Upgrades for the ProverXL 4030
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ม.ค. 2021
- A new year and new upgrades to my Sainsmart 4030 cnc machine. I installed a new router motor, wasteboard and wasteboard support extrusion.
Carbide Compact Router - shop.carbide3d.com/collection...
Sweepy 2.0 Dust Boot - shop.carbide3d.com/collection...
65mm spindle motor bracket -www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
2080 Aluminum Extrusion - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07...
Aluminum Extrusion Connectors - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07... - แนวปฏิบัติและการใช้ชีวิต
I added the same Carbide Router. Works great. a side note, I connected the DC wires from the original motor to a DC relay that turns the 120v volt to an outlet that I mounted by the machine. This allows me to have on and off control that works from the program. Ran three programs with no problems. This motor is more robust than the original one and allows deeper cuts and higher feeds
Thanks, for all the specific info. 👍🏻
Wow, nice upgrades, would love to see more projects in the 4030 as very little content out there to see how it performs
I plan on doing a lot more now that I have a better router/spindle. The stock one was nice but just not high enough rpm.
Nice video! I hope to get my Proverxl 4030 soon and I plan on several of these upgrades. BTW, it looks like the link in the description for the connectors is the same as the extrusion.
The connector link takes me back to the Aluminum Extrusion page... Also, what length extrusion? 300mm or 400 mm I love the upgrades you did and will be adding those to mine as well. Thanks!
Do you think it'd be solid enough to mill aluminum with the extra center bracket you added, but without the spoil board installed? I need to mill some cast aluminum enclosures that are too tall for the PROVerXML, but if I could bolt them to the center bracket and they would fit. Just not sure if that setup would be stable enough...
Is that support down the center of the frame stock?
I have been struggling to find a dewalt also. Good to know there is an easy mount for others.
This mount seems to work really well. There are a few other aluminum ones I've seen on Amazon and online. I was trying to get someone to make a 3D printed one but everyone I looked at wanted $150 or more.
@@windsorwoodcraft I have a few trim routers on hand that I may could use with just a new mount.
Do you have details of the Dewalt or a link? (I've not bought a cnc yet, stilll just looking at options atm)
Also is it not possible to cut the new mount yourself?
Thanks for the videos btw!
The Harbor Freight brand Bauer mini router is the same as the Makita in all ways that matter. I bought it to use with something that was certified to work with the Makita, and everything matched perfectly. Only $70. It works perfectly with the router mount that comes with the 4030
Great video as always! Just wondering is the 65mm mount goes directly to the Z axis screw holes? I am also considering purchasing it for the Makita router which also has a 65mm diamter housing
The 65mm mount will fasten into the t nut slots on the face of the Z axis extrusion. There are a couple different mounting position holes on the 65mm mount.
I like the acrylic dust baffles! Did you make them? I just did the DeWalt upgrade, and it's a beast compared to the stock spindle motor. I'm sure you'll be equally or more impressed with the Carbide router. That extra RPM range will make a big difference. I kinda wish I'd have gone that rout, instead of the DeWalt. Maybe once it burns up on me, I'll swap over to what you have. Thanks or sharing!
I did make the dust baffles myself. I clamped a piece of acrylic between two pieces of wood/metal and heated with a heat propane torch. Can also use a heat gun. The extra rpm range of the Carbide router is nice along with the extra long power cord, but other than that, the they are very similar. Can't go wrong with either one.
Is Vcarve pro v10.5 compatible with PROVerXL 4030 CNC machine from Sainsmart Genmitsu, if so what post processor did you use.
Great job. Just received mine....still in the box. What is the length of the 2080 you ordered? Did it require cutting? Thanks.....
Thanks! The 2080 for the center support was 600mm and I have to cut it down to fit. I think I could've used a 500mm one but when I ordered it, I couldn't find a 500 in stock.
Please let us know how the 4030 preforms does with the upgraded router.
Will do. I have used it once to make a small wavy flag sign. Plan on testing it out with more aluminum cutting next.
Quick question, where did you get the acrylic dust baffles for the sides? Looking into gettign this machine so gathering info/parts. Thanks!
I bought the acrylic from Lowe's and bent it using a propane torch.
@@windsorwoodcraft good to know! Thank you very much!!!
How is the machine holding up and what are your thoughts after the past few months of use? I'm shopping ...
The machine is holding up really well. Very well built and capable for a wide variety of materials.
didnt it come with a aluminum conversion bracket for a 65mm router?
The 4030 comes with an extra 69mm bracket for the Dewalt router.
Specs are the exact same as the Makita router.... 65mm instead of the 69mm Dewalt.
Hello. I am thinking about buying this machine and i was wondering if you know or if you tried, what is the thickest piece of wood you can cut with a straight router bit. I hope you can give me some light about the matter. Thank you! (Ps. I want to cut wood about 50 to 60 millimeters, and what kind of bit should I use!) :) Hope to hear your opinion!
I have cut 50mm thick cherry hardwood with thus machine. I used a 1/4" endmill with 2 flutes. Just have to take it slow with the feed rate and shallow depths of cut.
Hi, could you share the cutting precision of the machine, as with mine i am in a real trouble, after fixing the mechanical backlashes, it is cutting about 1mm larger! , When jogging it without any load, the traveled distance is precise, with load is smaller, i suspect some firmware compensation which is not active when jogging.
I have done several test cuts and the accuracy is usually within 0.001. But the accuracy could also be affected by how fast and deep you are trying to cut and what material you are cutting. If you try to go to fast, your machine could be skipping steps or jumping off the toolpath. I also have not had any issues with backlash since I have been using it. There is a notice on the ProverXL 4030 section of the Sainsmart website that states you should not update the firmware as it could make the control board operate incorrectly. I have not updated the firmware on my machine so I don't know how that could affect the accuracy.
@@windsorwoodcraft Thanks a lot for you reply, this is quite a crucial information for me. I did got one quite early, so this might explain the mechanical issues i have seen. I have a good knowledge of electronics/mechanics, until know i was just doing test cuts in wood, and not even getting close to the limits of the machine. Any sort of backlash or mechanical flex woudl eventually translate in negative errors, but i was seeing positive ones, about 1mm larger pieces cut out :) Updating the firmware is off course never recommended, it is very intrusive and many things can (and will) go wrong, but with my background i took the leep :) Anyway i couldn't really use the machine with this strange positive offset, curious where the path will lead, either to a bricked controller or to a usable, precise machine :)
@@laszlofabian Have you looked at the bit while the machine is turned on to check if the bit is spinning straight? I did have a problem with the motor in my machine that was the result of the motor bearings going bad. This caused the machine to make a cut that was 0.0625 inches larger than intended.
@@windsorwoodcraft That was the first thing i checked, i measured the run out, measured the cut out piece size and the cut out hole size and recalculated the cutting width, they are correct, 1/8 size
Is the original router suitable for 3mm aluminium. looking at buying one. thanks
The original one van cut aluminum. Just have to take it kinda slow and shallow cuts.
Can you make a video on how you did the plastic covers?? Diminutions and all that stuff. I just got the 4030.
I can do that. The way I did it was pretty simple with just a torch and a couple pieces of plywood, but I also want to make an acrylic bending jig that use a heating element and power supply. I'll try to show both methods in the video.
@@windsorwoodcraft I bought one of these just before christams and watched your video and you can buy the plastic already bent to the 90 degrees, they are used for protecting corners and i got it 75mm by 75mm and it fits perfect and it was about £20 for the 2 delivered and i got them from ebay but i guess amazon will also have them. Many thanks for the videos and my next upgrade is also the support down the middle thanks for sharing.
@@stevenkirk3932 Thanks for the info. How wide are the bends? I had looked for them online before I decided to make my own, but could only find ones about an inch wide on each side of the bend. I ended up buying a 2'×4' sheet of acrylic at a local store for about $15, so I should be able to make a few sets out of the sheet.
@@windsorwoodcraft Thanks for that, i heard you say that in your video and i had a look on ebay for the flat and noticed the angled its 75mm by 75mm which is 3 inch by 3 inch fits perfect, i got it with no holes otherwise they would have drilled both the angles but 3 holes in each and i put it behind the dust baffles to give it that little extra, it just falls short of the blue upright on the grantee.
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324237780389
@@windsorwoodcraft that link is for a 50mm one but they do 75mm
how did u attatch the spindel 2 the electrick net or u yust pud it in a 220v outlet ?
The router that I am using is 110v. It is not directly connected to the cnc machine.
OK thx for the reply eum dus the probe function still work like this i have the router etc in stock planning upgrading belgium is 230 v ;)
great vid, where did you get the clear dust baffels on the sides?
I made the baffles from 1/8" thick acrylic
@@windsorwoodcraft they look great, good idea
@@windsorwoodcraft how did you make it with a 90degree corner in it?
@@LVA_DESIGN_LAMPS I clamped the acrylic between two pieces of wood and used a heat gun to soften and bend it.
@@windsorwoodcraft what are the dimensions of this piece? Can you send them please so i can order it
Sorry didn’t wait long enough in the video
Do not by this heap crap . Damaged part which was fitted a factory and then sent out to my self
Does the Sweepy fit the standard 4030 spindle?
No, the sweepy is a 65mm diameter. I think the standard spindle is 52mm.