"Consciousness is Immortal.“ | An In-Depth Interview with Tom Campbell
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- Tom Campbell is a former NASA physicist and large systems analyst turned consciousness researcher.
Next to his technology-centric career, he joined the team of volunteering research subjects around Robert Munroe, where they volitionally induced and systematically investigated phenomena of paranormal nature like e.g. out-of-body experiences, remote viewing, telepathy to name the most prominent.
In his trilogy "My Big TOE" (TOE: Theory of Everything) he describes the nature of our larger reality, provides a complete theory of consciousness, and explains our purpose and connection to that larger reality. Along the way, Mr. Campbell derives a more fundamental science that directly answers the most pressing problems and paradoxes of modern physics.
Contents:
00:00:20 If you had to put your big theory into a nutshell - what does it say?
00:04:46 Entropy is devolving from order to disorder - can we put it like that?
00:09:30 Ideas and theories of this reality are a simulation - are you ok with that?
00:13:08 Some scientists reject your point of view - would you say that their view is entirely wrong or incomplete?
00:23:55 David Bohm and his theory of the implicate order - what is your opinion?
00:30:46 What do you think about the idea that there is a cyclical universe and infinite number of big bangs?
00:43:40 You are addressing some of the weaknesses of the original Double-Slit Experiment …
00:57:21 A theory of consciousness
00:58:25 The phenomena of remote viewing used by the CIA?
00:59:27 The database and what is sometimes called the akasha record in spiritual philosophies?
01:04:02 Why would the system make this information available to a medium if one of the tenets of your theory holds that the agent should never be able to tell that it is a virtual reality?
01:09:02 Would the individual units of consciousness be sort of a holographic replica of a large consciousness system?
01:10:30 Is our world in which we live currently but one of many virtual realities?
01:17:30 You are referring to what is sometimes called “Qualia” …
01:19:59 According to what you are saying, the outcome should never be predictable depending on who is doing or watching the experiment?
01:23:20 We cling to the idea that something of us should last - would that make sense within your theory?
01:35:04 Do you think that our individuated unit of consciousness may indeed persist potentially and definitely eternally?
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Interview: Werner Nieke
Editorial contribution: Heike Funke
Editor: Werner Huemer
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I thoroughly recommend Tom's 'My Big TOE' trilogy, which Tom even reads himself as an audiobook. An outstanding piece of writing that is truly light years ahead.
I will read it , thanks
Do you have more sugestions ?
This trilogy is brilliant and I continue to reread it, finding it even more outstanding the more I read it. The clarity and practicality are paradigm shifting and light years ahead.
@@marcosbatista1029 Check also Donald Hoffman podcasts or the book "a case against reality".
Thanks
AMAZING! ❤THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH! ❤
EVERYONE READING THIS,BE BLESSED!🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Blessings back to you too.
No god exists, only players, computers and data centers
Greatest eye opener.I am just ordinary house wife but thank you for Enlightening me regarding true nature of consciousness.I just experience loss of my only child and I am desperately seeking for meaning of our existence.Mother.
În all what matters you are a loving soul. And a beautiful one...Be blessed with PEACE and LOVE!
My motivation the same as yourself. Remember to eat. Be prepared for 'Anima' to show in subtle ways. Symbolism. Digital tech picks up communication and can capture perceived presence. God Bless. As a softer sideline Helping Parents Heal helps me. On line. Gaias Mum. Forever 19. Shining light children. ( Carl Jung also, Dr.Iain McGilChrist ; " The M atter With Things"). Thoughts and prayers are with you. 💙🩵🙏
You’re not ordinary … , You’re unique and special.
Sending you much love and healing ❤🩹
So sorry for your loss. My only child passed 5 months ago. I am more interested in our existence since his passing. 💜
Profound and extremely enlightening. These realizations about the true nature of consciousness and that matter does not create Consciousness but in fact the reverse, change everything about human life and society, individually and collectively.
We can.
If we would all come together in the truth that is, one consciousness.
@@awakenedwarrior952 "Fear is greater than love" -- 2Pac
I can not explain why but every time i search 4 answers in my mind i go to youtube and find them, like i subbed few days ago on this channel watching NDE videos...now i find this and it answers many questions i had in my mind.
I think that ultimate consciousness is God not religious one but real creator.
I also had NDE and i saw white light , no judgment no hell ,just pure love and love is energy.
Peace and love to all mankind!
Show's that reality is there with you, one step ahead of you, that happened to me years ago, had a burning question, went to the book store would pickup a book open it and the answer was there, it's amazing. Your nde must have been awesome, I too have felt something from the other side a love out of this world, no nde though.
Have you discovered Anthony Chene’s YT channel on NDE? 👌🏼
Exactly the same brother , the experience and experiencer is one and the same
We attract the things we are looking for. This is how we are co-creators in this divine dream.
It's called synchronisation of what your subconscious desire is.
:As above ' so below
Your thoughts attracted this at the right time for your questions to be answered. This is not a theory. It's ones own understanding gained by the guy asking deeply within his own subconscious'
to the connected consciousness. Its a real abundance of knowledge that is available to everyone willing to face there inner demons. One must face one's own fears / limitations from within. ' full acceptance of the self..
Believe in your own capability to achieve any of your dreams and you will create the room in your life for your dreams to literally just start to appear. where you have been expecting it to. At just the right time..
How does this not have more likes?? This guy is speaking facts like no one else
We live in junk-food, consumerism society... somebody slips on a banana peel, 1+ million likes.
Nobody, has time for real substance.
And he has a great face.
Check also Donald Hoffman. He says similar things but with more precision I would say.
How is there substance to anything said here? When anyone points out the contradictions in his theory he always goes into "truth is subjective" mode. This is substantial?
I've read his books. I've brought up legitimate concerns. I was kicked out of several of his Facebook groups by his supporters when i pointed out their illogic. All while being completely respectful, i will add.
Curious to know how Thomas Campbell's big TOE would do after a 5MeO-DMT (God molecule) experience.
I have experienced an OBE and his thoughts, as I understand them (not being a mathematician or physicist), agrees with my experience. My ‘conscience’ self separated from my body and I remember thinking ‘oh, THIS is who I am’ as I looked down at my body.
Same. I followed Robert Monroe's methods.
This is the most coherent analysis I ever heart of what we really are. Impressive thinking.
I've been listening to Tom for many years and if you want to know about the nature of reality he is the man to listen to
But he’s wrong. Total nut bar.
Nothing beats life experience :-) many years too, sometimes I see a new video and drop in, see if I can help out
Ah we have a belief trap "disbelief" moment with the view of John. Well John, if it doesn't work for you that is fine, but it does not mean you are all knowing; and thus you are not able to say our experiences are wrong. My experiences and my deep thought and logical process of imagining all the possible answers completely verify the MBT model, it is far more elegant than I ever imagined a TOE would be, as a science fan in school I was just regurgitating what I was told, and taking it as fact. Like NEWTON and "LAWS" which.. turned out to be changed.. and so on. Fixating on old ideas is a sure fire way to take a step backwards instead of forwards, and not have a happy existence ! for example name calling out of that trigger the ego is so easily attached to. The fear of not knowing something is fundamentally terrifying, we are the makers of our personal information structure, as we live this life. And more lives give a rich perspective on things, seeing any of your own bad or good choices from the point of view of those affected is where we do eventually make some of our major steps becoming a better person.
You are not privy to any of our personal verification and knowledge of reality. If you were experiencing your own personal experiments, it would not be our reality ? only YOU were there noone else can label your opinion a "nut bar" now can they. If you perceived some weird experience in life that made no sense and years later under new circumstances it turned out to be valuable to you and give you a great feeling of comfort and happiness, if your struggles became just the day to day background noise you now ignored and perhaps your pain was also lessened.. would you go and ask for a straightjacket ? or would you tell someone you care about how you had this profound realization and sound like a waffling idiot trying to share your experience that is foreign to their reality ? this happens, people who don't pay attention and have critical thinking skills just have the simple ego attachment all the time with reactions like "youre stupid", "noone cares", "that doesn't mean anything" and so on.. it is a simple reaction to how you FEEL.. we often have this need to label things, so its very easy to just label something as definitely wrong.
Did they say weird science god is a total nut bar and wrong, and this is just a hoax, we are all on drugs, something in the water ? no because they were grown ups, very smart, and curious ! they found a way to create experiments that would reveal more to think about, and then it didn't answer anything and was backwards, impossible to reconcile.. this is all fact.. or unless history is a complete lie as well 😁
Expecting us to be you ? basically ~99% of everyone who makes an effort to think and not have a predefined set of facts.. they find massive value here over some 10 years of content.. all given freely and with joy by Tom.. and so many of our vastly better lives are direct proof of not believing things, being open minded skeptic as Tom says ! ever since my year or so of really putting in the effort, thinking and listening and relistening I have been much happier for years and taking life as it comes ! not wasting interactions or neglecting my past experiences, all of them have value and lessons especially now as I have had a strange two part life.. i was very self absorbed and focused on my gaming, all of the experience I had that I class as profound are very fitting, self immersing yourself in a 3D world of combat with only a flat screen and blocky pixels and brown and grey foreign world with weird movement of the avatar.. well it turns out the act of focusing is everything. Some experiences were like hacking reality for short bursts, which gamers call "in the zone".. we stop perceiving the room we are in or even that we are pressing keys and moving our mouse. The data we focus on with intense focus creates an immersion that is fleeting, seems to come out of nowhere, but I would say is INDISTINGUISHABLE from reality here, in a dream, or any sort of VR headset thing where you really do feel "presence" of teleportiing away from this weird reality when you take the thing off.
Stating facts and being real about something makes a person a nut ? feel free to live in a limited existence, hope you find your way this lifetime is about to get very exciting. 2021 is "a very lucky year" as we enter the real information age, the 4th industrial era. Year of the (Metal) 0x, when we begin to enter "API world" and hyperconnected global potential. What we do with it matters.. positive feedback cycles not negative ones, telling others how they should act and spreading hate on social media is the one thing I really hope is gone ASAP. So many problems are OUR OWN and that's why life has been too.. easy in a way since I was able to apply my own logic and see a.. peaceful happy existence where I look at everything as a puzzle, sometimes even helping someone..
And sometimes wall of text they won't even read. If you got this far, even if you are thinking SHUT UP IDIOT.. I am proud..
*everyone is just doing the best they can with what they have* - Tom Campbell
@@1960taylor you need a mirror
@@1960taylor prove it
Thank you so much finally a physicist who states the obvious there’s nothing illogical about quantum physics all you have to do is look at the patterns in the world and experience energy .it all makes perfect sense to me🌈🙏🏼💜
he makes many Amazing points with which I agree 100%. I also agree that when a particular avatar/humans body dies , their consciousness goes on as the larger soul . however I would like to clarify the point that if a medium wants to reach the particular avatar part of a soul after that avatar has transcended then I think in fact they are able to do that .so If I leave the body that is currently playing the role of Carla and go back into the consciousness that is my larger soul if a medium wants to talk to the part of me that played the role of Carla that’s absolutely possible.
I've found that most of the greatest discoverers and creators throughout history have the same general belief. In older times they would indicate this to those who were capable of understanding without "inquisiting" by having their portraits done showing their fingers crossed. Later they would say things like, Imagination is more important than knowledge and The most important question we can ask is do we believe the Universe is friendly. Planck said it's not logical to view the structure of the Universe and believe that it doesn't have an intelligent designer. Many famous people are often accused incorrectly as being materialist. I think for many this error of perception is what allowed them to become famous. Many could have easily fallen victim to inquisitive minds. 🤗
Mind...BLOWN!Bar none, the best interview I’ve heard on the topic of consciousness
Right??? Too much knowledge being dropped here..true classic!
_"best interview I’ve heard on the topic of consciousness"_
*As compared to **_what_** exactly?*
Perhaps would be more precise to say 'best interview that consciousness ever heard about itself'
What a great interview. It was like poetry in motion.
This makes sense. Ancient African creation stories talk about the process of subtraction that gives us our reality.
...yes, I can see that. Our cognitive reality being an interfacial subtractive selection that's derived (data streamed) from and within consciousness's informational field of awareness. A species specific reality formulated (specialized/evolved) to insure our survival as finite individuated experiential signatures.
Amazing! Thank you.
I just listened 7min and I am blown away by this incredible view over reality and our role in this reality. I LOVE IT !!!
Thank you so much for this interview. I thought that Werner did a great job asking very thoughtful and challenging questions, as well as slowing Mr. Campbell down a bit for people, like me, who aren't familiar with the vocabulary of physics. This was really fascinating.
Thank you for noticing my efforts of keeping it "digestible" for lay people, @cjelvado, I appreciate your kind comment!
I like listening to Tom Roberts, he makes sense - a lot more sense than many other physicists. Thank you for the interview, it was most informative and enjoyable.
Did you mean Tom Campbell?
Tom Roberts makes a lot more sense i agree.
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This talk is so loaded I will listen to this at least a few times if not more Thanks.
The most interesting information on reality I've come across. You can always rely on Tom to think deeply and explain to the masses in layman terms. Thanks to all involved
A very intelligent man. Amazing how his theory ties in with the many testimonies of those who experienced NDEs.
“Consciousness is always trying to lower it’s entropy”...T. Campbell
“Spirit is always moving towards true perception”...A Course in Miracles
First let me say that I agree with you. I began meditation in 1979 and I had an amazing remote viewing experience in 1980, it was when I was sleeping, at the time I thought more in terms of 'out of body experience' I felt as though I were flying ; it was vivid , I saw a passenger plane flying over what seemed, that is I felt was a middle European landscape; there was also a small private plane not far away; I watched as a weapon like a rocket launcher appeared it shot down the passenger plane. I sat up in bed and thought about how vivid and unbroken in continuity it was . Dreams are always skipping about. In the morning while I poured my coffee there was a story with news footage of a plane crash in Europe , it was that exact landscape. I don't recall the country now. The cause of the crash was undetermined ; and I didn't feel the need to share that incident as I could imagine the response. Many other things in my life lead me to concur with you, But in the end the answer to " where did conscious evil from, why did it How did it? Personally I don't dwell on any of those things; I dwell in the current, I surf the ebb and flow of conscious, Love is like catching a wave and hate is a wipeout.
¨Consciousness is awareness with choices¨. Beautifull insight!
I am seeing this interview for the first time on this date June 2024 and I feel so left behind because it was recorded three years ago. But no time like the present to be blown away. So happy to have found this work Thank you for holding this space ❤
That made so much sense to me
IMO, and after countless hours of my own theoretical speculations, Tom just NAILS it...without question, this explains the natural order that is the web of consciousness. There are so so many questions that I have had forever that this theory sheds powerful light on. BRILLIANT!!
Have you read Neville Goddard?
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This guy is truly on the edge of science, so far beyond accepted science.
*I bet you **_also_** admire Fauci.*
@@alfresco8607 I bet yer Republican too 😂
Great interview, so interesting. However; my intuition keeps insisting that: as soon as you conceptualise consciousness, you limit it... or your understanding of it. It’s infinitely more complex yet more simple than we could even begin to comprehend with our earthly minds and scientific experiments.
That said, this man’s theories really resonate and make a lot of sense. His interview demonstrates how scientific studies can certainly ‘point to’ how it all works’ ...but can never know it in its entirety, or even come close.
I say this because there’s a sense that as soon as we observe or understand how it works, it’s evolves further - so it’s like a precursor that we can never catch up with (nor are we meant to).
Basically, we can never say - “I’ve found the ultimate answer” because there isn’t one! But still... our ego, our awe and wonderment will want to create THE answer so it will continues to take us on this journey... just as it’s meant to I suspect.
Beautiful really, isn’t it. Who wants to wake up knowing everything... devoid of awe, excitement and a sense of expansiveness beyond ourselves.
This has always been my feeling... for what it’s worth!
I think you’ve just explained the split atom theory of quantum physics. Nicely stated.
@@StrawberrySoul77 Thanks LS. It was just intuitive; Physics is not my field so I’m not aware of the split atom theory... but I do understand everything Thomas has explained here.
I’m curious now... I will look it up. Thanks again.
@Light Dweller, "Who wants to wake up knowing everything... devoid of awe, excitement and a sense of expansiveness beyond ourselves." Exactly! You nailed it for me in your comment! We aspire to knowing it all, but "god" forbid we ever get there.... that would totally kill the thrill, wouldn't it? I think, Einstein said something to a similar effect. He also said science without religion would be lame, religion without science blind, something like that. But I like your nutshell version of it even better!
We are limited because being unlimited was limiting. It's as if you're the game developer and you give yourself infinite health, money, power, etc. You won't experience the game as it was intended to, if you can hop levels without effort. That's why it can be mind wobbling to try and grasp your mind around consciousness; deep inside you feel the true nature, but no human will ever be able to put it down in words or formulas.
Very well said, I was just using the double slit experiment to explain the same concept. Also, nice to hear that some still rely on intuition as well as other things to come to a logical conclusion.
Beautiful talk. Reminds of another individual who taught of the primacy of conscious in my search for a TOE. Although not a scientist but a Mystic Joel S.Goldsmith came to quite similar conclusions about actual and virtual reality.
Have you read Neville Goddard?
Every word he says is true! This video is so important, it helps people wake up to the real nature of "reality". Deep thanks!🙏
Have you read Neville Goddard?
_"Every word he says is true!"_
*Not a single thing he says is verifiable.*
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@@alfresco8607 what's your epistemic criterion for determining what's true/verified?
@@thedarkmikebass8530Our understanding is limited by our experience.
Love it, love that learning how to love - deeply inside - not as an instruction manual but (again) deeply inside is the way.
Thanks a lot.
When we were at the cemetery before we buried my mom her car alarm went off. Never did that before or after. We all kind of smiled.
What was she saying? I am alive? 🙂
And sceptics say there's no proof
of Life After Death. ! ? !
you think a car alarm is proof of life after death... yikes. friggin wowzers.
First one to comment but I do absolutely believe 100% that Consciousness continues on without a doubt
Yes I agree Jason. It does seem we are more than these bodies. What we are is the big question. What everything is beyond the body is another question. Its fascinating.
Of course it does
@@jm7720 beyond the body we are all the same timeless awareness. The great Indian sage Nisargadatta said, “You are not even a human being. You just are. A point of awareness coextensive with time and space and beyond both. The ultimate cause itself uncaused”
But right now by virtue of the fact we have a human body and a human brain we temporarily identify as human beings. And the ego creates the illusion of separation. But in reality there are no others because essentially underneath all our individual conditioned minds we are the same impersonal timeless consciousness. This life is just a dream within consciousness that’s all. In reality there is no death. All eastern spirituality emphasises this illusory dreamlike nature of this reality. Nothing real ever dies
I am from Germany and only a few people know about him and his theory.... What a pity.. I am doing my best to spread his words out here 🙏
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How does it matter if you're from Germany or India?
I LITERALLY WOKE UP DURING AN NDE. LIFE APPEARED TO BE NO MORE THAN AN EASILY FORGOTTEN [DIV IODED] DREAM -
WE ARE ALL EQUAL, DIVIDED BY THE 'TIME' OF DREAMS. THE BIG QUESTION IS WHY WE SLEEP OR DREAM, AS NOTHING HERE IS MINUTELY COMPARABLE TO OUR TRUE UNDIVIDED REALITY.
It might be because it is actually comparable. It may also be that there is not yet anything here minutely comparable or many other possibilities. It might be something no one has even thought of but it's certainly interesting that no two people seem to completely agree and opinions vary extremely widely. 🤔 🙏
I was with him up to the one hour point, whereupon he revealed that he has no soul. If NDE'ers can interact in two way communication with the "dead", then that kind of negates what he claims about it just being information from some vault. No, I believe it is true communication. There were real exchanges between spirit beings who asked if people wanted to return to Earth, or not. Maybe I am misunderstanding him. At least I finally get what the double slit experiment was about.
If I may humbly suggest to read Mr. Campbell's reference to "the player" as such, i.e. a soul, if that is what you're looking for. I don't mean to put words into his mouth that he didn't speak, but in my understanding, one _could_ interpret the "player" (vs. the "agent") as that. Just an idea.
I believe that Tom puts forward the idea that consciousness is fundamental. And is broken down into Individuated Units of Consciousness. Perhaps this equates to the idea of 'soul'.
@@AaaaaBeeee Carol Bowman used the term "signature" in our interview on this playlist here, which I like a lot, because it is free from all connotations as associated by world religions and spiritual traditions of any kind. And I think I agree on your reading of Mr. Campbell's wording "individuated units of consciousness" in that it can be taken as an equivalent of "soul". I think I understand, though, that with his scientific background, Mr. Campbell tries to avoid being lumped in with any particular spiritual tradition and largely keeps employing science verbiage (which I appreciate as science at least make a decisive attempt to word things as precisely as possible on grounds of given knowledge at any particular time).
I'm currently reading "The Application of Impossible Things" by Natalie Sudman, who gives an account of her service as a civilian supervisor helping in rebuilding Iraq after the second war there and gets blown up by a road side bomb followed by one of the most impressive NDEs I have come across to date. Her fairly short book expands one's understanding of concepts as conveyed by NDEs a great deal and introduces aspects I haven't heard of or read about anywhere else prior. Without meaning to spoil, I think those concepts point in a direction where we'd be best advised to simply ditch all previous wording we had with regard to who and what we are as "spirits" in a human "meat coat" and all the concepts ever discussed in human history. That book of hers is an epic eye opener and introduces realms of consciousness at least I had been unaware of before (and I've digested TONS of such material, including what I believe to have been a near death like experience of my own at around age 4).
Yes technically communication can be multidimensional , so it can be real , information have no physical restrains .
Listen to the book ' seth speaks' on TH-cam ...excellent book.
Excellent! I low-entropy everything about this!
When a large event occurs, more televisions are in use, more phone calls are made. More texts, more web surfing. Isn’t a more likely hypothesis that the increased use of electronics impacts the RNG?
what's RNG?
@@babygorl9541
Random number generator.
A way of creating pseudo-randomness or "fit for purpose randomness but not actually truly random".
They take inputs from a complex set of constantly changing sources and use a mathematical equation to generate pseudorandom numbers from them.
I suggest people read "The Kybalion". It coincides with what Thomas Campbell's viewpoints.
Thanks Tom. You have given me a reassuring explanation for the phenonema of my observations of when I use acupuncture. The TCM approach to therapy produces change in the symptoms, signs and impaired function of what is labelled as disease in medical phenonema.
Excellent interview and connects between consciousness and reality. In a different take if you study Indian vedic literature with different hats (philosophy, science, logic, nature, karma, etc....) that is what the corpus of vedic literature is actually telling you in clear terms--and even better it groups humans into 4 major buckets of manav avatars (RPG roles) the scientific bent ones (like Tom Campbell), the artistic types, the real-world doer types (who understand things after action of doing and feeling), or those who are not scientific, artistic or action oriented, can have their own way of understanding and role playing of the game.
May i ask what's rhe vedic terms for these 4 types of avatars?
AND i didn't exactly inderstand rhe 4th one, could you clarify this one a little more perhaps?
Didn’t know you made this one! Rocks and thank you 🙏🏻🌸
Very interesting, unfortunately while we are here on earth this virtual reality feels very real especially when someone passes suddenly and you find you can’t create or change your virtual reality to get him back... it is what is, real to us while we are are here like a dream may seem real while we dream .... it’s just that it may be a bit longer to wake up from this dream/virtual reality or whatever it is
It is called Maya in India.
Read the Bhāgwad Gita.
Will occupy your mind till you die.
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@Ching Vang psychedelics help. Its temporary but it works.
The biggest thing that's stopped me for a long time with respect to believing in free will, aside from the sense that things need sufficient causation or that any choice at a given time seems only virtual (ie. I live the decision process but have no reason to believe that it wouldn't play out precisely like that 100x, 1000x, 1000000x, etc.) is that there didn't seem to be any teleological rule that the system needs to not know the outcome. that actually raises a paradox, if a conscious being is all that exists and is omniscient to that system - is it possible, no matter how complex that system is or how 'on the cheap' evolution occurs (generator functions rather than schematics), that it would not be able to track the complexity of that system and wouldn't all outcomes be known a head of time regardless of how data rich the system is - or is this just my 'omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent' Catholic catechism showing up in unexpected ways?
Maybe IT knows, but the temporarily limited perspectives known as humans do not.
Awareness from a human perspective appears to be in a process of unfolding. Becoming more aware.
So the Creator experiences creation from many perspectives.
Maybe 🤔
Time travel blows me away, I can’t seem to get it.
I have listened to 100's of near death experience interviews. One of the the things people have mentioned was being told or shown the death of a loved one in the future. One woman was told her son would die at 16, another was told her mother would die in 10 years, a man was shown the death of a family in his city in a car accident. All three things happened. I don't really know what it all means but it looks like everything is already known and time will unfold a specific way even if we feel we a free to choose what happens.
This video just completely blew my mind!!! Love Tom Campbell he just uses logic to explain everything!
Made a good point. What happens when a materialist dies. Are these what we call "Ghosts, Spirits, Demons, Satan..." How could they know their dead, kind of. The body is dead but your consciousness continues on. The after life is NOT going to make sense. Because to them, it don't exist. I think they figure it out after awhile and move one. Good Stuff Thanatos TV EN
I think, I have done this before.
YES, Consciousness, or more correctly AWARENESS, is The LIGHT of MAN which is The LIFE of GOD !
@@johnb8854 Amen! Now, who's hungry?
God said let their be light. We are that light.
The He'll E-Lite, one rather seeKEEN, i am the words, and all words is that weighs??? NOthing perSONall inwords, ain't i Kryst!!!! Hypnotic lol
so enjoyed this! thank you. i personally prefer to call free will, self will, as i think that's a more accurate descriptor
thats literally what i was saying the other day and that love is the act of living.
All is consciousness, breathe is the spark, the soul is the light! We are beings of love, made to create and help each other. Materialism is consumer therapy and image management. We are trading truth, for convenience!!!
We all went into this world to experience life. Not for any other special meaning. The point to all of this is simply to just experience it. Our consciousness wanted to experience this world, and the body is literally the vehicle that allows us to do so. Once the body dies, consciousness returns to the realm or space where all consciousness lives. This is what I believe anyways. I have had alot of out of body experiences, and after learning about other peoples near death experiences, I have come to the conclusion that our consciousness transcends this reality we currently live in.
That consciousness is primary is also the fundamental message from 'Seth' who spoke through Jane Roberts and dictated a series of books through her - available on Amazon. All is consciousness. Though that needs explanation which 'Seth' gives!
Have you read Neville Goddard?
The Architect from the Matrix has returned, with longer beard & nice glasses....but can he be trusted or are his words another form of control?
Control how?
His words are just that... words. They may hold some truth, they may hold some misunderstandings. Observe, then go search for yourself
@@alwaysright237 it was a joke, referencing the movie.
@Damo true ignorance is true bliss my friend. Chew on!
@@ianwparedes hahaha there is one video that is so perfect and someone commented that.. and I had never even made the connection
It was a total rooftop vs Agent "WHOA" moment
I have believed we are just pieces on a monopoly board since I was a child. I guess I always felt like I was being played. But as I have grown I realised I could cause effects by making choices based on love and intention. The intention is to make it lovely and if it appears not to be I get creative with my interpretation. Tom's Big TOE fits my reality completely. I love influencing other people's reality frames by data dumping, with love of course ! Giving people a larger consciousness base by messing with their meaning-making is fun. I love being consciousness as an artist and pulling back so I see all reality as a huge mandala wherein each pixel creates it's own meaning as colour and shape, but from my vantage point as consciousness it is just a multi coloured tapestry that I get to enjoy and play with, like a child playing with a kaleidoscope.
The double slit experiment, opposed to what he says, was not the beginning of quantum mechanics. Quantum mechanics started with Max Planck and his quantized formulation of the thermodynamic radiation of black bodies introducing the planck constant h.
It was the beginning of studying the new backwards results.. and led there so.. is that not the beginning.. does it really matter
But that actually is good to have read now finally, so thanks !! it was something I never got around to knowing/memorizing as you do in school.. had wondered how would you come up with Planck units without probing and measuring the extremely small, didn't matter to me etc~ now it dawned on me of course the mathematical derivation of those discrete smallest energy packets, quanta.. the quantum leap of electron shells or whatever we called them back in school.. lol always made me go eh? thats just okay now is it science nothing weird there ?? we had the solid nucleus and single electron diagram in the old books hahaha.. the whole thing made me the kid teachers got angry at especially when I started arguing about Pluto way back then😉don't remember what I had come across but something told me it was.. well what we know now is just hilarious
The equilibrium/balance in reality is far more than we have understood yet.. it seems Einstein had a lot more than general relativity, everything is relative in other ways ? there is always dichotomy deep down somewhere, maybe I am wrong but something about how things actually are is so deceptively simple it sticks out.. the words to explain it escape me but it is not important to me of course. Funny how things turn out, my own bad choices and not finishing first year at uni led me into a whole different world.. more mistakes followed and some things I could have regretted so much have been more and more invaluable lately ! make the most of it all etc.. very nice having this.. perspective and what I think is a very very unique life experience set.. might have to mark this one down as an outlier where I got lucky not to completely go off the rails into an antisocial unhappy fearful mess.. I hope we all appreciate life more lately, and find our way soon. Too much negativity out there.. stay in school kids.. challenge yourselves !
This was a great interview. Easy to understand in layman terms. (With help of Quantum Mechanics is a plus) This is one I will be sending/forwarding to others who are awakening to help them understand. 💗 to all.
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i made a tom cambell song th-cam.com/video/6g2GjIvTybo/w-d-xo.html
I'm glad you're part of our lives... even if only virtually.
This is great. First time I heard of Mr. Campbell, will definitely be looking into more of his work. I do have a comment and would love feedback: I too don't think IUoC (you and me) can never really be 'kicked out' of the system especially if you accept that each IUoC was created from Perfection/Source/Consciousness/God. We must have a spark of that perfection in each of us as 'potential' and therefore eventually we will succeed. Many Eastern religions speak of either getting put back into the cycle of reincarnation or the ultimate goal of being absorbed back into the Source. It makes sense to me that each of us has the 'potential' to become Perfection in this human condition. Though this is more of an Eastern thought, maybe Jesus's story is one of how he reached Perfection on earth. Jesus didn't reincarnate, did he?
Maybe Jesus didn’t exist at all . All religions are a man made thing .
I have read somewhere that Jesus had already had previous Earth Lives and that perhaps the life as Jesus was the final one because he had achieved "perfection."
Jesus was Elisha in a previous incarnation...He realized the "Christ Consciousness" as we all must in the end of our journey and melt into SOURCE
@@Kmosleymusic yeah thos guys frame of reference needs to change. Jesus was a trickster like the anunnaki aliens
Although, I think we should really step back from vilifying paradox. I think the paradoxes are the inherent glue that holds reality together. You can see this in the mystical side of almost any religion. That paradox seems to be part of the experience that we all have in these skinsuits.
Rather than trying to use human logic to try to find a linear path from freeing ourselves from paradoxes-I would say that sometimes, even in the name of mysticism, we should just let go trying to fully create a logical path to unravel paradoxes all the time.
Wow!!! I love the way he's explained it. Thank you for another wonderful video 😊
Thank you Tom for your explanation. I see it so clear!!.
Cordially.
Your conciousness is also capable of giving you answers to questions you haven't asked yet.
I had a huge Epiphany I understood many, many things many I had no way of knowing.
When I investigated the Information I was given. It was all spot on.
Evidently I have been here before.
Turtle Island Indigenous are Druids
I'm a reincarnated Druid.
There's rotation in the Universe that's why its expanding.
How the world power structure really is.
Actually it has never completely stopped.
I intermittently get new and sometimes shocking information.
Yes! Are you on FB or IG? I’d love to hear more!!
As a fan of many different ideas it's nice to see someone take physics and combine it with non duality in such a great way 😉
How so? His entire thesis is that the mind (consciousness) and body (avatar) are not the same, that when the avatar "dies" the consciousness lives on. That is the essence of mind-body duality.
The audience doesn't need a catch up... Tom, explains very well. Much appreciated!
"It's a query against the database." That's fascinating. I'm often curious how during a dream how it is that we are both generating the dream and experiencing it at the same time.
Could it be that the dream and the self are aspects of a unity?
Me, I can't imagine how it could be otherwise.
I have always questioned science this way but all my teachers and classmates laughed at me instead. Now I know what kind of people I should follow in order to satisfy my logic. That also explains why I never met one in real life.
Amazing. This fellow is putting into systematic words something very similar to ideas I have held for a while. It's not identical, but he's clearly thought through deeply his analysis of the data we have from experiential reports by NDEers. I must read his work thoroughly now. I'm looking forward to finding parallels in how close our thinking matches. Weird that I'd never really heard of him before.
Well, actually Mr. Swedenborg (1688-1772) had a similar concept. But Tom Campbell use a more modern languages. There is a TH-cam channel that covers Mr. Swedenborg work very well.
Wow this lines up with a lot of intuitions I’ve had and research. I don’t know how to feel about it. Hopeful and depressed at the same time
Excellent..... thanks
Much love for Tom Campbell
Consciousness has grown, become more aware and refined itself in dialectical relationship to Teknos /(the beautiful technogy or art) and Being in the transcendental evolving language system.
Here are many analogies for consciousness and reality mimicking how computers and their games function.
The conversation inspired alternative analogies from the theatre - ie the areas behind the scenes (virtual reality).
Poets and artists have also created totalising functioning analogies for the totality.
Here I think of Goya, Turner, Klimt... involving mystic painter physics.
I think different languages suggest different world models.
Great to hear so much from the captivating scientist Thomas Campbell and his insightful interviewer.
I also study TOE.
Tom definitely holds the keys. Some of the things he says I've experienced it using (Ketamine) it makes sence to me.👌
Have you read Neville Goddard?
@@ashleytaylor994 I have recently and HES ON TO SOMETHING along with earl nightingale.
Wow this guy is super cool, loved every minute of this
This is the null set! Nothingness equals infinity, so here we are :)
I completely agree, @15 Minute Enlightenment.
Thank you. Had me so sad. Feel more heartened now Major Tom. ❤
So enlightening and interesting!
Loved this. Such fun
But you can at least temporarily alter or modify your own personal consciousness with various substances. By the way, I love Tom Campbell and read his book, "My Big Toe," several years ago. Some of it was challenging for me to understand, but it definitely makes you think.
That's exactly what gives me a headache, @S Darby, as it has a ring of materialism to it, i.e. the use of substances I mean (I love to be proven wrong on that, though). From some NDErs' accounts, it looks as if medication had zero effect on the perceptions they had while "out of the body". With psychoactive substances, even minute doses can have a marked or strong effects (I can personally attest to it from recently participating in a clinical trial with medium to higher doses of LSD administered for research purposes). That in particular has me scratch my head with all things "consciousness". If it can be so dramatically altered by way of some (chemical) molecules interacting with some receptors in the brain... how then could anyone say that (human) consciousness was independent of the brain/body?
I mean, I'm just wondering. It knocks a dent in the whole "spiritual"/conscioussness/we're-eternal "argument", doesn't it? Something's either amiss.... or consciousness is far simpler than we tend to think in our anthropocentric bias.
@@wesboundmusic Mr Campbell is dismissive of drugs and says that they provide an experience but do not help someone to grow up. The brain does not affect consciousness but limits the consciousness according to the rule set.
@@wesboundmusic what if the brain in it's normal mode of operation is actually filtering consciousness in such a way that blinds us from certain phenomena and potentiality, and psychedelic drugs configure the brain in such a way that the filter is weakened?
You can alter your sense perceptions which gives you the impression of an altered consciousness but underneath all the mental/abstract noise the consciousness is completely unaffected. You are the changeless witness behind the changeful mind and completely detached and unaffected from everything that happens on the level of mind
@@johnharris3118 Mr. Campbell is perfectly entitled to having and expressing his views from his experiences. And I should enjoy the same rights, shouldn't? :-) (or anyone, for that matter). But in all fairness: I tentatively agree from this ONE - an so far sole - "mind altering" /perception altering experience. I'd just humbly add that responsible and safe administration of "drugs" might effect a "reset" in some neural pathways that are otherwise near impossible to come by. Or such is the idea of those parties going about clinical trials which investigate the potential use of the latter in and for therapeutic settings. None other. I'm not a hippie and have zero intention to become one this late in life ;-)
As to "growing up": I don't think I'm too partial to that wording. It has a pretty condescending subtext and tone to my ears.
I have quite some mixed feelings about this interview. I totally favor the idea that consciousness is fundamental. It makes logically sense and matches my personal experiences. Tom Campbell presents a bunch of meaningful ideas here based on that general assumption, but they're not at all new. The notion of reality being a "simulation" is just the modern-world interpretation of what Buddhism teaches since ages: that reality is a construct of the mind, and that all there is is process. The idea that we all live in our own constructed realities is also very old.
But exactly how does it work? How is the "simulation", if you will, constructed? How come that this "Ego-I" was constructed and is now in this reality? Why isn't it somewhere else, why is it so reluctant to change into other realities? It's almost as if it would "snap back" into this one. The brain and sensual organs seem to create a feedback loop between consciousness and physical reality. How does that come into play? What exactly is consensual reality, how does it come about, and what mechanism makes it so ridiculously stable? I feel that we're totally missing a concise theoretical framework that connects consciousness and physical reality, and it disappoints me that Tom doesn't even provide a fundamental approach to answering all this in the interview. I'd have expected that a physicist should have come up with a more rigorous, systematic and formalized theory in 35 years. I wonder if that is in the books, but I doubt so after hearing these 1.5 hrs. The presented idea of entropy could provide an approach, but how does it calculate? Physical system(s) and consciousness system should form a closed total system since there is no outside environment. So, how does the idea of that system trying to lower its entropy fit with the 2nd law of thermodynamics stating that entropy can only grow larger in a closed system? Btw I feel that Donald Hoffman's approach of modeling individual consciousnesses as interacting agents is more promising. But we need to derive all known physical laws from there, otherwise the concept isn't worth all too much. Testable new physical experiments should also come out of this.
What I also note is that models like this often tend to get too anthropocentric. I think that's a fundamental mistake. The world isn't evolving around humans, even if they often like to think so. E.g. the notions of "good" and "bad" are mostly defined by human-level moral, probably much less so by consciousness itself.
For what it's worth, Amber: I had these and some similar questions in my notes. In preparing for this interview, I went fairly deep into Hoffman's approach, Nick Bostrom's, Klee Irwin's, to name just the most recent ones (oh, and not to forget Bernardo Kastrup). And personally, not in my role as interviewer, I tend to agree with you (and particularly on your mention that we tend to get too anthropocentric with our research for the fundamentals of the universe). I tried to get Mr. Campbell to give us an outline as to how the framework of his theory differs from Hoffman's et al. or vice versa . And I also thought to have found inconsistencies in his framework, which I tried to get him to resolve. I must leave it up to the viewers to decide, whether or how well he responded to that.
As far as testable predictions, Mr. Campbell and a team of volunteering researchers are in the process of designing and collecting funding for more in-depth experiments testing the core assumptions Mr. Campbell states at the outset of these 90 mins. + and which he talks about on his own channel. Meanwhile, the larger part of his ideas he was going to explore was already looked at by other scientists and what they found pretty much confirms the Copenhagen interpretation of Quantum Physics (which seems to be Mr. Campbell's position as well as he says in the interview). And very recently, Carlo Rovelli lays out an approach that suggests all we see, measure, experience is basically a vast web of interrelations, more than "objective reality" or a simulation. (I commented on this here: wp.me/p7yW9-GT). And very recently, causal set theory has entered this field of debate again.
So, yes, this topic area is a very productive one with lots of other promising contenders.
Read Richard H. JONES (translator)
Indian Madhyamaka Buddhist Philosophy After Nagarjuna
Fantastic interview. Thanks 🙏. ❤️
Sometimes I think that the multiverse idea, which contemporary science came up with, is useful only for perpetuating those huge superhero movie franchises. It belongs to the pop culture world.
I think the superhero franchise became before the theory of multiverse. It's spoken about quite often and it really goes together with reincarnation. The multi dimensional verse. Not everyone is reincarnated.
@@razony Who is not reincarnated ?
@@aliceneely2647 well it’s those that have evolved beyond the need for physical vessels.
Consciousness = God
Consciousness = soul ???
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A Basic question:- If consciousness is evolving (as T Campbell suggests) what was its starting point ?
He suggests primordial consciousness as self awareness with a choice, @peter johnson.
@@wesboundmusic And what exists prior to primordial consciousness ?
Thanks for this video.
Awesome 😎 thanks brother 🙏
Honeslty, I would only buy his books if you want to support his idea. These videos explain the gist of what he's saying very well. I purchased his original book and it's good but watching 2 or 3 of his vids will inform you just as well.
The day we EACH not only realize...but KNOW we are COLLECTIVELY the one who consciously sits behind, is the end of the this illusory world and the point at which we face who or what we really are together. We can then choose to accept who or what we are... Or decide to become something else altogether.
Have you read Neville Goddard?
I might agree, I can't be sure, but I know the reason we are conscious is so that we can build the extended phenotype we call civilization which is so extraordinarily protective of and helpful to our reproductive inclinations that we now approach eight billion. Hard to make a civilization running on instinct only, eh?
Think of Layering in an online MMORPG game server. Thousands of players get placed into layers in one server. All of those players are existing on the same server, but they can only see and interact with other players who exist within their layer of that server.
To me, that would be similar to saying that there is one true fundamental consciousness that started everything, and all physical/material things that exist are all manifestations derived from that source consciousness. Every new thing to come out of that source, creates a new layer, then another, and another, and another, infinitely.
All things have 'their own universe'.
But all things and all universes came from the original source consciousness.
But, this raises the question- Don't MMO's have multiple servers with multiple layers per server? (server representing a universe)
My girl friends parents told her to have a vaccination or move out? I told her that FEAR is not allowed in the Immortal Spirit. @2/4/2021 5:28 PM CST USA
I knew he couldn't do it in 25 words...😉..but he is one my favorite authors.
Truth is simple not verbose or complicated.
I recommend listening to the book 'seth speaks' on TH-cam to help you with the fear of death and it reveals who you are. Excellent book I recommend to all.
I will check it out. Though with anything anyone says, I take it all with a grain of salt as to give it too much weight is what leads to people following people, placing people on pedestals, and creating religions. All of which are limited by ones perception of an experience or the reality we live in. Also bear in mind Seth Speaks has to do with CHANNELING and there are a lot folks that are against that as they believe its not of God. Again though im not saying it is or isn't. But I don't hold up ONE thing as total truth. We all see in part and that part we see may be skewed like looking through dusty window and trying to grasp concepts that can only be grasped on the other side.
@@jm7720 agreed...find what resonates , discard what is crap and add what is your own experience
Seriously, @Inner Light? I made it through maybe a third, then tossed it away. Ok, in the author's defense: Maybe it had to do with the person who had recommended it to me that it wouldn't sit well with me.
Consciousness is intelligent hence God. All Consciousness is Self-Consciousness. Therefore the Self is God.
@Lee Parry Bernardo Kastrup describes the differentiator as each human is dissociated from the one consciousness, that's what our brain does. When our brain dies the barrier is removed and we meld into the larger consciousness. So why? Why do we live these dissociated lives? The only thing I can see is so that we can suffer. Perhaps that's the fuel the consciousness needs???????
Indeed Thank You!
Excellent 💜 thank you lots of love.
I had the thought a while back that the Planck length is the "pixel" of our simulation.
I love that thought, @Clark MGB! Great analogy!
So, I have some questions.. It would be nice if people commented their suggestions. So, what are we like, as pieces of consciousness out of our avatar? Do we keep all of our memories and feelings? And I don't mean just stored. I mean do we have feelings as pieces of consciousness? Do we feel love, hurt, envy etc? Do we interact with other pieces of consciousness with these feelings in a way we would as if we were avatars (not physically since we are non physical then) and how would this interaction be I wonder? Can we use the same avatar in another virtual reality, since the information is all there already?
I found some of the answers in the books of Varda Hasselmann.
th-cam.com/video/J2oZEkH2yM4/w-d-xo.html
read Richard H Jones Indian Madhyamaka Buddhist Philosophy After Nagarjuna
Mmm..I think about this too, like would I laugh at the same jokes? Maybe your ‘personality’ would be the sum total of all the knowledge you gained over all the lives you’ve lived.
Maybe the best video on TH-cam!
Excellent
Amazing
This is amazing.
I asked a lot of scientists to explain gravity to me and they all did. At the end of the explanations I didn't really understand how it worked. They admitted necessary assumptions and even holes in their explanations. I decided to simply BELIEVE in gravity. I could see it in action so I knew it was there. I guess you could say gravity became my religion. Viva las paradoxes. LOL
One senses gravity as the entity Grave upON planet , and we all FreeA-DoM to be anything as long as we are pulls and pushing to evolve around vase galaxies... I'm aiming for milkyWay as the pyramids are earth's counter weight heading somewhere out there wobbling. ToWards. ConSciences from a sub scientist lol.
You didn’t choose to believe in gravity.. you were convinced because you see the evidence that it exists (however it works) beliefs aren’t ever choices. How can you choose to believe something yer not convinced is true?
Is there a stage where I can hear Hoffman, Kastrup and Campbell interacting?
When you find it - I'd like to see that play out as well @Carla ;-)
Have you seen Meher Baba's explanation that the evolution of consciousness proceeds side by side with the evolution of form. Starting with gases going through inanimate than lower animated forms , plants, fish bird, animal, and culminating in the human form?