What Happens when You Die | Penny Sartori In Conversation
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- Penny Sartori is a British medical researcher in the field of near-death studies. She worked as an intensive care nurse for many years, during which time she cared for many patients who were close to death.
In this interview she tells how she began researching near-death experiences, motivated by experiences she had on the intensive care unit. She describes the fascinating findings of her research, which became known worldwide.
Contents:
00:50 How did it come that you did a study into near-death experiences?
07:00 How many people with cardiac arrest did you interview?
07:09 And of those how much had a near-death experience?
09:41 Do you remember any other striking reports?
16:45 So what was the overall conclusion of this?
21:38 You also looked into end of life phenomenon?
26:04 How do we know this is not just a hallucination?
26:39 What do you think is the value of this research for society?
28:43 Have you had experience with patients who committed suicide or tried to commit suicide?
30:20 Can you talk with every client about near-death experiences? Or is there a resistance?
30:44 Have you also heard about hellish experiences during a near-death experience?
35:17 Do you think there is a connection between the way somebody thinks and the kind of near-death experience they have?
36:46 How is this research received in a medical profession?
38:05 Should we encourage discussing and talking about death?
41:50 What do you do to communicate your insights and your experiences?
43:56 What kind of students are they?
Credits:
Interviewer: Jens Rohrbeck
Director: Mehmet Yesilgöz
Editor: Werner Huemer
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I like how straightforward and down to earth Penny Sartori is. And she’s not preachy at all. No missionary-style efforts to try and force her view of things on her listeners, which I always find to be a turnoff (even if I’m personally sympathetic to those views). She just calmly lays out what her research has uncovered then leaves it to us to decide what to make of it.
Grateful for your contributions Penny Sartori. I had a fellow x ray engineer who was revived in the cath lab where he is the lead in house engineer, revived by the doctors he answers to for image quality. Dead from factor 5 clotting for 42 minutes on the c arm, had his blood filtered, temperature dropped by 40 degrees to buy time, clots cleared, eventual revival. He said he got sent back. He said he knew everything on the other side there was to know. But he couldn't bring it all back with him. He said we are all connected and we don't even realize it. That we effect the entire planet and each other as a butterfly effect, or when you throw a rock into a pond, the ripples are our actions, going forever outward, and even our thoughts are more powerful than we realize and effect each other. But we have free will to bring the whole planet up or down. He said earth was grade school. That we think this is reality, he points to the ceiling and says the other side IS REALITY, THIS IS THE DREAM. Time did not exist on the other side. It was always now. No past, no sense of future.
@JimHadash
He should be interviewed if so inclined.
Been through about 250hrs of video interviews on NDE's. Putting aside all my other research this alone is enough to enlighten me on the subject. Over 13 million documented NDE's world wide. All studies pretty much across the board have a 60 to 90 percent ranking in being similar or the same throughout about all the subcategories they are rated under.
There's literally more proof of God within the study of this one subject than all the religious sects in the world.
We don't know that time exists here either, really. You can see what I mean pretty easily, its just a different way of looking at things. I'll explain it since you might be interested: Its really simple - if you look at what is happening now, "in the now", the past and future are just suggestions, or just information. What is contained in the now is just like a web of information, eg you might think that the past exists, but its simply that you trust the information in the now telling you that it exists - a memory is just an image with the suggestion that it happened at a time other than now. Most people will go through their lives fully believing these suggestions, and there is nothing really wrong with that, there is no other way to live this life really - but it doesn't change the truth of it - you cannot prove that either the past or future exists on what you have available in the now, on present evidence. If an afterlife exists, its entirely possible that we never really leave it, we just enter an illusion, and by seeing how the belief in time comes about, can tell you a little about how this illusion might be constructed.
Can someone explain how events can happen without time existing?
I hate to be anal, but I am... You mean 'affect', not 'effect', but I know what you mean... I agree with you, though... How happy the planet is, is the sum total of how happy the populace is, so if you can be happy and make as many people and creatures you meet in your day happy, you comtribute to the sum total and make this planet a happier place... Yeah... Sounds good to me...
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I wish I had the vocabulary to do just that. Fwiw, though I've had two NDEs, it was a spontaneous OBE subsequent to the second one that was the most beautiful and illuminating of my life. It seemed to go on for hours, but when my consciousness returned to my body, I discovered that only about two minutes had passed.
Also, since both time and distance are both mentioned as those things which do not exist away from our bodies, I'll describe this: I not only left my body, but traveled to the moon. It must seem crazy, but it seemed more real than life here on Earth.
The immense love I felt was as strong as what I felt in my two NDEs, too. The result is that I've no fear about what happens after death. Meanwhile, I wish more people would talk about the STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) that occur after NDEs. This can include increased psychic abilities and even mediumship.
Wishing you every blessing.
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To those rating a thumbs down. We're really sorry that you are having a painful life, and need to strike out. Sending you love...
There is a huge difference between hallucinations and deathbed visions. Having seen my mother in the last months of life, I could tell when she was having hallucinations, since she was often agitated, aggressive, talking all sorts of nonsense, and sometimes said to me: “go away, you bitch.”
In the final weeks before her death, there were a few times when my mother was suddenly completely lucid. She recognised me again and was not talking nonsense. It was during these lucid moments that she spoke about seeing her mother and brother, who had died a long time ago. She was not agitated but calm and contented. She was also horrified about the language she had used when she told me to go away.
Lovely to hear a fellow Welsh accent. My sun works in the RGH in theatres as an ODP. He thinks I am nuts. I am a retired teacher. And I’m old. So I’m not frightened of death, I don’t want to be in pain. And I want to see my darling latest grandson grow.
Having had OBEs myself, I can corroborate that at the moment it happens, you're not looking for cards with symbols on it. You're so elated, flabbergasted, and in awe, that you're not interested in "worldly" tasks. First time I had an OBE I was so thrilled I laughed and started tap-dancing on the ceiling. From this vantage point I looked down on my body in the bed and I had this big, blissful grin on my face. I loved it!
Hi, was it an accidental OBE? How were you able to come back to your body?
Wow! I can relate to what Penny said. Why? Because days before my Dad died he was talking outloud to his deceased mother!!!!
Penny is obviously an intelligent Lady and has integrity combined with genuine warmth and this is a compelling interview 😃
Penny is such a lovely intelligent woman!
Her home looks absolutely beautiful and cozy! I could listen to her speak for hours!
I love the rug with the purple chaise
Me too. I was so sad when the interview ended!
You can rewatch it :)))
I really enjoyed Penny's understanding of NDE.
She has a healing temperament. Very mater of fact..
I could listen to this lady all day her voice is so soothing x
I agree , she’s a loving human being
Yes indeed!!
Penny's research is so valuable! Really appreciate her and other people who study this complex topic.
Super lovely lady. She's a natural born teacher. I can see why her students wanted to learn more. I appreciate for long-term dedication to this field!
Grateful to you Penny Sartori. Really enjoyed listening to your interview. Thank you.
This is so important for all of us as death is the only eventuality for all of us . Be our strength dear lord
Hi Angela I enjoy N.D.E aswell! I live in Utah. Where are you from?
…my grandma told us that my father visited her but he did not speak…we did not tell her that my dad died
I think that the soul is the energy that comes into the body and makes it function. Brain waves, heartbeat are electric/energy. Without the energy there are no brain waves, heartbeat etc. So the energy itself is the soul/consciousness which comes before the brain function which means the brain is not needed to experience consciousness. Consciousness and the brain are two totally separate things because consciousness is just the pure state of being while the brain is conditional/duality... It makes sense that people observe their bodies from above during NDE's while having no brain activity because the energy/soul separates from the body and it stays nearby until further notice while being able to observe what's going on in the physical/3D and at the same time being able to have 5D experiences because of the separation from the body. Kinda like what happens when we fall asleep. The soul is separated from the body but is somehow still attached to it causing us to dream(5D)...I'm no expert, just brainstorming the topic.
I think those who have a negative experiance are actually entering the lowest astral plane
Higher self now!
I love hearing her for days talking about things
Your studies have been so enlightening.Thank you for sharing.
This account is so vivid😮
Thank you for sharing
I’ve watched hundreds, perhaps thousands, of videos regarding NDE’s (my favorite topic!). This one is a favorite! Thanks so much. Love to all,
Philip
This is very good; what a sober, deep yet human approach to such an important matter. Thanks for sharing.
Penny you have a fabulous, clear way of expressing yourself and your research. Congratulations and good luck on your further studies.
Qué mujer tan interesante, tan sencilla y tan abierta de mente. Ha sabido observar y escuchar a lo largo de su carrera profesional. Gracias Sra Sartori por su trabajo, por su testimonio.
Just noticed.....how appropriate that Penny's surname is 'Sartori' (I could be wrong, but is 'sartori' a Buddhist word for enlightenment/awakening??).
‘Satori’ is sudden enlightenment, described in Zen Buddhism.
Dear Werner ~ Thank you for this extraordinary interview with Penny. It's great to hear that further studies about STEs are taking place.
STEs (spiritually transformative experiences) that happen as a result of NDEs are too rarely discussed. On the other hand, it took decades for folks to discuss NDEs. Here's to being free of stigmas re: the many layers of consciousness.
Paz y luz, all.
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Thank you 🙏🏽
I have viewed enough Hellish like NDE experiences to conclude that this was a journey that too much scared people need to go trough, because every experience in your NDE is like few people has explained: "thousand fold that of the earth" . So the fear can expand enormously there, until an inevitable realization in the end: "I'm the creator of all of that", and then they can finally let go of the fear and enter the bliss.
Good.thank you
The brain is like a TV or radio receiver, while consciousness is universal, which we all communicate with (or the signals etc that we tune in and out of/from)
The idea of counsciousness not produced by the brain is the reality or understanding of Hinduism, Buddhism and many other perspectives for thousands of years. The Vedas speak solely to a reality that's congruent with counsciousness as primary in a sense and the physical (the body) as a vehicle of sorts for an experience. Counsciousness is evolving in and through all things made manifest by and through counsciousness.
True. I am a practicing Buddhist since 1999 and everything I’ve studied about dead and consciousness through it is exactly as explained by NDE researchers and experiencers. Many native cultures also have this same understanding about consciousness and life after death.
Sharing is careing 🙌
Interesting video
She is amazing. I love her.
I just want to say that sedating people to calm them doesn't work, as she claimed to do for the woman who was terrified to die, in my experience.
The body relaxes,but the mind and fear doesn't stop.
You just stop being able to relate it.
I'm going to look for this book, this was excellent 🙏💛
You are so right and this should be said more to the people taking care if dying people!
My uncle died a few weeks ago and I visited him for the last time but his daughter didn't want us to talk about his coming death either. And he was diagnosed braindead. Why is that ? Why deny death. I heard somebody say once; death is like falling of a log. Thousands do it every day.
I think Penny is absolutely gorgeous... Not because she's pretty, (she is). Or because she's Irish (although I like that) but because she has genuine human qualities I like, like intelligence and compassion, empathy too. A jewel amongst women... Rare nowadays, unfotunately...
...She's modest and honest, too.. Also rare qualities...
She’s Welsh, not Irish.
We’re not in our body-brain when we go OOB so we are not concerned about or seeing symbols. We are a soul/spirit and need to adjust to this when having OBE.
Thank you for sharing...The continuation of and Eternal Life is REAL indeed and very comforting to know we'll experience the Light and Love of Jesus who is with us and our Loved ones...Always.
"If everybody had an NDE, there would never be another war; no-one would starve or be the victim of violence, and greed would become a thing of the past." ~ Penny Sartori's patient.
Does anyone think that her last name is a coincidence? Because it almost sounds like SATORI and satori is a Japanese Buddhist term for awakening. Nomen Est Omen!
It’s good to hear about NDEs from an independent investigator.
Nice
I wonder why people have distressing experiences
Penny. 💕
Our brain is the hardware and our soul or conscience is the software.
We are all spirits inhabiting a physical body and undergoing many experiences. As spirits, we both survive bodily death and upon death (of the body) go on to another spiritual reality.
Maybe it’s resistance
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Remember all those scenes in movies/TV when the guy/girl trying to save your life YELLING,
"FIGHT, Fight man!" referring to 'Fight for your life!"
I am NOT going to be that guy who fights for this life! "Let me die you big dumb head!"
I believe that Cancer may be cured through "Regression Therapy" (If not already.) So many things can be cured through regression therapy and most cases.
I wonder if it the experience or the interpretation of it
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Penny is obviously of Italian origin and her surname means tailor.
The idea that consciousness is not a product of the brain is the same of the biggest contemporary neuroscientists like Chalmers, Hoffman or Tononi
In my following of NDE's I've waited to hear one thing. That is, if our understanding of The Bible and who Jesus is/was determines our "salvation" or whether we will go to "heaven," why hasn't any spirit, angel or Jesus Himself told an NDE experiencer that? Why haven't they said "go back and focus on The Bible only? Why haven't they said that all religions are false and that only Christian beliefs will get you into heaven? IMO, NDE's create a big problem for institutional religions.
@@brianmueller7913 Maybe they didn't say it because religions are dogmatic and serve only for seperating us from others right now lol. Always the same, always others will burn forever but they are the chosen ones. All the same Bible, Old Testament, Quran, all bullshit (IN MY OPINION). If there is a god I doubt that he is as vengeful as depicted in those books. He is not like a primitive king who wants total obedience of his subjects and get angry if they do not obey him, while in Abrahamic religion he is exactly like that. My interpretation and all that of course.
But anyway, there are some NDEs I read that sees Jesus, Abraham warning about hell and all that stuff, but they were rare as far as I remember.
Remarkable! All is about reaching who we are as GOD created us to be. Uncontaminated Self, free of the ego / Self invented mind!
Yes, very helpful teaching for living or 'dying' humankind. So we know we are eternal.
God bless you with more wisdom to discover the power/ authority within you. 🙏 ❤
John 6:47
Jesus:"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life."
Is penny welsh?
Yes.
@@daraorourke5798 I thought she was irish
She's from Swansea in Wales, the town where I live. She was a nurse in Morriston Hospital in Swansea for many years.
She has a classic South Welsh accent.
Jesus healed his hand.
Belief is not a condition of religion, it’s a condition of relationship with or without Jesus. Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. He is the light of the world. Knowing Him and choosing Him will bring you peace in knowing you’ll be in a better place for eternity.
God bless you all on your earthly journey. It’s not an easy life, but so much better when you can turn to Jesus to have some sort of peace. Love to all!
NDE's show humanity, it's NOT about Jesus or even religion, Period! The millions of NDE's show it's all about the love. The love for whom or what is irrelevant.
Suicide is noot the answer becousse you take your problems in the other place? Really? Pfff..come on..
I think the meaning behind what she's saying is that your soul in the absence of the physical body basking in all lovingness will realize that you may of wanted to experience transcending the suffering.
The limitation of words. She might've used the wrong combination of words. Maybe it is the answer to our life this time but if our soul isn't satisfied with the result then maybe it'll make another attempt under different circumstances in the next incarnation.
Suicide also means being completely aware of the train wreck of ramifications resulting from one's act , but not be able to do much to negate said suffering of those painfully touched by it.
What I'd like to know is if that Jesus figure may have shook the man's hand.
So you don't know why some people have hellish experiences some don't ?!
Did you ever hear of the Saviour and Readimer souls ??? Tell the dyieing about Him (and yourself).
I’ve read near death experiences where they said Jesus told them about reincarnation or Jesus showed them life in other planets. There’s more to death than just the Bible