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- Mazda Miata or Toyota GR86?
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Under the hood
Remember the corolla cross that had matte finish…same
Strut tower bracing for added rigidity in CLUB trim
2.0 n/a 4 cylinder
181 hp and 151 lbft
29 mpg combined if you care
Dual antenna
Shark fin
Springyboi
No glove box
Center console thing (shallow AF)
Between the seats
Reverse camera
Decent resolution
In the middle of the rear bumper
Wheels & tires
BBS forged 17 in wheels for the club
Brembo brakes
Bridgestone Potenza S007 tires
Same as the Nissan Z
Trunk
Release next to license plate
Also matte finish
Pretty deep and decent size, non RF is bigger
Trunk light turn on and off
Emergency release toggle
Who could fit in here
Seats
Upgraded Recaros for the club trim
Alcantara
All manual adjustments
Still has Bose in the headrests
Still heated
Useless audio things
Stitcher
Aha..?
I fit
Even with my hat on i fit at 6’1”
I cant even say that about the Kia EV6
The look
Mazda’s incredible soul red metallic
Smiley face
Black splitter
Side skirts
Wheels
“Diffuser”
Lip spoiler
RF top
Powered
Black top
Cupholders
Not in a single spot like every other car
Between the seats (problematic)
Passenger side footwell
3 spots total, only comes with 2 holders
Doors
Upper card is same color as exterior
But plastic
Fake carbon fiber
Door jam has rubber damper
Sofyan would love the thunk im sure
Screen
7 in head unit is fine, not super impressive
ACP (wireless?) wireless in top trim
Rear wheel
Mudguard thing
It’s a legal thing
Passenger side
Huge bulge on passenger side
Manual brake hold
Smart city brake support
Keeps you from rolling back
Vents
Single center vent
Manual controls
Transmission…obviously
Climate controls
Seat controls
Headlights
Wipers
Price
The RF starts at 35,750
Comes in Club and GT
Club starts at 39k
As tested this is 40k
Same as where a nissan Z is supposed to start
Yeah right
Gr86 10th anniversary about 34k - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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Things about the video. The 2nd antenna is because the back glass folds down under the roof. Most cars are FM in rear defroster and satellite in the shark fin. Miata with a folded down roof needs a 2nd antenna. Movable cupholder is moved to the passenger knee area for when the driver is alone. Then it is right at hand. When a passenger is in the car, you move it to the back to give them more room and suffer with the odd location. "City smart brake" is the windshield camera sensing a collision and first warning and then hitting the brakes for you. It also has a "Hill holder" brake. That senses when the car is on an uphill and will hold the brake a few seconds after you lift off the brake when the clutch is down. Then release the brake when the clutch bites so you don't roll back. Club and GT's with stick shifts have the same Bilstein suspension, strut tower brace and limited slip. Difference is the stuff you mention like the auto headlights, auto wipers, auto dimming outside mirrors and interior auto-dimming with homelink.
yeah and it doesn’t have those recaro seats and the bbs and brembos just because it’s a club trim… it’s the bbs/recaro/brembo package
This depends on your location. Here in Australia there is no satellite radio, so shark fins don’t exist here.
Also the GT spec in Australia does not have Bilsteins, nor does it have an engine cross brace. I have a one year old GT, and no hill holder brake either. Different regions, different specs for cars.
This guy Miatas
The Grand Touring doesn’t have auto dimming and stuff???
Another thing he didnt touch on, is that the wind break behind the seats is removable. So IF you are driving and its colder out with the top up, you can remove it to give yourself a clearer view in the rearview. It's just a shame that the only changes are so minor between the 2022 and 2023.
At 13:50 you say “ there is no sense revving it out because there’s not much power up there. That’s where All the power is. Rev it out and shift and the revs fall right back into the meat of the power band.
Yes, right around 5,200 RPM is when the power kicks in.
It makes power all the way to redline.
Keep in mind the Brembo brakes are on the front only, the rear calipers are standard Mazda brakes that are painted red. I have a 2022 ND soft top, I test drove the Club version and didn't think it was worth the extra money. I personally think the gunmetal satin wheels on the GT are better looking than the BBS wheels, and the standard seats are just fine. I worked out that the money I saved pays for about 6 years of servicing!
I agree. Black wheels look dirty even when they are clean, and everyone has them. The Club model is mostly for tracking drivers. The standard brakes are more than adequate for a light car. Money you don’t spend for a Club you can put in the bank. A stock RF looks great as is in whatever color you desire. Only thing I see as a minus is there is no option for a light interior. I prefer a tan so the seats stay cooler.
On the fence I like the lsd and color matched door sill panels and some of the exterior items of the club (but can be added later) I don’t think the club bilsteins are really for tracking just makes it a smidge sportier if you really want to track the car your going to need some better suspension. the BBS wheel and tire package Brembos and Recaros def not worth it for me.
@@jdmdriftertThe GT comes with the bilsteins and the LSD since 2020. You just can't get the LSD if you get the auto trans.
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I have an NB2 and I love it. The only thing I wish is that it could be a little quieter wind wise. But only so much you can do with it being so small and light.
ND2 RF is pretty quiet
The soft top is where the noise is coming through - not so much the “small & light” factor.
The hard top (“RF”)
is quieter but also
80+lbs heavier
It's not like it's a super fast car either way, haha, but peak HP is made at 7k rpm, so there is definitely sense revving it over 5k. The ND2 engine pulls until redline without running out of breath, and it feels really happy to do so.
0-60 🏁 5.4 secs
is plenty fast. 0-30 2.7.
@@nextleveljourney6612 5.4 seconds from a stock engine? I don't think so. More like 6.50.
@@nextleveljourney6612yeaaaaa this car doesn't go that fast.
@@oliverpearson1577it’s 0-60 is 5.4
@@juliet4093 No, it isn't.
You do not mention that the BBS wheels, Recaro seats and Brembo front brakes are part of an extra-cost package, they are not standard on the Club.
I really like this car. And while a car, approaching 40 K is a lot of money, I can’t find a single vehicle that has as much excitement as this car. I want one. Well done, Mazda!
Gt86
@@eskilnord4510 Bit of a naff engine unfortunately.
I have 2019 RF GTS, daily drive it and love it! I am 6’1 and fit just fine. Red color.
Awesome!
@@dwnshftCool
Cupholders are great: 1) the front cupholder is perfect for solo driving (doesn’t get in the way of a passenger), 2) the rears are for when there are two of you, 3) never any need for a “third cupholder” since the car only holds two people, 4) you have the option of stowing both cupholders in the rear cubby, or just removing them from the car altogether.
I drink before I drive, so I'm not bothered.
3 cupholders is perfect. Can’t tell u how many times my wife and I go out to eat and she’ll bring her Yeti in the car and then come back from eating with a soda
Soul Red =‘s “CANDY APPLE RED “ old school car color . It’s beautiful ❤
Candy Red has a tinge of orange in it.. But yes, very beautiful
Just got a 2017 ragtop, love it. Was wondering about the dull paint under the trunk and hood, glad to find out its normal, was thinking something fishy was going on with the paint job. I'm 6' and fit fine, I actually love the comfy feel of the cockpit, I feel one with the car. Amazon has a display screen visor, gonna get it.
It's a 3-step paint, and Mazda decided to save some money by only putting the base coat on the areas that you don't normally see.
Unless I missed missed it, you failed to mention that both the club and the GT (in manual transmission only) comes with a limited slip differential.
Just want to say that I am 6’6 and fit just fine in my dad’s 2016 soft top. I’ve also found that on the passenger side, at the back of the footwell towards the right side, there’s a slight setback that gives even more room so I can almost stretch my leg straight out. Crazy how much space this tiny car has
What a great review. I have a Miata RF and you nailed it!!! By the way there is a little more storage behind the passenger seat, just a small compartment.
1:34 springy boi goes boioioinggg
I'm seriously thinking about trading my practical & nice 2022 Mazda CX-30 for an MX-5/Miata after it is refreshed/improved for the 2024+ model year. Plus, I really miss owning/driving a manual.
I’m doing exactly the same thing. I have beautiful red CX-30 and I’m test driving an MX-5 tomorrow. Practicality’s overrated: )
I drive all my cars barefoot wherever possible, especially my 2024 Miata Club and it’s the best way to drive! I fortunately live in North Carolina and wear flip flops all year long so it’s very easy to slip them off and on and have unlimited access to the pedals!
I’m 6’3 and still fit perfectly in my 2016!
There is also another compartment behind the passenger seat like the one in-between the two seats. Also the seats, rims, and brakes are an added package. They don't come standard with the trim if you didn't know. I just looked at these. Its almost another 5k for the package from Mazda.
Tou forgot about the hidden passenger glove box thing behind the seat
what abt the hidden compartment behind the seat?
Behind each seat is storage as well)))
Only behind the passenger seat on the RF
I have a GR86 and I'm probably going to switch.
Can you please tell me why? I have a Miata, and I was looking at GR86, but it’s hard to switch to GR86…I don’t really need the extra space 😬
@Theguy-dy4nh GR86 is good, but the whole subaru/toyota thing is not worth the hassle. Even if it's stock, and you don't track it, they are going after your warranty if anything happens. Here in California atleast went to two different toyotas, and they both gave me an eye like I had tuned the engine or something. Mazda is way cheaper and easy to work on. if the s2000 was cheaper, I would get one of those.
I heard that Mx 5 has only directinjection, not port injection, so it will cause carbon build up. Gr 86 has both injections. So no problem
Channels called downshift but isn't confident rev matching, that made me chuckle.
Lol rev matching has always been fine but in a track setting I wasn’t confident in my heel-toe until about a year or two ago 😅😂
@@dwnshft Good to hear man :) hoping to get to a track day next year.
My pops is 6'2 and his old white man flat top was brushing the roof sitting in a new RF. He definitely looked goofy in that thing haha.
Man I'm looking to get one, but I'm little over 6'2. 😅
Does the 2017 model of that city smart brake?
Bridgestone potenza 001. Not 007. Time for some specs.
Classic car
Great video, how solid is the car, and squeaks or rattles?
Surprisingly solid…much more than an 86 or BRZ
My NC had nearly 180K, and my old ND1 had 120K, my current ND2 has 40K and no rattles or squeaks. Did have loose belly pan bolts that made noises until I tightened them up.
I am still debating between this car or the G86. I have been waiting for the 86 for 9 months already but the MX5s are at the dealerships. A little more expensive but I like it a lot. Which one would you buy and why?
MX5 will be more reliable and has a better shifter and clutch. But I’d say it depends on if you want a convertible and if the car will be your daily driver. GR86 is a better single car while MX5 is a better 2nd car
@@bitbat9it will be a weekend car.
@@user-py8qj6xc4pdefinitely MX-5. I have a 1999 MX-5 and it’s an awesome car. I’d imagine the newer ones are even better
The Miata is a different beast. The 86 is faster but I average 24 mpg and the engine issues with rtv. The gr86 is fun and goes sideways easily but if you plan to mod the Miata is cheaper. No need for rear lower control arms for alignment specs if you lower it. Exhaust options are easier to find used. The Miata has transmission issues even the nd2. I paid 28k otd for my nd2 the gr86 would’ve been 35k otd. Insurance is also half the price for the Miata for me anyway in Ohio. 50 monthly vs 102 for the gr86.
I own a BRZ currently looking to trade it in for a Miata after test driving one. Get the Miata, the engine is kinda exotic feeling vs the 86 where it’s just there. Plus the weight is noticeable, and depending on your area you might find a local group to drive Miata’s together
I have 2023 Miata RF, sometimes has a yanking motion when shifting gears. Dealership tris to tell me this is normal. Is it???
You probably shift like an old lady and need to learn how to properly shift on a beater
I dont understand why you would want to turn off traction control and cause it to slip out? The thing i love about mine is how confidently i can take corners without it slipping out, enabling me to take the corners faster than i otherwise would be able to
When you learn to control oversteer you will probably think otherwise
Behind each seat is storage as well
That is for the soft top.
RF only has it behind the passenger seat
@@KidNato Not me double checking my RF Miata to see if that's true lol...
Damn, it's true 😅
I’ve been driving barefoot since I was 15, could never drive stick with shoes. Also happen to wear flip flops most of the time too
NC1 forward pretty squeak free after 150,000 miles.
Only 26,000 on a 2020 ND2 GT RF, but still as solid as the day I bought it.
good trunk
Hahaha, love this comment! Used to live more than 2 yrs in LA ….
Again : we EU love to eat and drink on tables and chairs, not in cars, not “ to go” , focus on ONE thing ! Not making love, watching TV and playing with the fone same time. In this car it’s driving , fortunately we have still roads , not just
endless straight highways…..
The European mind cannot comprehend the boundless euphoria of cruising at 80 mph while sucking down 6 different kinds of grease and carbonated sugar 😤
My car
Love it ❤❤❤
I would take the Mazda over the other cars mentioned for sure.
and do u have a tip to grow faster in height, i am 14 male and want to at least reach 5'10-11, rn i am 5'7(i think), so pls🥺
and btw i subbed
This car is pretty but expensive for me! I'm happy they have automatic option instead of manual lol
Used Miatas are great for learning to drive stick. You will learn the basics in about ten minutes.
@@mikeb9569 I don't want to learn stick tho
The MX5 is perfect . Hope they KNOW THIER BUYING BASE . ELECTRIC will kill the driver & shifting THRILL .
3׳6 would fit?
Would be really tight I think
Cool
First ten seconds of the video has me dying 😂 it's true though
Lololol
Soul Red a nightmare to repair, no chance of low cost SMART job
How can a color make a car a nightmare to repair? Please explain
whats the engine rpm at 130 km/h in 6th gear?
About 2.5k
@@Phractal OK that's not that high actually, they could maybe squeeze out a little more efficiency with a 7th gear
We need the 4 turbo in the Miata. Even if it's an automatic it'll be hilarious.
It’s not the spirit of this car
A more linear supercharger would be welcome.
Suggestion: review barefoot style to actual Piloti shoes. I'd especially like to see how barefoot compares to Piloti in the event of a fire or against abrasive or sharp metal surfaces.
Never drive barefoot ! Many road codes actually forbid it. Decent shoes every day.
they need to shove that new turbo 6 in this thing
I've had this car for 2 years, the infotainment system SUCKS! It crashes randomly all the time. Also, don't need the handbrake in San Francisco, as a California driver, I've done it and it has rollback assist if you have a manual. Makes it trivial.
And thanks for not showing the secret compartments :)
You might not be aware, but it is illegal to drive barefoot in most states.
www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/driving-barefoot/
Stock tires are trash. Replaced with continental extreme contacts and now I can drive confidently in the rain
cup holder is something soooooo US ! Why drinking in the car ? Coffee ? You mean your brown water ......I've a "espresso" (express means fast) before getting in the car and then I drive (that what this kind of car is for !) What "challenge" : stick shifting ! In EU everybody know how to do this , and with car like this , you don't want an automatic ! Fortunately this summer I drove the one of GB friends for 2 months (in Sardinia, lot's of curves and hills) BTW flip-flops are not considered shoes in EU , in many restaurants they'll not allow to get in .........
I wish Mazda would delete the cheap looking and feeling infotainment screen. In its place, simply use an adjustable mount or in-dash cubby with usb-c connector for smart phones. Keep the interior clean.
They just updated in in the ND3
@@lemmontree12024 will be out in the spring screen does look less like a fisher price toy, however I agree it'd be nice to be able to delete the screen but it's what the majority of car buyers must have now
@@erichubbard7754It's illegal to not have a backup camera in a new car and you need to have a screen to display the backup camera somewhere
FOR FREE????
That’s what I’m sayin 😂
Comments never disappoint!
I'm going to assume Stitcher and aha is paying Mazda to put it in the infotainment.
I think they have a many-year partnership running since a few years and hence they have to keep it. Just my guess
Shoeless driving FTW! 👣
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Mazda Comparing to Nissian’s LEGACY ENGINE Failures & Fit and finish & GR86 90s plastic cabin & Gasket faults * MX5WINS
When ever I drive a car I haven't driven before I go barefoot too.
The roof button should be 1 touch instead of holding it down... Who's ever going to leave the roof open half way, unless She/s going sailing in it.
16:00 Puma drift cats are like $35 bro. Chill out.
They need to change the headlights.
I cant believe he said dont rev it out because theres no power up there 🙄
Bro you got to manually rev match lmao I didnt even know cars automatically did that sounds like cheatin to me this car is amazing especially if you drive in snow and rain this car will make you so good at driving. Only thing it has that it shouldnt is Abs its a great car to learn how to drive
"The resolution from the back up camera is pretty good."
- Someone who never put the car in reverse
It does the job, surely? Not sure why the fact the camera isn't HD matters one bit.
@@AdAstra78 It does matter and helps with avoiding small objects which is why reviewers often bring it up as a talking point. If it doesn’t matter to you, that’s fine.
3:59 thats stupid, now i cant store bodies in my car
I only drive it with bare feet... I can't feel the car with shoes on.
If you screw around in shop class, you’re gonna have a bad time!
All the power is at 7500 get up there
Driving witthout shoes is illegal
naked foot for the win!
naked foot always wins!
Is it comfortable for a 6 hour round trip with my honey?
No
It appears that you don't shop at Costco the same way I do.You must have gotten some nice earbuds. It's a great car though.
It's a crime to drive without shoes. Law doesn't apply to you?
I am above the law
Such a pity they a rust buckets
They did a long time ago. Now they don’t, at all. I have CX-30 here in Poland, drive it in the snow and salt, have had it for 3.5 years and not a trace of rust anywhere, none.
@@markg1531
Sadly in the UK I've seen several and they are rusting
Maybe the cx is good.. Not the mx5
@@the1beard I'll find out since I'm getting a new one soon. Also I get my cars washed and waxed often, and I garage them.
@@markg1531
Wash the underside after winter
My 2012 hasn't rusted yet, and it was is chicago and now in Florida.
Does anybody else feel like the interior should be a little better like having an automatic seat adjusting and when I’m looking at like the AC controls is giving 2000 vibe a little bit those are really the only problems I have with it.
Piloti does not approve.
Lololol😅
Auto headlights.....Auto Wipers... Auto rev-match...People need this? Are they too lazy/stupid to use these features by themselves?
Can't wait to put my 1989 Civic Si back on the road. Manual. No power windows. No power brakes. No power steering. Just pure effing driving pleasure!
Enjoy it because in 2025 or 26 It goes away. The manual transmission, the motor, weight, and handling. The car will be bigger and heavier. It will be a battery car. Mazda should be pushed to keep it the way it is. Once these cars are gone, the fun goes with it.
Depends on the battery they'll use for them. EV's can be light, range is going to suffer on them ofcource.
Maybe a 3 cylinders hybrid. Could still be relatively light and quicker.
Talking too much
Not taking advice from someone driving barefoot in the first 10 seconds of the video
That's just ridiculous! You can feel the pedal with no shoes on! And when you go to the beach as I live in Florida. You don't drag all the sand in on your floor.....! Stop being a lightweight😂
The power top works in accessory mode, so no need to start the engine.