How-To Bronco: Lift Kit Options
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- On this episode of Bronco How-To: How to Lift, Loren and I are going to try and walk you through the monumental task of deciding which lift option is right for you and your Bronco.
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Great video full of information. Just a note for lifting with coilover shocks such as King Shocks. When you buy a King coilover Shock for the front of the Ford Bronco it is about 1.10" longer than the factory SAS coilover and at least 1.25" longer than the factory Badlands coilover. So at full droop the King shock will increase the CV angle to a extreme angle no different than 1" spacer lift installed on top of the factory coilover. No one seems to talk about this issue. However the Fox coilover has mirrored the factory length coilover for the SAS and Badlands. So the Fox coilover will not increase CV axle angle at full droop as the King coilover does. Now King states that the increased angle is acceptable, however this should be mentioned when discussing lifts and options.
Youre right. It's not something brought up often at all, but droop is droop, no matter how you get it, right? Via spacers, or extended travel shocks.
@@Sitruc_btb Yes droop is droop, however the more droop added by increased installed length of coilover increases CV angle. Increased CV angle is a killer. Just adding 1” in length wether it be by spacer or coilover results in a terrible CV angle at full droop. This is what is not being talked about. The factory Badlands or SAS front coilover is ~ 23.5” fully extended. People need to check their CV angle at full droop after adding length, they may be shocked. I know I was. If your buying a coilover shock ask what the extended length is.
Great video! It’s good to hear from professionals that know this inside and out. I’m definitely going with a coil over lift from Fox, King or Bilstein. Thank you guys!
To my knowledge, Ford Performance now has a path to getting 37" tires and if installed by Ford comes with a factory 3 year /36k miles warranty
I might build one out eventually but my levelled Sasquatch Badlands with 35x12.5 is a real sweet spot because I drive mine over 30 000miles/year
Awesome video guys thanks… I have a 2023 bronco Sasquatch 4 door with the 2.7 I want to do a leveling kit because I hate it when they don’t sit level. Should I have any concerns & is there a kit you guys recommend? If you could get back to me on this that would be great. Thanks…
This is a fantastic video! Thanks for putting it together.
Informative and NOT boring - great job guys!🤙
Glad you enjoyed it!
Running the Eibach Sasquatch 2.3" lift springs and wish they took the weight of my bumper and winch better but so far so good.
You did just the springs and not the complete strut?
@@wheelerk2012 yes, eibach has lift springs just for the Sasquatch struts
Will installing longer control arms with a spacer lift negate some of the negatives of using spacers?
Nice. Will you have a lift kit with Fox Internal Bypass shocks?
I would really like to hear your thoughts on the eibach Pro Lift kit (2" Springs ONLY) on SAS Bronco, several others have also asked?
Daa, just dawned on me, all the methods of lift covered in the video are generic, no harm no foul, they don't want to shade or promote a specific vendor such eibach as an example only. Darn it.
Whats the build sheet on that 2dr? Thats how i want my 2dr to look minus the fenders. If my bronco ever actually gets in production that is.
@Vaughn Gittin Jr. Do your Funhaver widebody fenders work on 35's? My current build is a Wildtrak 2 door stock. I plan on doing a mid travel kit with those sexy fenders and was curious if the clearance still works with 35's. I know your Funhaver build is on 37's and based on this informative video I don't feel the need to go 37's.
Yes it does. Stay tuned
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Like the info and looking forward to more. But you two seem a bit stiff when reading off a script. Also Vaughn seemed to be overly boosted on audio or just in that sort of shouting voice.
Yea it’s a lot of information…… so we had to write our scripts to not be filming for 3 days! Hhaha
@@VaughnGittinJr It was a surprisingly dense video for 13minutes. Also hey if that's all of the minor issues were then it can only get better from here on out!
Great vid, guys. I basically just want to get back the clearance I lost on my 2 door Heritage from having it loaded for overlanding. And currently, it hits the bump stops too easily when loaded.
1.5" perch collars sounds like a good solution.
Been cramming learning about lifts before I make the move on my Wildtrak. This is the most helpful video I’ve ever seen. Thank you so much. Your visuals helped immensely.
I don’t know what to do with my hands 😂😂
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THEY,RE TO OLD THEIR PEE PEE,S !! LOL
"WHY ARE WE YELLING?"
Great video! SVC perch collars here. Ride is only slightly firmer than stock and it gave me around 2” of lift. Very happy with it thus far. Maybe one day I’ll run into you guys at Uwharrie.
That's great to hear! Are you on bronco6g? Seriously considering
@@jaycoomar4165 yep, my username is MWILD
Super Informative, I learned a lot from this video!
I have a Base manual I'm just going with the 2" spacer lift and 35" Mickey Thompson Baja Boss. If anything breaks I'll just fix it. Problem solved.
Great video, couple semantic nitpicks: Perch collars don't change the spring rate, but they do change the preload so its true that it may ride a bit harsher, but not the same as a higher spring rate. Also, with shocks use the term "Damping" not "Dampening" Dampening would be if you were going over something with a wet rag.
Great stuff Vaughn and Loren!!! There was one Lift mod you guys did not cover :) I am installing an Eiback Pro Lift kit (Springs ONLY) on my SAS Bronco. It will lift it by approx 1.5 Inches all around. I am also installing a rear ICON Track Bar and a set of Johnny Joint rear trailing Links (upper and lower). If you do have some time, would you explain how this would all this affect my Bronco geometry and am I doing the right thing? It would be greatly appreciated, especially coming from Pros such as yourselves.
I was wondering about these too - just had them installed a few weeks ago.
Great introduction,presentation and concise clear content in this video.. thanks for taking time to educate.
Always providing value to the community. Thanks guys!
This is one of the most informative videos I've seen on such a subject. I'm glad you warned your viewers about the dangers of coloring outside the lines. On that same line of logic, this is likely to impact your warranty from Ford. If you get work done from a reputable shop they may include their own warranty on their parts and labor. Is that your experience?
It would be cool if you guys can go through the variety of coilovers available for these and point out what's unique about each and what each are good for. Probably won't happen because of brand issues, but y'alls experience would be very valuable.
@VaughnGittinJr Great video, I learnt a lot!
One thing that wasn’t clear to me is, what happens if I put a taller or stiffer spring with my current shock? I am in Australia and have a Ranger Raptor, (apparently built on the Bronco foundation) it comes with the Fox 2.5 Live Valve shocks… a lot of us are hunting for options to lift these, however due to the current set up being very good we are at a loss as to which direction to go. I’m leaning towards changing out the springs for a taller/stiffer spring, I understand that I will have to adjust the ride height to ensure the Fox Live Valve operates within the correct range. Is there anything else I need to consider, that a taller spring will can affect?
I bet that fun haver LT kit is going to cost well north of $20K. Doubt there's going to be much interest, especially after a year of waiting for it to be available for purchase.
Hello Guys, I saw your video and it was informative. However, I am still unsure of what is needed. My daughter has a 2023 Bronco Big Bend and is into camping and hiking. I would like for her to modify her Bronco with a lift and slightly bigger tires just incase she visits some areas that require easy to moderate obstacles to get to the campsite or hiking trails. What are your recommendations? Please note that I am not looking for her to modify her Bronco and do what you guys have shown on your video. Any and all information you can provide me would be greatly appreciated.
I've been looking for a video just like this... Thanks!
Will we see from Fun haver Long Travel Kit?
If it drops 1" from a winch & bumper and 1" spacers are used to compensate, is the geometry still affected?
Why are you yelling bro? CAPS LOCK
What about the Eibach Pro lift springs? Would that limit my down travel after install?
I have a set of the Fox 2.5s on order from a local shop. Can't wait to get it. Currently using the Zone Adventure series (spacer lift) to fit the BFG KM3 37s. I chose the KM3s for 37s specifically because they are on the lighter side and I loved them on my old 4Runner.
Excellent video. Really explains what I want to buy when searching for a lift! Thanks guys.
Thoughts on the zone off road or Iconn lifts? I feel like a 2 inch lift goes a long way on the Squatch but nervous to pull the trigger on moderate off-roading.
New Bronco Outer Banks owner here. What do you guys think is the best lift kit for cosmetic reasons? I don't plan on doing much off-roading any time soon (even though I'm thirsting for it) but I want my Bronco to look good while driving it. I was looking into 1-inch lift kits but I figured I'd ask the community and professionals what you'd think.
Just bought mine last week, let me know what you find! Looking to replace the stock wheels for all black ones with bigger tires and maybe a 1-2 inch lift
What is the maximum height I can get with a coilover as far as lift height..3.5"-4"?? Or do I still have to install an aftermarket lift kit..thanks guys
I would not suggest more then 2” on coil-overs alone.
Very nice video. What are your thoughts on the Eibach Coilover Lift System?
Thank you so very much!! I was going to buy my wife an Explorer St or Edge,till she saw the Bronco.. She blew me away wanting a 4 door,Race Red Outer Banks,with parttime 4wd.. I am thinking just the first spacers you showed..we are going for looks not off road.. thank you so much!!
Great explanation fellas, thank you!
For me the sasquatch is plenty. I remember looking at what was then the most off road capable from factory jeep rubicon, for a few years, wondering when I get it with the stock 33's how I would lift it and add 35s or 37s... Then ford offered sasquatch package. Bronco was my answer!
I'm scared to do anything to it now.
Great video. Really well done and informative.
Excellent video and information. Definitely a lot to consider if one decides to lift their vehicle. Thanks.
Great info ! Appreciate what you guys are doing @RTR.
Very informative. Thanks for the great video 😊
The lift kit is gangster 🔥
Thank you Gentlemen - This information is very, very important.
Thank you that was a great video!
I welcome all replies - want to put fatter tires on a 2023 Outer Banks. Currently have stock P255/70R18 32" tires. Looking to move toward LT315. Sasquatch-esque. I believe that by going fatter, I will increase diameter - probably needing 35" tires. I want to know about required lift to accommodate that tire diameter and if I must change the wheels from 18 to 17 to do so. Thank you in advance for the guidance.
Any advice on bronco raptor that comes with BF good rich 3712 5017 tires they run small I want to put same size tire but more aggressive/mud terrain possibly Cooper STT pro but I’m concerned about the sidewall will it hit the upper arm on the front end? Since the BFG‘s run smaller I feel the tolerance will get tighter with a real size 37 any thoughts? Thanks for the thorough video👍👍👍👍👍👍
that was the most informative video about bronco upgrades iv ever seen
i have a 2021 sasquatch 2.7l black diamond that sees light off road weekly i want 37" for look and i decided on perch lift
now ill hold out for coil overs ...just need funds
then i will contact you for suggestions
@VaughnGittinJr can you tell me why there’s a fun haver symbol over the check mark of “retains factory geometry” for the coil over lifts? I just want to know if they do in fact retain factory geometry.
I wish I had seen this earlier. great info. I used a spacer lift with a collar perch to get my non sasquatch badlands to run 35's. I just wanted sasquatch height. Do you think I screwed up my bronco?
I don’t think you screwed it up. It’s just not ideal for certain situations. Just a matter of your how you are using your truck.
I installed a 1.5" spacer lift on my Badlands non Squatch. I pulled down the dust boot and inspected the upper ball joint angle while. I had the vehicle in the air. It did not appear to be contacting up on the inner collar. Mind you that's at full extension, worst case scenario.
This was helpful. Thanks.
Can anyone help. I have 2023 Badlands Bronco Non Sasquatch. I cant seem to find a 2-3 inch lift for it bc most lifts say they are for a sasquatched badlands. Ik its bc my bilstiens are taller that the lower trims but also shorter than the sasquatched ones. if anyone could help, thanks!
Awesome. My decision is to stick w my sas package. Thanks. Question. I put broncbuster braces on my tie rods. Sas no mods. Is that a problem? I was thinking extra insurance. I do moderate to difficult off roading.
Currently on 3" Ready Lift perch collar lift on 37s. Rides and drives great but with stock front springs and a winch and winch bumper, I think it sags too much and need to go with adj coilovers.
I bought a used Badlands non-sas. The previous owner added sas wheels and tires (35s). The suspension is still non-sas. From my research the non-sas badlands suspension has more articulation than sas, I think +1” up travel. Currently it bottoms out at full up travel. I love this setup. My plan is to put a 3/4” body lift to clear the 35s. If my math is right i should clear full articulation. Thoughts? By the way this Bronco is an Idaho mountain and desert rig, flexing with lockers engaged and stay bar disengaged with light throttle control. 😎 thanks for any input you can give!!!
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Hell yeah 😍😍😍😍
The aftermarket for these is still incredibly disappointing. I figured some of the biggest names in the industry would have caught up by now.
TY for the information! I'll be keeping my 2023 Wildtrak stock when it comes to suspension. The only way I'd do a lift at this point would be a full coil-over and upper control arm replacement, which is major bucks. I'll stick with my HOSS 3.0. Would love to see driving technic tips. I have a ton of track experience, but zero off-road experience.
Thanks for feedback! We are on it
@@VaughnGittinJr Looking forward to it. On the 6G Forum, many of the members notice your driving technic vs. many other TH-camrs. I know smooth inputs is the key and not bouncing. I look forward to driving tips from guys who actually know what they're doing. Great channel and products. I'm ordering the spare tire carrier and rear bumper for my Bronco as well.
I placed the order today! Got the spare tire carrier, rear bumper, molle accessory plates - three of them and the spare tire stop. Now, if Ford can just build my Wildtrak!
I’d say, if you’re actually going to off road your bronco, coil overs are your best bet. Mall crawling and light trail riding. Spacers will be more budget friendly
i want to keep my factory sasquatch bilsteins and factory bead lock wheels 0 off set
what do you think about spacer lift 2/3 inch frt & bck with control arm upgrade and relocation track bar bracket (im told ill need such)
should that be enough for 37" tires for light off road and mudding without messing up suspension geometry
i already installed bronco buster tie rod braces and have about $2000 for suspension and 2500 for tires
any suggestions or advice please
Great information, thanks guys. I am going with the BDS Fox 3.5" Coilovers. Also, is there any issue to staying with 33's with the new lift kit?
Fabtech has a spacer 3" spacer lift for the badlands (hard to come by lifts for non SQ badlands). They include new UCAs with this lift to help with new geometry as well as a rear track bar adjustment. I can find no reviews of this product. Anyone heard of or have experience with this product?
Nice video but it would be great if you actually had the lift kit for sale. The bronco has been out for a couple of years now. How do you not have the kit for sale yet.
Thank you and it dont just go for fords. people think they can just shove whatever on factory suspension because heavy duty trucks can, the reason Ram and Ford pickups can do that is because they come with solid axle front and rear and are made for loads.
Portals DO affect the steering geometry though...the scrub is greatly increased. Loren has mentioned this issue before IIRC.
OMG thank you for this video. I sell auto parts. I already have these nerds trying to do things as cheap as they can. Please make it clear that they can't buy this stuff at car quest or advance, or even napa auto parts. Please please please.
Excellent Video! Thank you for the info and cheater charts! #overlandclaw
I'm trying to catch the Fun Runner LT at Uwharrie one day. It looks like a monster.
Y’all are killing me tho for REAL, I’m holding cash for the mid travel kit and those fenders!
Thank you! We are doing the best we can to get them out!
Would love to see an in-depth look at the 2-Door Fun-Haver.
When are the funhaver kits going to be available?
Lol this is just a 15 minute safety warning.
Great info guys! 🤘🏻
When is the two door wide body kit for sale?????
They are not going to listen or hear this message.
How can I get a monster energy hats
Superb video!
Very informative. I 'd love to run into y'all out at Uwharrie sometime.
Maybe one day!
Need this for Baja
ill just buy an FJ... never hear so many stipulations
Bring your FJ on 37’s out with us sometime!
awesome thanks for the knowledge
What about lifting with just upgraded springs?
Would probably be similar to having the perch collars.
How about wheel spacers on a sasquatch?? Good or bad?
theirs nothing wrong with a good Hubcentric wheel spacer
Drift cars, jeeps you name it you can use Hubcentric wheel spacers with no issue.
Fantastic vid...
Awesome vid!
Is the full Long Travel and portals kit going to be available for the 2 door?
Yes
@@VaughnGittinJr awesome. Time to start budgeting.
Crazy to think that this many people need educated in suspension no no’s
The bronco is creating a lot of new people looking for fun Offroad. Not everyone knows the ins and outs
@@VaughnGittinJr I know, it’s definitely brought a wave of new people, just crazy to think about it though. It’s a great educational vid though 👍🏻. People should really do their research before buying aftermarket parts. It’s cringing to watch TH-cam vids of people just throwing on any aftermarket part to make a video then people complain about why their stuff breaks 🤦🏼♂️ and blame on the vehicle and says it’s garbage.
When is the two door wide body kit for sale?????
Should be January at the latest. We are test fitting fender liners in the next week.
@@VaughnGittinJr yes!!!!!!!!
Lowering kit options!
😂 no
Good video