I just sold my 2016 Miata Sport w/maual transmission with 47,500 miles and only a few minor interior issues(the hard plastic sun visors had cracked and broke off due to probablty sun exposure and temperature changes over the seven and a half years I owned it) for $16,100 at Carvana. I then purchased a 2024 Mazda 3 sedan a few hours later. I just discovered this video and now I miss my Miata so very much already(but Im glad I made the change) I also owned an NC at one time and I agree the ND has made significant improvements to the cars design both internally and externally(apart from those poorly designed sun visors which may have been changed since 2016). The only advantage to the NC generation Sport for me was the traditional hand cranked windows and actual key start instead of push start but Im old and set in my ways. I never personally had an issue with the lack of storage space because its what I expected. There were a few instances in which I lamented the limited space but I got over it the instant I cranked the engine and began my drive. Over seven and a half years I only had to replace the tires once and at seven years I also preemptively replaced the orginal battery. Other than that I had no issues at all. I changed the oil every 6000 miles instead of the recommended 10,000 miles. I also had my first oil change at 1,000 miles to swap out the engine break in oil with new clean oil. The break in period of that first 1000 miles or so will deposit a bit of metallic debris in the original oil and is perfectly normal. I drove to Austin Texas and back to Virginia once, to and from the Atlanta area on four occasions, and five times to Myrtle Beach, SC and back. I enjoyed every mile on those long trips in the Miata(except when it rained forcing me to drive top up) The top itself, after no telling how many openings and closings was still in fantastic shape after nearly eight years.
Good honest review guys thanks! I've had my ND1 since 2022 and in 30 years of driving, it's by far the best car I've ever had. The thing that gets me is that almost ALL reviews on the Miata say how good it is. Love it!
I bought the MX5 love it! I got the touring model in automatic. I have bad knees would have love the manual but oh well. The auto has a sport mode which to me works well.
What gets me about all these car reviews on the MX-5's is when they start talking about how little space there is in the car. It's a roadster not a Cadillac! Try talking down the storage space in a $90K+ Morgan and see how much attention you get. Physics dictates, the more mass a vehicle has, the larger asses it will fit in it. These two guys are doing a good job with this review, it's honest and straight forward with explanations on deficiencies the roadster may have. It is a true ROADSTER.
It’s the answer for me! Had a 2019 for 3 years. Sold it to try other things. Really missed it and now I’m in a 2023. Deals are to be had now on leftover 2023’s got almost 7,000 off sticker.
I love (and have) the bbs/recaro/brembo package - but to call out….your comment implied that the speakers in the headrests are part of that package. They’re available without that package too There is one digital pane in the instrument cluster. The fact that the tach and speedometer are analog is a huge plus to me. Eff digitizing everything. $400 on an Axel back greatly improves the exhaust note I sold a Porsche to buy my club I also daily a gr86. Both are terrific cars
Ive been researching new cars for weeks....i literally cant find a better car for the price. Also ive had the original na miata for years and i absolutely loved that car. Thats coming from a person that used to make fun of miatas for being lame or slow. That all changed the day i drove one. Also right now my daily is a motorcycle and let me tell you this miata has much more storage than my ktm 690 so im sold on one
At least here in Colorado, we think the one to have is an RF (hardtop) specc'd like this one with the Brembo/BBS/Recaro pack. It's tough to find a better-driving sports car without spending way, way more cash
Sold all my German cars and finally realized what I was missing. Put a Goodwin racing exhaust and coil overs and Woweee! Do lower the seat with PACO seat rails for a better lower racing position.
I’ve owned an NC for several years and I daily it. It’s fantastic in every way. The power retractable hardtop is terrific. The current hardtop is a targa convertible not a 360 for total convertible experience. I’m getting a 2023 GT RF.
It's astonishing how great the Skyactiv engines are at highway speeds. We've talked to ND engineers before and they're all a very empassioned bunch. It shows in the final product for sure.
Owner of this exact ND2 Club trim in Soul Red Crystal, 2019 version. A lot of the handling quibbles with the base model are improved with just the few suspension changes on that trim and the Recaros definitely do not let you slide around. Only issues I really have are some cheap interior plastics that rattle, and which Mazda could easily address without increasing weight, they just need to insulate the backs of the trim pieces better. The car doesn’t have a competitor though, which can be both a good and bad thing. What I’d really like to see is Honda and Toyota get back on their game (the GR86 is nice, but it’s not a roadster) … somebody needs to keep Mazda on their toes and keep the future MX-5 competitive.
I'm really thinking about getting one of these, but 2 things are kinda of holding me back. 1. Infotainment isn't touch screen and has to be worked with the Dial in the middle. 2. Not having of part gage cluster digital
The Recaros are very hard on my back and rear end. I like the leather better. Brembo a re not necessary and wheels are nice BUT save money ($5k) and get the car without it.
Great review guys.I'm based in Australia and have the mid-spec 2022 Miata manual GT. I drove Club model and did not think it was worth the significant price bump for the seats, wheels and brakes. I prefer the satin finished wheels on the GT model, and by the way in the model reviewed only the front brakes are Brembos, rear brakes a standard Mazda brakes painted red. The GT interior also looks a little classier I think. I went for the soft top, did not feel the extra $$ and weight was worth it for the RF, and no regrets there at all. Just a wonderfully engineered car, period.
The drop top not only gives you a full 360 degree view with the top down, but a much bigger glovebox and storage bins behind the seats as well. It's also lighter, so a bit faster too!
Unless you're physically unable to drive a manual, this is one of those cars where you need to buy the stick. It's part of the experience, and frankly, Mazda is not a company known for great automatic transmissions built for enthusiasts. It'll be slow to shift and nowhere near as fun as a manual.
@@jasondixon9095I owned a 2007 NC automatic and I loved it. I also rented a 2016 ND club soft top with the automatic on two separate occasions and it was an absolute blast.
Thanks! The Club trim does get slightly different suspension setup, which this car has. We're actually not 100% sure who makes the damper, for all we know Bilstein could be the supplier. What really matters is that the car rides fantastically, and it's great for both daily driving and sporty, fun stuff like you see in the video!
Yes, both the club and GT trim get the Bilstein dampers if you get the manual transmission. On the ND1, only the club with manual got them (or the GT with GT-S package in 2019). Same for the LSD & shock tower brace.
Thanks for the great video! BTW if you're interested in trying out a lightly modified ND2 I'd love to show off my Lilith (2021 GT RF w/ sway bars, wider tires and wheels, & short throw shifter in Fort Collins). 😁
That freaking key is almost a deal breaker, first, its ugly, second, it's size of a flip phone, third, i got my iphone and wallet, do I really need a key that big, for such a small car all I need is lock unlock, I don't even need trunk or panic, two buttons, they could have made it size of 3 quarters.
Kinda a take here but I think we all just need to move to digital keys- car keys are too big now because of functionality like remote park/start and a physical key should only be used as a backup for when your app doesn't work. Not sure how this would contribute to weight/bloat in cars today, but keys are definitely bloated too. -Chase
Breaking news.... I have the 2023 RF in base trim and it has speakers in the headrest, don't waste money on the Bose... the regular stereo system kicks ass. Although I would recommend the Brembo brakes as the normal ones are a bit spongy (my previous car had Brembo brakes and I do feel the difference greatly). One more thing guys... in a sports car review, cup holders should not even be mentioned at all, come on. If you buy this type of car, why should you even be concerned about a piece of plastic that holds a can? Can you not live without it?
What country are you in that the RF is available in base trim? In the US, the base trim is only available with the soft top. RF is either Club or GT trim.
I just sold my 2016 Miata Sport w/maual transmission with 47,500 miles and only a few minor interior issues(the hard plastic sun visors had cracked and broke off due to probablty sun exposure and temperature changes over the seven and a half years I owned it) for $16,100 at Carvana. I then purchased a 2024 Mazda 3 sedan a few hours later. I just discovered this video and now I miss my Miata so very much already(but Im glad I made the change)
I also owned an NC at one time and I agree the ND has made significant improvements to the cars design both internally and externally(apart from those poorly designed sun visors which may have been changed since 2016). The only advantage to the NC generation Sport for me was the traditional hand cranked windows and actual key start instead of push start but Im old and set in my ways. I never personally had an issue with the lack of storage space because its what I expected. There were a few instances in which I lamented the limited space but I got over it the instant I cranked the engine and began my drive.
Over seven and a half years I only had to replace the tires once and at seven years I also preemptively replaced the orginal battery. Other than that I had no issues at all. I changed the oil every 6000 miles instead of the recommended 10,000 miles. I also had my first oil change at 1,000 miles to swap out the engine break in oil with new clean oil. The break in period of that first 1000 miles or so will deposit a bit of metallic debris in the original oil and is perfectly normal.
I drove to Austin Texas and back to Virginia once, to and from the Atlanta area on four occasions, and five times to Myrtle Beach, SC and back. I enjoyed every mile on those long trips in the Miata(except when it rained forcing me to drive top up) The top itself, after no telling how many openings and closings was still in fantastic shape after nearly eight years.
Seven and a half years and only 1 change of tires? LOL, I have to replace them at least yearly. I do drive hard a lot. (2020 ND MT Club)
Good honest review guys thanks! I've had my ND1 since 2022 and in 30 years of driving, it's by far the best car I've ever had.
The thing that gets me is that almost ALL reviews on the Miata say how good it is. Love it!
Thank you guys for this video!
I bought the MX5 love it! I got the touring model in automatic. I have bad knees would have love the manual but oh well. The auto has a sport mode which to me works well.
The interior matching door paint is not available on the lowest tier "Sport" model, only the "Club" and "GT" packages.
What gets me about all these car reviews on the MX-5's is when they start talking about how little space there is in the car. It's a roadster not a Cadillac! Try talking down the storage space in a $90K+ Morgan and see how much attention you get. Physics dictates, the more mass a vehicle has, the larger asses it will fit in it. These two guys are doing a good job with this review, it's honest and straight forward with explanations on deficiencies the roadster may have. It is a true ROADSTER.
It’s the answer for me! Had a 2019 for 3 years. Sold it to try other things. Really missed it and now I’m in a 2023. Deals are to be had now on leftover 2023’s got almost 7,000 off sticker.
I love (and have) the bbs/recaro/brembo package - but to call out….your comment implied that the speakers in the headrests are part of that package. They’re available without that package too
There is one digital pane in the instrument cluster. The fact that the tach and speedometer are analog is a huge plus to me. Eff digitizing everything.
$400 on an Axel back greatly improves the exhaust note
I sold a Porsche to buy my club
I also daily a gr86. Both are terrific cars
I can not drive my 23 MX-5 and not smile. It's impossible to not be happy while driving this car.
Ive been researching new cars for weeks....i literally cant find a better car for the price. Also ive had the original na miata for years and i absolutely loved that car. Thats coming from a person that used to make fun of miatas for being lame or slow. That all changed the day i drove one. Also right now my daily is a motorcycle and let me tell you this miata has much more storage than my ktm 690 so im sold on one
At least here in Colorado, we think the one to have is an RF (hardtop) specc'd like this one with the Brembo/BBS/Recaro pack. It's tough to find a better-driving sports car without spending way, way more cash
great in depth review guys! thank you
Thanks for watching!
Sold all my German cars and finally realized what I was missing. Put a Goodwin racing exhaust and coil overs and Woweee! Do lower the seat with PACO seat rails for a better lower racing position.
I’ve owned an NC for several years and I daily it. It’s fantastic in every way. The power retractable hardtop is terrific. The current hardtop is a targa convertible not a 360 for total convertible experience. I’m getting a 2023 GT RF.
I bought a $10, phone sized, net on amazon and velcroed it to the trans tunnel right behind the cup holder. Then get a 3 inch usb cable. Perfect.
Nice review guys, keep up the good work. Miata is always the answer.
My 2023 MX-5 regularly gets above 40mpg and the highest I've seen was 43.5mpg.. This is a combination of city and hwy miles, same trip.
It's astonishing how great the Skyactiv engines are at highway speeds. We've talked to ND engineers before and they're all a very empassioned bunch. It shows in the final product for sure.
Why do you think that Recaros and Brembo are "a must"? Are standard seats and/or brakes bad or have some other issue?
Owner of this exact ND2 Club trim in Soul Red Crystal, 2019 version. A lot of the handling quibbles with the base model are improved with just the few suspension changes on that trim and the Recaros definitely do not let you slide around. Only issues I really have are some cheap interior plastics that rattle, and which Mazda could easily address without increasing weight, they just need to insulate the backs of the trim pieces better. The car doesn’t have a competitor though, which can be both a good and bad thing. What I’d really like to see is Honda and Toyota get back on their game (the GR86 is nice, but it’s not a roadster) … somebody needs to keep Mazda on their toes and keep the future MX-5 competitive.
I'm really thinking about getting one of these, but 2 things are kinda of holding me back.
1. Infotainment isn't touch screen and has to be worked with the Dial in the middle.
2. Not having of part gage cluster digital
1. It's a touch screen when the speed is 0mph. Not while you driving.
2. It's a Miata.
For phones... do what I do... use a Samsung Flip phone... it fits perfectly in that nook under the climate controls using a short 6" USB cable 😊
The Recaros are very hard on my back and rear end. I like the leather better. Brembo a re not necessary and wheels are nice BUT save money ($5k) and get the car without it.
Great review guys.I'm based in Australia and have the mid-spec 2022 Miata manual GT. I drove Club model and did not think it was worth the significant price bump for the seats, wheels and brakes. I prefer the satin finished wheels on the GT model, and by the way in the model reviewed only the front brakes are Brembos, rear brakes a standard Mazda brakes painted red. The GT interior also looks a little classier I think. I went for the soft top, did not feel the extra $$ and weight was worth it for the RF, and no regrets there at all. Just a wonderfully engineered car, period.
The MX5 has SUPER reliability . Consumer reports. Looks like a baby jaguar. It’s been out for a while, but it’s a rarity to see one.
The drop top not only gives you a full 360 degree view with the top down, but a much bigger glovebox and storage bins behind the seats as well. It's also lighter, so a bit faster too!
Have to buy a soft top to get total top down experience. NC had a TOTAL POWER HARDTOP not the RF.
Can you do a review on the automatic version of this vehicle? Mazda, Miata, RF
Unless you're physically unable to drive a manual, this is one of those cars where you need to buy the stick. It's part of the experience, and frankly, Mazda is not a company known for great automatic transmissions built for enthusiasts. It'll be slow to shift and nowhere near as fun as a manual.
@@theoverrunofficial it can’t be bad or Mazda would’ve never made it right ?
@@jasondixon9095I owned a 2007 NC automatic and I loved it. I also rented a 2016 ND club soft top with the automatic on two separate occasions and it was an absolute blast.
@@zzzbnmmh6164 I just got a 2021 RF jet black Mazda, Miata. I love it automatic.
I only wish they would somehow put the 4cyl turbo on this car.
I would prefer a supercharger for it's more linear throttle.
5:55 Why doesn’t this model have the LCD screen in the instrument cluster being a my2023?
You only get the color screen on GT soft tops or all RF models.
@@chrisjones8735 Yup. Apparently the 2024 soft tops get the color display now, but have not seen it in person to confirm.
Does this car have the bilstein shock absorber option ? Great video by the way.
Thanks! The Club trim does get slightly different suspension setup, which this car has. We're actually not 100% sure who makes the damper, for all we know Bilstein could be the supplier. What really matters is that the car rides fantastically, and it's great for both daily driving and sporty, fun stuff like you see in the video!
Yes, both the club and GT trim get the Bilstein dampers if you get the manual transmission. On the ND1, only the club with manual got them (or the GT with GT-S package in 2019). Same for the LSD & shock tower brace.
If you're serious about driving get a Miata. Would be a perfect beginners vehicle 🏁
Couldn't agree more, one of the best cars we have driven ever and an amazing car to learn how to drive stick!
They are excellent on the track and known as a momentum car
Why curse?
Thanks for the great video! BTW if you're interested in trying out a lightly modified ND2 I'd love to show off my Lilith (2021 GT RF w/ sway bars, wider tires and wheels, & short throw shifter in Fort Collins). 😁
Nice review, but too much un-necessary profanity.
Profanity?
Well shit
That freaking key is almost a deal breaker, first, its ugly, second, it's size of a flip phone, third, i got my iphone and wallet, do I really need a key that big, for such a small car all I need is lock unlock, I don't even need trunk or panic, two buttons, they could have made it size of 3 quarters.
Kinda a take here but I think we all just need to move to digital keys- car keys are too big now because of functionality like remote park/start and a physical key should only be used as a backup for when your app doesn't work. Not sure how this would contribute to weight/bloat in cars today, but keys are definitely bloated too.
-Chase
I liked my NC better than nd
Breaking news.... I have the 2023 RF in base trim and it has speakers in the headrest, don't waste money on the Bose... the regular stereo system kicks ass. Although I would recommend the Brembo brakes as the normal ones are a bit spongy (my previous car had Brembo brakes and I do feel the difference greatly). One more thing guys... in a sports car review, cup holders should not even be mentioned at all, come on. If you buy this type of car, why should you even be concerned about a piece of plastic that holds a can? Can you not live without it?
What country are you in that the RF is available in base trim? In the US, the base trim is only available with the soft top. RF is either Club or GT trim.
I wonder how these two could live in the years previous to, say, 1970? The phone was on the wall in the kitchen.
would not be burdened by the lack of internet comments, that's for sure.
Stop saying like
Or… just buy a new iPhone SE. Apple’s smallest iPhone fits PERFECTLY in the little cubby next to the USB jacks. Phone problem solved. You’re welcome.
Get some longer shorts
No, they're great 😊
But then they'd look like their dads!
Absolutely not short short gang 4ever
Short shorts “add lightness”. Lotus would approve!
Why are you looking?
if i got 1$ for everytime you say "like" i would be rich
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Great review. Actually in 2024 it'll be 35 years, (1989 debut) 🫨