty!
@Rob Alexander hey big fella post it and let the bolts errrr chips fall where they lay...stay focused and stay safe friend.
i sit on a plastic chair with a blanket on it, why I'm watching these 100-500$ chairs lol
They or OK. For lounge chairs???
I sit on a small couch that fits one person and its better than most luxury gaming chairs 💀
I recant my recent post tried the 2 gaming chairs
I've already taken them back they are unsuitable for anything typhoon was the brand costing
$ 500- each.
Me too, ill rather instead spend the money on an awesome new PC Build, besides the PC Build would most likely last longer than the chair.
That's where we all start bro
The chair game is crazy, son! I started spending more time at my desk since I purchased a new headphone, dac, amp set up. I quickly realized that my DX Racer with the RGB lights was not a great chair for relaxing to music. 😁
Started researching comfortable chairs and had no idea how much a chair matters and how much knowledge is out there. They are even chair tier list that are actually more useful than fighting game character tier list!
This channel is legit. They helped me narrow it down to the Amia, Embody, and the Leap V2. Went with the Embody and this may be the best purchase I made in years! Once I got it all dialed in, it’s been nothing but maximum comfort!
The unexpected thing that I love about the embody is that it dances to music with your body. When bopping your back and shoulders to the music, the chair bops with you while supporting your back. Dope!
Had the Embody for about a week and I am kicking my self for not investing in a quality chair sooner!
Thank you for the kind words about the channel!
Dang, you made a HUGE upgrade. That’s a sweet chair for sure!
-GK
These seem to focus on design rather than functionality. The design is the selling point. About 15 years ago I got sucked into the $99 faux leather office chair from a big office store. Sure it felt great during the 15 to 20 minutes time I tested it at store but for hours at home I soon realized I had made a big mistake and returned it.
Design IS the thing -GK
i bought a $100 computer chair like 20 years ago at the store and it was insanely comfortable. i spent hours a day at my computer and never once felt uncomfortable in that chair, i often fell asleep in it. it didn't recline or anything but it rocked a little bit. wish i could remember what brand it was though because from the sound of it, it was far more comfortable than these gaming chairs that cost far more money.
Same
Thank you for all the chair videos! They've given me a lot of good pointers to take into account. I sat in the Secret Lab Titan and was about to buy one, liking the integrated lumbar support in the 2022 model. Then I found out about Secret Lab's quality problems, and shady influencer marketing you mentioned. Trying to maximize the value for my money, I went from the EUR 600 Secret Lab to EUR 1500 Malmstolen 4000... It really hurts my wallet, but that is far better than my back hurting. On top of the superior comfort, I'm expecting to get much more years of use out of the proper office chair compared to a gaming chair.
i bought leap v2 with headrest.. i had gesture but back pain... leap v2 with headrest and without lumbar is s tier in comfort?
I may be a little out there when it comes to an opinion on this. But I miss my 'gaming chair' and I think I am going to go back to one very soon.
When my old gaming chair finally bit the dust after four years, I researched and everyone pointed to the ergo office chairs. So I went with one. Struggled a year with it and started getting back pain from it. No matter how I adjusted it I just couldn't get it right. I never had this issue with my old chair. I just felt that from my shoulders up I had zero support and it would make me hunch forward, making the problem even worse.
I then went with an 'executive' style chair and although it's comfortable, I run into the same issues. It's fine for sitting back and watching TH-cam and what not, but when you are "active" as in engaged in a game or reading an article, I start hunching forward.
With the gaming chair I had in the past, my back pains I had prior went away. I felt like I could just sit back and the chair would support me and force me to maintain a proper posture while I was sitting in it.
That's just me though.
I'ts really important having those side-bolsters to hold you in your seat as you hit max g-force, spinning the chair around when you get up to go for a piss.
Very true🤣👍🏻🏴
reclining is the part that breaks the chair.
Tilting and adjustment is the part that breaks the chair. I got a great warranty coverage. But the chair broke almost immediately.
The other reason why people don’t get a gaming chair is because of the material. PU leather after some time, especially in warmer climates, commonly peels off after prolonged use/exposure to humidity, so its very nasty for long term durability. It’s also less comfortable/sweat-friendly than a mesh chair in my opinion.
Gaming chairs with fabric upholstery are more breathable too but they tend to cost more and stain a lot more easily. That’s why my setup has a full mesh chair instead of the Secretlab and I never regretted my choice✌🏻
Agreed on the PU vinyl, especially with the cheap gaming chairs -GK
In my opinion leather chairs are more comfortable than fabric chairs
I bought the DXRacer Ocelot World chair ages ago, something like 7 years, give or take. The build quality was great and still 'feels expensive', even the seat foam has hardly compressed with God knows how many thousands of butt-hours (I spend ALOT of time at my comp). Still, after a couple of years that PU leather was already starting to fail, and now it looks a total mess. Good comfort still, but embarrassing to look at. That's the last time I buy a PU Leather chair, it's like a built-in shelf life.
Great video. I was wondering why I felt so uncomfortable in my gaming chair. You are spot on with everything. The seat cushion is as flat as it can be. The back rest is hard and flat. Bigger ppl cant fit in these chairs.
So what's are you suppose to do if you have a budget of 100$ and just need a decent ergonomic chair??? All I keep hearing is get a office chair, gaming chairs are shit and then proceeds to tell something that's just way to expensive. I can't afford those at the moment so what is the next step??
Omg thanks for enlighted me. U made a lot of good point that i didnt see. I was thinking about to buy gaming chair or ergo chair. But now i think ergo is better for my back. All i need is for the good of my back but not for the racing design!🎉
Gaming peripheral/hardware manufacturers known for their mice, keyboards, etc. delved into the gaming chair market a couple years after DXRacer became a big thing. I wished they went for more proprietary designs instead of using a cookie cutter design. Like a fully adjustable mesh chair with RGB lighting or something instead of using a bucket seat design. Logitech partnered with Herman miller to make an Embody chair to achieve the gamer aesthetic without the bucket seat design. The only bucket seat gaming chair that I find comfortable for long term sitting is the Maingear Forma GT. I’ve sat on one in micro center and removed the lumbar pillow and it still supports my lumbar.
I love how gaming chairs are "hugging" me. For sitting in front of PC, tight seat (like in sport car) is much more comfortable for me than ergonomic chair or even huge livingroom armchair. Thats why I decided for Gaming chairs. Only disadvantage i see, is that i cant sit cross legged, which i would like to time to time. Headrest is dealbreaker for me too.
That's why Im getting one with a footrest huehueehue
Very good points well made thank you. Useful
Hello guys, what do you think about the Neuechair from Secretlab ? Have you ever tested it ? I would like to know what is your opinion on that specific chair. Thanks and keep it up !
That chair is shortlisted to be purchased next. Stay tuned and it should show up in the coming weeks -GK
Uhm... Doesn't the lever on the right side of the GT chair allow it to recline? I need a chair with a back to replace my shop stool as it's killing my back while I play a few games, and I don't want to spend more than $130 on something that is going to be in a shop/garage environment... Any ideas?
I am curious what your thoughts are on LFGaming chairs. They are a brand (or a subsidiary?) of Lifeform chairs. Basically these are high-end custom office chairs with "gaming aesthetics" (not my cup of tea personally) but the ergonomics of a high-end executive chair. They are quite expensive though, which is unsurprising since they are custom made in Canada.
It's automatically better than every single gaming chair brand lol.
I have been using a DXRacer chair for gaming at home and selected it for the optional mouse pad armrest attachment. I do not game at a desk or table, but in front of flat-screen TVs. I would be interested in finding a more comfortable office chair with a mouse pad armrest, perhaps even an adjustable pivoting keyboard tray to get mine off of my lap. I haven't had any luck trying to track one down myself and I'd like to retire my current one, thanks!
Do the armrest attachment you have from DXracer allow you to attach to any chair with an armrest? Might have your solution already -GK
@@btodtv As long as the bolt hole pattern matches, I could use it on another chair, I suppose.
Okay, they probably make other solutions that clamp to an existing arm. Not sure how stable or good they are, but it might open the door to better chair options -GK
go to ikea, get a markus
i bought budget office chairs and gaming chairs for about 5 years, none of them lasted 12 months - i work from home so they have heavy use, the ikea costs around 2x but it's been ~4 years and it still looks new, padding is still perfect, construction is excellent quality - they have a 10 year warranty
easily the most comfortable office chair i've bought, i actually like it more than the old aeron chair ($1k) i use to have at work
you can not go wrong with an ikea markus, if they are still selling them it is a no-brainer
Not having a headrest is a dealbreaker for me on a office chair, using it at home it has to serve all purposes. I guess that's where secret lab or dx racer's Air line are a great option for both scenarios. Working and relaixing /gaming
true i am searching for a chair, i have a alphagamer for 5 years but its pieling it self and creates a lot of trash, and the head supprt for a more relax mood its very important and other normal chairs dont have it or if they have it they dont have the tilting back mechanism or are too expensive, like close to 300
@@josecastanhas3497 I bought a dxracer Air, have it for almost 2 months now, amazing
Funny thing is the pre-roll ad when I tapped this video was for some gaming chair brand I had never heard of called Andaseat.
Haha. Maybe not the best video to advertise against? -GK
I use the Secret Lab Titan. Trying to upgrade to a better chair for my lower back pain. Anyone have any good suggestions?
We've got a few videos you could watch ;) -GK
im still enjoying my cougar fusion x gaming chair since i bought it 2 years ago, what i really liked was the backrest because of its curvy design i can almost sleep on it comfortably
My gaming chair has a massage pillow, a foot rest, reclines, has adjustable arm rests, and looks cool. An office chair would maybe have adjustable arm rests.
Name of the keyboard in 0:06 please? Looks like DreamKeyboard for me.
In my case, a gaming chair was the most comfortable for my office. I have degenerative disk disease & the pronounced curve ("lumbar support") in office chairs is excruciatingly painful. I got a fully loaded Aeron thinking the adjustability would be best. It was unusable for me.
A Flat back & seat is the only arrangement that is not painful. Once you remove the lumbar pillow, these gaming chairs provide just that & at a fraction of the cost. The only difficulty is finding one that doesn't look like it should be equipped with fart cans & a spoiler.
i think most people dont consider that gaming chairs are made for ergonomics
and ergonomics is what makes your aiming good
Did you 'mold in' your Aeron? consider your back was used to a common chair and of course trying to 'fix' your posture is going to hurt.
Also...maybe the Aeron isn't for you. It's not for the 100% population, there are other ergonomic chairs, however consider my first point will happen
same for me, tilt and recline mechanism takes off the load from spine completely
My $230 Ergonomic Mesh Chair is ❤. Has soft adjustable headrest and arm rest, thick mesh, adjustable foot rest, adjustable lumbar support, as big as a secret lab gaming chair, fully reclinable, very sleek looking and has premium plastic and metal materials. I’ll never wish to “downgrade” to a $500+ gaming chair.
Yenny
Make? Model? Brand? I am looking for a really good chair with all those features.
Just goes to show you that everyone needs to shop around first than to go for the first thing you see...go girlfriend.
@Gamer Singer shop around first friend don't get baffled into believing you should take the first thing you see...read all the posts people have done
Right here on u tube...OK. lemme know what you get, this is getting quite interesting 😏 🤪
Stay well.
Don't know about that. Owned a 400$ office chair and while it's good, it's not nearly as comfy as the secret lab gaming chair that my fd has. That chair felt like a really nice sofa sitting or just laying back from table for listening to music
i think u got the wrong size for the secretlab for body size it shld be XL as i am 181cm and it fits me as i am quite skinny , the XL size also accomodates a small range of the regular and u wld get 1 to 2 inch more space , and i dont think your chair mainframe shld be flexible it would just snap if u stretch to relax
What’s the white ergonomic chair shown in the video kind of at the beginning?
Sidiz T50 chair -GK
Thank you very much. What are your thoughts on it? And what about the T50? I think you put the T50 as D tier because of the lumbar support so I am a little surprised for being it in this video.
Can you review the DXRacer Air Mesh? I know its a gaming chair, but its different because everything is mesh from back rest to seat.
I recently got a gaming chair and it felt good for 2 days then it was just super uncomfortable after. The lumbar support was trash, the neck pad was trash, and the seat was so damn hard.
Need for Speed: Tokyo Drift is my favorite gamovie!
Slightly more seriously, for the past 7 years I've been sitting in a DX racer gaming chair that's falling apart again (I already replaced the armrests and tilt mechanisim) and in doing chair reaseach I found your channel and your advise. My new HM embody is ariivng soon!
but if you get a good racing chair it wauld still not be bad right?
Tendentious presentation. 1. Don't buy ANY chair that is not fit for you, try before you buy every posture you use sitting at your desk 2. Really cheap pillow can be changed for really good pillow, it's not truth that it's getting compressed that much and if such pillow exists - change the foam or pillow itself. Also you don't have to force your shoulders to be supported, don't be silly XD. 3. Truth, but not to the point that you're mention. You can strech a and move around actually. 4. Truth, mechanisms are less complex. It's not hard to recline on a racing style chair. You just have to set the spring tension that you have underneath. I can't imagine myself using it fully loosened. Also - hitting desk with your knees? Srsly? It's like telling ppl to not buy chair with wheels cus you can drive over your toes. Seat depth, cushions is all about points one and 2. 5 warranty coverage - chairs are not rockets, you can actually repair them easly and it's not something outstanding to see dxracer chair still operational after 15 years of abuse.
Ergonomic chairs aren't meant to need pillows to support you. 2. Replacing a low end pillow, like DxRacer, with a high end one, from a brand like Secret Lab, changes nothing about the ergonomics of the chairs. It just feels little nicer to the touch. 3. You can move and stretch very, very little, and it is very uncomfortable compared to a chair that isn't designed with an all-steel frame that is meant to cradle you in one static position, like a racer. 4. Mechanisms are less complex Racers for sure. Its because they are the cheapest, lowest end mechs on the market. Its why they have a center tilt mech with terrible tension adjustments. The recline point is at the worst point possible, which makes reclining much more difficult than any of the other mechanisms because you are fighting gravity and your body weight. And yes, hitting your knees is a problem. We mention it on Racers because this is not a problem on a chair with a proper mechanism. Mentioning that you may roll over your toe doesn't make a ton of sense because all chairs have wheels and therefore all share the same risk. We are talking about different recline mechs here and how they function differently. 5. I completely disagree that chairs are easy to repair, especially a DxRacer. Its why there is so much focus on warranties on the chair market. The parts are not readily available and accessible. they are not easy to swap and repair and low end chairs like DXRacer hardly hold up long enough to be worth repairing.15 years on a DxRacer? No Shot. -Ryan
@@btodtv They don't but it does not mean that they don't need. Science of 'proper posture' did not change vastly for 13 years, and it's based on ideas from 1970. 2. False. First of all every spine is different, every cushion is different, every foam is different. There are multiple ideas for lumbar support, from rolled towel to memory foam cushion. They come in different shapes and density which are in fact do impact your posture. You do realize that you can easly swap pillow filling dont you? 3. Sorry lad you said that it has none, as I said it was tendentious, now you prove my point. "You don't have ANY freedom of movement" does not equal 'very, very little', funny, english is not my first language and I understand it better than you. 4. Yes I do understand your point, but hitting your knees is your stupidity just like rolling over toes is. It's not the point against more simple mechs. I do find your opinion on 'hard recline' hard to believe as I have no problem with it at all. Even now I have no problems and I can go lower on string tension, which in fact you do not even care to mention that you have option to set it. No wonder why I saw ppl being amazed that there is actual big f knob under the base. 5. Lad, I did bought 2012 DX racer formula myself with damaged upholstery on the base, sqaeking like crazy. First you use lithium grease on every mechanical part, base bolts, clean and check bearing condition, grease, seal, grease, wheels grease or change (super simple). You have clear info how to do that on YT. Because those parts are easly avaible you can find them in every office chair that ends up in a dumpster for free. As for upholstery jopb, DX racer base cushion is super simple to remove it was my first time ever using needle and all modifications took me one day. Payed for a chair 12 USD, 28 USD for parts, material, new cushions from gt omega sidemen edition and roller skate style wheels. Show me any warranty that is cheaper than 28 USD and one day job which makes a chair even better in the end. I have a second one waiting to be repaired and sold for profit. Lad you know nothing about chair repair for sure. If you want I can PM you my chair photo, so you can see serial no. for yourself. Don't try to fool ppl Ryan, unless there is backseat upholstery dmg which I will try next time doing myself with new project every part of the chair can be repaired even for free with ease, and all parts are avaible on the market cuz these are not gaming chair parts - these are office chair parts with a fancy chair on top. Only broken steel frame can make chair a lost cause. You can buy used base or backrest from different chair thought but sometimes you have to be patient. You mentiones focus on warranties - yes - companies do care about warranties, offices need to be operational, there is no option to repair chair by the company and workers have to sit on something. There is also the lazy market, and from that lazy, uneducated or simply "i have no time for such thing' market when they're out of warranty I do buy chairs for lautghtable prices and sell those to the same 'lazy do DIY but I have no cash for a new fancy chair'.
I’m not trying to fool anyone. We have a chair refurbishing business we do thousands of them a year. I am very well versed in what it takes to repair, fix and refurbish chairs. I stand by my point that the chairs you are talking about are in fact the lowest quality chairs in the market. You’re lucky to get 3 years out of one of these chairs and certainly aren’t worth buying used. -Ryan
@@btodtv Yet you claim that parts that are needed for dx racer fix are not readily avaible and accesible while you can even farm them for free, curious. You do have right to your opinion, but Ryan that joke on being lucky is nobel prize in bs department. Have great day sir.
I’ve used a regular chair for gaming for over 20 years with zero back issues. I got an RS gaming chair a few months ago and my back hurts all the time.
You forgot to mention that a good office chair, the one that you show in the video, costs more than 500-600 euro..
There are so many questionable moments when thinking about buying a gaming chair that if you buy something that is not good enough, you may fail hard.
Oh man 😅. I literally just hopped off my secret lab evo 2022 to lie down for a bit after only being at my wfh desk for an hour... I go to have a little gander on TH-cam and this pops up! I agree with everything conveyed in this video. Absolutely hit the nail on the head. I think if your setup permits you should get a task chair for wfh and a relaxing chair for when you want to relax. Combining them together is asking for a bad time!
Id had back surgery for scoliosis so I don't know how on earth I fell into the gaming chair hole, guess they have a real good marketing team. I'm going to be getting an aeron or embody once I've weighed up the pros and cons of each. Not easy finding a good chair when your back isn't necessarily straight.
YT is listening 👂-GK
I have too
I found the mesh zones of the Aeron Remastered to be super comfortable for myself (also have a noticeable case of scoliosis due to a slightly short leg) -- it just accommodates (and pushes back into) my warped back in a different way and it's genuinely felt like I just got a light massage after trying out the chair in the store for somewhere between an hour or two, using the basic zonal backrest with forward seat tilt engaged. Definitely give that a go, if our backs are busted in a similar way that may just be it.
the first time i saw nigahiga sit in one i thought it was cool in 2013. nowadays we know it is utter garbage
Have you guys reviewed the Sidiz T80?
Not yet -GK
I just bought Corsair T3 rush and its uncomfortable as hell.
seat is too small im just 175cm and chair feel like you sit in a ecomonic class in the airplane so small and everything is just annoying.
i have to go to ergonomic chair now
before i bought gaming chair i was like im gonna be fine with it but damn
Ah well, at least the CEO of Secret Lab is laughing all the way back to his 50million dollar bungalow here in Singapore 🥲
That hits harder than the Titans seat pan 🤣 -GK
can you make a detail review about ikea markus?
Yes of course! -GK
I use a himoni h1 pro. Phenomenal chair, like sitting on a cloud.
iv had full recliners and iv had low tear and medium tear gaming chairs... go with medium tear gaming chair its cheap about 160, 200, its sleek comfortable easy to clean.
On the contrary overpriced office chairs are a scam, and I feel bad for anyone who foolishly wasted money on something like a Herman Miller. 5% more comfort, 4x the price.
“5% more comfort” tells me you’ve never actually used the right ergonomic chair -GK
You don't know the first thing about ergonomic chairs lol, your comment screams "I'm a butthurt guy with a gaming chair".
How tf do you even quantify comfort? It's highly subjective and just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that the rest of share the same opinion. People who buy gaming chairs are the ones who are wasting money, because they'll have to replace them multiple times over a decade.
True leap v2 so expensive and very recommended but causing pain! $100 gaming chair so comfy!
I tried the Embody, Aeron, Leap and Amia. I only found the Embody and Amia to be comfortable. Aeron felt like a cheap sub $200 chair from Staples, the mesh was very firm, and lumbar was very uncomfortable, I also tried the ones with the newer posterfit lumbar it felt a little better. I would take a $200 Akracing Core gaming chair over them anyday.
Can you do a review of the $3000 Hag Tribute chair?
I find gaming chair seating to be larger and more plush, and that the pillow as lumbar support is better than frame based lumbar support. Office chair seating requires you to sit in a certain position, often resting your back on the back of the chair. You can rest your back on a gaming chair but pillow as lumbar support allows you to also sit forward in a variety of positions. The tilt lock on gaming chairs allows you to tilt your chair in a more comfortable position. For me, as someone working in a chair for 10 hours a day, office chairs look underwhelmingly designed, and they sit the same way too. I don't see the value in a Herman Miller Embody, Aeron, Stealcase Leap V2.
Man idk. I love my secretlab. Had it for about a year now and still an awesome chair.
Most probably issue is that he have wrong size here.
I was using cheap gaming chair and then tried to use some ergonomic... I hated them. I bought SL Titan Evo XL and IT is awesome...
We shall not sit many hours in one chair. We shall move!
Gaming chair works with my back. Staying in good position does take out the load from the back. Office chair does comfortable and good positioning if wanted, but that position actually is very uncomfortable to maintain on the office chair.
I think people completely forget when you are playing a game you don’t have your back straight to the chair. Unless you’re playing on a couch or something you just don’t do that. So them complaining about not being able to fit defeats the purpose of a gaming chair over all
Watching while waiting on Mt delivery 😢😅
went from a bean bag to a kitchen chair now ive had a devoko racing chair for 2 years that i got used for $40 delivered to my house . im 5.10 280 pounds best money ever spent .
actually it's quite good. i got one look alike the left i tried it for 3 hours now and for the first time i go to bed and not have back pain good points tho
My physical therapist actually uses a Noble Chairs Icon in his office. So surely it's ergonomic if an actual physical therapist, someone specialised in ergonomics and seating positions, uses a gaming chair...
Because he moves... Problem is not a chair.. problem is when we sit longer time without move.
i wish i had bought an office chair instead of a gaming chair. they are so garbage for comfort
but do office chairs have RGB LED bluetooth speakers? I think not!
It comes down to where the customers place the value. How many people wear uncomfortable clothes because they are stylish? I have never climbed inside a sports car that did not have issues getting in or getting out or not feeling every bump on the road. How many bikers ride bikes with rigid seats for comfort? Ergo-chairs are for people who work in an office environment and put a lot of hours sitting down. who wants to sit down and relax on a gaming chair? They are upright and rigid because while you are gaming, you are squirming around in any case. To me, what you have to watch out for is the actual chassis, the wheels, the arm-wobble and the gas cylinder that controls the height. Poor wheels drag, wobbly arms can be a pain in the neck and if the gas cylinder starts to loose pressure, then it is trash.
Perfect analysis...
anda seat darkknight is comfy tho , but cost 650
If only you have told me that when i bought a titan secretlab chair 5 years ago, now I only got sore back for miles now. Currently weight around 95-100kg and 170cm tall, any chair recommendation i can find? (price maybe below $1000 sgd or below 725 usd as for sending this message)
I strongly recommend ordering a Leap v2 refurbished from this channel. My original approach was to buy a used chair on Craigslist, but since I found btod's supply I've changed my mind.
If you don't like the leap v2 then maybe the used market in your area would be the next best choice.
@@vdinh143 yes first i had expensive gaming chair for 500 then aeron which was to hard for me and gesture i got back pain but i bought leap v2 with headrest seems best...
in my case gaming chair suited me best, its recline and tilt mechanism takes off the load from spine completely
Give it a couple of years. It will become apparent that your back problems and jumbo shrimp posture are a result of the bucket-seat you've been sitting in. Mesh ergonomic chairs with headrests do everything a "gaming" chair can do, but better, without breaking and destroying your ergonomic health.
@@Mandonino I don't know man maybe you are right, but mesh chairs feels like they are pushing/pinching my back forward and make uncomforable to sit. also my gaming chair is not bucket, its seat and back are flat. could you name some mesh chairs which you think are good ? I will take a look.
Even Vergil's plastic chair much more comfortable than these "gaming" chair
Got myself a racing chair for Christmas 2020, it 10 months later with an office chair. Big wage of money on my part.
I've had my AKRacing chair for 4 years & the PU leather is completely finished.
The neck pillow doesn't help at all & I've been having a lot of issues with a stiff neck & I had some issues with back pain as well.
Plus the PU leather also doesn't feel great either in the hot & humid summer months either.
It was big waste of money, falling for the big hype. All because some of my favourite TH-camrs/Streamers are sitting in these crappy gaming chairs.
I'm going to get a proper office chair with a mesh design after the weekend, so I feel more comfortable in the summer months.
@@amrishpatel3501 I agree completely. My gaming chair became really uncomfortable after about 3 months. Total waste of money. I was at least able to give it to someone.
Any way you guys can review mavix? They’re a gaming chair company trying to make it more egonomic. Their m9 chair is 1000$ so would love a review from you guys!
That is the X chair rebranded into Mavix. We don't have immediate plans to review their gaming line -GK
The build quality isn't even as good as Secretcrap, however I do admire their mission to design something that doesn't look like a shitty racing seat.
The best gaming chair is an old lazy boy with a mini fridge beside it.
Bro. These are racing chairs, not gaming chairs.
Wake up people.
My son loves this chair.
Damn whish i watched this before i bought the red chair during black friday 🤣
Tokyo drifttt.... Lol when was that a racing game. Hahahaha
It's not an orthopaedic chair mate. For that purpose they yes are about as functional as the led bars dressing your monitor wall in the video. It's an aesthetic thing mate like most gaming room objects
I think a big point missed in this review is that the gaming chairs use Cold Cure Foam (at least in the Secretlab) or some similar alternative.
The big issue with this foam is that it starts out extremely firm, almost unforgiving, because by design it cannot lose its shape or the warranty will constantly require the company to replace parts. Despite this, I've found through experience that the foam can still become slightly damaged or rippeled under the fabric through extended use. You can feel little divots or tears that form in the material in time and can cause discomfort.
In a way, its the worst of both worlds, a chair that is overly firm but also slowly disintegrates compared to a mesh chair.
The other thing to consider with gaming chairs is that they are so large and so much material is used to construct the chair, that they cost a lot to manufacture. To keep costs down, corners are cut on quality of materials, or R&D.
The foam used is like a rock for sure -GK
How can someone sit in a gaming chair long enough for it to deteriorate? Shit is ridiculously uncomfortable and back destroying.
This is a great question..... -GK
@@alexworm1707 I found with my Secretlab, around the 18 month mark there was very slight inconsistencies in the foam (that wasn't there to start with) if you feel it through the fabric including a little circular divot around the T on the backrest. Didn't bother with the warranty - just moved on.
5’8” is average ?? Thank you for making me feel tall 😁
Is the t3 rush from corsair a good chair?
I bought a cheap GameStop chair after looking at expensive razer chairs and I was so happy I bought this cause my cat put holes everywhere in it lol anyone know any cat proof office chairs?
Gaming labelled items are all scams. The Fern Office Chair just kicks all these gaming chairs asses.
Love this video from you guys
Sweet! Thanks for watching -GK
honestly i had my 150 dollar (50% off) akracing chair for like 5 years, works great, i dont feel scammed lol
when will they make a garfield gaming chair
I already bought one
with the reclining thig... BY GUY THERE IS A LEVER FOR THAT REASON LOL
Was this in retaliation to techradar obnoxious article in favor of gaming chairs over ergonomic chairs?
I cant wait to get my embody comes in this week, glad to move away from the gaming chair... only got it cause was on sale.
I need to check that out lol.
@BTODtv My first time giving you guys a thumbs down. A SCAM means to deceive and defraud someone. What do the chair manufacturers do that would be considered fraud?
Not about the manufacturer, about the website reviews-GK
Are they bad because they are competitors?
Which €500 chair would be a better alternative to the Secretlab Titan Evo?
Start Here If Your Office Chair Budget is Under $500
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-GK
Since you didn't mention if It had to be brand new, how about any refurbished Aeron, Mirra 2, Gesture, Leap V2 or Amia?
Wish I saw this before buying a secret labs chair which has been trash so much tail bone pain for a 800 garbage so many people promoting its comfort for long gaming.
These seats are not uncomfortable if you weren't born with a silver spoon up your..... this seat reminds me of when I was homeless and used to sleep my $80,000 sports car. The feeling of this seat just reminds me of them good old days lol.
The most stupid thing is some companies make their chairs in the same manufacturing companies in China same material same shit and different prices
For half the price you can buy a superb office chair made for people who sit for a long Time
Thanks to this channel, and the sub-$300 chair video, I found out about and bought a Clatina Mellet. Couldn’t be happier.
Nice!! Keep us posted on longer term performance-GK
My mom bought me a gaming chair rc350 darkflash for my birthday its 7000 php thats 130 dollars U.S. converted and my back and butt starts to hurt after sitting in it for 2 3 hours :(
This is such a difficult topic for me because there are so many content creators that I like and I want the best for them but idk how to convince them that they're hurting their bodies with their choice of chair.
Well, the clever ones switched to better chairs a long time ago. Just look at Ninja and TimTheTatMan.
Your more concerned for complete strangers' backs? I mean how they personally feel doesn't really affect you. Also, most content creators are sponsored and are given better and more ergonomic gaming chairs, so you really don't need to give your concern for them.
I have had my Secret Labs 2022 titan evo xl for 3 weeks now. It’s currently disassembled and in the box ready to ship back. I returning it because of the low quality build and pain it causes after sitting in it for 4 to 6 hours a day. Really disappointed. Back into the Rabbit hole to replace my “gaming” chair.
Sorry! I know where to find some good info on chairs though ;) -GK
@@btodtv I’ve watched all your videos. I can afford an embody or gesture. But I’m afraid it will have similar issues. I feel like a $500 chair is tolerable when it has issues. And that sucks.
@@btodtv Btw, secret labs asked me for a video of my issues. It’s on my channel if you’re interested. I appreciate all you do in your reviews.
We will definitely take a look. Thanks for sharing -GK
It really depends: If you want a chair purely for work, don't buy a gaming chair. But I really need a chair for a couple hours typing. Couple hours playing games and then just watching a movie. An Office Chair does me no good because you can't kick back and just relax in it. Now of course you could use two chairs but that's double the money and space.
Why cant you kick back and relax in an office chair? -RB
@@btodtv That's like asking: Why can't a Ferrari be a good Family Van? Because the exact features that make it a great work chair keep it from being a great leisure chair. e.g. flexibility -> lack of stability/rigidness; upright body posture -> lack of lazy comfort; mesh design -> lack of coziness. Asynchronous tilt -> No complete reclining function. etc. etc.
Why does rigid equate to kicking back and relaxing? A lazy boy isn’t rigid. My couch isn’t rigid. There is this weird mentality out there that only a gaming chair can be used to kick back and relax in even though an gaming chair is literally modeled after a sports car seat. It’s is not meant to be comfortable. A sports car seat is terrible. It’s like sitting in a hard, non padded version of a normal car seat. That’s a gaming chair. I’d take an equally priced office chair at my home desk setup anyway day over the best gaming chair. -RB
better than my wooden chair bro ;)
I sit on a fishing chair 😂 my son has a gaming chair I can't stick it
I like how some ppl get so triggered when you trash gaming chairs by exposing the BS they are. If you want to mess up your back and flush money down the toilet, be my guest.
The video that all we chair enthusiasts have been waiting for...
:) -GK
This comment made me realize i'm a chair enthusiast, im such a NERD
@@riccardocattozzo2579 No shame in that. We should be proud coz at least we know how to properly take care of our backs 😉
"gaming" is scam in headsets too
Thanks for sharing -GK
Gaming insinuates nothing but design trends and RGB lights.
True. I'd say "gaming" mice are the one of the few products that can't be called a total scam though. Build quality ain't the best of course, but at the same time what non gaming mouse has as many buttons as an MMO mouse?
Saw this before I bought a cheapo chinese "gaming" chair. Thanks bro!