Hitchens Clashes with Galloway on the Cause of Terrorism

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  • Christopher Hitchens argues with George Galloway on the origins of Islamic fundamentalism.
    Sept. 23, 2005

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  • @calebh8944
    @calebh8944 3 ปีที่แล้ว +663

    George Galloway was so close to laughing at that mother in-law joke

    • @adamleckius2253
      @adamleckius2253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Saved by the sip

    • @matthewglover7742
      @matthewglover7742 2 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      You could say the mother of all jokes

    • @DiogenesOfDelaware
      @DiogenesOfDelaware 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Hahahaha in all his vitriol he can literally only crack a limp smile.

    • @robc1342
      @robc1342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As close a Jupiter to Mars. That guy could not fart a grease BB.

    • @dyschromotopia
      @dyschromotopia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hitchens clearly isn't aware that the virgins are all orphans.

  • @JonReing
    @JonReing 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    It’s like we are all having the same conversation over again

    • @cpesq.5884
      @cpesq.5884 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It's a cancer on the world that keeps coming back

    • @dave9547
      @dave9547 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@cpesq.5884 Zionism?

    • @bagofsteel9152
      @bagofsteel9152 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme." Mark Twain

    • @mistersuds
      @mistersuds 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      We can't help ourselves, it's not wrong and it most certainly better than what's out there...why just react.

  • @kpl775
    @kpl775 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +430

    "With every 72 virgins, they also get 72 mothers in law"
    Hitchens was fckng hilarious 😂😂😂

    • @moeezawan2329
      @moeezawan2329 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are no 72 virgins that's fabricated hadeth everybody in Muslim community knows apparently idiots on internet are slow to catch up.

    • @theevilascotcompany9255
      @theevilascotcompany9255 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not if some of them are sisters. Just sayin'.

    • @adirajvanshi
      @adirajvanshi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@theevilascotcompany9255Wisdom comes with age.

    • @MartinMaat
      @MartinMaat 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      No he wasn't, he was not making a point either, he was only disrespectful.

    • @kpl775
      @kpl775 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@MartinMaat y'all need to grow up and learn how to take a joke

  • @jamesmkoenig
    @jamesmkoenig 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I miss the days when real time had more than 2 guests at the table

    • @barryfoster453
      @barryfoster453 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Why are all three British?

    • @wizzyone6789
      @wizzyone6789 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most guests now avoid his insufferable mug.

  • @ruthbashford3176
    @ruthbashford3176 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    George doesn't find the mother-in-law joke funny!

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It isn't really though, is it?

    • @askfaisalmuslim
      @askfaisalmuslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@garymorgan3314 True it isn't funny, it is also incorrect, nothing is being mentioned about mother-in-laws.

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@askfaisalmuslim "With every 72 Virginia, they also get 72 mothers-in-law" suggests different. Admittedly it is a terrible joke but it gives the lie to your attempted correction.
      How did you miss something so obvious? Why not remark on the notion the "virgins" was a midtranslation and actually should have read "dried white grapes/raisins"?

    • @askfaisalmuslim
      @askfaisalmuslim 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@garymorgan3314 how do you know it is a mistranslation though? Hear say or did you actually read the text? Because I can confirm there is nothing mentioned about 72 grapes?

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@askfaisalmuslim I heard it from an Arabic friend. Anyway why should I take you seriously when you denied a mother-in-law joke had been there in spite of there being one very clearly enunciated?
      If you can get something so easy wring you are not in a position to be trusted on literarally anything.

  • @SylviaXTan
    @SylviaXTan 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +345

    Mr. Hitchens is more needed nowadays than ever. RIP.

    • @samconran
      @samconran 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@ChucklesMcGurk Wasn't proven right at all. Quite the opposite.

    • @dddd6912
      @dddd6912 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@samconranyou find those weapons of mass destruction? They found them buried up your ass? Or was it just your head?

    • @PatTigue
      @PatTigue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hitchens is a tatcher lite knows everything from a distance a total clown 🤡

    • @sacred1827
      @sacred1827 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Surprising you write that under a video which captures him during his awful decline

    • @TheTomnom
      @TheTomnom 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      George has become so intoxicated by his crusade against 'all wrongs' that he has lost the plot. Listen to him now cheerleading the conspiracists for proof.

  • @davesheldon2874
    @davesheldon2874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Galloway is the master of Whataboutthis?, Whataboutthat ? And hence avoid the issue. Hitch always faced the issues head on . I miss him.

    • @saladinayubi4201
      @saladinayubi4201 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i have never seen such an idiot like hitchens.

  • @sudo_nym
    @sudo_nym 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Back when we had fascinating adversaries

  • @weareallanimals
    @weareallanimals 2 ปีที่แล้ว +217

    I love Hitchens' smiling "I'm gonna rip your lungs out" look at the audience at 3:50

    • @ChangeUrdestiny-pp2zj
      @ChangeUrdestiny-pp2zj 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      audience must be foolish from peaceful religion

    • @PianoGesang
      @PianoGesang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BS

    • @jinpachi4072
      @jinpachi4072 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's BS

    • @middy774
      @middy774 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's so fun

    • @shahidrashid1248
      @shahidrashid1248 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tells u how fucking ignorant people like you are and believe lies after lies

  • @joansnow4013
    @joansnow4013 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Weird how this was chosen since I just watched the 2000’s on CNN

  • @chris12dec
    @chris12dec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can you upload the whole thing please?

  • @jeffallcock2594
    @jeffallcock2594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Here I think history has proven Hitchens wrong. Nothing lasting or worth the cost was achieved in Afghanistan. It is, or soon will be, pretty much the same as it was before the US invasion, among other things, a graveyard of empires.

    • @SuperJeff1225
      @SuperJeff1225 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well said. I would also say that Hitchens should have known that the US today is not the US on yesterday, where we had the resolve to build democracy out of the rubble like we did in Japan and Germany.

    • @anciagabe7804
      @anciagabe7804 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Graveyard of empires? All the empires that went into Afghanistan are still around.

    • @DTD110865
      @DTD110865 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, it hasn't. Because it was actually Shiekh Abdullah Azzam who told Osama to go to Afghanistan, and he rejected any aid from the US.

    • @MiningForPies
      @MiningForPies 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@anciagabe7804the British empire isn’t.

    • @jake8855
      @jake8855 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@anciagabe7804 The British empire, USSR and Mongol Empire don't exist anymore, do they?

  • @PlayNiceFolks
    @PlayNiceFolks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Cheers, Hitch.

    • @farzanamughal5933
      @farzanamughal5933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He sucks in this video

    • @giftig694
      @giftig694 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@farzanamughal5933Go read a book, a real one.

    • @JohnM-sw4sc
      @JohnM-sw4sc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@farzanamughal5933 he’s ok in this video- his closing point is decent

    • @farzanamughal5933
      @farzanamughal5933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnM-sw4sc No, by his closing point he is rattled

    • @JohnM-sw4sc
      @JohnM-sw4sc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@farzanamughal5933 he seems annoyed by bill and his audience of seagulls.
      But I think the point that Al queda was truly a philosophical and fundamentalist global worldview and not a simple separatist group that can be reasoned with was at least valid

  • @marktonner4951
    @marktonner4951 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wereis the full debate

  • @pigeonstrangler
    @pigeonstrangler 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Such a smart panel.

  • @edwardgabel3701
    @edwardgabel3701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good discussion.

  • @patrickcooney5423
    @patrickcooney5423 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    A few years prior to this debate , Hitchens was far left and was opposed to American involvement in the Middle East , what has happened that he is now so Conservative in his views .? A complete turnaround!!!

    • @TerranigmaQuintet
      @TerranigmaQuintet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His atheism causing the disdain for the Islam in general ( obviously, it's a religion which hes against). Problem is hes supported another party thats guided by another big religion. It was and is foolish to think the USA does not act out of religious beliefs.

    • @arikkatzenberg582
      @arikkatzenberg582 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s what thinking people do with new information

    • @patrickcooney5423
      @patrickcooney5423 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arikkatzenberg582 Wow , that’s a major amount of thinking involved to do such a complete u-turn from radical left to conservative. What information was involved to make such a major ideological shift as he did .
      Was it a St Paul Damascus moment ? Or more likely the realisation that the loony left he belonged to made no sense in the real world . Would love to hear more examples of ‘ thinking people ‘ changing their ideological stance having received more. ‘ information ‘ . Any Conservative ‘ thinking ‘ people become Woke lefties on learning the latest stuff about climate change , trans gender issues etc ???

    • @S.Trades
      @S.Trades 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can you criticise a man for changing his views? Lots of people change their minds.

    • @patrickcooney5423
      @patrickcooney5423 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@S.Trades He never explained why he changed his mind , what new evidenced emerged ? As someone who made his living debating issues of the day ,he needed to have in depth detailed knowledge of the various subjects , yet he just changed his mind !!!
      Not acceptable !!!!

  • @zombiehampster1397
    @zombiehampster1397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Can't agree with HItchens on this one, I'm more along the lines of Galloway in that there is a cause and effect and it does have to do with colonialism and the wests attitude towards the middle east as a cake they can just carve up. People don't like it when another country starts to throw its weight around in another part of the world. That and Bill Maher is just not funny.

    • @ghosthunter0950
      @ghosthunter0950 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you're about as west centrist as the extremist right wingers you're complaining about. don't patronize the Muslim world.

    • @High_Priest_Jonko
      @High_Priest_Jonko 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bill Maher was funny when he said "Well now I hate them. Thanks Chris"

  • @user-sg3lv9ee2i
    @user-sg3lv9ee2i 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    With the passing of Christopher, the free world lost a great thinker. Will we ever see another Hitchens ever again? I seriously doubt it.

    • @davehale2309
      @davehale2309 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Douglass Murray

    • @alliedatheistalliance6776
      @alliedatheistalliance6776 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@davehale2309 Douglas is no Hitchens, he's a shill for the corporations. Hitchens had no paymaster, that's what made him a truly free thinker.

    • @tintin1265
      @tintin1265 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tim Nice but dim.

    • @_boringk6778
      @_boringk6778 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Coleman Hughes

    • @alliedatheistalliance6776
      @alliedatheistalliance6776 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@_boringk6778 I'll give him a listen, thank you!

  • @thiest1205
    @thiest1205 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    4:13 that cough, i remember it well, I was lucky,
    R.I.P Christopher, i wish you'd had my luck

    • @chrisbirch4150
      @chrisbirch4150 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Interesting spot. The cough sounds like any cough to me, but it is definitely interesting how much he wants to conceal and control it. It was something he was very conscious of

    • @thiest1205
      @thiest1205 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@chrisbirch4150 I had the same cough, it was cancer, I was lucky and discovered my cancer very early, had my lung out and a full recovery without any chemotherapy after my operation, sadly Christopher wasn't as lucky

  • @d-thec-tieve4648
    @d-thec-tieve4648 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I'm Iranian and let me tell you this:
    Even though I agree with something Galloway says This guy is on everysingle State run media. He was on press Tv and I just saw him on RT(Russia owned station in English)

    • @navylaks2
      @navylaks2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Galloway is a dickhead he only goes where the money is

    • @tagizademirasim
      @tagizademirasim 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you are iranian and why most of iranians hates islam or just dont believed it ??)))

    • @darkthought784
      @darkthought784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The funny thing is that the term al-Qaeda is taken from the name of a city in Yemen

    • @darkthought784
      @darkthought784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why did the Shah of Iran send soldiers to Dhofar?

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@tagizademirasim The grip of the Mullahs on Iran is not what you think. It’s not a theocratic state.

  • @BennyBall
    @BennyBall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    I love Hitchens but I fully agree with Galloway on this one

  • @carmenlottner297
    @carmenlottner297 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The irresistible force against the immovable object.

  • @LukeMornings
    @LukeMornings 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hitchens Was a gift to the world.

  • @bryanbelshaw7725
    @bryanbelshaw7725 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Hitchens also conveniently focused on Iraq when it was very well known that most of the so called hijackers where from Saudi Arabia. Not a word said.

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hitchens actively supported the invasion of Iraq

    • @huepix
      @huepix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought they were from the CIA.

    • @DTD110865
      @DTD110865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Only 15 of them were, and they weren't working for the Saudi Kingdom.

    • @jdorritie
      @jdorritie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Islamic fundamentalism is more dangerous than ever

    • @m-linko
      @m-linko ปีที่แล้ว

      But it was known they were hiding in Iraq, you nincompoop

  • @sco7642
    @sco7642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    Ultimately Hitchens was a little short-sighted at the beginning with the "I think Bin Laden was one of a kind" comments, if he'd lived to see ISIS maybe he would've changed his opinion.

    • @dajossa1
      @dajossa1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Nobody else attempted 9/11 type attacks i assume is what he meant...
      If anything you can only say that with the benefit of hindsight.

    • @VegetabIeMan
      @VegetabIeMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You’re looking at it in a different type of context. Hitler was one of a kind as well. Which is why he conquered Germany with a popular vote. The type of one of “don’t fuck around” kind of guy.

    • @harryantino
      @harryantino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ISIS are not remotely as well connected in international terms as Bin Laden was, so I’m not so sure you’d have seen him change his mind.

    • @liamhirst5365
      @liamhirst5365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No way lol isis wouldn’t have come about with bin laden and al qaeda in the first place

    • @meltedsnowman9637
      @meltedsnowman9637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dajossa1 Well if he meant that then that statement would just be tautologically true, in which case it offers nothing of value.

  • @davidfisher9026
    @davidfisher9026 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am a big fan of Christopher but he was very wrong about 9/11, invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. The facts contradict him after his death. RIP Christopher.

  • @MrBBOTP
    @MrBBOTP 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Probably got slipped something nasty about this time, he looks healthy & a bit preoccupied. I will always love U HITCH, a real American!

  • @darkthought784
    @darkthought784 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The funny thing is that the term al-Qaeda is taken from the name of a city in Yemen

    • @liamhirst5365
      @liamhirst5365 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No it means the base

    • @darkthought784
      @darkthought784 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liamhirst5365 yes and the name of the city too

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Weren’t the Bin Ladens emigres to Saudi from there? Just a thought.

    • @ryand141
      @ryand141 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bin Ladens were from Yemen (southern). Oh, and they bailed out the Saudi royal family, so that they could continue to subjugate their people and steal billions.

    • @darkthought784
      @darkthought784 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ryand141 but rhe saudi support houthi

  • @dylanmckirgan319
    @dylanmckirgan319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    Bill Maher has changed

    • @jamesdettmann94
      @jamesdettmann94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, what's wrong with change? It's what we all do

    • @Mo-iv8ot
      @Mo-iv8ot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      He's a reactionary at best and court jester at worst. No integrity or values. Cheap man.

    • @DaReaperZ
      @DaReaperZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@jamesdettmann94 Change isn't a garuanteed good though. Even if everyone changes, someone can change for the worse.

    • @jamesdettmann94
      @jamesdettmann94 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DaReaperZ there is no good or evil, only the natural process of change

    • @DaReaperZ
      @DaReaperZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesdettmann94 Philosophical bullshit. Either way I wasn't talking about good or evil. And there most certainly is good or bad in this context.
      So in summary, yes change can be for the better or for the worse.

  • @jdagni
    @jdagni 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +157

    Hitchens seems to be criticizing what he perceives to be Galloway’s hypocrisy more than his actual statements. Not his best day. Galloway is presenting a more useful, cogent argument. PS Maher is the worst😂

    • @m.a.b.4104
      @m.a.b.4104 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      100% agree 👍

    • @Burtifly
      @Burtifly 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Yeah he was definitely on the wrong side of history and the argument on this topic.

    • @rishabhaniket1952
      @rishabhaniket1952 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, saying US created Bin Laden is like blaming the govt for a spy who went rogue. It is a cliched narrative that people like to jump on and blame their own govt for things that can’t be reverted rather than blaming actual freaking terrorists.

    • @AlvinBang
      @AlvinBang 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Hitchens anti-Islam stuff is a real mark against his name. He was so blinded by his distaste for Islam that he supported the illegal Iraq war. His argument was that it’s not-Islamophobic to criticise real and pervasive toxicities of Islam - but a stance like that makes it feel more ideological. I mean fuck George Galloway but Hitchens embarrasses himself on this topic every time by losing all objectivity and turning into his brother

    • @qfudgedoggy
      @qfudgedoggy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AlvinBang
      Would you revise your statement now in light of what happened a week ago?
      Hitchens seems to be pretty much correct. Maybe we should listen to what they(Radical Islamists) tell us rather than what you think they want.

  • @joecurran2811
    @joecurran2811 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:45 I didn't realise George Galloway of all people had said that first.

    • @ashcross
      @ashcross 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      No, it's a phrase that goes back at least as far as the 1980s: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drain_the_swamp

    • @christophercooper6731
      @christophercooper6731 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He wanted Rula Lenska to drain his whisky and cigar flavoured balls.

  • @HarrisonWard123
    @HarrisonWard123 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Anyone know what hitchens was referring to at 4:55 when he referenced the first Islamic attack (presumably on America?) occurring in 1788?

    • @erebody
      @erebody 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something to do with enslaved American seamen in Tunisia. Jefferson ordered a naval brigade to confront and free the bastards

    • @danhooper3723
      @danhooper3723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Merchant attacks from the Barbary states. They weren't specifically targeting US commerce, but all ships that weren't from known Islamic regions

    • @burnsnight1
      @burnsnight1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danhooper3723 The US marines have a song about. It mentions the halls of Montezuma etc.

  • @b3artattack
    @b3artattack 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +100

    Back when you could still have a real debate about what’s going on

    • @TheBella2u
      @TheBella2u 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Seriously, now it all just blah blah blah no substance.

    • @eaturcurry
      @eaturcurry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Back when bill Maher actually invited smart guests and wasn’t a right wing hack

    • @b3artattack
      @b3artattack 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@eaturcurry in fairness to Bill nobody is platforming Galloway any more. He’s too left and too objectively and demonstrably correct in his positions and arguments.

    • @skiphoffenflaven8004
      @skiphoffenflaven8004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eaturcurryExactly!

    • @dave9547
      @dave9547 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@eaturcurry why is Bill right Wing? Hes an imperialist and a Zionist. Beyond that he's primarily a hack.

  • @MrIlleism
    @MrIlleism 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love to see I'm not alone looking back at these clips. Back when Bill Maher actually was interesting.

  • @acatwood11
    @acatwood11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did he say "drain the swamp?" at the end there??

  • @dashong8912
    @dashong8912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    George Galloway wins that round.

    • @duderyandude9515
      @duderyandude9515 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they both have good points.

    • @dashong8912
      @dashong8912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@duderyandude9515 Hitchens was trying to paint a picture that Galloway somehow condoned Bin Laden. Galloway set the record straight. Hence the applause for him which annoyed Hitchens.

    • @duderyandude9515
      @duderyandude9515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dashong8912 I don’t think he was right about everything.

    • @dashong8912
      @dashong8912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@duderyandude9515 No one is right about everything but in this case he made a very good point. Hitchens tried to interpret things one way only but failed.

    • @Anor999
      @Anor999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Galloway is a pig. And a nasty one.

  • @johnruggiero4205
    @johnruggiero4205 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    It’s a shame a lot of Christopher’s arguments were timely, and thus not as useful today. Then again, he has arguments that are Timeless. He was the rarest of birds. He’s missed!

    • @Martoto94
      @Martoto94 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Eh. He was alright. Had some good points every now and then, which he always expressed extremely eloquently winning himself a lot of less educated supporters enthralled by his skillful oratory, but was in so many ways a hypocrite and just so smug and grandstanding on so many occasions. I mean he even defended and downplayed waterboarding as a torture method until agreeing to get waterboarded himself. So yeh, intelligent man, great public speaker, did some solid journalistic work and had some good points here and there, but massively overrated in general.

    • @CharlieQuartz
      @CharlieQuartz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@Martoto94 You might have had the glimmering dust speck of a point if you hadn't shot yourself in the foot with the "less educated supporters" comment, snubbing the outpouring of respect and love for him by intellectuals such as Salman Rushdie, Martin Amis, Ian McEwen, Richard Dawkins, and Douglas Brinkley.

    • @AFMMarcelD
      @AFMMarcelD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CharlieQuartz Indeed, and let’s not forget Lawrence Krauss and Sam Harris.

    • @Dilkingt0nne
      @Dilkingt0nne 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CharlieQuartz Richard Dawkins is a sort of “pop” scientist he’s not an intellectual

    • @billbatson6165
      @billbatson6165 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CharlieQuartz I believe "less educated" here means not being knowledgable enough about the political and religious issues rather than possessing poor academic qualifications and on this ground his argument is hard to contest. One of Hitchen's pals Amis already disagreed with him on atheism, or on Hitchens instantiation of it. I believe he mentioned this in a talk regarding his latest book of essays.
      Krauss, Dawkins and Harris are not academically qualified to speak on theological matters (but I personally grant them liberty to converse on these matters)
      Consult any peer-reviewed journal and you won't find any reputable scholar trying to entertain their arguments and you can dispute this point by suggesting that they write for the public, but literature written for mass consumption has always had a space in these sorts of academic journals. Dawkins especially makes mistakes in his scholarship that deal serious injury to his arguments, the greatest example I can give concerns the Assyrians in his book Outgrowing God. A monumental misunderstanding of historical context places his opinions in serious jeopardy.
      Harris similarly fails to investigate the psychological impact of religious belief and from what I've researched, has published very little pertaining to his degree so exactly what use is his Ph.D in Neuroscience?.
      I have no idea of the work Rushide and McEwan have done so I won't comment, though I am familiar with them.

  • @user-wk8fr7sb7r
    @user-wk8fr7sb7r วันที่ผ่านมา

    As much as I hate Galloway, it’s so important to listen to the ‘other side’
    I feel you learn so much from these talks.

  • @gcdeegan
    @gcdeegan 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I feel vindicated that I always taught Hitchens was a war dog and yet he always spoke of religion as a driving force for all wars

  • @MQ.13000
    @MQ.13000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Galloway reads it inside out, Hitchens it's what I say it is

  • @puddintame6310
    @puddintame6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Hitchens is smarter than Maher's entire staff of writers who write the words he says.

    • @mingus4932
      @mingus4932 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      He was a drunk and fool playing court jester for vanity fair crowd. A sellout ex leftist with no moral compass, only cheap jokes and cheap snide quips.

    • @Hirnlego999
      @Hirnlego999 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hitchens hated Kissinger but loved the neocons. Maybe not loved but they are criminals of the same range.

    • @puddintame6310
      @puddintame6310 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mingus4932 If he was an ex-leftist, he couldn't be that much of a fool.

    • @troubadour0663
      @troubadour0663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@puddintame6310 Nah. He was leftwing to his dying days. He was wrong about the Iraq war as we all know now and that was a sore point that divided him from his contemporary leftists.

    • @2russo.phobic4u
      @2russo.phobic4u 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@mingus4932 And yet you are here whining about him? When he died millions cried. When you die not a soul will care...

  • @ezragoldberg3132
    @ezragoldberg3132 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When Hitchens mentions an Islamist Attack in 1788, is he referring to the Barbary Wars and the taking of Christian merchants as Slaves?

    • @Cartoonman154
      @Cartoonman154 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Also known as the white slave trade.

  • @Godzillaearth-y7h
    @Godzillaearth-y7h 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    This aged well considering how they found those so called weapons of mass destruction

    • @FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000
      @FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you read "the bomb in my garden"?

    • @High_Priest_Jonko
      @High_Priest_Jonko 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They removed a dictatorship and also all the major suppliers of nukes in the Middle East, black markets

  • @alnotbiggaytho7124
    @alnotbiggaytho7124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    4:50 Hitchens' is calling Algerian pirate attacks on an American ship in the Mediterranean the first Islamic attack on the US...

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They used to raid the Irish coast as well. They didn’t have a navy to see them off so many slaves were taken, many places ransacked.
      Arabs also began the slave trade!
      Mind you Western countries enslaved more from 18th century on.

    • @sof553
      @sof553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@garymorgan3314 slight exaggeration there. There were a few noted raids around the Cork coastline but wasn’t anything like the industrious slave trade practiced by various European groups after. Both were still wrong obviously.

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sof553 That sounds fair SOF and I'm certainly no expert.
      You might appreciate the long overdue publication in Britain of ' Capitalism and Slavery' by Eric Williams. After a mere 80 years when Warburg spurned the chance. February 24th.

    • @sof553
      @sof553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@garymorgan3314 thanks for the suggestion I’ll look into it.

    • @craigbritton1089
      @craigbritton1089 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was an Islamic attack. Read the diplomatic exchange when the US ambassador stated we were secular and not a Christian nation opposed to them.
      Being secular was also grounds according to the Koranfor attacking our ships said the Arab/ Islamic ambassador

  • @EugVR6
    @EugVR6 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thats two big minds locking horns together!

  • @titteryenot4524
    @titteryenot4524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @0:49-1:07 This reminds me of Walt Kelly’s line: ‘we have met the enemy and he is us!’

  • @dmvzfdac
    @dmvzfdac 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It’s interesting that Hitchens was shown to be wrong yet people still talk about how he’s needed in some way.
    All of the examples he gives of us ‘helping’ countries didn’t help at all, in fact caused harm.
    He turned neo-con as a career choice. He knew there was way too much competition on the left and he wouldn’t stand out so he just made right-wing arguments like the nonsense about the pirates. Every country uses/or did use pretexts for violence. The west certainly does.

    • @MattTheGunner
      @MattTheGunner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Oh dear. Delusion on display folks.

    • @scathachmuirisc7149
      @scathachmuirisc7149 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@MattTheGunner What about your delusions? Perhaps you could enlighten us on those?

    • @cockoffgewgle4993
      @cockoffgewgle4993 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      9/11 terrified him and turned him into a raging war criminal.
      Yet he can't understand the same dynamic applying to other countries. Being victimised by violence and terrorism fill you with rage and fear and makes you more predisposed to violence and terrorism.

    • @farzanamughal5933
      @farzanamughal5933 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@MattTheGunnerNot at all

    • @agt155
      @agt155 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The West is wrong when it:
      Intervenes in Iraq
      Partially intervenes in Libya
      Doesn't intervene in Syria

  • @vegasdoug
    @vegasdoug 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Poor Bill is way out of his depth.

  • @Erwin3333
    @Erwin3333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was Galloway on about Florida??

    • @JohnM-sw4sc
      @JohnM-sw4sc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Anti-castro Cubans who live in Miami

  • @donnermeat1145
    @donnermeat1145 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    George Galloway wiped the floor with Hitchens in the Iraq debate they had.

  • @exsalafi393
    @exsalafi393 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Oh dear, no claps for Hitchens

  • @michaelkenny8540
    @michaelkenny8540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Trying to find the full version of this and I note a lot of the deeply personal insults between Hitchens and Galloway are left out. Galloway really got to Hitchens when he reminded everyone Hitchen used to be a Marxist many years back and attacked George for being 'right -wing'. Galloway also got in a magnificent smack-down of Hitchen's for his drinking problem and the fact he is often drunk.

    • @shookcitizen9065
      @shookcitizen9065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nfplw

    • @AnkurBorwankar
      @AnkurBorwankar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@shookcitizen9065 You, sir, are a legend.
      In case his comment ever gets deleted: www.dailymotion.com/video/x2nfplw

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Galloway as of Feb 1st 2021 is allied with the Tories in opposing Scottish independence, showing how unprincipled he is. Hitchens remained a Trotskyite and his last words show him to be one even as he died he whispered "Capitalism....Downfall" his best friend Martin Amis reported. Amis is scrupulously honest.
      So you couldn't be more wrong: all Scots hate Galloway and that's quite a feat!
      Check it out, he's shown what students of him have long known: Galloway is completely unprincipled.

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      By "Right wing" Hitchens alluded to Galloway's Stalinism, as a dictator you can see why a follower could be seen as reactionary.

    • @michaelkenny8540
      @michaelkenny8540 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@garymorgan3314 You take the good with the bad. George will always be remembered for his total demolition of the arrogant US politicians who thought they could out-debate him. I reminded of Enoch Powel. He was weird with his bonkers stare but a very clever sharp man who was always being interviewed by a journalist stupid enough to think they could get one over on him. He made complete fools out of the lot of them. Powel allowed himself to become fixated and it ruined his career. He would despise all the mouth-breathers who worship him but they are too dumb to care. I personally think all Nationalism is dangerous. Nothing worse than a flag-shagger running around looking for someone to fight to prove how patriotic they are. However The gammons let the genie out of the bottle and it looks like it is going to cost them billions to relocate their nuclear bases. Not going to go down well when they start storing nuclear waste in the Home Counties!

  • @TheTempleOfBoom
    @TheTempleOfBoom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    maher shows the quality of his intellect , by quoting bush , what a dick .

  • @Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we
    @Sheisthedevilyouknowwho-ft9we 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    That was legendary at 2:02😂

  • @melo39987
    @melo39987 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Love Hitchens, he’s so needed right now.

    • @tintin1265
      @tintin1265 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No, he's so pro Zionist it's nauseating.

    • @Sosarchives
      @Sosarchives 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      for what? babbling about being anti religion in a time where it’s last needed? he’s irrelevant and has nothing interesting to say

    • @Namqula
      @Namqula 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah, the guy was a smug loser with no morals..

    • @sg-go5li
      @sg-go5li 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ll give you one better. Galloway. And he’s just been re-elected

  • @allahuackbar396
    @allahuackbar396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:55 well, now ETA is in the spanish goverment...🤷‍♂️that worked out nicely 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @memoryhero
    @memoryhero 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    George Galloway is part and parcel of the "liberal West" in the following critique. _"The liberal West views the developing world, views Muslims and the developing world with contempt. By which I mean, they actually don't regard them as being properly human. To be properly human, it seems to me, is to take moral responsibility for your actions, to be held responsible. That is what, you know, that's one of the things that make us different from animals, our sense of moral responsibility. And the liberals in the West do not think that Muslims or anyone in the developing world has moral responsibility. They think that everything they do is explained by what's done to them. And consequently, it seems to me, you cannot get more profoundly racially prejudiced than that."_ - Melanie Phillips

  • @stevem8789
    @stevem8789 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wonder where he is right now ?

  • @harryantino
    @harryantino 3 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Both men are actually right in many ways

    • @ballerstalin5346
      @ballerstalin5346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Both are left.

    • @oninasrullah7757
      @oninasrullah7757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ballerstalin5346 why, because he is saying things u dont want hear.

    • @ballerstalin5346
      @ballerstalin5346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@oninasrullah7757 both are left.

    • @vergil1155
      @vergil1155 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@ballerstalin5346 not Hitchens. He was classic Liberal.

    • @Bug-sg1li
      @Bug-sg1li 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But one is warmongering.

  • @TheNationalien
    @TheNationalien 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Now with the perspective of current times you can see Galloway was closer to the truth and as much as I admired Hitchens view on religion he is acting as a total white imperialist here plus the discussion of the Iraq war and others as if there is justification for the atrocities committed on these countries by the west especially NATO stinks of arrogant elitism and superiority

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're babbling nonsense.

  • @jezcorrigan651
    @jezcorrigan651 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The difference in British and American humour
    Hitchens makes a subtle dry joke
    Maher has to verify to everyone “he’s making a joke!”

  • @00bikeboy
    @00bikeboy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a fantastic panel.

  • @harrydrake4173
    @harrydrake4173 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    If Galloway was right, how do you explain outfits like Boko Haram?

    • @adamp2426
      @adamp2426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      The same way you explain groups like lords resistance army.

    • @My-cat-is-staring-at-you
      @My-cat-is-staring-at-you 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's called having an underdeveloped region full of folks with little to no opportunity compared to regions that, while part of the same country, are noticeably different in culture.

  • @taunteratwill1787
    @taunteratwill1787 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    The time that Bill Maher felt the need to interrupt up with stupid questions when smart man where talking. 😎

  • @glennarcher2988
    @glennarcher2988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bill Maher was lucky to be part of this debate

    • @indigocheetah4172
      @indigocheetah4172 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He is the worst presenter I have seen.

  • @51gan788
    @51gan788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Galloway's argument have aged so much better

    • @jidgeboyo4176
      @jidgeboyo4176 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      wised-up remark

    • @RikerLovesWorf
      @RikerLovesWorf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Standing on the side of fascists and calling it just.

    • @51gan788
      @51gan788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RikerLovesWorf you'll have to point me to the part where he does either

    • @user-ue4rd1mf1v
      @user-ue4rd1mf1v 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were incorrect then as they are now. Read Ayaan Hirsi Ali's analysis of jihadist hatred for the West and 9/11 to get an accurate picture. Galloway is dangerously naive. ( his anti western rhetoric is also embarrassing and shameful.)

    • @axaeyexus
      @axaeyexus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@51gan788 he literally shills for Arab colonialists.

  • @chowdamcsketties5670
    @chowdamcsketties5670 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Im with the audience

    • @Anor999
      @Anor999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're an imbecile.

  • @stewartmcneill2262
    @stewartmcneill2262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good old hitch 72 mother in laws crack me up

  • @NewFangledGizmo
    @NewFangledGizmo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maher calls him Chris...that will never do

  • @jamesandrews8698
    @jamesandrews8698 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Geaorge galloway is tha only man that coukd hitch slap hitchens. Much love and respect to both.

  • @MelodyMan69
    @MelodyMan69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    When your up to your ass in Aligators, its good to remember that the object of the exercise was to Drain the Swamp!

    • @jasonhiggins6431
      @jasonhiggins6431 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ummmm awkward Terry when after 10 days there’s still nobody telling you that’s a brilliant comment 😂😂😂

    • @MelodyMan69
      @MelodyMan69 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jasonhiggins6431
      Jason, so why are you so fuc##ng interested.
      Why do you need to comment on it.
      This is not a competition.
      If your brains do not have any ability to understand the meaning of that Marketing Education tool I used in comment then best you shut your face.

  • @williamloh9018
    @williamloh9018 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Clash of Titans...Katty also good...as is BM. Miss this stuff...and CH later admitted this was his biggest mistake. Thanks...!

    • @Wildfan-sg3fh
      @Wildfan-sg3fh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When did Hitchens make that admission?

    • @williamloh9018
      @williamloh9018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wildfan-sg3fh Not sure...but it was in a TV interview. Must be able to search for it...will look.

  • @Cinepobrefilmfestival
    @Cinepobrefilmfestival 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bill has always been a champion of the world's number one profession.

  • @plumlogan
    @plumlogan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Hitchens' elegent to correct ratio does not align in the way we'd like to remember

    • @PatTigue
      @PatTigue 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nag nag nag nag

  • @benstevinson764
    @benstevinson764 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Rest in Peace Hitch!!! ❤️

    • @ga4214
      @ga4214 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      😂😂 what? He believes he has no soul 😂😂

    • @benstevinson764
      @benstevinson764 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ga4214 the Soul is the Essence of you

    • @TranscendentLion
      @TranscendentLion 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-cp6rh7pf5hYou love the idea of someone being eternally tortured? I'd suggest you get some help as a matter of urgency.

    • @qureshib61
      @qureshib61 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No chance in his pitiful grave

    • @furiousinsects6386
      @furiousinsects6386 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ga4214I also don't believe in soul. There is no evidence of soul.

  • @nishchaybhuta6538
    @nishchaybhuta6538 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Philosophy vs reality.
    Reality should win always

  • @jmgresham93
    @jmgresham93 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh, how Maher has changed. The fairness in Islamic society does not exist. Global Islam would violate human rights and the morality of rationalists because not everyone wants to be muslim and discriminated against for not being one. The morality of individual rationalists and muslims is embedded in their ways of life because of their indigenous cultures, creativity and biases that makes them unique.

  • @JayeshPatel-ct5ps
    @JayeshPatel-ct5ps 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If you were to write down what Hitchens is saying, you could quite easily think they were words spoken by Mike Pompeo, Donald Rumsfeld, or Elliott Abrams.

    • @jamesandrews8698
      @jamesandrews8698 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ouch 😂

    • @rishabhaniket1952
      @rishabhaniket1952 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. To group or generalise anything with your perceived polarised sense of what is totally evil is a sign of weak intellect and dumb woke extremism.

    • @boliussa
      @boliussa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You write "If you were to write down what Hitchens is saying, you could quite easily think they were words spoken by Mike Pompeo, Donald Rumsfeld, or Elliott Abrams."

  • @r1bew42
    @r1bew42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Mahyer is tying to get laughs. INFUCKINCREDIBLE .

    • @gofindyourself6568
      @gofindyourself6568 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      yes - ruins his own show. I find this kind of show unwatchable. talking over the guests they invite on. it is insulting to the guest and infuriating the audience.

    • @cheryal6661
      @cheryal6661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maher is such a rube. Ah well. Not everyone ages gracefully.

  • @FridayNightFilmsCA
    @FridayNightFilmsCA 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both men are right in a lot of ways. I definitely don't think Hitchens would argue for the abolishment of the Iraqi state overnight by decree in Washington or the firing of every military men in the country. That's a recipe for disaster.

  • @azaz...
    @azaz... 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1788? wtf ? really?

    • @rsr789
      @rsr789 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What don't you understand?

  • @casrifay
    @casrifay 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Hitchens is wit but in opposing Galloway’s point he seems quite shallow at it

  • @sonnyirish3678
    @sonnyirish3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Christopher Hitchens was so wrong on Afghanistan its untrue.In 2022 history has proved him almost childish.

    • @drtn6206
      @drtn6206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      How was he wrong?

    • @mathiassvendsen6886
      @mathiassvendsen6886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was a war who lasted 20 years with nothing to show for it. Thats the prove he was wrong.

    • @sonnyirish3678
      @sonnyirish3678 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mathiassvendsen6886 Yes my friend you are right.Chris Hitchens and co love someone else's children to fight their wars.

  • @marksaville9211
    @marksaville9211 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maher called him 'Chris'. Not allowed!

  • @nickster3008
    @nickster3008 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Galloway you have pocketed bundles

  • @tylerrice7145
    @tylerrice7145 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Damn, Hitch really fell off after 9/11. Galloway was 100% in his assessment. People are radicalized for a reason. The method is different and in this case religion was used (it’s being used and has been used in the US). The important thing is to step back and ask WHY is the situation in a way that radicalizes people. Hitch completely ignored the role of US & western imperialism throughout the Middle East that has plundered and exploited that region where there is no hope left.

    • @user-cp6rh7pf5h
      @user-cp6rh7pf5h 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read shadow wars bro.

    • @conallmooney2457
      @conallmooney2457 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Unfortunately you miss the point. Islam demands complete submission of everyome and eberythimg to it.

    • @user-cp6rh7pf5h
      @user-cp6rh7pf5h 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@conallmooney2457 that's the propaganda. Now look at the high civilization of Islam in Spain and Baghdad back in those enlightened times. Jews and Christians were living there in peace. So what's your point?

    • @ibntulun9405
      @ibntulun9405 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      His little piece about the Barbary Wars is real hack stuff. You can't quote one letter from John Adams quoting one ambassador (in this case for Tripoli) in one meeting and assume it's even all that accurate, let alone that the ambassador is being serious (the same letter reveals he was happy to accept a large, personal bribe for signing a peace treaty); let alone that he speaks for Algiers, Morocco, Tunis or the Ottoman Empire as a whole over hundreds of years. Let alone going further to make a connection with 9/11. Ridiculous.

    • @DustOnCloud9
      @DustOnCloud9 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@user-cp6rh7pf5hsorry, it's not propaganda. Islam has a history of aggression from the time it was founded in the 7th century. A few cases of medieval Spain or two hundred years of golden period means nothing.
      They have been the aggressors in the middle east, north Africa, Spain, central Asia, India. In our contemporary times, they are weak,, that's all..

  • @monketstyling
    @monketstyling 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I love Hitchens, but Galloway actually owns him and is proven right.

    • @nad1ax2
      @nad1ax2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what nonsense

    • @monketstyling
      @monketstyling 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nad1ax2 same to you.

    • @sof553
      @sof553 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯

    • @craigbritton1089
      @craigbritton1089 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Islam has waged war against Christians for 1500 years.

    • @MrBannystar
      @MrBannystar 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Proven right that Western intervention is the root cause of Islamic fundamentalism? Uhhh, I think not.

  • @TheMauf
    @TheMauf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Back when there were better panels

  • @micu1544
    @micu1544 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if Christopher Hitchens would have gone full woke or right wing.

  • @UberTankred
    @UberTankred 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    This that thing Hitchens was horribly, tragically wrong about!

    • @PlayNiceFolks
      @PlayNiceFolks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'll bet you also think that Saddam didn't have chemical weapons after the 90s.

    • @garymorgan3314
      @garymorgan3314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlayNiceFolks You bet that he reckons that, Jaron.

    • @ryanx3584
      @ryanx3584 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Given Hitch's stubborness and unflinching conviction he probably would have found a way to double down, dress it in wit and sell it off to folks.

    • @Hirnlego999
      @Hirnlego999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PlayNiceFolks We know he did. Just check the receipts. The west gladly supporter the butcher of Baghdad. That doesn't mean that they were useful in 2003. They had expired.

    • @PlayNiceFolks
      @PlayNiceFolks 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Hirnlego999
      They were inert?

  • @DEWwords
    @DEWwords 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Galloway is throwing a lot of shade for terrorists. He'd be right at home today spouting his apologist nonsense.

  • @johnt8453
    @johnt8453 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The chap hosting this is pretty redundant and when he interjects he does it poorly. Three fascinating , intelligent, articulate guests with often juxtaposed positions but also with common ground should've been the discussion of the year.

  • @CruiseMo
    @CruiseMo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the one lesson here is that no matter what happens, americans will never learn from history.

  • @robertallen591
    @robertallen591 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    like a lot of free thinkers i suffer from hitchins worship, but he was wrong about many things and not as logical as i would like

  • @nathanc30
    @nathanc30 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Galloway on bin laden. At the time Russia was invading Afghanistan. Our war with Afghanistan was against terrorists not afghans. It went and operated quite differently. We didn't have a scorched earth policy there as Russia did.

    • @kenq7948
      @kenq7948 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Galloway is saying that America supported Bin Laden against the Russians. America created the monster.

    • @4realjacob637
      @4realjacob637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kenq7948 America was also allied with Russia and Imperial Britain.
      Not to mention that they were silent with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan until they were dragged into war.
      Foreign policy is messy. An ally can become your enemy at the drop of a hat. That's just how the world works

    • @kenq7948
      @kenq7948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@4realjacob637 Lets not get started on a list of the monsters around the world America has created and/or supported. I don't have all night

    • @losttango
      @losttango 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think that's a misrepresentation of Russia's Afghan intervention. Their aim was to try and stabilise the country, after a coup by pro-Soviet military officers and attempts to modernise and secularise had run into resistance from rural Afghans and threatened a civil war. They executed the 'modernising' leader and installed someone they felt could unify the country. Granted they were then more brutal than the US subsequently was, but a matter of degree rather than essence.

    • @losttango
      @losttango 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But as Hitch says, Galloway didn't oppose that intervention, which was as damaging as the US invasions have been.

  • @srbaruchi
    @srbaruchi 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hitchen's hatred of "Islamic fascism" (a very real thing) drove him to supporting America's illegal, unpopular, and horrific war against the sovereign nation of Iraq -- which, although an awful dictatorship, was a secular state opposed to Caliphate-seeking jihadists.

    • @boliussa
      @boliussa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no he also didnt like saddam

  • @tuomasmattila283
    @tuomasmattila283 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    when bush said "where are on a crusade, you knew that we are fucked, so long we have religions we do not see peace

  • @pulgasari
    @pulgasari 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The point when Hitchens had truly lost it. Galloway speaking sense here, and Hitchens acting like a child.

    • @handsomelyditto4215
      @handsomelyditto4215 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      other way around

    • @ibadrizvi5740
      @ibadrizvi5740 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@handsomelyditto4215You should hear what they are saying instead of just paying attention to the joke

    • @ow2665
      @ow2665 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      George Galloway doesn’t understand that a vast swathe of Muslims want to see a Muslim world and will do anything to achieve it. Hitchens doesn’t understand that the west has given them the fuel for their Islamic propaganda machine by conducting illegal wars in Iraq

  • @stev1963hit
    @stev1963hit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Hitchens was a master at destroying religious superstition but he ties himself in knots on politics,as exposed here by a man not fit to wipe his shoes

    • @godisbollocks
      @godisbollocks 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      What knots? The mere mention of the fact that it was Islam that started this fight, not the US, and that the Ottoman Empire initiated the conflict on explicitly theocratic grounds was more than enough to bury all of Galloway's bleating, ten times over.

    • @moeezawan2329
      @moeezawan2329 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@godisbollocksOttomans were bullying everyone in middle ages just US is doing now ....in case you're unfamiliar with human history bullying is what superpowers do..

    • @Mandems973
      @Mandems973 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed. Only people who agree with Hitchens are the ones who never took the time to study Islam or get to know Muslims or live in in a Muslim country.

    • @angloirishcad
      @angloirishcad 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Galloway (who is a revolting individual and a traitor to the west) is on pretty firm ground when he cites Iraq and Palestine as useful recruiting tools for political Islam.
      By Hitchen's logic the war on terror should still be going on as muslims should still be trying to creat the caliphate and drive out western influence. This isn't happening, so factors other than Islamic doctrine are clearly pertinent. Hitchens biggest hatred was religous doctrine and it shows here at the expense of political nuance@@godisbollocks

    • @sohrabansari4970
      @sohrabansari4970 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Mr Galloway can not only wipe his own shoes, he can wipe the floor with people like hitchens or mahers etc.