Pokemon Translator Names Lost Pokemon Ft. Nob Ogasawara & Lockstin
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 เม.ย. 2021
- We talk to ex-Pokemon translator Nob Ogasawara about what he would've named these lost Pokemon.
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Voice Over by Lockstin
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Video Editing by TheCartoonGamer
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All other other artwork by Rachel Briggs: / raciebeep
Nob on Twitter: / dougdinsdale
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Thank you for all your lovely comments.
I'm reading them all.
I can't believe your love has endured for so long.
It is deeply humbling. I'm honored to have written for you.
I hope you are staying safe and healthy!
Thanks for being so generous with your time Nob. Really loved making this video :)
ありがとうございます。
Nob, you're a living legend! And this video was amazing, everyone involved did a great job. This is going to be one of the most important videos that ever comes from this channel.
Nob, your idea for the Vulpix line and their names representing the Roman numerals matching the number of tails they have is amazing, I will forever use those as the nicknames now!
Nob's still got it. All of these names are top notch and natural sounding.
Ron I will always treasure your reaction video for BDSP and Legends. I watched it like 8 times, it cracked me way up.
@@DJIVision yeah bro his reaction was gold the way he was so happy to wtf
Don't you mean _Notcheral_ sounding?
AHAHAHA
See? It's a portmanteau of "Nob" and "Natural"
Cuburn was my fav
I think you mean all of those names are 'Nob Totch' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Always a pleasure! And I agree with a lot of the comments. These names are really good, and even feel like they fit right in with the earlier generation's naming schemes.
It woulda been cool to see these come to fruition, I agree.
Thanks for comin on Lock :)
I remember u. I saw u in this video
You are like matpat but better!! nice
My only gripe is your horrible pronunciation of lycanthropy. XD Lie-CAN-thruh-pee
Did you hear that? It was the sound of dozens of fan hacks being simultaneously updated.
Yeah 😂 they need to update especially seeing these lost pokemon ☺️.
Gosh I hope so
Did u hear that it's the sound of millions of cease and desists from Nintendo and gamefreak lol fuck ur fangames lmao
@@nascour5991 😖😩😨😭
@@nascour5991 Nintendo/TPC rarely gives a shit about fan hacks in particular. It's usually fan games that draw their ire.
Nob's a good lad
slob on mah knob, like corn on the cob
No she’s not. Mama is garbage
@@BBWahoo check in with me, and do your job LOL
Nob's unofficial names are so good
he actually put a lot of effort into them
so cool
Love content like this, genuinely informative and sheds a light on development that we rarely see or hear about. You're a good man Nob!
mr rumble tumble himself
The Drift King himself
Yo the living tool in the flesh
Good to see old Nob is keeping well. If by some chance he's reading this, thanks for writing so much of my childhood and countless others. Your name always popped up in the credits and it was so distinctive I remembered it all these years. Hope you're enjoying life
He very well may have read it, I suspect he has 😶🌫️
Editing all those images together and zooming in/out was a borderline nightmare, but it was worth it!
Woohoho! Hey gamers! It's your cartoon pal bootleg Pichu! Don't forget to wash your mouth!!
good job, turned out great
Definitely, this was a great watch, kinda wish some of these Pokemon Showed up in later Gens, like I remember hearing that Gen 2 originally had the Grass Type Eevee Evolution but was cut and repurposed for a later Generation which I find interesting to say least and it at least shows that Game Freak are able to recycle some cut ideas into later games, so anything is possible.
Your masterful editing added pizzazz and drama to what could have been a dry, academic reading. Thanks!
@@nobogasawara9253 Ahhh!!! Why thank you so, so much! It is an honour to hear that from you!!!
Nob is clearly a master of his craft. The fact that he can put 2 or more meanings behind a pokemon's name and make it sound good is incredibly impressive. What a legend!
Nob's translations were perfect but can we all appreciate Rachel's art? They are just as great as Ken Sugimori's
Rachel is amazing she gave those sprites life
s i m p
@@akalyx I get it. I ain't laughing. But I get it.
@@akalyx stfu lol, dudes just complimenting her for making some great art
@@akalyx Spell it the right way coward haha
Yes, I love Rachel's art! It's so good!
So wait... a descendant of Emperors.... translated Pokemon??? And not that long ago... just a few generations his senior... his family were royalty.... in the 20th century.... meaning his grandpa was proper royalty...... and he added to his family legacy the honor of translating Pokemon???
Wow.... just wow...
They weren't royalty in the 20th century. They were nobility. The emperor he is descended from is Seiwa who reigned in the IXth century. It's not uncommon for the nobles to be all related to their king/emperor in some way due to centuries of arranged mariages. It doesn't mean that they would be considered royalty today. Only the first few of their ancestors were and after enough generation they slipped into regular nobility. The only Japanese royals in the 20th century are the direct relatives of the past four emperors.
To give you a bit of perspective on how ridiculous it would be to consider every descendant of a king as royalty, you should know that it was calculated that most Europeans and Americans from both north and south America were descendants of emperor Charlemagne due to how many generations passed since his reign. Charlemagne is about as old as emperor Seiwa so if we were to consider every descendant of Charlemagne as royalty then half of the world would be french and german royalty, which is of course not aproved by monarchists from both of those countries since they have actual royals closer to the last reigning monarch like in Japan.
Wait, pokemon translator is an emperor descendant?
Yeah, yeah he is.
Yeah makes sense doesn’t it
Always was
I love how Lockstin was like "hmm, better start with the historically significant family history"
I really like all of these designs, but there's something ultra classy and eye-catching about Moibelle and Belledam.
Oh absolutely
They definitely would have been popular Pokémon. Surprised they got cut
Right? I feel robbed! They looked great!
The names are so simple yet they’re nothing short of genius
It's like they got the subordinate of the guy who's official job was to do this for a living.
I was always impressed by how appealing and descriptive the names turned out.
@@Level1Sword couldn’t have put it better myself tbh
Just imagine all these cut Pokémon acutally being in the games, they'd have an odd time fitting in, but at least they'd have cool names.
I’d still would rather have these as Pokémon compared to some of the ones we have now. They actually look original and not just items you can find around your house.
@@OUTC45T Now introducing Clippy!
This Pokemon looks like a paperclip!
Mostly because it is...
@@MadDoofer wouldn’t doubt it
I see Wearlycan being a fast Ice-type so it could probably do some damage in Smogon OU
@@MadDoofer Man, I can't wait for the new webdings Pokemon
I now declare Vulpiii, Vulpvi and Vulpix the canon names of this line.
Not gonna lie, I agree with his regret that he didn't have the idea of the Roman numerals back then.
Warfurs and Wearlycan could have worked if they just changed the wolf pelts to the Pokemon's own thick hair.
If you look closely, Wearlycan is wearing an Arcanine pelt
I'd argue that maybe that would maybe that actually happened and this evolution line got revised into Snorunt :v
That’s how I always interpreted them. I figured they were like animals that evolved fake face patterns in order to intimidate other animals.
Find it odd
Cubone wears it's mother's skull
Drifblim kidnaps children into the life beyond
Ditto is a FAILED experiment that can transform into any other Pokemon
Vanillite is ice cream
Parasect is taken over and it's body is used by the parasite
Plenty of pokedex entries explain pokemon hunting/eating other Pokemon
But a pokemon wearing other pokemon skin? Nope scrap that idea. That's going too far
Mr. Ogasawara is a treasure for agreeing to this, the names were all great and made me feel like we missed out because the pokemon were cut from the game.
Now THAT's a well-written video. I'll bet the writer's really handsome too.
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Yt broke
do you hate girls
I think so too!
@@mythicalskeleton1546 no he just had access to the video before it was published
Having Nob give English names to all of these long-lost Pokemon was such a treat, and gives excellent insight into how they've been doing it all these years :) Thank you for doing that for al of us!
Also, shoutout to RacieBeep! Your art really helped bring them all back to life! :)
5:29 I wonder if he was subconsciously taking the "thor" from "thorax"?
I really hope GameFreak would revisit some of these older designs. They honestly hold up, and these names fit so well.
10000% AGREE!
They really do. Makes me wonder why they went with other designs like that chandelier and ice cream Pokemon...
@@reneerodriguez7368 Hey Chandelure is pretty great.
I feel like Pokémon history is being made right in front of my eyes * 0 *
Gorochu!
Rachel Briggs drawings are so good. If I didn't know better, I'd think they were official Game Freak artwork.
Yeah she really nailed the shading they used to do on the old pokemon art.
Me seeing Tyker, Coinpur, and Pupperon: *crying begins*
I hope we get a region variant of Teddiura and Ursaring one day, with them being fire types.
In a rom hack called Pokemon Blazing Emerald there's a Hoennian Teddiursa and Ursaring which are fire types
Literally live for this content, it is one of the most interesting channels out there, so good that I often rewatch old videos because I still enjoy them even if I know the facts!
Geez you need a hobby
@@thefuzzypickle8277 So do you apparently
@@thefuzzypickle8277 I'm sorry but I don't see why you would say this? I work with children for a living (which I adore) and this is one of the many things we talk about during the day. What's great about Pokémon is that all ages can sit together in a room and discuss their experiences.
@@goldkirby Thank you for your input, I have no idea what provoked such a response, I didn't mean any harm from it.
@@thefuzzypickle8277 learning facts about lost and old media is a hobby dumbo.
I always had a feeling that Girafarig was supposed to be an evolution of Wobbafet, since both are psychic and have a small head as a tail.
In a way, I feel like Bipulla would make more sense as a pre-evolution to Wobbuffet for the exact same reason. Perhaps there's an alternate universe where Bipulla has a split evolution: one into Wobbuffet (one of the ghosts got its way) and one into Girafarig (both ghosts maintain equal control).
Looks more like Wobuffet than Girafarig
To anyone looking it up, Vupliii's japanese name is "Mikon", not "Purakkusu" like it says in the video. They accidently reused the name of the last unused pokemon shown in the video
...found this out after googling Purakkusu and seen that beetle thing cover my screen on google images lmao
That was an awesome video!!! I can't believe you got Nob to name so many of these!! Also those drawings were top notch!
These names are actually pretty clever, sometimes matching three different words that make sense together into one that sounds nice. I can almost hear these pokemon repeating some of these names in the anime and they sound perfectly natural. No wonder he has so much experience under his belt. And all the new art is pretty on point, even being kind of desaturated like the original art. I honestly didn't understand a lot of the beta sprites until the artist rendition.
Overall an excellent video, very well produced.
Calm down dude
16:18 Fun fact: In Germany Ninetales is called 'Vulnona' and the 'nona' part is latin and means 'nine' or 'the ninth part'.
Regarding the prevolution for Doduo, I always took it as having only one head, but the "Pokemon" is actually three of them huddled together in a nest trying to mimic a Dodrio, its final form.
As for the baby Parasect, maybe a piece of the spore falls off its back, leading to a baby growing out of it like an egg, however a piece of the spore stays attached eventually growing and turning it into Paras and finally Parasect
The preevolution could've been, Doduno or Dodone (One / Alone)
this is so COOL!!! it's like a look into an alternate timeline of my childhood. Nob did such an amazing job with these names! I want to express my gratitude to him for his work on the series and impacting my life so much 🙏🏿 you guys are doing great with the content also!
I'm impressed with all these names. Nob brought the fire for a TH-cam video, didn't expect that.
Elegant.
I know that's an overused, pretentious thing to say nowadays. But when you can put this much thought into something and yet make it look simple and obvious. There's just no other word.
Nob's names are brilliant and elegant.
I hope the fandom adopts them, and to any fan artist out there who have lovingly recreated these sprites: I hope you'll consider putting Nob's names in the titles of your work to help them catch on.
They weren't that good dude
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Oh yeah, totes.
Tangrowth and Talon Flame. Are the shit.
This is like the culmination of all of those videos about Pokémon localization.
Surprisingly more interesting than I was expecting. It’s real neat to see the classic Pokemon naming conventions in action.
Another reason Warfurs and Wearlycan likely were cut is that about that time Digimon Adventure would've been out. Which features a shy digimon that hides its real form under a wolf pelt as one of the main characters. IE Gabumon. They likely didn't want to be seen as copying, and thus discarded the idea when they realized the similarity.
i think they recycled the idea in Mimikyu
Here's to hoping this can be the seed that influences GameFreak to release an art book.
or even make them into real pokemon
@@thellyeah To be honest... a LOT of these probably did get recycled and used in some form later. like Cubburn/Bruinus... is similar to Typhlosion and it's pre-evolutions, except with a drastically different look.
Which is ultimately something very interesting to see though. Even ideas that did get used often took a very different form when they were used.
I had no idea Honooguma was reworked into Teddiursa and that just makes me like the little bear even more
In the case of Belledam, there is actually a historical poem about a faerie called the Belle Dam. To quote Wikipedia:
"La Belle Dame sans Merci" ("The Beautiful Lady Without Mercy") is a ballad produced by the English poet John Keats in 1819. The title was derived from the title of a 15th-century poem by Alain Chartier called La Belle Dame sans Mercy.
Considered an English classic, the poem is an example of Keats' poetic preoccupation with love and death. The poem is about a fairy who condemns a knight to an unpleasant fate after she seduces him with her eyes and singing. The fairy inspired several artists to paint images that became early examples of 19th-century femme fatale iconography. The poem continues to be referenced in many works of literature, music, art, and film.
That's super interesting!
I did not know this. Thanks! LSED. I was just rolling with "belle dame" and Bedlam.
That Vulpiii to Vulpix evolution line naming is so smart, now I want it to be canon 😭
Nob's the hero i didn't appreciate enough. He created the names of so many of my favourite characters. So cool that he gave more true identity to these forgotten and secret pokemon.
Within the first minute and a half of this video it clearly states the vast majority of pokemon names were NOT named by Nob
I hereby disregard all that disclaimer and fully accept all these names onto my headcannon, thank you
3:18 Arcane + *_ARCANINE_*
Canines around the world: *Sad whimpering
I would die for baby Meowth
Also how cool is it that Nob Ogasawara is a descendant of Japanese nobility?? That's awesome!
It's ridiculously adorable and therefore needs to exist.
No it's not, nobles are scum
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 most of 'em, probably. I still think it's kinda neat tho :T
I adore this. Nob is seriously a legend in translation success stories. in my opinion, he's right up there with other fantastic translators like Ted Woolsey, Alexander O. Smith, and Michael Christopher Koji-Fox. I love to hear more about him and his methods. :)
"The existence of wolf pelts can raise some dark questions about the Pokemon world."
Yeah, such as "Since when do wolves exist in the Pokemon universe?"
"Sorry, i meant, Lycanroc pelts"
The existence of wolves is no good. But Cubone wearing the skull of its dead mom is a-okay.
@@MobBossBobRoss And then having that skull permanently merge with its head when it evolves is also perfectly fine.
@@nejiiuyn also the logical paradox that you can breed an infinite number of Cubones and not have the mother die. :p
@@marhawkman303 Makes me wonder if any of the stories are true
No one's gonna mention that Lurreel looks like Huntail? ...Fair enough
First thing i thought as well
Gotta acknowledge the “gore” part of Gorebyss’ name too
@@miked5163 yeah I suspect a lot of these ideas got later reworked into something that DID get released. Like... flaming bear? Sounds familiar.... a lot of familiar actually! Typhlosion!
Some of these are genuinely novel ideas that didn't seemingly get re-used at all. Although, I wonder if Gorochu would have actually been about the power level of Raichu, and Pikachu more like Pichu in power if it had been in Red/green.
The artist is really good at emulating old school pokemon artstyle. Great work.
also 19:32 looks incredibly cool I'm sad it will never be a thing.
Cubburn has my whole heart
Even Nob naming Pokemon as a favor is out classing some of the newer ones, still got it
I hate subscribing to stuff but this is truly going above and beyond, not only providing secret info but also generating names from a previously official source and giving some custom fanart to boot! SUBSCRIBED.
Finally so many months after the teaser on Dr Lava's instagram we have the video ! I so happy the videos came out (And even more with featuring, I really love Lockstin)
My god Nob is so friggin smart these names are so clever. Also the art is amazing props to that lady I may have to commission some art from her
I love this simple yet informative video for cut cut content of games
Edit: I would die for Smujj
It’s good to see fresh Pokémon info. I hadn’t heard this story and information before. It was well researched.
Mar also means sea in Spanish! So that would've added yet another layer to that fire/water type's name.
Finally, I've been waiting for this one
Gorochu should be a regional branch evolution of Pikachu. That would be so AWESOME!!
This was such a fun and unique idea for a video. I really enjoyed it. Stuff like this makes me appreciate DYKG a lot. Good job everyone 👏
The Italian version of Pokemon uses the english names because the translators were given the english script back when Red and Blue were getting translated. This man is a legend and i wish the best for him
Hope nob is doing alright nowdays. Loved all your translations
My goodness, all the artist’s renderings are fantastic. Kudos!
This was a really neat video, and Nob's names for all of these Pokemon seem like they would fit into their respective games.
Glad to know the process that Nob used for naming pokemon. I thought it was only 2 words used to create a name. But with some of these Pokemon, they used 3!! what a surprise!
anyway, amazing video and an awesome time. Thanks Nob for contributing. Always an amazing job!
Can we make a petition for Nob to name all the new animals we actually discover?
Such an informative and high quality video - you can clearly see the time, effort and careful consideration put into it. I hope these designs and names can make it to later games.
"Disturban" is so good, all these names are so good!
Oh my god the art is amazing and soooo nostalgic!
Wow... Nob's backstory is a perfect for a Main Character, isn't it? Protagonist or Antagonist.
Lol yes
Antagonist
Gotta give credit to my boy Dr Lava, he did so much for this video!
And truth be told, I love this so much! It is the kind of stuff that reminds me of the childhood mystery games had bag in the day, before the internet blew every detail right away.
Thanks everyone for making this video :)
Amazing video!!! love Pokemon games and this crazy nerdy pokemon content!
The art work is amazing
I heard Nob was on Something Awful.
Also imagine we got Tyker/Kotora’s line and it was the mascot instead of Pikachu.
Indeed
He wrote lots of refernces to the forums into the game themselves via NPC's
@@ilikestuff9250 source?
@@3kojimbles895 He inserted many such references in the Gen 4 games but none before for the most part
Info gotten from Bulbapedia and he has an official profile on there as well
He also posted in Chococojo's Screenshot Let's Plays back in the day (late 2006).
Hiker Nob always stood out to me because I had never heard of that name before, didn't know he was named after the translator! Super cool video, the unofficial names seem so perfect for these designs, makes me wish these pokemon weren't removed. Especially Vulpiii, I would have loved to have the Vulpix line with roman numerals.
Man thx for making this. My first game was Emerald in 05 but I was a big fan of the original run of the anime so this was awesome to see which pokemon we missed out on.
These are so, so good. Mad respect.
This is so intresting
To think good ol Nob knew of beta mons that were only recently discovered is pretty mind blowing
Okay. This is one of the coolest videos to exist on the internet. Thank you for this!!
A few of these Pokémon is really like to see actually make it into a game one day
This has to be one of the most interesting topics ever covered
Yo this is great! Exactly what I needed for my project.
Your channel is awesome, DidYouKnowGaming. Thanks for your videos and unique informative content. Love learning about secrets from my childhood games.
I really enjoyed this video, u saw that they put a lot of effort and passion into it, appreciate it. For me it felt like a fanfiction video, that became Canon hahhahaha I wouldnt mind if they put these pokemon actually in the games centuries later.
I screamed when I read Nob's name in the title
This is beautiful and so insightful. The story of Nob is so amazing almost like worthy of a bio-pic that'd be like Prince Harry becoming a Pokemon employee. Is there a compilation of all the new artwork interpretation and names of all these lost pokemon? Id love to be able to flip through images like a little pokedex?
12:53 We were so close to have Bellignan (yes this thing is my favorite cut Pokemon)
"arcane + arcanine" gave me a chuckle.
IMO, phandarin should have been called panshee
Panda + jiangxi + banshee
Where's the jiangxi on that name
@@seveneyes77 in the pronunciation
@@seveneyes77 Jiangxi is pronounced (jan-shi) like Banshee (ban-shi)
Nob is such a legend! its so cool he did this with you guys!
the name Bruinus for the scrapped gen 2 fire starter is soo sick...big brain word combination...would take it over Typhlosion honestly
Yeah! More Pokemon DYK's! And Lockstin narrating, even better!
I kinda want to see someone make a fan game with the beta Pokémon included, since we have what might as well be their English names
You said it
That means there's at least one version likely already in development
There's one! Pokemon 97 Reforged, or something like that. It released a while back, though, so it doesn't use these names, but it does use the majority of the scrapped Pokémon from the Spaceworld demo.
@@LagrimaArdiente I didn’t know that existed, that’s pretty cool
Thank you Nob for all the work you have done for us. I really appreciate the care and thought you've put into the games, names and localization. I was 8 years old in southern Ontario when I discovered Pokemon and now 23 years later, the opportunity to learn about your work is so cool! I wish you well!
Thanks Lockstin/DYKG, great content as always!
These names are so good, that is how I am going to refer to them from now on. I know it is unofficial, but it fits so well. Thanks Nobs!
Was that part about Nob Ogasawara’s family history true?
Lol yeah of course, I wouldn't just go makin that kinda stuff up outta nowhere