Stories From the River's Edge - the fifth estate
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- In the ten years before the 2011 airing of Stories From the River's Edge, seven of the Aboriginal students who came to Thunder Bay to complete their high school education in Thunder Bay returned home in coffins. the fifth estate profiles of two Aboriginal students Starleen and Sylvia Meekis, who left their reserve in Deer Lake to attend school, looking at the issues facing these youths, both at home on the reserves and in Thunder Bay. As well as a look at the adults who are trying to help the students of Dennis Franklin Cromarty High School as best they can.
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The first people of Canada deserve so much more!!!!
It ain't easy being Native In Canada, U.S, Mexico, Central, & South America..
There should be surveillance cameras on that bridge.
The staff at the school are great. God bless you all.
I watched both documentaries on these 1st nations kids lives and education. Must I say, I find it highly unfair on how there is no funding nor a support system for these kids. How do you expect these kids to do well in a high school far away from their hometown when they have received little to no support, funding, and when they've experienced major trauma and obstacles? This needs to change! The reforms must start when these kids are at a primary level in their lives so that they won't be set for failure.
I never really knew Robbie had so much pressure on him... I feel like he should be rewarded for all the hard work he does for the students and all
FYI I'm a first year student at DFC
+Are Jeyy Dee Aych Are there dorms or where do the kids live when they are at school?
+Are Jeyy Dee Aych you are awesome!
Thank you!
I can't believe we are still NOT bringing High School to the reserve! It would be helpful to the entire community.
+Wendy Garcia are they hiding from police in river and yee aint gonna pass skills test smoking canabis erryday
+Wendy Garcia I wondered that too
abdullah swager i did lol
The only problem I see is that if they are having a hard time preparing and teaching the kids for high school I couldn’t imagine them finishing high school in those same conditions and being prepared for college
kihs and wasawa internet school we have...but the chief and councils have ZERO support skills nor any people skills. We need young leaders to step up now. We need to start with education and normalizing taking online classes...
I live in Ontario Canada. Why the hell is this the FIRST I've ever heard of this?!?!?! Where is the publicity?!?!?!?! This enraged me...why is nothing being done?!??!?!
My heart breaks for all the first nation children. I wish i could let them know how special they are and they can be anything they want to be..
With support ❤
Star is very brave to allow interviewer to ask such private questions. To cry on camera. What guts she has.
Resources must support First Nations, on their own terms whatever that means. Whatever that takes.
They do such harm separating kids from their homes & communities so that they must learn too much too soon. We can do better.
Thank you for bringing this story to us.
I don't blame the grandmother for "not" trusting the police!
There's a really easy solution to this; Allow the kids to be homeschooled. Our government could (and should) pay for them to have computers, in-house tutors and books to study at their own pace, in their own environment. There could be a community center set up with instructional videos, on-site tutors, printers, and other resources for the kids to excel, except that doesn't seem to be the goal. The way it's designed now, it's almost like they're setting the kids up to fail, which they often do. Surprise, surprise...
physical activities ( weight lifting, running, boxing etc) should be set up on the reserves and proper dietary education and access to healthy food is key for success. if they eat crap, smoke s**t and drink all day of course they will depressed...they need to be active and that is a good start...learning can be done online instead of at a school
I live among these people, they are the best people u can ever meet but sadly there is an epidemic of alcohol in their region that is ruining their health and culture.
what is it with them and alcohol that they can't drink and function like most other people? 99% of people I know are regular drinkers, meaning they drink socially or have a few beers during the weekday but it never consumes and destroys their lives like it seems to do to the natives
Yes, the schools should be where the children (and their parents) are, not where the teachers like to work (and try to solve problems that are created by moving the children away from home), Gerard Brouwer, the Netherlands.
I'm Native & 50 & Play Video games in Warpaint , & Grad grade 12 & same job 18 years .I can do it & so can you.
GREAT JOB. THANKS FOR ENCOURAGING YOUR PEOPLE. :)
Being Native descended I can tell you that depression and alcoholism has wrecked us all , either directly or indirectly
And the road is long and painful but there's healing in sight
Ahmmm is there a reason they can't have high schools where they live?
If the purpose of this video was to depress viewers, it worked. damn man.
Kind of hard to have a high school for 3-4 students per class.... Homeschooling would be great, but chem & science labs & shop classes would be hard to find. Personally, I think that if they are going to build a high school for the indigenous students, they should build some on a few reserves. Make the schools comparable with typical high schools & let the students go to school in an environment in which they are comfortable. There should also be a chance for them to come to the city, so that if they choose to move here, they'll be more comfortable. Also, when here, they stay with host families. Some are great, but others aren't. Rules are different in different homes. I think there should be a residence where the students could stay. They could be given say about some of the rules, such as what time should homework be done. Should it be done before supper or can one watch tv for a bit first? What is the consequence for breaking these rules? Certain rules would have to be followed, such as curfew, but jobs around the residence could be divided among the students & again, consequences of not doing one's chores would be decided by the students at the beginning of the term. I know: residential school, but this time, the students would be empowered. They would have a voice & a choice in what goes on there.
I can't believe they still dont have high schools on the reservations
A lot of these kids are being failed at home by parents who were failed themselves as kids. It's a vicious cycle, but the fact of the matter is there ARE parents who care, there are grandparents who care, and by not providing education's for these children, by allowing an option to be no school past the ninth grade, it's just gonna keep spiraling. Jordans grandmother seemed very clean, put together and OBVIOUSLY caring. She's working with what's being provided. Many many families are. They DESERVE to keep your kids home AND educate them at the same time. IT'S 2017! We've sent a rover to mars! But we can't send TEACHERS to these reserves? Especially Canada, who as an American in Minnesota (USA's own little canada lol) I've always viewed as progressive and working for the greater good of everyone in their country. This is kind of eye opening, actually. Thunder Bay is not far from me.
Jessica Blair ..how fair of you...of coarse many of them care...it's very typical for people to talk about all Indigenous Canadians as if they are ALL bad parents...just look at the comments...and your exactly right...countries can accomplish the unthinkable...but can't send teachers to the required reserves...the government will do more when the people support that...which sadly...will be more of a wait yet
Jessica Blair ...EXCELLENT point...can send a man to mars but this is just too complex...money is the issue
Don't ever give up. These children and all children deserve so much more. We will get there, don't give up!
There’s this one song that keeps coming up again and again. Does somebody know it? It’s beautiful.
Good gawd what the heck. I'm black and have family who grew up in the inner cities of Calif and NY and I've never seen anything like this.
I feel so sorry for those kids that the government is to cheap to bring school to the reserve they don't need to build a big brick and mortar building to teach they could get taught on a computer over the internet if it came down to it they are away from family and friends and that is why they are doing what they are doing it's such a shame they have to be so far away from home just to go to school.
8:30 "Do you feel some responsibility [for the accidental deaths of the young students]?" "Of course I do"
This is so refreshing. After watching a dozen of these Canadian documentaries with the food standards people shirking responsibility, police in what seems to be every province shirking responsibility, etc etc finally we meet an adult who is quick to shoulder responsibility. Even though it's not his fault.
It's hard to believe that we can't build highschools in every populated area in Canada. The solution is so simple.
Can CBC follow up on this story with Sylvia and Starlene?
''these seven saints and more of this tragic but moral purpose should be praised rather then scrutinized,and theirs lives are by no means failures, but examples of a higher judgment of peace, their spirits must show merit, for those strong enough to make the adjustments, in their pasts, for the struggles of obstacles life has to endure. This is and fundamental corruption (political neglect) issue...''thunder bay needs to be held in content for allowing children to be come victims under their care. and should be held liable to the victims families by means of higher education compensation for the siblings of the victims..and the families well being....free counseling.... if i had the means the words would become action...
what's so unfair, is that as a teenager in the cities across the country, finishing high school is mandatory. But, here on the reserves they only have access to education up until grade nine.
Alexa Grace lots of natives live in the city 2
Alexa Grace High School is not mandatory anywhere
Why not move the school to the reserve area? Kids need their parents while in high school.
I hope the young people who live in tbay get the chance to learn that there’s more to the world than just the drama of living in tbay. It’s sad that we must lose so many people in tbay, it’s something that has been happening for years (over 30) and unfortunately won’t stop until the whole police department is replaced completely.. which won’t happen in my kids lives 😢
They have received settlement after settlement from the Canadian govt, why has no high school been built?
3:00 she understood what she has to do. gl
Mr.principal , with due respect Sir, that you had did a phenomenal job. Your sincere perseverance and concerning are genuine. Your school reminds me one of the school where I served few years at remote area in India..I can comprehend your and your fraternity teacher's endurance towards your students to teach not only on academic field but to take a responsibility of these underprivileged as their own children which is supposed to be done by their parents. .I also knew that they are lacking in self esteem and often gets into trouble .They behaviours and attitudes often puts you in despair and discouragement. .However, I hereby asking you to keep yours and theirs spirits high no matter what. .They priority isn't to receive the bookish knowledge rather they bleak demeanor towards others .Believe me, they are doing unintentional most of the occasions. .Always try to treat them respects even though they behaviours are unacceptable..Forgiveness would be the best and efficient weapon to mould them into a good disciplinarian citizens. .The process will be very tedious and tiresome .I can also see that they were disrespecting your authority. But, then again, they low self esteem and lack of academic wisdom haunting them and ends up doing more drugs and bunking more classes. .Remember always, "ONE TEACHER CAN CHANGE THE WORLD" god bless you Sir .By the way, my condolences to all those deceased students. .OOPS ! Tgen there is another thing to say is that don't bother about the allegations about failure in schooling. You guys are doing super good like professionals .infact, you guys are doing better .Eventually, one thing I really felt difference between your school and mine , which is infrastructure. Your school are way much higher level like facilities, faculties, school's councils team and so on .whereas, my school can't effort those basic needs even if it is a private school .as a matter of fact, school is in no position to hire an eligible teachers though we have more 150 pupils in school. Anyways, please help those two sisters as possible specifically the older ones. She is disturbed and vulnerable. . Indicating excessive frustration inside her and seems like it will burst into something which we don't wanted to see.She needs help urgently. ..
It ain't easy being Native In Canada, U.S, Mexico, Central, & South America..
The kids would be Lucky if they were to get Boarding Parents like the two shown.That would help them LOTS,but still very difficult.
19:52 you gotta have the hardest heart not to have tears at that scene. These innocent kids are lost.
people need to realize that kids need support at home and at school. These kid's parents need to push and change for their kids. They need to work together! I'm a teacher and it drives me crazy how parents expect me to fix their kids! We need to work together!
Aside the fact these children do not seem to engage in their classes, i cannot get my head round the fact they are sat in class texting and plugged into their headphones..... where's the discipline ????
+armpitfuzz Discipline from the western perspective is missing? I'm not missing it. Rule #1 Be educated about a culture before you try to educate a culture. Try viewing the world from the perspective of another culture and see how the world opens up.
And this is different from schools full of white children how?
I'm First Nations, and I taught Native Studies to college classes of different First Nations students from a different areas. Some were young and just out of high school, who did the same things that the non-natives did in class. Some were the same age as me, or older; but still still, I had a rule about 'no cell phones on' during lecture, unless they were parents and had children at home. It's very hard to teach, or explain things if the students are talking amongst themselves or busy with text messaging, or whatever else. Most students who came from small reserves, near the college drove back home at night. But, of the kids that boarded with local families, they were no different than any other students who came from far away, and had to board with strangers. Most of the young ones, get in trouble at some time or another. They were loud and crazy in the cafeteria just like high school kids;, stayed out past curfew, etc. But the wealthy kids who came from other countries don't face the same racism and other internal challenges that First Nations students do. So, instructors, counsellors, and others in our program had responsibilities to First Nation students (and their parents) that went far beyond what most instructors/teachers do. So, I "raise my hands" to all the students who want to make it. (When I failed gr. 9, I quit school, worked in a cafe, and then got married at 16. I went back to school in my 30s, and haveI just finished my PhD at 64 years. I don't teach anymore, but I'm very proud of the students I taught--just for being being there. But their success, included the dedication of many people at the college to make the program a success. I wish all the teachers, parents and especially the students all the best in Thunder Bay. (btw, I am a writer and Cultural Historian)
Colonialism.
@@marciacrosby6170 This is a comment section not a essay contest.
What music track is that at 12:04 ? please and thank you.
This is so sad! These kids look so sad at this school...so far away from home. God knows what the answer is but the kids and the culture are so intertwined...seems so sad to remove them from their support systems. Hope some of them become success stories and can act as mentors to other First Nation kids.
Why is it a majority boys who lost their lives? What is really happening at this school, behind the scenes?
What happened to the 2 girls??? Danmit im going to have to wait till for the next season.
ron tattersalad LOL Facebook them
it doesn't seem there is a lot of support for the students and the school.
It just feels like a leader in these communities needs to be a little more demonstrative. In these situations, these kids need someone to relate on the level where they are. They don’t need someone soft and uncertain. Be powerful and show them strength…in speech and in demonstration of their futures. Be stronger in the delivery. These kids need to be EMPOWERED…not hand held through their life. Give them the power to change by way of delivery. Be strong. Show them…strength and through strength, they will break the mold. Word.
I have always thought that First Nations and Native American peoples should definitely get 1000% more support from our national governments than they do. Their ancestors were regulated to those places and it's our job to get them access to the healthcare, education and everything else they could possibly need unless they literally don't need it anymore. And that is so doable! Not everyone would make it (not everyone does in the rest of the world), but supporting a few generations with physical and mental healthcare, and education would make all the difference! This is a disgrace on all of us!
Is this in Canada or Australia? asking from South Africa?
Canada
Unjust! Any progress for the youth. Online learning?
why cant there be a school in their community?
they’ll likely burn it down.. animals
Punishing kids that are trying to numb the pain with alcohol and smoking? You're going to make their anxiety and depression ten times worse.
team14robot They aren't punishing them. Just trying to keep them safe and alive.
16:22 that's me lol
26:24.......the band office.
So many of them seem ignorant, with their headphones, phones etc. I get that this is a teenage thing but damn it pisses me off. These adults are just trying to keep them safe.
This was a good documentary. I guess the Indians up in Canada have it just as bad as the ones here in The States...... I mean, they really need more programs out there to help kids develop and grow to have a better chance to become successful in life,
There's a reason why a lot of them are alcoholics, there just seems to be a lack of opportunities and people have lost hope.
EXACTLY...FINALLY, 1 PERSON WHO UNDERSTANDS.
Ah Canada ,where people wear Coats inside.
they should install high powered light posts with sensors around the bridges & rivers edge. teens are like deranged vampires that are afraid of the light
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That poor Grandmother.
Reggie Bushies first two weeks out of the group housing home we had, He moved to a family members in thunder bay then he suddenly disappeared for a week, the last day i was in dfc, i spoke to reggie n told him to be safe and just to hide from the police. because we all believed it was an unmarked police car that was dooing these things. One girl from my reserve told everyone she was almost thrown over the river bridge while she was on her way home. she told everyone it was a police officer. I believe her. Ill always believe the law inforcement had a play.
he was one of the seven sadly. n this is accounts id owners son.,
This is so sad :(
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@@JonnyBravo-ky2mk ur mom
@@kordanarose3182 that’s all you got ? What are you 13 ? Lol
@@kordanarose3182 your *
Talk to them about alcohal and like french familes and itaian famils they sometimes allow it
What's it with FN students and drinking?
Sad
Native people need freedom its survival
I din't read it here but In Europe there is a saying: that we brought alcohol to the native people of nord America; they give us tabaco. ( not ment funny in any way) I think its a shame that So many jong folk have to struggel just to get a highschool diploma. That first ticket to wellfare just as usefull in the terretory's as in the big city. I remmer not be able to function at school without my parants guidance. It's to freaking lonely to get educated.
4:26 This principal has little to no expectations for his students. And it sounds like that mindset permeates the reserve. And naturally, the kids live up to those expectations. Change your attitude, change your language, and you will change the results. Before that, the girl said "I want to try to finish school." How about telling yourself "I will finish school" "I need to finish school", "I must finish school". For the most part, children will live up to your expectations, and down to them. If you keep on doing what you've been doing, you will keep on getting what you've been getting.
That's a pretty gruesome question.
"Do you have any tattoos or birthmarks on case we need to identify you?"
Marijuana......not only cheaper but safer than prescription drugs
Nnnnn! Debbie. My old boarding parent.
It’s too young to be sent away for high school.
Strange that the deceased students are mostly male. Gotta be some reason that whatever is going on in their life that it seems to affect males more so. Yes I know that alcohol and drugs play a big part when you're talking about kids who come from such isolated places. It's gotta be hard for these students.
Leslie Lang I heard three or two of those kid’s deaths have been ruled as deaths under suspicious circumstances. I wonder....
The Principal says: "We can't leave no one behind"?? Yeah, these kids will get a great education!!
damn
I'm British and ignorant.... Why aren't these kids being educated on their reserves ??
+armpitfuzz It's probably a mix of very small settlement sizes, remoteness, funding and the lack of teachers willing to live in that environment.
+shammy dammy I get it... I think we have a similar problem on our smaller isles, such as the Shetland isles.
Yeah, probably pretty close to that.
+shammy dammy the only difference being the "natives" numbers & funding to educate the babes will differ!
I know right, like I'm British and confused too like why do they even live on reserves? Why can't they just love in normal communities with everyone else? Why are they drinking to excess and drowning? I don't get it.
Its assimilation. Just like cross lake.
Wow they can easily buy alcohol where the police
it's Ontario, Canada. The drinking age is 19 and alcohol is the easiest thing to acquire.
how they are allowed with phone
Hmmmm what are the smilarities between the African American community and the Native American community?
You mean besides the systematic oppression and racism both communities have and continue to experience?
White colonizers.
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there are absolutely enough educated people able to provide a curriculum inside their communities. probably, enough disillusioned people willing to relocate if anyone would ask/support them. its a solvable problem that the government keeps ignoring because thats what modern colonial based governments do. i think thomas king wrote a book about it. 0_o
These kids are set up for failure. You can't provide your child with no disciple, be no role model, and then send them off expecting them to just fall in line with a vastly different world. I feel for these kids. I think the school is trying to do their best to help, but someone on the reservation has to step up and provide some kind of guidance long before these kids leave to complete schooling.
Jobs
lol.
That has got to be the worst school I have ever seen! Those kids are not even paying attention. Discipline seems non existent. Wearing head phones and daydreaming, half of them look like they are falling asleep. Tragic.
You haven't been in a school lately have you? Head phones, cell phones, etc. has been the worst thing for schools. Parents won't make them keep them at home and at times are the ones calling the students during class. Their behavior is really not that different from many other schools. As far as discipline is concerned, you have to look at the principals, administrators, and the school boards themselves do decide what will be enforced or not. Administrators & Principals are guilty of seeing students breaking the dress code or some other rule and they do nothing about it. Teachers are one layer in the educational bureaucracy but they are also the most powerless. Schools have to disclose how many referrals were written for the year and what offense they were written for. Schools are notorious for punishing those teachers that try to enforce the rules. Or they don't disclose the truth just to preserve the image of the school. I wish that the general public would understand what happens behind the scenes at schools. They probably would stop hassling teachers all the time and turn their attention to the real culprits in the principal's office and school boards.
Deean Burney
They looked to me like they could care less, were uninterested and didn't need to listen to an adult...they already KNEW everything.
Deean Burney it’s not the 1990s anymore or even early 2000s
Welcome to the future
The Llama Lady wtf are you talking about. This is what kids do. You are just fabricating things in your own tiny head.
“I don’t like rules; I don’t live by rules.” This means you are already set for failure no matter what. She just admitted all I need to know about her - she’ll be knocked up any day, then drugs, then dead, just like the other 7. Given a chance, but ungrateful
Yes I noticed that too. I thought that was the key moment in the whole video. Rules are society's way of telling you what works, and what doesn't work. Young people think that rules are there to make you miserable.
It's one of those things that have the property that by the time you're old enough to figure out for yourself, chances are it's too late to benefit from learning.
It's the tragedy of youth, and something that society tries to remedy with education. No one can stop you from rejecting it, and no one can protect you from the consequences of doing so. The human condition, I'm afraid.
Something's wrong with this community, and that problem starts at home. A strong back bone and a fist on the table is what they need. Those parents must hate their kids and let them run wild. Drink & drugs are all they want and that reminds me of the Aboriginals in D/Under and New Guinea. Will they ever change ? Nah, perhaps in another 1000 yrs, but time is getting shorter with each passing day.
at least they're not huffing bags of gasoline like the Natives do outside of my city!
OH YA THEY ARE!!!!!!THAT AND EVERY DRUG THEY R SUPPLIED BY THE GANGS
Which city do u live
they dont want to pay our taxes, yet they expect to have all the benefits of what paying them brings.
REMEMBER IT'S THEIR LAND YOU LIVE ON...HELLO.????
we pay taxes too, maybe educate yourself before you attack people online. not everyone is as bad as you think.
Taxes is a British colonial idea.. go back to Germany where the original Anglo saxbs came from with your taxes