Finding Emma Fillipoff - the fifth estate
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- 26-year-old Emma Fillipoff disappears from the streets of Victoria in 2012 and has never been seen since. Was it murder, suicide -- or did she want to hide? In “Finding Emma” host Mark Kelley follows a mother’s determined journey to look for her daughter - and looks at how hard it is to find many of 60,000 people who are reported missing every year in Canada.
Using exclusive surveillance footage taken only hours before she disappeared, the fifth estate speaks to police, friends and family to piece together the story of Emma Fillipoff. With the family’s blessing, the fifth estate shares excerpts of Emma’s hard drive - thousands of pages of diary entries, poems and messages - to a special team of five expert criminal investigators, including an active homicide police officer, a forensic psychologist and a criminologist who pore over the evidence.
Since May the fifth estate also launched a social media “Finding Emma” campaign of Twitter and Facebook and on national television - and in this week’s program, Kelley tracks down many of the tantalizing clues.
My 35 yo son has been missing since Nov. 18, 2019. He has had schizophrenia for 10 years. How much does law enforcement value people with mental illness where I live? Joshua has been missing 4 months now, and so far no one has been interviewed, police first went to his apartment in January, they still haven't reconstructed his last day, and there are (big surprise!) no leads. If Emma can't be found after 4 yrs with dozens of podcasts, articles, and shows like this with millions of views, I'd better face up to never seeing my son again. Joshua Matthew Stewart, my baby and the most talented potter I've ever known: I love and miss him.💔
Have you heard anything from him yet? I'm so very sorry, for your pain😢💔
My thoughts and prayers are with you, your family and your son. I pray he is ok....
That was painful to read. Maybe you can't find him by searching, but there are many good people out there. Maybe someone gets him help and he returns to you. I hope so.
I hope you see your son again. I really, really do. I'm so sorry the police are failing you. As a person with many mental disorders the police's treatment of your son is appalling and sickening. I wish you and your son well and I hope you find each other soon.
Im really sorry. I wish I could help. When my son went missing I went looking for him on the streets of Vancouver. I never found him, but he came back a year later.
Mother says that Emma would never take her own life but admits that she never really knew her daughter until she read her journal entries.
Funny Valentine the dad loves to talk a perfect life
Yeah...her dad seemed unwilling to accept reality
...and she haven't talked to her daughter for a long to.
Yeah, you know I was wondering about the dad. Did something happen in her childhood that triggered her to not want to see her mum and dad?
It seemed that mom was jealous of their relationship. Hmmmm, now mom's binge searching outta guilt. Not nice I know, but why else did their marriage not survive thru something you would need each other for?
I can’t stand it when families say “they would never do that, they had so much to live for” sometimes when people are in their darkest days, they’re not running to share it.. even with people they trust and love. Depression can strike anybody, regardless of things that would make them happy. All possibilities should always be looked at even if the family says it’s unlikely.
Yes this is completely true.
That's a very true statement agreeing with you all the way from Baton Rouge Louisiana 2022 please be safe and careful 🙏🙏🙏
You're absolutely right. my brother took his life when we all thought he was doing better than ever.
She's got paranoid schizophrenia
I think it’s a coping mechanism..they don’t want to believe it
Her mother might not “ever” believe she killed her self but her mother didn’t know her daughter was living in shelters either
Uh, you missed the part where her mother knew exactly where Emma was and Emma asked her to come and get her. Instead, her mother called the shelter and decided not to come and get her. Mom did not want to deal with Emma's issues and decided to leave Emma at shelter. Now, she's trying to blame the shelter.
So living in a shelter means...I know your focusing on the fact that she didn't know stuff about Emma but to me that has nothing to do with suicide
je pense qu'elle est toujours en vie!!
These experts are brilliant. They immediately narrowed the options down to her either being alive or dead, and that either someone else was involved or she left of her own volition. They're gonna find her in no time.
hahah.
megan l ikr😂 absolutely nothing
👍 yet no women among them who might have pointed out a women’s instincts when it comes to stalking and violence...She knew...
Lol
Sarcasm, is not welcomed. You need to be thoughtful. At the least.
I quite dislike when people say that someone would never take their own lives. Many people who have seemed happy all their lives have taken their own lives. Anything is possible.
agreed
Delia Dee I 100% agree.. my best friend of 20 years killed herself out of the blue. she had a great job working for Mercedes and was recognized as the best service advisor on the east coast. she owned 2 beautiful homes, had tons of money and most importantly, she came fm a great family with very loving parents. it was so baffeling when we found out that I was convinced she was murdered. but she wasn't. she left a vidoe.. u never ever ever know how someone truly feels. she was so happy and living her life, and she decided to end it. reasons I'll never know. and it ABSOLUTLEY kills me to not know why. RIP JENNIFER BABY JEN... LOVE YOU
cheekymonks06 cheeks sorry about your friend!
Delia I agree. And suicide isn't necessarily a planned thing. Mostly it's not and that's why survivors don't understand it. Sometimes, all it takes is one event, ever so small to the rest of us, to tip someone over that edge. Or a growing dread and hopelessness about the future. And young people who have no children, partner, will be more at risk because there are none of those safety nets in their lives to keep them going through the worst of times. Emma seems to have been particularly isolated and therefore extremely vulnerable. Undiagnosed mental illness? Quite probably, Saffire....
+Sarah Drenth ... Dear Sarah: I disagree with your implication that there MUST Be "something wrong" with a person who commits suicide. Sometimes suicide is not motivated by emotional distress of any kind. For some people, suicide is actually a logical & a rational decision. I came to this awareness decades ago when an acquaintance killed himself. I told his lifelong friend that I always thought that this guy "had it together". The friend told me that this young man's suicide had nothing to do with "having it together". He simply "got tired of living". ... Art.Curator.2016@gmail.com
Keep looking amongst the homeless. I have a daughter who prefers the homeless life. She's intelligent and suffers from schizophrenia.
I agree. Psychosis runs in my family, and given my experience with family members and the nature of Emma's behaviour before she went missing, I'd say this is likely.
genuinely prefers homelessness? Not just that she can't maintain a stable life due to the schizophrenia? is she able to get and take her medication living homeless?
Sorry Brant 😞
@@asherael Some people don't want to take medication or it doesn't give them a good feeling
So you just left her on the streets? Admit her into a facility that will care for her to take her meds,have hot meals,out of danger
"Not Finding Emma Fillipoff" fixed that title for you.
🤣🤣 doing the Lord's work
Not all heroes wear capes
@@ShesGotALiftedChevy 😝🤣👍🏾
Thank you god
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 right?!
Just because she appeared to be unstable, doesn’t mean she wasn’t being stalked. Many victims of stalking become destabilized; that is often one of the stalker’s motivations for what they do.
Yup!
Spiritual Truth Seeker exactly my thoughts. I hope she is alive.
Very true, however I feel she was already predisposed to a mental health issue for which she didn’t receive any support.
So true they don’t wanna be caught in any way for one and they try to make others believe the one they are stalking is crazy so their word is not taken seriously 😒
True. People who are lost and vulnerable are easy prey. Predators can spot them.
Thank you CBC for uploading full episodes to youtube. There aren't many official channels that do that, greatly appreciated.
tumble0weed I think it's fairly ignorant of them not to, they will probably make a decent amount of money by just adding ads but I'm sure they are blocked by certain things and maybe can't run certain ads and youtube doesnt have a way for you to choose ads or something. Anywho, I really wish they could figure it out!
Tumbleweed what a lovely name
This martin looks almost identical to the martin i just watched in previous video...he was portraying the paedophile??
Mental illness seems to be a contributing factor in this case. As a matter of fact the 5th Estate did that story about the woman from Prince George BC who disappeared and in the end was murdered by her husband. But she had a history of mental illness and had disappeared a few times when she was younger. Then she met him and life seemed to improve for a long time. I believe she was bipolar. Emma May very well be out there somewhere. A real mystery for sure.
@@graceelaine698 Emma is ill for sure. To call your mother tearing and asking for home and then just escape.. she must be sick for sure after that because a normal human being cant hurt his/her mother like that!!!
She was at the age that is most common for woman to be suffering from schizophrenia. The calls was during her more lucid moments. We went through the same thing. If you are a parent of a strong and healthy adult and you receive a call like that -respond no matter what they say.
Feeling So much ego and shame cos you already promised you'd be okay by yourself 😭 that's why she stated that "she couldn't face her mom"... Terrible age grade for sure
So long and nothing nobody knows anything. If she was alive someone would have seen her by now. Complete mystery
That mom is a little ignorant. What were the police suppose to do? There are thousands of people wandering the streets nightly in Victoria.
I have to confess, that her mom reminds me of my mother. when she passed away i couldn't cry. when my pet pigeon died i was a broken man for a while. my mom was one of the coldest people i have ever met. she never talked to me just at me. Yet to the world was a doting and loving mother to four lovely children.
That's exactly my experience with my mother too.
Aw, so sorry about that horrible experience.
@@mysteryegg340 and I'm so sorry to you too
@@novelle7212 thank you
Sadly many people should never be parents! This happens way too much and upsets me.
Polygraphs aren't used in court because they are unreliable. So to clear these people's names just because they passed a polygraph test is ludicrous
Right? If anything thats scary; they feel no remorse (about lying or violence) or theyve schemed taking something to calm their nerves. Not exactly an exoneration.
totally agree
Emily, it’s not ludicrous. They are not reliable enough to be evidentiary. That does not mean they have no investigatory usefulness. Yes, someone may slip through, but as was the case here, the very fact the man of interest was willing to be tested and welcomed it helps eliminate him as a suspect. Given that resources are finite investigators have to have some means to help determine where to focus their time and energy.
Kyril J, A technology’s age does not reflect its efficacy. Most of the technology you use today is either 19th century technology or based on it - or older. You are so used to it you simply don’t appreciate it. Electricity, light bulbs, the combustion engine, the dynamo, the telephone, anesthesia, on and on. The list is practically infinite. Even the modern computer was conceived of mechanically in the 19th century by Ada Lovelace.
Emily I don’t know why they still use the technology at all- worthless.
So the guy that admits to stalking her and the guy that used her credit card are cleared just because they passed a polygraph test? I'd be looking a little harder at both of them.
Yes, that struck me as extremely odd...
Agreed. Polygraphs are notoriously unreliable. They cannot be used in court for this reason. Law enforcement seems to continue to use them just as a tool to make their jobs easier,
yes and psychopaths mostly have no real emotions or at least very flat ones. so even if the technology would work, they could deceive it. the stalker is so suspicious :( they need to investigate better and more. he followed her so many miles, that is saying a lot! she was severely followed and stalked by him. the police need to see the obvious and stop being so oblivious just because the stalker is convincing at lying
She was an empath...she attracted narcs and socios. They would most definitely pass a lie detector test. This is nuts!
Shannon Ludden yeah lie detector tests are extremely unreliable, even the man that made them said they should not be used for determining innocence or guilt.
As a mother of a schizophrenic daughter, Emma reminds me of my daughter in the beginning of her illness. My advice to you is to contact all shelters you can find. Don't give up .
If my daughter was crying in a woman's shelter I'd say What city cuz I'm digging into savings, fundraising or borrowed from friends & on the next flight out. Period. Never underestimate the damage of someone you love being alone in trauma.
100% agree.
Dude for real. My mom would never leave me there. I’d never leave my child there. I don’t understand this. Different culture maybe I don’t know
Isn’t that what the mother did? Girl took off before mom got there. Or did I hear things wrong?
I am a male and I would do this for my daughter.
They’ve gone on weeks without talking to each other. It wasn’t a surprise.
Sorry but that's no coincidence that the same man turns up 3000 miles away fro his home after he's asked her out and admitted stalking her
I know
More involved, its not the ex.
Maybe seeing him there, Emma felt the need to disappear.
But the kid was like 105 pounds, with zero muscle tone. Too much of a Casper Milquetoast to succeed in quashing the life out of anything stronger than a mosquito. She was small, but athletically built, and had spent most of her life outdoors. She could have pummeled him into the ground in seconds. And if he killed her, he wouldn't have been able to see her beautiful face again or follow her around the world pretending not to be stalking her.
A little late on this story here, but nit the entire story regarding her disapearance. I agree, that guy passed a polygraph.... WHICH MEANS NOTHING. Sociopaths do it all the time. I do think she may have slipped into the heroin scene there though. And from having an addicted daughter I can tell you, if they don't want to be found, they won't. I hope she is at peace-where ever that may be. What a beautiful girl. So sad.
His stalking could have caused her mental break. Stalking is very stressful. It can create anxiety, stress, depression, paranoia etc. I’m typically a very happy person but after a series of stressful and depressing life events the depression and anxiety changed my outlook on life and even my personality.
Larissa ! I thought that too.
More like her controlling, overbearing mother. She’s constantly writing about how she needs to get away from home, and clearly sounds smothered. Maybe her home situation helped trigger her mental problems, on top of the fact that she already wanted to get the hell away. Why does it has to be the boy that liked her? She seemed to be able to handle him well enough.
Larissa ! How true is that! Great reflection!
Larissa. Same
So true
Nothing makes life harder then when the people who are supposed to be your Safetynet are the same people who are causing you pain.
But not her mother. She said at 36:43 she loved her mother and didn't want to cause her pain. Emma probably thought the truth would devastate her mother. Keeping deep dark secrets can cause a person deep depression. I think someone very special found out where she was.
Why is no one talking about Emma’s drastic weight change, her mental health challenges that she had for years, and the Sporadic living situation. Her mom is in denial.
Were you watching 🤔? They all talked about her mental health 🙄 like as far as the weight loss do they really have to share everything 🙄? Also, what is her mom in denial about? Why do you think she looking in homeless area's 🙄? I think you were so quick to write sumthin negative, you've gotten it all WRONG.... Do you not think her parents are going thru enough, without your negative energy 😐
They did talk about it?
@@diamondleigh7280 agree
She sounds like a true empath, absorbing everyone's darkness while they were drawn to and absorbing her light. I hope she's found some peace.
Kelly Mitchell I was thinking that when she complained about the furniture being be too Loud. Narcissists are drawn to empathic people and unfortunately one doesn’t always realize that a dangerous narcissist is messing with them by Stalking, appearing every place that they are, constantly trying to get their attention and if they don’t, they turn on the Empath and will do anything to try and get some kind of Attention. The Narcissist is great at pretending to be caring and helpful and fool other people into believing that the person not wanting anything to do with them is Crazy or unstable when in Fact it’s the Narcissists who is Crazy and Unstable into believing that a beautiful Kind Person Should fall for them because of their delusional grandiose fragile ego. Too Many times it’s the Victim that suffers because a person couldn’t accept the word “ No”. Police need to recheck and reinvestigate their original persons of interest.
Kelly Mitchell, very poetically said! Sounds like Emma had a very intelligent mind and a beautiful soul!!!
she had no light darkness absorbs darkness..people can give off a vibe of venerability..and some Psychopaths are drawn by it..and they will go mills to do their dirty deeds..to harm it..People are afraid of what they don't understand. this Dude had ever intentions of harming Emma she was alone in a strange town losing her mind..this guy knew it was the perfect opportunity hes gotten away with murder.
Who makes up that term? Sounds like the same people/group who come up with ether or gia, aka earth energy. None of this stuff is quantifiable and only exists in peoples messed up perception of the world.
Sorry if she's dead she is not at peace.And if she is gone out of this world she would in the darkest of dark worlds not good at all.
I just by accident have found fifth estate on the youtube. I'm really enjoying your videos. Great work.
California Girl whats to ENJOY? none are solved
California Girl it’s one of my favorite channels 😀
So it’s 2019....... and I’m literally u two years ago! Im really liking fifth estate!
steve keays it’s very addictive I like their shows
It's a Canadian News Television show.
I think the self isolating and choosing to live in a shelter far away from home says a lot. Also She says in her diary that she loves her mom but "doesn't want to cause her pain". With all the stress she was going thru, the depression and she was paranoid from having been stalked before. I think she had a mental break and took her own life, it's been too long. I hope she has found peace wherever she is.
I lived on the streets for many years, from the East Coast Vancouver Island...I was finally reunited with my family after being identified from being a John Doe in a Coma in Surrey BC...My heart goes out to Emma and her Family and Friends ....Keep the Faith Alive...
When I heard them say that she was a loner and withdrawn and went in and out of the store looking around, that was a red flag Delusions of being followed; she won't trust anybody; afraid to be out on the street during day time. Seen it often in a mental institution. Been a nurse for 6 1/2 yrs.
very good, good to know ....
And her friend Ellen who got her cryptic last emails didn't think to contact her mom and tell her that she was losing her mind? Her friend let her down.
well definitely she has a mental illness, but it doesn't make her delusional it makes her undecisive trouble deciding on where to go or if that's what she wants.
Chas Ptrs. But the man agreed to stalking her
@@MrFosterj and after years of putting her mothers needs feelings etc first it is not surprising. I’m still learning how to make decisions for me and act on it I feel guilty constantly whenever I do only truely content when doing things if it makes others happy.
What beautiful poetry, what a lovely gentle girl, I hope she has found happiness and peace wherever she is.
Sadly, her poetry is not very good. Yes, I do have a degree in English literature and writing. What happened to her is tragic. Hopefully, she is still alive and will get the help she needs. Maybe her mother won't wait this time and actually come and get her if she asks for help.
@@margochanning6868 I have a degree too and liked her poetry. However I do not think having a degree has anything to do with appreciating someones writing. I do not need a degree nor anyone's permission to like anyone's creation. Also you are using the word "hopefully" incorrectly here. Just from one graduate to another......
Hopefully is an adverb which means what it ought to [italics mine]-“full of hope” or “characterized by hope.” It normally modifies verbs. Nonstandard English sometimes substitutes the word hopefully for I hope (or some other subject with the verb hope). Incorrect: Hopefully, they will come in time.
They need to look more into the man who ripped the flier off the wall and said "she just wants to be left alone..."
Emma was vulnerable, maybe somebody took advantage of her and hid her somewhere🤷🏼♀️
Yeah he's the redheaded. Imo
I agree I bet he wasn’t a Canadian.
Yeah, what happened there? We just got told that and nothing else. Sounds like the only lead there was.
I wonder what kind of relationship she had with her father.....
umm, the dude ripping down posters saying she's with him and doesn't want to be found seems like a promising lead.
Sure but who is he? Some random guy?
yea, sounds like it, but heck, put his poster up all over the place and I would think he'd turn up.
You can't just put up posters of someone who hasn't committed a crime or isn't missing. Pretty sure that's illegal.
+Ruby Z Why not? It's not the same as posting someone's SSN in public, all you're doing is posting a screenshot taken from a security camera and asking the public to identify them. He could be considered a person of interest related to a missing persons case.
You can't just share someone's ssn online or anywhere else... also doxing is a real issue.. but also defamation and slander could be the outcome... we have so many laws and rules that certain things are tricky... but the "person of interest in a missing person's case" is actually a good idea... but definitely not the same as sharing someone's ssn..
I cant stop thinking that her friend who called the police the night she dissapeared was soooo close to helping her ;he didnt succeed but he tried and I am still amazed by his intuition and the currage he prooved:it takes currage to call the police if u think your friend may not be well, cause your friend might not understand you ,might feel betrayed.I wish more people would do that when they see their friends taking drugs, or driving under influence, for ex.
cuculina100 and that guy was just an acquaintance! And her mother used the excuse that the shelter didn't say, hey you should come get her since she's been here 9 months to not come get her. Poor girl.
I'm sorry, but could you please point out where I was lacking punctuation? If it was not clear, my statement was to point out that Emma's mother should not have accepted the shelter's statement about Emma's mental health by third party statements. As a mother, if my daughter called in an emotionally distraught state, I would come when asked. It took Emma asking multiple times, in a horribly manic state, before anyone came to look for her. Hopefully you understand that.
It could be your device. I see some pretty weird punctuation in your original post. With that said; I had no problem reading it.
Zee Bop, texting is no excuse. Given the ease of texting and the need for clarity, proper syntax/punctuation is all the more realistic and necessary. It is speed and convenience for the writer, leaving the burden for comprehension on the reader. It’s lazy and it’s rude, but we as a society put little weight or value on how well someone treats others.
The police should have brought her to the hospital or called her mother. I really wish they had.
What her sister said was profound. “It’s a very unfortunate thing being born that beautiful.” And her reasons as to why...wow.
It is a great advantage to be born beautiful. There are no downsides.
openview I believe there is. The same with men being born extremely handsome. People often overlook or underestimate your mind when you are a very good looking person. That is a disadvantage and one I’ve experienced first hand.
@@deepsouldiving thank you for expressing the experience so eloquently. It’s difficult to establish meaningful relationships with people when they can’t get passed the surface.
@@deepsouldiving perfectly said
‘Pretty privilege’ - beauty opens doors. It’s certainly a smoother ride than for those living with disability, excessive weight, disfigurement. Even for those, who society considers not ‘beautiful’. Read up on it… interesting. There’s been studies. Read up on the problems faced in South Korea … societal demands to be beautiful in order to get on in life and subsequently the growth of the plastic surgery industry in SK. There CAN be problems for those born with beauty…especially when that beauty starts to fade. Defined character and resilience haven’t been developed due to the initial ‘smoother ride’. Applies to physicality too. Outstanding athleticism … then losing that with age can be hard to accept.
I love the dad’s response! That’s how I want to feel. I hope it was her choice and she’s happy! 🥺
“It was pure coincidence” *looks down, avoids eye contact*
I caught that too
Really tho!!
I also noticed that, I wish the interviewer had called him out on it.
Where was that in the video and who was saying it?
He also reply "I couldn't help it" when ask if he was attracted to her. For some reason it gave me the creeps. A much more likable response would of been to tell why he was attracted to her, mention her qualities.
The guy in the green shirt has never been identified to this day. and apparently, he said to the store owners "It's one of those missing person posters, except she's not missing, she's my girlfriend and she ran away 'cause she hates her parents." Based off everything I'm seeing, I'm betting that that's what actually went down. I get a recurring vibe throughout this whole video and the little bit of research that I did that the family isn't being fully transparent about how dysfunctional they were. I'm guessing she moved away to get away from her family and just wanted to disappear and start a new life.
Why did she beg for her Mum to come move home and renegging the next morning because she couldn't face her because of the shame she feels? Mum jets to the other side of Canada the night before she goes off the grid? Her mother had pretty much said we haven't been speaking.....And if you are not wearing your shoes on a Winter street in Canada "their hands aren't in a bind. It's dangerous behaviour.
Absolutely agree.
The guy in the green shirt was seen on the Grassy Knoll in Dallas.
Bingo ! But she was mentally unstable at the same time, so that does not help.
@Fedora Eagle so very much true.
So sad that Emma seemed to slip away during her younger years, but it really shows that anyone she knew in her life would have done anything to help if she had come forward with any issues she may have had. I just wanted to let everyone/anyone know that there is always someone who can help!
Emma did reach out to her mother and beg for her to come and get her. You must have missed that part.
Mother 15.37
"They just let her go in the night"
WHERE THE HELL WERE YOU ALL HER LIFE ?
Right, and really, what did she want them to do?
Agreed agreed agreed
She knew for DAYS something was wrong, yet even she did nothing. Don't push your guilt and responsibility for YOUR daughter onto the police because you didn't do YOUR job.
I wonder as well how someone with a loving and supportive family ends up in a shelter for almost a year.
@@mobwatch8119 paranoid schizophrenic, family doesn't have legal rights of adult children. There's not much you can do but make them a ward of the state. Which means they keep her monthly disability checks. Nothing you can do to undo this decision. My adult son is paranoid schizophrenic. Brillant minds, but can't function in life.
These so called “round table experts “ are trying to rationalize the thinking of a person who wasn’t thinking rationally, am I being irrational for saying this?
No, not at all. I found thier deductions to be quite hasteful.
"Experts", they say.
How many of these guys have been abused and stalked? How many know that fear? Do they know what trauma looks like? How it manifests in a woman who is deathly afraid?
No you’re right lol
The round table "experts" are hypothesizing a theory of her "wanting to disappear" so they can have a great excuse for being lazy and / or incompetent in following down all the leads..
Experts is a ridiculous name for those people. The explanation and the possibilities they offered are hilarious.
What a nice guy to stay with her for that long! Good citizen
yes I thought that too
papabless Canadian.
Yes he did what he could. Too bad the police did not take it seriously and left her there. She would not be missing now.
@miss mensa Still too bad they didn't do more in this case because if they had she would be here still. Not missing.
Shalom Heppner I love Canadians. I’m from Detroit and when I cross the border into Windsor it’s like going from gunshots to people who actually say excuse me and please and thank you 😊
The gravity of her sadness is so tragic.
The more coverage and attention this young woman receives the more love and reception I want to give her. I believe Emma Fillipoff's disappearance is slowly becoming a legend. Emma is so beautiful, please somebody find her ! She has so much to offer the world artistically and she is a genuine person.
9:07- “My father turning to me; my mother hating us both. “ And, why isn’t HE looking for her. That entry gave me the creeps. ???
very disturbing indeed, I felt it, too.
Yup I agree!! It says alot in my opinion!!!
yes but it's stated that he turned to her during marital problems and that she " listened'... and her mother hated them both for it, " it" meaning" listened" - imo. These are the stories that take a piece of me . The ones were the person is suffering, and suffering alone. and Nobody knows because they hide it. this breaks my heart. To all people who are hurting inside, please let someone else in.
Charlotte White you are right they others completely misinterpreted that poem. Her father vented to his daughter about the separation and her mother being the toxic women she is made her fell bad about having heart and caring. Her father even said flat out people took her empathetic characteristics for granted and would use her. I’m certain there wasn’t any disturbing behavior between the father and daughter people these days are just so quick to judge and think the worst of someone.
Mrs. c she was talking about how her father vented to her about the separation and her mother held it against her and it clearly effected her relationship with her mother because her mom kept holding a grudge due to her daughters empathetic nature. I’m not sure how so many people could be so dense and not understand that blows my mind more the 40 people thought the same thing you did what happened to common sense.
I genuinely think she killed her own identity and created a complete new name for herself. And is alive somewhere. Living her new identity. She never felt connected to "emma". Just a thought.
I thought so too
+Natttioo Gaming ~ If that were true, why put $200 on a card, and then toss it?
+Paula Frazier she might have dropped it, she might have realised that she could be traced through it. We'll probably never know her reasons for anything unless they find her
+Paula Frazier someone could have paid her , like a plan to throw people off ...and then her keep the money
I agree
It's funny how in all 45 minutes of this documentary noone ever considered this girl might not want to be found because, perhaps for the first time in her life she's not actually lost
Awesome word salad.
Well said!
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Exactly!
Wow if i was 13 this would've hit hard
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I truly hope Emma is found alive and well. This is a heartbreaking story and my heart goes out to her family and friends.
Also to the families of those who are missing I hope their loved ones are found too.
The cctv of this poor lady reminds me a lot of the Elisa Lam footage.
Yeah I thought there were similarities between the two very strange behaviour
I agree, I hadn’t thought of that
Yes! So true. I agree.
Okay..THAT’s who this reminded me of. It was driving me crazy. Very similar behavior.
Her and another missing young lady in a video on That Chapter. All 3 CCTV footage is the same.😰😰😰
You left out a big chunk.. family dynamics here.
I agree. Always go to the root of a problem. Denial. The father tries too hard to be the good father and the Mom has to keep her suspicions to herself. That would devastate a young girl. Seen it many times. How could anyone ever be trusted.
tHANK u 4THAT UNSOLICITED critique DOCTOR PHIL...
Im wondering how much her dad did lean on her 😳
Emma doesn't want to be found. Leave her alone. Let her live her life the way she chooses.
We have no idea if thats the case
Wendy W it seems that you know something about her disappearance🤨
Her mother can't accept what it. As the mother of a girl with suicidal depression I know how hard it can be to see and accept. When you meet my daughter you will see a happy, beautiful, bubbly, outgoing, driven girl. Its like light radiates from her. People gravitate to her. Under the surface shes battling suicidal depression. I didnt see it myself. A teacher one day caught the slightest slip in the show my daughter puts on. Thank God she saw it for what it was and went directly to the school counselor. I credit that teacher with saving my child bc no one else had ever seen one of her slips. My daughter has built up her defenses so well even the people closest to her didn't know. The school counselor called me asap and I didn't believe it at first. I thought she had accidentally called the wrong parent. "Kylie? Beautiful, bubbly, outgoing kylie? No, that's impossible." It wasn't tho. It took a couple days of soul searching, thought, and grasping for me to see it could be my girl. The ones that struggle the most hide it the best. With that I called my daughter to my room. It took two seconds for her mask to crumble and she fell apart. Ive always been very close to kylie, she often sleeps in my bed even, and I had no idea how horribly she was struggling. Shes still fighting and likely will for her whole life but now we know what's going on and can help her fight. Shes not fighting by herself anymore. I was at the school today for a meeting. Changes for covid safety has caused her to have trouble again. Thankfully our school is amazing and was very receptive and proactive. Our counselor adores kylie and understands her well. The mother in this case is stuck in that place of not being able to see and accept. I understand that well bc I felt that too but I had to fight through that to see what I so desperately didn't want to be true. I had to so my daughter didn't become the woman in this case.
I hate not knowing what happened, imagine how her parents must feel. She was beautiful. I hope she is well.
I agree, I wonder how we can find out? That was 7 yrs ago. I thought about writing this David Kelly dude.
Mary Ellis her mother talked her into committing suicide for the insurance settlement.
@Cortney Lilly lol what
@Luna EB it's called white supremacy
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I believe in my heart that Emma is still alive. I have this positive feeling. I do hope she will be found and goes home soon. It's been 5 years.
Reiha she should definitely have not been racking up long distance charges to her mom. If she’s ever found, her mother should spank her, and make her promise not to do it again. If she’s a skeleton, it should get spanked. And hard !!
In my heart, I know Emma is dead.
It’s almost 10 years now…do you still feel the same ?
This show is like: "Emma was a very private person. Anyway, here's some poetry and photos from her computer, and some entries from her journal!"
😂😂😂😂😂 right?
Her friend, Marie Flanagan, seems so sweet, intelligent & deep thinking - sounds like she truly understood her friend! And during the time of this interview, lovingly still described her in the present tense.
I think the stalker knows way more than he's letting on to and that letter to the father is telling.
Why am I watching this? I am making myself feel even worse than I already do.
i guess i m not alone than........ me too
Join the club
Same. I know I'll regret ever watching this. But I am still watching this
This story is somehow even more distressing to me than the Elisa lam story :/
me too😭
it brings tears in my eyes😭 I feel her family pain😕 Emma I hope you are alive and healthy.
I am also already very far from my family
She doesnt want to be found. She knew she was being stalked, and she was ready to deal with it her own way. She didnt want to disappoint her mom, so I'm JUST GUESSING, she left and figured if ANYONE! And that includes her family knew where she was, then it could be a liability
That guy who was stalking her is creepy. It is NO coincidence that he went to the same place she was, especially when he said he'd stalked her previously.
Its weird too because I could have sworn they showed his face on those missing persons pics that they flashed up on the screen.
And he also seemed really stressed during the interview
if Emma called her mom to come to get her, why did she have to call the shelter to verify. just don't understand. Just go get her.
I was thinking that to why didn't she just go get her
If my child told me they couldn't face me I would be asking a thousand questions. "Why can't you face me? "for instance. This woman is oblivious. It's so weird.
A Dragon because her daughter was ashamed of something that has happened or that she had been doing. I’m starting to think the claims of her being a heroin user and just not wanting her parents to know about her may be true.
Maybe she did ask questions? It's clear Emma didn't want to talk about it. She was a very private person and always had been.
She probably figured they would talk about it when they saw each other.
many people arround Emma knew their relashions havnt been healthy.. In fact her situation at home was very tiresome for her. i trully hope Emma is alive just wanted a fresh start..
Kris Frazier Op didn’t say it was odd Emma didn’t want to face her mother. They said it was odd her mother wasn’t like “What? What’s going on? Why?” and pressing her.
Also, I was a heroin addict.
You can hide being a heroin addict, easily, especially if you don’t boot it and you sniff or smoke it. The people who deteriorate really fast are people who use IV.
I was severely addicted to opioids and later heroin for seven years and it didn’t “catch up with me” (to the point you’d look at me and think I looked like a drug addict, I mean) until the last year. Furthermore, you have to remember that no ones family wants to think “it’s heroin” or “it’s drugs”. So unless there’s a serious history of addiction where other family members are drug addicts, most peoples minds don’t go to drugs simply because of the “not my child!” (Sister, friend, whatever) aspect. Trust me. I saw this time and time again.
Not true for everyone, of course, and some people descend very quickly too (again, usually people who use needles, which, nowadays, doesn’t usually happen until people progress to needles bc heroin is powdered and potent now- not rock you need to melt in a spoon like in the 1970s lol nowadays they just add a little water and suck it into a needle) but I’m saying it doesn’t mean she literally couldn’t have her mom see her.
Also remember heroin makes you euphoric and docile. You don’t have the same standards is ability to have standards. It just always makes me laugh when someone sitting sober is like, “Ah yes she was on heroin, surely someone on heroin would be ashamed and run”.... totally forgetting that the entire thing about being on heroin is that you’re HIGH.... it’s not like you have total logic and your senses about you, nor do you have the same view of the world.
In other words, all your standards go out the window. You wouldn’t avoid family.... you try to hide the addiction.
This girl was severely paranoid. I’d say that’s the main and most important thing here.
Whether with reason or not, whether in part due to drugs or not, she was severely paranoid to an unrealistic degree.
Even the way she’s pacing in the last video of her.... that isn’t drugs, that’s paranoia. If it were drugs it would be more erratic (the kinds of drugs that make you paranoid are uppers which make you jittery and noticeably high if you’re on enough to be legit paranoid). Not to mention if the issue was mainly drugs, there would be people who’d used with her, dealers, she’d probably have gotten a record, etc.
Even out of addicts, there are good and bad people.... there would be people, especially people who’d since become sober, who’d say they’d used drugs with her. Also they’d be the most likely to have seen her last bc when you’re on drugs you need drugs every day. It’s not like you can just up and go away. When I was on drugs my biggest fear was someone inviting me away for a week or even a weekend bc then I’d have to come up with enough money to buy however much drugs I needed to get through the week and not make it totally obvious I was withdrawaling.
Furthermore, heroin adds up FAST. Even a low level daily user needs $50-$100 a day..... a DAY. That’s $350 a week JUST on heroin for a pretty light user. The physical may take a while if you’re not shooting up, as I said earlier.... but all the different areas, especially money, catch up with you FAST and are extremely obvious unless you have an endless money supply.
@@speeeee35 same. I was a heroin addict for 6 years IV and no one even noticed. My parents are married and both in contact with me. It's not something you'd have to not face someone about.
I’ve been following this case since I was 13, I’m 23 now,. I hope she has peace now but it’s unfortunate that nothing came up yet 🥺❤️
Awesome that she’s blaming staff at the women’s shelter for not telling her anything and not “being a good human being”. They were not legally allowed to say anything 🤦♀️
I'm living in Vancouver. Everyday I have to get to work, I'll look around to see if I can see her!
***** There are a number of things that weren't made clear but my goal was to get the story out. To allow people to "see" Emma, to make people realize that Emma is a real person, with a real family and real friends who love her beyond anyhting imaginable and need desperately to find her and help her.
Thanks for the positive comment Amani.
Shelley
Thank you Alexander!
Shelley
Shelley Fillipoff im really sorry for the pain and confusion this must cause you. I hope you find some answers.
Wilfred Harrison what
Shelley Fillipoff i feel so bad for you i came across this well watching Amanda Todds story
I can't help but feel so badly for Emma's mom. In most of these kinds of stories, the family knows something's wrong, but they can't be bothered to do anything about it. Emma's mom welcomed her return. She flew right out. She did everything right. My heart breaks for her.
You said it though. She couldn't be bothered to do anything about it. How can you NOT be bothered? I have 4 kids and I instantly know when something is not right. Sorry I know this is way late but I just found this story today. Do you have any updates?
Tons of people "write poetry," but she truly had a beautiful way w/ words. Any young woman that disappears is a tragedy, but the world is short one more beautiful soul.
No matter how many times i watch this damn thing, youtube still puts it "Up Next"
😂
I want so much to believe that she got away far away and is living a contented peaceful life somewhere.
schizophrenia. the disappearance itself is bizarre though.
The Real Kisht It had nothing to do with so called diagnosis.
I was thinking the same thing...she appears to be suffering from an undiagnosed mental illness. So sad.
i feel like the family is involved more than they are admitting. people from Ontario are strange cats
She was the exact age it tends to appear (especially in women). And as far as I'm aware immense emotional distress like the divorce can actually bring on things like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. It seems really likely mental illness was the reason she vanished. I imagine she's dead, either by suicide or delusions leading to her dying from exposure or self neglect after traveling off somewhere. If she's alive she's probably homeless and somewhere extremely far away and extremely mentally ill too.
Wondabyne 07 Is there any known history of schizophrenia (or other mental illness) in her family?
Seems like a very special person. I hope shes still alive. She seems so exceptional I wouldn't be suprised if she is
I remember seeing the “Missing “ pictures, here in Victoria, I think in ’13 & previous to that in 2012 in Nanaimo and still no answer today! So sad 😭
This Mom likes to blame everyone but herself for the reason her daughter left in the first place
Mike I was looking for this comment. Clearly there were issues with her and her mom. But mom wants to blame everything and everyone else.
mom is sending out a really bad vibe. i would've disappeared also
the fact they did not keep contact with her after all those years..since she was 18. And something must have seriously triggered her wanting to leave home n get away from her parents
I agree mum doesn’t sit right with me, something’s not right, it’s like she resented her daughter when the dad was talking to her about divorce
I’m 20 minutes in and mom just looks like she’s acting, telling her side and definitely not admitting any faults. I’m no expert but I think she comes across a little narcissistic
I've been watching crime documentaries for at least 5 years.... this is the 1st time I have genuinely felt like a case deserved a movie
F that cat killer. That “Don’t f*** with Cats” documentary was chilling.
Emma's story sticks with me✨ I hope she's okay out there 🙏
Everything about her mannerisms, words and behaviors reminds me of myself when I was addicted to drugs. This case really makes me wonder though.
Same here. Her walking in and out the door at the YMCA...reminded me of doing meth
I would bet on drugs or prostitution imo
schizophrenia maybe too
Her behavior is that of someone with schizophrenia or schizoaffective disorder. This happens alot. I have schizoaffective I have times where it's bad and some days where nothing affects me. When I have an episode I do tend to vanish out of the house and walk.
Yep. And that she couldn’t face her mom
This girls (Emma) journals are VERY telling!...Wonderfull writing skills, and a true poet!....but definably, reflect the thoughts and feelings of a very, long term, depressed state of mind!...she was silently crying out for help in her writings!...if she had only shared her poetry more, with family and friends, (or maybe even a publisher!)she might have gotten the support, and help that she needed (and wanted) so desperately!...my prayers go out to her, and her family....may they all find peace soon !
ça ne veux rien dire ça!!
I myself have Bi-Polar with Psychosis and I can see some of the same behaviours within her.
Kim Picot that’s what I was thinking of her, I work in forensic psychiatry, and I’m really annoyed that all these armchair psychiatrists are “dur dur she has paranoid schizophrenia”. I hope this family does get closure of any sort. from this documentary, she seems like a very sensitive person. If she is alive and not contacting her family or friends, she could be fearful of anger from them for causing them anguish.
Funny how you know you act like that but can’t contain your behavior …… 🙄🙄🙄
@@thesun-N-moon8885
Too bad you are clearly uneducated about mental disorders, so you shouldn't be commenting on things you don't understand.
Many times certain behaviors are realized or noticed *after* the fact.
Stop being an internet bully..
That's a form of mental disorder and a *behavior that you should be able to control* 🙄
Rain Clarke stop allowing individuals to do and have discipline issues as an excuse for terrible behavior! It appears every time someone does evil or disgusting works they or society want to say "Aw I couldn’t help it, my mental illness took over”! 🙄 Yet, another is set free to use that crap again. Starting at a young age. Kids will repeat what they see and learn!!!!
merncat75 I guess you are another who advocates for all the young murders too!!! All the young out of control kids who are handed a mouth full of pills because the parents just don’t want to be bothered in 99% of the cases!
There are so many possibilities in this case and I hope that Emma is found. In her journal, one line stuck out to me specifically. "I love my mom, but I don't want to hurt her." Could that be suicide? Possibly. Or could it be something else. I've heard multiple times that Emma was very sensitive to people, and at times, a little too giving. I'm the same way, I've shut down most of my social media, and I give myself peace by being alone, by withdrawing from people, and there are times where I'm so overwhelmed, I just want to disappear. So this is a jump, but maybe Emma was so afraid of disappointing people, that she found a way to disappear. Maybe that's why she's not found. Maybe she took her life in order to disappear. It's strange that if she wanted to seclude herself from everyone, that this guy in a green shirt would be her boyfriend. Could he have been after money? Possibly. Could she have had a stalker? Possibly. Could she have changed her name, her looks, etc? Possibly. At this point, the way I see it is that she either wanted out and took her way out, or realized that her mother would be hurt even if she did commit suicide, or ran off with someone else and disappeared, or ran off by herself and disappeared, or if worst comes to worst, someone forced her to disappear. Could she have been a victim of a kidnapping? Could she have been a victim to herself? Could she have been a victim to her mind? It's been 8 years and people deserve answers. The three girls who got kidnapped, broke out and called the police and got out ten years later. I can only hope that the same thing happens to Emma. So many things could have happened and I just hope that they find her safe.
I have the feeling something happened with her father. Which Emma eludes to in her writing. Emma consistently write about not being able to face her mother. Emma breaks communication with all her siblings & family. There's something more to the back story we're not being told. I do believe Emma had a psychotic break. I pray her mother gets some answers & that Emma is okay. I get the chills from her father being so aloof of her going missing.
Good eye...I thought briefly that too when they said he turned to her. That is not the norm in a father daughter relationship. I forgot about it though as I continued to listen to the video.
@@darlamills6846 Me too. Exactly my thoughts… including forgetting about what she said in the beginning of the show.
I do hope that she will turn up one day. 🙏🙏🙏
I couldn't stop thinking about the comment that her father turned to her. What the heck was that about? At the very least, children are not their parents' marriage counselor. So many loose ends. And I wasn't totally buying what the mom was selling. But I hope her search is successful.
i have to tell you something...once im my life...on a december 24th...i decided that i just can't fit in with my brothers and sisters...i did not talk to my mom for 4 years..etc..to this day i don't talk to the rest of my family...my chilbrens kept me here..
i think i can understand what was in Emma's mind at that time...
there are mix emotions...you want to go away...cut out all comunications...but deep down...you need to Know...that you are not forgotten...( she called her mom ) ...things..went too big for Emma at this point...she called to let her mother knows she is there...so..just don't forget i am still here...the things is...i think...when you want to hide...to go away...you dont want to be forget ...but when there was a missing person unit working on her...as a missing person...she can't face the shame of not being missing...she can't handle what the public will say about her...the police questioning...her family desperates search..knowing...she is not missing...she can just have walk away somewhere else...because she don't know how coming back without being judged...questioned..hated..
I am not psychologist..or shrink...
i am just someone..who can relate little bit with Emma...if she is alive...don't expect from her to come back...the one call she gave her mom...was her best effort to come back..she just can't...this is what i feel about her...
but i got the feeling she ended her life...because of her writings...she left traces of her...(she is no longer missing )..in her mind ...
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That guy who said she's my girlfriend and ripped down the poster could have her and not want them to trace her back too him.
I know:(
It's sad!
Shelley Fillipoff why are the cops not trying to find that guy then??? I live in Vancouver and ive never once seen him on the news or anything
hey emma want to talk to me privately on fb andrea janette thanks...
Sadly, that is a very real possibility.
Mother/daughter relationships can be very very difficult. Especially for a free spirit and a conventional one. Mothers want more for their children than the children want for themselves. When your child stalls or fails to achieve, many mothers struggle to like their own child. They LOVE their child unconditionally - but can’t understand why they can’t thrive in the way they were raised.
Well said...
I’ve always been very intuitive and a free spirit with empathic heart... creative from painting to poems etc etc... after listening to Emma’s words in her poems notes, In my opinion she left earth. Anxiety creates fears you either fight or flight... People that are empathic and she seems to fit the bill struggle with life because we see it through rose coloured glasses and when we see the world for what it really is we struggle internally, she just fought the depression at an early age then me which I find I’m going through now, well for the last couple years. I wish not to live on this earth no more, the other side is far more beautiful. I’m struggling within myself. Free spirits, empathy usually are more prone to mental illness... Her poems words to me are a clear sign that she portrayed happiness and everyone thinks we are happy and people are drawn to us like magnets, but inside is not the same once the rose coloured glasses come off... we are great for hiding our true feelings as we hate hurting others. This is just my opinion but she reminded me of myself just at a different age.
I pray for her family, regardless of her mother and brothers charges. They don't deserve to be going through this type of hurt.
The man who took the lie detector is very suspicions to me. When mark asked him if it was just a coincident, that he turned up in the same city as Emma, is eyes looked to the ground as he answered yes. All the other questions he looked mark straight in the eye's. Also Emma felt she was being stalked. This man admitted to Emma's farther he stalked her before. People can pass lie detector's, when lieing, it takes a lot of training the brain, but can be done. Don't rule this man out. Hope Emma's found so the family can get closure.
+Robert Barden My thoughts exactly. Maybe the cops need to get more active with this case and put this guy under surveillance for a bit. He does look like a psychopath. I wouldn't strike him off the list of suspects till I found him
+Robert Barden You're exactly right. There is a reason lie detectors are inadmissible in most courts around the world.
+Robert Barden he could be embarrassed because of his previous behaviour and she could be triggered by it. maybe he stopped doing that but it stayed in her head and make her paranoid.
He may well have lied and actually known she was there, he may have been pursuing her but committed no crime. He could have been either embarrassed or concerned that he would have a crime pinned on him which in America, is a valid concern.
he doesn't seem upset whatsoever, even snickering a little when answering tough question. this suggests to me that he knows where she is--dead or alive. it also suggests he is some kind of emotionless sociopath.
he seems primarily concerned with clearing his own name with no concern shown towards his puppy love idol... he's not a stalker anymore, he followed her by coincidence? VERY Suspicious
I feel very scared for the next girl he dates/stalks !
Am I the only one who read "Emma Flip off" and thought the thumbnail depicted exactly that?
7:20 so beautiful! This is one case that just stumps me and I really struggle with coming up with my own theories and opinions...
It sounds like she may have been suffering from mental illness.
possibly schizophrenia
mciintoshava she should not have been racking up long distance charges to her mother. That’s crazy !!
mciintoshava possibly, vulnerable, sensitive people with empathetic abilities often suffer with mental issues, I’m like that too
She is going for a walk and then going to a friend's house - with no shoes!!!! And the cops didn't think something was wrong? That should have been a red flag!!! Do you really think when you ask someone if they're suicidal and homicidal, they are going to say yes? It's common sense. That guy did the right thing by calling the cops. If they had just taken her to the hospital or to her friend's house.
May have??
She was a whack job
I can't help but notice parents never looked into camera to say we miss you and love you, if out there just came home, I'd look into family life with a microscope cause something way off!
I agree. This is very off.
agreed
It’s not always black and white. I’m certain her mother and father want her home for Christ sake her mother is actively walking around Victoria looking for her. I think they both just know their daughter better then the rest of us and know that if she doesn’t want to be found chances are she won’t be her father even said she has been an extremely private independent person from birth.
Agreed!
I pray someday they find this beautiful and creative woman. I have nothing but love and hope for Emma. Her poetry is beauty in motion just like the author. She is genuine and a benefit to society. God's watching over you Emma.
This story reminds me of that lady with a husband and kids who went missing, only to be found years later homeless and living under a bridge..
This reminds me so much of the Elisa Lam story. All signs point toward some major psychological issues, but I guess we'll never really know for sure.
I dont get it how?
La Chingona oh man, Elisa Lam freaks me out. Just that whole story. And then being a tenant at that hotel at the time?? Jesus Christ...
Also I've recently learned the hotel she was found and was staying at, The Cecil Hotel, had an INSANE reputation for violence and crime with multiple high profile cases en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Hotel_(Los_Angeles)
I follow the evidence so it's not like I'm saying it's a curse, but damn is it creepy how much that hotel has attracted
I could totally see her living in US in Seattle. She seemed to run away from her problems.
La Chingona Im happy that im not the only one who think that way..omg
La Chingona the mother is overbearing
I found that she looks depressed on some of her photos...
Alot of them. I believe Mommy took some things out on her
Grace Tohave definitely the family is just not sitting right with me! They didn’t even know her
@@chelleyd4020 How strange huh,. And she seemed so wonderful, but the only one that knew her was her best friend. I think her mom was jealous of her 😕
@@jamigen1 One time I saw the Mom blame the daughter for seducing her Father. It can become that sort of rivalry as well. Most likely even if the mom knows she will be in denial , at best. Too controversial I suppose, but very typical.
I just hope she's somewhere, Happy, living a beautiful life the way she chose too ... I know it's unlikely, but until further information, let's just hope for the best!
I’d imagine with Canada being so vast it would be a lot easier to disappear than Ireland where I am. Just a pity her mum never managed to get to her on time as it sounds as if she had had enough with life. When you are in a dark hole it’s nigh on impossible to get out of it without outside help/medical assistance. Really feel for her family here as there’s no closure without knowing what happened to her.
A staggering amount of people go missing every year in North America 🙁
My 1st time hearing of Emma & my heart aches for her. My heart breaks for her family's forlorn situation. Good Bless her, her family and those working at finding out what actually happened.
Who else despises the description "free spirit"? I hear it way too often.
@Ron B lol 😂
Leidy A free spirit to me rings desire to get away, desire to travel, no responsibilities, homelessness....
Leidy A Agree. Might as well say deadbeat.
Tiresome cliché!! Meaningless!!
One of the missing people photos that was shown 23:41 was a victim of Bruce Mcarthur. His name was Skandaraj Navaratnam. May his soul rest in peace and I hope Emma finds her way home at some point. I will hold out hope that she is safe somewhere
If I found out my child was living in a shelter ,I would consider this a dire situation . I would get there as fast as I could and have a serious talk with my child, regardless of their age .When we suspect mental illness we must intervene .
Find the man in green t-shirt who took the poster down and said " Emma is with me".
Isn't that an obvious route?
I think they have tried but couldn’t find him. I said something like your comment to a Canadian friend who said that Gastown , where the shop he entered was, is full of transients and mentally people who are out of touch with reality . The guy could have simply been ranting
@@calamityj3634 but still that man should have been found and properly excluded. I'm sure the local people would've known his whereabouts. It's such a shame.
@@calamityj3634 except that gas town is in Vancouver not Victoria
@@bucknthebush8618 Greenshirt went into a store in Gastown Vancouver as stated in my post and all available info on the case
Only if all kidnappers were that obvious
In this day and age, any young person that _shuts down_ all their social media accounts, as opposed to just letting them drop into disuse, should be a serious cause for concern for family and friends.
Gotta admire Emma's mom for never giving up.
This is a very sad story. This is why I stay in the house and don’t go anywhere alone.